1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:00,800 Speaker 1: Oh, what's going on. 2 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 2: I hope you're enjoying your early morning hours. You know, 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: Coop can attest to this. Over the years, I've delivered 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: some outrageously bad teases from time to time. Maybe not 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: the teas itself, but those end of the hour teases 6 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 2: can be It can be brutal because it's a hard out. 7 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 2: You gotta be got to time it out to the second. 8 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: Then every now and then I'll keep jabbering about whatever 9 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: I was talking about, and then I'll have approximately like 10 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: two point five seconds to get out maybe a full 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: sentence that that's not gonna work. So the teas this 12 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: last hour turned into coming up next a hall of Famer. 13 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: So you might be thinking, wow, are they gonna have 14 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: Barry Sanders on the show? Nope, nope, just a thought 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,600 Speaker 2: about a Hall of Famer, not an actual Hall of 16 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 2: Famer on the show. So I apologize for my timing 17 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 2: sucking right there, but I do find this to be 18 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: very interesting. So Sterling Sharp he just went into the 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 2: Pro Football Hall of Fame, great career with the Green 20 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: Bay Packers, and he was on his Brothers. He was 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: on Club Shasha with Shannon Sharp and so Sterling Sharp. 22 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: He was talking about the one big beef he has 23 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: with the Packers organization. Okay, so now he's talking about 24 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: having career ending next surgery. All right, that's the timeframe 25 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 2: that we're in. It stems back to that time. And 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: so listen to what he says about the Packers' organization 27 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:32,959 Speaker 2: and how he thought they weren't there for him at 28 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 2: that time when he was going to have career ending 29 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 2: next surgery. 30 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: Here you go, here's. 31 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 3: The only thing that the Packers did that bothered me. 32 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 3: Not one person called to say, how'd your surgery go? 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 3: Because they're fixing my spine right that I could well, 34 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: I could roll out of there and never walk again. 35 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: I could die on the operating table. Not one person 36 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 3: from the organization said, hey, you know, how'd your surgery go? 37 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: Not the cold one person and from the organization was like, hey, 38 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 3: look man, god, we'll pull them for you. You know, 39 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 3: let us know if you need anything. Not one person 40 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 3: in the organization. I don't think you understand that. Player, trainer, 41 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 3: front office, cod, damn no one. That's the only thing 42 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 3: that bothered me. Not one player, Not one player. And 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 3: it was so funny that I never thought about it 44 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: until the Hall of Fame happened, and when the Hall 45 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: of Fame happened. Now I start to hear from people 46 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: in the organization, and I'm saying to myself, how do 47 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 3: I feel about that? Honestly, Like, you know what, when 48 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 3: I was at my proverbial lowess, never heard of me 49 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 3: what you would perceive as my highest I really don't 50 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 3: need to hear from you. 51 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 2: Wow, interesting stuff right where I get it from his standpoint, 52 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: and listen, you had to condense that. 53 00:02:58,440 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: It's like a. 54 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 2: Four minute thing, and so there are some bits and 55 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: pieces in there where Sterling Sharp is saying, hey, man, 56 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 2: I get it. It's the end of the season. Players 57 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 2: go their separate ways. An organization starts thinking about what's next. 58 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 2: What are we going to do in the offseason, what's. 59 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: Our game plan? 60 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 2: You know, we might have babies that are being born, 61 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 2: We're going on vacation here there, Like everybody just goes 62 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: their separate ways. So he's like, I get it. I 63 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: get it to a degree. But you can tell that 64 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 2: that bothered him, and he would say at times he's like, 65 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 2: I'm not disappointed. 66 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: I'm not hurt, and it's like I think you are. 67 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: I think and you have a reason to be. 68 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything wrong with saying, like, man, 69 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 2: that was that was rough. I didn't hear from one soul, 70 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: not one person, And I just thought that was an 71 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: interesting take. I had to share that with you guys, 72 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: because I guess that's the broader version of this. 73 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 4: Is that. 74 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: It's I think it's hard for athletes to really buy 75 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: in to the team aspect when so many times the 76 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 2: business shows you that a lot of times you're just 77 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: on your own, you know what I'm saying, Like, that's 78 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: the bigger takeaway from this. How many times have you 79 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: heard players as like I didn't hear from my own 80 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: own organization that I was traded, that I was released. 81 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: I caught it on Twitter, like I saw a tweet 82 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 2: about it. I saw it on Sports Center. They didn't 83 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: even bother to tell me I was released, had no 84 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: clue like stuff like that. 85 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,239 Speaker 1: How can you if. 86 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 2: That's on your resume, that's, you know, something that you've 87 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 2: experienced along the way, and you're on your new team. 88 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: Now, how do you fully buy into team? Team? 89 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 2: Team, team, everything's team? How many times do you hear, 90 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: especially about the NFL, it's a business. You hear that 91 00:04:57,240 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 2: about pro sports all the time, NBA, MLB. It's a business. 92 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 2: There's some stuff that's cutthroat that as cold as it 93 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 2: can be, Like how do you buy in? How do 94 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 2: you not develop this mentality of like, man, I got 95 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 2: to look out for myself first and foremost, because that's 96 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 2: what the business does to you. It teaches you lessons 97 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 2: the hard way. And I feel like some organizations just 98 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: get the simplest thing things wrong. How do you not 99 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 2: reach out to Sterling Sharp? Not one person like, hey, bro, 100 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 2: this is next surgery. Let us know if you need anything, 101 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 2: just wanted to check in. How'd everything go? 102 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 3: Not? 103 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: How do you get that wrong? 104 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: And I'm sure everybody's looking at everybody like man, one 105 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: of us should have checked in, Like a lot of 106 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: you should have checked in. I don't know how an 107 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 2: organization messes up simple things. A lot of it's just 108 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 2: common decency, it's just common courtesy. You know, if your 109 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 2: friend was going in for next surgery, probably show that 110 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: person that you cared in some way, shape or form. 111 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,720 Speaker 1: Right, it's a simple thing. 112 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 5: Well see, I have some thoughts on this, Brian. Okay, 113 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 5: And I'm glad you said that right there, because I 114 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 5: had not heard this sound clip before and listening to it, 115 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 5: and while I agree with the correlation that you're making 116 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 5: about teams kind of treating it way too much like 117 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,160 Speaker 5: a business and you know, guys finding out that they 118 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 5: got traded through social media. I get that because with 119 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 5: things like that, like trades, there's only certain number of 120 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 5: people in the organization that know about it anyway, and 121 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 5: they're the ones. You know, it's a lot easier for 122 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 5: you know, four, five, six to you know, ten guys 123 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 5: to look at it like this is a business and 124 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 5: you know, we got to keep this under wrap for 125 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 5: whatever reason. But then when it comes to what Sterling 126 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 5: Sharp was saying in that SoundBite, my initial reaction was 127 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 5: one of two things. Either one, he's over exaggerating and 128 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 5: there was somebody that reached out to him or no, 129 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 5: or two he's an a hole, you know, Like how okay, 130 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 5: because I would get maybe, you know, you might want 131 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 5: somebody from like some higher up in the organization to 132 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 5: reach out to you, the team president, GM, whatever, and 133 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 5: they might not and that might be cold, and I 134 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 5: can understand that happening. But he said not a single person, 135 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 5: not a trainer, not a teammate, nothing, So he cultivated 136 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 5: any relationships while on the team to where somebody would 137 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 5: like reach out and know that he was going into 138 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 5: surgery that day. I think that says more about him 139 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 5: as a person or or he's over exaggerating and he's 140 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 5: just not thinking of you know, the equipment manager who 141 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 5: actually did shoot him a text, you know, like all right, yeah, 142 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 5: I don't know. 143 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 2: No, I hear what you're saying. That would be funny 144 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 2: if you get all these X packers that were like. 145 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: What the hell's he talking about? 146 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: I called him four times before surgery after surgery. 147 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 1: But the other part of I'm trying to. 148 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 2: Think of some of the like all time a holes 149 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 2: of the NFL, Right, like to think of some players 150 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: that had a REP that were disliked by a lot 151 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 2: of their teammates, Like whatever your short list is, Aaron 152 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: Rodgers comes to mind. 153 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: Right. 154 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: Not every teammate is fond of Aaron Rodgers. He's been 155 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: a diva at times, you know, all that sort of stuff. 156 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 2: But not everybody is anti Rodgers. There are some dudes 157 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 2: that will ride and die with Aaron Rodgers, you know 158 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: what I mean. And I think that's the case for 159 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 2: a lot of people in the NFL. Where certainly they 160 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 2: ruffle feathers, they have their enemies, maybe even on their 161 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: own team, they have their detractors and all that's earned, 162 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 2: but typically not the entire organization is against you, like 163 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: a unified decision. Like, man, this freaking guy defines a 164 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: hole like. 165 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: He's walking about. I just can't buy them. Sterling Sharp 166 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 1: was that guy. 167 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 2: There isn't one person that's on board to even a 168 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 2: to the point where they're like reaching out. 169 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: He's having neck surgery, his career is over. 170 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 2: I just can't imagine he was that hard to get 171 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: along with and everyone was just nope, out on this guy, no, 172 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: thank you. I just don't think it rises to that level. Man, 173 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: that would be an extreme case of ahle ness. If 174 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 2: there is such, you know, a term, we'll just invent 175 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 2: one right there. But I get it, I get where 176 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: why your head went there. I just don't think that's 177 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:36,439 Speaker 2: the case. 178 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 5: Well, then then you just got to say that, you know, 179 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 5: there's a couple hundred people on the packers organization that 180 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 5: then they're all a holes, like not one reached out. 181 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: I think it's one. 182 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 5: I mean, I guess you know what we're talking, you know, 183 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 5: nineteen ninety something so I guess there wasn't really it was, right, Well, 184 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 5: that's true text messaging, Like, yeah, you take that. 185 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 2: Into account, right, Yeah, the time period we're talking about 186 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 2: is like, yeah, this is pre cell phones. We're not texting, 187 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 2: we're not on Facebook, we're not dming. 188 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 3: You know what I mean. 189 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: It's just so so much easier to get in touch 190 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 2: with people. 191 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: I mean you can relate to this, right, Like a 192 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: lot of people. 193 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 2: You know, I'm a little older than you, Coop, but 194 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: you're old enough where when the grade school year was over, 195 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 2: you just went your separate ways, ye, and you didn't 196 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: communicate with anyone until you were back at school with 197 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 2: them again. 198 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: You didn't see them. 199 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: They just weren't involved in your lives at all, because 200 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:40,559 Speaker 2: that's just. 201 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: The time it was. 202 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 5: You might not have even recognized them. 203 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, right, like if you were unless you were friends 204 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: and you were gonna hang out or see them that way, 205 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 2: you just didn't see or communicate with anyone until you 206 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 2: were physically together again back at school or whatever. 207 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, that part of it, that does make 208 00:10:59,480 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: some sense. 209 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: He did have a house line, you know, you could 210 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 2: you could reach out to people even at that time. 211 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: But yeah, we are talking his career ended in nineteen 212 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: ninety four, that that's a much different day and age 213 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: than now with cell phones and social media and all 214 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 2: that good stuff. 215 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 6: Yeah. 216 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 5: So, I mean, you know what, I didn't initially take 217 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 5: that into account with my with my take the you know, 218 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 5: having to actually call somebody on the phone and either 219 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 5: talk to them or you know, leave leave a voicemail. 220 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 2: Yeah right, the old answering machines and all that. Sure, Yeah, 221 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: but you could have you could have done that. I 222 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 2: think what happened was, you know, the season ended, you 223 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: went your separate ways, and probably hearing this from Sterling Sharp, 224 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: I would bet Coop. I bet there are a lot 225 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 2: of people players, trainers, front office members, a part of 226 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: that packers organization that heard that and felt like, wow, 227 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: he's totally right. 228 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 1: How did I not reach out? 229 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 2: It's a simple phone call, like hey man, thinking about 230 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: you thing good post surgery. They're probably like, I should 231 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 2: have done that at least what was I doing? Like, 232 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: sometimes you don't mean anything by it and you just 233 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 2: don't do something you should do. I think that very 234 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: easily could have been the case. 235 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 5: No, I think you're right, because I'm thinking about me 236 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 5: and my like if you know, putting those shoes on. 237 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 5: I I'm the type of person that will reach out. 238 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,560 Speaker 5: But it's so easy to shoot a text message and 239 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 5: be like, hey, man, how's it going. 240 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you're doing okay. 241 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 5: But if I had to like actually call and talk 242 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:32,559 Speaker 5: to them on the phone. 243 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 2: Right, I know, right, yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, no, no doubt. 244 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 2: But man, when you didn't even know what text messaging was, 245 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 2: you know, that's different too. I can see now that 246 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: you're protext and talking, but when your only option was talking. 247 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: Wasn't as bad, Like it was a pretty good option 248 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: at the time. 249 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I hate man, interesting stuff there, 250 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 2: but we'll see. I would love to know if any 251 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 2: former packers from that time, if they make any statements, 252 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: you know, just keep your your ears open, eyes open. 253 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,559 Speaker 2: If anybody goes on a podcast or something and says, yeah, 254 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: he was right, man, I should have reached out to him, 255 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 2: like my bad on that. There was a drop of 256 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: the ball by me. But I can understand why Sterling 257 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,559 Speaker 2: Sharp would would feel like that. You know what's funny too, 258 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:24,680 Speaker 2: last little layer, I'll mention, as guys, there's something in 259 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 2: you that doesn't want to. 260 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: Be completely vulnerable. 261 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 2: You could hear like I had to whittle it down 262 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 2: from four minutes, but it's it's littered with not one 263 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 2: person reached out. And then he'd be like, I'm not mad. 264 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not even disappointed really, and it's like, no, 265 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 2: you are. You just don't want to admit that because 266 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 2: there's something in our DNA where you just can't. You 267 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: can't show vulnerability, you can't show weakness. But it hurt him, 268 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: and it's understandably so that it hurt him. It's just 269 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: hard to say that. It's it's hard for guys just 270 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 2: be like, man, that really hurt bad, because he's just 271 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 2: kind of like manly. 272 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: It doesn't even really bother me. 273 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: Really, I an't thought about it until the Pro Football 274 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. Now, really, it hadn't thought about that 275 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: for like what thirty years. 276 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: Had crossed your mind one time? 277 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: Okay, you know, but hey man, that's a you got 278 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: to you gotta read through the guy lines from time 279 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 2: to time. 280 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: You know, when a guy's like, oh no, I'm. 281 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 2: Not even really bothered by that, chances are he's incredibly 282 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 2: bothered by that. It is hard to admit all we 283 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: get to the militia right around the corner eight seven, 284 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:41,840 Speaker 2: seven ninety nine on Fox is your phone number? Coming 285 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 2: up next? Happy tears for our guy Coop. We'll explain 286 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: that coming up next. It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm 287 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 2: Brian no In from Big Ben Maller. Hang with us 288 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 2: right here on FSR. 289 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 7: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller 290 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 7: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on 291 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 7: Fox Sports and the iHeartRadio app. 292 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. 293 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 8: Join me every weekday morning on my podcast, Straight Fire 294 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 8: with Jason McIntyre. This isn't your typical sports pod pushing 295 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 8: the same tired narratives down your throat every day. Straight 296 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 8: Fire gives you honest opinions on all the biggest sports headlines, 297 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 8: accurate stats to help you win big at the sportsbook, 298 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 8: and all the best guests. Do yourself a favor and 299 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 8: listen to Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre on the iHeartRadio app, 300 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 8: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. 301 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian though In for 302 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: Big Ben Malor. Yeah, So I'll get to the militia 303 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 2: here in just a couple of minutes. Real fast though, 304 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: quick take. I mentioned happy tears for Justin Cooper, our guys. 305 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 7: So the. 306 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: QB Tiars list will come out next week. So Mike Sando, 307 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: he was at ESPN. He's at the Athletic right now. 308 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 2: But he's done this QB Tiers list for this like 309 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 2: the twelfth or thirteenth year he's done it. And so 310 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: he asks a bunch of people in the NFL that 311 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 2: cover the NFL all that sort of stuff for their 312 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 2: opinions on the top quarterbacks. He puts this extensive list together, 313 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: has a bunch of quotes in it, and anyway, there's 314 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: a little, I guess like a little preview of the 315 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 2: tiers list that's coming out next week. And he wrote 316 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: in one of the Athletics newsletter, it's their football newsletter, 317 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: that the way that the twenty twenty fourth draft class 318 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: stacks up after their rookie season. So think of the 319 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 2: six quarterbacks who were drafted. 320 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: In the first round. 321 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: And so the only thing that he really revealed is 322 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: that Caleb Williams, the Bears quarterback, is fourth among the 323 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 2: six quarterbacks. 324 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: He's ranked fourth. 325 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: And so if you think about this, it has to 326 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: be where Jade and Daniel was obviously number one last season, 327 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 2: tremendous job with the Commanders number two. At this point, 328 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: it's got to be bow Knicks, damn straight right. Bo 329 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 2: Knicks had a really good rookie season, and I guess 330 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 2: if Caleb Williams is four, it means Drake May with 331 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 2: the Patriots got to be three because JJ McCarthy didn't play. 332 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 2: He's got to be ranked sixth right now among the 333 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 2: six quarterbacks that were drafted in the first round last year, 334 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: and Michael Pennix Junior's got to be fifth because he 335 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 2: only started three games. Caleb Williams started the entire season. 336 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,719 Speaker 2: That's got to be the order. I don't see how 337 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 2: the order could be any different than that. But how 338 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: about that bow Knicks ranked second, just behind Jayden Daniels. 339 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 2: He's ahead of Drake May, ahead of Caleb Williams. Think 340 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: about that. If that's the list as it stands right now, 341 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 2: you got Bo Knicks taking twelfth overall, and he's ranked 342 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 2: ahead of the number one overall player taken quarterback Kayleb Williams, 343 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: and the number three overall player taken in May. That's 344 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: pretty good, not too bad for bon Nicks, right there. 345 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 5: Coop I think there was a week, uh, pretty deep 346 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 5: into the season. I think for one week Bonnicks had 347 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 5: the better odds on Rookie of the Year. 348 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 2: Well yeah, right then Jaden Daniels no kidding, Yeah, yeah, 349 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:20,280 Speaker 2: it was. He had it going for a little bit 350 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 2: there and again put up good numbers. It's just Jaden 351 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 2: Daniels was electric, that dude. 352 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: You know some of the. 353 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 2: Wins that like the Hail Mary against the Bears, you know, 354 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 2: some of these plays, it's just like, okay, all right, 355 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 2: we get it. He's rushing for almost nine hundred yards 356 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 2: like he was. He was incredible, and he took over 357 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: for a team that won four games the year before, 358 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 2: like your Broncos the year before, they were eight and nine, Coop, 359 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: they won twice as many games as Washington the year before. 360 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,640 Speaker 2: You know, those rookies got there. So Jaden Daniels took 361 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 2: over an even tougher situation and got him to the 362 00:18:57,359 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 2: NFC title game. 363 00:18:58,320 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 1: That was amazing. 364 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 2: That was an amazing one of the best. I think 365 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: the best rookie season of all time from a quarterback 366 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 2: in what Jayden Daniels did last season. But yeah, Drake 367 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: may third, then Caleb Williams I think that's the spin 368 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 2: it forward. I think that's the interesting scenario here is 369 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: who do you think is gonna have a better season? 370 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 2: You think it's gonna be Drake May with the Patriots 371 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 2: or number one overall pick Caleb Williams. 372 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: Is he gonna turn the corner? 373 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 4: Like? 374 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 2: I get the skepticism, but Caleb Williams was drafted number 375 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 2: one for a reason. He's a very talented quarterback, got 376 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 2: a lot of weapons to work with now with an 377 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 2: offensive minded head coach, there are reasons to be optimistic 378 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 2: about the guy. It just feels like it's a hard 379 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 2: sell right now. Don't you get that impression where it's 380 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 2: like to really get some like no, really, there are 381 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 2: reasons to buy I know, forget the net video throwing 382 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:56,880 Speaker 2: the ball into the. 383 00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: Net and missing. I know that's freaking you out right now. 384 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 2: Seems like a hard sell to get someone to truly 385 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: buy into Caleb Williams having a really good season and 386 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 2: maybe moving up this list of the quarterback tiers at 387 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 2: least in his draft class. You know where he ranks 388 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,440 Speaker 2: among those guys. Just funny, did you think we would 389 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: be here? I mean that's a good question. After year one, 390 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 2: do you think we would be here with you're having 391 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:28,199 Speaker 2: to really sell someone on Caleb Williams maybe moving up 392 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 2: a tick or two from the fourth best quarterback in 393 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 2: his draft class. 394 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: Here we are, here, we are. I do think it's 395 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: a tough sell. I buy in. 396 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 2: I think he's gonna have a good year. I still 397 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 2: think that he can have a very good career. But 398 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 2: I do think it's a tough sell right now. A 399 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 2: lot of people think otherwise. A lot of people are not, 400 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 2: as you know, they're not banging the table thinking, Oh, 401 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: this dude's going to be awesome. All right, let me 402 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,159 Speaker 2: get out to the phones. The militia is lined up 403 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 2: over here. My guy Emmett is in Olympia, wants to 404 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 2: check in. 405 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: What's going on? Emmett, You're on Fox Sports Radio. 406 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 4: Brian, know what's going on? How are you doing? 407 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: Good? Blud? How are things pretty good? 408 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 4: Man? 409 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 6: Pretty good? 410 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 9: Now? 411 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 7: Yeah? 412 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 4: About the Kleb Williams Drake may thing. In terms of 413 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 4: who's going to have a better season, I'm not saying 414 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 4: that the Bears are going to do anything crazy and 415 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,240 Speaker 4: like win the division or anything. But I do see 416 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 4: a lot of improvement coming out of Kayleb Williams this year. 417 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 4: Not only did they bring in a guy like Ben 418 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 4: Johnson who is an offensive mastermind, and a lot of 419 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 4: people make the argument of, oh, maybe a coordinator can't 420 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 4: be a good head coach when we've seen that plenty 421 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 4: of times. But ultimately, what this is going to do 422 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 4: for the Chicago Bears is it's going to bring them 423 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 4: more development for Caleb Williams, which out of all these 424 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 4: guys they could have gone for in the offseason, I 425 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 4: think Ben Johnson was one that you had to hire, 426 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 4: So I think that's a good thing. And on top 427 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 4: of that, you have to think the offensive line they 428 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 4: Brodn got like Jonah Jackson during the offseason. They're really 429 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 4: trying to fix what was a big issue, a big 430 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 4: glaring hole in the Bears offense last year where Kayleb 431 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 4: Williams got absolutely mollywot Brian no. So I expect a 432 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 4: big uptick from him. I'm not really buying the Patriots 433 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 4: too much in terms of Drape may success. He might 434 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 4: do a little bit success, But I think Caleb Williams 435 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 4: this is easier to take off a lot more weapons, 436 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 4: better O line, and a better I don't know about 437 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 4: better coaching situation, But I think for his needs, I 438 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 4: think he'd be served better than having Mike Brabil there. 439 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I hear you interesting for sure. No, I 440 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 2: appreciate you checking in. Good to hear from you, Emmitt 441 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: good stuff. 442 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 443 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 2: That's the thing, man is, Look I get it in 444 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: terms of let's say a young quarterback having a defensive 445 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: minded head coach, and you're like, yeah, I don't know 446 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 2: if it's Look at Caleb Williams with the Bears, right, 447 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 2: he had Matt Eberflus and didn't have a great offensive court. 448 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: He had a bad offensive coordinator until you know, he 449 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 2: got fired midway through the season. So not like offensive 450 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: gurus just surrounding Caleb Williams, and that can make it 451 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 2: more difficult. But I mean, listen, I just talked about 452 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels and how specially he was he had a. 453 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: Defensive minded head coach and Dan Quay you know. 454 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 2: So all I'm saying is it could make it a 455 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 2: bit tougher for a young quarterback to succeed with the 456 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 2: defensive minded head coach. But it's not impossible. It's definitely 457 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 2: not impossible. And we'll see. We'll see with Vrabel how 458 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: he does with a young quarterback in Drake May, that's 459 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,360 Speaker 2: something to keep an eye on. I think if you're 460 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 2: looking at Caleb Williams versus Drake May, who's gonna have 461 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 2: a better season, Like Caleb Williams has such better weapons. 462 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 2: He's surrounded by a lot of talent, unless he's just 463 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 2: screwing things up and not getting it and not turning 464 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 2: a corner. I just think that the supporting cast is 465 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 2: way better than it is in New England. When you've 466 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 2: got listen what he has to throw to Caleb Williams. 467 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: He's got an upgraded offensive line that helps. First and foremost, 468 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 2: he's got Roma Dunza, who's a number nine overall pick. 469 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 2: He's got Colston Loveland, rookie tight end from Michigan, top 470 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 2: ten overall pick. Dj Moore is a good wide receiver. 471 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 2: They got Luther Burden in the second round, the Missouri 472 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 2: wide receiver who put up crazy numbers a couple of 473 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 2: years ago. And as a talented guy like that's a 474 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 2: lot to work with. That's a cole Kabet is a 475 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 2: starting level tight end. They've got him too, and they 476 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 2: you know, coincidentally enough, they got one of Jaden Daniels' 477 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 2: backup receivers and Zakias Olamide. 478 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,399 Speaker 1: And I know you're like, oh wow. 479 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: That's gonna do wonders Like he's a legit, like serviceable 480 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 2: wide receiver who's dependable. 481 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: You're gonna catch some basses. 482 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: That's a much better supporting cast than what Drake May has. 483 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: Drake May look at their weapons, like objectively, what. 484 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,119 Speaker 1: Does he have? He's got? 485 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 2: He's got Stefan Diggs, who's been banged up a couple 486 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 2: of times. In terms of what happens to throw to. 487 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 2: I like Hunter Henry as a tight end. But who 488 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 2: are your wide receivers. You've got Kayshawn Boody to Mario Douglas, 489 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,080 Speaker 2: Kendrick Bourne. They drafted Kyle Williams out of Washington State. 490 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,199 Speaker 2: That is a lean wide receiving corps. Now, I do 491 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 2: like Trevon Henderson, rookie running back out of Ohio State. 492 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 2: So I don't want to make it sound like Drake 493 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: May has nothing. But if you're looking at Bears versus 494 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 2: Patriots and the supporting cast for the quarterback, it's advantaged. 495 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 1: Bears all day long. 496 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 2: And so it's like, man, Caleb Williams should outperform Drake 497 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 2: May this year. Doesn't mean he will, but he should. 498 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 2: Let's get back to the militia. We've got Alejandro over 499 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,480 Speaker 2: in Filmore. He's got some thoughts for us. 500 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: What's going on? Man, you're on Fox Sports Radio. 501 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 10: Hey Dumbo, come on, Dumbo. 502 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 2: I thought you were calling me Dumbo for a second. 503 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 2: I was like, oh shoot, I you know, no, I 504 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 2: got okay, Dumble, your big Disney like Dumbo, fan of 505 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 2: the Disney. 506 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 10: Listen to you for like three hours, Dumbo Dumbombo's all right? 507 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 1: Wow? 508 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: Not a not a raving review from a coop over there, Alejandro, 509 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:17,919 Speaker 2: What do you think about that? 510 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: Those pink elephants? 511 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 10: What would you say me? How wouldn't you say? 512 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 5: She said the pink elephant. She likes the pink elephants. 513 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 10: Oh and and it's come on, I don't understand. You 514 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 10: need to understand the way things work. Uh huh okay. 515 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 10: And it is fantastic. Thanks for having any show, Brian. 516 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 9: I literally I've driven seventeen hours. 517 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: Oh man, you're driving now? 518 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 10: Stop? 519 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: Where are you driving from? In two? Where are you 520 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: going Alejandro? 521 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,200 Speaker 10: From Portland down to Fillmore. 522 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,400 Speaker 2: Wow, you're like Larina with these long trips over there. 523 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: My goodness. 524 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 10: Hey you're gonna do. 525 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 4: Are you? 526 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: Okay? 527 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: You're either like very low on sleep or you're bending 528 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 2: a couple of elbows behind the wheel over there, Alejandro, 529 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: what's going on with you, buddy? 530 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 10: Hey, no, no, I have my dog. I have my dog. 531 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 9: Okay, that's a black fan. 532 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 10: She's whipping. She's like, hey, wa the help. 533 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: Okay, that's good. I'm glad she's providing the wake up 534 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 1: call over there. Very nice. That's needed, good man. 535 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,879 Speaker 9: Yes, yes, I have a black demon jepper and cheese 536 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 9: straight up, you know. And people might say where things 537 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 9: be like yeah, I was said being with a black girl. 538 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 10: You know, that's just the way it works. 539 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: Come on, all right, hey, so fine man. Yeah, let's 540 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 2: let Alejandro get back to driving, all right, Yeah, no problem, 541 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 2: good stuff, Alejandro. 542 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: He'pe you get there safely, man, It's yeah, all right. Dumbo. 543 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 2: Let's add Dumbo to the Disney list right there. You guys, 544 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: you Lorena, you have more love than Coop for Dumbo. 545 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,439 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I definitely love Dumbo. 546 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: Okay. 547 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 5: The big ears always hurt my heart. 548 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,959 Speaker 1: And his mom gets locked up and she like swings 549 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:28,919 Speaker 1: him in her trunk. 550 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 2: What's the longest drive you've been on Lorena. 551 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 6: My family used to go to Montana. 552 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 5: I think that's probably the. 553 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: Longest from like what from socol Oregon? 554 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: From Oregon? Okay, that's pretty good, Coop. You got any 555 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 2: crazy long distance drives over there? 556 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 5: Are you talking? And now? So I have to kind of, 557 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 5: you know, specify here are you talking me driving? Or 558 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 5: just a long drive? And you're talking about one like 559 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 5: start to finish? 560 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 2: I love this, but see you are the thinking man 561 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: of answering questions. This is important because these distinctions matter. 562 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: Let's start off with long drive for you, and then 563 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 2: I want the follow up answer of a long drive 564 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 2: you participated in. 565 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: But we're not solely responsible for. 566 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 5: Okay, so I for me, I think the longest drive 567 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 5: is here to I don't know if here to San 568 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 5: Francisco is longer or from San Francisco to Portland. 569 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: M Yeah, I don't know either. It gotta be somewhat similar. 570 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 5: I think Frisco to Portland is longer. 571 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: I would You're probably right, Yeah, it might be. 572 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 5: Actually even Frisco to Oregon is eight hours like to 573 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 5: Roseberg where I live, and Portland is three hours farther 574 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 5: north than that. 575 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta still get through a healthy portion of 576 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: California before you get to again. 577 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 11: Yeah. 578 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 5: Okay, so that's from San Francisco to Portland. That's the 579 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 5: longest one that I've done. 580 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,959 Speaker 2: Okay, and that was that was for a rage against 581 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: the machine show. What was going on there? 582 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 5: What was I? I think I was just vis that's 583 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 5: when I that's when I stayed at your place in Portland. 584 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: Oh really? 585 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, when I wasn't there. Yes, yes, I stayed at 586 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 2: my place. I wasn't even around. I don't know why. 587 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: I have no idea why. 588 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 5: I love that you guys have all these memories together. 589 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah that's hilarious, man, Yeah, very good, very nice. Yeah, 590 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: there's been a lot of Oh my gosh, the long 591 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: long distance drive don't bother me at all. 592 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: It doesn't bother me whatsoever. 593 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 2: Man, I'm telling you, Lorena, we talked about is you 594 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 2: gotta have sunflower seeds. That's what I should have told 595 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 2: told Alejandro. Hopefully still it works like a charm. 596 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: I don't know what. 597 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 2: At any time I feel even a little bit drowsy, 598 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 2: I just start chewing sunflower seats. 599 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: And there's something about. 600 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 2: You know, cracking them open, you know, getting like working 601 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 2: it out getting the seed in your mouth and then 602 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 2: spitting out the shell. There's something about it that just 603 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 2: kind of stimulates your brain, wakes you up. 604 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is. It's a magical formula. 605 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 2: It's the perfect thing to keep you don't even worry 606 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: about like the five hour energy stuff. Just choose some 607 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 2: sunflower seeds. Man, it works every single time. I swear 608 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 2: by it. All right, let me get out to Blind 609 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: Scott real fast. We got our guy, Blind Scott. What's 610 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: going on, Bud? You're on Fox Sports Radio with Sophie. 611 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 6: I'm just having a cold bird right now, taking a 612 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 6: couple of Bond hits. I was thinking about Drake May. 613 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 6: You know Drake May. He's like a pure athlete, this guy, 614 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 6: Drake May. I like Caleb Williams better by personally. I 615 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 6: also think he's a better athlete. But I think they're 616 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 6: both really really good quarterbacks. They're both great for the NFL. 617 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 6: Like the Patriots are in a rebuilding year this year, 618 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 6: so you're not going to see like them. If anything 619 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 6: does happen, if they made the plass for anything, will 620 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 6: be amazing. But did you see Mike Frable today? He 621 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 6: jumped in. He was like his faces blead and how 622 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 6: did that happen? Like a helmet hit the side of 623 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 6: his chain, he can cut it or whatever. Probably wasn't 624 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 6: wasn't really what it what it seemed like, you know, Yeah, 625 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 6: I don't know. 626 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 2: I just know there was a there's a you know, 627 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: a little fisticuffs going on right there, and uh, Traveon 628 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 2: Henderson he was he's picking up a blitz like he 629 00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: had pass protection and somehow you know how it is 630 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 2: and joint practices. There's a little bit of a dog pile, 631 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: a little skirmish and freaking Rabel just jumps in the 632 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 2: middle of the thing and a little bit bloody coming 633 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 2: out of it. But man, all those Patriot players are like, yeah, 634 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 2: that's what we like to see from our head coach. 635 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, it was a fun training camp story. I thought, 636 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: good stuff. 637 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 6: They got some good sound bites on the team too. 638 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 6: They got a guy that likes to dress up like 639 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 6: an animal like and not wear shoes. You know his name, 640 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 6: I can't his name right now. 641 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: Patriots play. 642 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, he got drafted. He wears no shoes and he 643 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 6: wears muppet costumes. So he yeah, and then remember when 644 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 6: you worked for the India and a journal and you 645 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 6: interviewed Fred Tutchery. You know, so Fred was talking about 646 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 6: he's going to retire. No, Brian knows, Fred Putcher. 647 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 5: Bland Scott's talking about mc collins. 648 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 2: Oh the okay, he's not a rookie. If it's mac collins. Yeah, 649 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 2: the receiver. He'll walk around with me. 650 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 6: He doesn't wear sneakers. He walks around with no shoes, 651 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 6: with no shoes on, and yeah, wear I'm really into this, Actually, 652 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 6: I'm really into this guy. Is he going to be 653 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 6: Is he going to be like a big big Is 654 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 6: he going to be a big player on the Patriots? 655 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 7: Now? 656 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 2: Like mccollins is an okay, like role player, but he's 657 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:39,560 Speaker 2: not going to be like like a major asset or 658 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,960 Speaker 2: something like that. He's and I don't Yeah, he's like 659 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: an okay, like three receiver, that type of thing. 660 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 6: Question. So in football, it's hard for one player to 661 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 6: stand out. What does it take for like somebody to 662 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 6: really capture the media on a team like the Patriots, 663 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 6: there's a bunch of nobody's on there right now, Like 664 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,440 Speaker 6: they need a player that can get on like a 665 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 6: sound bite type of guy that to pump the fan 666 00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 6: base up. But there's everybody is just there's a lot 667 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 6: of nobody's on the team, you know what I'm saying. 668 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, all h to do is go to a 669 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 2: party with like a cocaine like substance and then poof, 670 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 2: you know, you got notoriety like Stefine Digs right, like 671 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 2: it's the fine Diggs. I'm kidding about that. But he's 672 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 2: got some personality there, you know. But I hear you like, 673 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 2: largely it's do your job, lunch pail, head down. There's 674 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 2: not a whole lot of you know, like bells and 675 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 2: whistles and personality over there. But that's been the way 676 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: it is, has been for a long time. Thank God 677 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 2: for Gronk, right, Like Gronk was the saving the force 678 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 2: over there for so many years. It was funny. I 679 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 2: appreciate your call, blind Scott. Good to hear from you, man. 680 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 2: It was funny. Like I was working in Alboy, New York, 681 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 2: long time ago doing sports radio and I can't remember 682 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 2: I try to find I can't remember. There was like 683 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:00,720 Speaker 2: a third round wide receiver that the page it's had 684 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 2: from North Carolina. I can't remember the guy's name off 685 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: the top of my head. I could look for it. 686 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 2: But he didn't have great success or anything like that. 687 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: But anyway, my producer he had just started working there 688 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 2: and this is the first interview that he booked, and 689 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 2: he's elated. I think he wore a suit and tie 690 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 2: to the radio studio while we're pre recording this interview. 691 00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 2: You know, we weren't able to do it live, and 692 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:31,319 Speaker 2: I had this I'm trying everything. I'm like, hey man, 693 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 2: what about this story. 694 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm trying to make it good. 695 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 2: And he's just like Minnie Belichick, no bells and whistles, straightforward, 696 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,479 Speaker 2: like nothing interesting. I'm like, dude, we can't even air 697 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 2: this interview. 698 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: Like the producer was crushed. He worked so hard to 699 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: get this interview. We couldn't even air it. 700 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 2: There was just nothing in there that was interesting at all. 701 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 2: But that's been the case for a lot of players. 702 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with it, but it is not the most 703 00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 2: interesting team of personalities. But you have some every now 704 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 2: and then, Gronk Edelman, you know, you get some good 705 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 2: personalities sometimes. 706 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to coming up. 707 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 2: Gosh, oh, there's an interesting opinion from a basketball coach 708 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:20,760 Speaker 2: about a day being dead. No longer are we gonna 709 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 2: see something that we saw plenty of years ago. I'll 710 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 2: get to that coming up. I'm Brian no In for 711 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 2: Big Ben Maller. This is Fox Sports Radio. 712 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,840 Speaker 7: Be sure to catch live editions of The Ben Maller 713 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 7: Show weekdays at two am Eastern eleven pm Pacific. 714 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: It is Fox Sports Radio. I'm Brian though in for 715 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 2: Big Ben malor. 716 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: So. I saw this. 717 00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 2: I saw a video with Rick Patino, who's the head 718 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 2: basketball coach at Saint John's right back in college, had 719 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 2: a lot of success last season. They they they fizzled 720 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 2: out in uh in March madness. They're turning the ball 721 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,000 Speaker 2: over like crazy, couldn't make layups. You. It was ugly 722 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 2: but really good season for Rick Patino. But what caught 723 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 2: my attention was he was talking about the point guard 724 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 2: in basketball basically being no more. 725 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,800 Speaker 1: And I thought it was an interesting. 726 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 2: Take, and he he didn't just think about the college game. 727 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 2: He's talking about the pro game in particular. Now, the 728 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 2: audio isn't great, you know how it is at basketball practice. 729 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 2: Basketball is bouncing in the background and stuff like that, 730 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 2: but at one point I think you'll be able to 731 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 2: hear what he's saying well enough. And at one point 732 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 2: he's asked by a reporter. He's like, well, what would 733 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 2: you say about Jalen Brunson, the Knicks point guard? Right 734 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 2: because Patino was talking about man, we don't have any 735 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,239 Speaker 2: point guards anymore. These guys are looking to score. And 736 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 2: the reporter's like, well, what would you say about Jalen Brunson. 737 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,000 Speaker 2: So that's all you need to know is sit back 738 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 2: and let the wisdom. 739 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 1: Of Patino just wash over you. Here you go. 740 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 11: There are no point ouds anymore. Now if you find it, 741 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 11: you'll probably describe him as a guy who can't shoot me. 742 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: He's a combo scoring gud. 743 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 6: I don't think he's looking for the assists. I think 744 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:07,480 Speaker 6: he's looking at. 745 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 11: A squad, and thank god he is. 746 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 5: I said this in a team. 747 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 11: Who's the pointcut in the Knicks, just the Lakers, Celtics, 748 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 11: the champion, World champions. The pointcout is totally done in basketball. 749 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 11: The days of John Stockton are long gone. There are 750 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 11: no more pointcuts. Chris Paul is probably the last one. 751 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 11: So you got to play with everybody handling the basketball 752 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 11: five out and just create good movement. 753 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 2: I thought that was interesting, Whereas like, the point guard 754 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,959 Speaker 2: is completely dead in basketball, and I get why he's 755 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 2: saying that. If you compare it to years ago and 756 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 2: what the point guard used to be and what it 757 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 2: is right now, I could understand how you would say 758 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,880 Speaker 2: it's dead. I would prefer to say it's evolved a lot. 759 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 2: But you still get some of these guys. Trey Young 760 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,800 Speaker 2: is a good example of this with the Hawks, where 761 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 2: he had nearly twelve assists per game. You know, he's 762 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,400 Speaker 2: dominating the ball. He's got the ball in his hands 763 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 2: all the time. It's not like your center is handling 764 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,879 Speaker 2: the rock. You have to have five dudes that can 765 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 2: handle the ball. He handles the ball all the time. 766 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 2: He's a high assist guy. And then he's also looking 767 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 2: to score. He's like Rick Patino said, he's a combo guy. 768 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 2: He's looking to score and he's also looking to dish. 769 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 2: But yeah, if you if your definition of a true 770 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 2: point guard quote unquote is a guy that's looking to 771 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,120 Speaker 2: pass first and score second, Like, yeah, a lot of 772 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 2: those dudes don't exist anymore. There aren't a whole lot 773 00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 2: of those dudes around. They mentioned Shake, Gilgess, Alexander. He's 774 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 2: not looking to distribute, He's looking to put the basketball 775 00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,359 Speaker 2: in the basket. That's what he's looking to do. It's 776 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 2: not say never distributes, but he's looking to score first 777 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 2: and foremost. And so I can understand why you would 778 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 2: say it's dead. I just don't think it goes to 779 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 2: that degree. I think we still have guards that score 780 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 2: a lot. They're focused on scoring, but that's not their 781 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 2: sole mentality. They're still looking to dish the rock. But yeah, 782 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 2: I'll meet them halfway and say, now, more than ever, 783 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,839 Speaker 2: point guards are looking to score first, dish second. That's 784 00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,120 Speaker 2: typically what you run into. But interesting take from him 785 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,799 Speaker 2: coming up next. It's a much needed change for a 786 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 2: very slow starting team.