WEBVTT - Surprise Call-In Show! 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:24.120 Podcast starts now. Welcome all to Stradia Lab. We are 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:29.720 back bi coastally on Zoom. Just me and George today, George, 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:30.920 how the hell are you hi? 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:34.960 You know, it's funny, we're so used to doing this 0:00:35.000 --> 0:00:39.680 for Patreon. You know, the default Patreon recording is, you know, 0:00:40.080 --> 0:00:43.519 maybe a little bit raspy voice on a Sunday afternoon. 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:46.239 Maybe one of us has a coffee, one of us 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:49.680 has a smoothie or some other type of specialty beverage. 0:00:50.680 --> 0:00:54.840 There's no pressure to be firing on all cylinders comedically, 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:59.040 but when you know it through that comes the best 0:00:59.080 --> 0:01:03.360 possible comedy because we can finally relax and be ourselves. Yeah, 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:07.880 and sometimes I forget that most people statistically that listen 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:11.680 to this podcast only get the non patren episodes, And 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.160 it's kind of like, you know, we live this life 0:01:14.200 --> 0:01:18.960 as kind of Zoom domestic partners. We have conversations, we 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:23.360 have debates, we cook dinner, we have breakfast, and then 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:25.360 people only get to see the side of us that 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:26.520 comes out when we have a guest. 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:29.679 Yeah. Yeah, they see us when we've you know, spent 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.720 all day cleaning the house, when we're when we're wearing 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:35.240 our best shirts, when we say let's let's turn on 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:38.400 the face, but now we're sort of letting you in. 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:41.280 It's sort of this this type of episode which just 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:43.280 two of us. It's like being on vacation with someone 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:45.760 and you then wake up the next day and you're like, 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:47.240 so we're still hanging out. 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:50.760 Well, it's that, but it's also being like, God, are 0:01:50.760 --> 0:01:52.880 so comfortable with each other that we can just stay 0:01:52.880 --> 0:01:53.600 in the silence. 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:55.640 Oh, absolutely, Like one of us is. 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.680 Doing the crossword and one of us is reading the 0:01:57.760 --> 0:01:58.800 latest issue. 0:01:58.520 --> 0:02:04.680 Of Harper's Bus speaking of I want to talk to 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:06.160 you about your big party last night. 0:02:06.240 --> 0:02:08.919 Ooh, well, I have to say you know, I went 0:02:08.960 --> 0:02:12.720 to a big party last night. It was uh egg 0:02:12.760 --> 0:02:16.720 how Slata, Tinder and the ACLU were the three co 0:02:16.800 --> 0:02:19.240 hosts of this big fashion week party. And wouldn't you 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:22.160 know what, the MC was our very own Cat Cohen. 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:26.440 When you were posting pictures from there, I was like, God, 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:28.840 I missed New York. Oh and it was in the 0:02:28.880 --> 0:02:31.239 Russian tea room. Have ever been? I've never even been. 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:32.320 I had neither. 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:36.400 And I actually found myself unintentionally lying and talking to 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:38.280 someone and being like, I haven't been here in so 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:40.520 long and then they were like, I actually never been here, 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:42.240 and I was like, yeah, me neither. 0:02:43.600 --> 0:02:46.240 You know I this is this is something that we 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:49.160 both have in common. Actually, if people assume I've been somewhere, 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:51.320 I will let them assume it. I would never correct 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.720 someone to be like like I, yeah, I'll even go 0:02:55.320 --> 0:02:57.360 so far say I fully lied. You know what I 0:02:57.400 --> 0:02:59.560 lie about what I actually the last time I was 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:02.560 in New York called the fuck out? Is I lie 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:06.280 about having been to basement? Oh? Yeah, I have, like 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:08.400 the basement. I actually don't even remember. At this point. 0:03:08.639 --> 0:03:10.680 I'm always like, yeah, I've been to basement. And then 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.120 somebody point blank looked at me and was like wait. 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:14.600 It was like someone I hadn't met before, and it 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:16.639 was sort of like getting to know yu convo. Yeah, 0:03:17.080 --> 0:03:19.119 but like he it was there. It was like him 0:03:19.160 --> 0:03:22.520 and then like a close friend, and he was like, wait, 0:03:22.560 --> 0:03:25.520 have you been to basement before? And I was like no, 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:28.720 And then it was like it was Julio, and Julio's 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:30.880 like jaw dropped, and I was like, see, this is 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:33.000 why I don't tell anyone but I haven't been to 0:03:33.000 --> 0:03:34.920 basement because I don't need to go to basement to 0:03:35.080 --> 0:03:36.600 have been to basement totally. 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.240 Well, this is like me having a terrible sense of 0:03:39.280 --> 0:03:42.840 direction but insisting on nodding vigorously when someone is like, 0:03:43.040 --> 0:03:45.880 you know that spot on Carmine where it's next to 0:03:45.920 --> 0:03:48.880 that one bodega, and I'm like, of course, oh god, 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.080 I used to always go there in two thousand and seven. 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:54.680 I I can't bring myself because I have such a 0:03:54.720 --> 0:03:56.800 bad sense of direction. I don't know which things are, 0:03:57.440 --> 0:04:00.000 which things I should know, and which things are special? 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:02.720 Do you know what I mean? I fully understand. 0:04:02.880 --> 0:04:06.680 It's sort of like it's not embarrassing to not know 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:10.040 a very specific niche intersection, but it is embarrassing to 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.920 not know where Times Square is. But I don't know 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.880 if we're closer to Times Square or closer to random 0:04:15.880 --> 0:04:18.440 intersection on Carmine when I'm talking to someone, so I 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:19.520 just pretend that I know. 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:21.560 Everything well, and it's like, is there gonna be a 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:24.320 quiz on this? Because so many times totally you can 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.120 just get through it and be like I made them 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.640 feel like they were heard, and that's kind of all 0:04:29.640 --> 0:04:32.120 they wanted in that moment. Yeah, And then sometimes they 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:33.880 are like but have you been there? Or like but 0:04:33.960 --> 0:04:37.200 once across the street and I'm like, oh, sorry, I'm kidding. 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:38.200 I don't know what you're. 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:40.120 Talking about, right, See, they want to have a conversation, 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:42.560 whereas you're trying to just get a gold star to. 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:43.800 Go through, to get through the day. 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:46.120 Like you're just trying, You're just trying to prove to 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.840 someone I'm also human. You're Amy Adams holding up the 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.720 human sign in arrival. Meanwhile they're trying to actually have 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:52.400 an interaction. 0:04:53.160 --> 0:04:55.799 Yeah, it's simply not right. It's not right at all. 0:04:55.960 --> 0:04:57.359 By the way, I just want to say for everyone 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.600 listening and being like, God, they're being so loose and sexy, 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.200 and I wish I could hear more of this. You know, 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:04.599 we do this twice a month over on the over 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:07.680 on the Patreon, Patreon, dot com, slash stradio app, and 0:05:07.720 --> 0:05:09.719 it is we are churning them out all. 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:14.479 Yeah, so you had fun at this party. Yes, I 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:16.440 had such a good time at the party. I really did. 0:05:16.480 --> 0:05:20.960 Actually, I was very you know, with events, of course, 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:22.320 you never know which way it's gonna go. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:24.960 Yeah, it's really hit or miss. 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:31.039 It could go. You could be the outsider who doesn't 0:05:31.040 --> 0:05:33.520 fit in. You could also on the other side, of 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:36.400 things be like among the same people you see all 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:38.680 the time, and that's also boring, and you're almost like, 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.960 I wish an outsider would come in, someone like Ryan 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.240 and the Oc, let's say, and really shake things up 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:46.800 in this town, because I am sick of making the 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:49.240 same small talk over and over again. And this was 0:05:49.279 --> 0:05:51.239 a real happy medium. You know, there were some people 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:53.720 I knew, some people they didn't know. It was very 0:05:53.800 --> 0:05:58.040 nice to see Kat like working the room. They played, 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.680 Oh the DJ, you know, I'm at actually gonna look 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:02.320 into who this DJ was so I can give them 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:04.960 a proper shout out on a later app. We're talking 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:09.240 like the perfect balance of you know, there would be 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:12.760 a B side from a Madonna's American Life album, so 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:17.200 they actually specifically played Nobody Knows Me, Wow, Nobody Knows Me, 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.839 and then there would be like, you know, let's say, 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:24.960 like a shot yeah, sort of like a semi ironic 0:06:25.000 --> 0:06:27.240 shod Day remix or something. But then it would go 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.360 right into Abrica. 0:06:29.040 --> 0:06:32.920 Dabra m Heaven Have Been. 0:06:33.160 --> 0:06:38.320 And Martini's were flowing. Finger food was the perfect the 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:40.880 perfect level of finger food because they can obviously be 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:42.919 too little, but it can also be too much. And 0:06:42.920 --> 0:06:45.760 suddenly you're having whole slices of pizza. Yeah, but it 0:06:45.839 --> 0:06:48.240 was just the right amount of past apps. And then 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.359 at the end there was a full hour of just 0:06:50.480 --> 0:06:54.400 pigs and blankets, and you you kept sort of thinking, oh, like, 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:57.280 this is the last one I have to pounce while 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:58.960 they're still going, and then it would be like forty 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.159 five minutes later, pigs and blankets. 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:05.200 Wow. Yeah, And doesn't Kat famously love pigs and blankets? 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:09.520 I actually do think that's true. Wow. I wonder if 0:07:09.560 --> 0:07:11.880 it was because of Kat. Maybe it was because of Cat. 0:07:12.200 --> 0:07:17.960 She kept she kept like making really funny references to 0:07:18.560 --> 0:07:23.400 the idea that Egouslata, Tinder, and the ACLU were natural partners, 0:07:23.520 --> 0:07:26.240 because obviously it's so random that it's those three companies. 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:29.720 So she kept just being like, name a more iconic trio. 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:32.760 I'll wait, I'll wait, I'll wait here all day. Name 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:36.880 a more iconic trio. That is so funny. Wow. The 0:07:36.880 --> 0:07:39.080 more distance I have New York, the more that I'm 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.400 just like it's literally Sex and the City. Like I'm like, God, 0:07:41.440 --> 0:07:43.480 this is like a Sex in the City episode, I know, 0:07:43.600 --> 0:07:47.000 and it's weird to see it from a zoom out lens. 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:49.360 Well, especially Russian Tirium. You know, have you ever been 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:53.400 to Tao And don't lie. I've never been to tow So 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:54.920 I went to town for the first time this year 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:56.840 was just such a I thought it was literally like 0:07:56.880 --> 0:08:00.160 a fictional sex in the city location. Yeah, but I 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:02.960 got to tell you, you know, obviously there's some it's glam 0:08:03.040 --> 0:08:05.840 in its own way, but it does feel like you're 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:08.000 chasing something that is no longer there. 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:10.440 Yeah, it's like working in Hollywood. 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.800 That's right, Well, yes, that's like, yeah, it's like working 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:16.360 in any industry that isn't I guess like doge. 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.720 Yeah, or yeah, Amazon funded. 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:24.520 Or Amazon funded. So what are we doing today? Tell 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:25.240 the listeners. 0:08:25.360 --> 0:08:29.560 So pretty much today we're gonna it's very loose. We're 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:31.960 going to go through some calls and we're going to 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.840 chat and that's essentially it. I would you know. I 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.360 think what's amazing about going through calls is that I'm 0:08:38.400 --> 0:08:40.000 not even we don't even say things like we're going 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:42.320 to be giving advice because well, quite frankly, we're not 0:08:42.920 --> 0:08:46.640 what I love about, you know, as we continue to 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:50.880 deconstruct everything around us. This is a call in show 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:54.480 that's like we will hear your play your call and 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.920 then go okay, and then we'll sort of talk about 0:08:56.920 --> 0:09:01.280 it totally. It's conversation. It's a prompt. 0:09:01.360 --> 0:09:03.880 We're having a conversation, and then when we feel like it, 0:09:04.360 --> 0:09:07.439 we press the button that's like, here's a new prompt exactly, 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:09.520 and whether or not we follow it and to what 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.560 extent is kind of none of your business because this 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:13.760 is a free episode. 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:17.319 And you're not paying for it. This is that supported Malma. 0:09:19.240 --> 0:09:21.880 I'm actually tired for no good reason. I mean, I 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.880 did nothing last night. But Gizmo the dog, you know, 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:30.480 normally a very healthy and strong constitution. I'll tell you what. 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:33.800 He was diarrhea ing like crazy last night. Oh my god. 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.000 And in a way that was kind of I was like, 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:39.280 is everything okay? So I kept having to get up 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:42.640 and like clean things. Actually it was like a nightmare. 0:09:44.520 --> 0:09:46.960 But I think he seems better today. But it was 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:48.679 really like I was like, is this what it's like 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:52.880 to have a child? Kind of, I was like, damn, 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:53.800 I'm not built for it. 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.240 We you know, our niece lives like a ten minute 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.079 walk from us, so it's very nice because we get 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:00.760 to see her whenever we want and I'm actually gonna 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:03.360 go see her after this. And you know, I've always 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:05.360 been pretty ambivalent about having kids, and I sort of 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:09.600 thought having a niece would move me definitively in one direction, 0:10:11.600 --> 0:10:15.199 and it almost has done the opposite, where I'm kind 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:19.160 of like even less decisive about it that because I'm like, oh, so, 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:21.840 now I just have like an on call child, Like 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:25.880 I can go whenever I want in microdose being a parent. Yeah, 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:27.360 and I don't have to do any of the like 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:30.439 difficult things I never like when I miss her, I 0:10:30.440 --> 0:10:32.400 can just see her. 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.240 Yeah, why would I have my own? No? 0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.120 But then also if I'm driven to see her, does 0:10:38.160 --> 0:10:40.880 that mean I want to be a parent. It's unclear. 0:10:41.240 --> 0:10:44.520 It's unclear. The whole thing confuses me quite a bit. 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.559 I know, well, here's the thing. Sorry, Will, I will 0:10:47.559 --> 0:10:48.240 play the first call. 0:10:48.280 --> 0:10:51.720 But I have a theory that like, there's something about 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.040 having a child in your twenties that is sort of 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.400 a classic for a reason, because you're just dumb enough 0:10:56.440 --> 0:10:59.800 to not or just an experienced enough to not consider 0:11:00.120 --> 0:11:02.640 the difficulties of it. And I actually think because there's 0:11:02.679 --> 0:11:03.840 part of me that's like, oh my god, what am 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.080 I going to be fifty still considering whether I want kids, 0:11:06.120 --> 0:11:08.040 and it's like, yeah, because the older you get, the 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.880 more stuff you know, and the more there is to 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.640 sacrifice if you change your life radically from one day 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:19.120 to the other. It's it's actually not that I'm you know, immature, 0:11:19.600 --> 0:11:23.400 or like night you know, or or like I need 0:11:23.440 --> 0:11:26.400 to grow up that I'm still undecided. It's like, yeah, 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.160 it makes more sense to be undecided in your thirties 0:11:29.160 --> 0:11:30.400 than it does when you're twenty three. 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.760 I fully fully agree. Sometimes I think about that with 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.000 like getting married too. When people like get married at 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:39.040 twenty five, I was like, that's so young, and I'm like, wait, 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.720 maybe they were right, Like there was something like it's 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:45.120 like more like yes, obviously there's more risk of like 0:11:45.120 --> 0:11:47.920 getting divorced later. But still it's like, but you were 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:50.240 like living out loud, you were like not dumb enough 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.679 to really consider everything else, and you know what else. 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:55.160 That's what I feel about career stuff too, because like, 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:58.760 for example, in most of Europe, and I believe honestly 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.440 in most places outside of Marria, you like apply and 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.760 get into a field. It's like you apply to college 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:07.559 and you get into the psychology program, you get into 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:11.240 you know, the law program whatever, and then you're like, well, 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:13.560 we got to do it live, whereas here it's like 0:12:13.600 --> 0:12:17.600 you spend four years just reading books, then you have 0:12:17.679 --> 0:12:20.480 to have a fifteen year long unpaid internship, and then 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.520 suddenly at thirty five you're like, oh, is my heart 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:25.959 really in it? And it's like, well, by this point, 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.520 someone in Sweden has four children and is running for offits. 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:36.280 Yeah, yeah, it's it's tough. It's tough. Being in this 0:12:36.360 --> 0:12:38.600 age is funny. I'm like, I can't tell if it's 0:12:38.600 --> 0:12:40.840 this age or if it's la but hobbies are back. 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:42.920 So I tell you that, really I think hobbies are 0:12:42.920 --> 0:12:44.920 back in a big way. Well hobbies. 0:12:45.040 --> 0:12:49.760 I do think you are obviously right that like childless 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:53.040 people in their thirties go back to hobbies, and that just. 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:56.440 Is a fact. That just is a fact. And what 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.840 kind of hobbies are we talking? Oh, you know, I 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:04.880 think woodworking. M I think like, okay, I took. I 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:06.800 mean this is like a it's not a real one, 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.120 but I went to the have you ever been to 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:12.640 the gay guy dance class? You're gonna have to be 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:17.120 more specific, the one that Alec Cohen does. Oh no, no, 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:20.360 I haven't at gay choreographer on Instagram. Oh, I know 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:24.120 him well. He he did an LA one yesterday and 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:27.080 I went to it and it was extremely fun. Highly 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:30.360 recommend if anyone is interested in it. A dance class 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:33.800 pop music, pop pop music. We learned to dance to 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.360 green Light by Lord Oh and it was so much fun. 0:13:37.960 --> 0:13:41.400 And but I was like I also couldn't stop zooming 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.400 out and be like, this is like Charlotte going to 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:45.960 like take a salsa class and like hoping to like 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.520 switch it up and be like I've still got it, 0:13:48.520 --> 0:13:49.800 don't I I've still got it. 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:55.080 Oh, it's so hard to how like, uh, these things 0:13:55.120 --> 0:13:57.640 are coded as somehow embarrassing. It's like, oh, you want 0:13:57.640 --> 0:14:00.200 to like develop a scale, you want to like have fun, 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:03.480 you want to meet people loser. We need to get 0:14:03.520 --> 0:14:04.520 away from that mindset. 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:07.520 It's also funny to be there and be like, there's 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.440 all these gay guys that I either I don't know 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:12.680 or have like vaguely been at the same events as 0:14:13.160 --> 0:14:15.840 because and like we just all say hello as if 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.360 we know each other, like hugging and being like hi, Hi, 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:20.240 it's like we do not know each other. 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.800 Oh, also have to say gig guy, helloes have gotten 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.040 to a I would say avant garde point at this 0:14:27.240 --> 0:14:29.680 at this point, like you genuinely don't know if someone 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:33.400 is going to like do a little jig when they 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.520 see you or fully make out with tongue, and I 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.280 have no idea what I'm even going for. And by 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:41.480 the way, you know what, it's the most lame possible 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.200 thing you can do. Go in for a hug. That's 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:45.560 the one thing no one does anymore. If you're going 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:47.960 in for a hug, you might as well be saying, no, homo, 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.480 I don't care what you do behind closed doors, dude, 0:14:51.560 --> 0:14:52.840 but like it's not for me. 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:57.080 Yeah, you at least have to gomah as you do it. Yes, 0:14:57.920 --> 0:14:59.720 you have to go maa also. 0:14:59.800 --> 0:15:02.080 Or it's like it's like two gay guys in a 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:03.520 row will kiss me on the lips, so then I'll 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:04.160 be like, okay, so. 0:15:04.120 --> 0:15:06.040 This is a lip party. So then I'll go for 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:06.760 it with the third. 0:15:06.560 --> 0:15:08.880 One, and he'll like like not be ready for it, 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:10.760 and I'm like, no, it's not my fault. Like I 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:12.240 thought we were doing lips tonight. 0:15:12.840 --> 0:15:18.040 The president was set. I'm just following president, that is true. 0:15:18.080 --> 0:15:18.720 I love the gig guy. 0:15:18.760 --> 0:15:21.440 Hello, you know, it's funny, we've just created a version 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:24.480 because already straight I hello famously confusing because you don't 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.000 know what sort of like handshake they're going to go 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.320 in for. And so now we've created that. But the 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:33.280 more gay version, which is what level of makeout are 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:37.720 you doing with your random online friend you've met once before? 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:47.240 Speaking of gay versus straight? Howbout we take a first call. 0:15:47.440 --> 0:15:48.080 Let's do it. 0:15:48.400 --> 0:15:51.640 Hi, George, Hi Sam, a big fan. My name is Zach. 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:56.080 So I came out really late. I came out at 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:58.760 like the age of twenty seven, and I was like 0:15:58.800 --> 0:15:59.560 four years ago. 0:16:00.200 --> 0:16:03.520 And I have a wonderful boyfriend who is like my 0:16:03.680 --> 0:16:06.920 seeing eye dog for like gay world. But I still 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.360 kind of feel like a kid who is homeschooled this 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:10.920 whole life who suddenly is. 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:12.880 Like at his first day of public high school. 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:18.800 So I guess my question is, like, how do I 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.880 act more gay for lack of a better term with 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:23.760 while still like being myself? 0:16:24.040 --> 0:16:27.960 And like how do I know, like what parts of myself. 0:16:27.600 --> 0:16:34.760 Are truly me versus what I like conditioned myself to act, 0:16:34.920 --> 0:16:36.800 like think, like be interested. 0:16:36.400 --> 0:16:38.200 In from being in the closet for so long. 0:16:38.520 --> 0:16:41.120 Thanks Bite, an even a voice like that, I don't 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:44.800 think you need any more help being more gay, you bitch. 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:50.800 I actually you know, I was going to say he 0:16:50.800 --> 0:16:52.480 has a hot voice to me, am I wrong. 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:54.840 Well it can be hot and still be gay sounding. 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:58.320 Wow, look at me doing internalized homophobia. You're like, your 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:00.000 voice sounds a gay like No, actually it was pretty 0:17:03.080 --> 0:17:04.560 I just want to say, I think it's the perfect 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:06.760 level of gay. I think it is in conversation with 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:08.320 some of the great gay guys we know. 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:09.920 And I think it's a great gay voice. 0:17:09.920 --> 0:17:12.320 I don't think it's especially by the way, it's no 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.800 problem if it's If it was super Queenie, that would 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.040 also be completely fine. But I think in the range 0:17:17.080 --> 0:17:19.760 of like super Queenie on one end and kind of 0:17:19.800 --> 0:17:23.720 like surprisingly husky, like a Jared Goldstein, let's say where 0:17:23.720 --> 0:17:27.000 you're like, oh, I didn't know what we were doing 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:31.280 with a mask for mask mama tonight. I think it 0:17:31.359 --> 0:17:32.919 is a perfect down the middle, and I think it 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:34.600 is a perfectly lovely voice. 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.119 I think it's a perfectly lovely voice. And I'm sorry 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.679 I said it sounded gay, but I also not I 0:17:39.720 --> 0:17:42.159 celebrated it sounding gay, and and I think it's a 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:44.600 I say it because it's it's always a funny question. 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:46.080 Someone's like, how do I be more gay? And it's like, 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:48.760 totally look inward, bitch, you best start believe it in 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:49.720 being gay. You already are. 0:17:50.040 --> 0:17:55.000 I distinctly remember having this issue, you know, go into 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:57.600 your first gay bar, gay club, whatever, and thinking the 0:17:57.680 --> 0:17:59.879 issue is that you're not gay enough, when actually the 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:01.720 issue is that you're like do gay. 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:09.000 I wish there were some examples. I think, like, I know, 0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:10.879 I know what he means, of course. 0:18:10.720 --> 0:18:13.760 And by the way, I have that feeling every time 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:15.400 I'm in a new community of any. 0:18:15.280 --> 0:18:20.280 Kind of course, you have that feeling. Yeah, yeah, Like 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:23.080 I've always joked that I wish I had been closeted 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:24.680 a little bit longer so I could have a favorite 0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:28.240 football team, because I think, as a gay guy now, 0:18:28.320 --> 0:18:32.320 it is so funny to be like, yes, i'm, i'm, i'm, 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:35.080 my paws are up, but when the game's on, don't 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:38.320 talk to me. I think that would be fun, but 0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:39.480 unfortunately it didn't happen for you. 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:41.280 You know, to that point, I just want to say 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:45.320 so many gay guys are sorry to use the word 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:49.159 performative this way, but performatively liking straight things these days, 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:55.080 and I think it's not cute anymore. Like stop it, 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:58.560 because actually, at this point it's not ironic. You are 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:03.960 just feeding into, feeding into what Trump wants. It's enough 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:08.080 enough of a gay guy being like, actually, what I 0:19:08.119 --> 0:19:11.520 really love is beer and football with the boys. Some 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:17.480 have some have some self respect and listen to tanache. 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:22.760 Is that too much to ask? We're not asking you 0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:25.919 to stop liking It's also just like that's just like, 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:27.719 don't take pride in it. It's like, don't doesn't make 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:28.159 kids like. 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:32.680 It's just as kind of basic and normal as if 0:19:32.680 --> 0:19:33.920 a straight guy liked it. 0:19:33.920 --> 0:19:35.800 It doesn't make you special. No. 0:19:36.400 --> 0:19:39.439 And I'm also especially angry about this today because I so, 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.480 Matthew and I have a reservation for four at this restaurant. 0:19:42.520 --> 0:19:45.360 It's Super Bowl Sunday, okay, woo hoo, And so I'm 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:47.800 asking around, I'm saying, which gay guys can go with us? 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:51.239 Every single one has Super Bowl plans. Really, I'm like, 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:56.399 wait the fuck up and come and come to this 0:19:56.720 --> 0:19:59.040