Speaker 1: Hi guys, and welcome back to this week's episode of
Speaker 1: The Left bal Podcast. I'm your host, Sammy J. Welcome.
Speaker 1: I hope you guys had a lovely week. We did
Speaker 1: not pose last week because it was Thanksgiving, but I
Speaker 1: hope you had a lovely day and I'm very thankful
Speaker 1: for all of you, and I'm also thankful for this episode.
Speaker 1: Look at that transition, you guys. Anyways, Um, this week
Speaker 1: I got to chat with the incredibly talented Olivia O'Brien.
Speaker 1: We have a really daunderous conversation about life growing up
Speaker 1: in the public eye, social media, dating, her music, her
Speaker 1: latest tour, her EP episode season one, and so much more.
Speaker 1: I hope you guys enjoy. I was so excited during
Speaker 1: my podcast and I'm so excited we're doing this in person.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. Do you normally do zoom stuff?
Speaker 1: Is that what even doing lately? Or what was in
Speaker 1: person than pandemic and now it's like a mixture. So
Speaker 1: I'm like seeing people in person just makes me so happy. Yeah, same, same.
Speaker 1: I'd love to tell to about social media. How do
Speaker 1: you find a balance? You have millions of followers on Instagram.
Speaker 1: I'm nineteen and for so many other people in my age,
Speaker 1: and for some it's fun, but it's also part of
Speaker 1: a business and it can sometimes be really difficult. It's
Speaker 1: really hard, and I pretty much have to be on
Speaker 1: social media. Like I've taken breaks before and just like
Speaker 1: send my photos to Max and been like you can
Speaker 1: you post this? Um, it's weird. It's it's hard. I
Speaker 1: stopped editing my photos like I used to, like not
Speaker 1: like changing everything, but like I used to like use
Speaker 1: face two and like I don't really use it anymore,
Speaker 1: like I do. I mean, if I have a pimple
Speaker 1: or like, if something looks weird in a photo, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna edit it out. But I don't know. It's just
Speaker 1: like I'm trying really hard to have a healthy relationship
Speaker 1: with social media myself. It's I think it's a struggle.
Speaker 1: It's kind of um an impossible task, or it seems
Speaker 1: very daunting because like you, literally the internet is dangerous.
Speaker 1: You have access to literally any piece of information about
Speaker 1: anything or anyone at any time pretty much, and even
Speaker 1: if it's not true, you can still probably find out
Speaker 1: something about something like people's conspiracy theories and like I
Speaker 1: don't know and and everyone's um, you can go down
Speaker 1: a rabbit hole so fast. Yeah, Like I always see
Speaker 1: things about myself that aren't even true, and like that
Speaker 1: must be so annoying. It's like the weirdest feeling in
Speaker 1: the world. But I have just really been trying to
Speaker 1: not focus on anyone else but me when I'm on
Speaker 1: social media. Like that sounds not like in a selfish way,
Speaker 1: but like I don't need to go compare my likes
Speaker 1: to this person. Also, turning my legs off was really
Speaker 1: like I I really really liked doing that. I'm not
Speaker 1: ashamed to admit it. I've deleted photos in the past,
Speaker 1: and it's just it's stupid. If you like a photo,
Speaker 1: just post it exactly when you turn the legs off,
Speaker 1: and you like, I don't even really check, Like I'm
Speaker 1: the only one that can see how many I get
Speaker 1: and I don't even check it because it's it still
Speaker 1: says like and others to me and my profile and
Speaker 1: you click on any looks like if I don't want
Speaker 1: to know, I don't even have to know. I haven't
Speaker 1: been on TikTok in a really long time. And maybe
Speaker 1: it's add but I'm proud of myself for that. But
Speaker 1: I am um what's your favorite social media app? Because
Speaker 1: something that I know I've talked about in past episodes,
Speaker 1: but in college specifically, the main app that's used is Snapchat.
Speaker 1: Texting is not a thing. It's just snapchatting. And to me,
Speaker 1: I just I missed text and I wish I could
Speaker 1: delete Snapchat sometimes, but it's how everyone communicates. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: such a like college and high school thing. I hate it.
Speaker 1: I absolutely hate it. My best friend she is uh,
Speaker 1: she goes to school at um Pitzer, like forty five
Speaker 1: minutes away from here, and she's she came over. She
Speaker 1: sleep and sleeping my house for the past two nights,
Speaker 1: and she was like snapchatting this boy last night. And
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, I haven't used snapchat in so long,
Speaker 1: Like I just don't use it. Whenever someone snapchats me,
Speaker 1: I'm very confused. Um, but it's such a college thing.
Speaker 1: I know, it's terrible. I wish people could just text
Speaker 1: me or call me, just text me, I know, seriously,
Speaker 1: Like why it just seems like sus and weird and
Speaker 1: it reminds me of like middle school and it's not.
Speaker 1: It triggers me from high school. And I was like,
Speaker 1: did I just get out of here. Yeah, it's not
Speaker 1: not the greatest. Um. I'd say my go to social
Speaker 1: media is probably TikTok, just because it's so easy to
Speaker 1: just waste so much time and and I feel like
Speaker 1: it's especially in the music industry, everyone's so obsessed with
Speaker 1: it right now, like let's make this a trend and
Speaker 1: blahlah ball and you feel like you're left out if
Speaker 1: you're not always on TikTok. Like there's so many weird
Speaker 1: trends that are always happening. It's like, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's it's like there's always another one. It feels like
Speaker 1: the like YouTube for people with really short attentions. Because
Speaker 1: is it hard writing music in such an time period
Speaker 1: when it's all about, you know, making sure that this
Speaker 1: goes viral, this blows up, but actually focusing on the
Speaker 1: art of it still. Honestly, when I'm writing, I don't
Speaker 1: think about anything except for what I want to say, um,
Speaker 1: because that's just how my best songs are made, and
Speaker 1: that's how I work as an artists, like always what
Speaker 1: I've done since I was a little kid. Um. But
Speaker 1: you know, like the other day I wrote a song
Speaker 1: I was I just started writing going back into sessions
Speaker 1: pretty recently, um, after like me in my little tour
Speaker 1: and just I've been super busy with other things and
Speaker 1: I haven't really been writing. But I had two sessions
Speaker 1: last week, and the first one we wrote this song
Speaker 1: and it was we were having so much fun. It
Speaker 1: was like a really great session and we finished a
Speaker 1: song and I was like, wait, like this, actually I
Speaker 1: could see like this being a moment on TikTok or something,
Speaker 1: and I was glad that I didn't have that thought
Speaker 1: until after we had already written the song. But like,
Speaker 1: that's kind of how it works. It's like, oh, I
Speaker 1: could see this happening, and then it's like after the
Speaker 1: song is done, I'm like, oh, what could I do
Speaker 1: for this? But I also don't really like I it
Speaker 1: sucks to think like that, Like you don't want to
Speaker 1: be like, well, let's make a song that will but
Speaker 1: with the age we're living in, it's kind of hard
Speaker 1: not to think that way. Yeah. Yeah, but it's like
Speaker 1: I've never even like even before TikTok was a thing, um,
Speaker 1: I never wrote a song or wrote songs being like, well,
Speaker 1: let's try to get it as as top forty radio
Speaker 1: as possible so that we could get it like to
Speaker 1: sound as radio and cool, like I never thought like
Speaker 1: that work. That's what I find so interesting and so
Speaker 1: kind of unique about your career is that it just
Speaker 1: started with that one song I Hate You, I Love You,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't about blowing up. It was just about
Speaker 1: writing and using that as therapy, which is so special,
Speaker 1: and it just just goes to show like art can
Speaker 1: speak alone for itself exactly, and that's what I've been
Speaker 1: trying to, like not necessarily trying to replicate, but I
Speaker 1: don't want to ever like be like, oh and you
Speaker 1: know their head and their head, I need to write
Speaker 1: a hit, because that's not how I Hate You, I
Speaker 1: Love You happened. Yeah, it's not how anything like you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just want to you know, make stuff that I'm
Speaker 1: proud of and that I like, and um, stay true
Speaker 1: to myself, and that's more important to me than anything else.
Speaker 1: What was your favorite experience playing so far, Like, have
Speaker 1: you had a certain performance that's that as your mind
Speaker 1: is like your favorite. I think Lollapalooza was really special
Speaker 1: because it was my first real show back after um
Speaker 1: the Pandemic, and it was just incredible. There was so
Speaker 1: so many more people than I thought would be there.
Speaker 1: It was really really hot and like kind of excruciating,
Speaker 1: but it was really fun. So um yeah, that was
Speaker 1: just like a great weekend. It was kind of like
Speaker 1: my my introduction back into the world of performing and
Speaker 1: just festivals in general. Um, and it was it was
Speaker 1: really great and memorable. But I think all my performances
Speaker 1: are special for different reasons, you know. Like it's kind
Speaker 1: of like asking me what my favorite song of mine is,
Speaker 1: Like I don't really have one, because like I like
Speaker 1: them for all all for different reasons, you know. And
Speaker 1: also like each performance is a different audience and you
Speaker 1: get like a different energy and I make a different mistake.
Speaker 1: What happens when you do and make a mistake on stage,
Speaker 1: because I cannot imagine do you just like embrace it
Speaker 1: and then just go forward or do you just kind
Speaker 1: of skip past it. I always I pretty much always
Speaker 1: pointed out like I'm always like oh sorry, guys, or
Speaker 1: like I just like I'm like fuck. I think people
Speaker 1: forget that everyone's human, and then when people funk up
Speaker 1: on stage, it's like, yeah, they are. That needs to
Speaker 1: think be celebrated more than anything else. I think I
Speaker 1: try to make it a point to like show the
Speaker 1: fact that I am very imperfect whenever I can, because
Speaker 1: I don't ever want anyone It's not just like, it's
Speaker 1: kind of multiple things, like I don't want to have
Speaker 1: to uphold some perfect image that I know I'm never
Speaker 1: gonna be. And I also, you know, want everyone to
Speaker 1: know that nobody's perfect and they don't have to be perfect.
Speaker 1: E there. You know. It's kind of like a bunch
Speaker 1: of different things. It's something that I love about performances.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever seen Julie Michaels live,
Speaker 1: but it was one of the best performances I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: It's like when artists talk to the audience and just
Speaker 1: have fun with it like you do, it makes you
Speaker 1: feel like you have a connection with the people that
Speaker 1: are there, and it just makes you experience so much
Speaker 1: more enjoyable. Yeah. Yeah, I don't want to ever feel
Speaker 1: like I'm like a robot. And just like some people,
Speaker 1: I feel like the only thing that they change in
Speaker 1: their set at each city is like hello in different
Speaker 1: city here, and like I always try I have like
Speaker 1: this this uh tour that I most recently just did,
Speaker 1: I did my California shows in like week. But um,
Speaker 1: it's like the closest thing I've ever had to like
Speaker 1: something kind of scripted, Like I have things that I say,
Speaker 1: but I still kind of try to mix it up
Speaker 1: a little bit because keep you on your toes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I I don't know, it's hard for me to
Speaker 1: do the same thing every single night I want it
Speaker 1: gets boring and too Like I do want to make
Speaker 1: it personal to whoever is there, Like I don't want
Speaker 1: every single person to get the exact same thing and
Speaker 1: they know exactly what they're getting and then it's not special,
Speaker 1: you know. And I know you've talked about like being
Speaker 1: in creative threats and all that, and they creative threats
Speaker 1: are so underratedly terrible and not discussed because enough because
Speaker 1: a few months ago I was in a really bad
Speaker 1: creative right, probably the first one I've ever truly experienced.
Speaker 1: And I look at YouTube videos like how to get
Speaker 1: out of creative rent, and there is nothing. It happens
Speaker 1: all the time. Um, sometimes I there's nothing I can
Speaker 1: really do to get out of it. I just kind
Speaker 1: of cancel all my sessions and try to go live
Speaker 1: my life. That's usually what I do is I just
Speaker 1: try to experience things. I try to not work and
Speaker 1: not force myself to work sometimes if it's if it's
Speaker 1: been a really long time and I'm just kind of
Speaker 1: used to like having writer's block. Like the other day
Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago, I was like starting to write
Speaker 1: by myself in my studio again, and I just forced
Speaker 1: myself to write like eight songs. Um Like I would
Speaker 1: go in every single day and just like write a
Speaker 1: little song by myself. Didn't ask me good, Yeah, don't
Speaker 1: have to be good, just like as a little exercise.
Speaker 1: Like so if you really are stuck and you know
Speaker 1: you need to start being creative again, you just kind
Speaker 1: of have to force yourself. And if it's bad, it's bad.
Speaker 1: But once you get kind of back into the rhythm
Speaker 1: of it, like it'll start feeling normal again and then
Speaker 1: you'll get more inspired. But for the most part, I
Speaker 1: just like to go out and live my life and
Speaker 1: meet people and try to get inspiration from wherever I can,
Speaker 1: because like that's that's just how it works for me. Look,
Speaker 1: that's what your songs are. They're about your life. So
Speaker 1: the best way to be inspired is to live your life.
Speaker 1: What's your favorite part of songwriting. I like how it
Speaker 1: just kind of acts as a therapy for me and
Speaker 1: I can say whatever I want, um, and a lot
Speaker 1: of times, like I'll be too afraid to tell someone
Speaker 1: something to their face, but I can always write a
Speaker 1: song about it. That's awesome. What an awesome outlet to have. Great,
Speaker 1: it's amazing, and it kind of it can help me
Speaker 1: realize things. And it's also like every time I go
Speaker 1: in and especially when I work with a top lener
Speaker 1: that I really love, like another writer, Um, it's like
Speaker 1: having therapy because I should tell them what we're going
Speaker 1: to write about, like to tell them about everything that's
Speaker 1: been going on with my life, and I'll realize so
Speaker 1: many things. Like my last session that I had, I
Speaker 1: even told her, I was like, this feels like therapy
Speaker 1: right now because we were going over just everything that
Speaker 1: I've done in the past week and how I was
Speaker 1: getting over this guy and I realized like that and
Speaker 1: she made me realize, like I'm that I don't love
Speaker 1: this kid. Like it was like crazy. I was. I
Speaker 1: was saying, They're like, wow, this is a very clarity,
Speaker 1: very deep session we're having right now. But it was great.
Speaker 1: It was awesome, so Um, yeah, I mean it's it's
Speaker 1: also nice that I get to do this as a
Speaker 1: job because it's something I would be doing regardless if
Speaker 1: you weren't a singer or if you weren't an artist
Speaker 1: who was putting their music out there. What do you
Speaker 1: think you'd be doing, Um, I'll probably be either a
Speaker 1: lawyer or a psychologist. Like being interested in psychology has
Speaker 1: helped me with my song writing a law because it's
Speaker 1: like analyze people and it makes me like think deeper
Speaker 1: about what I'm writing, about what I want to say,
Speaker 1: and how I feel about other people and how they
Speaker 1: feel about me, and it gives me more concepts and
Speaker 1: it's cool. I think that's so interesting. Something that we
Speaker 1: actually have in common is that I also have O
Speaker 1: c D and struggle with anxiety. And when I heard
Speaker 1: you talking about it, I was like, Man, more people
Speaker 1: should talk about it because I feel like there's such
Speaker 1: a stereotype like if you have O c D, like
Speaker 1: you just like to have everything clean and organize. It's like, no,
Speaker 1: it's different for everybody. For me, it's like I never
Speaker 1: even would have thought that I possibly could have O
Speaker 1: c D until I got diagnosed. Because people are so
Speaker 1: wrong about what it is and it can be. Yes,
Speaker 1: some people with o c D love to have everything
Speaker 1: clean and a lot of time, but it's not. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and like, especially if you have like O c D
Speaker 1: and a d h D, like that's so hard because
Speaker 1: you don't have the eni span to like clean and
Speaker 1: make your life perfect. But then it piss you off
Speaker 1: that it's not perfect, but then you can't fix it
Speaker 1: because it's so distracted and you're doing it all these days.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just like, yeah, anxiety disorders are
Speaker 1: really so annoying. Yeah, and they're also really complex, Like
Speaker 1: I think they all are very similar, but then they're different.
Speaker 1: So it's like and everyone reacts to it differently, everyone
Speaker 1: perceives differently exactly. My sister has OCD two, so it's
Speaker 1: like and we both just got diagnosed. And it's crazy
Speaker 1: because I've been going to therapy and seeing psychiatrists since
Speaker 1: I was a kid, so like I should have been
Speaker 1: but they were just like we were depressed, you anxiety whatever, whatever.
Speaker 1: And then it took a long time with me actually explaining.
Speaker 1: And then I also started talking to my friends about
Speaker 1: like you know, intrusive thoughts and random things and I'm like,
Speaker 1: did this happen to you guys? And they're like no.
Speaker 1: And I always thought that that happened until I started
Speaker 1: actually asking people about it. I hate it therapy for
Speaker 1: a while because my my mom like kind of forced
Speaker 1: me to be in therapy. I would think I was
Speaker 1: around eight two was when my parents were separated. My
Speaker 1: mom was like, I need to put them in therapy.
Speaker 1: My mom like loves therapy and she's the biggest advocate
Speaker 1: for therapy. But you got to be ready to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you don't want to go, you're not going to
Speaker 1: get anything out of therapy if someone's forcing you to go.
Speaker 1: Like I would sit there and I wouldn't talk because
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't want to talk. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what I wanted to say. I didn't know why
Speaker 1: I was even there. Like it was, it was just
Speaker 1: not beneficial to me at all. It was wasting an
Speaker 1: hour of my week every week. It took me a
Speaker 1: while of realizing like, Okay, I actually want to go
Speaker 1: to therapy and I want to help myself. This is
Speaker 1: the first time in my life that has actually been
Speaker 1: beneficial to me. Because I decided that I wanted to
Speaker 1: go and I made the active decision, and that's when
Speaker 1: I got my diagnosis and when everything started to make
Speaker 1: sense and I got a medication, and now I'm doing
Speaker 1: so much better because I wanted to do better. You know,
Speaker 1: there's something very special. I know special is an interesting
Speaker 1: word to is, but I'm going to use it anyways.
Speaker 1: About when you get diagnosed, everything, at least for me,
Speaker 1: it just clicks. I've just went through so many life
Speaker 1: experiences and it all made sense. You go home and
Speaker 1: google literally everything about it, and you're like, does this
Speaker 1: have to do with my O c D? And you're like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, and it makes you feel less alone.
Speaker 1: But you've got to be ready for it. But I
Speaker 1: think one of the things that I've learned for me
Speaker 1: at least is that I wouldn't be who I am
Speaker 1: if I don't have anxiety. If I don't have O
Speaker 1: c D, it wouldn't have I wouldn't be talking to
Speaker 1: you right now, frankly. And I think I'm trying to
Speaker 1: find the good parts in it and then what sucks?
Speaker 1: It's making me who I am? Yeah, and I think
Speaker 1: it makes I think having an anxiety disorder like makes
Speaker 1: you a little bit more of a complex thinker because
Speaker 1: you're always thinking about literally everything, and I know that's
Speaker 1: such a like it sucks and there there's no I'm
Speaker 1: just relating to you right now. I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: find a solverligning is like it's like, okay, well, I
Speaker 1: still don't want an anxiety disorders because it makes me
Speaker 1: a deep thinker. But like it's a nice, cool little
Speaker 1: side of it, like you know what different integay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and I agree it's I mean, but that's with
Speaker 1: everything in life you're you wouldn't be who you are
Speaker 1: without every single part of you, and it all, it
Speaker 1: all makes up the big picture, right, So yeah, I
Speaker 1: like to look at I like to look at it
Speaker 1: that way as well. Okay, we have to take a
Speaker 1: quick break, but when we come back, I want to
Speaker 1: talk more about your music, tour and so much more.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back and we're back. I will say.
Speaker 1: One thing I love about your projects and you as
Speaker 1: an artist is that you're so versatile. Like Seasons episode one,
Speaker 1: it just shows the difference in the styles you like,
Speaker 1: and that's so incredible in itself. I like a lot
Speaker 1: of different things. I like a lot of different genres
Speaker 1: of music and also different TV shows. I'll go through
Speaker 1: phases where I'm super into a certain kind of music
Speaker 1: or certain show. Yeah, but but then I think, and
Speaker 1: then when I move on from that, or like I'll
Speaker 1: start dressing differently, But I still like how of all
Speaker 1: the other parts of me and the other phases within
Speaker 1: my personality and within who I am. So I feel
Speaker 1: like I can kind of be everything all at once,
Speaker 1: and I don't ever want to put myself into a
Speaker 1: box of like, oh, I have to make songs at
Speaker 1: all sound like this because this is what people want
Speaker 1: from me, or oh I can only have this aesthetic
Speaker 1: because everyone thinks that this is my thing. Like, no,
Speaker 1: you can literally if you like the whole The most
Speaker 1: beautiful part about living in the time that we live
Speaker 1: in is you can be and do anything that pretty
Speaker 1: much anything that you want now hear me at But
Speaker 1: I think it would be so cool if one of
Speaker 1: the songs he wrote on Seasons was actually put in
Speaker 1: a TV show. That would be that would be pretty cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be pretty cool. When is season two coming out? Um? Seasons? Um,
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I don't know. So basically what
Speaker 1: happened right now is um or what's happening right now
Speaker 1: is that are my labels in like a very transitional period.
Speaker 1: We are president left and basically like everyone that I've
Speaker 1: worked with on on the team at my label is gone.
Speaker 1: They've either and laid off or quit and move like
Speaker 1: went to another years stock. Yeah, not the best, and
Speaker 1: it's happened. This is like the this will be the
Speaker 1: third president that I've had at my label, so five
Speaker 1: five years, six years almost. Um, that's frustrating. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: a little frustrating. But um, the new presidents, there's gonna
Speaker 1: be two of them that are working together, and they
Speaker 1: start on January one, so after that I'll be able
Speaker 1: to you know, kind of regroup with them and um
Speaker 1: hopefully put something out. The plan originally was like I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put out UM season one and then season two
Speaker 1: is going to come really shortly after. It was really
Speaker 1: really frustrating at first because all I wanted to do
Speaker 1: was put it out. I've had these songs for literally years,
Speaker 1: Like a lot of these songs UM on season two
Speaker 1: are like two years old or more like really really
Speaker 1: crazy when you write songs so many years ago, like
Speaker 1: you grow as a person and you're like I kind
Speaker 1: of want to shut that era out and start something new. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I want to now I'm still writing, and that's
Speaker 1: the that's the problem is I'm still writing, and I'm
Speaker 1: liking everything that I'm writing, And it's like, am I
Speaker 1: going to boot out all these songs that I know
Speaker 1: are really good that I've had for two years because
Speaker 1: I want to show the world these new things that
Speaker 1: are more representative of who I am now? And like
Speaker 1: that's not funny either, because then I have these old
Speaker 1: songs that are really good, and then you're proud of
Speaker 1: and then I'm proud of him. That would be something
Speaker 1: amazing that I just don't want to put out anymore
Speaker 1: because I've moved on from it. It just sucks. It's like,
Speaker 1: just take so long for anything to happen. I wish
Speaker 1: I could just write a song and just put it
Speaker 1: out like it don't make my life so much easier
Speaker 1: and be kind of iconic if he did that. Though
Speaker 1: people don't understand how people only see the finished product.
Speaker 1: They don't understand really everything that goes into it. It's
Speaker 1: it's a lot, and it sucks. Like, let's talk about
Speaker 1: sociopath for a secon You're wearing the hat. So it's
Speaker 1: reminding me you did a full like horror movie that
Speaker 1: which is so sick by the way things I thought out.
Speaker 1: It's not just about like writing a song and putting
Speaker 1: it out. There's whole coordination that happens too. You know,
Speaker 1: have him and come out Jordan Jordan Fisher told me,
Speaker 1: like when he was filming a movie, people just see
Speaker 1: the finished product. People don't see going on set, the
Speaker 1: working that editing and everything that takes to put something out.
Speaker 1: You have to kind of have a plan before you
Speaker 1: do anything with music, like you have to come up
Speaker 1: with a concept, especially with visuals, like with music videos
Speaker 1: and cover art if you're doing singles before the project.
Speaker 1: It all kind of has to be cohesive. There's been
Speaker 1: times I've put stuff out thinking that it's going to
Speaker 1: be one way, and then I'll completely change everything and
Speaker 1: then it's like this is different. So it's hard. It's
Speaker 1: like you have to be like preemptive and I'm not
Speaker 1: like whenever I'll have an idea for something and be
Speaker 1: like this is it is going to be the best
Speaker 1: thing ever, and then we'll wait months for it to
Speaker 1: come out, and by the time that it's like I've switched.
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I don't want to call it that anymore.
Speaker 1: I want to call it this because I have a
Speaker 1: better idea. And it's like, well, you just put this
Speaker 1: stuff out without that concept, and they're going on the projects,
Speaker 1: so like, what are you gonna do? I'm like, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I'll figure it out. How are you doing
Speaker 1: being twenty one and my brother's a You're balancing so
Speaker 1: much a career, just growing up, like all of it.
Speaker 1: How are you balancing all of it? Because I feel
Speaker 1: like it's it's not easy and we need to recognize
Speaker 1: that because having millions of people look at what you
Speaker 1: do all the time is not a normal thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm definitely doing a lot better than I was.
Speaker 1: I had to grow up really fast when I was
Speaker 1: really young. So um like I was sixteen when I
Speaker 1: moved to l A. And as soon as I got here,
Speaker 1: I realized people aren't very nice. Just like in high
Speaker 1: school everyone's mean, but in l A. It's another level.
Speaker 1: There are another breeds out here. Yeah, and I you know,
Speaker 1: I was used to like high school mean girls and
Speaker 1: their guys are mean too, but it's different because people
Speaker 1: are nice to your face. But then or the people
Speaker 1: will go actually out of their way to plot on
Speaker 1: your fucking downfall out here. It's crazy like they will
Speaker 1: they will like plot and scheme like they will make
Speaker 1: up plans to like make you like it's it's it's frightening.
Speaker 1: It's truly frightening. Like they'll say things to you like
Speaker 1: it's like it's it's literal manipulation. It's insane. Um. So
Speaker 1: I hope you cut those people out of your life,
Speaker 1: but it's you can't fully ever cut anyone out here
Speaker 1: because you'll see them out so and I don't want
Speaker 1: to ever have beef with anyone or be fighting with anyone.
Speaker 1: So I always just kind of people that I that
Speaker 1: have done me wrong a lot in the past. I
Speaker 1: just kind of keep them in an arm's length because
Speaker 1: I don't want them. I don't want to be on
Speaker 1: their bad side. I don't want them on like I
Speaker 1: don't want to have bad blood with anyone. But there's
Speaker 1: some people that you just can't have in your life,
Speaker 1: and you can't forgive because they're going to keep doing
Speaker 1: the same thing over and over and over and over again.
Speaker 1: But I've tried to really make it a point to
Speaker 1: not to not have that bad blood with anyone because
Speaker 1: it's just not there's no point. It's just we don't
Speaker 1: need that energy exactly. Um, but I think I've just
Speaker 1: it's just it takes time to just learn how to
Speaker 1: what works best for you in terms of balancing everything
Speaker 1: in your life. And I've been out here for a
Speaker 1: while and I'm just kind of finally getting into the
Speaker 1: groove of things about a house. I have my little
Speaker 1: like pets. Yeah, I have a dog. He's a Toyllion Shepherd.
Speaker 1: That's very cute. I missed my dog the best. But
Speaker 1: I recently started seeing this guy who was fifteen dogs
Speaker 1: fifteen dogs my wife. That's weird. It's really the same
Speaker 1: kind of dog or like he like saves them from
Speaker 1: Like you got a guy who saves poppies in his
Speaker 1: free time. That's good job, Olivia, thank you. I have
Speaker 1: you written any songs yet about this person? One kind
Speaker 1: of Okay, we have to take one more quick break,
Speaker 1: but when we come back, let's talk more about life,
Speaker 1: dating and a lot more. We'll be right back and
Speaker 1: we're back. I'm still trying to figure out like the
Speaker 1: whole dating situation. I hate that dates aren't a thing anymore. Well, actually,
Speaker 1: I've been with this guy. He's been taking me out
Speaker 1: on a bunch dates, which is really sweetly. He'll come
Speaker 1: and pick me up and take me to dinner and stuff,
Speaker 1: the bare minimum we should have. Like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I don't work. I'm telling my friends all these things
Speaker 1: that he's doing, and they're just like, wow, that's so
Speaker 1: cute and so amazing. But I'm like, this is what
Speaker 1: we all should be getting. Yeah, like he's setting the
Speaker 1: standard really high for everyone else, but it's because the
Speaker 1: bar is so flow already right now. So um yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the song that I wrote about him, is about
Speaker 1: how like he's putting all the other guys that I've
Speaker 1: ever talked to to shame because he like actually is
Speaker 1: nice to me. Um, but that like, yeah, it's it's well,
Speaker 1: my problem is that I never I always liked the
Speaker 1: guys that are mean or not mean, but you know,
Speaker 1: kind of asshole guys. There's something like appealing about it.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was talking to my friends, like
Speaker 1: guy in writing me over at like not at like
Speaker 1: five pm. I was like, oh my god, not like
Speaker 1: eleven pm, and they're like that shouldn't be something you
Speaker 1: should be like excited about. It's like a basic thing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, my only advice to you is find
Speaker 1: someone smart because and an aspect, just someone that you
Speaker 1: street smart, academic smart, like they don't have to be
Speaker 1: academic smart, just like someone that when you talk to them,
Speaker 1: you feel like your brain and their brain are on
Speaker 1: the same level. Like whatever I'm if I'm dating someone
Speaker 1: who I don't think is as intellectually capable as I
Speaker 1: am and not and like I'm I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: like a genius. Like I've obviously met people that I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this person's way smart. I need to leave. But you
Speaker 1: want to feel like you're kind of on the same
Speaker 1: level as them because you'll understand life at like a
Speaker 1: similar place. Also, like it's you. You don't have to
Speaker 1: like stop and wait for someone to figure something out,
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's like a banter thing to like
Speaker 1: when you talk to them, you want to be able
Speaker 1: to make sure that they understand your jokes and you
Speaker 1: understand their jokes and things that you say. You don't
Speaker 1: want there to be any miscommunication. That's I think it's
Speaker 1: not even just intelligence, it's just like the way that
Speaker 1: their brain works. But that's the most important thing in
Speaker 1: any relationship that I've realized, because I only ever like
Speaker 1: people when we're able to really talk about important things,
Speaker 1: like I don't care if people are hot anymore, which
Speaker 1: is like sad. Know that that is not sad. It's
Speaker 1: about that's like hot, like looks at a temporar anything, Like,
Speaker 1: let's be honest about that. And also, anyone can be hot.
Speaker 1: It's really not that hard, but it's anyone can be
Speaker 1: like at least mediocreally hot, exactly. Not everyone can have
Speaker 1: a good personality, and not everyone can be smart, and
Speaker 1: not everyone can be funny. Something I've learned about myself
Speaker 1: is that I don't like cleaniness. I like people that
Speaker 1: are independent, independent and are driven and like to do
Speaker 1: their own thing. Yeah, because something I'm realizing is that
Speaker 1: people follow my Instagram, which it's not I'm not verified,
Speaker 1: I don't not have millions and there like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's like you know famous people, and I'm like like no,
Speaker 1: like what that's a red flag. It's also very um
Speaker 1: because like I get what I do is so peculiar
Speaker 1: and I get it's not normal for my age, but
Speaker 1: at the same time, I don't like then that's all
Speaker 1: people want to talk about. Yeah, you have to have
Speaker 1: someone that's and I I deal with that all the
Speaker 1: time of like, that's why it's hard for me to
Speaker 1: date people Like That's why I always date guys that
Speaker 1: are like assholes, because they're they understand in the entertainment industry.
Speaker 1: They understand what I do, so they're not like, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're not like intimidated by the fact that I have
Speaker 1: a really crazy, weird job and I'm on the road
Speaker 1: all the time and I make more money than most
Speaker 1: twenty one year old and like I it's it can
Speaker 1: be kind of emasculating for a lot of guys if
Speaker 1: they don't feel like they're as successful as you, even
Speaker 1: if it's even if you don't see it that way,
Speaker 1: they may see it that way as it just like
Speaker 1: their own personal insecurity thing, because you know, society tells
Speaker 1: us the boss aspect. Society tells us that we're supposed
Speaker 1: to you know that men are supposed to be the
Speaker 1: breadwinners and they're supposed to be like the big strong
Speaker 1: man that has the better career. And it it really
Speaker 1: has like taking a toll on a lot of people.
Speaker 1: Um like a lot of guys mentally because they don't
Speaker 1: think they're good enough if their woman is like strong
Speaker 1: or see, they like it's it's complicated, but it just
Speaker 1: sucks because it makes me feel like I can't date
Speaker 1: guys that don't aren't like in my industry or at
Speaker 1: least as successful as me. But then I don't want
Speaker 1: to measure success in any way, like success is what
Speaker 1: you make it that's not in the industry but understands it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's like the guy that I'm talking to right now,
Speaker 1: he's not he's not in the music industry at all
Speaker 1: or entertainment, and he's like he like works in banking.
Speaker 1: You have finance, bro. But it's been really nice. He
Speaker 1: has the same job as my dad actually, which is like,
Speaker 1: like he's a c f A, which is weird. And uh,
Speaker 1: they're the same exact tight and they're both the youngest
Speaker 1: of they both have four older siblings. They're the youngest
Speaker 1: in their family. That's weird, and there's like a bunch
Speaker 1: of weird things. Yeah, it's like, but I don't it's
Speaker 1: it's very strange feeling with that. Um. But yeah, it's
Speaker 1: been nice to like because he gets it and he's
Speaker 1: friends with a lot of people that I know, and
Speaker 1: he's been around like he gets it, but he's not
Speaker 1: in it and he doesn't I don't know, it's just
Speaker 1: knows it from a distance but doesn't like especially someone
Speaker 1: that doesn't want to be in it. I'm like so
Speaker 1: over the whole just it's complicated and I haven't even started.
Speaker 1: I started. Yeah, it's complicated, and you're going to face
Speaker 1: that a lot as just like a strong independent woman
Speaker 1: that you know has career driven, like you're gonna you're
Speaker 1: gonna face a lot of and secure boys that are
Speaker 1: gonna Yeah, so you just have to learn what to
Speaker 1: what to spot. It's okay, I'll just listen to your
Speaker 1: songs and I just perfect. I'm still figuring it out myself.
Speaker 1: So we'll see, why, aren't we all? Isn't that the
Speaker 1: journey were never ending? It really is. Do you have
Speaker 1: any hobbies you like to do in your free time? Right?
Speaker 1: Besides that, I went through a phase where I made
Speaker 1: friendship bracelets. I used to be obsessed with making friendship bracelets.
Speaker 1: It's kind of therapeutic to just like check out and
Speaker 1: just tie a bunch of knots. Yeah, I don't have
Speaker 1: to use my brain because especially as someone who has
Speaker 1: O c D, like like a focusing on something. But
Speaker 1: then that's the other problem is I also a d
Speaker 1: h D. So I can't like I get overthink like
Speaker 1: I'm not. Sometimes it's hard for me to take a
Speaker 1: moment to actually once I start. If I sit down
Speaker 1: and I do something hard, I can't get starting. It's
Speaker 1: I just can't bring myself working out. Yeah, oh god.
Speaker 1: But sometime once I start working out, I'll work out
Speaker 1: and it'll I'll love it, and I'll go like for
Speaker 1: a couple of like a couple of weeks, I'll like
Speaker 1: work a couple of days a week and I'll go
Speaker 1: with my friends. And then if I stop, I'm never
Speaker 1: going back. But that's the other thing with like I'm
Speaker 1: also I think my CD makes me more of a perfectionist.
Speaker 1: So I have this trouble of like I don't want
Speaker 1: to do anything unless and really good. You know. So
Speaker 1: something that I really enjoyed. I started listening to Bob
Speaker 1: Rass videos to go to sleep, and I said, you
Speaker 1: know what, I went to Bob Ross Incorporated dot com.
Speaker 1: This is not an AD, but I got his painting
Speaker 1: kit and I watched his YouTube videos and I am
Speaker 1: obsessed with me Boba's painting. I learned how to use
Speaker 1: oil paint, and it's such a good distraction for my mind.
Speaker 1: So yeah, little things like little crafts and things like
Speaker 1: that are so Yeah. Sewing is fun. I used to
Speaker 1: work my first quote unquote job. I was unpaid in
Speaker 1: turn when I was like eight years old, and my
Speaker 1: ripped seems in a dress shop in Noa. Honestly, what's
Speaker 1: kind of. When I was ten, I created a business
Speaker 1: called Sammy J Designs where I made bags and sold
Speaker 1: them fun. I think you're just You're just a businesswoman,
Speaker 1: just an ultimate girl boss. It's hard to find people
Speaker 1: also that just like are driven as well, so it's
Speaker 1: nice to like especially talk to like minded people where
Speaker 1: it's all about working and just doing what you love. Yeah, Olivia,
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on my podcast. I really enjoyed
Speaker 1: talking with you. Thanks for having me big sister vibes.
Speaker 1: Oh god, don't even feel old. No, you're you're my
Speaker 1: brother's age, your older brother's age. So care for our
Speaker 1: older sister. Okay, I'll take it. Only a couple of years,
Speaker 1: only only two years, Like, It's well, I do turned
Speaker 1: twenty two in a month, so oh my god, have
Speaker 1: your really birthday. Thank you. We need to look out
Speaker 1: for each other, especially just as girls in general. Like
Speaker 1: it's scary out there, really is. Thank you so much,
Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you guys so much for listening to
Speaker 1: this week's episode of Last Week World Podcast Olivia. Again,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on. I hope you
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Subscribe to the podcast if you haven't already,
Speaker 1: follow Olivia O'Brien on all of her socials, and I'd
Speaker 1: lovely if you followed me my Instagram's It's Sammy J.
Speaker 1: That's I T S S A M M Y j
Speaker 1: A y E. And I will see you guys next
Speaker 1: week with another episode. Bye.