Speaker 1: Hello, friends, It's Devin Simone. Yes, and once again I'm
Speaker 1: Davon Rogers and this is MTV's official Challenge podcast. Davon,
Speaker 1: wake up?
Speaker 2: Where's the energy? Why do I feel like you're asleep
Speaker 2: right now? I might be, but and you're wearing orange?
Speaker 1: Are you inspired by this season that was happening?
Speaker 3: Because you know, I say every season, but yet again,
Speaker 3: I was supposed to be on this season, so.
Speaker 1: You really do every season? Every season? Oh, I am inspired.
Speaker 1: I'm there in spirit, you're there in the orange.
Speaker 2: And by the way, can I just say the amount
Speaker 2: of dms I have gotten from you all know that
Speaker 2: I can't respond them all, but I do see them all,
Speaker 2: and I appreciate you so much. People have very strong
Speaker 2: opinions about the orange. Some people are living for it.
Speaker 2: Some people literally have just sent me emojis of no orange.
Speaker 2: You guys have very strong opinions.
Speaker 1: And I am here for it and love it.
Speaker 2: Welcome to MTV's official Challenge podcast. We are excited to
Speaker 2: be back with you this week. Now, let's do a
Speaker 2: quick recap of what we saw this time. We had
Speaker 2: the challenge called under Control, where they were swimming for
Speaker 2: puzzle pieces Go deep deep down into the water, pull
Speaker 2: out their piece, put it on another puzzle, take all
Speaker 2: those puzzles, attacked it to a different puzzle, and then
Speaker 2: jump up and down on a platform and they manage
Speaker 2: to get it done and.
Speaker 1: Add fifty thousand dollars to the prize. Woo hoo.
Speaker 2: Amazing. So proud of them all. So then everybody's up
Speaker 2: for a possible elimination. TJ basically says, look, there's too
Speaker 2: many dudes here, so it's gonna be a guy's week.
Speaker 1: So the house.
Speaker 2: Votes in Hue Huey then selects Kylin for a strategy game,
Speaker 2: and the elimination was called how I Roll. Now, as
Speaker 2: you probably guess, the winner was Kylin, but it was
Speaker 2: a very very close call. Unfortunately, we have to say
Speaker 2: goodbye to Hue and TJ alludes to the fact that chaos.
Speaker 1: Is well on its way day. How did you feel
Speaker 1: about this week's.
Speaker 2: Episode Our girl, Big Tea, Oh my god, coming out
Speaker 2: party was so brave and so amazing.
Speaker 1: I'm I hope to you have to pay them, hopefully
Speaker 1: I won't. So proud of Big Tea. We love it
Speaker 1: so much, and I'm proud of the house and how
Speaker 1: they rallied. Yeah, that was beautiful and supportive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was to have that type of support, especially
Speaker 3: in an environment where it's dog eat dog, you know,
Speaker 3: dog eat dog environment.
Speaker 1: And they were committed to the support too.
Speaker 2: I mean we saw was it Manuel in those heels
Speaker 2: like okay, bro all.
Speaker 1: Right, like you know, get it in James in that dress.
Speaker 1: He looked good.
Speaker 2: So proud to see that level of support. It was
Speaker 2: uh may zing. This episode brought. There was a lot
Speaker 2: going on. I mean, it ultimately was a lot. We
Speaker 2: loved seeing them rally around Big Tea. Also, I didn't
Speaker 2: realize until recently. I don't know if you knew this,
Speaker 2: but that s'mores is an American thing. We see them
Speaker 2: freaking out over it about it in the house. Oh
Speaker 2: they have that little party making smores. I didn't know
Speaker 2: smores was an American thing until recently. And we had
Speaker 2: them at our wedding because all of our friends and
Speaker 2: family from Australia got to try them for the first
Speaker 2: time and they too freaking out about s'moor. So if
Speaker 2: you go abroad, bring a Smores kid in your bag
Speaker 2: and get what is it? Yeah, the marshmallows or what
Speaker 2: I get? Just I mean smortes taste amazing. So it's
Speaker 2: just the toasted marshmallow and the chocolate and I don't know,
Speaker 2: but they seem.
Speaker 1: To love it in the Challenge house, and I know
Speaker 1: my in laws loved it to so that was great.
Speaker 2: You see Callum lying some more, you know about being single,
Speaker 2: poor Michelle, Michelle saying he ticks every box girl, but
Speaker 2: he also ticks the box of inner relationship. And I
Speaker 2: know she doesn't know. I know she doesn't know, and
Speaker 2: it's just so hard to watch. Yeah, absolutely flag to watch.
Speaker 1: The flag is red, absolutely red.
Speaker 2: Who would you say get gets your time out of
Speaker 2: the week this week?
Speaker 1: My time out this week.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to give it to Corey. I just
Speaker 3: can't because it's given hipocrite. It's given very big hypocrite
Speaker 3: because Baby Baby put up a fuss and a cuss
Speaker 3: about the girls coming together with their idea of doing
Speaker 3: these burn votes. But who was to charge this episode?
Speaker 3: Who was rallying up the troops this episode? Come on,
Speaker 3: I need we need to have a conversation. Shit, Corey
Speaker 3: called me a couple.
Speaker 1: Questions, and then who gets your gold star? I'm giving
Speaker 1: it to Big T. I'm gonna give it to Big T.
Speaker 3: I gotta give it to her, because baby, again, to
Speaker 3: be on such a large place. You are on national television,
Speaker 3: lots of people watch the challenge, right, You're on national television.
Speaker 3: So to come out and tell your truth and live
Speaker 3: your truth and walk in your truth unapologetically, it's an
Speaker 3: amazing thing. Your friends and family are gonna watch, you know,
Speaker 3: and I just I'm proud of her, and I want
Speaker 3: you to know as much support as you have inside
Speaker 3: of that house, you also have it on this podcast.
Speaker 1: We love you girl.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, and that is why Davon is wearing orange. I'd
Speaker 2: have to say for the timeouts this week, there are
Speaker 2: three contenders, all right. The first one is going to
Speaker 2: be Corey, as you said, because Corey. This is now
Speaker 2: episode four, and I feel like every week Corey is
Speaker 2: in some mess.
Speaker 1: Now, I hung out.
Speaker 2: With Corey and we had a great time. Corey is
Speaker 2: fun and like cool. I don't know what is happening
Speaker 2: with him. Look, his haircut is clean, but his strategy
Speaker 2: is messy this season, so we don't need.
Speaker 1: To figure it out.
Speaker 2: And it sounds like we've heard hints that it possibly
Speaker 2: gets worse. So he's up nominee for time out. Then Mariah,
Speaker 2: because Mariah, girl, you're look. The fact that you are
Speaker 2: crying tells me that you know in your heart you're
Speaker 2: not handling this well. If you have feelings for James cool.
Speaker 2: I mean, yep, okay, I'm just gonna say that. If
Speaker 2: you have feelings for James cool, but how you handle it?
Speaker 2: You just want to be considerate of other people the
Speaker 2: same way people should be considerate of you. And I
Speaker 2: think she knows that deep down. I think she's a
Speaker 2: good person. I think that's why she feels guilty. So
Speaker 2: she's a nominee. And then Thereese's trash advice. All right,
Speaker 2: look just look from a matchmaker from I don't know,
Speaker 2: like that is just trash advice. Yes, it's great if
Speaker 2: your friend is thriving with this new person. Yes it's
Speaker 2: great to follow your instincts. But you still want to
Speaker 2: be considerate of other people. So all three of them
Speaker 2: are nominated for my timeout, and the timeout goes to
Speaker 2: you guessed it. Thereese's trash advice that it's a trash take,
Speaker 2: throw it away. Don't ever listen to that if you're
Speaker 2: of the person you are kind of seeing or situationship
Speaker 2: isn't working for you. That is cool, But then say
Speaker 2: goodbye to that and then go to the next thing.
Speaker 2: Be an adult about it. That rule applies to anyone
Speaker 2: over the age of eight, all right, and then lower
Speaker 2: of the gold Star gold Star two nominees there, all right,
Speaker 2: the whole House for the way that they rallied behind
Speaker 2: Big T. It was just so beautiful to see. Ye, yes,
Speaker 2: that is what the show is about. I love it
Speaker 2: so much. And then also Ed, Ed we have described
Speaker 2: him as a golden retriever before, or like a labrador.
Speaker 2: He is just this bundle of energy and so fun
Speaker 2: and I love him. And so since the whole House
Speaker 2: got the gold Star or Big T got the gold
Speaker 2: Star for her party from you, I'm going to give
Speaker 2: my gold star to Ed. I love that he went
Speaker 2: back in there and got multiple puzzle pieces.
Speaker 1: Also, he said that he.
Speaker 2: Was built like a gorilla. I was just in Uganda
Speaker 2: for my honeymoon looking at gorilla as they were not
Speaker 2: built like that Ed's legs and arms. Okay, Ed, we
Speaker 2: see you, sir, like yes, Lifeguard Ed and the Baywatch
Speaker 2: and the slow motion here for it. We love you
Speaker 2: Ed so much. You get the gold Star. An excellent episode. Again,
Speaker 2: a lot going on, and you guys, the guest that
Speaker 2: we have this week is giving us so much tea.
Speaker 2: If you're wondering why this episode is so long, that
Speaker 2: is why tea up, tea up on tea.
Speaker 1: You know it's tea. When even Davon gets quiet, you'll
Speaker 1: see what I mean in here. Go ahead, get your drinks.
Speaker 3: You sold us whatever it is you need, and come
Speaker 3: right back because when you get back, we will have
Speaker 3: v what can I call him?
Speaker 1: Uncomparable?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, comparable. Yeah. Huie is coming to hang out with
Speaker 1: us on the podcast and his clap us Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2: Dragging that wagons to stay right here because you're not
Speaker 2: gonna want to miss it. Ladies and gentle friends, we
Speaker 2: have a very very special guest for you today. His
Speaker 2: accent is impeccable, so is his personality. His swimming skills
Speaker 2: are actually pretty good too, as we saw in this
Speaker 2: week's episode.
Speaker 1: Please give it up for the King of Ireland. Huie Hi,
Speaker 1: Hueie hi.
Speaker 4: Everyone.
Speaker 1: Hello, We're so happy to have you here.
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 2: Can I just say we try not to make favorites
Speaker 2: in his household, but My husband has said before that
Speaker 2: you are his favorite. He thinks you are hilarious and
Speaker 2: so fun to watch. So yeah, it's talking something right.
Speaker 5: Oh thank you, And you know what, can I actually
Speaker 5: be like one hundred percent honest? That is my main
Speaker 5: objective with you and the Challenges because I have done
Speaker 5: a lot of reality shows on different networks in Ireland
Speaker 5: and the UK, so I say myself was like a
Speaker 5: reality TV person more so than maybe somebody that has
Speaker 5: innately like I didn't grow up watching the Challenge, nor
Speaker 5: did I like dream of being on it. I wouldn't
Speaker 5: have been something I would have necessarily put myself with.
Speaker 5: So my kind of like thoughts on it is like, oh,
Speaker 5: that could be fun, that could be interesting, and if
Speaker 5: I can bring a bit of humor of fun to
Speaker 5: the table, but then that's mostly what I would want
Speaker 5: to do.
Speaker 4: So that's a job well done. When someone tells me.
Speaker 3: That you definitely do your personality is very contagious extreme
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 2: It is very very contigious, and I love by the
Speaker 2: way that you're just like chilling on the bed. So
Speaker 2: for viewers or listeners, we have our cameras on oftentimes
Speaker 2: with our guests, so we get to see them langing.
Speaker 2: I wish that you guys could see too, but it's
Speaker 2: like you're just like, we're just in your house chilling.
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, this is what I'm like.
Speaker 5: I'm the same person, you know, like in person. Like
Speaker 5: I can't say the same for everyone else from the
Speaker 5: challenge on or the shows I've been on, but I'm
Speaker 5: the same person. So like, I'm very I don't know,
Speaker 5: I just I don't know how to just not be me.
Speaker 1: We love that.
Speaker 2: It seems like everyone in the beginning of this week's episode, Hue,
Speaker 2: it seems like everyone is anxiously awaiting this chaos that
Speaker 2: TJ keeps hinting at. Were you excited or looking forward
Speaker 2: towards the chaos or were you happy just being in
Speaker 2: this control portion of the game.
Speaker 5: No, I wasn't happy in control portion really at all
Speaker 5: by the fourth challenge, And that's quite evident in this
Speaker 5: episode because obviously they can only show so much on TV.
Speaker 5: But if you look at the scenarios when the guys
Speaker 5: was like, oh, here, we speaking too much. It's annoying
Speaker 5: and whatever. That's because for the first three challenges and
Speaker 5: then now onto the fourth, I felt like I wasn't
Speaker 5: really getting a saying anything. And then you know, you
Speaker 5: can't really tell somebody what to do all the time
Speaker 5: and not trust their own opinion on theirselves and then
Speaker 5: judge how they do in a challenge, do you know
Speaker 5: what I mean? So for this one, which was our
Speaker 5: second Water Challenge, because I love being a water I'm
Speaker 5: actually trained as a lifeguard and all of that, and
Speaker 5: I'm so comfortable and that I for the first Water
Speaker 5: Challenge when we had to make a human ladder and
Speaker 5: I was like, I would love to swim out and
Speaker 5: collect the balls, and then Jay and Kiran and all
Speaker 5: these guys like, no, we want other people to do it.
Speaker 5: And then afterwards I was like, you took one of
Speaker 5: my biggest strengths away where I could have shown, where
Speaker 5: I could have proven in a challenge where my work is.
Speaker 5: And now this was the second Water Challenge and I
Speaker 5: wasn't going to allow that to happen again. So I
Speaker 5: was sick and tired of this whole control part, because
Speaker 5: even though I'm not really somebody that would necessarily innately
Speaker 5: love sports, I wanted to compete as an individual or
Speaker 5: in pairs or in teams or whatever instead of this big,
Speaker 5: huge group thing where people were hiding and playing side
Speaker 5: at times from not actually performing very well, which hasn't
Speaker 5: been come off on the episodes because as I said,
Speaker 5: they can only show so much.
Speaker 4: I e.
Speaker 5: Callum. So Callum for example, definitely didn't do as well
Speaker 5: in the challenges as you were probably imagined by looking
Speaker 5: at him, because he's a guy that goes to the
Speaker 5: gym a lot. Like in this week's episode when it's
Speaker 5: showing as selfish and let Horassio do it, I was
Speaker 5: just trying to put my own puzzle piece of yeah,
Speaker 5: and I was I was more than capable of bloody
Speaker 5: put my own puzzle piece of like Jesus Christ. Like
Speaker 5: I didn't need Horasio to do it for me. I
Speaker 5: was happy to do that. So like when it's it's
Speaker 5: difficult obviously for viewers to maybe notice certain things. But
Speaker 5: like as I said, Callum got his piece after I did.
Speaker 5: He got over there after I did. A lot of
Speaker 5: the girls hugely struggled in that challenge. And I don't
Speaker 5: think it mattered whether you're a guy or a girl
Speaker 5: in terms of strength or size. I think anyone could
Speaker 5: win a swimming challenge and to be really honest and
Speaker 5: so was there.
Speaker 2: A lot of endurance involved, because it didn't look like
Speaker 2: it that it did right endurance.
Speaker 5: So before we started the challenge, I think one of
Speaker 5: the girls pointed this out in the episode, we didn't
Speaker 5: realize how far we'd have to swim.
Speaker 4: It was really far. We thought it was maybe half this.
Speaker 5: Distance, so it was quite difficult, like we're to swim,
Speaker 5: and but we were still fine. I mean, the people
Speaker 5: who struggled to get down there, and I definitely didn't
Speaker 5: judge them at all in that respect. So I was
Speaker 5: proud of everyone because it was far down. It wasn't
Speaker 5: even maybe people's fitness. So people get anxious, you know,
Speaker 5: you have to get down fifteen feet or whatever it
Speaker 5: was five or six meters.
Speaker 1: How deep was it?
Speaker 5: I think it was one fifteen feet and one twenty
Speaker 5: feet something like that. One was short and I can't remember,
Speaker 5: but that's quite fair. You go down in Murky Warring,
Speaker 5: you've just swam, you're on a time limit. Your people
Speaker 5: get anxious to have all these people watching them at
Speaker 5: all times. And so I understand that with people within
Speaker 5: the challenge, but you.
Speaker 4: Know, not everyone and pathetic are understandings that clear.
Speaker 2: But it seems like some of the people with the
Speaker 2: biggest mouths were the ones who were struggling in some
Speaker 2: parts of it.
Speaker 5: We definitely, definitely So this is what I meant by
Speaker 5: people hiding the playing sight. So a lot of people
Speaker 5: is very happy to look really busy within challenges, but
Speaker 5: it doesn't really mean doing anything, do you know what
Speaker 5: I mean?
Speaker 2: Who are some other people that you would name? So
Speaker 2: you told about Klum and Asa, who else do you
Speaker 2: feel on the girl's side were hide in plain sight
Speaker 2: or look busy and challenging.
Speaker 5: But Nouris is one of those people. But I really
Speaker 5: do like Lurice, but thereis is a good competitor. It's
Speaker 5: more Nouris kind of I think Narisa is a really
Speaker 5: strong social game. But do you know one thing I'll
Speaker 5: really give to Narisa's She's got a lot of fire.
Speaker 5: Narissa speak up and speak her mind a lot. And
Speaker 5: this is someone who I would see like Adamlines. But
Speaker 5: if I were to look at Nourice like versus someone
Speaker 5: like Olivia, she wouldn't be anywhere near the same time
Speaker 5: as competitor Michelle. Also, Michelle is really smart and again
Speaker 5: someone I love in the house, But Michelle wouldn't be
Speaker 5: the strongest of competitors and a lot of the challenges.
Speaker 5: But what Michelle has got to do and is again
Speaker 5: and I don't mean it like in a way like
Speaker 5: she's not doing anything. She's definitely involved in doing her piece,
Speaker 5: but Michelle likes to kind of take a times leadership roles.
Speaker 5: And I wonder to myself, like is she doing that
Speaker 5: to kind of keep heat off herself if you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, you know, getting pieces together.
Speaker 2: And change strategic so it looks like she's adding value. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can see that as a part of Michelle's as
Speaker 2: a part of Michelle's game. Yeah, I feel like Maurice
Speaker 2: talks a lot of game for not backing it up
Speaker 2: so much, and I feel like like sets the standard
Speaker 2: for other people in the house. Like I feel like
Speaker 2: we're starting to see that more and more in episodes,
Speaker 2: like even just how hard she came for Raven, Like
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just feel like we see a
Speaker 2: lot of that building, but we haven't seen a lot
Speaker 2: of it being backed up. Whereas like we know that
Speaker 2: Olibya is a crazy tough competitor, right sure, Well you know.
Speaker 5: What I will say about the whole thing is because again,
Speaker 5: like you guys just see episodes, right. I was very
Speaker 5: much part of telling others what Raven was doing, kind
Speaker 5: of playing both sides and carrying stories each side. And
Speaker 5: I'll tell you why I'd done that is because first
Speaker 5: of all, I knew she was obviously fighting hard for Chauncey,
Speaker 5: which I'm not salty about, yeah, because Chancey is her friend.
Speaker 5: She didn't know me, she doesn't need to have loyalty
Speaker 5: for me. But when it then came around, because Chauncey
Speaker 5: would have been says second elimination, so that was the
Speaker 5: first guys. Then he went on to the third elimination,
Speaker 5: which was the girls, which was Raven and Hui. So
Speaker 5: why I really went around and told people like about
Speaker 5: Raven talking behind their backs to saying her she wants
Speaker 5: out and playing both sides, going from the American guys
Speaker 5: over to the UK guys and telling them everything was
Speaker 5: she was speaking about wanting to put Big Tea in
Speaker 5: and all of these people that like I was close to.
Speaker 5: So I was protecting my girls, And this is why
Speaker 5: I went and told them this.
Speaker 4: So I can still understand why.
Speaker 5: Nourice is getting so irritated because Lurice one of her
Speaker 5: strongest parts in it is being a social player and
Speaker 5: sticking to her alliance.
Speaker 4: And I don't blame these people.
Speaker 5: I've been active on Twitter recently saying the staff, you know,
Speaker 5: the American guys forming an alliance and sticking together and
Speaker 5: standing by it is you know, anyone with a brain
Speaker 5: cell can do that.
Speaker 4: You don't have to relate to everyone.
Speaker 5: But like I was happy to do this with the
Speaker 5: UK people and with to Turney seven people, like from
Speaker 5: my debut season, because it's.
Speaker 4: It's a numbers game.
Speaker 5: So what a night in NISA is you know, Raven
Speaker 5: stick by us and we will scratch your back when
Speaker 5: not asking you to scratch our back without repaying it
Speaker 5: just means.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, And you felt like she knew what
Speaker 1: she was doing.
Speaker 2: You felt like Raven knew that she was going against
Speaker 2: the alliance versus because I feel like, as a viewer,
Speaker 2: I'm split because a part of it sort of came
Speaker 2: across like she didn't really realize the impact, like she
Speaker 2: just was kind of like she just wasn't smart in
Speaker 2: the social game that that.
Speaker 1: She was trying to be like messy.
Speaker 2: But do you feel having been in the house that
Speaker 2: Raven going against her alliance in those previous episodes. Was
Speaker 2: her intentionally trying to be messy or do you think
Speaker 2: she didn't know?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: So I'm not saying she was being messy because maybe
Speaker 5: she was trying to create reality TV drama or anything.
Speaker 5: That's not what I'm going to say. But what I
Speaker 5: will say is, and she kind of admitted this in
Speaker 5: part of the episode. Do you remember where she said
Speaker 5: in her interview something about Kiaren it could be good
Speaker 5: for her game or whatever.
Speaker 4: Yea.
Speaker 5: So she said this in the house before she went
Speaker 5: in with Hui, And I brought this to Kieren and
Speaker 5: told him because I was trying to trying to get
Speaker 5: a lot of people to vote Raven in instead of
Speaker 5: Big Tea or Melissa or whatever or Bernard that was
Speaker 5: coming up again in the second like Girls elimination. I
Speaker 5: told Kieren that Raven had said and she openly said this,
Speaker 5: and she basically proved it in her interview that she
Speaker 5: wants to get close to Kieren so she can have
Speaker 5: maybe the UK people on her side because she feels
Speaker 5: like she's falls to the bottom. She falls to the
Speaker 5: bottom of the barrel. Yea, Yeah, so I get her
Speaker 5: back was against the wall and maybe she was trying
Speaker 5: to do something, but to be honest, from what we
Speaker 5: can see as viewers and even me and there in
Speaker 5: the house, she kind of had that with us guys.
Speaker 5: And although she might feel like I falling to the
Speaker 5: bottom of the barrel, she was weeks off being at
Speaker 5: the bottom of any barrel because there was a lot
Speaker 5: of people that get you.
Speaker 3: Still, right, Sometimes sometimes when you're in it, you just
Speaker 3: can't see it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it might be I don't know, maybe it's
Speaker 5: lack of experience because this is only your second season.
Speaker 5: And also you need to remember too, she doesn't she
Speaker 5: didn't come from TV already, she hasn't done other shows.
Speaker 2: So she's sting her footing of what it yeah like,
Speaker 2: kind of what that can be like? Do you before
Speaker 2: we move into you know, everything else that's going on
Speaker 2: into the house. In this week's challenge, ACEF calls you
Speaker 2: a mosquito. Do you have a response to that?
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I do, because I actually liked it off
Speaker 5: in the house and I was actually very honest with
Speaker 5: this of at times when he has come to me with,
Speaker 5: you know, for me voting in Chancey for example, he
Speaker 5: started coming at me for that and I told him
Speaker 5: straight in his face my reason and I was always
Speaker 5: a very honest person in the house. So for him
Speaker 5: saying that it's just ridiculous and stupid, he could have,
Speaker 5: first of all, said with my face instead of saying
Speaker 5: it in interviews.
Speaker 4: And anyone you know, with a brain.
Speaker 5: And there's any socially conscious within that house could see
Speaker 5: that I was frustrated. There was a fourth you know,
Speaker 5: a challenge where I was like, in fact, it was
Speaker 5: the fifth because we've done the launch night one as well,
Speaker 5: and any type of opinion I had, anything I was
Speaker 5: trying to do, there was other people consistently trying to
Speaker 5: take a leadership role and not let me have my
Speaker 5: own opinion or be part of something. And for the
Speaker 5: first few times that happened, I was trying to, you know,
Speaker 5: let's remain home, let's not argue mid challenge. We're trying
Speaker 5: to do this for the team. But you get on
Speaker 5: and on and on and you're being called weak or
Speaker 5: you're not pulling your way, and then you get to
Speaker 5: the stays where it's like, are you just stopping me
Speaker 5: from showing myself in any way so that you can
Speaker 5: keep calling me this? So I don't understand why ASoft
Speaker 5: wouldn't understand that, especially when me and him had you know,
Speaker 5: a lot of deep conversations in the house, but you know,
Speaker 5: a response to people like ASoft and a lot of
Speaker 5: the people that calls me week in the houses and
Speaker 5: maybe says I shouldn't be on a competition sports show.
Speaker 4: Is my opinion is they.
Speaker 5: Shouldn't be on the reality show because they haven't got
Speaker 5: a personality between them. I mean, if you look at
Speaker 5: the episodes showing so far, I'm probably the top five
Speaker 5: people that gets the most airtime.
Speaker 4: There's a reason for that.
Speaker 1: Oh not you clocking the numbers.
Speaker 2: I agree, though, there needs to be personality and some
Speaker 2: people you know there it's the challenge is great when
Speaker 2: it has a well rounded cast and there needs to
Speaker 2: be a personality. Now, something else that I've seen that
Speaker 2: we've seen grow. So I remember back on Spieslies and
Speaker 2: Chicken Fries with you and Corey and we talked about this.
Speaker 2: I think this is the first time we had you
Speaker 2: on on Aftermath and yeah, Corey kind of like you know,
Speaker 2: when at it, and it seems your relationship has really
Speaker 2: done a one eighty. Yeah, you talked to us about
Speaker 2: how that happened, because we don't see that much of
Speaker 2: it in the season so far, Like we see the outcome,
Speaker 2: but we don't see how you guys until got to
Speaker 2: this place where you're supportive. Where's and for those who
Speaker 2: don't know, go back and watch Bizlies and Chicken Fries,
Speaker 2: Spies and Allies, and then go back and watch that
Speaker 2: aftermath episode. It's on YouTube. But it gets so bad
Speaker 2: I believe Corey starts crying at a point. I mean,
Speaker 2: it gets pretty heated. So talk to us, Hue about
Speaker 2: what happened with you and Corey after that season and
Speaker 2: how you guys became such allies this go round.
Speaker 5: So after the season aired, Corey reached out to me
Speaker 5: and we just had a conversation about it, and look,
Speaker 5: you pushed things aside. When you're in those environments, you
Speaker 5: do really get into a bubble bo.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: What I was really upset about last time was like
Speaker 5: me and Corey kind of struck a deal together, really
Speaker 5: understood one another, and being rookies and the Spices, Eyes
Speaker 5: and Allies was just a nightmare for rookies. How the
Speaker 5: format was going where remember the rookies were always getting yea, yeah,
Speaker 5: it was just a complete nightmare. In fact, both season's
Speaker 5: formats have been a nightmare for me, honestly, without have been.
Speaker 5: But Corey just reached out to me and we've had
Speaker 5: there's many conversations and a lot of understanding, and I
Speaker 5: get it, like his reason, and even Michelle was like,
Speaker 5: you know, like we were just really trying to make
Speaker 5: our way in the game, and we were just constantly
Speaker 5: falling into rookie rookie payers all the time, and we
Speaker 5: were just really trying to find a way of staying
Speaker 5: in the game. And they taught obviously that they would
Speaker 5: definitely send me home and they knew they were going
Speaker 5: in as that rookie rookie pair, so like there's no
Speaker 5: grudges held, Like I knew those people at the time,
Speaker 5: like a month a month before I didn't even know
Speaker 5: they existed, but as like you guys might know, like
Speaker 5: within these types of shows and stuff, a month.
Speaker 4: Can feel like a year.
Speaker 5: So like you're in a bubble and you've no phone,
Speaker 5: you have no escape. It's the most weirdest feeling in
Speaker 5: the world. Until you've done this, you don't know. But
Speaker 5: it's like me and Corey had like lots of support
Speaker 5: and I will include. Also, there's many things about Corey
Speaker 5: that I wouldn't necessarily agree with, Like he might have
Speaker 5: political opinions I don't agree with at times. I know
Speaker 5: he's done things later on in this season to friends
Speaker 5: of mine also that.
Speaker 4: I didn't think it was the right thing to do.
Speaker 5: But you know, as two gay men within the game
Speaker 5: and a boat was really passionate and grew up loving
Speaker 5: reality shows and pop culture, Like I really relate to
Speaker 5: him with that, you know, being on the Challenge, I
Speaker 5: feel so grateful for growing up watching MTV. It's a
Speaker 5: dream come true. And I don't think everyone feels as
Speaker 5: grateful for being there. I think he take a lot
Speaker 5: of themselves and they think that like they just should
Speaker 5: be there, Whereas I feel very grateful for those opportunities
Speaker 5: and Corey does also. So He's someone that I would
Speaker 5: always support, whether I was on the Challenge or not.
Speaker 1: Again, Oh, I love to sowe.
Speaker 3: I want to die support because this episode right here
Speaker 3: was about supporting Big Tea. Oh my gosh, Like I
Speaker 3: just want to dive right into that because her coming
Speaker 3: out party was so amazing.
Speaker 1: First of all, can we give her a round the pause?
Speaker 1: Like I'm so proud of her.
Speaker 3: For speaking and to do it on such a large
Speaker 3: platform like she came out on the show like that
Speaker 3: was huge, huge.
Speaker 1: Please tell us about the party and how proud you are.
Speaker 5: Ever. Oh, I was incredibly proud, and I know she
Speaker 5: was so nervous. She was even you know, she's been
Speaker 5: nervous since for the episode airing. And I'm just so
Speaker 5: happy to see someone find their truth and live their truth,
Speaker 5: like obviously something I can relate to. Yeah, I've It's
Speaker 5: been part of my path in life. And the party
Speaker 5: was fantastic and we had a great night. We were
Speaker 5: there to like three am in the pool, drinking, like
Speaker 5: talking about each other's lives and and I found it
Speaker 5: interesting in the episode and I need to explain something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, tell us. Tell us.
Speaker 4: When we were.
Speaker 5: Doing Spin the Bottle on the launch night, when everybody
Speaker 5: was kissing each other and doing Spin the Bottle, I
Speaker 5: was the one who suggested, like, let's make.
Speaker 4: It more rouge.
Speaker 5: And I would do this every night because I was
Speaker 5: bored all the time. So when we were sat there
Speaker 5: and everybody was like, oh, who doesn't like beer or something,
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh my god, I'm so bored. And also
Speaker 5: at the same time. I'll be honest, I was like,
Speaker 5: we're also making a TV show and we're like, let's
Speaker 5: show our personality about it, like what would you do
Speaker 5: in a real party? It isn't why I was asking,
Speaker 5: like who you're going to vote in? Who's going who
Speaker 5: would cheat on her partner or whatever? And it cuts
Speaker 5: to Callum's face and it all makes sense. Yeah, why
Speaker 5: it all makes sense now why he was dismissing did.
Speaker 1: You not know? Did you not know that he was
Speaker 1: that he was cheating?
Speaker 4: No, didn't know a thing.
Speaker 5: In fact, it's only been like a six seven weeks
Speaker 5: since I randomly messaged Michelle. Now it all makes sense
Speaker 5: that he adds someone in the real world to whatever degree.
Speaker 5: But he was like such a snapping at me when
Speaker 5: I asked his question and just slightly showed in the episode,
Speaker 5: but it was more in person and it makes sense
Speaker 5: to me now. But I was quite drunk, So I.
Speaker 2: So did no one Do you think no one else
Speaker 2: in the house knew as well?
Speaker 5: Or I don't reckon anyone else knew because even if
Speaker 5: it was anyone outside of James or Zarah maybe Daniel,
Speaker 5: I don't know. But if it was anyone else, I
Speaker 5: think Michelle would have found out. I definitely would have
Speaker 5: told Michelle.
Speaker 1: So do you think Michelle didn't know at all? You
Speaker 1: think a good.
Speaker 2: At one point, which respect to Michelle, we do see
Speaker 2: her ask and he kind of like downplays it and
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, not really. But then we also see
Speaker 2: him saying I love you to the girlfriend in the episode.
Speaker 4: So yeah, you know, yeah, Michelle definitely did not know.
Speaker 5: And look, I will preface like my opinion, like, I
Speaker 5: think Callum's a great guy. I know in the episode
Speaker 5: in his interviews, like he's saying all kinds of stuff whatever,
Speaker 5: But I think Calum's a great guy.
Speaker 4: But obviously doing that like it's it's.
Speaker 5: So silly and it's unnecessary and I don't even think
Speaker 5: it's creating the mess that you could even you know,
Speaker 5: positively turn around and say, oh, look, you know what.
Speaker 5: We don't like it in real life, but on The
Speaker 5: Challenger a TV show, we like mess. I don't even
Speaker 5: think it's even that entertaining around It's not like I.
Speaker 1: Don't think he was trying to do it to be entertaining.
Speaker 1: I think definitely back into.
Speaker 2: The wall, oh lot, I think we need to take
Speaker 2: a quick break, but we will be right.
Speaker 1: Back after this. All right, now, let's get back to
Speaker 1: the show. What are your thoughts of Mariah and James situation?
Speaker 5: But see this, this is another thing that I didn't
Speaker 5: fully realize. So when I left this season, Bananas messaged
Speaker 5: me and he was like, oh my god, I.
Speaker 4: Heard her out of the house.
Speaker 2: Uh huh?
Speaker 1: And what do he say?
Speaker 4: And he was like, is Mariah being a good girl?
Speaker 4: And I was drunk.
Speaker 5: This was the night I got home to Ireland, so
Speaker 5: I was like less than forty eight hours out of
Speaker 5: the house.
Speaker 4: And I was like, yeah, what she means? She I
Speaker 4: loves Maria.
Speaker 5: She's so nice. I'm glad I met her. It all
Speaker 5: makes sense that she was seeing Bananas.
Speaker 1: Why didn't you tell her what he meant?
Speaker 2: You didn't know what he meant when he messaged you
Speaker 2: and asked, was she being a good girl?
Speaker 5: No, I thought like he meant what she'd been nice
Speaker 5: to me? She'd been killed with you because he had
Speaker 5: told me it was messaging me before the season. He
Speaker 5: was like, I heard you going in and like, I
Speaker 5: hope all the guys will be good good to your
Speaker 5: hope everything goes well, Like I'll pass a message on
Speaker 5: to some people or whatever, So I thought that's what
Speaker 5: he was following up on, did you care about you?
Speaker 1: He wasn't trying to find out she was being nice
Speaker 1: to you. He was trying to find out when.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize I.
Speaker 1: Was drunk because you were drunk, Did you slip up
Speaker 1: and say anything? Do you recall?
Speaker 4: You think no, because I was like, yeah, she's just
Speaker 4: been like a good girl.
Speaker 5: She's not like doing anything wrong to anyone, because I
Speaker 5: didn't know she was staying bananas because she never told me.
Speaker 2: I wonder if he got the tea because I heard
Speaker 2: on the streets. He definitely found out at some point
Speaker 2: while the show was happening he did. So how did
Speaker 2: he hear or find out about it?
Speaker 5: I honestly haven't got a clue. Maybe somebody here left.
Speaker 5: I don't know, because it's on a lot of seasons
Speaker 5: that he heard. Maybe true, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's so sad.
Speaker 2: I have had conversations with him about this before this happened,
Speaker 2: and I will just.
Speaker 1: Say that it was not as casual as she's.
Speaker 2: Trying to make it seem in her conversations, which I
Speaker 2: think is why she felt so bad, because she knew
Speaker 2: deep down it wasn't as actual as she was trying
Speaker 2: to just fight not taking away her feelings or take
Speaker 2: on it, like if it's something's not right, it's not right.
Speaker 2: I get that, But but I think she felt bad
Speaker 2: because she knew, like, yeah, a year is a long
Speaker 2: time to be investing time with someone, whether it's a situationship,
Speaker 2: whether it's whatever. And I also think the advice she
Speaker 2: was getting from someone in the house was just garb,
Speaker 2: like pick it up, put it in the track about here,
Speaker 2: knock it down a couple times, bring it out, use
Speaker 2: it the compost, put it back in the trash, compact
Speaker 2: or compact it again.
Speaker 1: Sort of way. That's how bad that advice was. But
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, to be fair.
Speaker 4: As much of us, we're going to pint out right.
Speaker 5: That's why I taught watching the episode, right, we're saying
Speaker 5: it's a year of saying or dating and where I
Speaker 5: think it was Alivia or somebody pinted this out right.
Speaker 4: I get that.
Speaker 5: But if it was that strong of feelings, would it
Speaker 5: not have developed more into an actual relationship if you
Speaker 5: were doing this for a year on and off and
Speaker 5: dating and seeing someone, So maybe maybe it was like
Speaker 5: writers Rawman, it's never going to become more than what
Speaker 5: it already is. And this is what I think Nourice
Speaker 5: meant when she said, you were so quick to like
Speaker 5: James as much that you'll do this, but you've been
Speaker 5: like you're in the house for how many weeks for
Speaker 5: Johnny she got to near the end.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's fair, but it's still how you treat people.
Speaker 1: We're all adults now, and it's how you handle it.
Speaker 2: Like her feelings are valid, and even Nourice acknowledging or
Speaker 2: recognizing or feeling like Mariah lights up.
Speaker 1: In a way that maybe she didn't with Bananas.
Speaker 2: That's all fair and all valid, but imagine if the
Speaker 2: roles were reversed.
Speaker 1: If that's really how you feel, then when you get
Speaker 1: that phone call for that week, you hop.
Speaker 2: On that call and say, hey, bro, just got to
Speaker 2: let you know, I'm so sorry, don't want to do this,
Speaker 2: but here's where we are.
Speaker 1: You don't do it.
Speaker 2: I agree in such a messy way, and I think
Speaker 2: that's why she felt bad. I think Mariah has a heart,
Speaker 2: and I think that's why she knew bad about it.
Speaker 2: And I felt like Nourice was sort of saying I
Speaker 2: mean Nourie actually did literally say don't feel bad, Like
Speaker 2: don't It's like no, no, no, no, but no, here's the thing.
Speaker 3: It's to be fair to Nourise. Just like you said
Speaker 3: that she's not letting on the full story. Mariah's not
Speaker 3: letting onto the.
Speaker 1: Full Maybe Nourse doesn't know what the reality is.
Speaker 2: I think knew more because they're in that circle like
Speaker 2: not like maybe not the full degree, but they're in
Speaker 2: that circle in that they keep in touch more certainly.
Speaker 5: But you do know, guys that early in the season,
Speaker 5: because I'm one of these people that asks a lot
Speaker 5: of questions that surprisingly I talk a lot.
Speaker 4: Really, I remember.
Speaker 5: A conversation with Olivia and Mariah because I got quite
Speaker 5: close to them, and I'm sure I asked them if
Speaker 5: they were dating or seeing anyone, or who do you
Speaker 5: used to date? And Olivia was speaking about Nelson, and
Speaker 5: I think Mariah said maybe she had little something with
Speaker 5: Bananas the last season, but she definitely did not tell
Speaker 5: me about the real world.
Speaker 1: Oh like them hanging out in the real world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she never yet, I don't mean the TV show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for a second, I was like, wait, what is
Speaker 1: that to do?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Okay, she definitely didn't tell me about Like, there
Speaker 5: was never me being told, Oh, I've been seeing him
Speaker 5: on and off for a year.
Speaker 2: Which is why you didn't recognize that message she sent you,
Speaker 2: which is why she didn't understand when he.
Speaker 4: I don't think.
Speaker 5: I don't think anybody really, not many maybe knew in
Speaker 5: the horse, because if they did, they would have called
Speaker 5: her out on it and used that as an excuse
Speaker 5: me able to vote her in or something. I'm not
Speaker 5: sure because people look for the most silliest of reasons.
Speaker 5: So if if even the UK Girls or whatever Melissa's
Speaker 5: friends with Bananas that she'd known up, maybe she would
Speaker 5: have called.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of bets knew because this
Speaker 2: is one of the first things I heard when the
Speaker 2: season was done filming.
Speaker 3: So here's the thing with that being said, do you
Speaker 3: remember though she also posted that photo and the captain
Speaker 3: says she was single?
Speaker 1: When was that?
Speaker 2: See Devon be monitoring the internet? Is Mariah had posted
Speaker 2: that Instagram caption picture in the captain said she was single?
Speaker 3: This was like, was this we had to be this
Speaker 3: had to be before this season. This was definitely before
Speaker 3: the season was fair.
Speaker 2: Okay, she the days went through. Okay, interesting, interesting, interesting, she.
Speaker 3: Says she and I personally, I never thought it was
Speaker 3: a serious thing.
Speaker 1: I never thought it was a serious thing.
Speaker 5: I don't know how many people. I think a lot
Speaker 5: of people nowadays need to use it. It's complicated on Facebook,
Speaker 5: right because these people single or not right, Yeah, and
Speaker 5: also they need to do this with friendship, especially with
Speaker 5: the challenge because a lot of people said friends.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of complications.
Speaker 1: Shot you most Huey who said your name.
Speaker 5: The UK guys and oh my god, I got some
Speaker 5: tes because.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: So when Chauncey and James dunder elimination m hm, right
Speaker 5: at the end, Colum turned around and said to me,
Speaker 5: Melissa and a couple of people sund them together. The
Speaker 5: US people are really working together and going to go
Speaker 5: against us. We need to start sticking together. And I
Speaker 5: was like one bro, like in agree because like I
Speaker 5: wanted this alliance from day one. I'd been messaging people
Speaker 5: before the season everything, and then me and James had
Speaker 5: this conversation multiple times. He was like, if you ever
Speaker 5: get sent in, don't say any the UK guys names,
Speaker 5: don't call him down and they won't say your name.
Speaker 5: And me Callum right before we went in, I this
Speaker 5: conversation with Calum and the tenth Melissa was standing there.
Speaker 4: That's just you know, at the back, like behind production whatever.
Speaker 5: And so when I got on the stage and I
Speaker 5: was like wow, this was because I wasn't saying wow
Speaker 5: to Michelle as it looks like it was to Karen
Speaker 5: and Callum because they said.
Speaker 2: My name when because they literally told you they wouldn't
Speaker 2: write for you up down.
Speaker 5: And then right before we went down, do you remember
Speaker 5: when there was like all the discussions but in the
Speaker 5: house before we went down to the arena, and James came.
Speaker 4: And said the same thing to me again.
Speaker 5: And I walked upstairs and Zarah turned around and went, oh,
Speaker 5: as James came and found you, because Zara was part
Speaker 5: of that conversation. Also like to tell you say none
Speaker 5: of the UK guys' names. So and also when Emmanuel
Speaker 5: did because throughout the season I'd been speaking with em Manuel.
Speaker 5: We were first to see each other at the airport.
Speaker 5: We'd spoke on social media before this season that like,
Speaker 5: let's stick together from our first season because we knew
Speaker 5: a lot of the Rider Die people were going to
Speaker 5: do this, which is what they did do in the house.
Speaker 5: So I was so shocked and surprised by that. If
Speaker 5: I'm really really honest that them guys had said my
Speaker 5: name and me choosing Kayland as a partner was decided
Speaker 5: by me, and I spoke with them. With Emmanuel, I
Speaker 5: spoke with James, I spoke with Berna and Michelle, all
Speaker 5: of them, Michelle also, They were all like, Kayland is
Speaker 5: probably like your best choice because you know, socially, you
Speaker 5: don't really have a game together, you're not really connected together,
Speaker 5: you don't really hang out in the house.
Speaker 1: They used you. Do you think they were going to
Speaker 1: use you to take out Yeah?
Speaker 3: They were using you because Kylon is a big competition,
Speaker 3: going to use you to try to take him out
Speaker 3: for them, Yeah, they were using you to take him out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think now that, like I can understand where
Speaker 5: you're coming from, but that definitely that makes sense. But
Speaker 5: for me, I'd never nobody in the house had ever
Speaker 5: done a season with Land, so I didn't know what
Speaker 5: his strengths for and again we never done anything individual
Speaker 5: would Kyland is so great with like strategy and he's.
Speaker 2: I was thinking, when you picked him, hugheye, I was
Speaker 2: yelling silently Hueie, No, do not pick.
Speaker 1: A strategy game that. I mean, last thing I would ever.
Speaker 5: Do, I know, I ever chose one of the big
Speaker 5: guys or something like that.
Speaker 4: I don't know the big Oaks.
Speaker 1: Actually I didn't want to say it. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to ja he would Yeah, he would have guessed.
Speaker 5: But then I I wish now and have not had
Speaker 5: feelings when but I wish now I chose Callum because
Speaker 5: Calum had no Calum hadn't one you the UK Challenge
Speaker 5: which only last for like two weeks altogether film and
Speaker 5: he never went into elimination. So like, I kind of
Speaker 5: wish maybe I chose Callum because I think I probably
Speaker 5: could have beat him in this.
Speaker 1: She's trying to send him back home to his girlfriend.
Speaker 4: I could have saved Michelle the heartache.
Speaker 1: You could have saved heartache.
Speaker 2: I actually feel better now knowing that Michelle really doesn't know.
Speaker 2: I feel terrible for Michelle. Were in that, Like that
Speaker 2: is so cool.
Speaker 1: She had a very reaction.
Speaker 5: When you look at when you guys see like this
Speaker 5: episode of what has going on?
Speaker 4: Like do you like when you look at people?
Speaker 5: Like because the way I look at it is if
Speaker 5: I was to ever be on a future season again, Like,
Speaker 5: do you think that I can even trust study these
Speaker 5: people that I thought I was like actually friends with
Speaker 5: in the house, because.
Speaker 1: Boy, now you look at all the guys you can
Speaker 1: only trust you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, period, If.
Speaker 5: I look at that, like, I think a lot of
Speaker 5: the UK people and people from my own season who
Speaker 5: used the excuse to train, like everybody's already saying your name,
Speaker 5: which I get, keep heat.
Speaker 4: Off or whatever.
Speaker 5: But before we went down there, they could have brought
Speaker 5: me together and we could have tried to come up
Speaker 5: with a plan.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, speaking of which before I forget because
Speaker 2: this was interesting. So we had Berna on last week,
Speaker 2: and honestly, that conversation opened up so much about her,
Speaker 2: like I really adore So she said that she I
Speaker 2: was shocked when she said your name at the end.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Initially, I was like, I can't believe it, especially because
Speaker 2: she's like, I adore hue such a good friend. My
Speaker 2: vote is for Hueie. But then she explains that you
Speaker 2: had said to her. She leges that you had said
Speaker 2: to her, Hey, if the train is moving and everyone's
Speaker 2: voting me, don't show your cards and just say my name.
Speaker 1: Is it true? Did you guys have that conversation and
Speaker 1: how did that come about?
Speaker 5: This was minutes before we all walked down, and I
Speaker 5: give credit to Michelle. Michelle come up to me as well,
Speaker 5: and I turned around and said, look, obviously this is
Speaker 5: much I wanted to be happening, but it feels like
Speaker 5: I don't even know how I can turn this around.
Speaker 5: Nobody's talking to me, nobody's pulling me to a side,
Speaker 5: and I was I was actually respectful that these two
Speaker 5: girls had come to me and said, look, I feel
Speaker 5: like a lot of the house is say in your
Speaker 5: name here. I don't even know what he was supposed
Speaker 5: to do right now. And I was like, listen, girls,
Speaker 5: I don't want you to say my name. Maybe try
Speaker 5: to burn or something if you have the opportunity, I
Speaker 5: don't know, but if you're like at the end, which
Speaker 5: those two kind of were nearby, and it's already like
Speaker 5: I'm way ahead as not.
Speaker 1: To decide, yeah, well look, just.
Speaker 5: Don't be showing your cards to anyone, because I did
Speaker 5: care about them and their game, because both of them
Speaker 5: did really try to protect me.
Speaker 4: They did really try to help.
Speaker 5: Me with the the first guy's elimination, and even Michelle's conversations,
Speaker 5: saying stuff like if you remember in an episode two
Speaker 5: about Chauncey and when she turned around and said, Hughie,
Speaker 5: has ever been disliled to me? Chancey has, Like Michelle
Speaker 5: came to me right out of that was like, Hughie,
Speaker 5: I've been speaking about all of these things because like,
Speaker 5: I really want to keep the heat off you, and
Speaker 5: I'm try trying to get people the best I can
Speaker 5: to vote Chauncey in, which was hard with the whole
Speaker 5: American Alliance. So I'm very thankful for those girls. I'm like,
Speaker 5: even like Big t I know she didn't we didn't
Speaker 5: vote together, but I know I can really trust Big
Speaker 5: Tea because Big Team was very blind in this episode
Speaker 5: because a lot of people wouldn't have the conversations about
Speaker 5: a dis elimination of front of Big Team because you
Speaker 5: knew she would tell me back. So Big Team wasn't
Speaker 5: really told anything by anyone.
Speaker 1: And that's a good friendship.
Speaker 2: Like, by the way, I applaud you so much for
Speaker 2: that because I feel like that's what friends do. And
Speaker 2: hearing that Michelle came up to you and wanted to
Speaker 2: make sure it was okay, I feel like people always
Speaker 2: try to use this show as a scapegoat around like, oh,
Speaker 2: sometimes you have to vote friends in and they like
Speaker 2: blindside friends. I do think that there's a way to
Speaker 2: do it and not blindside them. But but you have
Speaker 2: to make tough choices, and there's a way to respectfully
Speaker 2: do it. And I think for you, Hughey, you know
Speaker 2: how you just asked us, do you think if you
Speaker 2: know I come back in the game, which we hope
Speaker 2: very much that you come back to the game, that
Speaker 2: you ask whether or not you can trust these people.
Speaker 1: I will say this.
Speaker 2: Just in my limited time on the challenge, I feel
Speaker 2: like if you can stand on the fact that you
Speaker 2: are always true to your word, that like you always
Speaker 2: give people heads up when you're gonna vote, and you
Speaker 2: always are true to your word, what will happen is
Speaker 2: that's valuable to people and that becomes an asset.
Speaker 1: So this whole idea of.
Speaker 2: Being weak, what starts to be more of a vulnerability
Speaker 2: are people that are wild cards, right, And so in
Speaker 2: the future, it doesn't mean you won't have snakes and
Speaker 2: stuff coming at you, but I think you'll feel good
Speaker 2: about the way you vote, and more and more people
Speaker 2: will start lining up to protect you, because they will
Speaker 2: feel like at the very end of things that instead
Speaker 2: of them having to look over their shoulder in every
Speaker 2: which direction everyone's telling them something different, they can they'll
Speaker 2: be like at least I know with Huey Like and
Speaker 2: I said this about Chauncey P. Jordan a couple weeks
Speaker 2: ago when we were talking about you know, some people
Speaker 2: were saying, oh, he's you know, you can't trust him
Speaker 2: and that, and I said, I actually feel like if
Speaker 2: you're convincing, I actually feel like you probably could trust
Speaker 2: Chancey and uh.
Speaker 1: And I just I think.
Speaker 2: If you, if you if you build the reputation of
Speaker 2: being someone who like stands on your word and being
Speaker 2: a good friend as you have been with like Berna
Speaker 2: and you know, Michelle, and then I think I think
Speaker 2: you'll be more and more of an act in a way.
Speaker 5: But I know means people were to look at multiple
Speaker 5: seasons they can see this.
Speaker 4: But you know this is I did try. I did.
Speaker 4: I have explained this like when it was in deliberation.
Speaker 5: This is what I was talking about, Like I still
Speaker 5: don't get and I have to really use one reason
Speaker 5: as to why I think the UK guys and I'll
Speaker 5: didn't form the alliance and stand together and the internationals
Speaker 5: where the Americans did.
Speaker 4: And I'll tell you why I think this is.
Speaker 5: The American reality shows are very politically based. If you
Speaker 5: look at American Big Brinner, Survivor, all of this. The
Speaker 5: shows in Europe have a public vote for the winner.
Speaker 5: This is how you win and these shows. So we
Speaker 5: don't come from shows where it's about being naked. Yeah,
Speaker 5: so when they're in this game, they're not seasoned at it,
Speaker 5: if you like, do you know what I mean? The
Speaker 5: Survivor people are so aware and even if you were
Speaker 5: just a viewer and a fan, you're aware of this also.
Speaker 5: So I think because of that, and like I tried
Speaker 5: multiple times, and this is the thing that I don't
Speaker 5: get is even if people taught I was weaker, I
Speaker 5: was like, but.
Speaker 4: Why would you want to keep Parassio around or just
Speaker 4: one around?
Speaker 5: Right? I always protect Island and Olivia before we protect
Speaker 5: James and Zarah and even Big Tea and even even Michelle.
Speaker 5: I personally believe, like, if it's if it's nourice, Olivia, Thailand,
Speaker 5: like these people, like he would protect them before he
Speaker 5: would protect Michelle or Jay. In my personal opinion, So
Speaker 5: I didn't know what our minds was that I found
Speaker 5: it insane. I was like, I'm literally trying to help
Speaker 5: you guys here from being picked off one by one,
Speaker 5: and which you know may or may not happen. You'll
Speaker 5: see like soon later on in the next episodes. But
Speaker 5: I think, what what my idea, My ideology from day
Speaker 5: one made sense.
Speaker 4: But I just think in the UK and.
Speaker 5: In Ireland and some of the European countries, because of
Speaker 5: how our shows the formats are, the public are so
Speaker 5: involved in every part of the game that we're just
Speaker 5: not used to playing at how Americans are.
Speaker 1: That's fair, That's totally fair.
Speaker 4: Do you understand that point?
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I hear you. I think that's totally fair.
Speaker 1: You said.
Speaker 2: We overheard you say at one point, like all this
Speaker 2: stuff is coming from one bedroom.
Speaker 5: Whose bedroom it was the bedroom that was down It
Speaker 5: looked like it was down in a bunker.
Speaker 4: I don't know if this has come across on TV,
Speaker 4: but it was the bedroom where.
Speaker 5: Jay and Corey lay and all slept. Yeah, because this
Speaker 5: is where all the guys consistently went for conversations. And
Speaker 5: if you remember back of the episodes, I was never
Speaker 5: part of them conversations was I. I started to notice
Speaker 5: this in the house a lot. This is where these
Speaker 5: conversations were coming from. And even if you got back
Speaker 5: to episode one, you remember when Big T's name came
Speaker 5: up and then Jessica so called her in. I actually
Speaker 5: was walking past it and I heard people speaking about
Speaker 5: Big Team Melissa and Ed came out. I put this
Speaker 5: on my Twitter and didn't say who it was. Ed
Speaker 5: who had come out and said to me, Oh, it's
Speaker 5: we think that it might be Big Tier. Melissa was like,
Speaker 5: you joking me? And then I went straight and told
Speaker 5: Big Team Melissa about this again. From day one, trying
Speaker 5: to form an alliance that'spe ears for each other. I
Speaker 5: on even met Melissa two days before this, do you
Speaker 5: know what I mean? I was trying to be all ears,
Speaker 5: like the Americans were sat down there all together and
Speaker 5: most of them our men for on and was deciding
Speaker 5: that Big Tier Melissa should be sent in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had your ears to the streets. You have
Speaker 1: to do it, do you.
Speaker 4: Know what I mean?
Speaker 5: So that was the bedroom that was the bitching room,
Speaker 5: but funnily enough, it was full of men, but it
Speaker 5: was a bitchroom.
Speaker 3: So what do you think about all of these speeches
Speaker 3: that occurred during the deliberation about how these guys felt
Speaker 3: about themselves and how.
Speaker 1: They contribute or not to the game.
Speaker 4: How did you come about that? You know what?
Speaker 5: On one side of me, I'm like, do you know what, guys,
Speaker 5: I'm fucking here. I'm like, let's all be brothers, and
Speaker 5: I want to support you on You're all amazing. But
Speaker 5: they're like, fuck you all. You're all literally putting me
Speaker 5: down left, right, and center. And I'm such a man
Speaker 5: about things. If I dislike you, I'll fucking tell you
Speaker 5: I'm not scaring of you. So like, there was a
Speaker 5: lot of dick measuring going on. I mean, if actual
Speaker 5: dicks had come out, I would have been happier, but
Speaker 5: there was a lot of that, Well, I do you
Speaker 5: know what, girls, I'm so over it. By then, I
Speaker 5: was like, oh my god, I can't be bothered to
Speaker 5: say again. And I'm not fucking dislier or scared or whatever.
Speaker 5: Like I'm like, you know what, fuck you all. At
Speaker 5: this stage, I was so over it. I found this
Speaker 5: season so much more difficult for even though I was
Speaker 5: only there for like two weeks or so, three weeks
Speaker 5: filming from like my first season, I was there.
Speaker 4: For eight weeks.
Speaker 5: Filming this season was so much more difficult, And because
Speaker 5: first season had so many incredible veterans of the show,
Speaker 5: a huge you and Ashley Mitchell, Amander, Garfria c t
Speaker 5: all these messy as hell people.
Speaker 4: Josh Josh was crying every five minutes.
Speaker 5: So there's so much too like love that by the
Speaker 5: time we got to this for elimination, I was like,
Speaker 5: you know what, I'm kind of I'm ready to just
Speaker 5: fucking go in. Even even though I sudden say that.
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm ready to go in, and I'm
Speaker 5: like ready to do the best I can inher and
Speaker 5: if I go home, it's not the end of the world,
Speaker 5: but all I can to stay. I was sick and
Speaker 5: tired of sitting down listening to guys talking about how
Speaker 5: strongly you were and whatever.
Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean? Like, let's just let's
Speaker 4: compete at.
Speaker 1: We're saying one thing and doing the other.
Speaker 2: Like we saw Corey last week going in on the
Speaker 2: girls for Bonne voting right, and I think it's weak.
Speaker 1: They all want to to vote. And what did Corey
Speaker 1: do this week?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, but yeah, let's go back slightly.
Speaker 5: One of the reasons why I got some respect with
Speaker 5: some people was when did chancey elimination happened. I said
Speaker 5: Chancey's name straight up, and I stuck with my alliance,
Speaker 5: even though I thought there might be a risk of
Speaker 5: him calling me down for saying an because me and
Speaker 5: IM would be your friend. So I was like, you
Speaker 5: might see this as disloyal or whatever. Right, So James
Speaker 5: Burn voted and Karen Burn vote all these guys that
Speaker 5: are all these big competitors supposedly, and they Burn voted
Speaker 5: for one reason and one reason only because they did
Speaker 5: They wanted to get in Chancey's good books and not
Speaker 5: be called in that.
Speaker 4: Karen said this.
Speaker 5: On camera Lucky toward me in the house, and I
Speaker 5: still didn't do it that I'm so willing to rough
Speaker 5: some feathers to stand up my lines, even if it
Speaker 5: meant getting called down there. So I get why Coley
Speaker 5: was pissed off and all of them girls. Then Burn
Speaker 5: volded you know next episode because again a lot of
Speaker 5: the girls talk, you know, the big talk, but they
Speaker 5: didn't walk it that week. And when we were there,
Speaker 5: this was very frustrated because we kind of thought this
Speaker 5: is going to happen before we went in on that
Speaker 5: girl's elimination. With this then meant if none of the
Speaker 5: girls are voting, someone in the guys then had to
Speaker 5: make the decision. So this is why they've done it.
Speaker 5: The girls are actually openly admitted this is why we're
Speaker 5: doing it. We're letting the guys make the decision because
Speaker 5: they're thinking.
Speaker 4: Of the future.
Speaker 5: Also, when the next girls one comes up again, and
Speaker 5: it also meant for a lot of the guys, we
Speaker 5: didn't know who could end up going in because when
Speaker 5: you have like, what was it, eleven votes or something,
Speaker 5: all it takes is like three votes, her three votes,
Speaker 5: her three votes, and you're tied. Yeah, we really don't
Speaker 5: know how this gonna happen. So we could lose a girl.
Speaker 5: That means a lot. So I see why Corey then
Speaker 5: probably taught in you know, the latest elimination that I
Speaker 5: went into. If everyone else has been burning several times
Speaker 5: along and a lot of people are playing in the
Speaker 5: same and all of that, you know, going under the
Speaker 5: raidar Colleen and all of these people that don't have
Speaker 5: any opinions for themselves, he probably taught you know what,
Speaker 5: I'm just going to do the same thing.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair, Look at you standing up for your friends.
Speaker 1: Will take it back.
Speaker 2: Well, we'll take a step back on that particular one.
Speaker 1: I need only that one for you one.
Speaker 2: I also put to know Hue your strategy real quick
Speaker 2: in that elimination, which it was a really fun game watch.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like that was an elimination you want
Speaker 2: to do? I feel like that was looked fun? Well
Speaker 2: you almost right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh hueye? But what was what? What was the
Speaker 1: disconnect in the beginning?
Speaker 2: And I know there's a lot going on, and this
Speaker 2: is coming from a question of place of curiosity and love.
Speaker 2: When you would roll the ball and just stand there
Speaker 2: like you were at put put golf and you would
Speaker 2: just watch it go to the inn before you would
Speaker 2: move to go woie what exactly?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 5: My strategy was very much focused on the speed I
Speaker 5: rolled the ball and which end I used, because, as
Speaker 5: Kylind explained, one end was kind of a bit more
Speaker 5: like blunt or whatever. It wasn't like, you know, it
Speaker 5: looked different eat, So basically hid the ball would roll
Speaker 5: off would be Yeah. I was very much focused on doubt,
Speaker 5: and which Kylin kind of wasn't until like his second
Speaker 5: ball or so on. But he was getting the strategy
Speaker 5: of running along the side with the ball. Obviously, it
Speaker 5: took me a few goes before I looked over and
Speaker 5: see what to hell he was doing.
Speaker 4: And then I see that, I was like, go for it.
Speaker 5: Yea, So I was focusing kind of And do you
Speaker 5: know what I was really trying to do, girls, was
Speaker 5: do you remember in my first season where I got
Speaker 5: really frustrated in elimination with Corey and Michelle and I
Speaker 5: was having an argument. Yes, this season, I was trying
Speaker 5: to remain calm. I finding not overthink things and focus
Speaker 5: on one thing at a time. And I know when
Speaker 5: you're in an elimination you have to be quick about stuff,
Speaker 5: but with my personality, I need to try think things. True,
Speaker 5: I know I fell over the box, but this is
Speaker 5: probably because I was so looking at my am.
Speaker 2: Thinking, yeah, but you did a really good job.
Speaker 1: It was neck and net. Yeah, you know that was
Speaker 1: I was shocked. That was like he might be kindly
Speaker 1: hold on.
Speaker 5: I know I wasn't too far behind, and I do
Speaker 5: you know, girls, I genuinely, seriously, I'm there to compete
Speaker 5: as much as anyone is, but I'm really proud of myself,
Speaker 5: like I've I know that on another day I could
Speaker 5: win that. On another day, I could win that probably
Speaker 5: against a lot of those other challengers.
Speaker 1: David, I think she could have won it against James,
Speaker 1: That's what she said.
Speaker 5: Well, a lot of people did say to me that
Speaker 5: really had a strong film I was gonna win, and
Speaker 5: that I probably could have won against majority of the guys.
Speaker 4: And the column was.
Speaker 5: Kyland was like a really strong competitor for that type
Speaker 5: of elimination.
Speaker 4: But I wanted to know that.
Speaker 5: Because what I tried to do before I went down
Speaker 5: when I thought it might be getting called, was I
Speaker 5: try to talk to some people who had different guys' strengths. Yea,
Speaker 5: not many people really knew what klin strengths were, or
Speaker 5: I don't know if they were just not telling me.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but that means.
Speaker 1: They weren't listening to the podcast.
Speaker 2: If y'all listened to the podcast, y'all would have known
Speaker 2: about he did break down being neurodivergent and how he
Speaker 2: is a great analyzer and mathematician and his strategy just makes.
Speaker 4: Me just makes me so far behind this guy.
Speaker 1: You did an amazing job, for sure. Yeah, we're playing.
Speaker 1: You did an amazing job.
Speaker 5: This guy is a fucking beast and he's huge in personally,
Speaker 5: he's a big guy, and he's like the most gorgeous
Speaker 5: man you've ever seen.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've met him.
Speaker 1: It's because he's it's because he sleeps in that silk bonnet.
Speaker 1: That will do it. Yeah, when you pay him.
Speaker 3: I said, Kylin about to go down there and do
Speaker 3: win times airtime speed, like he about to do the
Speaker 3: man right the what is it the theorem or somebody's no,
Speaker 3: you do know what?
Speaker 4: Girls?
Speaker 5: One of my reasons for saying Kyland And I said
Speaker 5: this in one of my otfs. I had a few
Speaker 5: situations with Kyland in the house that didn't air where
Speaker 5: he kind of was a bit snappy with me, and
Speaker 5: I feel like he got easily frustrated. And I don't
Speaker 5: know if this is maybe part of his personality with
Speaker 5: his autism, and because I pet Adhd also and I
Speaker 5: can get frustrated in scenarios. And I thought to myself,
Speaker 5: this is one of them games that you know, anyone
Speaker 5: could win. Anything can happen. You're gonna have a guy
Speaker 5: and the girl in there. It doesn't really matter and
Speaker 5: I thought maybe Kylin would get frustrated, but you know
Speaker 5: that was true because in the end it was starting
Speaker 5: to get slightly frustrated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and you were staying calm and you were
Speaker 1: doing it.
Speaker 2: Definitely was day and night between last season, your performance
Speaker 2: in your last season and now and how you were
Speaker 2: you You just like kind of took the advice. You
Speaker 2: took each step to them calm. We are very proud
Speaker 2: of you. And my husband hasn't seen this episode. I
Speaker 2: told you you're one of his favorites, but I know
Speaker 2: when he would see it, he would be very proud
Speaker 2: of you too.
Speaker 5: Hey look good. When I was running them, sho.
Speaker 2: That can I say?
Speaker 1: I was like Hue's Clappa's Okay. The wagon wagon?
Speaker 4: Why do you call it in America?
Speaker 1: Because it drag?
Speaker 2: Because because you know, like the wagon, you have the
Speaker 2: handle in the front, so you were dragging the wagon.
Speaker 3: I gotta so now that the dust is settled, we
Speaker 3: are sad to see you go, but you have a
Speaker 3: lot of friends, a lot of a lot of allies
Speaker 3: inside the house. Who do you want to see the wind?
Speaker 1: Yes? And who would you be mad if they do win?
Speaker 5: So Big Tea is obviously my favorite person in the
Speaker 5: house one hundred set my favorite person in the house.
Speaker 5: Berner also like burn Is, She's so loyle. Even the
Speaker 5: last few days, she's been messaging me about episodes that
Speaker 5: have come out where she's like, have you seen like I've.
Speaker 4: Really had your back Michelle. I love Michelle.
Speaker 5: Like I wasn't being shady when I said earlier that
Speaker 5: she tries to look busy and challenges.
Speaker 4: Michelle's a beast.
Speaker 5: She wouldn't survivor, but you know, only I would have
Speaker 5: looked to see a lot of them do really well.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: One thing that I found a bit hurtful at the time,
Speaker 5: but i'm now was the fact that James sat in
Speaker 5: the deliberation and was like even just said my name,
Speaker 5: because that's enough for people to jump on the bandwagon.
Speaker 5: And it kind of that kind of started then and
Speaker 5: then so I was at the time hope and I
Speaker 5: was like, oh my god, I love to see James
Speaker 5: doing really well and whatever.
Speaker 4: But big T is my number one. Her and Berner
Speaker 4: for sure definitely to be.
Speaker 1: Crushed if they won. Yeah, if they won, who would
Speaker 1: be man.
Speaker 5: Mad?
Speaker 4: If she won't let me look at you that light up.
Speaker 5: I don't know what, you know what I'd be excited
Speaker 5: for from all there's no one who I hate on
Speaker 5: the cast, right and I don't have any hatred towards
Speaker 5: anyone on the cast or anything.
Speaker 4: I don't and I would.
Speaker 3: Want to see calumwayn if if you win, you like
Speaker 3: to see Klamway, Well, I.
Speaker 5: Wouldn't be as a static if he want her Raven One,
Speaker 5: if Raven One, Callum one, hearing one?
Speaker 4: Who else? Like I didn't even have. I didn't like
Speaker 4: a lot of some of them.
Speaker 5: I didn't even have a relation of Zarah hold on,
Speaker 5: Oh hold up, I am sucking irritated with Sarah by
Speaker 5: the way, So she'd be the person who I'd least.
Speaker 1: Like to say when wait, why are you irritated?
Speaker 4: So Zara, I.
Speaker 5: Actually find this quite cruel thing to say, because I
Speaker 5: wouldn't deprive anyone of an opportunity. Enara was within the
Speaker 5: house saying that I don't even deserve to be on
Speaker 5: the show. I shouldn't be in the show. I'm taking
Speaker 5: up someone else's place because I'm not a sports fan
Speaker 5: and I'm not a big gym user. I did disgusting
Speaker 5: to say because I believe that I'm an asset.
Speaker 4: To the show. I try you are I try my
Speaker 4: best at my interviews.
Speaker 5: I had multiple conversations with people in the house about
Speaker 5: where to come from. I try to have a good time.
Speaker 1: Did you hear her say this directly or did someone
Speaker 1: tell you that she?
Speaker 5: He told me she said it, and I know how
Speaker 5: it's true, and I'll tell you why I know it's
Speaker 5: true is I had a conversation with Zarah. This is
Speaker 5: the part where I find it was quite wrong what
Speaker 5: she's done. I had a conversation with her to pool
Speaker 5: and we're talking about her life and all of that.
Speaker 5: And I got up to leave because a member of
Speaker 5: production came to get me about my interviews and we
Speaker 5: were trying to reschedule because I was sick. I lost
Speaker 5: my advice and I got up to leave. And when
Speaker 5: I left, Big Team was on like a little sun Langer.
Speaker 5: Karen Unlucky was there and on camera she said just
Speaker 5: to Kieren Unlucky, like Q shouldn't be on the show.
Speaker 4: There's others that deserve to be here more.
Speaker 5: Right after I've just been speaking to her, and then
Speaker 5: Big T came and got me right afterwards. It was like, oh,
Speaker 5: you want to come work out, let's do some flimming
Speaker 5: and stuff together. And that's why she'd done it was
Speaker 5: because this is what I've been saying about me.
Speaker 4: Wow, but I find way like I I.
Speaker 5: Find it because look, I could, right, I could be
Speaker 5: shady and stuff and turn around and say, like I
Speaker 5: personally don't look at someone like Zara and find her
Speaker 5: an interesting character that there's a lot of substance to
Speaker 5: her from a TV stundpoint, I don't. On this season,
Speaker 5: I wasn't. I didn't have as many moments that's called
Speaker 5: him as I did my debut season. But that's got
Speaker 5: to do with the people that was within the house.
Speaker 4: They were so serious.
Speaker 5: Everything was just constantly serious. Nobody seemed to want to
Speaker 5: have a good time. If a person said boo out
Speaker 5: of mistake, this was enough of a reason to send
Speaker 5: people in. So therefore nobody was even speaking her mind.
Speaker 5: Just not my vibe at all. So I look at
Speaker 5: someone like Zara, and doesn't I take to myself that
Speaker 5: you shouldn't even be on something like the Challenge because
Speaker 5: to me, the Challenge wouldn't have lasted forty seasons if
Speaker 5: we have.
Speaker 2: And you're I mean, you're one hundred percent right, and
Speaker 2: this just proved she hasn't watched the show. You need
Speaker 2: personalities on there.
Speaker 1: I was not known as.
Speaker 2: A physical competitor for sure, but made it to two finals.
Speaker 2: So I you know, I.
Speaker 4: I think that's kinds of finals. They're not.
Speaker 5: They're not the Flagship Show finals. They were like a
Speaker 5: lot less Weeks film. You have a big group of friends.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm saying she was.
Speaker 2: I'm saying I was on Flagship Finals, and I'm a personality.
Speaker 2: I Am not an athletic player by any stretch of
Speaker 2: the message. Right, So she that's a trash take. Her
Speaker 2: take is trash. Everybody's entitled to at least one bad one.
Speaker 2: But if we have her on the podcast, we will
Speaker 2: definitely ask about it. We may want to you call
Speaker 2: in Hue because you have so much Yeain Davon don't
Speaker 2: forget Davon literally watches the streets. So be careful what
Speaker 2: you tweet, what you say, what you put on Instagram,
Speaker 2: because you will find it back up and we may
Speaker 2: have to call you in in future episodes because you've got.
Speaker 1: So much tea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we appreciate it. In the meantime, if someone
Speaker 2: wants to keep up with you. Now if they want to,
Speaker 2: you know, appreciate your clappers or your wagon, or they
Speaker 2: just want a little bit of that Huey flair.
Speaker 1: Where can they find you on social media? Where can
Speaker 1: they follow you?
Speaker 5: And it's so Huey mon Official and Instagram, I've got Twitter,
Speaker 5: Facebook all the same, and I'm not I'm starting to
Speaker 5: get into TikTok and a little bit now and I
Speaker 5: might do my own YouTube channel or subjects so I
Speaker 5: can sit down and to speak crop all along form
Speaker 5: everyone's to hear.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we love it, Huey, and we love you.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for coming on the podcast, and
Speaker 2: thank you for your contributions to the challenge. You are
Speaker 2: fun to watch, You are interesting, and people like to
Speaker 2: see people that they can identify with you very much.
Speaker 2: Like Kylon said in this episode two and why he's
Speaker 2: out motivated to stay, it's like there needs to be diversity.
Speaker 2: People need to see people like them, and not everybody
Speaker 2: watching the show goes to the him sixty times a day,
Speaker 2: So I need people that I definitely still don't so
Speaker 2: seeing there's one in my building and I pay for
Speaker 2: the membership and I still don't know.
Speaker 1: It's a whole thing.
Speaker 2: But anyway, so definitely we appreciate seeing you, sending you
Speaker 2: so much love, Huie, and we'll definitely be back. Even
Speaker 2: TJ talked about how much he loves you, and that
Speaker 2: right there, I think speaks volumes.
Speaker 4: I know it was TJ TJ Instagrams. I like TJ
Speaker 4: and girls.
Speaker 5: Can I just say if I don't come back, I
Speaker 5: still love you, order TV work all the time, and
Speaker 5: I'm grateful for my time.
Speaker 1: We love that. But you're coming back here, You're coming
Speaker 1: back here, You're coming.
Speaker 2: They're gonna call you here and you're coming and we're
Speaker 2: excited and we'll have you back on the podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much for being.
Speaker 4: Here, you girls, thank you. Bye.
Speaker 1: Byeye. Baby, that right there too much teap for me
Speaker 1: to handle.
Speaker 2: I can't, baby, I didn't think i'd ever see the
Speaker 2: day that it was so much for you to hand.
Speaker 1: You were trying to swallow it money. I'm either get
Speaker 1: my life right. He yes, love it, I love it,
Speaker 1: love it, love it.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad he came to hang out with V
Speaker 3: gave us everything with meta and more. Okay, now, if
Speaker 3: the people need more of you, where can they find you?
Speaker 1: On the socials? Of the media.
Speaker 2: Well, guys, you can find me on a recent episode
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Speaker 2: most active on Instagram, but also on Twitter. To feel
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Speaker 2: sometimes it's a lot, but I do see read and
Speaker 2: appreciate the love. Also type in Devin Simone and Amazon
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Speaker 1: Day the one who's in the streets.
Speaker 2: So now know though, if you guys go and follow her,
Speaker 2: she may be looking at your stuff and keeping tabs
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Speaker 2: for Where can they find you on social day, Well,
Speaker 2: you can find me at the Catfish headquarters, trying to
Speaker 2: make them make you a permanent host so that I
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Speaker 3: Let's start there. Then you can also find me in
Speaker 3: these Twitter streets at day Avon Underscore, Instagram, Davion Diane underscored.
Speaker 1: You can find me on YouTube.
Speaker 2: Yeah you knew you can find the last time you.
Speaker 1: Posted a YouTube video two weeks ago. Okay, I'm glad
Speaker 1: you can find me on the It wasn't a video,
Speaker 1: it was a short. But you can find me on
Speaker 1: the use of.
Speaker 3: Tubes at Davion Diane and then on TikTok as Avon Diane.
Speaker 1: So yeah, you can find me all were the social
Speaker 1: media worlds.
Speaker 3: And then you can also find me right here on
Speaker 3: this podcast with the beautiful Devin Sman. And thank you,
Speaker 3: thank you guys for joining us for another episode of
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Speaker 3: Yes, and we'll see you back here right after for
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Speaker 1: That tea was so hot, I think I burned my hand.