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Speaker 1: Thirteen Days of Halloween Tenants, a co production of iHeart

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Speaker 1: three D Audio Blumhouse Television and Grim and Mild from

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Speaker 1: Aaron Yankey. Headphones recommended. Listener discretion advised.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the.

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Speaker 3: Oh shit? Okay, three minutes, plenty of time.

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Speaker 4: You have three new messages.

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Speaker 5: Okay, could be worse.

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Speaker 6: Cofell yesterday to talk about my warranty. I talked to

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Speaker 6: a woman I think her name shouldn't be me and

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Speaker 6: no ed. We talked about my quarranty, did we?

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Speaker 7: But I say I've had these questions.

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Speaker 6: About my warranty.

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Speaker 5: Jesus. I'll call back looking forward Friday.

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Speaker 7: March twenty second, at seven thirty three pm.

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Speaker 8: We understand your business is important to you, and that's

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Speaker 8: why it's important to protect it.

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Speaker 5: Not my business is not important to me.

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Speaker 7: No one likes to think about the.

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Speaker 5: Unforeseen, literally impossible.

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Speaker 7: But what if I told you you don't have.

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Speaker 3: To today at six fifty seven am?

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Speaker 5: Nikes? What did you call from a fallout shelter.

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Speaker 7: And of messages?

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Speaker 3: Okay, not too bad? Maybe this day won't be a

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Speaker 3: complete shit shell.

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Speaker 9: Hi, do you work here?

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Speaker 3: Well, my shirt matches the walls, so that's a good guess.

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Speaker 3: But actually we're not open for another.

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Speaker 9: This will only take a second to I smell coffee.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's for customers.

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Speaker 7: How considerate.

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Speaker 5: There's a little paper.

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Speaker 9: Cups, no need, I brought my own.

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Speaker 5: That's a giant thermos.

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Speaker 7: We have a long drive.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so what can I help you with?

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Speaker 7: It's just you here.

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Speaker 5: Like I said, we just opened.

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Speaker 10: Sugar in the cabinet under right, So did you need assistance.

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Speaker 7: Or well, not quite.

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Speaker 9: I was just curious if your boss was in that.

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Speaker 9: See I have a return.

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Speaker 3: A return, well we don't really take.

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Speaker 9: Well, that's why I wanted to come in person, sort

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Speaker 9: of a special circumstance.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 10: Well, I don't know exactly if when the manager will

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Speaker 10: be back in today, but you could come back another day.

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Speaker 9: And oh, unfortunately I'm on a schedule. If you could

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Speaker 9: just take a look and tell me if I've got

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Speaker 9: a case, it would be a tremendous h.

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Speaker 5: Okay, where is it in my car? Your car?

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Speaker 9: Well, I couldn't carry it myself back.

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Speaker 7: Why that's strong.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Columbian blend.

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Speaker 9: Should be pretty easy for you. I'm parked right out front.

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Speaker 5: Right sure?

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Speaker 11: Why not?

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Speaker 10: This is me the unmarked windowless murder van you're wicked.

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Speaker 3: Hi, now.

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Speaker 9: You better what.

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Speaker 4: Hu j'es up?

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Speaker 5: What is this place?

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Speaker 8: Wait?

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Speaker 3: Why am I handcuffed? What am I doing here? Am

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Speaker 3: I under arrest?

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Speaker 7: What?

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Speaker 3: What for?

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Speaker 7: What did he say?

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Speaker 5: Who are you people?

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Speaker 6: Wait?

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Speaker 3: Why are you doing this?

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Speaker 11: Stop?

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Speaker 5: Stop?

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Speaker 4: Let me go.

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Speaker 5: I didn't do anything.

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Speaker 2: Turn to the left.

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Speaker 5: What am I doing here?

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Speaker 7: Turn to the right.

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Speaker 3: If I am under arrest, you have to tell me

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Speaker 3: what I'm charged with? Face me else this is unlawful imprisonment.

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Speaker 7: Smile.

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Speaker 5: Oh, you've gotta be kidding me.

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Speaker 3: Left hand, first finger, roll it over in the press

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Speaker 3: it down on the scanner.

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Speaker 5: Weaight, what are we waiting.

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Speaker 9: For the machine to match them up?

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Speaker 5: Max them up with what? I've never been arrested for anything?

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Speaker 9: Left hand, middle finger, roll it over in the ink,

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Speaker 9: Press it down on the scanner.

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Speaker 5: Wait, this is going to take forever.

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Speaker 12: We have the time requisition of resident alpha SAE one five,

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Speaker 12: six to zero.

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Speaker 5: Inventory. What is happening to me?

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Speaker 12: Inventory? One pair of black sunglasses, missing nosebies, A collection

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Speaker 12: of keys hung from what looks like a shoelace.

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Speaker 5: I haven't done anything wrong.

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Speaker 12: One lighter does not appear to work. One pack of

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Speaker 12: juicy fruits, coustrip fluff, credit card, debit card, photo ID,

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Speaker 12: keep on pro free sandwich.

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Speaker 5: I need those loose bills and.

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Speaker 12: Change totaling two twenty two fifty correction twenty two forty.

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Speaker 9: That's a buzzing.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so you're robbing me too?

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Speaker 11: Is that it?

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Speaker 12: One necklace imitation silver in the shape of a half moon,

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Speaker 12: waxing gibbus, one black jacket, cleather, one jacket, fox, leather pants,

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Speaker 12: denim ripped, one belt.

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Speaker 3: One pair of black boots what I call.

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Speaker 12: Combat boots, flannel overshirt, cotton T shirt, socks for zier underbands,

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Speaker 12: and that's you.

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Speaker 5: Sign air.

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Speaker 3: You can't take my property before you tell me what

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Speaker 3: I'm accused of. This is unlawful search and seizure.

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Speaker 12: You may submit a petition to have these items returned

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Speaker 12: to you, but you have to sign for them first.

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Speaker 5: Well, can I fill out that petition please?

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Speaker 12: You'll have to visit the resident relations office.

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Speaker 5: Okay, where is that? Not here?

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Speaker 4: Temperate to a ninety six point six, A little.

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Speaker 5: Low and after such a warm reception.

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Speaker 4: Okay, see the light on the end of my pen.

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Speaker 4: Just follow it with your eyes. Keep your head still

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Speaker 4: to the left, to the.

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Speaker 5: Right, tell me what I'm doing here?

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Speaker 4: An optitude test first? Your vision good? Now, this may

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Speaker 4: be cold. Now, oh, just preaze is Oh? Tell me

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Speaker 4: where I am in the clinic. Cough the clinic where

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Speaker 4: no fluid in the lungs, no signor bronchitis? Good?

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Speaker 5: No, say, I don't understand why no one will answer me. Ah?

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Speaker 4: Good, Okay, now make a fist. Wow, your heart rate

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Speaker 4: is rather high. You're right handed?

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Speaker 5: Left handed?

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Speaker 4: Interest? Why smoke, drink? Take drugs?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 5: I could use all the above right now.

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Speaker 4: Any history of illness.

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Speaker 5: I was feeling fine until Have.

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Speaker 4: You been vaccinated for tetanus?

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Speaker 5: Just tetanus?

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Speaker 4: Probably time for a booster. Any history of rubella, rheumatism, mumps, measles, consumption?

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Speaker 3: Do people still get that smallpox?

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Speaker 4: Curvy scarlet fever?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Maybe playing Oregon trail.

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Speaker 4: Migrains, blurred vision, associative thoughts, associative non psychoses, grass and

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Speaker 4: drum walking, corpse foll you dear, I've never even heard

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Speaker 4: of that. Have you ever fainted? When's the last time

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Speaker 4: you cried? How many sexual partners have you had?

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Speaker 5: Okay, we're done here.

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Speaker 4: That is just the first page of the questionnaire.

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Speaker 8: Hello, ah, yes, yes, should be any minute now. Thank you.

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Speaker 8: You can wit in the hall perfectly. We don't expect

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Speaker 8: any excitement, do we. I buzz you when we're ready.

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Speaker 11: I'll be right with you.

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Speaker 8: Yes, yes, exactly this morning. Actually here with me now

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Speaker 8: in fact, will do?

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Speaker 9: Will do?

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Speaker 8: Okay?

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Speaker 13: Be seeing you?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Quite sorry about that, you know, always racing around to

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Speaker 8: catch up here. Okay, let's start at the beginning, shall we?

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Speaker 8: Siuri Rodriguez. No, I'm beg your pardoner.

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Speaker 5: That is not my name.

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Speaker 3: You're not I am Siuri martinez're.

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Speaker 8: Definitely Rodriguez in our files. Well, we'll just call you

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Speaker 8: Siary then, Siary. I am aiden, your case worker. Should

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Speaker 8: you have any questions, I am to be your first

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Speaker 8: point here.

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Speaker 5: Where is here?

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Speaker 8: Well? This is my office. I know it's small, but

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Speaker 8: there are a lot of other cases and thus a

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Speaker 8: lot of other case workers.

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Speaker 5: No, this place? Where am I?

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Speaker 8: Why? This is the Pendleton, the Pendleton Rehabilitation Center. Why

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Speaker 8: are you saying you don't remember how you got here?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 5: I remember being kidnapped.

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Speaker 3: I'm asking why because it seems like you went looking

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Speaker 3: for Rodriguez but ended up with Martinez by mistake.

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Speaker 8: In that case, Why do you think we wanted her.

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Speaker 5: What how should I know? I guess because she committed

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Speaker 5: some crime?

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Speaker 8: And what crime might that mean?

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Speaker 5: How the fuck would I know that?

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Speaker 8: Would you?

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Speaker 5: What I mean?

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Speaker 8: I keeped him on the desk, But such a small desk,

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Speaker 8: and with so many cases all open at once, and

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Speaker 8: each with more paperwork than the last, I need all

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Speaker 8: the space I can get just to try to keep

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Speaker 8: things organized. Would you like one?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 8: Alrighty? You know they have lost some of their mintias,

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Speaker 8: so Sayuri Martinez Rodriguez.

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Speaker 5: Martinez Garcia Algaras Cruz.

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Speaker 8: Born Beaumont Hospital, May twenty second, nineteen eighty nine. Oh

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Speaker 8: that's one twenty three pm.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 8: Mother of philosophy teacher, father at exoplanetology biologists.

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Speaker 5: Well the other way around? How's that? Professor dad? Doctor mom?

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Speaker 8: One point sixty three meters in heights.

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Speaker 3: I'm more comfortable with Imperial fifty three kilogram size seven shoes.

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Speaker 8: Didn't you notice that your new clothes fit perfectly the

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Speaker 8: first time you tried them on?

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Speaker 3: You mean the jumpsuit and sandals. Yeah, like a bad dream.

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Speaker 8: You broke your left arm in the sixth grade.

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Speaker 5: Right arm eighth grade?

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Speaker 8: Was that before or after you were suspended for smoking

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Speaker 8: in the girl's bathroom.

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Speaker 5: Hey, h I think that was high school.

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Speaker 8: Some thirty one credits accumulated in various higher learning programs,

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Speaker 8: no degrees? Is that correct?

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Speaker 3: What's it to you?

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Speaker 8: Your favorite cat was named spot Neck. At least if

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Speaker 8: the answers to your security questions can be trusted in

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Speaker 8: all your life, You've only left the United States once

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Speaker 8: to visit the Toronto Airport.

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Speaker 7: You're allergic to.

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Speaker 8: Pineapple, and you are the fourth owner of a nineteen

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Speaker 8: ninety six Chevy Corsica with one green fender, or you were.

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Speaker 8: My point sory is whatever you'd like to call yourself,

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Speaker 8: we already know far more than we could expect you

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Speaker 8: to tell us, and whatever contradictions you feel compelled to share,

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Speaker 8: it would be very difficult to surprise me.

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Speaker 5: Okay, suppose you're wrong.

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Speaker 3: Hope for the sake of argument, that these addictions are

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Speaker 3: not clerical errors but indicate something else. And what's that

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Speaker 3: That you've got the wrong guy?

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Speaker 8: Well, then I'd say you have nothing to worry about.

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Speaker 8: The smallest, er, unfathomable as that is, would certainly be

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Speaker 5: Has that ever happened before?

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Speaker 5: But if it did.

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Speaker 3: If you locked someone up despite substantial evidence disputing their guilt,

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Speaker 8: What you must understand is that each of us is

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Speaker 3: Okay, rapid fire around. Am I under arrest?

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Speaker 8: We don't like to use that word.

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Speaker 5: Can I leave of my own free will?

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Speaker 7: Not?

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Speaker 8: At this time.

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Speaker 5: On what grounds are you holding me?

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Speaker 8: The ground of the Pendleton rehability?

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Speaker 5: What is my charge?

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Speaker 8: None at this time?

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Speaker 5: No charge. How can you detain me if there is

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Speaker 5: no charge under suspicion? Suspicion of what?

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Speaker 8: Being dangerous?

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Speaker 5: Dangerous? What the hell does that mean? Dangerous? How am

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Speaker 8: A little help in here?

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Speaker 7: It's the problem.

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Speaker 5: I don't know who you think I am, but you've

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Speaker 3: I demand to be shown the evidence against me, she demands.

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Speaker 8: Move wait a moment. First days are hard for everyone,

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Speaker 8: if you let it. Crimes in Carill are going to

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Speaker 8: Do you.

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Speaker 5: What about my phone call?

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Speaker 13: What about it?

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Speaker 11: Hey?

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Speaker 5: Come back here. You can't leave me like this. Hello, Hello.

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Speaker 5: They can't do this to me. They can't, and they

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Speaker 5: know they can't. I just need to show them that

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Speaker 5: I'm not who they think I am, That I am

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Speaker 5: who I say I am, And really it should be

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Speaker 5: How does anyone actually prove that they are who they

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Speaker 11: I know?

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Speaker 5: There's someone there. I can hear you in the next cell.

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Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 7: Habitation what don't call themselves? Say? Habitations are simply rooms.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what it looks like on your side

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Speaker 5: And no window.

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Speaker 7: It also has a mirror.

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Speaker 5: What's that supposed to mean?

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Speaker 1: That?

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Speaker 7: It's clearly your first.

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Speaker 3: Day, but you have to understand there's been a mistake.

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Speaker 5: I really don't belong here.

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Speaker 7: Listen. I've been living in this eight foot cube for

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Speaker 7: a long time, the one you currently occupy, seeing a

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Speaker 7: be strong and keep to yourself. Don't make friends.

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Speaker 5: So this is a prison, then what the pen?

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Speaker 7: No, it's a rehabilitation center.

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Speaker 5: Rehabilitation for what if you're here?

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Speaker 7: There's a reason, even if you don't see it yet.

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Speaker 5: How much more time do you have?

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Speaker 7: Ever?

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 7: Everyone in the Pendleton served a life sentence?

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Speaker 8: What?

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Speaker 5: But why?

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Speaker 7: The reason for your captivity may not be the thing

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Speaker 5: Then what does what you do next? I'm going to

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Speaker 5: get out?

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Speaker 7: And how may I ask? Or are you going to

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Speaker 3: I'll call my lawyer, your lawyer, Well, I'll find a lawyer,

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Speaker 3: and eddy lawyer who hears about my case is sure

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Speaker 3: to take it. I've been unlawfully imprisoned, my civil liberties

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Speaker 3: have been violated. We could take down the whole establishment.

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Speaker 7: Okay, short of mounting a groundbreaking legal defense, what's your

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Speaker 5: Escape?

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Speaker 7: Come again?

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Speaker 5: Escape?

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Speaker 7: You don't have to whisper that word. Doesn't stoke much

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Speaker 7: fear around here, Lieutenant Grimes, Lieutenant Carrill for it. Resident,

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Speaker 7: Just letting you know I'm planning my next escape good luck.

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Speaker 7: You see anything dealing.

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Speaker 5: Surely people try to escape.

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Speaker 7: Generally they're caught, then punished by whatever the pen considers

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Speaker 7: a proportional response.

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Speaker 5: Hmmm.

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Speaker 3: So whatever the goal of this inhumane experiment, the results

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Speaker 3: are arousing success.

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Speaker 5: Everyone's spirits have been broken.

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Speaker 7: No, not everyone. But in all my time here, I've

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Speaker 7: only known one who never gave in. In fact, it

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Speaker 7: was the fellow that used to have your room. Tell

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Speaker 5: There's graffiti all over this place, but.

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Speaker 7: Right above the door, carved into the stone. Covalis Caval,

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Speaker 7: a Frenchman, always on a plot, and that was the

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Speaker 5: What was he in for escaping?

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Speaker 7: Prison?

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Speaker 11: Oh?

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Speaker 3: So this is not a prison, but it's where you

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Speaker 7: Because I understand Caval did time in some of the

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Speaker 7: of every cage that held him until he reached the pin.

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Speaker 5: Okay, but what was his crime in the first place?

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Speaker 7: That's a great question.

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Speaker 5: So did he ever escape?

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Speaker 7: Yes?

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Speaker 5: How did he do it?

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Speaker 7: You don't have to whisper everybody knows.

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Speaker 3: By now, okay, fine, what did he do.

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Speaker 7: He never stopped trying.

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Speaker 5: But what did he try?

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Speaker 11: Say?

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Speaker 7: Just about everything under the sun.

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Speaker 5: Okay, you're not really giving me much to work with here.

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Speaker 7: What are you hoping for? Exactly instructions? I just the

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Speaker 7: first person you meet here will miraculously give you everything

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Speaker 7: you need to make a break.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Look, I'm only just first of all, forget it,

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Speaker 3: forget what the idea of getting out?

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Speaker 7: You're not, I'm not, none of us are.

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Speaker 5: Well, you don't have to be mean about it.

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Speaker 7: At this point, I've spent more time inside than out.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 7: Well, don't be That's not your way to bear. My

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Speaker 7: point is what you've seen of the Pendleton is only

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Speaker 7: I believe. And you can't get out if you don't

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Speaker 5: That's impossible.

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Speaker 7: What does it matter? Oh?

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Speaker 5: Do the laws of physics matter.

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Speaker 7: As someone who was a physicist in a former life.

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Speaker 5: Former life, were you also studying reincarnation?

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Speaker 7: No building nuclear reactors?

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Speaker 5: Oh so the.

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Speaker 7: First thing to understand is the tricks that get you

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Speaker 7: he tried them all Caval Whatever you may be dreaming

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Speaker 7: up now, maybe his experience will dissuade you.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm all yours.

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Speaker 7: Coval was the hell of a lock thick and it

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Speaker 7: didn't take much twisted hairpin, misshapen paper clip, rusty spoon.

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Speaker 7: Problem is this place is full of doors. Doors that

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Speaker 7: but hardly any windows.

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Speaker 5: Isn't that a skylight up there?

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Speaker 7: Aren't you? Observant? Look and tell me what you see.

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Speaker 5: Nothing, It's dark.

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Speaker 7: Exactly dead ends all of them. Govall was a cut purse.

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Speaker 7: A pickpocket could get his hands down anyone's trousers, but

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Speaker 7: it was always a crap shoot. Use handkerchiefs half done

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Speaker 7: Govall found loose keys of every style, two sided, four sided,

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Speaker 7: By finding somewhere to hide them? Solid rock, all of

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Speaker 7: Maybe he smuggle set of nail clippers, at worst the

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Speaker 7: sharpened butt of his toothbrush. Cavall left half finished tunnels

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Speaker 7: all over the pendleton, some no bigger than a hole

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Speaker 7: I imagine there's a few around that they never managed

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Speaker 5: Yes, it's got no graffiti. That was caval. His tunnels

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Speaker 7: One very nearly did, went missing. A week before some

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Speaker 5: It was Caval.

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Speaker 7: He'd been up in the air ducks, living off candy

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Speaker 5: I'm guessing he couldn't find an exit.

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Speaker 7: Should have an intake right where air flows in from

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Speaker 7: is another question. But Caval said he never caught a

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Speaker 7: speck of sunlight, which confirmed a bleak suspicion we'd long

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Speaker 5: Like no internet.

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Speaker 7: Please phone maybe if you want to make an inside call.

462
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 5: What about television?

463
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,399
Speaker 7: Closed circuit mail? You can write it, they'll screen it

464
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 7: and throw it away. Newspapers sides the occasional new resident.

465
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,399
Speaker 7: Very little comes into the pen. Far less ever leaves.

466
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 3: Doesn't anyone protests, demand fair treatment, petition the warden for

467
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: basic human rights.

468
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 7: Oh, nobody talks to the warden. Nobody, not that I

469
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 7: know of, never even seen them. Caval would agree with you,

470
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 7: But what can you change when you hold none of

471
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,919
Speaker 7: the power to fight from the inside. You have to

472
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 7: become one of the warders.

473
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 5: I don't get it is that some kind of metaphor.

474
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 7: Caval had been on a stint in the hole. No

475
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 7: one had seen him in a month. Then one day

476
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 7: it lights up. There's a new guard on the block,

477
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,639
Speaker 7: tall and muscular with a full red beard. I didn't

478
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 7: think much of it until the guy called rolled wild

479
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 7: in a French accent.

480
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 5: Wait wait, wait, wait, you're saying solitary.

481
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 7: He faked some kind of injury, got the attending guard

482
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,919
Speaker 7: alone in the cell, then knocked the bastard out, stole

483
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 7: his clothes, his keys, and detained them in a stead

484
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 7: Squez managed to access areas of the pen he'd never

485
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 7: seen before, but nothing special, locker room, lounge, the john,

486
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 7: and still he couldn't find an exit. By the next morning,

487
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,679
Speaker 7: the jig was up and Gavall was back in solitary,

488
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 7: serving an extended sentence that.

489
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 5: Is absolutely insane.

490
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 7: Gutsy though, and then there was the gun gun fake

491
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 7: gun quittled with a spoon out of a block of

492
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 7: balts of wood. Pretty rough but convincing enough to hold

493
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 7: his caseworker hostage. Was going okay until he pretended to

494
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 7: cock him and broke the barrel in half.

495
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 5: These seems to be getting more.

496
00:26:54,680 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 7: And more desperate. Well, he also tried seduction. Don't no much.

497
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 7: He didn't like to talk about it, as I understand

498
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 7: he didn't discriminate, but beyond receiving a better portion lunch

499
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 7: tray or first choice for work detail. Like everything else,

500
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 7: easily aisons led only to dead ends.

501
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 5: This is getting kind of sad.

502
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 7: It gets sadder. There was his hunger strike lasted forty days,

503
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 7: ended with a feeding tube jammed down his throat, And

504
00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 7: there were the fake illnesses castor oil in the eyes

505
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 7: to make them look infected. That type of thing ended

506
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 7: up getting him in more trouble than it was worth.

507
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 5: Did he go blind?

508
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 7: The eye healed up fine. But the doctor have you

509
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 7: met her?

510
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 11: Yep?

511
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 7: She it is no joke, runs that infirmary like her

512
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 7: own personal laboratory with patients for guinea pigs. After too

513
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 7: many times crying wolf, she took a special interest in

514
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 7: caval developed a course of treatment just for him. What

515
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 7: do you mean, constant inva of examinations, courses of experimental drugs,

516
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 7: complete psychological remapping, in a word, brainwashing.

517
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:08,880
Speaker 5: Are you serious?

518
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 7: The pen recognized him as a threat to neutralize it,

519
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:17,120
Speaker 7: they needed to reprogram him. That's what he was here for.

520
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 7: That's what we're all here for.

521
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 8: Really.

522
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 7: Oh yes, they have many ways to do it, some

523
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,360
Speaker 7: so subtle. You won't notice anything is happening. Others well

524
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 7: more forthright. But no matter what you think you can handle,

525
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,159
Speaker 7: who you think you are, they will get to you

526
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 7: sooner or later, by hook or by crook, They get

527
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 7: to everyone. Cavall came to the conclusion that if there

528
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 7: was no way to slip out peacefully, the only alternative

529
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 7: would be to take the pen by force. And so,

530
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 7: one day, like every day, a few minutes before five,

531
00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 7: the head lieutenant called dinner. Everyone lined up outside theirs,

532
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 7: even more promptly than usual, to the mess hall march,

533
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:10,719
Speaker 7: but not a soul stirred on the double, the lieutenant barked.

534
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 7: Every resident held their place, and then the guards saw

535
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 7: what they were up against. Weapons one in the hands

536
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 7: of every con daggers fashioned from rusty spoons and plastic combs,

537
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 7: swords and spears made out of chair legs and mob handles,

538
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 7: padlocks and tube socks, swung his maces, shoelaces and electrical cords,

539
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 7: even tangles of floss stretched fists to fist like choke wire.

540
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 7: Hold your ranks, the lieutenant cried. To this day, people

541
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 7: argue about who broke the line first, but the guards

542
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 7: were outnumbered. Most fled, some were taken hostage. The doors

543
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 7: to the ward were barricaded at both sides, and in

544
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 7: a few short minutes the sea block belonged to the prisoners.

545
00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 5: Don't you mean residents?

546
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 7: That's what I said, right. No one knows exactly how

547
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 7: the guards got back in, and I imagine it was

548
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 7: those damn doors. I don't know where or how, but

549
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 7: I believe they're secret doors all over this place, not

550
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 7: too good at letting anyone out, but for someone who

551
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 7: understands how they work, they can be used to get

552
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 7: into just about anywhere anywhere.

553
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:37,880
Speaker 5: What did they do?

554
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 7: In the middle of the night, An army of armed

555
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 7: guards poured unto the floor. Seemed like they appeared from nowhere,

556
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 7: but I suspect they came in a few at a

557
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 7: time through different spots all over the block, dressed as

558
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 7: prisoners and masqueraded as part of the rebellion, taking up

559
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 7: residents and empty cells until they were sufficient in number,

560
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 7: and all at once, they took a decisive strike. As

561
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 7: far as I know, they didn't have any evidence against

562
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 7: caval but still the warden pegged him as the mastermind.

563
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 7: They hauled him off and threw him in solitary.

564
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 5: How long was he there for that time?

565
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 7: A year?

566
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 5: Or was it too Jesus Christ?

567
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 7: They wanted to make an example of him, and I'd

568
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 7: say it worked. Nothing like that has been attempted since.

569
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 5: How was he when he got out?

570
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 7: Skinnier paler the Red Beard was back. Took him a

571
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 7: while to get on his feet. The real problem, the

572
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 7: reason every plot failed, was they didn't have an exit strategy.

573
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 7: However far he got, he'd still be searching for a

574
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 7: way out, without knowing where it could be, even what

575
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 7: it would look like. The question becomes, how can the

576
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 7: guards navigate the pen but the cons can't? I don't

577
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 7: think the answer is intelligent, which led to a rumor

578
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 7: that the guards carry a map.

579
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 5: A map? Wouldn't that make it too easy?

580
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 7: I didn't believe it either until one day our master

581
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 7: pickpocket had got his hands on one. At least that's

582
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 7: what he thought it was.

583
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 5: Did you see it?

584
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 7: I did?

585
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 5: What did it look like?

586
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 7: Palm sized circular, a lightweight disc, like a big aluminum coin.

587
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 7: The content was a mess concentric circles and intersecting lines,

588
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 7: boxes and arrows, and squiggles and squares, superimposed with symbols

589
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 7: like invented hieroglyphics, and naturally there was no key. Honestly,

590
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 7: the image hardly seemed to resemble a map at all,

591
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 7: but Cavall became convinced he could use it to get

592
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 7: out the stone. Yeah, maybe he was onto.

593
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 5: Something over my head, says the nuclear physicist.

594
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 7: What he was planning, he never said, but I knew

595
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 7: he wouldn't hesitate if there was any chance for freedom.

596
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 7: The day he found that map would be his last.

597
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 7: That night, like any other, the cells were locked at

598
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 7: exactly seven. I laid in my bunk, still as a stone,

599
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 7: listening for any sign that caval was making his way.

600
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 7: But nothing. The clock chimed eight nine, ten eleven midnight,

601
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 7: and then it happened, a terrible sound, so loud it

602
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 7: shook the bars, and shrill, like the tearing of metal, hard,

603
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 7: like the breaking of stone. Suddenly the entire cell block

604
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 7: was flooded with light, not sickly fluorescence, soft blue daylight

605
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 7: so bright had burned my eyes. That skylight overhead that

606
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 7: no one could ever hope to reach, had burst wide open.

607
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 5: But I thought you said it was midnight.

608
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 7: Why I trust a thing like time? While I maintenance

609
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 7: crew welded the skylight shut from a scissor lift. Roll

610
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 7: was called. Of course, Covall was missing. The pen organized

611
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 7: a search, scoured every cell, office, car, door, conduit, a

612
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 7: dark corner they could think of, questioned each resident and

613
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 7: I imagine every guard and member of the staff too,

614
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 7: But no one knew anything. Even I didn't really except

615
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 7: I truly believed that he had made it.

616
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 5: Wow, Wow, Where did he go?

617
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 7: I don't know, none of us do.

618
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 5: I wish I could ask him?

619
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 7: You can try.

620
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 5: What do you mean?

621
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 7: Okay? If she comes with me for a walk, Bromuca,

622
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 7: where down to deep block? God would boom? You're going

623
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 7: to behave.

624
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 11: Mm hmm.

625
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 7: This way?

626
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 5: So caval you mean to say he's still here?

627
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 7: Twenty eight days? He made it on the outside before

628
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 7: they caught.

629
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 5: Him, So he didn't escape.

630
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,240
Speaker 7: Long enough to see the lunar cycle, but not happily.

631
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 5: Ever after, Where did they find him?

632
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 7: I don't know, but I'm sure it wasn't in here?

633
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 5: Well? What happened after they caught him?

634
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 7: What happens to everyone who tries to escape? Down to

635
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 7: the dungeon? The dungeon solitary confinement.

636
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 5: Oh oh, so you don't mean like an actual like.

637
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 7: A literal due I do, okay?

638
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 5: Is he still down there?

639
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 7: No? Eventually they gave him a room in d the

640
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 7: Special Project's.

641
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 5: Ward, and you never asked him how it worked or

642
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 5: what he saw I did.

643
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 7: But maybe you'll have better luck.

644
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 5: I'm sorry if it's okay, I wanted to ask you

645
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 5: a question. Is that okay? I wanted to ask uh?

646
00:36:52,280 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 5: When you escaped? What did you see? I'm sorry. I

647
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 5: don't speak French or the bass.

648
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 9: But the block knock at the gods, stealer clothes, get

649
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 9: the key, get the map.

650
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 7: But you can't read the map.

651
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 9: You need to be able to read the map.

652
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 7: If you can't read the map.

653
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 9: You have to take the door without knowing where it goes.

654
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 9: If you take the door without knowing where it goes,

655
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 9: you want the.

656
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 5: Way you'll go where he'll go.

657
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 9: And when you get there, you wont know how to

658
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 9: get back, but they will.

659
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 7: They will find you. Then they will bring you back.

660
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 7: But which one?

661
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 9: Only one way up and many ways back? Always lead back,

662
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 9: always lead back?

663
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 5: Is he always?

664
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 9: How can I rest? If he's out there? How can

665
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 9: you go?

666
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 14: If I'm in here.

667
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 7: I am alone, but not alone.

668
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 14: I will never be alone, just like he will never

669
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:42,240
Speaker 14: be alone alone, but not alone alone but on cave.

670
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 5: When you made it out, when you escaped. Can you

671
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 5: tell me anything, anything at all? How did you do it?

672
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 5: What did you see? Where did you think you were?

673
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,280
Speaker 5: Anything would be helpful. Please.

674
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 3: If I can't know why I'm here, at least I

675
00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 3: need to know where here is.

676
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 5: I know you you do. The people who talk, well,

677
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I don't understand.

678
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 13: You.

679
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 9: Sure, I have been here a long time.

680
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 5: I just got here today.

681
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 9: So it seems so, it seems so, it seems so,

682
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 9: it seems so.

683
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 7: It seems so.

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Speaker 9: It seems so it seems Do you mean that what

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Speaker 9: it seems is not what it seems? So?

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Speaker 5: Many? Wait?

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Speaker 3: Do you mean you've seen someone else who looks like me?

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Speaker 14: It seems that you, like me, are not alone, like

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Speaker 14: he is not alone, like he is not alone, Like

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Speaker 14: we are not alone, all of us, none of us,

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Speaker 14: not now, not there, never to be alone again. See

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Speaker 14: said to show you the way.

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Speaker 7: Back, Like I said, navigating this place can be confusing.

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Speaker 5: What happened to him?

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Speaker 7: I don't know. In a way I don't want to know.

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Speaker 7: It's sad, but in here it really is better to

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Speaker 7: keep your expectations of other people low.

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Speaker 13: Frip Rodriguez Martinez lights out in your habitations now, Jorge mused,

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Speaker 13: I'm under Filip, I'm full of them.

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Speaker 7: You knew here, so I'll say it once. No talking.

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Speaker 9: It's about going in with you, sweet dreams.

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Speaker 7: Ten hours to a morning. The first night is the

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Speaker 7: longest hanging there.

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Speaker 5: I thought you weren't going to be my Virgil.

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Speaker 7: Keep your expectations low. I will too get through the

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Speaker 7: night sleep. If you can join me for breakfast in

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Speaker 7: the morning six am sharp, you'll meet people who will

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Speaker 7: tell you things I never could.

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Speaker 5: Okay, thank you, good night Frip. Hour one hour, two hour,

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Speaker 5: three hour, four.

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Speaker 11: Or five.

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Speaker 5: Somebody's out there, mm hmmm.

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Speaker 11: Hello, oh yeah, yeah, I got.

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Speaker 3: Ma.

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Speaker 2: I say ma, Hi, Sid, what are.

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Speaker 5: You doing here? Why are you barefoot?

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Speaker 8: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: M Thirteen Days of Halloween Pennance starring Natalie Morales. Episode

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Speaker 1: one Detainment, written by Alexander Williams, editing and sound design

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Speaker 1: by Jesse Funk and rima Ilkayali, featuring the voices of

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Speaker 1: Joseph Whipp, Alex Bowling, Jeff Bauser, Raphael Corekil, Jay Jones,

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Speaker 1: Lauren Vogelbaum, Miguel Perez, Steve b Green, Laura Shine Blair,

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Speaker 1: Chandler Wilber Fitzgerald, and Anna Hammler. Directed by Alexander Williams.

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Speaker 1: Executive producers Aaron Mankey, Noah Feinberg, Chris Dicky, Matt Frederick

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Speaker 1: and Alexander Williams. Supervising producers Trevor Young and Josh Thaine.

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Speaker 1: Producers Jesse funk rima Ilkayali, Noami Griffin, Chandler Mays, and

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Speaker 1: Cassby Bias. Script editing by Lauren Vogelbaum. Story consultants Ben

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Speaker 1: Bolan and Matthew Riddle, Cassie By, Sunday Bowling CSA, and

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Speaker 1: Meg Mormon CSA. Production coordinator Wayna Calderonz. Production assistants Jenna

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Speaker 1: Johnson and Winona Lowe. Theme music by Rose Aserti with

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Speaker 1: vocals by Anna Hummler, recorded at This Is Sound Design

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Speaker 1: Studios in Burbank, California. Engineered by Ross aeronaut Special thanks

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Speaker 1: to Romelia Osorio, Nathan Rule, Glenn Nishida, and Rob Mosca.

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Speaker 1: Thirteen Days of Halloween was created by Matt Frederick and

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Speaker 1: Alexander Williams. En is a production of iHeart Podcasts, Blumhouse

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Speaker 1: Television and Grimm and Mild from Aaron Makey. Learn more

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Speaker 1: about the show at Grimandmild dot com. Slash thirteen days

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Speaker 1: and find more podcasts from iHeartRadio by visiting the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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Speaker 1: Happy Halloween,