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Speaker 1: quite a streak here.

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Speaker 2: Congratulations Todd.

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Speaker 2: Seaton before we get to our two. Yeah, our one's

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Speaker 2: not going well for show. Hey gotta admit, okay, show,

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Speaker 2: Hey Otani is a victim or not telling all he

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Speaker 2: knows with an s right now it's at eighty six

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Speaker 2: percent not telling all he knows. Our two we're gonna

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Speaker 2: go with currently having a worse betting scandal Major League

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Speaker 2: Baseball or the NBA. Well, the NBA is involving a

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Speaker 2: player who is adjusting, you know, numbers during a game. Sho,

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Speaker 2: Hey Otani is involved in something, whether he's a victim

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Speaker 2: or not, he's involved in something.

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Speaker 4: Right, but what you have is some random dude nobody's

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Speaker 4: ever even really heard of fixing games versus the face

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Speaker 4: of the sport, the biggest name, the number one guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you actually you have somebody playing in a

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Speaker 2: game and is he betting on himself? He's telling other people.

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Speaker 2: So this is actually something that's happened twice to Johntay

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Speaker 2: Porter of the Toronto Raptors show. Hey, unless there's a

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Speaker 2: paper trail that says that he was betting on baseball,

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Speaker 2: betting on other sports, I guess, But okay, imagine this.

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Speaker 2: The commissioners of the three big sports wake up today.

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Speaker 2: You got the NFL. Roger Goodell's at the owner's meetings

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Speaker 2: and he's worried about the hip drop tackle. That's the

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Speaker 2: biggest problem that he's dealing with. Adam Silver is dealing

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Speaker 2: with a player in Toronto who is betting the under

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Speaker 2: on his stats and taking himself out of a game,

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Speaker 2: and somebody bet twenty thousand dollars on that. And then

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Speaker 2: you have Major League Baseball with Rob Manfred. He's dealing

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Speaker 2: with the face of his sport involved in gambling and

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Speaker 2: you're just opening up the season. So it's great to

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Speaker 2: be Roger goodell, you know, because he's in Orlando and

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Speaker 2: having fun. They just passed the new kickoff rule, so

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Speaker 2: we will have you know, when somebody says, oh, we're

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Speaker 2: gonna have kickoffs, saying no, no, we've had kickoffs. Now

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have returns. That's what we need. And football

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Speaker 2: So they just passed that. Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback,

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Speaker 2: will join us coming up a little bit later on.

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Speaker 2: And the hip drop tackle. Fifteen players missed time this

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Speaker 2: past year due to those tackles. And now I once

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Speaker 2: again we're asking the officials to do even more. And

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to do the eye in the sky.

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Speaker 2: I think they're going to have the overhead judge, just

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Speaker 2: if you're going to review roughing the passer. You know,

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Speaker 2: you're just asking these officials to do more, and we

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Speaker 2: already question if they're good enough, competent enough, you know,

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Speaker 2: can they keep up with all the action? Now we're

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Speaker 2: just adding more. Hey, we need you to somehow judge

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Speaker 2: if that's a hip drop tackle in the moment, or

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Speaker 2: you know, are we going to review that roughing the

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Speaker 2: passer call? But keep adding and I think if they

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Speaker 2: add and you know, an overhead judge, another camera angle

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Speaker 2: these these cameras, these TVs, you can see all of this,

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Speaker 2: and I think the more help we can give them

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Speaker 2: not have You know, sometimes replay will take forever certain sports,

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Speaker 2: like you'll just go, you gotta be kidding me, and

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Speaker 2: then we're watching it and you go, no, it's obviously

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Speaker 2: you know that's a foul, And then they'll take forever

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Speaker 2: and ever and ever, and then they'll eventually say, and

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Speaker 2: that's a foul. See that's the problem I have. It

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Speaker 2: used to be called instant replay. It's not. It's called replay.

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Speaker 2: If if they would get back to the instant then

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Speaker 2: I would I'd feel a whole lot better about this.

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Speaker 2: So that what is going on now Otani and his

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Speaker 2: It feels like it's going to until somebody has some

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Speaker 2: Otani has to sit down with any buddy more on

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Speaker 2: the illegal bookmaker. Does he know anything? And the biggest

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Speaker 2: four and a half million dollars, we know about a million,

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Speaker 2: what about the three and a half million? Is there

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Speaker 2: a paper trail for that? Does that go back to

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Speaker 2: show Hey, Otani's computer or his account? The interpreter, I'm

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Speaker 2: assuming had that information to be able to do this.

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Speaker 2: Otani didn't address that yesterday. I don't think he said

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Speaker 2: that he had all my information to log into my computer,

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Speaker 2: even though it sounded like he was using his computer

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Speaker 2: to be able to make these transactions. The fact that

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Speaker 2: a bank would not notice this, I was kind of,

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Speaker 2: you know, surprised at that, but O'tani said that, you know,

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Speaker 2: he did not know until after Game one in South Korea.

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Speaker 2: What was going on, because there is the video where

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Speaker 2: he's standing next to his interpreter during that game. Everything

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Speaker 2: seemed fine. Here is Otani through his interpreter talking about

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Speaker 2: Epei Mizuhara using his account.

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Speaker 3: And finally when we went back to the hotel and

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Speaker 3: I found out that he had a massive debt and

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Speaker 3: it was revealed to me during that meaning that head

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Speaker 3: admitted that he was sending money using my account to

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Speaker 3: the bookmaker.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what was it for every one of these transactions here?

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Speaker 2: And how did he have access to your computer? And

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Speaker 2: what about the other three and a half million dollars?

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Speaker 2: I'd be curious about that.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Tom, I'm no technology expert, but is there a way,

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Speaker 5: especially when you're making that kind of money and it's

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Speaker 5: hard to trust everyone to have something on your phone

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Speaker 5: of money, you can set up something where it lets

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Speaker 5: you know in case there's some kind of FRAUDULENTO payment

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Speaker 5: going on, that something's up, Like a lot of people

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Speaker 5: have that. If there's certain amount of money.

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Speaker 2: Then you check yourn.

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Speaker 5: I do. Actually, my wife, I can't buy her a

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Speaker 5: I told hell.

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Speaker 3: Kind of take that off.

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Speaker 5: But that's that's actually I'm sharing something very true here.

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Speaker 5: I brought her a piece of jewelry and she's like,

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Speaker 5: why are you buying me, Julie, I already have that

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Speaker 5: or whatever. I'm like, really, this is supposed to be

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Speaker 5: for your birthday or mother's day or something.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's just this would have been good to know

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Speaker 2: two years ago. If you're show HEO time, I.

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Speaker 5: Guess, but I would hope going forward there's something where

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Speaker 5: he gets an alert.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody going to have access. I think

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Speaker 2: he's learned his last i'd say, so Clint in Kentucky

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Speaker 2: High Clint, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 6: DP Hey, but six to too sexy? Just checking in.

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Speaker 6: So I have banking experience, you know. I won't go

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Speaker 6: in too much detail because I don't really want to

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Speaker 6: being in celebrity or high profile, it's a known thing

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Speaker 6: right that he would be have access to a private

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Speaker 6: a banker that would bring either funds directly to him,

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Speaker 6: wire transfer documents to him, or also if he has

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Speaker 6: a known associate that he's approved previously, that known associate

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Speaker 6: can step into a bank and take some funds out,

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Speaker 6: to that that representative can do. So this is you know,

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Speaker 6: you can really kind of believe show hey in this way,

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Speaker 6: because that is a possible thing that I've seen daily happenings.

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Speaker 2: All Right, thank you, Clint. Yeah, the personal assistant, Hey,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to deal with those bills, Uh, those transactions.

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Speaker 2: I'll take care of that for you type thing. I'm guessing.

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Speaker 2: the Toronto Raptors John Tay Porter and uh, but the

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Speaker 2: fact that they flagged it, I mean that's the most

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Speaker 2: important thing. Calvin Ridley was suspended for a year by

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Speaker 2: Roger Goodell. And even if you're just betting, you know,

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Speaker 2: fantasy football, you know, it doesn't matter. You can't gamble.

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Speaker 2: And here is a player, I mean, Johntay Porter is

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Speaker 2: a nobody and here he is betting, and it's that

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Speaker 2: he's going to have the under with his promp bets

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Speaker 2: something's up. And how you wouldn't think that? Where you go, Hey,

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Speaker 2: you know what, why don't we do five thousand dollars?

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Speaker 2: Everybody gets greedy? No, no, no, let's go for it.

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Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna know this. Nobody's going to be following the

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Speaker 2: raptors in the over under for my numbers. Yeah, they do.

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Speaker 2: They have to. It's their business. Jim in South Carolina, Hi, Jim,

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Speaker 7: Good morning, Dan? How are you today?

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Speaker 2: Great? Jim?

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Speaker 7: Okay, Well, I forgot to do his last week five

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Speaker 7: eight and a portly to twenty five. Okay, do you

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Speaker 7: see a crenario where maybe this the NFL rule? Did

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Speaker 7: they just go to that fourth and fifteen high side

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Speaker 7: play like the uh Springley pad last year? And also

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Speaker 2: I have no idea anymore. Uh. You know, I don't

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Speaker 2: tackle like they go, oh, finally got him where I

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Speaker 2: want in. You know, I get the horse collar, I

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Speaker 2: get it, but the hip drop is. Let's say, I'm

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Speaker 2: I don't know, five nine two hundred pounds and I'm

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Speaker 2: how can I get some leverage here? How can I

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Speaker 2: bring this guy down? I can't hit him there. I

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Speaker 2: can't hit him there. Now, I can't even do this.

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Speaker 2: It feels like you're going to be guiding players out

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Speaker 2: of bounds, like you're gonna wrap them up and you know,

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Speaker 2: hopefully they blow the whistle so you're not tackling somebody.

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Speaker 2: But just imagine if you're a defensive player and it

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Speaker 2: and then you're going to be tackling somebody, and you

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Speaker 2: a hip chop tackle. It's like the defensive player goes

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Speaker 8: something that you're workshopping all the time, odds are it's

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Speaker 8: not going to deliver in the moment. If something really

432
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Speaker 8: does strike me in the moment, I tend to go

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Speaker 8: with it because I feel like if it's something that

434
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Speaker 8: I find interesting, there's a pretty good chance that somebody

435
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Speaker 8: else out there watching the games it's going to find

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Speaker 8: it interesting too.

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Speaker 2: He's the voice of March Madness. By the way, how

438
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Speaker 2: does that sound now that you take over for Jim

439
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Speaker 2: nance What was your reaction when you heard that Jim

440
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Speaker 2: was going to stop doing March Madness.

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Speaker 8: It had been a few years in conversations, so there

442
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Speaker 8: wasn't one phone call that was the end all. It

443
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Speaker 8: was a bit of a process, and I think they

444
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Speaker 8: were working with Jim to figure out his timing and

445
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Speaker 8: what made the most sense Houston last year for him.

446
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Speaker 8: I know, on a personal level, really resonated to have

447
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Speaker 8: this full circle moment and do it in Houston, where

448
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Speaker 8: he attended college where his career began, so once it

449
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Speaker 8: was determined that would be the last one for him,

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Speaker 8: that's when it started to become a bit more real

451
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Speaker 8: for me. It's funny, Dan, because I've done so many games.

452
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Speaker 8: It's not like this is a new role in terms

453
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Speaker 8: of what my responsibilities are. Done the tournament for twenty

454
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Speaker 8: six years and I do probably about one hundred basketball

455
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Speaker 8: games a year between college, NBA, local, National, So I

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Speaker 8: just remind myself, do what you do. You're not going

457
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Speaker 8: to change what you do, how you approach it, how

458
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Speaker 8: you prepare the energy that you bring to the event.

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Speaker 8: Of course, the stage is a bit larger and it's vast,

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Speaker 8: and I'll be aware of it. I'll be aware of

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Speaker 8: my surroundings. But I would be really surprised if I

462
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Speaker 8: change the way that I do the game just because

463
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Speaker 8: it's the Final Four. If anything, I might end up

464
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Speaker 8: doing a little bit less because you have really nice

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Speaker 8: pictures and sound, and I think some of the ambient

466
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Speaker 8: noise is okay. So I I pulled back a little bit.

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Speaker 8: That might be more of a conscious decision than to

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Speaker 8: do more than I would normally do.

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Speaker 2: We're talking to Iron Eagle or Ian Eigel. He is

470
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Speaker 2: the either name play by play voice for Arch Madness.

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Speaker 2: So when you went in to the head of CBS

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Speaker 2: and you said it's either me or him. Wait, is

473
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: that how it played out? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: Very Jay Leno Conan O'Brien, just whatever happened in their

475
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Speaker 8: situation pretty much happened here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: These could be wonky situations, as we know on Comfortable Awkward.

478
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Speaker 8: This one has not been. And I think a lot

479
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Speaker 8: of it has to do with how many years I've

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Speaker 8: been there and the fact that I've worked literally with

481
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Speaker 8: everybody that works on this tournament in some form, being

482
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Speaker 8: with different crews through the years. This just isn't a

483
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Speaker 8: out of left field move, but it does mean something

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Speaker 8: in that the trust that CBS turner the NCAA. I

485
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Speaker 8: don't take that lightly. That's a real thing. When you

486
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Speaker 8: get that kind of decision, you realize that it's not

487
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Speaker 8: a snap decision and it was a lot of parties

488
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Speaker 8: involved to make this happen.

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Speaker 2: How often do you have the fan behind you who's

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Speaker 2: yelling stuff and at me or at the court, well

491
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Speaker 2: maybe at the court, or it affects you.

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Speaker 8: Uh, I put the headset on and not a whole

493
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Speaker 8: lot affects me. I am capable of going to another place.

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Speaker 8: If you take the headset off and you listen to

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Speaker 8: the sounds of the people around you. I could see

496
00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 8: getting swept away in the passion and in some of

497
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 8: the untoward attitude that we see. But I just lock in.

498
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Speaker 8: I put that headset on and and I'm just laser

499
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Speaker 8: focused on what I have to do.

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Speaker 2: Did you fill out a bracket? No? No.

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Speaker 8: Have not filled out a bracket since nineteen ninety eight.

502
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Speaker 8: The first year I did the NCAA tournament, I was

503
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Speaker 8: still working a lot at WFAN Radio and took a

504
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Speaker 8: lot of pride in the office pool and the bracket.

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Speaker 8: So that first year I fly out to Sacramento to

506
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Speaker 8: do the games. I have Maryland, I have Arizona, I

507
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 8: have Illinois, Illinois State, I have Utah State, I have

508
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Speaker 8: Nickel State. And I fill out my bracket and the

509
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Speaker 8: bottom line the screen for our net return has the

510
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 8: scores scrolling, and I find myself looking at the scores

511
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Speaker 8: as I'm calling the game and getting angry at the

512
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Speaker 8: fact that I'm getting these games wrong and legitimately angry,

513
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Speaker 8: and I start questioning myself. But dude, you realize you're

514
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 8: doing the NCAA tournament and you're worried that you blew

515
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Speaker 8: it in the East region and that Chris mad Dog

516
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Speaker 8: Russo is going to give you guff on Monday. Hey,

517
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Speaker 8: I am terrible pick, but you So that was it.

518
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Speaker 8: That was the last time I filled out of bracket.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, don't screw it up. We're all counting

520
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: on you. And then you go from this, then you're

521
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 2: hosting the Masters as well. Is that you're doing that.

522
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Speaker 8: Too, Butler Cabin, Yes, yes, Hey, one point, can I

523
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Speaker 8: make Jake Gillenhall You mentioned him yesterday Roadhouse. You have

524
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Speaker 8: a lot of IMDb credits. I was actually in Southpaw

525
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Speaker 8: as Reporter Number two with Jake, with Rachel McAdams, with

526
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Speaker 8: Fiddy scent. Antoine Fuqua was the director.

527
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we.

528
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Speaker 8: Come out, we do a rehearsal, we do the lines

529
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Speaker 8: on the page. Fuqua comes out and says, hey, is

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Speaker 8: that what you would say in a press conference? I

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Speaker 8: said no, He goes, all right, you just do it

532
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Speaker 8: your way and what you see in the film, that's

533
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Speaker 8: my way.

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Speaker 2: That's the Porter number two way. That role was originally

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Speaker 2: for Jim Nance And one again, you have done a

536
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Speaker 2: number on Jim Nance's career.

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Speaker 8: The fact that you have that minutia at your fingertips

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Speaker 8: and knew it.

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00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: Yes, loads me away. Oh yeah, yeah, well we're going

540
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: to be listening now, I know. Now we're really going

541
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Speaker 2: to be listening.

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Speaker 8: Yes, yes. My hope is when we do this next year. Yeah,

543
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Speaker 8: you'll have some calls for me, some calls that are

544
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Speaker 8: tailored just for me.

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Speaker 2: Todd, once again, would you give Iron Eagle just a

546
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 2: little more of Kevin Harlan?

547
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Speaker 8: The jazz are on a thirteen four run Philadelphia doesn't

548
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Speaker 8: know what to do.

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Speaker 2: They'll talk things over. This is the NBA on TNT.

550
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Speaker 8: Is Kevin in the studio?

551
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Speaker 2: Oh that's Todd, that's Todd. Yeah he's that good. Yeah, incredible,

552
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Speaker 2: freaking me out. Thank you. Ian see that that's Iron Eagle. CBS,

553
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 2: TNT and TBS and Yes Network. Oh my gosh, guys,

554
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 2: busy all right? Uh yeah, you screwed up with the

555
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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh I know.

556
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Speaker 5: And there's no Pittsburgh.

557
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: There is no cut tongue tied.

558
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Speaker 5: And I'm like, Pitts picks theatam, what am I doing?

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Speaker 2: Maybe a BA the Pittsburgh And then I said Zach

560
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Speaker 2: d He's a god. This is the NBA on TNT.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea what that. That doesn't make sense either,

562
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Speaker 2: because I think that's a college point. When we come

563
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: back more on the gambling situation with the Toronto Raptors.

564
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Speaker 2: Back after this.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

566
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Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

567
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568
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Speaker 2: David Purdham ESPN Sports Betting Industry Reporter and noticed that

570
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Speaker 2: there was something amiss with the Toronto Raptors John tay

571
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Speaker 2: H Porter and all of a sudden, you know he's

572
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Speaker 2: under investigation. And David joins us on the program. Summarize

573
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Speaker 2: the NBA story that you and Woj broke.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, John Jay Porter, kind of a backup center for

575
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Speaker 11: the Toronto Raptors, is being investigated by the NBA after

576
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Speaker 11: regularities in the betting market involving his player pops player

577
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Speaker 11: props are over under on points, scored, rebounds, assists, et cetera.

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Speaker 11: There were two instances that sportsbooks flagged, most recently one

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Speaker 11: just last Thursday against the Kings. Sportsbooks detected some unusual

580
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Speaker 11: interest I'm betting on board or a low profile guy

581
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Speaker 11: that doesn't usually attract a lot of betting interests. All

582
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Speaker 11: of a sudden, a lot of money was coming in

583
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Speaker 11: on the unders in his game. He played for roughly

584
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Speaker 11: five to seven minutes to conset yourself out, was ruled

585
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Speaker 11: out with flu like symptoms. So investigation continues.

586
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Speaker 2: Okay, how do you guys get tipped off that there's

587
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Speaker 2: something going on that the red flag sourcing?

588
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Speaker 11: Just like anything you know, been work covering this industry

589
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Speaker 11: for fifteen years. I know everybody from bookmakers to the

590
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Speaker 11: integrity monitors to league officials. So just like any other story,

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Speaker 11: he cats a tip, he kept win from the sources

592
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Speaker 11: that you've developed.

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Speaker 2: What did the NBA say when you gave them this story?

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Speaker 11: You know, Brian Windhorse with my colleagues and Wojes got

595
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 11: in there and they tried to get with them. It

596
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 11: was pretty quiet from the league for quite a while,

597
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Speaker 11: which was a little bit unusual for those two high

598
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Speaker 11: profile reporters. Eventually did they get back to us and

599
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Speaker 11: just said that they're looking into it.

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Speaker 2: What's the most you can bet on a prop bet

601
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Speaker 2: like this?

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Speaker 11: Great question, because it varies from book to book. And

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Speaker 11: from customer and a customer. But typically if you were

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Speaker 11: hired to sign up and try to bet a problem,

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Speaker 11: maybe we get one thousand dollars down, maybe two thousand.

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Speaker 11: To get much more than that, you're going to have

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Speaker 11: to be a VIP customer with special privileges. And that's

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Speaker 11: what really stood out about this one because customers came

609
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Speaker 11: in at one sportsbook trying to bet ten and twenty

610
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Speaker 11: thousand dollars on the unders on John tay Porter prop bets.

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Speaker 2: And do we know like johntay Porter's connection to this,

612
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: is he betting on himself? Did he tell friends, Hey,

613
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Speaker 2: I'm going to take myself out of the game, load

614
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Speaker 2: up on this. How do you think this plays out?

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Speaker 11: Definitely plausible scenarios. We do not have any information here

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Speaker 11: to verify any of that at this time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the curious part of this is you never

618
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Speaker 2: think that you're being noticed, and you know, there's so

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Speaker 2: much money that's gambling being gambled here, who's going to

620
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Speaker 2: notice prop bets on John tay Porter? And the problem

621
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Speaker 2: is we are going to notice because it is John

622
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Speaker 2: ta Porter. You know, Calvin Ridley probably thought nobody's going

623
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Speaker 2: to care about this everybody's gambling. What's the NBA's rules

624
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Speaker 2: on gambling?

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Speaker 11: So players league personnel are allowed to wager on other sports,

626
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Speaker 11: just not the NBA. They need to do it with

627
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Speaker 11: a regulated operator. It can't be using an offshore sports booker,

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Speaker 11: unlicensed regulator, and just can't be anywhere close to betting

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Speaker 11: on any kind of NBA event.

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Speaker 2: And also the precedent of this if you suspending for

631
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Speaker 2: a year or indefinitely or for a lifetime, if somebody

632
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Speaker 2: else who is a you know, noted player gets involved,

633
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Speaker 2: then you have to treat them the same way. So

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Speaker 2: I think it's going to be tricky. The commissioner might

635
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Speaker 2: be in a tight spot here since you covered gambling.

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Speaker 2: If you could ask Shoheio Tani or his interpreter one

637
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Speaker 2: question about that situation, what would it be?

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Speaker 11: That is a good question obviously answered about whether they

639
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Speaker 11: bet on baseball, says said no on that. I'm certainly

640
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 11: interested in how he was able to rack up as

641
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 11: much many losses as we can we understood was four

642
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Speaker 11: point five million dollars in gambling losses. You have to

643
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Speaker 11: be wagering probably close to eighty million, one hundred million

644
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Speaker 11: during that time to suffer those kind of losses because

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Speaker 11: you don't lose every bet, right, I mean, he is

646
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Speaker 11: impossible to lose every BET's possible to win every bet,

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Speaker 11: So you win some, you lose some. To get that

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Speaker 11: down that much, you're betting significantly am out in a

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Speaker 11: lot of volumes. So I would just want more details

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Speaker 11: on exactly his betting habits.

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Speaker 2: I was wondering about this with a illegal bookie. How

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Speaker 2: much latitude does he give him?

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Speaker 9: Sure?

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Speaker 2: Right? And don't you at some point want to know

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Speaker 2: can somebody cover these bets or the fact that he

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Speaker 2: is covering these bets with Otani's money then he doesn't

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Speaker 2: care about that?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean, if you are booking someone and you

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Speaker 11: know that they have a high profile person behind them,

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Speaker 11: you certainly would probably give them a little more leeway.

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Speaker 11: And I've talked a couple of off course sportsbooks a

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Speaker 11: deal and credit, and that's what they kind of said.

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Speaker 11: You know, hey, this guy was sending in US five

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Speaker 11: hundred thousand dollars five hundred thousand dollars here, he was losing,

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Speaker 11: he was paying, he was losing. We're going to give

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Speaker 11: him a little bit more rope than we normally would.

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Speaker 11: If Vid Purdham signed up and you know, only making

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Speaker 11: his little bit amount of money, his credit limit wouldn't

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Speaker 11: be nearly as much.

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Speaker 2: But do you think this illegal bookie knew that Shohy

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Speaker 2: was taking care of his.

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Speaker 11: I certainly think oh well taken care of He certainly

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Speaker 11: knew his relationship to Otani. He certainly knew that he

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Speaker 11: was the interpreter translator. Whether he knew that the money

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Speaker 11: was coming for Otani, you know, the name was on

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Speaker 11: the wire transfers that your ESPN reporters looked at. Whether

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Speaker 11: he thought that it was a Tani specifically paying for him,

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Speaker 11: I'm not aware of that, but he certainly knew the relationship.

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Speaker 2: What are the red flags that we should be aware

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Speaker 2: of when it comes to gambling? I tell my audience

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Speaker 2: I used to gamble. I don't gamble anymore, but everybody

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Speaker 2: thinks they can win. Can you win, David?

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Speaker 11: It's very, very, very difficult, especially in a long term.

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Speaker 11: There's a ceiling, and if you get good enough to win,

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Speaker 11: you start or able to beat the books on a

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Speaker 11: consistent basis. Well, guess what happens then? Now instead of

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Speaker 11: being able to bet a couple hundred dollars, you're limited

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Speaker 11: to only betting twenty dollars, so there's a really low

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Speaker 11: ceiling on betting. I would not recommend anybody try to

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Speaker 11: be a professional better. If you want to do it

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Speaker 11: for entertainment, you want to bet some disposable income, very

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Speaker 11: small amounts, I think that is fine. Trying to beat

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Speaker 11: the books is just a very very difficult and challenging lifestyle.

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Speaker 2: I know you're busy. Thanks for joining us, David, you

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Speaker 2: got it, Dan, thanks for having me. David Purdham ESPN

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Speaker 2: Sports Betting Industry reporter and the story is Johntay porter

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Speaker 2: and is over unders there. At one point I got

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Speaker 2: on a hot run with NFL games and my bookie

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Speaker 2: would change the betting lines when I called in because

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Speaker 2: a friend of mine would bet through the same bookie.

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Speaker 2: He got a different line than I did, so my

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Speaker 2: bookie would change because I'd gotten his attention. And he

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Speaker 2: admitted that to me later when I stopped gambling, and

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Speaker 2: he said, you had me scared a little bit, And

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Speaker 2: certainly the last bet that I placed that I lost

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Speaker 2: that was thirty three hundred dollars. He was nervous about

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Speaker 2: that because I had made six thousand and I was

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Speaker 2: going for the kill. Last bet I ever placed? All Right,

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Speaker 2: Final Hour coming up, more on the Dodgers situation and

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Speaker 2: Albert Breer. Monday morning, quarterback will join us from the

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Speaker 2: NFL owners meetings. Talk about the NFL kickoff plan has

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Speaker 2: just been passed and he'll give us an update on that.

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Speaker 2: Also a lot of talk about the first four picks

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Speaker 2: in the draft being quarterbacks depending on the order, but

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, Drake May, Jaden Daniels and yes JJ McCarthy.

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Speaker 2: Also the hip drop tackle. How are they going to

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Speaker 2: enforce that? So a few things to talk to him about.

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Speaker 2: And what's next the show Hey Otani situation we'll find

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Speaker 2: out right after this