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Speaker 1: It is the g Bag Nation here on the fan,

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Speaker 1: and it is time for our weekly conversation with Steven

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Speaker 1: Jones and a good morning to you, sir. How you doing?

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Speaker 1: Good morning, guys doing well? All right? Hey? Uh? First

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Speaker 1: first team defense? Who really looked outstanding? Uh last night?

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Speaker 1: What what what could you say about? How how you're

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Speaker 1: feeling about this defensive group of the season now approaching? Well,

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Speaker 1: I just think that they've really executed and they've done

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Speaker 1: you know, and really uh, you know, coming into form

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Speaker 1: pretty quickly in terms of what we could have expected

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Speaker 1: with some of the changes that we made, with with

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Speaker 1: Chris coming in and obviously melling his philosophy after losing

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Speaker 1: uh coach Eberflus that you know, he's really stepped in

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Speaker 1: and I think, really I've been a great match with

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Speaker 1: this year, obviously bringing a lot of uh you know,

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Speaker 1: the man to man press, uh, you know, in the secondary,

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Speaker 1: and we seem to be taken to that. Well. I

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Speaker 1: think we've got the right personnel forward obviously by Byron

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Speaker 1: Jones is stepped up big and of course Jadobe has

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Speaker 1: as well. And then a great battle there and the

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Speaker 1: Nickel in terms of how we cover those guys. And

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Speaker 1: then you know, I just think our journey and the

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Speaker 1: defensive line is really starting to pay off. You know,

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Speaker 1: We've been chipping away at it year after year in

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Speaker 1: terms of the resources that we put into that defensive line,

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Speaker 1: and they're showing up. So you know, a lot of

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Speaker 1: this work has been done with probably one of our

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Speaker 1: best players out there and Shine Lee. So you know,

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Speaker 1: as good as it's been, I do think it, you know,

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Speaker 1: can improve and I certainly will improve as we move forward. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: along with everything you said. And then you finish it

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Speaker 1: up there with Randy. But when Gregory comes flying around

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Speaker 1: that corner, I think at one point last night I

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Speaker 1: just had to sit there and go, hold on, now,

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Speaker 1: what exactly is possible with this defense? When he starts

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Speaker 1: thinking about Tank on one side and Randy on another,

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Speaker 1: and irving around the middle of the season, coming up

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Speaker 1: through the middle, there is it? You know, is it

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Speaker 1: getting to a point where you have to question whether

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Speaker 1: you know, this pass rush could really be one of

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Speaker 1: the big stories in football? Yeah, I mean obviously it

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Speaker 1: has that potential. Now there's some you know, we all know,

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Speaker 1: there's uh, you know, none of these are guarantees with

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Speaker 1: a couple of those guys because uh, you know, obviously

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Speaker 1: they've missed time for reasons and uh certainly, Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's what what you hope, hope to see out there

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Speaker 1: in a perfect world, is to see those three guys

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Speaker 1: in particular on the on the field at the same

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Speaker 1: time could be really special when you couple it with

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Speaker 1: what we already have with the you know, with the

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Speaker 1: Tyran Crawfords and the Tacos of the world, and young

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Speaker 1: Doran's armstrong coming on, and you know, you can you

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Speaker 1: can get real excited, real quickly. And then you know,

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Speaker 1: I think there's linebacking groups about as strong as uh,

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Speaker 1: we've had since I can remember. I mean, we've got

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Speaker 1: guys who play linebacker that you feel good about them

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Speaker 1: playing linebacker and not just being a special teams linebacker. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, basically one through six. And you saw you know,

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Speaker 1: number fifty three March stepping up last night. Both Wilson

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Speaker 1: and Joe Thomas have been strong all years, so you

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Speaker 1: know there's some depth there too, and you know, in general,

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Speaker 1: we feel really good about it. And it doesn't even

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Speaker 1: include Leyton, who we got in there. You know, in

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Speaker 1: our top three there with you know, with jay Len

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Speaker 1: and we feel really good about this defense, and I

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Speaker 1: think it can compliment what we're doing on offense, which

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Speaker 1: is as you well know, with that offensive line and Zeke.

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Speaker 1: We want to control the ball and we want to

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Speaker 1: run it well and possess the ball, and you know,

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Speaker 1: when they get too aggressive on the run up there,

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Speaker 1: then I think we've got the ability with Dak and

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Speaker 1: our receiving and tight end or to make place. So Stephen,

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Speaker 1: as I'm watching the game after the Randy Gregory sack,

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Speaker 1: and then Aason LOCKEONFA tried to ruin my night with

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Speaker 1: be more trouble ahead for Randy Gregory. Are you guys

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Speaker 1: unfortunately there's not good news. And uh, right now we

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Speaker 1: don't know of anything, but we do know, as I

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Speaker 1: said that, you know, uh, you know, these things are

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Speaker 1: Mental illness is real, addictions real, and we certainly understand that.

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Speaker 1: So Stephen, we've been really impressed with to Gregory on

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Speaker 1: the field. One of the groups that we haven't been

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Speaker 1: you're liking from any of these guys particularly, Well, I

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Speaker 1: just think in general, it's a it's gonna beat by committee.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we've got we've had a Hall of

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Speaker 1: Jason Whitton and no one's going to step up and say, boy,

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Speaker 1: here's comes to the next Jason Whitton. It's a you know,

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Speaker 1: getting it done by committee. And as we all know,

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Speaker 1: Jason Whitton ran ever tight end we ever drafted out

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Speaker 1: when I go down the line, I think all of

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Speaker 1: them have qualities. I mean, Jeff probably the most well

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Speaker 1: also uh you know, do what we need in the

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Speaker 1: receiving game. Uh, you know efficiently. Uh. And then I

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Speaker 1: You know, I think you'll see him as as people

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Speaker 1: And then of course Rico we've all seen the plays

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Speaker 1: do think they can be efficient. So over the years,

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Speaker 1: meant that Jason Garrett liked playing a lot of twelve

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Speaker 1: has looked good. You obviously have Williams and Cole Beasley

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Speaker 1: coming back, You've signed Alan Hearns. Is there a possibility

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Speaker 1: that an adjustment is made that if the tight ends

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Speaker 1: aren't performing early on during the season, that you try

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Speaker 1: to find more four wide receiver sets than three wide

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Speaker 1: if you know, depending on what we're going to do,

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Speaker 1: I think you'll see a mix which should make us

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Speaker 1: harder to game plan that we can do the full wides,

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Speaker 1: so you know, obviously a guy like Noel Brown, we

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Speaker 1: hadn't seen him, but you know, I was seeing some

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Speaker 1: of the people were saying, why would you keep that

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Speaker 1: many receivers if you know, if you're wanting to run

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Speaker 1: the ball like we are. Well, Noah Brown's one of

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Speaker 1: the more physical balls we have on this team as

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Speaker 1: and dig safeties out and I play very physical in

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Speaker 1: the run game, and at the same time as they

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Speaker 1: get you know, if they cheat too much that way,

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Speaker 1: then Noah certainly we believe, can make plays as a

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Speaker 1: there that we've missed in this particular preseason. But we

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Speaker 1: know it's there. It's just as we all know, these

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Speaker 1: hamstrings are tricky. We had them with all our young

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Speaker 1: certainly Noah's has taken time, but he's gaining on it

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Speaker 1: It's Steven Jones here with us for our weekly conversation

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Speaker 1: on your Home of the Cowboys. As far as the

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Speaker 1: topic of the preseason and quality of play out there,

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Speaker 1: people teams are becoming more and more sensitive to it

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Speaker 1: and complaining a little bit more about it. Do you

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Speaker 1: an eighteen game season, anything like that. Well, I think

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Speaker 1: we've gone to dynamic pricing in the NFL more and

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Speaker 1: more teams, I think most of them now we did

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Speaker 1: this year. I have gone to where they priced their ticket,

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Speaker 1: their preseason ticket, a lot less than their regular season tickets.

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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I think at the end of

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Speaker 1: you know, not maybe not for everybody, but you know,

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Speaker 1: it's so important for us to develop football players. That's

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Speaker 1: how young guys get on the field. You get to

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Speaker 1: see them play, and that's where you find you know,

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Speaker 1: the bottom half of your roster is in these games.

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Speaker 1: And well, there's some real battles going on out there.

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Speaker 1: And I know you're not getting to see the Zekes

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Speaker 1: and you know, the Docks in some of these games

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Speaker 1: and the shan Lee's, but you know, at the same time,

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Speaker 1: they're in a s and I think we're moving toward

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Speaker 1: pricing them right. And I think, you know, as I said,

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Speaker 1: it's a very important for us to develop players. I

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Speaker 1: think you know, you certainly see, uh, you know, the

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Speaker 1: a little queasy to put Dak and Zeke out there

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Speaker 1: when you're missing three of the highest paid offensive linemen

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Speaker 1: sudden they're in street clothes. You can understand why why

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Speaker 1: we might have some concern there. So you know, every

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Speaker 1: every year is different. I do think, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: you know, at our stadium, it's obviously not like a

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Speaker 1: Hopefully my plans are right now to spend a lot

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Speaker 1: So I'm still gonna have some really full football weekend

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Speaker 1: at it all right, can't wait and enjoy the ride, Steven,

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Speaker 1: take care, Appreciate you guests. Take care, he goes, Steven

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Speaker 1: Jones with us right here on your Home of the Cowboys.