WEBVTT - Second Date Update: 300 is the Magic Number

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<v Speaker 1>Second, if a date doesn't go quite according to plan,

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<v Speaker 1>could be a bad thing, but could be a good

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<v Speaker 1>thing too. Like one time, my plan going into the

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<v Speaker 1>night was to pay the entire dinner bill, but forgot

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<v Speaker 1>my wallet instead had to pivot, dined and dashed, ended

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<v Speaker 1>up getting the whole meal for free. That turned out

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<v Speaker 1>to be a good thing, and you found out your

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<v Speaker 1>date was a really good runner exactly. You know, athletic

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<v Speaker 1>athletic plans turns out to be good. And that was

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<v Speaker 1>the case for one of our listeners, Megan, whose night

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<v Speaker 1>got derailed in a good way and now she's needing

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<v Speaker 1>our help. What's up, Megan? How you doing? Hey? You

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<v Speaker 1>doing all right? A guy? We like people who can

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<v Speaker 1>turn you know, lemons into lemonade, despite Jeffrey's whole situation.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, as long as you make some vodka in

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<v Speaker 1>the lead, right, Yeah, So tell us about the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that you want us to call. What's his name? His

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<v Speaker 1>name is Curtis, And where'd you meet him that we

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<v Speaker 1>always needed to know? Well, we met online. Honestly, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the first first date but I've had since I broke

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<v Speaker 1>up with my long time relationship about Oh, we'll love

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<v Speaker 1>our a month ago. Oh okay, this is your rebound,

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting back out there that. Yeah. I was straight

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<v Speaker 1>up with him about this my first first date since

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<v Speaker 1>I've been out there and it's been a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what we did is we made a plan. Okay, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So he was okay with that. He was like, let's

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<v Speaker 1>plan everything out so you're not super nervous. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>good idea. What was the plan? The plan was just

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of go and see. But he turned up

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<v Speaker 1>to be a really really great guy. Go good. So

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<v Speaker 1>what did you guys do? We decided we're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>to the bar, gonna have a couple of drinks, gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go to a movie, and just kind of hang out.

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<v Speaker 1>So you went to a theater. It wasn't like a

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<v Speaker 1>Netflix and chill situation. Well no, because after we had

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<v Speaker 1>the drinks at the bar, we were like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>we just want to continue talking and you can't do

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<v Speaker 1>that at a movie theater. So we just stayed there.

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<v Speaker 1>So canceled the plan to go to the theater, just

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<v Speaker 1>stay and get more drunk at the bar. I like

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<v Speaker 1>that idea. That's a good plan. Beat, it's a better date,

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<v Speaker 1>to be honest, yeah. I mean it must have been

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<v Speaker 1>going pretty well. Oh it's going great. I mean we

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<v Speaker 1>got kind of tipsy, and I came back from the

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<v Speaker 1>restroom and I told him, Carnis, you've got to see

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<v Speaker 1>this picture that they've got in the restroom, oh, the

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<v Speaker 1>ladies room. So he was like, he was like what,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, come on, I will watch to

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<v Speaker 1>make sure no one comes in you, but you've got

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<v Speaker 1>to see this thing as hilarious. You know that he

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<v Speaker 1>thinks something else is going to happen in the bathroom

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<v Speaker 1>with you too, right, Maybe he's just like a restroom

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<v Speaker 1>art connoisseur. That's just his big passion. So he said okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like really reluctantly. So he was right. It was a trap.

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<v Speaker 1>I pulled him into the handicap stall and I started

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<v Speaker 1>to make out with him. You are delighted with yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at you. That's fine. It's good for you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're having fun. I mean was he into that? Oh yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it only lasted a couple of minutes because

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<v Speaker 1>he was like, look, we're in the ladies or let's

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<v Speaker 1>get out of here. Oh couple minutes, that's my record.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think we had a good time. How the

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<v Speaker 1>day end? I mean, you're you're making out, you go

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<v Speaker 1>back to your table and then what, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't at a table when we were at the bar.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, And I mean the bartender was really nice,

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess I might have been a little flirty

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<v Speaker 1>with him. With the bartender two, you're like, hey, bartender,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a picture in the bathroom that you have to

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I wasn't that flirty? Okay, what type of

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<v Speaker 1>flirty then? I mean just chit chatty and smiling and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, talking Okay, how you talk to bartenders? Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>But you felt like there was something more there. I mean, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>it could just be that Curtis is like, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>she's just coming back into her own after being out

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<v Speaker 1>of a relationship. You know, good for her. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just am not I'm looking for something more serious. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>did he ever talk to you about that? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we never really got into that. We were just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like, hey, this is going to be a casual,

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<v Speaker 1>fun vibe, and we never really talked about anything serious. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's good, casual fun. It's always good. Yeah. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter who you're with, I mean maybe you gave

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<v Speaker 1>off that vibe where that's all you were looking for

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<v Speaker 1>that night was just like a casual, fun night and

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to see him again. Yeah, and that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of how I went into the night. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>after talking with him and after the little makeout session,

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<v Speaker 1>he is so he hasn't texted or called or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you reached out to him? No, I mean I've

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<v Speaker 1>reached out to him several times, but he hasn't chexted

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<v Speaker 1>back or anything. And I just don't know if I

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<v Speaker 1>moved too fast or thanks. Maybe it was a flirting

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<v Speaker 1>with the bartender. I don't know. Yeah, I mean it

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<v Speaker 1>could be that, it could be something else. It could

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<v Speaker 1>be that Curtis was with the bartender that night too.

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<v Speaker 1>You moved in on his man. Oh, I really don't

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<v Speaker 1>think so. Well, He's like, look, she's a liar. There's

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<v Speaker 1>no art in their own. Let's not close the door

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<v Speaker 1>to any possibilities. We're gonna play a song, we'll come back,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll call Curtis, and we'll find out why he's not

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<v Speaker 1>calling you anymore when we do your second date update.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, okay, all right, hold on. It's another classic

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<v Speaker 1>modern dating tale of girl meets boy. Girl lies to

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<v Speaker 1>boy about a picture in the woman's bathroom, Girl makes

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<v Speaker 1>out with boy in the handicapped stall. Suddenly girl not

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<v Speaker 1>getting a call back from boy. We've seen it a

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<v Speaker 1>million times. Come on, seriously, now it's the million and

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<v Speaker 1>one time because it's happened to one of our listeners, Megan,

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<v Speaker 1>after she went out with a guy named Curtis and

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<v Speaker 1>now he's ghosting. Have you ever thought that maybe he's

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<v Speaker 1>a rule follower and it was morally corrupt for him

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<v Speaker 1>to use the handicap stall. Oh, that's a good point,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not bother you, Brooke. I mean, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to pick a stall, let's just stand on the

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<v Speaker 1>toilet of the regular stall. There was just a line

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<v Speaker 1>in wheelchairs outside of the stall waiting to get it.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be my luck, though, Jeffrey, is that what

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<v Speaker 1>happened Megan? No, not at all. But I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if that was his issue, it might have been okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Actually be happy if that was it. If he was

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<v Speaker 1>that good of a guy, let him go. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>here's the thing, Megan. If this doesn't work out, you

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<v Speaker 1>are fresh out of a big relationship. We will find

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<v Speaker 1>you somebody else on the text board or something, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and you got a bathroom trick that works, so yeah, score,

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<v Speaker 1>Or you could just fall back into that old relationship again, Jeffrey,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a backup. That is a cycle. I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to see if you know, it's maybe something stupid

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<v Speaker 1>I did or what I really want to try and

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<v Speaker 1>make this work. He's pretty great. Okay, Well let's find out.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to dial his number right now, try and

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<v Speaker 1>get your second date update? You ready? Ready? Okay, here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. Hello. Hey, I'm looking for Curtis. This is Curtis. Hey, Curtis,

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing? Man? My name is Jeff from the

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<v Speaker 1>radio show Brooke and Jeffrey in the Morning. No way,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, you listen. Okay, see Jeffrey, somebody recognized you.

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<v Speaker 1>You listen to the show. Uh no, but I know

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who does. Okay, I kind of that's also, jeff

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<v Speaker 1>That's cool. Thank them. Well, we're doing a segment on

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<v Speaker 1>our show called a second date Update. Yeah I figured

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<v Speaker 1>that too. Oh oh are you sure you figured? Megan

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<v Speaker 1>messaged me that this was going to be happening, So

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<v Speaker 1>she warned you that we were going to call I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if she knew for sure that I saw

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<v Speaker 1>her message, but yeah, she said this is something that

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<v Speaker 1>she might try to do to contact me. Are you

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<v Speaker 1>saying like she messaged you like five minutes ago right

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<v Speaker 1>before we called her. This was days ago that she

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<v Speaker 1>warned you this might happen. It's more like, when isn't

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<v Speaker 1>she messaging me? Oh? Wait a minute, she didn't say that.

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<v Speaker 1>She said she had texted you a couple of times

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<v Speaker 1>and hadn't heard back after your guys's date at the bar. No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that was happening. How many How many texts are we talking?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say around three hundred? Wow, Oh that's it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I was worried for a second. It's only three is

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<v Speaker 1>there to say? Three times? How have you not blocked her?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean honestly, well, there's really no point, as you

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<v Speaker 1>can see, like she's gonna try to contact me by

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<v Speaker 1>any means. All right, Well, before we talk about why

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<v Speaker 1>this is happening, let's just refocus on the date for

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<v Speaker 1>a second, because Curtis, we spoke with Megan, and from

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<v Speaker 1>her perspective, she said it went really well. She seemed

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<v Speaker 1>so normal. Yeah. No, that part of it is pretty true.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it did go pretty well. So when you ended

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<v Speaker 1>the date, right, she said, you guys took to Uber's home.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you have plans to call her and go out again? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>No at that point. Yeah, I had a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have loved to go out again for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>What happened, Yeah, why did she send you so many texts?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. So what happened is I went home,

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<v Speaker 1>I took a shower, came out of the shower, and

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<v Speaker 1>there was about four text from her, and then so

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<v Speaker 1>I responded, yeah, you had a great night, thanks, And

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<v Speaker 1>so I went to bed. When you're just done with

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<v Speaker 1>the dates, sometimes it is like, hey, I had a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fun. Sorry if I'm talking too much, not horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you not respond to those initial four text he said,

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<v Speaker 1>he did? He did, Yeah I did. I said, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a lot of fun, and yeah, hopefully we

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<v Speaker 1>can do it again, okay. And then and then you

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<v Speaker 1>woke up the next morning, you went to bed, you

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<v Speaker 1>woke up the next morning, then what Then there was

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<v Speaker 1>about another twenty text messages saying what just saying what

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<v Speaker 1>a good time she had, and then sorry for messaging

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<v Speaker 1>you so late. I hope you can get this, hope

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<v Speaker 1>things like that. It sounds like she doesn't know how

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<v Speaker 1>to put the phone down. Yeah, it sounds like she

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<v Speaker 1>really likes you though doesn't or she just an obsessive

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<v Speaker 1>person that means really like someone's healthy. Yeah. So when

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<v Speaker 1>I quit responding, it kind of made the snowball effect.

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<v Speaker 1>The twenty messages became sixty messages, which became two hundred messages.

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<v Speaker 1>It just got a real crazy, real quick oh stressed,

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<v Speaker 1>and you just never told her anything after that. You

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<v Speaker 1>just let it snowball and continue to this point, I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't keep up with one to pick which one to

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<v Speaker 1>respond to. So no, man, you have such a good

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<v Speaker 1>attitude about this right now I would be freaked out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad we're not doing textual healing right now.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where people through via text message, Curtis, if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't listen. So yeah, wow, this one's much easier because

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<v Speaker 1>instead of going with text, we just have the person

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<v Speaker 1>jump on the phone and let you know that they've

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<v Speaker 1>been on the other line listening this entire time and

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk to you. Much less messy. Knew this,

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah sorry, Curtis. Yeah, yeah, I figured this was going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen too, honestly, Okay, okay, Megan, did you warn

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<v Speaker 1>him that this that you were waiting on the other

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<v Speaker 1>line this whole time? Did you text him during this conversation? No?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. But I'm really surprised. I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>you mean embarrassed, And that's okay. What's surprising, honest Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? No? I mean we we were

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<v Speaker 1>just like chit chatting and stuff, and I was just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to keep the conversation going. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 1>it seems so weird about it. I mean, there's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>the hit happening on your end. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>the chat has happened to Look, I'll defend you a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. I'm a flurry texter, we can call it.

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<v Speaker 1>Where you're text and flurries. It's like, yeah, hey, send,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you saying? Yeah? Seven? Though you stop, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't keep going forever and ever? And you want you

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<v Speaker 1>want to leave the person on the other end of

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<v Speaker 1>the text message wanting more, right, Like you want to

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<v Speaker 1>leave him hanging, like you have other things going on

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<v Speaker 1>in your life, the game, Like what happened? Were you

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<v Speaker 1>just sitting staring at your phone like what's going through

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<v Speaker 1>your head during this time. I don't know. I just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk to him, like you know, as if

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<v Speaker 1>we were just sitting together at the bar, talking back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth. It was just whatever came into my head.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why you all think that's so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>They are like off, I mean, yeah, he's yeah. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Curtis is on the phone right now. Why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>guys talk at this moment. This is the perfect opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to have a discussion. Sure, you know the all the

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<v Speaker 1>messaging was excessive, but there's really no point of blocking

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<v Speaker 1>your number because I know that you keep messaging me

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<v Speaker 1>from other people's phones too, and all these different numbers.

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<v Speaker 1>The last part. No, no, I have multiple phones. I

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<v Speaker 1>have a phone for work, I have my private phone,

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<v Speaker 1>and I text from both phones. For all she knows,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not getting the text. Okay, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are defending this behavior. Curtis. Please step in

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<v Speaker 1>here and tell her what your boundaries to defend the

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<v Speaker 1>person that actually listens to our show, person that's never

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<v Speaker 1>heard of us before my legan side. You could be great,

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<v Speaker 1>but you need to tone it down. Curtis. You got

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<v Speaker 1>to tell her your boundaries right now, so all the

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<v Speaker 1>people texting them, because she obviously is not getting it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if people want to talk to me, he

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<v Speaker 1>would just say, so, Megan, please stop texting me again?

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<v Speaker 1>Say it again, Curtis, would you pretty pretty please stop

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<v Speaker 1>texting me? Don't do you get it? Megan? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>does that mean you don't want to talk to me

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<v Speaker 1>at all? I want to be just really clear about this.

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<v Speaker 1>You just don't want to talk to me or see me.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have to come out and say that. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm saying. I don't know if we should

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<v Speaker 1>talk anymore. You don't know or you know, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>being clear with me. I'm trying to be nice. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure of what you mean. You drop nice. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna have to be brutal here, Curtis. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to change my number. Guys, Oh say

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<v Speaker 1>it likely? Oh wow? See this is why I keep

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<v Speaker 1>talking and I'm not getting a clear answer, And oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, she needs just text our text board anytime

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you want to text Curtis, Okay, forward

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<v Speaker 1>it to him. I mean, you're a great guy, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're just not really great at communication. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a good lesson guys text back, be better communicators and

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<v Speaker 1>also be better listeners, like Curtis, did you hear what

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<v Speaker 1>she said? Okay, she's breaking up with you. She's not

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<v Speaker 1>interested in seeing you because you don't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>communicate properly. Damn there go working very in the morning.