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Speaker 1: swap all my life. I've been grinding in all my life. Hello,

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Speaker 1: welcome to another edition of Club Sha Shade. I am

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Speaker 1: your whole shout in sharp. I'm also the proprietor of

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Speaker 1: Club Sha Shade and the lady that stopping by needs

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Speaker 1: no introduction apps. Actually, she is the first female to

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Speaker 1: thank you for stopping by. She's a Grammy Award winning songwriter,

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Speaker 1: TV personality executive producer, actress, entrepreneur, rest to run tour.

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Speaker 1: She's the first black woman to win an a SCAP

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Speaker 1: Candy Burrus Tucker damn all of that, Well, thank you,

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Speaker 1: and I'm the first plumbing to be in Give it

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Speaker 1: All Up Together, Give it Up. You are the first.

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Speaker 1: If you ever heard I love being the first you,

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Speaker 1: club shaha, I'm talking about without hesitation? He said, Candy. Who.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like Candy because I'm like no, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: That's what I said when he said you should have

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Speaker 1: stopping by. Well, thanks. I think the biggest thing is Candy.

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Speaker 1: you still do music. I'm sure you're still right, but

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Speaker 1: They had an argument and then all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I think when it

424
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 1: was said to the world, because, like I said, like,

425
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't like an open thing right right when it

426
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,879
Speaker 1: was said to the world, it was said like, oh,

427
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 1: she was trying to you know, kick it with him

428
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,360
Speaker 1: to get on, and it's just kind of like, no,

429
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 1: that don't make sense. We had already did two albums.

430
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:39,479
Speaker 1: I had already been on leading on multiple songs, So no, like,

431
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 1: don't try to make it seem like it was that.

432
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: So I feel like people, as a woman, it's we

433
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 1: can definitely make the decision of who we want to

434
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 1: share ourselves with, correct, right, So it doesn't have to

435
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: be oh, I'm trying to get put on. I was

436
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: on right, you know what I mean? And I and

437
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,440
Speaker 1: I'm very clear about that, like I'm just it's very

438
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: much like I'm about my business, right, you know. And

439
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,480
Speaker 1: you know he didn't like the narrative that was being

440
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: put out a boy candy, Yeah, I did not like

441
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: that at all then. But because also the narrative came

442
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: later and it wasn't even just that, it was the

443
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 1: other things that were said along with it that really

444
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: made it like, wait, what so have you had a

445
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 1: full opportunity to set the record straight? Is the record straight?

446
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:27,920
Speaker 1: Now as far as what transpired, how all with about

447
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,880
Speaker 1: It's not like it was because you know they're gonna

448
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 1: portray it. It was probably portrayed one way. She did

449
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: like you said, she did this to come up, YadA, YadA, YadA,

450
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 1: and you like with hold on, I already got albums.

451
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,800
Speaker 1: I had two albums. What do you mean come up? Yeah,

452
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: I wasn't fledgling. I wasn't somebody that was unsigned. Right Well,

453
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: I never really felt like I had to clear up

454
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 1: anything out of the situation with Germaine. Right, I didn't

455
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 1: feel like I had to clear that up. I mean,

456
00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: you know right that it wasn't there it was. I mean,

457
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,119
Speaker 1: I don't know where other questions you gotta ask. I

458
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 1: don't want to head go ahead going, But basically, you know,

459
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: obviously we worked together during that time period after our

460
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: group has separated, you know, after third album, right, and

461
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: we had been like not a group for a few

462
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: years before my group member got on the radio because

463
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: she was upset about some things, yes, but not just that.

464
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 1: She added some more bags to it, right well, the negativity. Okay,

465
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: so the part that I felt like for a long

466
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: time wasn't clear. And people try to run with. She

467
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: was like, oh, Candy, you know, was having sex with

468
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,440
Speaker 1: you man, and and she tried to make it seem

469
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: like that was the reason why the group broke up,

470
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 1: and that was not That was the first thing. And

471
00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: then the other thing was, yeah, well we I stopped

472
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: talking to him for a decade, but we're friends, okay,

473
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,120
Speaker 1: okay for friends again anyway. But then the other part

474
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: was that she added to it, was that she tried

475
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, she's discrewed his daddy or something like that.

476
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: That was way over the top. And and I was

477
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: like really like hurt and upset by the whole situation

478
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 1: because you know, a long time she and I had

479
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,639
Speaker 1: a great friendship. And then it's just like, I, I

480
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 1: understand we're no longer like working together like we used to,

481
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: but why would you do that? Like and but I

482
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: never tried to clear up publicly when she said at

483
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 1: that time, but that rumor lingered for years, and so

484
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: that was what was frustrating to me. It wasn't a

485
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: part about Jermaine. It was the other part because it's

486
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: just like like, dang, I gotta you gotta make it

487
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: say it like I was just like going through the

488
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 1: family hell. You know, I didn't say that that's what

489
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: she said, but I mean we we cleared it up.

490
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: I guess when we got back together and did that

491
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 1: the first reality show that our group had, you know,

492
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 1: she cleared it up somewhat. Then there are still some

493
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: other things that I felt like, we're never said that.

494
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: It would have made it even more like y'all would

495
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: be like what. But I don't feel the need to

496
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: clear all those other things up or to add any

497
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: fuel to the fire. I just felt like, you know,

498
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: when she basically let it be known that what she

499
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: said wasn't true, then I was like, Okay, I'm just

500
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,000
Speaker 1: gonna go. Yeah, I'm ana let it go. So where

501
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: were you when you heard that? Did somebody come to

502
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 1: you in the street? No, you know how I heard it.

503
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: This is the craziest thing. Me and my friend rashidaka

504
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: the rapper Rashida Thiss on level hip hop. Okay, right,

505
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: we were doing a project at the time. It was

506
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 1: we was working on something and we were in the

507
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: studio and a family friend sent me the link while

508
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: I was sitting and I sat there and I listened

509
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,719
Speaker 1: to it, and what bothered me was it was like

510
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: an eighteen minute long interview. Wow, And the whole eighteen

511
00:26:55,080 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: minutes she was dogging me out, and I cried. I

512
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: was like, whoa, you know what I'm saying. It was

513
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: very hurtful. Did you know she felt had these feelings

514
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 1: towards you? Now I didn't know that. I mean the

515
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: thing about it was, I think, like I said, you know,

516
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: it bothered you. Now you tearing up a little bit? Now,

517
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean that really? Can we get some cats?

518
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: I mean it's not coming down, no, But I'm just

519
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: saying that because it hurts you. You were a group,

520
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 1: y'all together we sis, right, But now mind you, we

521
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: were separate for a time. So anyway, what happened was

522
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,639
Speaker 1: at that time, Jermaine had just put out a book, right,

523
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 1: and in the book he barely talked about her, or

524
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:41,959
Speaker 1: we don't really say that much about us. But I

525
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 1: think in there he said some things about her sister

526
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: getting the big head or something. And that's why the

527
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 1: group basically defeated themselves, right, because we didn't break up

528
00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: because of an album, not well whatever. But she didn't

529
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: like what he said about her sister, and so I

530
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,320
Speaker 1: she called herself. I didn't say it but I always

531
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,239
Speaker 1: I am always the one to catch the heat for

532
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:10,199
Speaker 1: some reason. Right. So anyway, that when that book came out,

533
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: like the next day or you know, within that period

534
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: of time, she went on the radio to do the interview,

535
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: calling herself clearing up that it was not my sister

536
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: the real reason why the group broke up. But now

537
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,879
Speaker 1: she says why the real reason why the group broke up.

538
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: But back then she was defending you know, her sister,

539
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: I guess, right, But at the same time, like to

540
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: be clear, I am very serious about like I said,

541
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: about my work, my accomplishment, right, I'm like a person

542
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,480
Speaker 1: who likes accomplishments, right, right, So it's not always about

543
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: the money. But you don't want people you don't short

544
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: change my accomplishments exactly. So that's I mean, it was

545
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: everything she said was hurtful, obviously, but it was just

546
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,959
Speaker 1: like I think some of the things that the interview

547
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: was like so when she was like, yeah, Candy did this,

548
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: and she's like, you mean Candy the one who writing

549
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: all the song? Well we all right, it was stuff

550
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: like that. I was like with that, and then it

551
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: would be like, well, you mean Candy wrote this is

552
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: this is I mean, we all do that. Like it

553
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: was just like everything said or and it was just

554
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: like trying to make it something like everything that I

555
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: had done had been because of a man or because

556
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,959
Speaker 1: of somebody that I got hooked up with or whatever,

557
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: which no, right, I go get the bag and if

558
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: I decide right later on that we can hook up,

559
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: then we can look up. But I'm gonna get that

560
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: money to hurt first. I'm gonna get the bag first.

561
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make my credit first, I'm gonna do all that,

562
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 1: and then I just well, I'm married now, so all

563
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter. Okay, Okay, So I'm saying back when

564
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: I was a single woman, okay, I was very much

565
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 1: so about you know, accomplishing on my goals. And I

566
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: don't like for you, you know, to go back to

567
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: what you were saying about the way people look at

568
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: women in business. When a man, you know, has, say,

569
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: has a relationship with somebody that he works with, people

570
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: don't say, oh, well, the only reason why he met

571
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: it there is because he got with a girl. You know,

572
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: they are always gonna say that about the woman, which

573
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: is so annoying. That's annoying. You you mentioned that and

574
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: the way I got it, wrote wrote down here because

575
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to be distasteful. Is that escape? You're

576
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: at the top of your game and you took a hiatus? Yeah,

577
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: we broke up. I want to be different. No, no, no,

578
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: I always felt like it was a break up. The

579
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: reason why I say it was a hiatus, right, because

580
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 1: you want me to go through the whole YEA, hey

581
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: you here, I got you were here. Okay. So we were,

582
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, doing really good first album, second album or whatever,

583
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: the last time to start making some money. Now you

584
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: say the first make no money. Yeah, we was trying

585
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: to go get that bridge for the third album. Okay.

586
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: So while we were actually on a tour when we

587
00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,239
Speaker 1: were supposed to start these negotiation. So we was on

588
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: a tour and we would started hearing rumors on the

589
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: tour that our group member, Tasha, yeah, whats going solo?

590
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: So basically she started, you know, she had said it

591
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 1: to some other people her team had been it was whispers.

592
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 1: So we asked her about it, like, yo, like, you

593
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: supposed we want a solo, you know, and she's like,

594
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: well no, but when I do go, So I'm gonna

595
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: let y'all know. It was that type of Yes, it

596
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: was that type of so it was like, okay, but

597
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: once again, you have to understand the dynamics of our

598
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: group growing up. She was the oldest, right, I'm the youngest.

599
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: We all me and her always bumped head, her sister

600
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: always side on her and did was she whatever the

601
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: old her sister want to do tiny kind of rise

602
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: the fence most of the time. So it's like always

603
00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: it always felt like them again, yeah, all the time.

604
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: It was all the time. And so but in this situation,

605
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: it kind of felt like, you know, she was separating

606
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: herself a little bit, right, you know. And at that year,

607
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 1: I had just bought my house, So I'm nineteen. I

608
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: had just got a house. Now you know, I still

609
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: had payments that right, So we you know, we supposed

610
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 1: to be negotiating, and then it came back that she

611
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 1: had basically had an offer from a label, I guess

612
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: because they have been shopping the deal within the Sony

613
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: system because you had you had to stay, and she

614
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: had an offer, and so the lawyer basically was trying

615
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: to say, well, she's not gonna do the third album

616
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: unless y'all allow her to do her solo project and

617
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: That's when it became an issue for us because I'm like,

618
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 1: you know, they won't. That was messing up our money, right,

619
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 1: because we're trying to negotiate this big money and they're like, wait,

620
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: we don't even know if y'all gonna stay together and

621
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: all this other kind of stuff. They used that as

622
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 1: an opportunity to take us what we were worth, right sure,

623
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: So anyway, it really really became a problem. I remember

624
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: the days. Then she came to sit us down to

625
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: talk about it full shot. She's gonna be mad at

626
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: me for telling the story about me, tell you tell it.

627
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: We had a break from the tour. It was like

628
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 1: a two week break, so for that week we went

629
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: to change up our show, okay me to making tiny.

630
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: We had rehearsals with the choreographers. Tasha didn't come to

631
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: not one rehearsal until the second to the last day.

632
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: So she came in there. She didn't even try to

633
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: learn anything. She said, I'm just gonna watch and she

634
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: was like, hold on here, the group, what you be up?

635
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: She said, we ain't doing that, we ain't doing that,

636
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: and we ain't doing that now, mind you. This is

637
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: what we ended up putt together. All this week. She

638
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: ain't came here for She's just basically shut down everything

639
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: we were talking about doing. And then she was like,

640
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: when we have when we finished this rehearsal, I'm gonna

641
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: talk to y'all or whatever. So it's like, okay, so

642
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: we already and our feelings because we like she couldn't

643
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: shut down everything. She wasn't even here right, we go,

644
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: we sit down, we're sitting in a circle, and she says, no,

645
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: we're in a chair. We're chairs. We're chairs. Okay. She

646
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,400
Speaker 1: was just like, yeah, so I told y'all I was

647
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: gonna let y'all know whenever I decided to go solo.

648
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: While I'm letting y'all know, you know, it's all about

649
00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 1: me right now. So and oh no, she said, Tamika

650
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: and Tiny, y'all can go have more babies, and uh, Candy,

651
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: you can do your little modeling thing or whatever it

652
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 1: is you wanna do. But I'm gonna go solo because

653
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: it's all about me right now. She put it like that, yes,

654
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: and our dumb asses was like sitting there like like speechless, right,

655
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? And we I think she

656
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,439
Speaker 1: just caught us so off guard. With the way she's

657
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: send it. It was just so disrespectful now, to be honest,

658
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: down to to her credit, it was frustrating. On the

659
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,720
Speaker 1: first album, Snika got pregnant during as we were starting

660
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 1: to blow up, right, which became a big issue, right,

661
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 1: you know, back then it was popular to have albums

662
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 1: out and you're pregnant, right, you know, right. But because

663
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: you know she did that on the first album, then

664
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: Tiny was like anything, you know, So she ended up

665
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,360
Speaker 1: having a baby on the second album. So what happened.

666
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: I'm just no, I want my bag so anyway, So anyway,

667
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: but to her point, you know, I guess that's why

668
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: she felt that way. Okay, okay, if I'm gonna give

669
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: her any pass, okay, But to me, I had got

670
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 1: like this opportunity to do this. Oh yeah, I'm as

671
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: They still use their hair colored buck box to this day,

672
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: on the Optimum Hair Color box, and they had me

673
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: as one of the faces on the box. So she

674
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, yea little modeling thing, whatever it is,

675
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: you want to do, little little modeling bay. So anyway,

676
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: when she said that, I was just like I said,

677
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 1: I sat there for a second, okay, because I was

678
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: caught up guard. Yeah, But then I got gathered my

679
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: thoughts and I was like, all right, well, we'll just

680
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 1: do the album without you, and she was like, well,

681
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: I didn't mean that I was gonna do the album

682
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: without you, And you know, I was just saying, y'all

683
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,919
Speaker 1: can take a break. Why I did my thing now,

684
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: I felt like because we've had arguments in them before

685
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: where she would say, you know, crazy stuff, I just

686
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 1: felt like, if she does leave and blow up, she

687
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: ain't coming back no period. So I was just like,

688
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: we can't just be sitting around waiting, waiting. So anyway,

689
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 1: what ended up happening. You know, we start the three

690
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: of us talking and we was like, come on, we

691
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 1: should just tell Jamane let us do the album. Let

692
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 1: her do what she wanna do, let us do the

693
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: album whatever. We're getting ready to go to that now.

694
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: We were all on the same page, right, three of us.

695
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: We get to the meeting and tiny little to tell

696
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: this third and Tamika shows up with Tasha and they

697
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: got these gray wigs on and were sitting to la.

698
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: We knew that was about to be be some bullshit, Like

699
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: I didn't. We supposed to be meeting with Jamaine and

700
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: we go in there with Jermin and so Jermane's like

701
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: what's up, you know whatever, and to me because like, well,

702
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: you know, can't you just let us wait on my

703
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: sister give us some money so we could just sit

704
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: and wait on my sister do her thing. Oh I

705
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: was hot, Okay, I think No, I mean I didn't

706
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: go off because basically, at that point, you have made

707
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: us look stupid in front of our label head right

708
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: here right, you know what I'm saying, because we would

709
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 1: have told him we want to meet about going ahead

710
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: and matching weis you knew it was about to be Spuicio.

711
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: But anyway, at that point, you know, the conversation of

712
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 1: us going ahead and doing that album was just a

713
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: mute point, right, And so what was decided was they

714
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 1: basically let Tasha know that, you know, she could do

715
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: a solo project, but it would be after the third album,

716
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: and she was supposed to do it with So So

717
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: Deaf and not the other company that had gave her

718
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: an offer. Right, So we went into our third album

719
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: knowing that the group was going on high. So that's

720
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: why I say that, okay, because she didn't give us

721
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:22,439
Speaker 1: a complete answer. I'm done, right, She just said like, yeah,

722
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: I want you all to wait while. Yeah, so little project. Wow,

723
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying. I do. I do get

724
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Okay, for long story, I'm sorry, it's

725
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: all good. Nineteen years old, the group splits up, but

726
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: it didn't split. Yes, okay, you're working on the third house. Yeah,

727
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 1: you take a break. You paused it. We paused, I

728
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: guess after the third album. So where was I was?

729
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: Twenty one? You get your first you buy your first house,

730
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: your purchase I mean nineteen year old teenage or twenty

731
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: one years old. Not very many twenty one year old

732
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: twenty one year olds purchase house. So you're feeling good, like, okay, okay,

733
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: the group you know we're taking the High eightus. But

734
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 1: I got it. I'm good. I got some bread. No, No,

735
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 1: what I told you was I bought my house. I

736
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: put it down payment on it. Let's be clear, it

737
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 1: wouldn't pay it off, right, So I did that when

738
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 1: I was nineteen, before I knew we was taking a Hiati. Okay,

739
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: So when I found out we was taking a Hiati,

740
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: I was panicking, right because I've always been very much

741
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: about my money, and back then I used to remember,

742
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: we used to have check books. Yea. I used to

743
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: balance my thing down to the penny, right, okay, so

744
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 1: I knew exactly how much my bills were whatever. So

745
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: when she started doing all that, I was like, oh, no,

746
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: like this with what I'm gonna do. So I was stressing, right,

747
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: you know. I That's when I told Tiny, I'm like, Yo,

748
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: she gonna do her thing me and you gotta. We

749
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: gotta figure out what we gonna do. So why don't

750
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: we start working on another project. We should write and

751
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: you know, make demos and then you know, show what

752
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: we would want our project to be. Like, let's not

753
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 1: go and try to get a deal. Let's do songs

754
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: and then take it to the label and be like, yo,

755
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: this is right what we can do. So she and

756
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 1: I started doing that, but it was while we were

757
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: working on the third album, right, you know what I'm saying, right,

758
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: Because my whole thing is we know after this third album, Yeah,

759
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 1: we don't know what's happening. So that's how we end

760
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: up starting writing with different people. And no scrubs came

761
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: about because it was a demo for Tiny and I.

762
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: You wrote that, y'all, you wrote that's all right, but

763
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: you ended up giving it to you were disappointed with No,

764
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: I want disappointed you were disappointed? No, But I mean

765
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: to be clear, man, Tiny had a whole bunch of

766
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: hot records at the right time, Okay, She and I.

767
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: I mean I liked the song, right, but I always

768
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: wanted to be a writer and write for other artists,

769
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: but I didn't know how to go about it, okay.

770
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: And so when somebody had uh sorry shout out to you.

771
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: Uh he was working with the label we had, He

772
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: had played it for La Reid and he wanted the

773
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 1: song for TLCY. I was just like, Okay, let him

774
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 1: have it. Because our manager manager that we was working

775
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 1: with at the time, was like, yeah, I like it,

776
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: but it's not as good as y'all other songs. And

777
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: I always felt like, yeah, I could write another one, right,

778
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,479
Speaker 1: That's just how I was. I was like, yeah, I'll

779
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,879
Speaker 1: write another one, let them have that. But when it blew,

780
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: did you know it was gonna do that? No? The anthem, now,

781
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: I don't. I didn't know I was gonna do that.

782
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 1: But let's also remember, I feel like a song it

783
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 1: goes to who was supposed to go to? Okay, and

784
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: I feel like TLC definitely took it to where I

785
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: need to go, right. I remember the day I saw

786
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 1: La Read at this party. He was like, I'm gonna

787
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,760
Speaker 1: make that song, this song, the biggest song in your career.

788
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, right, because Mina Jew Escape we

789
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: had hit It's right, So I'm like, okay, Like I

790
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a disrespectable in my mind, I was like, yeah,

791
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: all right, right, But he went lying, So what what

792
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: gives you greatest satisfaction? Is it writing or was it

793
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: like Escape? You actually sing in the vocals. You may

794
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: think I'm full of it, but I love both. I

795
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: love being able to put a hit on another artist, right.

796
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: I feel like when I started writing for other artists,

797
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: that's when I really started getting a different type of

798
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: respect amongst my peers in the industry. You know. I

799
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: feel like, say, for instance, all the record labels come

800
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: together for those different conventions, right, and they may see

801
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: you and they'd be like, oh, hey, how you doing

802
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: that girl from Escape? Whatever? You know, whatever. But when

803
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: you're that hot writer or that hot producer that right

804
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 1: hits for everybody, everybody's trying candy. It used to be

805
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: that girl from Escape, but then it became king, hey, Candy,

806
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 1: how are you? And it was people that I didn't

807
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: even think knew me like that that we're trying to

808
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: connect then all I need you to work on this

809
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 1: for me or work on that. So it gave me

810
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: a different type of like okay. And then that check

811
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: was that check was heating way different and I was

812
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: bad because I was like, we should have been writing

813
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: more on project, like what is this? You know? Right?

814
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,760
Speaker 1: But because like having the little five percent here or whatever,

815
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: that it wasn't the same as having like a good

816
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: fifty percent or get you know, thirty percent or whatever

817
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: it is of the song. I'm looking at Bill's bills

818
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: bills for Destiny Child. Uh, just Destiny's Child, Joe hit

819
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: if I was your man, I mean, so now you

820
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,359
Speaker 1: just sit back there like man I I I didn't

821
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: want to go back to no group. I didn't go

822
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:33,760
Speaker 1: write me Soul. It wasn't that group. Oh my gosh,

823
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: it was so it was a weird situation happened. So

824
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: I was, yeah, I was writing or whatever. And when

825
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: it mind you, when I first separated, it wasn't just me.

826
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,879
Speaker 1: Tsha was still doing her things right too at first, right,

827
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 1: but then while I was when my I guess, you know,

828
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: during the course of our album, you know, our probably

829
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: just supposed to be coming out. I don't know what

830
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: happened to her project. I just saw the other day

831
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: she tried to imply like I stopped her project from

832
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: coming out. Yeah, I was gonna ask you about that,

833
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: but I was like, I was like, girl, how I

834
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: do that? Can't please tell her to ask Dramaine dupri

835
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 1: why happened to come out? She was signed a social

836
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,320
Speaker 1: def ask him, like, I don't know why she was

837
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: trying to blame me right anyway, But yeah, so for

838
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: whatever reason, I don't know, because I wasn't really keeping

839
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: up with what was going on with them. Right after

840
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: we kind of split, right, I just really started to

841
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 1: down doing my own thing, and I was just grinding.

842
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: So after my album hadn't come out yet, right, but

843
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: she whatever her out, her deal didn't go and go

844
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,400
Speaker 1: through or whatever's going on. So then all of a

845
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 1: sudden she was ready to come back. Oh no, no, no, nope, nope,

846
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 1: nope no. I was like, oh no, So they had

847
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: a meeting with me and I'll never forget they was

848
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: like she was like, yeah, you know I think it's

849
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,839
Speaker 1: time for the group to come back, and you know,

850
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: people want to you know, people want to escape blah

851
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: blah blah. And I was like, huh. I was like,

852
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: did you say I don't want to escape right now? Yeah?

853
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: I was like, nah, I really want to finish my project.

854
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: Like no, like I want to you know, I still

855
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: want to do my things right, And she they was

856
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,720
Speaker 1: like yeah, but you know, right now, it's about escape,

857
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: you know. Oh no, I was about right, I'm like,

858
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 1: okay now when she thought she was trying to escape now,

859
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: so I was like, yeah, I don't know, I'm not

860
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 1: to think on that. Yeah, and then oh no, No,

861
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: it was worse. By the time I left, we had

862
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: we had like sat down with each other for like

863
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: at lunch or something conversation. By the time I made

864
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: it to my house, they was calling me back and

865
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: be like, uh, you need to give us an answer

866
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: now what yeah, or you need to sign a leaving

867
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:56,600
Speaker 1: member notice. So I was like and like leaving member

868
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: notice basically it was just like, basically it allows the

869
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,880
Speaker 1: labels to officially say that they could do it with

870
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: just them without you, right, you know what I mean? Right?

871
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 1: But they were like either you're gonna do it now

872
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,240
Speaker 1: or you're just gonna sign and let me remember notice,

873
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: I didn't gonna tell you what you're gonna do, and

874
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: they did. I was like, I was I really was

875
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: pissed about it because in my mind, I'm like, well,

876
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: we didn't tell you that, right, you know. But at

877
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 1: the same time, you know they were coming the way

878
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: they came at me, I was like, you know what

879
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: this is, I need to just just say okay. I

880
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: just said, okay, cool, I'll sign it, and I did.

881
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 1: Why did you say that? You should have said because

882
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 1: it had been so many years of our grew we

883
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 1: we don't we do this vote right right? It's you know,

884
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: we have a voting system, okay, so if you automatically,

885
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna have two people sticking together. Yeah,

886
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: and then if they get in tiny ear, you know

887
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: you got three against one. Every time, I'm always on

888
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: the losing, you see what I'm saying. And so at

889
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 1: that point, I just was like I was just tired.

890
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: I was just like, you know what, Okay, So I did,

891
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: But at that point it really piped me up to

892
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, I really gotta go get this bread

893
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: right because now I've you know, basically said okay to

894
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: letting them do what they wanted to do, letting them

895
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: have it or whatever. And yeah, so that's why after

896
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: that the conversation, the times they came back a few

897
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: more times after that point saying oh, let's do it again.

898
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: But at that point I was like, nah, yeah, y'all

899
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: didn't want me like That's how I felt, right, I'm

900
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: and in mind you I grew up. We do not

901
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: have great communication, right, I give them, you know, to

902
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: everybody's but I thought women. I thought women were great communication. No, no,

903
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: I'm not. Oh they've been lying to me. Tell me

904
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm a poor communication. I'm horrible Like I I I

905
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: get into myself and I just be like, yeah, okay, cool,

906
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: I just I just move on. We didn't even gonna

907
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:07,359
Speaker 1: talk about nothing like I'm terrible like that your clothes off. Yeah,

908
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: I'm very I guess you know I do have like

909
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: a dude side. I've heard that, but yeah, I definitely

910
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: would be like okay, cool and keep it pushing. When

911
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:24,280
Speaker 1: you when you wrote bills for Destiny's Child, well actually

912
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: for Beyonce, when you see her in the studio, did

913
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: you know she was gonna become b forget beyond definitely

914
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 1: refer to as Beyonce. They go about she's be not

915
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:37,439
Speaker 1: Did you know she was gonna be that? I knew

916
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:42,279
Speaker 1: she was gonna be great, right, It was kind of

917
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: pretty evident that her dad really was gonna set her

918
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: up to be so low one day. But she her

919
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: work effort and her drive, it's serious, you know, she

920
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: at that age, you know, she's younger than me. She

921
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: was a couple years younger than me, a few years

922
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, its few years younger than me. And

923
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,879
Speaker 1: she just you know, she she knew what she wanted right,

924
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 1: Like as soon as we had the studio were playing

925
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,000
Speaker 1: the tracks, and she was just like, I remember Shakespeare

926
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: who did the music right. He had walked out of

927
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: the room and I heard the girls talking. Then she

928
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: was like, look, we don't really like it. We need

929
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: to just let them know because we don't need to

930
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: look right. And I said, I was like, well, do

931
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: y'all mind if believe I seen you that I did

932
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: that I have before y'all make y'all decision. And I

933
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 1: was like, okay, you know whatever. And then that was

934
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: when Buggaboo he was playing buggaboo, and then if at

935
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: that time, people weren't really singing over wrap tracks for

936
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: those high energy tracks like right, so I asked sang

937
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: the melody that I had for the verse and the

938
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,720
Speaker 1: concept for the hook or whatever, and they were like, oh, okay,

939
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, we like it or whatever, and so then

940
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: we started doing things. But she was very instrumental of

941
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: how it should be vocal produced or oh this person,

942
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: oh you go in and sing this part, or I'm

943
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: gonna sing this part, like she very much knew how.

944
00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: And when we weren't in the studio, they had to

945
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: go and do shows. So they worked every single day

946
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: of the week at and they was only like, what's seventeen, right,

947
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: you know what, they're eighteen or something like that. So

948
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: I was like the drive was crazy because I mean,

949
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: mind you you singing every single every single weekend, like

950
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: three four days a week, right, and then you're going

951
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:30,759
Speaker 1: in the studio the other days of the week. They

952
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: never had a day off, right, So so you've worked

953
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: with some of the biggest I mean obviously TLC and

954
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: Beyonce and Whitney and Mariah and Singing Us, your Monica,

955
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: Lesia Keys, Joe, but I mean, so what did did

956
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 1: do you get nervous? Sometimes? Yeah, even after all I

957
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:54,839
Speaker 1: was nervous for sure. With Mariah Carey, Okay, we wrote

958
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 1: that song together over the telephone, right, she decided that

959
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: she wanted to work with Shakespeare and I but I

960
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: think she was out of the country working on her

961
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,720
Speaker 1: album and we were here, we were in the States

962
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: working with other artists, right, So she was just like, okay,

963
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: well he sent her the track and then she would

964
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: be like, Okay, what you come up with? And I'll

965
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,880
Speaker 1: seeing her the idea that I had of the melody,

966
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: and then she'd be like, Okay, we're gonna change that

967
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: word or change his word. And then she'd be like, Okay,

968
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,239
Speaker 1: I gotta go back into here. I'll call you back,

969
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: and then she'll call back it's called ex girlfriend. Okay.

970
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:32,719
Speaker 1: But it was interesting, right. I never have done a

971
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: session like that too, because like I like actually being Yeah,

972
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: I like to be there with the person, especially if

973
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna collaborate writing one right, But yeah, it was

974
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 1: it was an experience. Who haven't you worked with that

975
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: you would like to work with? Rihanna? And simply because

976
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:53,759
Speaker 1: I mean, I think she is great at picking hits right,

977
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 1: meaning you know the consistency of her albums, right, she

978
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:00,840
Speaker 1: has to be saying like have a good ear to

979
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 1: say Okay, that's right. No, that's for me, that's for me, right, Like,

980
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: so I just feel like it's gonna be dope. Well

981
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: I ain't me and you both I would like to

982
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: work have around in that chair too, So I guess

983
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: we don't be trying to a place. Well you are you?

984
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: You you already got that distinction. Distinction You the first exactly.

985
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: I mean there might be fifteen twenty thirty women come

986
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: after with you the first. So when I'm looking at you,

987
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 1: you're the first woman African American woman to win the

988
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:33,799
Speaker 1: A s C A yeah, in the genre. So when

989
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,360
Speaker 1: you when you get this, they say, well, uh, Candy,

990
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: you're the first, and you said I liked being first. Yeah.

991
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: But I think that was the that that hit different.

992
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: That was the first time that it really stood out

993
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: to me, because you know, I didn't really think about

994
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 1: it until I got there that day when it was

995
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: and they was like, oh my god, do you know

996
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,839
Speaker 1: what this means? And I really didn't know what it meant,

997
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: what it meant until I like went back and I

998
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: started looking in history like most of the time every

999
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: single songwriter of the year as a man, right, And

1000
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: then for me it really meant something because I'm like, okay,

1001
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: you know what, I am in a male dominated industry,

1002
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: and it's time to kick the door open for my

1003
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: sisters to come through, you know what I mean? Because

1004
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: obviously they didn't see that being the norm. Right. That's

1005
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:21,719
Speaker 1: funny that because I hear you you always talk about

1006
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: that bread in that bag and you say when you

1007
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: writing the song, the wrought them checks them checks real nice,

1008
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: they hit different hunt. So and now you have the

1009
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 1: reality show Escape the Group with f w V. How

1010
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: did that come about? Sho? Okay, so after we did

1011
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: the verses, okay, I guess Mona Scott Young, she decided that,

1012
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: you know, there's was more that we should do together. Right,

1013
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 1: They got a lot of great reactions, right verses or whatever,

1014
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: and so she came back with this idea for us

1015
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: to do the show with s WV. I think everybody

1016
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: was a little bit apprehensive at first, and for different reasons.

1017
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: I know for me, I just kind of felt like

1018
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: our group it was a lot of tension after the

1019
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 1: first time we did the first reality show, okay, and

1020
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 1: I didn't know if we can handle it again. I

1021
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: didn't know if I can handle it again, right, because

1022
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: what did the tension stem from. It was a lot

1023
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: of me and Tasha bumping heads still on the first reality. Yeah,

1024
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: this reality this time, I think it's the two sisters

1025
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 1: bumping heads. Okay, you know. I mean, of course I'm

1026
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: still I still have some issues in there, but so

1027
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: far from what I see because I haven't seen with

1028
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: the rest of what they're showing. Right, It's a lot

1029
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: going on within the family, right, I mean sharing sample

1030
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: shape of you, and so when somebody comes to you

1031
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: and samples, it's a blessing. It is so crazy. But

1032
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: no scrubs. Okay. So what happened was they did reach

1033
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: out initially when he first did the song. Okay, they

1034
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: sent the song and said that they went to work

1035
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: out the percentage of what he was gonna pay for

1036
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: the split if we're using the melody or whatever. So

1037
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: we had talks, but then we didn't hear nothing else

1038
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,960
Speaker 1: from him. So in my mind, I thought, Okay, he's

1039
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 1: just not gonna use it or whatever. And then the

1040
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: song came out. It was on radio and people were

1041
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: like doing their no scrubs and shapeing you mashups online,

1042
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 1: and we was like, oh, okay, well then we need

1043
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: to have a conversation about what else the splits about

1044
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: to be right. And it wasn't you know, they didn't

1045
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,360
Speaker 1: try to, you know, go back and forth about it.

1046
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: They just was like, okay, you know, yeah, you just

1047
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: threw out of hot. You always start hot, start real hot.

1048
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: I think we were reasonable because honestly, you know what

1049
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: we you know, of course it's a little bit more

1050
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: than what we initially was gonna do it for because

1051
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: release the song. But yeah, that's what I'm saying, because

1052
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,360
Speaker 1: now you got a mobile battle. But we didn't like

1053
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,839
Speaker 1: go crazy, okay, yeah, because you know, he might want

1054
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: to sample something else of yours and come back and

1055
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: see you again. What I mean, it would be nice,

1056
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:31,439
Speaker 1: but we I've had a lot of people sampled that song.

1057
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: It's a few people that are it's another song that's

1058
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 1: about to come out in the next week or two. Wow. Yeah.

1059
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: So who would you say as the goat female songwriter?

1060
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 1: A goat female? Oh, my friend esther Dean Okay, Oh,

1061
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,840
Speaker 1: she's a goat for sure. Okay, But Diane Warren is

1062
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: the goat of all goats. Okay for female songwriters, what

1063
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: were you putting Missy? Oh for sure? No, let me

1064
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: puts is up there too. That's my girl. I love

1065
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: her too. So before we go into anything else, I

1066
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: want to know how did you get involved with the

1067
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: Real house Wives of Atlanta? Who brought that to you?

1068
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: And you say, you know what, that sounds like a

1069
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: good idea, that is funny. I didn't think it was

1070
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 1: a good idea for so I had watched the first season.

1071
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: I thought it was good or whatever, but I didn't

1072
00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: see myself being on that right. And so just out

1073
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: of the blue, Tiny she was trying to work on

1074
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: a TV show ideal, right, and so she had reached

1075
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: out to me and she had introduced me to Toya okay,

1076
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: and she introduced me to another young lady whatever, and

1077
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 1: they all had celebrity relationship okay, okay, but to me

1078
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: and wanted me to be involved in the show too.

1079
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: So they were trying to do like a talk show

1080
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: of source back right. So I was like, okay, cool,

1081
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: and it sounds like a great idea. You started working

1082
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: on it, and then it was like, maybe we could

1083
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: do a reality show. But the producer of the show, oh,

1084
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,120
Speaker 1: while we were in the midst of trying to put

1085
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: it together and shot the show, Derek Ja He's a

1086
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: friend of my hairstyles in Atlantic people seeing him on

1087
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: TV before. He was like, hey, you know Housewives, they

1088
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 1: looking for somebody knew and yeah, he was like, I

1089
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: think they need somebody with their own money, you know,

1090
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 1: he said. He said that. I was like, oh, I'm

1091
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 1: already working on the show. He was like, yeah, but

1092
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell him to call you anyway, because they

1093
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: need somebody with their own money. Said yeah, okay, whatever.

1094
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: I was really just focused on the thing with Tiny.

1095
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: But then the producer of that show decided he didn't

1096
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 1: want to use me. Wow, everything happens for a reason.

1097
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, cool, and that ended up

1098
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 1: being the Tiny and toyat show. Remember back news. Yes.

1099
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: But then so the week after I found out I

1100
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be involved, Housewives called me and you say it.

1101
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I'm something fun to do.

1102
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: I was like, I didn't think I was. I was like,

1103
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 1: here'll be something to do for a year. I guess,

1104
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: but I mean, you're the oldg housewife now, now, I

1105
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: never thought that was gonna be. Yeah. I didn't think

1106
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:15,919
Speaker 1: so either. But what I see you doubt me a lot.

1107
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: I don't know about you. I don't know about you

1108
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: what you're saying. But you said you're not confrontational, but

1109
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 1: you don't back down from confrontation. No no, no, no

1110
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 1: no no no no no no, I said, I don't

1111
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: like to do a lot of talking. Okay, that's what

1112
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: you trying to squabble. So I'm just very much like

1113
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: I can go from being like real laid back and

1114
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: calm you go zero, yeah, like I can't. It's like

1115
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 1: that middle way. It doesn't last. I'm trying to keep

1116
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: it too much. I feel like, look, now, next thing

1117
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: I know. So, I mean, but the portrayal, and you've

1118
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: heard all this, I'm not breaking, I'm not this is

1119
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: not earth shattering news. I'm not interrupting the normally scheduled programming.

1120
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,920
Speaker 1: They say that Real Housewives of Atlanta and there are

1121
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,080
Speaker 1: there are others, especially when black women are involved, is

1122
01:00:05,120 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: not the most positive portrayal of black women. What do

1123
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 1: you say to that? That's the funny thing. Before when

1124
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out what was I gonna

1125
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: if I was gonna do the show. There were some

1126
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: group of women sitting around and they were like, you

1127
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: should do that show. It's not a good representation of

1128
01:00:20,280 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 1: black women, and all this other kind of stuff. And

1129
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: I said, well, if you think that's not a good

1130
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: representation of black women, but you think I am, then

1131
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you want me to be on it? Right?

1132
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So overall, I think that

1133
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,080
Speaker 1: we as Black people, we are we are the most

1134
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: we criticize ourselves. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we we're the most critical,

1135
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: criticize ourselves more than anybody. Right. And and when I

1136
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: look at all the franchises, yeah, not just Housewives, of

1137
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: all of them kind of portray a certain stereotype without trying, right,

1138
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: So say France is like the New Jersey Housewives. The

1139
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: Italian women, right, what's the stereotype of Italian? They say

1140
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 1: they're hot headed? They you know, and then everybody know

1141
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: they was flipping tables, they were doing all this stuff,

1142
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: family brawls, you know. Yes, nobody nobody Italian Caucasian says, oh,

1143
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: they're a bad representation of us, you know what I mean.

1144
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 1: But we, however, no matter how much we're showing of

1145
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,480
Speaker 1: accomplishments and other things that we have going on. Anytime

1146
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:27,000
Speaker 1: we have the negative arguing or whatever, people always seem

1147
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: to want to say, oh, they're not a good representation

1148
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: of black women. But what I will say is, over

1149
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: the years, we have shown people that, yes, we as

1150
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: black women, we do have our arguments. We are a

1151
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: little spicy, you know, and all of that, but we

1152
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: do show our families and the little that we have

1153
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:55,200
Speaker 1: our our family, we show you success stories and we

1154
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: show you how. You know, sometimes things ain't easy, but

1155
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 1: we make it through. And I feel like, hey, if

1156
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: it's not you know, if you don't like it, then

1157
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: maybe it's just not for you. But you were able

1158
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,480
Speaker 1: to parlay that. You have a very successful the Candy Colder,

1159
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: you have a rescue, a restaurant tour. Now, how have

1160
01:02:11,240 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: Real Housewive Atlanta helped you in other area or other avenues?

1161
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,680
Speaker 1: Oh it's it's it's been helpful in every area. I

1162
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 1: didn't think it was going to be when I first

1163
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,360
Speaker 1: did it. I was like, I've been on TV before, Like,

1164
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: what's that gonna be do for me? But the Bravo

1165
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:30,919
Speaker 1: Verse universe, right, our fans were Bravo They go hard

1166
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 1: for us. Yeah, they're very supportive. You know, they come

1167
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: out to all your events that, you know, whatever. So

1168
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: I always look at the show is really like your

1169
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: own infomercial, right, and whatever you want the world to

1170
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: see that you're doing. Yeah, they're gonna see your drama, right,

1171
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: but they really need to see you accomplish the things

1172
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: you want, right because people will support it, right, you know.

1173
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: And so that's just the way I go into Yeah,

1174
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 1: because you're still the highest rated, uh over million views

1175
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: per episode, the highest rated of any franchise. Still as

1176
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 1: long as you guys been on the area, still have

1177
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: the support. Oh, we definitely got the support. I mean

1178
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: TV numbers aren't what they used to be. But I

1179
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: mean when you know how they always be doing the

1180
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: demo is this and it's still doing whatever, It's still

1181
01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:17,120
Speaker 1: doing what it's supposed to be. How about this? What's

1182
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: your relationship with with Nini? Now? Oh? I guess we're cordial.

1183
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: The last couple of times I saw her, she was cool.

1184
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:27,480
Speaker 1: I mean we it's like cordially that means you're cordially invited,

1185
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 1: I mean out of I mean what we don't keep

1186
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: in contact, but you know, I the last couple of

1187
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,920
Speaker 1: times we've seen each other, we spoke, We definitely go

1188
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: throughout ups and down stuff. What about Marlow? All? Right, now,

1189
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 1: I'm not really feeling I am cordial, but we just

1190
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: finished season fifteen, and you will see why I'm not

1191
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: feeling her when it comes out. Oh man, come on,

1192
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: what I thought y'all was going. I'm'm I'm gonna have

1193
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:57,400
Speaker 1: to I'm gonna have to tune into this because I

1194
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: want to see great sh and hopefully y'all make amends.

1195
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 1: You know, we made amends sometimes, but she keeps going

1196
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 1: back to the bullshit and I can't. You can't deal

1197
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 1: with that. It just it just was a lot to

1198
01:04:13,680 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: me this time around, right, I mean, I can't tell

1199
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 1: you now because no, no, you're good. You're good. Yeah,

1200
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,840
Speaker 1: But do you hate I mean, it's been reported you

1201
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: make X amount of dollars. I ain't gonna say that,

1202
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:26,240
Speaker 1: But do you hate when people leak your information? Personal information?

1203
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 1: I don't think those people know what they're talking about

1204
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 1: numbers out because I'd be seeing some of the numbers

1205
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: that they say, people's net worths and stuff, and they

1206
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: don't never be right, right, And I'm like, how do

1207
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: they come up with this number, right, Who is the

1208
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: person that's saying or leaking the salaries? Right? Just like

1209
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: when they want to say who's making the most money?

1210
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 1: Or half the time they used to be trying to

1211
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:50,000
Speaker 1: say what I mean? I was like, is that what

1212
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: you think? Like that? You know? I'm like people you know,

1213
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 1: and then people run with it, they really think it's real.

1214
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, where do you do you all? I'm not

1215
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: telling anybody my salary, right, And I know Bravo isn't right,

1216
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 1: it's so are you getting that from? Right? Being in

1217
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:09,959
Speaker 1: the business that you've been in for a long period

1218
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,000
Speaker 1: of time, how hard was it for you to find

1219
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,120
Speaker 1: a mate before you found and we'll talk about tied

1220
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 1: in a minute, before you were able to find someone

1221
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: like Okay, this is what I do. He's gonna be Okay,

1222
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: I make egs amount of dollars. I'm probably making more

1223
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: than him, and he gonna feel some type of way

1224
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:32,440
Speaker 1: that I would really need him. See. The thing is,

1225
01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,080
Speaker 1: especially when you are a successful woman, right, right, it

1226
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: is kind of tough in the dating world, just because

1227
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:40,840
Speaker 1: like if you date a guy who has a lot

1228
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 1: of money, typically men who make a lot of money,

1229
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 1: they want you to set up a catter than them,

1230
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,439
Speaker 1: be a bud an every day all day. Yeah. Whatever.

1231
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: So when you don't have that type of time, it

1232
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:57,120
Speaker 1: may cause issues away, right, So yeah, I just I

1233
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 1: didn't stay in a lot of relationships too long. But

1234
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: what about so a woman that makes a lot of money,

1235
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: does you not want to be catered to? We definitely do. Well,

1236
01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:09,840
Speaker 1: what if he ain't got that kind of time? What

1237
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 1: do you mean? See you said, Okay, you make your

1238
01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 1: own money, you make something, you meet somebody that has

1239
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: more money than you. You say, men like to be

1240
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,680
Speaker 1: catered to. No, no, no, no, no. What I'm saying

1241
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: like saving instance, And I'm not saying that like I

1242
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't be willing to cater meaning like cook or like.

1243
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about those things. I'm talking about the

1244
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: type of time time. Yeah. Like I always use this

1245
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: example a lot of times when a woman is in

1246
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: a relationship with the men. I've seen a lot of

1247
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,240
Speaker 1: women like Savings, we've been making love of our knight

1248
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: and everything good. When a woman get up in the morning,

1249
01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:42,960
Speaker 1: she's like, oh baby, I'm just gonna call in sick.

1250
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lay up on it. You know, I just

1251
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:45,439
Speaker 1: I don't want to go in now where I'm gonna

1252
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: sit right here with you. If h turn it around. Yeah,

1253
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: if a man has that same situation when he wake

1254
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: up again, sails back, baby, I'll be right back. I'm

1255
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 1: gonna get the back. I'll be right back right. It's

1256
01:06:56,040 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: like it's not always reciprocated, meaning a lot of guys

1257
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: that's when cheating comes into play or whatever. Oh you

1258
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: don't have enough time for me. You don't have this,

1259
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 1: you know? So I dated you know, and different all

1260
01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: different types of you know, man as far as levels

1261
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 1: of success, right, you know what I mean. But I

1262
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: just feel like it's hard and like I said, if

1263
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 1: you you know, and when it comes to being fully

1264
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: committed to each other, when both of you are focused

1265
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: on your own things, it works well. Like for me

1266
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: with my husband and I. You know, we work on

1267
01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: a lot of things together, right, so it brings us together. Right.

1268
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:50,080
Speaker 1: You know your husband, you meet him, he was working

1269
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 1: on the show. Was it eye contact with it? Love

1270
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,480
Speaker 1: at first sight? When did I mean? When did you know? Like, Okay,

1271
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:03,560
Speaker 1: I can see me kids. Uh? Well, the funny thing

1272
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: is I did not know him at first. He was

1273
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 1: behind the scenes or whatever. And a friend of mine

1274
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: or actually domb one was like he side had came

1275
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: to set one day and he was they had that conversation.

1276
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: He was like, oh, that's Todd. He's a cool guy whatever.

1277
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 1: And then somebody else was like, oh, yeah, you know Todd,

1278
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 1: He's super super cool, and I'm like, that's a second person.

1279
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: I was just like, who is this? So anyway, I

1280
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: was in Africa and a friend of mine who was

1281
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 1: was a producer on the show. She was like, I

1282
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: know somebody who want to take you out? And I

1283
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: was like who. She said Todd? I said Todd. That's

1284
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: just Todd again. So I was like, Okay, tomorrow'mna find

1285
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: out who Todd is. Right? And I saw him and

1286
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:53,439
Speaker 1: then he didn't say nothing to me. He didn't need me.

1287
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 1: He was just like walked right past. Because I was

1288
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 1: like I saw her. I was like, I thought you

1289
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: said right, he wanted to take me out. And she's like, well,

1290
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 1: I don't know why he didn't say anything, but he

1291
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: definitely said that. But then later on we ended up

1292
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: having a conversation and we hit it off and he

1293
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:16,000
Speaker 1: kissed me. What rant just yeah, like we had we

1294
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,599
Speaker 1: have been talking all night and then he just went

1295
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,880
Speaker 1: in and kissed me, and I was like, caught off guards, right,

1296
01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:23,639
Speaker 1: because you know some guys that you know, they don't

1297
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:27,560
Speaker 1: want to be so forward forwards, right, but uh I

1298
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: like it. Okay, he's not intimidating whatever. Yeah, okay, but

1299
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:35,640
Speaker 1: when he messed it up, you in a hitch, you're

1300
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:37,560
Speaker 1: supposed to go, you know, you go family. Did she

1301
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 1: come thirty? You don't go all the way to one

1302
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: hundred todd now he went actually like what I'm saying,

1303
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm kind of a one hundred type anyway. So I

1304
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:53,160
Speaker 1: was like, oh right. And so when we went back

1305
01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 1: to came back to the States, you know, we you know,

1306
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:59,439
Speaker 1: started hanging out and went out, but he really wasn't

1307
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:04,040
Speaker 1: supposed to be no, because he was working on Yeah.

1308
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 1: So we were dating in secret at first, and then

1309
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:09,880
Speaker 1: after a while I was like, okay, I can't be

1310
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 1: doing all this tide. Yeah, I'm too old for this,

1311
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:17,120
Speaker 1: you know. So you know he made the decision to

1312
01:10:17,240 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: leave the show. Wow, Yeah, that man gave a big

1313
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: career for you. That's what everybody says. Like his friends

1314
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 1: was like, don't do it. You shouldn't know. But see,

1315
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,080
Speaker 1: here's the thing I mean, we were only dating like

1316
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: six months at that time, but I felt like we

1317
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 1: had a strong connection. The thing that I loved about

1318
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 1: Todd is he he knew things that I didn't know,

1319
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: meaning like you know, business wise and stuff like that,

1320
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 1: and he's just connected on things we went to do

1321
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,000
Speaker 1: in life and all that stuff. And I just was

1322
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 1: kind of like he was making good money in the show.

1323
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 1: I know, everybody's tried to like play him like, oh,

1324
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 1: you know he made he didn't make what I made, right,

1325
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 1: but he made it money behind the camera he shouldn't

1326
01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,880
Speaker 1: make when we wasn't even a camera man he was.

1327
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 1: He was a producer. That was the rumors that they

1328
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:09,560
Speaker 1: put out that he was a camera I got, you know,

1329
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,920
Speaker 1: I got I got sources. Yeah, no, he was. At

1330
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 1: first he was a product of production manager and then

1331
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:19,200
Speaker 1: he was a line producer right anyway. But yeah, so

1332
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,760
Speaker 1: I was just like, yeah, he knew things that I

1333
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: was like. So basically I just told him, I was like, man,

1334
01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:28,160
Speaker 1: we can make that money, right, like us coming together,

1335
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:29,920
Speaker 1: like we can make the money that you're over there.

1336
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 1: And I feel like sometimes when people have a comfortable situation, right,

1337
01:11:35,240 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: they'd be like, Okay, I don't know if I step

1338
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: all the way out on faith for you, because I

1339
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: don't know if this is gonna be like and I'm like, dude,

1340
01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: we could do this, right, you know. So we had

1341
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,320
Speaker 1: put together this event like a couple of weeks after

1342
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:52,720
Speaker 1: he stopped working with them, and we had made a

1343
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: nice bag, right, you know what I mean, we both

1344
01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 1: put our minds that, you know, our team, we put

1345
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,760
Speaker 1: it together, and I you know, not to say how

1346
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 1: much we made, but he was like, oh yeah, we

1347
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:06,840
Speaker 1: could keep this, like we just keep running it up, right. Yeah,

1348
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: So he wasn't you say, the key to marriages communication.

1349
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: You say you're not the greatest communicator. He's a better

1350
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: communicator than that means, but you worked to communicate. Yeah,

1351
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 1: I have to, meaning because like, Okay, I'm different in

1352
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 1: a sense of like, Okay, I know how to work

1353
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 1: my battles with my husband. Right. First of all, we

1354
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: don't really argue that much, right, but he's a leo

1355
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: and he likes to have his way all the time. Yeah.

1356
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: But I mean, I guess maybe because I've been in

1357
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: a group, I kind of know how to pick and

1358
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,840
Speaker 1: choose my battles, right. Yeah, So for the most part,

1359
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:46,479
Speaker 1: I let him have his way, you know, well for

1360
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: the most right, if it's anything that I feel super

1361
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: strong about, that's when it has to be a conversation.

1362
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,720
Speaker 1: Sometimes that kid get uncomfortable, right, Okay, you know, but

1363
01:12:56,960 --> 01:13:00,560
Speaker 1: the arguments don't last, right, we don't like in it.

1364
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:03,639
Speaker 1: How do you keep the outside noise? Because that's that's

1365
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: the relationship, especially you do you know your reality television show,

1366
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,200
Speaker 1: but the outside noise, the how do you how do

1367
01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: you keep that at bait? You know, I've always been

1368
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 1: really good and not caring what other people think. Okay, Like,

1369
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: if I care what other people thought about me, then

1370
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 1: I would have been like left behind long time ago. Right,

1371
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 1: So I don't really care about other people's opinions. Like it, Well,

1372
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 1: I like what I like. I want what I want,

1373
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: and I make that work, you know, you know what

1374
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 1: I mean? Then your show you have kids not be

1375
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,639
Speaker 1: a secret? I mean, so how how was that? Because

1376
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:39,400
Speaker 1: being reality television you have your life play out in

1377
01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: front of everybody as opposed and you seem like you're

1378
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 1: a very private person. Where you were a very private

1379
01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,360
Speaker 1: person at end of the day. Now you because now

1380
01:13:47,439 --> 01:13:49,520
Speaker 1: you give up the privacy, you give up the anonymity

1381
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: to have your life play out on television? Yeah, how

1382
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,800
Speaker 1: was that for you? Uh, well, you know it's something

1383
01:13:55,840 --> 01:13:57,680
Speaker 1: you get used to over time, right you know. So

1384
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 1: now obviously this is my fourteen seasons and I just finished,

1385
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,040
Speaker 1: so now I'm just it's just part of what it is.

1386
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,360
Speaker 1: But even with making decisions like you know, when we

1387
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,760
Speaker 1: have fertility, when I have fertility issues, right, doing IVF

1388
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: and including the world and that experience, I know that

1389
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 1: I'm the only one that's dealing with so it helps

1390
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 1: other people, right to see me go through that process.

1391
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:23,800
Speaker 1: Or even when we decide to do the surgit on

1392
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,760
Speaker 1: our lash out Blaze, right, you know we did, we

1393
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 1: still included the world in what was happening. Yeah, I

1394
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: know a lot of people have opinions, right, but it

1395
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 1: helps a lot of people. Yeah, So because you know

1396
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 1: a lot of times you're like people's like, well, rich

1397
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: people have it. They don't have any problems, they don't

1398
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: have pregnancy issues, they don't have death, they don't have that.

1399
01:14:44,720 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 1: They think because they think money solves everything. Right, It's

1400
01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:49,519
Speaker 1: just that you you have the situation, you have the

1401
01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: means to probably help solve some of those but you

1402
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:57,200
Speaker 1: still have those issues, right, of course, you know it

1403
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 1: was it. We do have lots of people be thinking

1404
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,680
Speaker 1: everything goes or works for me, and it just doesn't right,

1405
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But it's just that I'll

1406
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: just keep pushing, so you constantly seeing something come together,

1407
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:11,639
Speaker 1: So you just you don't really see all the things

1408
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 1: that didn't go right when I raising kids on television,

1409
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,680
Speaker 1: if that's something that you thought you would ever do,

1410
01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:23,439
Speaker 1: because if I'm not mistaken, you had a daughter when

1411
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 1: you first started, Yeah, and you didn't you know, you

1412
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:28,439
Speaker 1: tried to play a cool you didn't put it on

1413
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 1: a whole lot, but she wasn't. She was on my daughter.

1414
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 1: She's twenty now, right, so she kind of grew up

1415
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 1: on television. Right. It's funny people feel like they know Ruther, right,

1416
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: but she was only like six then, and you know

1417
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm a single mom, right, So yeah, a lot of

1418
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: people had been privy to the drama within that situation,

1419
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 1: and yeah, that was kind of tough dealing with that

1420
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:56,759
Speaker 1: right on television. So sure you have no regrets about,

1421
01:15:57,080 --> 01:15:59,799
Speaker 1: you know, having to deal with that publicly, because sometimes

1422
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: you like to deal with things, especially family. I'd like

1423
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:04,479
Speaker 1: to deal with family behind closed doors. I don't want

1424
01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:07,559
Speaker 1: people see that me and family bickering the well, it's

1425
01:16:08,040 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 1: the problem is it's like some of the stuff I

1426
01:16:11,240 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 1: didn't really have a say in, right, Like something like

1427
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:19,000
Speaker 1: when you're reality TV, sometimes they like to surprise you

1428
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:23,040
Speaker 1: with some stuff like surprise, here goes your daughter's daddy.

1429
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:28,280
Speaker 1: It's like, what are you doing on you know? That's

1430
01:16:28,320 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 1: type of stuff that you'd be like, Okay, so yeah,

1431
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 1: sometimes certain situations I wish I didn't have to deal

1432
01:16:38,439 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 1: with on TV, But it's part of what I what

1433
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 1: I am doing right, is your mom and Todd good

1434
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:56,720
Speaker 1: now because they are not horrible now, But I think Todd,

1435
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: what would hold up with your mom and Todd? My mom?

1436
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: She don't think anybody's good enough for a daughter. Da No,

1437
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:06,880
Speaker 1: my mom? Okay, my mom's old school, right, And I mean,

1438
01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:10,280
Speaker 1: I honestly I think she would you know, she would

1439
01:17:10,360 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 1: prefer that I had married somebody who had more money

1440
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: than me. What damn? What she wants you to be? Wrong?

1441
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:22,520
Speaker 1: And fella, a professional athlete be what I mean? Probably

1442
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean it's that old school mentality,

1443
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And and nothing wrong with that? No, No,

1444
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not saying anything. You love who you love,

1445
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,640
Speaker 1: you love who you love. And then on top of that,

1446
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: I just kind of feel like she didn't see the

1447
01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 1: value in my husband, meaning that, Yeah, you know, I

1448
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:49,160
Speaker 1: like the neozone. I I'm a movement by myself. Wait,

1449
01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:51,479
Speaker 1: I'm a movement by myself, but I'm a forceman. We're together, right,

1450
01:17:51,520 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about me and Tide. Okay, Like, yeah,

1451
01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 1: I was making booze before Todd and I got together,

1452
01:17:56,240 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 1: but we're a force together. Okay, it is leveled up

1453
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,640
Speaker 1: even more or the man. And I don't think that

1454
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:07,519
Speaker 1: he gets the credit for the respect of what he

1455
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: brings to the table because you were so successful before

1456
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 1: he got there. Yes, so people are not gonna give

1457
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:15,240
Speaker 1: him I don't and I don't think that's fair, And

1458
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 1: obviously that can be frustrating to him, right, And I

1459
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: think you know, the situation whether my mom and him

1460
01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 1: is like over the years, she said a lot of stuff, right,

1461
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 1: you know, she feels like we come from a big

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01:18:26,840 --> 01:18:28,920
Speaker 1: family and everybody would talk crazy, right, you know what

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01:18:29,040 --> 01:18:31,600
Speaker 1: I mean. But they feel like you're just supposed to

1464
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,560
Speaker 1: get over it, right, And I think he's at the

1465
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,880
Speaker 1: point where he's tired of just being getting over it. Yeah, yeah,

1466
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 1: how about you stop saying over that stuff and then

1467
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 1: before I would have to get over Yeah, that's kind

1468
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:47,360
Speaker 1: of where they are right now. Okay, what is this

1469
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 1: Bedroom Candy? Yes, Bedroom Candy, I mean my adult adult

1470
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,560
Speaker 1: toy line. Yeah, I know, I know exactly what it is.

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01:18:57,640 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, how did you like? You know what

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01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,240
Speaker 1: people they do? I mean, they they using toys, they

1473
01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 1: buying towards they might as well buying from candy. And yeah,

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01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 1: well I agree, I know the good ones and I

1475
01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 1: have the great ones. Yeah yeah, I know, But man,

1476
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:19,000
Speaker 1: I want to know how well I was. I was

1477
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,080
Speaker 1: doing this show online, our Candy Coding Nights, Yes, and

1478
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 1: we it's a sex and relationship conversation. And that was

1479
01:19:25,240 --> 01:19:28,320
Speaker 1: before everybody started doing it. Now now everybody's talking about

1480
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:33,839
Speaker 1: sex online. But we was doing it ago, right, So anyway,

1481
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 1: we had a big following for it, and I just

1482
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 1: was kind of like trying to figure out, like what

1483
01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,479
Speaker 1: it has to be, like a product or something that

1484
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,600
Speaker 1: I can have along with this. And a friend of

1485
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 1: mine was like, you truck to y'all a sex toys

1486
01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:48,080
Speaker 1: And I was a woman who enjoyed sex toys. So

1487
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, that's an interesting idea. I

1488
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 1: like that idea. But the thing about it was, you know,

1489
01:19:56,000 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: because it's a stick, it used to be a stigma

1490
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 1: attached to it, like only stars used to be right

1491
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 1: voting year or whatever, and you know, like people be

1492
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: scared to go to the toy shop. Yeah, they don't

1493
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:08,280
Speaker 1: want nobody to see him with the box, you know

1494
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:10,639
Speaker 1: all that stuff. Yeah, waiting about nine o'clock, ten thirty.

1495
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about that. We can wait l Yeah,

1496
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: exactly exactly. So I wanted to change that, right and yeah,

1497
01:20:19,400 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 1: because a lot of women do not have not experienced

1498
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 1: an actual orgasm from just penetration or whatever. So women

1499
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: really need to know their own bodies and know how

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01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 1: to express, like what they like and when they don't

1501
01:20:32,160 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 1: like and all that stuff. So, yes, girl, you need

1502
01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 1: to get you a little toy. You need to figure

1503
01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:38,360
Speaker 1: it out, and you can share that with your significant o.

1504
01:20:38,479 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 1: Then y'all can make it do what it do. See. Yeah,

1505
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:41,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna be able to stay on there off this.

1506
01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 1: I mean you could cut it out. No, no, no,

1507
01:20:45,479 --> 01:20:48,879
Speaker 1: we can we can cut it cut out on a restaurant,

1508
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: several several restaurants, right, yep. Unfortunately there was a shooting

1509
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:56,479
Speaker 1: involved at one of your restaurants. Were you there that

1510
01:20:56,640 --> 01:21:00,759
Speaker 1: night or you got the call? No, I I definitely

1511
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 1: got the call my cousin he had got a shot.

1512
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:07,080
Speaker 1: But it was it was outside the restaurant. It was

1513
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 1: during the day. Actually, it was during the day, right, yeah,

1514
01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 1: it was. Yeah, it was very upsetting. Right, let's say

1515
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 1: the least. So fourteen years on Real Housewife, you got

1516
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 1: the new reality show Escape s w V, you got

1517
01:21:24,280 --> 01:21:28,600
Speaker 1: so many other projects. Five ten years from now, what

1518
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:33,400
Speaker 1: can we expect from Candy? Hmm? Well, my overall goal,

1519
01:21:33,680 --> 01:21:36,879
Speaker 1: I tell everybody you know, I really want to achieve

1520
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: egot status, So mean in me Grammy, Oscar Tony, Well,

1521
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: I have a Grammy okay, right now working on that

1522
01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 1: Tony Okay. No, this is my second Broadway show. I

1523
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 1: produced the Piano Lesson, okay, so I'm hoping that they

1524
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 1: recognize it in this coming Tony season. Okay. But yeah,

1525
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:56,600
Speaker 1: like I'm just gonna continue to build things. Right now,

1526
01:21:56,640 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 1: I'm developing another girl group like the Younger Group, okay,

1527
01:22:00,280 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 1: hopefully make them help them get to their dream, right.

1528
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:08,719
Speaker 1: I just wanna continue building the empire with my family,

1529
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:12,080
Speaker 1: and he's leaving my kids, you know, helping them take

1530
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: it to the next level. Takeover. It's a Candy takeover.

1531
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:23,000
Speaker 1: Candy takeover. Yes, thank you being the first female young

1532
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 1: lady to sit down on Club Sha Shade. Thank you

1533
01:22:25,439 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: for the opportunity for me to sit across from you

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01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 1: and ask you questions. Don wand I appreciate you making

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01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:39,360
Speaker 1: this happen. Candy, thank you. Thanks for having me all

1536
01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: my life and running all my life sacrifice hustle back Price,

1537
01:22:44,560 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 1: Want a Slice? Got the brother Dice to swad all

1538
01:22:47,479 --> 01:22:50,519
Speaker 1: my life? I've been grinding all my life all my life,

1539
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 1: been running all my life, sacrifice, hustle, pager, Price, wanna slice?

1540
01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 1: Got the brother dice to swad all my life? I've

1541
01:22:58,760 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 1: been grinding all my life.