WEBVTT - Free Picks for EVERY Week 2 NFL Game (Ep. 332)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in everybody in the betting pros. It's time to

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<v Speaker 1>place your bets. It is me Joey p joe Pisipia,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's time already if you can believe it. To

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<v Speaker 1>look ahead to week two in the NFL. Some fun

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<v Speaker 1>things happening in week one, some not some fun things

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Got that Cleveland upset that felt really good.

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<v Speaker 1>The Pittsburgh Steeler one did not go well. Oh God.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of not going well, how about those Giants. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a tough loss there on Sunday night football in

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<v Speaker 1>front of the entire world. But again, it's only week one,

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<v Speaker 1>So how much are we gonna take out of that

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<v Speaker 1>and how much are we gonna try to take advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of it in the early lines. That's what today is about.

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<v Speaker 1>And to help me do it, of course, is Pat

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<v Speaker 1>Fitzmorris back again as always every Monday, and our new

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<v Speaker 1>best friend Sam Hoppin, who is also our data analyst wizard,

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<v Speaker 1>who is gonna give you some hard, cold facts based

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<v Speaker 1>on math and science. They're gonna help you make some bets.

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<v Speaker 1>And that sounds like a good thing to me. FITZI,

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<v Speaker 1>I know we kind of talked about this in week

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<v Speaker 1>one some of the things that went on there. I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta say, the one thing too that really came out

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<v Speaker 1>of the blue for me was I was stunned that

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<v Speaker 1>the Tampa Bay Buccaneers went into Minnesota and one. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't think there was any way that that was going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen. What was the most surprising outcome of all

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<v Speaker 1>the games for you in Week one?

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<v Speaker 2>The Bengals getting six first downs, Joe, Like, I did

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<v Speaker 2>not see that one coming at all, you know, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought that was going to be a pretty close

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<v Speaker 2>game and just a completely one sided affair. So like

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<v Speaker 2>the Bengals are a team, I have no idea what

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<v Speaker 2>to make of as we head into Week two, right now?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Sam, your week one obviously tumultuous, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>like most people's. But was there one thing that was

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<v Speaker 1>really surprising to you that you just did not see

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<v Speaker 1>coming to kind of hit you in the face out

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<v Speaker 1>of nowhere?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was the Rams over the Seahawks. For me,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't think the Rams had any shot of putting

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<v Speaker 3>up more than ten points against the Seahawks defense, and

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<v Speaker 3>they just put it on them, even without Cooper Cups.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was pretty shocking to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the Seahawks offense not really clicking like we

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<v Speaker 3>had seen it last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so a lot of things to get through and

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<v Speaker 1>obviously looking at we too, we still got one more

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<v Speaker 1>game to play tonight. But that's old news, that's history.

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<v Speaker 1>come on that, but let's get to the games, gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's start here with the Minnesota Vikings and the

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles Thursday night football. So no rest for the weary here.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably in some ways, Pat, the best thing for the

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota Vikings is a short week not to dwell on

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<v Speaker 1>that terrible, horrible, no good loss. If you're looking right

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<v Speaker 1>now early on here, it looks like the Eagles are

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<v Speaker 1>seven and a half point home favorites. Minnesota will be

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<v Speaker 1>going on the road. It's always tough to go on

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<v Speaker 1>the road, especially early in the year in a short week.

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<v Speaker 1>So does the seven and a half feel right here

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<v Speaker 1>and the total at forty eight and a half early on?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean the line feels about right what it

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<v Speaker 2>should be at But I think I'm inclined to lay

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<v Speaker 2>the points here, Joe, And maybe you were a little

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<v Speaker 2>more surprised by that Vikings toast stubbing in Week one

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<v Speaker 2>than I was, But they are just they were so

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<v Speaker 2>much worse than their twenty twenty two record. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>they were eleven to zero and one score games in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty two, which will never see happen again. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>never see a team have that kind of record and

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<v Speaker 2>get out scored on the year. They were a bottom

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<v Speaker 2>ten team in terms of overall DVA, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Eagles can play a lot better.

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<v Speaker 5>Than they did in Week one.

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<v Speaker 2>They were out gained by one hundred and thirty one

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<v Speaker 2>yards by the Patriots, still came away with the w

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<v Speaker 2>but I think they can clean things up and become

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<v Speaker 2>more of the well oiled machine we saw down the

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<v Speaker 2>stretch last season, So I'm inclined to lay the points.

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<v Speaker 2>I also kind of like the over because I think

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<v Speaker 2>the Eagles are going to get it together on offense

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<v Speaker 2>this week.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that was what I was going to bring up here, Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>because the Eagles only had one offensive touchdown yesterday against

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots. Now, Patriots defense is always gonna come ready

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<v Speaker 1>to play. You know, it was raining too up in Foxborough.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of factors, Tom Brady Day, all the things happening.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you think maybe the seven and a half

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<v Speaker 1>is giving the Eagles too much credit because that offense

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<v Speaker 1>did not look great out of the gate here in

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<v Speaker 1>Week one.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's giving them too much credit.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, last year we saw the Ladelphia and Minnesota

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<v Speaker 3>play in primetime, and we all know how that disaster

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<v Speaker 3>turned out for Minnesota. So I think that line is

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<v Speaker 3>about right. I'm probably not touching it because I do

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<v Speaker 3>think that Minnesota has, you know, a chance with potentially

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<v Speaker 3>Philadelphia's offense sleeping a little bit, maybe could wake up

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<v Speaker 3>this Thursday night. But I really like the overend this game.

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<v Speaker 3>Minnesota's offense was moving the ball pretty decently yesterday and

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<v Speaker 3>they had a couple costly turnovers in Tampa Bay's territory,

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<v Speaker 3>so that stifled their drives quite a bit. So I

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<v Speaker 3>think both of these offenses are going to be fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it could be a high scoring, shootout potential game.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Green Bay and Atlanta the next one on

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<v Speaker 1>the docket here. We still have some time to get

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<v Speaker 1>some clarity about what's going on with Aaron Jones that injury.

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<v Speaker 1>As we mentioned before, so far, it looks like you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting this number somewhere between one one and a half. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>on the Green Bay side of things, Jordan Love did

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<v Speaker 1>look good in that game. The total for this number

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<v Speaker 1>right now is around forty and a half of some

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<v Speaker 1>other spots here on bettingpros dot com. Sam your thoughts here,

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<v Speaker 1>do you see any early value on this game here?

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta and Green Bay both coming off wins yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to try to take my green Bay bias

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<v Speaker 3>out of this and look at the fact that Atlanta's

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<v Speaker 3>defenses is much better than Chicago's, and so I think

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<v Speaker 3>that's what will keep this game closer. I do think

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<v Speaker 3>that the under could probably be in play here, even

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<v Speaker 3>though it is pretty low. I think it's sitting right

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<v Speaker 3>around forty points right now, and it could just be

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<v Speaker 3>one of those grinded out games with two offenses that

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<v Speaker 3>have inexperienced quarterbacks against defenses that played pretty well.

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<v Speaker 4>In Week one.

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<v Speaker 3>The Packers defense played better than I think a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people expected, being able to hold that Bears offense

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<v Speaker 3>to just twenty points.

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<v Speaker 4>Get the pick six as.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, so I slightly lean the Packers on the side

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<v Speaker 3>just knowing that I expect Aaron Jones to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to play. I think they didn't rush him back in

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<v Speaker 3>the game Sunday because they had the game in hand

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<v Speaker 3>at that point, So I think hopefully having Christian Watson

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<v Speaker 3>back this week as well would be huge for that

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<v Speaker 3>offense too.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so as the Packers may or may not

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<v Speaker 1>be healthy this week, Pat, you've seen any early value

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<v Speaker 1>on this line here in this game in Atlanta?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, just before we started recording the show, the

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<v Speaker 2>Packers were minus one on DraftKings, and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>there would only be one way this line would move

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<v Speaker 2>if Aaron Jones were to be ruled out and like

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<v Speaker 2>it would go to the Falcons. I think they would

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<v Speaker 2>be even money at worst, maybe favored if that happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Sam mentioned how well the Packers' defense played, and we're

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<v Speaker 2>both Packers fans, Yes, they did play really well against

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<v Speaker 2>the Bears. The trouble is, the Packers are better against

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<v Speaker 2>the pass than the run defense, and we know the

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<v Speaker 2>Falcons are going to run the ball well, and the

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<v Speaker 2>Packers have not had a good run defense for years now,

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<v Speaker 2>so that's kind of concerning to me. The effectiveness of

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<v Speaker 2>their offensive balance if they don't have Aaron Jones is

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<v Speaker 2>concerning to me because, as we were talking about before

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<v Speaker 2>the show, I don't think AJ Dillon is very good. So,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm inclined to take the Falcons in the money

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<v Speaker 2>line here and kind of staying away from the total,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I just I would want to bet the over,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm not betting the over on Falcons games with

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<v Speaker 2>Arthur Smith there.

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<v Speaker 5>They just run the ball too much.

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<v Speaker 2>If anything, I would take the over, but I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm going to play it here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the under sounds interesting, especially with that pace of

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<v Speaker 1>play and how run heavy they were, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>to imagine that would carry over again this week at

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<v Speaker 1>home too with Algier and Jean Robinson. The Bears are

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<v Speaker 1>going to travel to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the

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<v Speaker 1>Bucks go home conquering heroes of Minnesota minus two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. Here on the Bucks side, they are favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty three and a half is basically that number you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting on this pat. I'm gonna ask you this straight up.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think the wrong team is just favored in

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<v Speaker 1>this game?

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<v Speaker 5>It seems that way, Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>And normally one of my favorite bets is the team

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<v Speaker 2>coming off a bitter defeat against the team that's fat

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<v Speaker 2>and happy coming off a satisfying victory. But I was

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<v Speaker 2>so thoroughly unimpressed with the Bears passing game and the

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<v Speaker 2>design of it yesterday. Like, screen passes are great to

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<v Speaker 2>dial up, but when you're throwing eighty percent of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>eighty percent of your playbook is screen passes, they're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna work as well. And like they were just there

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<v Speaker 2>was so little, such a one dimensional Bears passing game,

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<v Speaker 2>So I was kind of nervous about that, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not really ready to touch this one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can understand that this one has a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of curiosity to it, you know, the Bears coming off

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<v Speaker 1>that that tough loss year, the Buccaneers coming off a huge,

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<v Speaker 1>unexpected win. To me, this is one of those dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>trap games where people just automatically will start buying it

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<v Speaker 1>on the Tampa Bay Bucaneers. And it feels the lines

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<v Speaker 1>telling us that, but Sam, should we be listening?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think Chicago is the pick here. There

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<v Speaker 3>looks like they're right around minus two and a half,

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<v Speaker 3>heavily favored towards that and then minus three at some books,

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<v Speaker 3>if you can get excuse me, that's for Tampa Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>If Chicago is plus three, I think I'd take that

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<v Speaker 3>they have, in my opinion, the better quarterback than Tampa Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>They on the flip side of the Minnesota turnovers, were

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<v Speaker 3>the beneficiary of those turnovers from Minnesota. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>this is a bit of an overreaction to a one

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<v Speaker 3>game sample. I think on the total the Bucks have

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<v Speaker 3>probably more talented players, but I think as a team,

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<v Speaker 3>the Bears are the better rated team right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of overreactions, the Detroit Lyons went in on Thursday

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<v Speaker 1>night kicked off the season with a huge upset win

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<v Speaker 1>over the Kansasley Chiefs and defending champions five and a

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<v Speaker 1>half points. They are favored now over the Seattle Seahawks,

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<v Speaker 1>who lost at home to the Los Angeles Rams, and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people did not think that was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>help Pens. So a lot of again odd circumstances here

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<v Speaker 1>in some of these Week two games, this being one

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<v Speaker 1>of them. So the Lions five and a half point favorites.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifteen and a half is the number right now when

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at this here Sam, do you see any

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<v Speaker 1>early value here potentially? And do you think maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>Lions aren't as good as we saw and maybe the

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<v Speaker 1>Seahawks are better than we saw week one?

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<v Speaker 3>This is what I'm not quite sure about right now.

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<v Speaker 3>Seattle lost both of their tackles during the game on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 3>That said, I don't think Detroit's offense was at its

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<v Speaker 3>peak performance and think they could really push it against

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<v Speaker 3>Seattle this week like we saw Los Angeles do yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think if I had to choose one, it

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<v Speaker 3>would be Detroit mine with the points. But it's it's

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<v Speaker 3>close right now, and I think I would stay away

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Pat, are you staying away right now from this

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<v Speaker 1>line of waiting to see where things go?

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<v Speaker 2>I am, Joe, I'm staying away. It's another case of

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<v Speaker 2>a team coming off a bitter loss versus a team

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<v Speaker 2>fat and happy after a big win.

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<v Speaker 1>But that happened with extra time off too.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the saying that, right The Lions have some extra

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<v Speaker 2>prep time. As Sam mentioned, Seattle's got some key infrastructure

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<v Speaker 2>type injuries, so I'm probably going to avoid this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Like it's a game where I want to bet Seattle,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just don't have the confidence to do it now.

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<v Speaker 1>Pat, barring catastrophic injuries, I'm not going to take too

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<v Speaker 1>much out of tonight's game, the Monday night game that

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<v Speaker 1>we have ahead of us here when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>the Buffalo Bills. So far as the Buffalo Bills are

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<v Speaker 1>nine and a half point favorites at home against the Raiders,

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<v Speaker 1>so as long as Josh Allen and the Bills are

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<v Speaker 1>intact when they come home, I don't really care what

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<v Speaker 1>happens to this game. I know there's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of emotion running through that building. It was nine

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<v Speaker 1>to eleven, it was New York, it was the first

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron Rodgers debut for the New York Jets, is their

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<v Speaker 1>new quarterback. So so much happening in that game. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just not gonna take too much out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>That being said, the Raiders also pulled out a sneaky victory.

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<v Speaker 1>This feels like a smash game here. The nine and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. The total in this game is forty eight.

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<v Speaker 1>But Pat, do you think this early in the season

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<v Speaker 1>that a margin this big is actually too much to

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<v Speaker 1>give anybody?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it is, especially if the Bills have a

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<v Speaker 2>big week one victory over a division rival. I could

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<v Speaker 2>see them having a letdown game in Week two at

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<v Speaker 2>home against the Raiders, a game they probably think they

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<v Speaker 2>can just show up for and win.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, Sam, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at this too. Again, the nine and a half

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<v Speaker 1>is a big number here. Do you think you wait

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<v Speaker 1>on this one and see if the Bills put a

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<v Speaker 1>hurt and on the Jets and it gets even bigger,

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<v Speaker 1>and then maybe take the Raiders side to cover.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that there is a game outcome tonight

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<v Speaker 3>that will drastically change things from the Bill's perspective, barring

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<v Speaker 3>a massive injury, like you said, whether it's to God forbid,

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<v Speaker 3>Josh Allen or someone else on the offense. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>it is such a big line to lay this early

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<v Speaker 3>in the season, where again we saw some crazy things

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<v Speaker 3>happen in Week one. Crazy things are going to happen

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<v Speaker 3>again in week two, and so I don't want either

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<v Speaker 3>side of this. I think the over in this game

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<v Speaker 3>is a little bit more interesting because I think Buffalo

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<v Speaker 3>has the firepower. Las Vegas again played decently on offense

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<v Speaker 3>last last night, and I don't think Buffalo's defense is

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<v Speaker 3>as strong as people expect them to be, so I

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<v Speaker 3>would lean the over and staying away from sides right.

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<v Speaker 1>all good things, not so good things here for the Chargers.

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<v Speaker 1>A tough loss. There a PI that probably a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people could do without. There was like seven thousand

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<v Speaker 1>flags thrown on that play. Was one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>amazing things. My daughter, who was a young football player herself,

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<v Speaker 1>laughed out loud. She said, did they have any more

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<v Speaker 1>flags to throw? When she watched that happen. It was

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<v Speaker 1>the funniest thing, And I said, no, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they do, Dear, I don't think they do. But regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>the Chargers will try to get their season back together.

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<v Speaker 1>They are again three point underdogs going into Tennessee, Tennessee's

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<v Speaker 1>favorite and excuse me, they are three point favorites. Pardon me,

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<v Speaker 1>going on the road to Tennessee. Forty five and a

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<v Speaker 1>half is the number for this one, Sam, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at this one here, I think on paper, we

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<v Speaker 1>all agree the Chargers offense is much more interesting and

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<v Speaker 1>much more explosive. Is it just as simple as that?

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<v Speaker 1>Or you know, do we see a better version of

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Tannehill because yesterday was not good, did not complete

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of his passes. DeAndre Hopkins and him didn't

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<v Speaker 1>seem to get on the same page either. So do

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<v Speaker 1>you think the Chargers go in here and smash and

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<v Speaker 1>take out their aggression from that Miami game? Or do

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<v Speaker 1>they run into a team at home and the Titans

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<v Speaker 1>that is going to be prepared and kind of bring

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<v Speaker 1>them down to their level And that's what Mike Rabel

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<v Speaker 1>does best.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that the Chargers go in and lay it

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<v Speaker 3>on them. I think the Titans showed this offseason drafting well,

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<v Speaker 3>levis what they sort of think of Ryan Tannehill long term.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously this is a one game sample from from this year,

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<v Speaker 3>but he did not look great at all. And the

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<v Speaker 3>Chargers defense is nothing to write home about. They got

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<v Speaker 3>blasted by Tua and the Dolphins yesterday. But I just

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<v Speaker 3>think the Chargers are going to be able to put

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<v Speaker 3>up twenty four plus points against Tennessee. You know, Derek

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<v Speaker 3>Carr didn't play great and the Saints were able to

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<v Speaker 3>move the ball pretty effectively against Tennessee's defense. So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>laying the Chargers with the points here.

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<v Speaker 1>Pat, this is one again. On paper, it looks pretty obvious.

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<v Speaker 1>I know they're you know, the hole underdog is something

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<v Speaker 1>we always love to go for. But did you see

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<v Speaker 1>anything in that Titans game yesterday that gave you confidence

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<v Speaker 1>that they can pull off an upset here against the

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<v Speaker 1>Chargers at home?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh? Boy, Joe, I sure didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Tannehill looked every bit as bad as the stat line

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<v Speaker 2>would suggest.

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<v Speaker 5>The Titans offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people thought it would be the worst

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<v Speaker 2>in the league, and I see no reason to dispute

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<v Speaker 2>that assessment after what we saw in Week one, and

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<v Speaker 2>it just seems like the Chargers would have superior firepower.

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<v Speaker 5>But that said, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Cannot bring myself to bet against Mike Vrabel at home,

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<v Speaker 2>a Mike Rabel coach team at home, Like I just

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<v Speaker 2>I can't do it. I do think there's a chance

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<v Speaker 2>that Vrabel can turn this into a mud wrestling match

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<v Speaker 2>and you bring the Chargers down to the Titans level.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm probably gonna avoid this one. It just gives

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<v Speaker 2>me a queasy feeling betting on the Chargers as a

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<v Speaker 2>road dug here. And we know the Chargers tortured history,

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<v Speaker 2>right somehow this is going to be a close game

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<v Speaker 2>and they're gonna find a way.

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<v Speaker 1>To look like this, And that's what I'm always so

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<v Speaker 1>scaped to go with the Chargers when they're obvious favorites

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<v Speaker 1>or just it just never seems to work out when

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<v Speaker 1>it's too good to be true for them. And speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of stay in the mud, we might as well just

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<v Speaker 1>you know, hang out there and talk about the Texans

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<v Speaker 1>taking on the Cults here. Texans are at home again,

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<v Speaker 1>this number kind of fluctuating. It seems like the Texans

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<v Speaker 1>are one point in some spots. Again, this line is

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<v Speaker 1>one that's probably going to be volatile here. Anthony Richardson

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<v Speaker 1>did get banged up here at the end of that game,

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<v Speaker 1>so a little bit more clarity on that injury will

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<v Speaker 1>make everybody feel warm and fuzzy. You saw Richardson run

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. I'd like to see him slide a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more. That's one one caveat there. It's really hard

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<v Speaker 1>to take too much out of that CJ. Stroud performance

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<v Speaker 1>to you on the road in Baltimore, really hostile environment,

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<v Speaker 1>tough place to play, no matter for anybody, let alone

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<v Speaker 1>a rookie. So pat the numbers forty and a half here,

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<v Speaker 1>do you think is stick with this year and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>played the under on the forty and a half with

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<v Speaker 1>these two offenses that you know, seem like they're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure things out because some sloppy play really led

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<v Speaker 1>to the Colts being in that game that maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have been quite so close in.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, look at this show.

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<v Speaker 2>We're early in the season and we're on the same

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<v Speaker 2>page already. We didn't even talk about this pre show

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<v Speaker 2>and you mentioned it. The only thing I would touch

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<v Speaker 2>in this game would be beyonder and especially with the

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<v Speaker 2>Houston offensive line so banged up. I think they were

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<v Speaker 2>down three starters yesterday and it kind of showed on

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<v Speaker 2>offense against the Ravens. Like Stroud played better than I

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<v Speaker 2>thought he would considering the state of his offensive line.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, Richardson has banged up like this is just

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be a pretty game. Offensively, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>really want to watch this game, let alone bet aside,

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<v Speaker 2>so I might just put the bet on the on

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<v Speaker 2>the under, not pay any attention, and you know, see

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<v Speaker 2>if I made any money come three o'clock Central time

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>Sam. Typically this you know, part in the season two

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<v Speaker 1>where teams are still ramping up, the unders tend to

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<v Speaker 1>come in a little bit more historically speaking, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think this is one of those instances? With this game here?

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<v Speaker 4>It is?

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<v Speaker 3>And I think Houston. Houston's defense is probably the best

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<v Speaker 3>unit of all of them on that are going to

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<v Speaker 3>be on the field on Sunday. They held the Ravens

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<v Speaker 3>offense to a negative expected points added per drop back

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<v Speaker 3>on Sunday as success rate of only thirty nine percent.

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<v Speaker 3>They pressured Lamar Jackson on thirty nine percent of his

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<v Speaker 3>drop backs and sacked him on fifteen percent.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think with the Colts.

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<v Speaker 3>Offensive line in, you know, as good as Anthony Richardson

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<v Speaker 3>is at avoiding sacks. I mean you could have said

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing about Lamar Jackson and they were able

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<v Speaker 3>to get to him. So I do think with this

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<v Speaker 3>low of a total. Obviously, the cult side of things

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<v Speaker 3>comes into play as a potential teaser leg if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to do that pushing them out to seven and

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<v Speaker 3>a half, if they're plus one and a half on

0:21:26.280 --> 0:21:26.879
<v Speaker 3>your book.

0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Baltimore Ravens and Lamar Jackson are now going to travel

0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:32.520
<v Speaker 1>after a big win against Houston last week, They're going

0:21:32.560 --> 0:21:35.760
<v Speaker 1>to travel Cincinnati, who, let's be honest, did not look good.

0:21:35.800 --> 0:21:38.760
<v Speaker 1>And this is a fascinating situation here. So the Bengals

0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:41.720
<v Speaker 1>get the three right now. Everyone's just kind of sitting

0:21:41.760 --> 0:21:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and waiting here. And for those of you who don't remember,

0:21:44.320 --> 0:21:46.200
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals came out of the gates slow last year

0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:48.879
<v Speaker 1>too ohing two. Joe Burrow never seems to have a

0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:52.600
<v Speaker 1>normal offseason no matter what happens. So I, for one, Sam,

0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:54.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm just not going to take too much out of this.

0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:57.840
<v Speaker 1>The Bengals are favorites. I think they should be favorites.

0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I think the Bengals are going to win this football game.

0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:02.080
<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day. The number for this

0:22:02.119 --> 0:22:04.080
<v Speaker 1>game is forty five and a half. I don't see

0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:06.720
<v Speaker 1>any early value on this. I was hoping that we

0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:10.280
<v Speaker 1>would see potentially maybe over the week, that people would

0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:11.879
<v Speaker 1>start to maybe bet the Ravens and all of a

0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.359
<v Speaker 1>sudden this number would move a little bit, and maybe

0:22:14.359 --> 0:22:16.439
<v Speaker 1>it will. Do you think this game does move as

0:22:16.480 --> 0:22:19.520
<v Speaker 1>people have more time to sit with how bad Joe

0:22:19.520 --> 0:22:22.280
<v Speaker 1>Burrow and the Bengals were, or do you think they're

0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:24.600
<v Speaker 1>just going to believe and how good Joe Burrow and

0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:27.080
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals have been and this number is going to hold.

0:22:28.119 --> 0:22:29.520
<v Speaker 4>I think it stays about the same.

0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:32.119
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the one big question on the Ravens side

0:22:32.359 --> 0:22:37.160
<v Speaker 3>is Mark Andrew's health is decent. As the safe Flowers

0:22:37.280 --> 0:22:40.359
<v Speaker 3>and Rashad Bateman played in the game in Houston, I

0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:43.280
<v Speaker 3>just mentioned how poor they were on a per drop

0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:46.440
<v Speaker 3>back basis. I mean, the Bengals are favored by three

0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:49.280
<v Speaker 3>at home, depending on how much you account towards home

0:22:49.280 --> 0:22:53.320
<v Speaker 3>field advantage. That makes this almost close to a pick

0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:56.520
<v Speaker 3>on a neutral field. And that's sort of where it

0:22:56.520 --> 0:23:00.480
<v Speaker 3>feels like these teams are just you know, the offense

0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:03.640
<v Speaker 3>didn't look great, even though it's you know, this new

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:09.720
<v Speaker 3>explosive offense from Todd Monkin. The Bengals looked absolutely atrocious.

0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:13.720
<v Speaker 3>But on the whole, I think we expect the Bengals

0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:16.600
<v Speaker 3>to come back, So I honestly think this line is

0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:19.679
<v Speaker 3>right about perfect where it is right now, both the

0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:22.600
<v Speaker 3>total and the side, So I'm not touching it right now.

0:23:22.680 --> 0:23:25.439
<v Speaker 3>I'm waiting to see what happens with Mark Andrews and

0:23:25.520 --> 0:23:28.400
<v Speaker 3>then potentially playing the Ravens.

0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:32.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's the interesting play is if Andrews' health gets better,

0:23:32.359 --> 0:23:34.159
<v Speaker 1>maybe you do go to the opposite side and maybe it's

0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 1>another zero to two stard for the Bengals. Pat, But

0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:38.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of where Sam is, which is this just

0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:41.080
<v Speaker 1>feels right. I still believe in the Cincinnati Bengals. One

0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:43.040
<v Speaker 1>bad week is not going to change after me, especially

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:45.560
<v Speaker 1>with the bad weather, especially with the ferocious pass rush

0:23:45.760 --> 0:23:47.760
<v Speaker 1>with Miles Garrett that they have and a guy who

0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:50.520
<v Speaker 1>was really, you know, just trying to get back in

0:23:50.680 --> 0:23:53.320
<v Speaker 1>action and you could tell things were just off. They

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:55.480
<v Speaker 1>were out of sync. And I can only imagine a

0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:58.359
<v Speaker 1>full healthy week of practice hopefully things get better for

0:23:58.359 --> 0:23:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the Bengals. But how do you see this one? Pat?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and we know that Week one is often sort

0:24:03.040 --> 0:24:05.520
<v Speaker 2>of an extension of the preseason with how little the

0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:09.960
<v Speaker 2>starters play in the new three week NFL preseason, But man,

0:24:10.040 --> 0:24:14.520
<v Speaker 2>I just cannot bet the Bengals after what I saw yesterday,

0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 2>and I watched a lot of that game, even though

0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:19.960
<v Speaker 2>the Bengals offense was making my eyeballs bleed, Like I

0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:25.640
<v Speaker 2>just subjected myself to that torture and the six first downs,

0:24:25.760 --> 0:24:28.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness. I just have a hard time believing

0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:31.560
<v Speaker 2>they can suddenly stomp the gas pedal and kick it

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:35.600
<v Speaker 2>in against a good Ravens defense. And like, I'd be

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:38.200
<v Speaker 2>all the more eager to take this game if I thought,

0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:42.200
<v Speaker 2>if I was totally confident Lamar Jackson could take advantage

0:24:42.200 --> 0:24:44.320
<v Speaker 2>of the Bengals safeties. You know, they no longer have

0:24:44.440 --> 0:24:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Jesse Bates back. There was intercepting passes for the Falcons yesterday.

0:24:48.040 --> 0:24:52.440
<v Speaker 2>They've no longer got Von Bell back there. So man,

0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:55.199
<v Speaker 2>as much as the Ravens passing game looked out of

0:24:55.280 --> 0:24:58.480
<v Speaker 2>sank everyone except say Flowers at least yesterday. Like, I

0:24:58.880 --> 0:25:01.480
<v Speaker 2>want to play the raven this game because I just

0:25:02.359 --> 0:25:04.359
<v Speaker 2>I have a hard time like the Ravens do not

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.679
<v Speaker 2>play many clunkers. It's pretty rare for the Ravens to

0:25:07.680 --> 0:25:09.640
<v Speaker 2>go out there and lay an egg. They're usually gonna

0:25:09.680 --> 0:25:12.320
<v Speaker 2>give you their best shot under John Harbaugh. And I

0:25:12.400 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 2>just don't know if the Bengals can take a good

0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.680
<v Speaker 2>punch with the way they looked in Week one.

0:25:17.200 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Interesting. You know, all off season, Pat, I talked about it.

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:21.399
<v Speaker 1>I was like losing Von Bell and Jesse Bates, I

0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:23.400
<v Speaker 1>think is a little Everyone kept telling me that's okay,

0:25:23.440 --> 0:25:25.400
<v Speaker 1>We're getting younger and more athletic, and maybe that's true,

0:25:25.440 --> 0:25:28.280
<v Speaker 1>but they're not getting more experienced. And I think that's

0:25:28.280 --> 0:25:30.480
<v Speaker 1>something you saw in this first week here that made

0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:33.159
<v Speaker 1>a difference in that game. The Chiefs have had a

0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:37.120
<v Speaker 1>long time to think long and hard about what went

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:39.920
<v Speaker 1>wrong for them on opening night. They are still three

0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:43.640
<v Speaker 1>point favorites going on the road for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:45.840
<v Speaker 1>The number for this one is fifty one and a half. Now, look,

0:25:46.080 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Kevin Ridley look good, Say Jones look good. Trevor Lawrence

0:25:48.800 --> 0:25:51.000
<v Speaker 1>played well. So you know, I think Jacksonville, you know,

0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:52.879
<v Speaker 1>went in their tough Indivision game on the road. They

0:25:52.920 --> 0:25:54.960
<v Speaker 1>came out with the w. That's all the matter is

0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:57.400
<v Speaker 1>now they go home. But Pat, let's be honest. If

0:25:57.640 --> 0:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the Kansas City Chiefs had stopped the mud hole like

0:26:01.080 --> 0:26:03.720
<v Speaker 1>they should have in the Detroit Lions and Canarius Tony

0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>caught anything and they won by ten points, this would

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:09.160
<v Speaker 1>not be three. Therefore, I'm on Kansas City and I'm

0:26:09.200 --> 0:26:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Kansas City right now because I think as more people

0:26:11.080 --> 0:26:12.560
<v Speaker 1>have time to think about this one, I think more

0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:14.480
<v Speaker 1>people are gonna start to gravitate towards that idea.

0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:17.119
<v Speaker 2>What do you think, Yeah, we've got Andy Reid with

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:20.240
<v Speaker 2>extra prep time, the Chiefs in a rare hole since

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 2>they haven't lost a Week one game since I believe

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:23.440
<v Speaker 2>twenty fourteen.

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:24.639
<v Speaker 5>So maybe a little more.

0:26:24.600 --> 0:26:27.879
<v Speaker 2>Urgency for the Chiefs after, you know, in eight years

0:26:27.920 --> 0:26:32.400
<v Speaker 2>of winning Week one and Joe, we know which way

0:26:32.440 --> 0:26:33.960
<v Speaker 2>the line is going to move if we get any

0:26:34.000 --> 0:26:37.760
<v Speaker 2>positive news on the Travis Kelce injury front or the

0:26:37.840 --> 0:26:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Chris Jones contract front.

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:41.840
<v Speaker 5>So like suddenly you're not.

0:26:42.040 --> 0:26:44.760
<v Speaker 1>Honestly pat They got to the quarterback, they put pressure

0:26:44.800 --> 0:26:47.880
<v Speaker 1>on Jared Goff, like you know, Nick Bolton was over there,

0:26:47.880 --> 0:26:49.480
<v Speaker 1>going over the top in the middle there like that.

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't even a matter of like putting pressure on

0:26:52.200 --> 0:26:54.919
<v Speaker 1>and Chris Jones's presence, although important on the field, it's

0:26:55.000 --> 0:26:56.880
<v Speaker 1>not why they lost that game. They lost that game

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:59.960
<v Speaker 1>because just the ineptitude of the wide receiver record. Again

0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:02.119
<v Speaker 1>on the same page here were Patrick Maholmes. But I

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:03.840
<v Speaker 1>don't think I'm going to bet on that happening two

0:27:03.840 --> 0:27:04.400
<v Speaker 1>weeks in a row.

0:27:04.400 --> 0:27:07.800
<v Speaker 5>Are you agreed? Agreed, and so get it now.

0:27:07.880 --> 0:27:11.400
<v Speaker 2>But we know that the news on those guys would

0:27:11.520 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 2>change the line, Joe, and right now you're getting them

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 2>at less than you know, less than a field goal

0:27:17.720 --> 0:27:20.680
<v Speaker 2>for sure, because if you don't grab the Chiefs, and

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:24.359
<v Speaker 2>Chiefs now at minus two and a half on DraftKings

0:27:24.400 --> 0:27:26.639
<v Speaker 2>as of this morning, I think it could go to

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:28.280
<v Speaker 2>four four and a half if we know they have

0:27:28.359 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 2>Kelsey and Jones.

0:27:29.600 --> 0:27:31.399
<v Speaker 1>Sam, do you see things going in that same direction

0:27:31.480 --> 0:27:33.400
<v Speaker 1>if you start to get better buzz as the week

0:27:33.440 --> 0:27:35.120
<v Speaker 1>goes on that this number is going to grow here,

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:36.840
<v Speaker 1>especially if Kelsey's back for this one.

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 4>I do think so.

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:41.879
<v Speaker 3>I was pretty surprised last Thursday how much the line

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:45.720
<v Speaker 3>had moved after the Kelsey news and then confirmation that

0:27:45.800 --> 0:27:49.720
<v Speaker 3>Chris Jones wasn't going to play. I think individually neither

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:52.680
<v Speaker 3>of them are worth the amount of points that the

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:56.600
<v Speaker 3>line moved, but together they are the second and third

0:27:56.640 --> 0:28:00.840
<v Speaker 3>best players on the Kansas City Chiefs, so to get

0:28:00.920 --> 0:28:03.400
<v Speaker 3>potentially both of them back would be huge. I do

0:28:03.480 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 3>think that Chris Jones might have the bigger impact on

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:10.719
<v Speaker 3>this game if he is able to play. And I

0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:13.840
<v Speaker 3>say that because the Jaguars offensive line did not look great.

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 3>I think one of their starters went down part way

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:18.200
<v Speaker 3>through the game. I can't recall if he came back,

0:28:18.280 --> 0:28:22.480
<v Speaker 3>but yes, yes, that's what I was thinking of. So

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.280
<v Speaker 3>if Chris Jones was back, I mean again, we saw

0:28:26.400 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 3>that Kansas City was able to get some pressure on

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Jared Goff and Detroit has one of the best offensive

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.240
<v Speaker 3>lines in the league. If if they're at full strength

0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:40.200
<v Speaker 3>against this Jaguars team, I think that Kansas City could

0:28:40.240 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 3>just blow them away. I echo all of the sentiment

0:28:42.760 --> 0:28:45.760
<v Speaker 3>you guys made about the drops and those being super

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:49.840
<v Speaker 3>fluky and not likely going to happen two weeks in

0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 3>a row.

0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 1>The Rams, who historically have given the forty nine ers

0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:57.640
<v Speaker 1>fits the last few years, they are seven point underdogs

0:28:57.680 --> 0:28:59.479
<v Speaker 1>at home against the forty nine ers who went out

0:28:59.520 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 1>there to non conference game on the road and beat

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 1>the crap out of the Pittsburgh Yards. Let's be honest,

0:29:04.400 --> 0:29:07.560
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what they did. This one's fascinating to me. Sam.

0:29:07.600 --> 0:29:10.040
<v Speaker 1>The numbers forty two and a half, the line of

0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>seven Pukinakua played very well. The Rams are coming off

0:29:14.200 --> 0:29:17.680
<v Speaker 1>a huge road victory in their division. I love the

0:29:17.760 --> 0:29:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Rams in this game, Am I wrong?

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 4>I think so?

0:29:21.320 --> 0:29:25.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, okay, the lines actually moved another point. The

0:29:26.040 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 3>forty nine Ers are now favored by eight points, which

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:32.840
<v Speaker 3>I think is more about confidence in the forty nine

0:29:32.960 --> 0:29:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Ers as a team than you know, disbarring what happened

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:42.240
<v Speaker 3>with the Rams in their game. I mean, the defense

0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 3>was dominant, the offense was clicking on all cylinders, brock

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:49.640
<v Speaker 3>Perty was making some plays, and so I think that

0:29:50.320 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 3>again laying the points, Laying eight points is going to

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 3>be is a lot in a division game. I think

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.760
<v Speaker 3>this is another opportunity to tease the forty nine Ers

0:29:58.760 --> 0:30:03.040
<v Speaker 3>down to two points, because again I say, there's I

0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 3>don't see a situation in which the the Rams come

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:07.920
<v Speaker 3>away with a win here. Obviously.

0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 4>I think I saw said the same thing last week.

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, you might have said the same

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 1>thing last eight times they've met, though, because the forty

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:17.040
<v Speaker 1>nine Ers always look like the better team on paper,

0:30:17.080 --> 0:30:20.520
<v Speaker 1>and the forty nine Ers again struggle against the Rams,

0:30:20.560 --> 0:30:23.280
<v Speaker 1>that fits that. That's I think what's so important. This

0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:25.000
<v Speaker 1>is one of those games I think that's really stands

0:30:25.040 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>out to me because Matthew Stafford is not Kenny Pickett,

0:30:27.720 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>so they're gonna meet another quarterback here. It's very different.

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:32.640
<v Speaker 1>So Fits, when you're looking at the do you do

0:30:32.680 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 1>you think that maybe again, this is one of those

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:37.360
<v Speaker 1>traps where we feel so good about the forty nine ers,

0:30:37.360 --> 0:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>will look so good week one, but we forget, Hey,

0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:42.080
<v Speaker 1>this is a whole other set of circumstances and this

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 1>is a team in the Rams Fits that has really

0:30:44.960 --> 0:30:47.200
<v Speaker 1>given them problems over the last few seasons.

0:30:47.840 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 5>Well, Joe, I went back and looked at that.

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:51.800
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if it was maybe like earlier in the

0:30:51.840 --> 0:30:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Sean McVay era, that the Rams were sort of had

0:30:55.440 --> 0:30:57.520
<v Speaker 2>the Niners number, because it looks like the Niners of

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:01.120
<v Speaker 2>one eight of the last nine in this series.

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:02.520
<v Speaker 5>And like some of those games were close.

0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the ATS record would be for

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.280
<v Speaker 2>the forty nine ers, but yeah, I mean, like I

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 2>was surprised by how well the Rams defense played against Seattle,

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 2>or maybe the Seahawks offense was just that bad, and

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 2>I have a hard time seeing the Rams be able

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:20.400
<v Speaker 2>to stop this forty nine Ers offense, which looked so

0:31:20.560 --> 0:31:23.400
<v Speaker 2>machine like against a very good Pittsburgh defense.

0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah in week.

0:31:24.600 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 2>One, so yeah, I mean like hearing that this has

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 2>gone from seven to eight makes me a little nervous.

0:31:30.720 --> 0:31:33.280
<v Speaker 2>Like I love getting it at an even seven points,

0:31:33.320 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 2>but push it past the touchdown, I get a little

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 2>more nervous. As of now, I'm just going to lay

0:31:37.800 --> 0:31:38.360
<v Speaker 2>off this game.

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:41.000
<v Speaker 1>I think, give me the rams. I don't know, I'm

0:31:41.040 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 1>feeling crazy. I don't know why I'm so anti forty

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 1>nine er this year. I don't know. Bruckburdy look great,

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>Everything looked great. I'm just not there yet. I need

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>to see it again New York. I don't know if

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I need to see them again. They are five point under,

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:54.360
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, five point favorites going on the road to Arizona.

0:31:54.960 --> 0:31:57.880
<v Speaker 1>That feels right. Fits again, I don't know. This is

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:00.000
<v Speaker 1>the game you want to get involved in right here.

0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 1>Thirty eight and a half is the number of most

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:04.720
<v Speaker 1>spots here. Some I'm thirty eight as well. The Giants

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 1>looked awful. They got nothing done. This is going to

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:09.320
<v Speaker 1>be a rough week for them. Fits. Do you think

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:10.680
<v Speaker 1>they take it out on the Cardinals here?

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:13.960
<v Speaker 5>Betters were so mortified by that performance.

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:14.160
<v Speaker 1>Joe.

0:32:14.200 --> 0:32:17.240
<v Speaker 2>It's already down to four and a half I guess

0:32:17.240 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 2>people are betting the Cardinals on this, but man, I

0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 2>feel like the Giants have to bounce back.

0:32:22.400 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 5>Don't they like that?

0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:26.600
<v Speaker 2>That Actually their first drive of the game, they were

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.720
<v Speaker 2>going right downfield. Then what Daniel Jones like there was

0:32:29.760 --> 0:32:32.680
<v Speaker 2>a fumbled snap or something. They got thrown back, knock

0:32:32.760 --> 0:32:36.440
<v Speaker 2>back to like outside the twenty five yard line, get

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 2>the field goal blocked and run in for a touchdown,

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 2>and everything just snowballed from there. So, man, I feel

0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 2>like they're gonna bounce back. I still have a lot

0:32:45.480 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 2>of faith in Brian Dable as a head coach. I

0:32:47.440 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 2>think he's gonna circle the wagons this week and you know,

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 2>beat a team that we really don't know if they

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.480
<v Speaker 2>actually want to win games this year. With the Cardinals,

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean they are. They are all in, I think

0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 2>in the Caleb Williams Derby. So you know, I'm going

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 2>to keep targeting the Cardinals to bet against as long

0:33:05.360 --> 0:33:07.760
<v Speaker 2>as the line stay reasonable enough and we don't get

0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 2>any of the college football realm of lines where we're

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.600
<v Speaker 2>seeing you know, twenty point spreads every week.

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:15.760
<v Speaker 1>Sam, I know it was as bad as it could

0:33:15.760 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 1>possibly get Sunday Night, but the Arizona Cardinals are also

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>theoretically as bad as a guest, do you think the

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 1>five is actually with the four and a half now?

0:33:24.280 --> 0:33:26.800
<v Speaker 1>Is still too much credit from what you didn't see

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:28.080
<v Speaker 1>out of the Giants yesterday?

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't think so. I think this is a good line.

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 3>I made it about four points before the end of

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:39.920
<v Speaker 3>the Sunday night football game. I think five is probably

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:43.320
<v Speaker 3>a good line too. And what take the Giants here?

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean they were playing what many pegged as the

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 3>best defense in the league in Dallas coming into the season,

0:33:50.800 --> 0:33:55.560
<v Speaker 3>so their struggles on offense are not as surprising as

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 3>I think many people thought it was. Now granted, their

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 3>entire offenses basically Darren Waller and Saquon Barkley, but I

0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:08.160
<v Speaker 3>think they'll have so much more success against Arizona's defense

0:34:08.440 --> 0:34:13.520
<v Speaker 3>than Dallas's defense. I think Daniel Jones is a much

0:34:13.520 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 3>better quarterback at least right now than Sam Howell is,

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:19.600
<v Speaker 3>and so I'd be laying the points with the Giants here.

0:34:19.680 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 3>I think this is a by low opportunity on the

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Giants and a potential for them to bounce back in

0:34:26.000 --> 0:34:26.520
<v Speaker 3>a big way.

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 1>We'll see if the line changes after Monday Night Football

0:34:29.080 --> 0:34:31.279
<v Speaker 1>but Dallas is three point favorites at home against the Jets,

0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:33.920
<v Speaker 1>and AT's go to the Jets defense is with that

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 1>offensive line struggling a little bit in preseason, Sam, if

0:34:38.120 --> 0:34:41.320
<v Speaker 1>you're watching Micah Parsons get to the quarterback on Sunday

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Night and watching some of the problems that they were

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 1>giving Daniel Jones, I am. I'm loving the Cowboys out

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 1>of this game at the three, at the minus one

0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:52.719
<v Speaker 1>ten right now forty five and a half depending on

0:34:52.800 --> 0:34:54.560
<v Speaker 1>the sportsbook. That's where the number is in terms of

0:34:54.560 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 1>the total. But I don't want to take too much

0:34:57.000 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>out of Week one and now how good teams look,

0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:02.160
<v Speaker 1>how good you bad teams can also look. But the

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 1>Dallas Cowboys defense looks like it's for real, and they

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:06.799
<v Speaker 1>were for real last year too, one of the better

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:10.320
<v Speaker 1>fantasy defenses around. Do you think that this one should

0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:11.080
<v Speaker 1>be this close?

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 4>I do think so.

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:17.840
<v Speaker 3>I you know, I mentioned earlier that the game tonight

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:21.720
<v Speaker 3>won't have much impact on Buffalo's outlook rest of season,

0:35:21.760 --> 0:35:24.080
<v Speaker 3>but I think it could change a lot about New

0:35:24.200 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 3>York's outlook rest of season, because again, we don't know

0:35:28.239 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 3>what this offense is going to look like with Aaron Rodgers.

0:35:31.400 --> 0:35:33.879
<v Speaker 3>I you know, the defense is supposed to be great,

0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:37.040
<v Speaker 3>but can they contain Josh Allen like they had in

0:35:37.120 --> 0:35:40.399
<v Speaker 3>the past. I think where I would attack this game

0:35:40.640 --> 0:35:45.440
<v Speaker 3>is the under Aaron Rodgers is notoriously a slow guy.

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:48.840
<v Speaker 3>He drains the play clock down to the last second.

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:53.440
<v Speaker 3>Both of these defenses are again incredible. New York has

0:35:53.480 --> 0:35:56.760
<v Speaker 3>some issues on the offensive line. Dallas I think still

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:59.839
<v Speaker 3>wants to run the ball a bit more when they can,

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:03.319
<v Speaker 3>and so I would take under forty six if you

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:03.960
<v Speaker 3>can get.

0:36:03.800 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 1>That, all right, Pat, how do you feel about this one?

0:36:06.320 --> 0:36:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm very much on the Cowboys side of this game

0:36:08.560 --> 0:36:10.880
<v Speaker 1>no matter what happens good or bad for the Jets tonight.

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:15.200
<v Speaker 1>Your thoughts on Jets and Cowboys? Do you see any

0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:16.000
<v Speaker 1>early value?

0:36:16.560 --> 0:36:16.799
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 2>I kind of feel the same way Sam does about

0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:20.960
<v Speaker 2>this game, like I don't want to touch either side.

0:36:20.760 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 5>Jets Yets.

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:25.160
<v Speaker 2>I agree with your takes on the Cowboys, Joe. You know,

0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:27.799
<v Speaker 2>I was kind of in on the Cowboys preseason and

0:36:27.880 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 2>have some futures on them to win the NFC and

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:32.400
<v Speaker 2>win the Super Bowl.

0:36:33.120 --> 0:36:34.520
<v Speaker 5>But I mean I.

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 2>Do think the Jets have If you're going to keep

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:41.000
<v Speaker 2>giving me Jets totals in the mid forties. As we

0:36:41.040 --> 0:36:43.440
<v Speaker 2>get in Week one with Bill's Jets, and as we

0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 2>get in Week two with Cowboys Jets, I'm going to

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.799
<v Speaker 2>keep pounding the under because I think the Jets might

0:36:48.880 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 2>have the best defense in the league, or at least

0:36:51.239 --> 0:36:55.360
<v Speaker 2>certainly right up there with Dallas, San Francisco, Philadelphia. And

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:58.719
<v Speaker 2>as you mentioned, Joe, I mean, the Jets offensive line

0:36:58.760 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 2>is a row of New York subway turnstiles, So I mean,

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:05.280
<v Speaker 2>like that's gonna be a This is an under team

0:37:05.480 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 2>absolutely with Micah Parsons. I mean, how are they gonna

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 2>block Micah Parsons.

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:11.840
<v Speaker 1>They're not and this and that's gonna cause the turnovers,

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 1>and that's gonna cost some problems. And that's why I'm

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:15.840
<v Speaker 1>more on the Dallas side of this game than the total,

0:37:15.880 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 1>because I fear some of those turnovers, if they turn

0:37:18.040 --> 0:37:21.200
<v Speaker 1>into points, that's gonna be a problem for that total number.

0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 1>That could be because look look what happened on Sunday.

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Think it would be a very big repeat of that.

0:37:25.520 --> 0:37:28.600
<v Speaker 1>The Broncos hosting the Commanders. The Broncos are three and

0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:30.719
<v Speaker 1>a half point home favorites. Their home debut did not

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:34.239
<v Speaker 1>go well yesterday, FITZI, the number is forty for this one.

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:37.279
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea yet of who these teams really are.

0:37:37.360 --> 0:37:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm running from this game.

0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:40.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one of those teams. This is one of those

0:37:40.960 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 2>lines show. I just looked at it and threw my

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:44.399
<v Speaker 2>hands up in the air, like.

0:37:44.560 --> 0:37:46.359
<v Speaker 1>No, okay, you can have it, Sam, you want anything

0:37:46.400 --> 0:37:48.040
<v Speaker 1>on this one, or you want to hard pass this one.

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:51.760
<v Speaker 3>I'd take Washington and the points here.

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:37:52.680 --> 0:37:56.480
<v Speaker 3>Denver's offense still looks out of sorts. I think Washington's

0:37:56.520 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 3>defense is incredible. That defensive line you know, was wrecking

0:38:00.640 --> 0:38:03.800
<v Speaker 3>Arizona's offensive line. I don't think Denver's offensive line is

0:38:04.120 --> 0:38:08.759
<v Speaker 3>that great either. Denver's offense again, it just looks out

0:38:08.760 --> 0:38:11.279
<v Speaker 3>of sorts. I think they still have a ways to

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:14.319
<v Speaker 3>go to get to where they want to be. Such

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 3>a low total two, I think they keep this game

0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:22.960
<v Speaker 3>close and have the potential to even win outright against Denver.

0:38:23.320 --> 0:38:25.439
<v Speaker 1>All Right, The New England Patriots are at home again

0:38:25.480 --> 0:38:28.920
<v Speaker 1>two weeks in a row. They are again home underdogs.

0:38:28.960 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 1>Plus two is the number against the Miami Dolphins, who

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:33.040
<v Speaker 1>put on a show there with Tyreek Hill and Tuatungua

0:38:33.080 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Biloa in Los Angeles if you like the patch for

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:37.920
<v Speaker 1>the upset plus one fourteen on the money line, but

0:38:38.000 --> 0:38:40.399
<v Speaker 1>forty five and a half is the number for this one, Sam,

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:41.960
<v Speaker 1>do you see any early value here?

0:38:42.400 --> 0:38:44.520
<v Speaker 3>I gotta go with Miami. I mean, their offense just

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 3>looked so good. New England plays a decent amount of

0:38:47.600 --> 0:38:50.160
<v Speaker 3>man coverage and that I don't know that there's anyone

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:55.120
<v Speaker 3>that can can cover this Tyreek and Watto combination. You know,

0:38:55.160 --> 0:38:57.960
<v Speaker 3>it's New England's defense is great, and they did do

0:38:58.040 --> 0:39:03.319
<v Speaker 3>a lot to stifle Philadelphia's offense. But again, we saw

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:07.320
<v Speaker 3>on display yesterday what Miami's offense can do, how.

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:08.160
<v Speaker 4>Explosive they are.

0:39:08.280 --> 0:39:11.719
<v Speaker 3>Tool was making some great throws, and I do think

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:15.400
<v Speaker 3>Miami's defense does have a little bit of work to do.

0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 3>They didn't play great against the Chargers, but this New

0:39:19.200 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 3>England offense is not nearly as daunting as the Chargers

0:39:23.160 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 3>offense is. So I'll take the minus two with Miami here.

0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.359
<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, they did hold the Eagles to one

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:32.600
<v Speaker 1>offensive touchdown. Does that matter to you at all?

0:39:32.640 --> 0:39:32.839
<v Speaker 5>Here?

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Pat Do you think Miami comes out here a little

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:37.399
<v Speaker 1>flat after a huge output last week?

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:38.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:39:38.719 --> 0:39:40.759
<v Speaker 2>Joe, I mean you're a Patriots fan. But I can

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 2>assure you I'm not just pandering to you when I

0:39:43.280 --> 0:39:46.160
<v Speaker 2>say that I like the Patriots and have already bet

0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:47.400
<v Speaker 2>the Patriots.

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:47.399
<v Speaker 5>In this game.

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:49.920
<v Speaker 2>I just it feels like the Dolphins are getting a

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:52.239
<v Speaker 2>little bit too much credit with this line for that,

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:57.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, undisputedly impressive victory against the Chargers, and it

0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.720
<v Speaker 2>doesn't feel like the Pats are getting quite enough credit

0:39:59.760 --> 0:40:01.800
<v Speaker 2>for putting up a really good fight. As I said,

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:04.120
<v Speaker 2>they outgained the Eagles by one hundred and thirty one

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:06.880
<v Speaker 2>yards in that game in Week one. Now Miami has

0:40:06.920 --> 0:40:09.280
<v Speaker 2>to go from playing on the West coast to playing

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 2>in the Northeast. It's the NFL's hurricane season avoidance schedule,

0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:17.080
<v Speaker 2>and that's a pretty tough two week opening road stretch.

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:19.160
<v Speaker 2>So I kind of like the Patriots here for a

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 2>second straight week at home, regrouping after the tough loss

0:40:22.600 --> 0:40:24.520
<v Speaker 2>to the Philadelphia Eagles in Week one.

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:26.759
<v Speaker 1>All right, two more Prime times talk about here, the

0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:29.480
<v Speaker 1>New Orleans Saints and the Carolina Panthers. The Panthers are

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:32.080
<v Speaker 1>at home. They are two and a half point underdogs

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:33.759
<v Speaker 1>at home to the Saints. Forty and a half is

0:40:33.800 --> 0:40:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the number here. Saints defense look pretty good. This line

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:39.400
<v Speaker 1>feels about right to me. I don't see any value, Papa,

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:41.320
<v Speaker 1>to you.

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 5>Nope, no value.

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 2>You know, I just don't quite believe in the Saints

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:46.479
<v Speaker 2>enough to bet them as a three point road dog

0:40:46.800 --> 0:40:47.200
<v Speaker 2>or roads.

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:49.359
<v Speaker 1>Do you agree here? What you're just kind of waiting

0:40:49.360 --> 0:40:50.839
<v Speaker 1>and seeing with these teams a little bit more?

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:52.400
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:57.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's you know, it's tough because again, the Saints,

0:40:57.840 --> 0:41:00.919
<v Speaker 3>I think as a whole are the better team, but man,

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:03.759
<v Speaker 3>laying three points with them just doesn't feel right.

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:05.200
<v Speaker 4>Hit this point all right?

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Last one here, Pittsburgh Steelers one and a half point underdogs.

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:12.319
<v Speaker 1>Here we go again, Sam, the Cleveland Browns are coming

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:14.960
<v Speaker 1>to town. Cleveland looked really sharp, really good, and I

0:41:15.000 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 1>think Cleveland's one of those teams that needed to get

0:41:16.680 --> 0:41:19.120
<v Speaker 1>off to a good start. Answer some questions about Deshaun Watson,

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:21.360
<v Speaker 1>answer some questions about who this team's gonna be and

0:41:21.560 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 1>how they're gonna play this year. They did that, but

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.800
<v Speaker 1>as the Indivision game, we all know you can basically

0:41:26.960 --> 0:41:28.640
<v Speaker 1>just erase that again because you just never know Week

0:41:28.680 --> 0:41:30.239
<v Speaker 1>two week what's gonna happen. Forty two and a half

0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:33.200
<v Speaker 1>is the number, Sam, do you think Pittsburgh rebounds. Do

0:41:33.280 --> 0:41:36.280
<v Speaker 1>you think Cleveland rolls Pittsburgh two weeks in a row.

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:40.200
<v Speaker 3>I don't think Pittsburgh rebounds, but I also don't think

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:44.640
<v Speaker 3>Cleveland rolls quite again, I mean, Cleveland's defense looked tremendous.

0:41:44.640 --> 0:41:46.760
<v Speaker 3>I do think we need to give them some credits

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:51.319
<v Speaker 3>with bringing in Jim Schwartz as their defensive coordinator this offseason.

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:55.600
<v Speaker 3>The Steelers offense looked out of sorts. It seems like

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:59.279
<v Speaker 3>they're going to be without Deontay Johnson as well, and

0:41:59.360 --> 0:42:04.719
<v Speaker 3>so I as good as the you know, Brown's offensive

0:42:04.800 --> 0:42:09.680
<v Speaker 3>output was on Sunday, Deshaun Watson still looked out of sorts.

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:15.080
<v Speaker 3>He was missing some passes and it just didn't look

0:42:15.239 --> 0:42:18.520
<v Speaker 3>very pretty. So I'm staying away from this game to

0:42:19.080 --> 0:42:21.920
<v Speaker 3>I think if I was going to pick something, it

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.560
<v Speaker 3>would be the under Right now, it looks like the

0:42:24.600 --> 0:42:27.440
<v Speaker 3>line is dropping to about forty and a half or

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:30.920
<v Speaker 3>forty on some books, which is is low. But again

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 3>it's the AFC North. I hate to pull that card,

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:36.920
<v Speaker 3>but both of these defenses I think can be up

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:38.960
<v Speaker 3>to the task to stop the opposing offense.

0:42:39.320 --> 0:42:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Fits any input here on this one. Here, this is

0:42:41.640 --> 0:42:43.719
<v Speaker 1>a tough one. To tight one. Vegas is telling you so.

0:42:44.520 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Joe, the Steelers hurt me so much. They turned

0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:48.480
<v Speaker 2>what should have been a winning Week one into a

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<v Speaker 2>break even Week one. So I'm gonna maybe I'll just

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<v Speaker 2>double up to catch up on Steelers games this week,

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<v Speaker 2>because there you go. You know, last week from from

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<v Speaker 2>the Steelers bye week on, they were sick in the

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<v Speaker 2>NFL and overall DVOA, and then they look terrific in

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty twenty three preseason. So I was really surprised

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<v Speaker 2>that they laid an egg as big as they did

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<v Speaker 2>in Week one against the forty nine Ers. And I

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<v Speaker 2>suspect we will not see consecutive poor performances under Mike Tomlin.

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<v Speaker 2>That the sort of thing just doesn't happen under Mike

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<v Speaker 2>Tomlin with the Steelers, So I like them to rebound

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<v Speaker 2>against a Browns team that should come in again. Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>it's the formula fat and happy against very angry and bitter.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna bet the angry better team this time.

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<v Speaker 1>You listen to fits is probably right. I'm scared to death.

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<v Speaker 1>I need some more time to marry on this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Joey P. We'll see you next time, kids,