Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody in the betting pros. It's time to
Speaker 1: place your bets. It is me Joey p joe Pisipia,
Speaker 1: and it's time already if you can believe it. To
Speaker 1: look ahead to week two in the NFL. Some fun
Speaker 1: things happening in week one, some not some fun things
Speaker 1: as well. Got that Cleveland upset that felt really good.
Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steeler one did not go well. Oh God.
Speaker 1: Speaking of not going well, how about those Giants. That
Speaker 1: was a tough loss there on Sunday night football in
Speaker 1: front of the entire world. But again, it's only week one,
Speaker 1: So how much are we gonna take out of that
Speaker 1: and how much are we gonna try to take advantage
Speaker 1: of it in the early lines. That's what today is about.
Speaker 1: And to help me do it, of course, is Pat
Speaker 1: Fitzmorris back again as always every Monday, and our new
Speaker 1: best friend Sam Hoppin, who is also our data analyst wizard,
Speaker 1: who is gonna give you some hard, cold facts based
Speaker 1: on math and science. They're gonna help you make some bets.
Speaker 1: And that sounds like a good thing to me. FITZI,
Speaker 1: I know we kind of talked about this in week
Speaker 1: one some of the things that went on there. I
Speaker 1: gotta say, the one thing too that really came out
Speaker 1: of the blue for me was I was stunned that
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers went into Minnesota and one. I
Speaker 1: didn't think there was any way that that was going
Speaker 1: to happen. What was the most surprising outcome of all
Speaker 1: the games for you in Week one?
Speaker 2: The Bengals getting six first downs, Joe, Like, I did
Speaker 2: not see that one coming at all, you know, Like,
Speaker 2: I thought that was going to be a pretty close
Speaker 2: game and just a completely one sided affair. So like
Speaker 2: the Bengals are a team, I have no idea what
Speaker 2: to make of as we head into Week two, right now?
Speaker 1: All right, Sam, your week one obviously tumultuous, I'm sure
Speaker 1: like most people's. But was there one thing that was
Speaker 1: really surprising to you that you just did not see
Speaker 1: coming to kind of hit you in the face out
Speaker 1: of nowhere?
Speaker 3: I mean, it was the Rams over the Seahawks. For me,
Speaker 3: I didn't think the Rams had any shot of putting
Speaker 3: up more than ten points against the Seahawks defense, and
Speaker 3: they just put it on them, even without Cooper Cups.
Speaker 4: So that was pretty shocking to me.
Speaker 3: And then the Seahawks offense not really clicking like we
Speaker 3: had seen it last year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so a lot of things to get through and
Speaker 1: obviously looking at we too, we still got one more
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Speaker 1: And let's start here with the Minnesota Vikings and the
Speaker 1: Eagles Thursday night football. So no rest for the weary here.
Speaker 1: Probably in some ways, Pat, the best thing for the
Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings is a short week not to dwell on
Speaker 1: that terrible, horrible, no good loss. If you're looking right
Speaker 1: now early on here, it looks like the Eagles are
Speaker 1: seven and a half point home favorites. Minnesota will be
Speaker 1: going on the road. It's always tough to go on
Speaker 1: the road, especially early in the year in a short week.
Speaker 1: So does the seven and a half feel right here
Speaker 1: and the total at forty eight and a half early on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the line feels about right what it
Speaker 2: should be at But I think I'm inclined to lay
Speaker 2: the points here, Joe, And maybe you were a little
Speaker 2: more surprised by that Vikings toast stubbing in Week one
Speaker 2: than I was, But they are just they were so
Speaker 2: much worse than their twenty twenty two record. I mean,
Speaker 2: they were eleven to zero and one score games in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two, which will never see happen again. We'll
Speaker 2: never see a team have that kind of record and
Speaker 2: get out scored on the year. They were a bottom
Speaker 2: ten team in terms of overall DVA, and I think
Speaker 2: the Eagles can play a lot better.
Speaker 5: Than they did in Week one.
Speaker 2: They were out gained by one hundred and thirty one
Speaker 2: yards by the Patriots, still came away with the w
Speaker 2: but I think they can clean things up and become
Speaker 2: more of the well oiled machine we saw down the
Speaker 2: stretch last season, So I'm inclined to lay the points.
Speaker 2: I also kind of like the over because I think
Speaker 2: the Eagles are going to get it together on offense
Speaker 2: this week.
Speaker 1: Well, that was what I was going to bring up here, Sam,
Speaker 1: because the Eagles only had one offensive touchdown yesterday against
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Now, Patriots defense is always gonna come ready
Speaker 1: to play. You know, it was raining too up in Foxborough.
Speaker 1: A lot of factors, Tom Brady Day, all the things happening.
Speaker 1: But do you think maybe the seven and a half
Speaker 1: is giving the Eagles too much credit because that offense
Speaker 1: did not look great out of the gate here in
Speaker 1: Week one.
Speaker 4: I don't think it's giving them too much credit.
Speaker 3: I mean, last year we saw the Ladelphia and Minnesota
Speaker 3: play in primetime, and we all know how that disaster
Speaker 3: turned out for Minnesota. So I think that line is
Speaker 3: about right. I'm probably not touching it because I do
Speaker 3: think that Minnesota has, you know, a chance with potentially
Speaker 3: Philadelphia's offense sleeping a little bit, maybe could wake up
Speaker 3: this Thursday night. But I really like the overend this game.
Speaker 3: Minnesota's offense was moving the ball pretty decently yesterday and
Speaker 3: they had a couple costly turnovers in Tampa Bay's territory,
Speaker 3: so that stifled their drives quite a bit. So I
Speaker 3: think both of these offenses are going to be fine.
Speaker 3: I think it could be a high scoring, shootout potential game.
Speaker 1: All right, Green Bay and Atlanta the next one on
Speaker 1: the docket here. We still have some time to get
Speaker 1: some clarity about what's going on with Aaron Jones that injury.
Speaker 1: As we mentioned before, so far, it looks like you're
Speaker 1: getting this number somewhere between one one and a half. Obviously,
Speaker 1: on the Green Bay side of things, Jordan Love did
Speaker 1: look good in that game. The total for this number
Speaker 1: right now is around forty and a half of some
Speaker 1: other spots here on bettingpros dot com. Sam your thoughts here,
Speaker 1: do you see any early value on this game here?
Speaker 1: Atlanta and Green Bay both coming off wins yesterday.
Speaker 3: I'm going to try to take my green Bay bias
Speaker 3: out of this and look at the fact that Atlanta's
Speaker 3: defenses is much better than Chicago's, and so I think
Speaker 3: that's what will keep this game closer. I do think
Speaker 3: that the under could probably be in play here, even
Speaker 3: though it is pretty low. I think it's sitting right
Speaker 3: around forty points right now, and it could just be
Speaker 3: one of those grinded out games with two offenses that
Speaker 3: have inexperienced quarterbacks against defenses that played pretty well.
Speaker 4: In Week one.
Speaker 3: The Packers defense played better than I think a lot
Speaker 3: of people expected, being able to hold that Bears offense
Speaker 3: to just twenty points.
Speaker 4: Get the pick six as.
Speaker 3: Well, so I slightly lean the Packers on the side
Speaker 3: just knowing that I expect Aaron Jones to be able
Speaker 3: to play. I think they didn't rush him back in
Speaker 3: the game Sunday because they had the game in hand
Speaker 3: at that point, So I think hopefully having Christian Watson
Speaker 3: back this week as well would be huge for that
Speaker 3: offense too.
Speaker 1: All right, so as the Packers may or may not
Speaker 1: be healthy this week, Pat, you've seen any early value
Speaker 1: on this line here in this game in Atlanta?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, just before we started recording the show, the
Speaker 2: Packers were minus one on DraftKings, and I think that
Speaker 2: there would only be one way this line would move
Speaker 2: if Aaron Jones were to be ruled out and like
Speaker 2: it would go to the Falcons. I think they would
Speaker 2: be even money at worst, maybe favored if that happened.
Speaker 2: Sam mentioned how well the Packers' defense played, and we're
Speaker 2: both Packers fans, Yes, they did play really well against
Speaker 2: the Bears. The trouble is, the Packers are better against
Speaker 2: the pass than the run defense, and we know the
Speaker 2: Falcons are going to run the ball well, and the
Speaker 2: Packers have not had a good run defense for years now,
Speaker 2: so that's kind of concerning to me. The effectiveness of
Speaker 2: their offensive balance if they don't have Aaron Jones is
Speaker 2: concerning to me because, as we were talking about before
Speaker 2: the show, I don't think AJ Dillon is very good. So,
Speaker 2: like I'm inclined to take the Falcons in the money
Speaker 2: line here and kind of staying away from the total,
Speaker 2: Like I just I would want to bet the over,
Speaker 2: but I'm not betting the over on Falcons games with
Speaker 2: Arthur Smith there.
Speaker 5: They just run the ball too much.
Speaker 2: If anything, I would take the over, but I don't
Speaker 2: think I'm going to play it here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the under sounds interesting, especially with that pace of
Speaker 1: play and how run heavy they were, and you have
Speaker 1: to imagine that would carry over again this week at
Speaker 1: home too with Algier and Jean Robinson. The Bears are
Speaker 1: going to travel to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the
Speaker 1: Bucks go home conquering heroes of Minnesota minus two and
Speaker 1: a half. Here on the Bucks side, they are favorites.
Speaker 1: Forty three and a half is basically that number you're
Speaker 1: getting on this pat. I'm gonna ask you this straight up.
Speaker 1: Do you think the wrong team is just favored in
Speaker 1: this game?
Speaker 5: It seems that way, Joe.
Speaker 2: And normally one of my favorite bets is the team
Speaker 2: coming off a bitter defeat against the team that's fat
Speaker 2: and happy coming off a satisfying victory. But I was
Speaker 2: so thoroughly unimpressed with the Bears passing game and the
Speaker 2: design of it yesterday. Like, screen passes are great to
Speaker 2: dial up, but when you're throwing eighty percent of you know,
Speaker 2: eighty percent of your playbook is screen passes, they're not
Speaker 2: gonna work as well. And like they were just there
Speaker 2: was so little, such a one dimensional Bears passing game,
Speaker 2: So I was kind of nervous about that, and I'm
Speaker 2: not really ready to touch this one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can understand that this one has a lot
Speaker 1: of curiosity to it, you know, the Bears coming off
Speaker 1: that that tough loss year, the Buccaneers coming off a huge,
Speaker 1: unexpected win. To me, this is one of those dangerous
Speaker 1: trap games where people just automatically will start buying it
Speaker 1: on the Tampa Bay Bucaneers. And it feels the lines
Speaker 1: telling us that, but Sam, should we be listening?
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Chicago is the pick here. There
Speaker 3: looks like they're right around minus two and a half,
Speaker 3: heavily favored towards that and then minus three at some books,
Speaker 3: if you can get excuse me, that's for Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3: If Chicago is plus three, I think I'd take that
Speaker 3: they have, in my opinion, the better quarterback than Tampa Bay.
Speaker 3: They on the flip side of the Minnesota turnovers, were
Speaker 3: the beneficiary of those turnovers from Minnesota. So I think
Speaker 3: this is a bit of an overreaction to a one
Speaker 3: game sample. I think on the total the Bucks have
Speaker 3: probably more talented players, but I think as a team,
Speaker 3: the Bears are the better rated team right now.
Speaker 1: Speaking of overreactions, the Detroit Lyons went in on Thursday
Speaker 1: night kicked off the season with a huge upset win
Speaker 1: over the Kansasley Chiefs and defending champions five and a
Speaker 1: half points. They are favored now over the Seattle Seahawks,
Speaker 1: who lost at home to the Los Angeles Rams, and
Speaker 1: a lot of people did not think that was gonna
Speaker 1: help Pens. So a lot of again odd circumstances here
Speaker 1: in some of these Week two games, this being one
Speaker 1: of them. So the Lions five and a half point favorites.
Speaker 1: Fifteen and a half is the number right now when
Speaker 1: you're looking at this here Sam, do you see any
Speaker 1: early value here potentially? And do you think maybe the
Speaker 1: Lions aren't as good as we saw and maybe the
Speaker 1: Seahawks are better than we saw week one?
Speaker 3: This is what I'm not quite sure about right now.
Speaker 3: Seattle lost both of their tackles during the game on Sunday.
Speaker 3: That said, I don't think Detroit's offense was at its
Speaker 3: peak performance and think they could really push it against
Speaker 3: Seattle this week like we saw Los Angeles do yesterday.
Speaker 3: So I think if I had to choose one, it
Speaker 3: would be Detroit mine with the points. But it's it's
Speaker 3: close right now, and I think I would stay away
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, Pat, are you staying away right now from this
Speaker 1: line of waiting to see where things go?
Speaker 2: I am, Joe, I'm staying away. It's another case of
Speaker 2: a team coming off a bitter loss versus a team
Speaker 2: fat and happy after a big win.
Speaker 1: But that happened with extra time off too.
Speaker 2: That's the saying that, right The Lions have some extra
Speaker 2: prep time. As Sam mentioned, Seattle's got some key infrastructure
Speaker 2: type injuries, so I'm probably going to avoid this one.
Speaker 2: Like it's a game where I want to bet Seattle,
Speaker 2: but I just don't have the confidence to do it now.
Speaker 1: Pat, barring catastrophic injuries, I'm not going to take too
Speaker 1: much out of tonight's game, the Monday night game that
Speaker 1: we have ahead of us here when it comes to
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. So far as the Buffalo Bills are
Speaker 1: nine and a half point favorites at home against the Raiders,
Speaker 1: so as long as Josh Allen and the Bills are
Speaker 1: intact when they come home, I don't really care what
Speaker 1: happens to this game. I know there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: lot of emotion running through that building. It was nine
Speaker 1: to eleven, it was New York, it was the first
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers debut for the New York Jets, is their
Speaker 1: new quarterback. So so much happening in that game. So
Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna take too much out of it.
Speaker 1: That being said, the Raiders also pulled out a sneaky victory.
Speaker 1: This feels like a smash game here. The nine and
Speaker 1: a half. The total in this game is forty eight.
Speaker 1: But Pat, do you think this early in the season
Speaker 1: that a margin this big is actually too much to
Speaker 1: give anybody?
Speaker 2: I think it is, especially if the Bills have a
Speaker 2: big week one victory over a division rival. I could
Speaker 2: see them having a letdown game in Week two at
Speaker 2: home against the Raiders, a game they probably think they
Speaker 2: can just show up for and win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, Sam, when you're
Speaker 1: looking at this too. Again, the nine and a half
Speaker 1: is a big number here. Do you think you wait
Speaker 1: on this one and see if the Bills put a
Speaker 1: hurt and on the Jets and it gets even bigger,
Speaker 1: and then maybe take the Raiders side to cover.
Speaker 3: I don't know that there is a game outcome tonight
Speaker 3: that will drastically change things from the Bill's perspective, barring
Speaker 3: a massive injury, like you said, whether it's to God forbid,
Speaker 3: Josh Allen or someone else on the offense. But it's
Speaker 3: it is such a big line to lay this early
Speaker 3: in the season, where again we saw some crazy things
Speaker 3: happen in Week one. Crazy things are going to happen
Speaker 3: again in week two, and so I don't want either
Speaker 3: side of this. I think the over in this game
Speaker 3: is a little bit more interesting because I think Buffalo
Speaker 3: has the firepower. Las Vegas again played decently on offense
Speaker 3: last last night, and I don't think Buffalo's defense is
Speaker 3: as strong as people expect them to be, so I
Speaker 3: would lean the over and staying away from sides right.
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Speaker 1: all good things, not so good things here for the Chargers.
Speaker 1: A tough loss. There a PI that probably a lot
Speaker 1: of people could do without. There was like seven thousand
Speaker 1: flags thrown on that play. Was one of the most
Speaker 1: amazing things. My daughter, who was a young football player herself,
Speaker 1: laughed out loud. She said, did they have any more
Speaker 1: flags to throw? When she watched that happen. It was
Speaker 1: the funniest thing, And I said, no, I don't think
Speaker 1: they do, Dear, I don't think they do. But regardless,
Speaker 1: the Chargers will try to get their season back together.
Speaker 1: They are again three point underdogs going into Tennessee, Tennessee's
Speaker 1: favorite and excuse me, they are three point favorites. Pardon me,
Speaker 1: going on the road to Tennessee. Forty five and a
Speaker 1: half is the number for this one, Sam, when you're
Speaker 1: looking at this one here, I think on paper, we
Speaker 1: all agree the Chargers offense is much more interesting and
Speaker 1: much more explosive. Is it just as simple as that?
Speaker 1: Or you know, do we see a better version of
Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill because yesterday was not good, did not complete
Speaker 1: a lot of his passes. DeAndre Hopkins and him didn't
Speaker 1: seem to get on the same page either. So do
Speaker 1: you think the Chargers go in here and smash and
Speaker 1: take out their aggression from that Miami game? Or do
Speaker 1: they run into a team at home and the Titans
Speaker 1: that is going to be prepared and kind of bring
Speaker 1: them down to their level And that's what Mike Rabel
Speaker 1: does best.
Speaker 3: I think that the Chargers go in and lay it
Speaker 3: on them. I think the Titans showed this offseason drafting well,
Speaker 3: levis what they sort of think of Ryan Tannehill long term.
Speaker 3: Obviously this is a one game sample from from this year,
Speaker 3: but he did not look great at all. And the
Speaker 3: Chargers defense is nothing to write home about. They got
Speaker 3: blasted by Tua and the Dolphins yesterday. But I just
Speaker 3: think the Chargers are going to be able to put
Speaker 3: up twenty four plus points against Tennessee. You know, Derek
Speaker 3: Carr didn't play great and the Saints were able to
Speaker 3: move the ball pretty effectively against Tennessee's defense. So I'm
Speaker 3: laying the Chargers with the points here.
Speaker 1: Pat, this is one again. On paper, it looks pretty obvious.
Speaker 1: I know they're you know, the hole underdog is something
Speaker 1: we always love to go for. But did you see
Speaker 1: anything in that Titans game yesterday that gave you confidence
Speaker 1: that they can pull off an upset here against the
Speaker 1: Chargers at home?
Speaker 5: Oh? Boy, Joe, I sure didn't.
Speaker 2: Tannehill looked every bit as bad as the stat line
Speaker 2: would suggest.
Speaker 5: The Titans offensive line.
Speaker 2: A lot of people thought it would be the worst
Speaker 2: in the league, and I see no reason to dispute
Speaker 2: that assessment after what we saw in Week one, and
Speaker 2: it just seems like the Chargers would have superior firepower.
Speaker 5: But that said, I.
Speaker 2: Cannot bring myself to bet against Mike Vrabel at home,
Speaker 2: a Mike Rabel coach team at home, Like I just
Speaker 2: I can't do it. I do think there's a chance
Speaker 2: that Vrabel can turn this into a mud wrestling match
Speaker 2: and you bring the Chargers down to the Titans level.
Speaker 2: So I'm probably gonna avoid this one. It just gives
Speaker 2: me a queasy feeling betting on the Chargers as a
Speaker 2: road dug here. And we know the Chargers tortured history,
Speaker 2: right somehow this is going to be a close game
Speaker 2: and they're gonna find a way.
Speaker 1: To look like this, And that's what I'm always so
Speaker 1: scaped to go with the Chargers when they're obvious favorites
Speaker 1: or just it just never seems to work out when
Speaker 1: it's too good to be true for them. And speaking
Speaker 1: of stay in the mud, we might as well just
Speaker 1: you know, hang out there and talk about the Texans
Speaker 1: taking on the Cults here. Texans are at home again,
Speaker 1: this number kind of fluctuating. It seems like the Texans
Speaker 1: are one point in some spots. Again, this line is
Speaker 1: one that's probably going to be volatile here. Anthony Richardson
Speaker 1: did get banged up here at the end of that game,
Speaker 1: so a little bit more clarity on that injury will
Speaker 1: make everybody feel warm and fuzzy. You saw Richardson run
Speaker 1: a lot. I'd like to see him slide a little
Speaker 1: bit more. That's one one caveat there. It's really hard
Speaker 1: to take too much out of that CJ. Stroud performance
Speaker 1: to you on the road in Baltimore, really hostile environment,
Speaker 1: tough place to play, no matter for anybody, let alone
Speaker 1: a rookie. So pat the numbers forty and a half here,
Speaker 1: do you think is stick with this year and maybe
Speaker 1: played the under on the forty and a half with
Speaker 1: these two offenses that you know, seem like they're trying
Speaker 1: to figure things out because some sloppy play really led
Speaker 1: to the Colts being in that game that maybe they
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been quite so close in.
Speaker 5: Oh, look at this show.
Speaker 2: We're early in the season and we're on the same
Speaker 2: page already. We didn't even talk about this pre show
Speaker 2: and you mentioned it. The only thing I would touch
Speaker 2: in this game would be beyonder and especially with the
Speaker 2: Houston offensive line so banged up. I think they were
Speaker 2: down three starters yesterday and it kind of showed on
Speaker 2: offense against the Ravens. Like Stroud played better than I
Speaker 2: thought he would considering the state of his offensive line.
Speaker 2: But yeah, Richardson has banged up like this is just
Speaker 2: not going to be a pretty game. Offensively, I don't
Speaker 2: really want to watch this game, let alone bet aside,
Speaker 2: so I might just put the bet on the on
Speaker 2: the under, not pay any attention, and you know, see
Speaker 2: if I made any money come three o'clock Central time
Speaker 2: on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Sam. Typically this you know, part in the season two
Speaker 1: where teams are still ramping up, the unders tend to
Speaker 1: come in a little bit more historically speaking, do you
Speaker 1: think this is one of those instances? With this game here?
Speaker 4: It is?
Speaker 3: And I think Houston. Houston's defense is probably the best
Speaker 3: unit of all of them on that are going to
Speaker 3: be on the field on Sunday. They held the Ravens
Speaker 3: offense to a negative expected points added per drop back
Speaker 3: on Sunday as success rate of only thirty nine percent.
Speaker 3: They pressured Lamar Jackson on thirty nine percent of his
Speaker 3: drop backs and sacked him on fifteen percent.
Speaker 4: So I think with the Colts.
Speaker 3: Offensive line in, you know, as good as Anthony Richardson
Speaker 3: is at avoiding sacks. I mean you could have said
Speaker 3: the same thing about Lamar Jackson and they were able
Speaker 3: to get to him. So I do think with this
Speaker 3: low of a total. Obviously, the cult side of things
Speaker 3: comes into play as a potential teaser leg if you
Speaker 3: want to do that pushing them out to seven and
Speaker 3: a half, if they're plus one and a half on
Speaker 3: your book.
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens and Lamar Jackson are now going to travel
Speaker 1: after a big win against Houston last week, They're going
Speaker 1: to travel Cincinnati, who, let's be honest, did not look good.
Speaker 1: And this is a fascinating situation here. So the Bengals
Speaker 1: get the three right now. Everyone's just kind of sitting
Speaker 1: and waiting here. And for those of you who don't remember,
Speaker 1: the Bengals came out of the gates slow last year
Speaker 1: too ohing two. Joe Burrow never seems to have a
Speaker 1: normal offseason no matter what happens. So I, for one, Sam,
Speaker 1: I'm just not going to take too much out of this.
Speaker 1: The Bengals are favorites. I think they should be favorites.
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals are going to win this football game.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day. The number for this
Speaker 1: game is forty five and a half. I don't see
Speaker 1: any early value on this. I was hoping that we
Speaker 1: would see potentially maybe over the week, that people would
Speaker 1: start to maybe bet the Ravens and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden this number would move a little bit, and maybe
Speaker 1: it will. Do you think this game does move as
Speaker 1: people have more time to sit with how bad Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow and the Bengals were, or do you think they're
Speaker 1: just going to believe and how good Joe Burrow and
Speaker 1: the Bengals have been and this number is going to hold.
Speaker 4: I think it stays about the same.
Speaker 3: I mean, the one big question on the Ravens side
Speaker 3: is Mark Andrew's health is decent. As the safe Flowers
Speaker 3: and Rashad Bateman played in the game in Houston, I
Speaker 3: just mentioned how poor they were on a per drop
Speaker 3: back basis. I mean, the Bengals are favored by three
Speaker 3: at home, depending on how much you account towards home
Speaker 3: field advantage. That makes this almost close to a pick
Speaker 3: on a neutral field. And that's sort of where it
Speaker 3: feels like these teams are just you know, the offense
Speaker 3: didn't look great, even though it's you know, this new
Speaker 3: explosive offense from Todd Monkin. The Bengals looked absolutely atrocious.
Speaker 3: But on the whole, I think we expect the Bengals
Speaker 3: to come back, So I honestly think this line is
Speaker 3: right about perfect where it is right now, both the
Speaker 3: total and the side, So I'm not touching it right now.
Speaker 3: I'm waiting to see what happens with Mark Andrews and
Speaker 3: then potentially playing the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the interesting play is if Andrews' health gets better,
Speaker 1: maybe you do go to the opposite side and maybe it's
Speaker 1: another zero to two stard for the Bengals. Pat, But
Speaker 1: I'm kind of where Sam is, which is this just
Speaker 1: feels right. I still believe in the Cincinnati Bengals. One
Speaker 1: bad week is not going to change after me, especially
Speaker 1: with the bad weather, especially with the ferocious pass rush
Speaker 1: with Miles Garrett that they have and a guy who
Speaker 1: was really, you know, just trying to get back in
Speaker 1: action and you could tell things were just off. They
Speaker 1: were out of sync. And I can only imagine a
Speaker 1: full healthy week of practice hopefully things get better for
Speaker 1: the Bengals. But how do you see this one? Pat?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we know that Week one is often sort
Speaker 2: of an extension of the preseason with how little the
Speaker 2: starters play in the new three week NFL preseason, But man,
Speaker 2: I just cannot bet the Bengals after what I saw yesterday,
Speaker 2: and I watched a lot of that game, even though
Speaker 2: the Bengals offense was making my eyeballs bleed, Like I
Speaker 2: just subjected myself to that torture and the six first downs,
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. I just have a hard time believing
Speaker 2: they can suddenly stomp the gas pedal and kick it
Speaker 2: in against a good Ravens defense. And like, I'd be
Speaker 2: all the more eager to take this game if I thought,
Speaker 2: if I was totally confident Lamar Jackson could take advantage
Speaker 2: of the Bengals safeties. You know, they no longer have
Speaker 2: Jesse Bates back. There was intercepting passes for the Falcons yesterday.
Speaker 2: They've no longer got Von Bell back there. So man,
Speaker 2: as much as the Ravens passing game looked out of
Speaker 2: sank everyone except say Flowers at least yesterday. Like, I
Speaker 2: want to play the raven this game because I just
Speaker 2: I have a hard time like the Ravens do not
Speaker 2: play many clunkers. It's pretty rare for the Ravens to
Speaker 2: go out there and lay an egg. They're usually gonna
Speaker 2: give you their best shot under John Harbaugh. And I
Speaker 2: just don't know if the Bengals can take a good
Speaker 2: punch with the way they looked in Week one.
Speaker 1: Interesting. You know, all off season, Pat, I talked about it.
Speaker 1: I was like losing Von Bell and Jesse Bates, I
Speaker 1: think is a little Everyone kept telling me that's okay,
Speaker 1: We're getting younger and more athletic, and maybe that's true,
Speaker 1: but they're not getting more experienced. And I think that's
Speaker 1: something you saw in this first week here that made
Speaker 1: a difference in that game. The Chiefs have had a
Speaker 1: long time to think long and hard about what went
Speaker 1: wrong for them on opening night. They are still three
Speaker 1: point favorites going on the road for the Jacksonville Jaguars.
Speaker 1: The number for this one is fifty one and a half. Now, look,
Speaker 1: Kevin Ridley look good, Say Jones look good. Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: played well. So you know, I think Jacksonville, you know,
Speaker 1: went in their tough Indivision game on the road. They
Speaker 1: came out with the w. That's all the matter is
Speaker 1: now they go home. But Pat, let's be honest. If
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs had stopped the mud hole like
Speaker 1: they should have in the Detroit Lions and Canarius Tony
Speaker 1: caught anything and they won by ten points, this would
Speaker 1: not be three. Therefore, I'm on Kansas City and I'm
Speaker 1: Kansas City right now because I think as more people
Speaker 1: have time to think about this one, I think more
Speaker 1: people are gonna start to gravitate towards that idea.
Speaker 2: What do you think, Yeah, we've got Andy Reid with
Speaker 2: extra prep time, the Chiefs in a rare hole since
Speaker 2: they haven't lost a Week one game since I believe
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen.
Speaker 5: So maybe a little more.
Speaker 2: Urgency for the Chiefs after, you know, in eight years
Speaker 2: of winning Week one and Joe, we know which way
Speaker 2: the line is going to move if we get any
Speaker 2: positive news on the Travis Kelce injury front or the
Speaker 2: Chris Jones contract front.
Speaker 5: So like suddenly you're not.
Speaker 1: Honestly pat They got to the quarterback, they put pressure
Speaker 1: on Jared Goff, like you know, Nick Bolton was over there,
Speaker 1: going over the top in the middle there like that.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even a matter of like putting pressure on
Speaker 1: and Chris Jones's presence, although important on the field, it's
Speaker 1: not why they lost that game. They lost that game
Speaker 1: because just the ineptitude of the wide receiver record. Again
Speaker 1: on the same page here were Patrick Maholmes. But I
Speaker 1: don't think I'm going to bet on that happening two
Speaker 1: weeks in a row.
Speaker 5: Are you agreed? Agreed, and so get it now.
Speaker 2: But we know that the news on those guys would
Speaker 2: change the line, Joe, and right now you're getting them
Speaker 2: at less than you know, less than a field goal
Speaker 2: for sure, because if you don't grab the Chiefs, and
Speaker 2: Chiefs now at minus two and a half on DraftKings
Speaker 2: as of this morning, I think it could go to
Speaker 2: four four and a half if we know they have
Speaker 2: Kelsey and Jones.
Speaker 1: Sam, do you see things going in that same direction
Speaker 1: if you start to get better buzz as the week
Speaker 1: goes on that this number is going to grow here,
Speaker 1: especially if Kelsey's back for this one.
Speaker 4: I do think so.
Speaker 3: I was pretty surprised last Thursday how much the line
Speaker 3: had moved after the Kelsey news and then confirmation that
Speaker 3: Chris Jones wasn't going to play. I think individually neither
Speaker 3: of them are worth the amount of points that the
Speaker 3: line moved, but together they are the second and third
Speaker 3: best players on the Kansas City Chiefs, so to get
Speaker 3: potentially both of them back would be huge. I do
Speaker 3: think that Chris Jones might have the bigger impact on
Speaker 3: this game if he is able to play. And I
Speaker 3: say that because the Jaguars offensive line did not look great.
Speaker 3: I think one of their starters went down part way
Speaker 3: through the game. I can't recall if he came back,
Speaker 3: but yes, yes, that's what I was thinking of. So
Speaker 3: if Chris Jones was back, I mean again, we saw
Speaker 3: that Kansas City was able to get some pressure on
Speaker 3: Jared Goff and Detroit has one of the best offensive
Speaker 3: lines in the league. If if they're at full strength
Speaker 3: against this Jaguars team, I think that Kansas City could
Speaker 3: just blow them away. I echo all of the sentiment
Speaker 3: you guys made about the drops and those being super
Speaker 3: fluky and not likely going to happen two weeks in
Speaker 3: a row.
Speaker 1: The Rams, who historically have given the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: fits the last few years, they are seven point underdogs
Speaker 1: at home against the forty nine ers who went out
Speaker 1: there to non conference game on the road and beat
Speaker 1: the crap out of the Pittsburgh Yards. Let's be honest,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what they did. This one's fascinating to me. Sam.
Speaker 1: The numbers forty two and a half, the line of
Speaker 1: seven Pukinakua played very well. The Rams are coming off
Speaker 1: a huge road victory in their division. I love the
Speaker 1: Rams in this game, Am I wrong?
Speaker 4: I think so?
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, the lines actually moved another point. The
Speaker 3: forty nine Ers are now favored by eight points, which
Speaker 3: I think is more about confidence in the forty nine
Speaker 3: Ers as a team than you know, disbarring what happened
Speaker 3: with the Rams in their game. I mean, the defense
Speaker 3: was dominant, the offense was clicking on all cylinders, brock
Speaker 3: Perty was making some plays, and so I think that
Speaker 3: again laying the points, Laying eight points is going to
Speaker 3: be is a lot in a division game. I think
Speaker 3: this is another opportunity to tease the forty nine Ers
Speaker 3: down to two points, because again I say, there's I
Speaker 3: don't see a situation in which the the Rams come
Speaker 3: away with a win here. Obviously.
Speaker 4: I think I saw said the same thing last week.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you might have said the same
Speaker 1: thing last eight times they've met, though, because the forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers always look like the better team on paper,
Speaker 1: and the forty nine Ers again struggle against the Rams,
Speaker 1: that fits that. That's I think what's so important. This
Speaker 1: is one of those games I think that's really stands
Speaker 1: out to me because Matthew Stafford is not Kenny Pickett,
Speaker 1: so they're gonna meet another quarterback here. It's very different.
Speaker 1: So Fits, when you're looking at the do you do
Speaker 1: you think that maybe again, this is one of those
Speaker 1: traps where we feel so good about the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: will look so good week one, but we forget, Hey,
Speaker 1: this is a whole other set of circumstances and this
Speaker 1: is a team in the Rams Fits that has really
Speaker 1: given them problems over the last few seasons.
Speaker 5: Well, Joe, I went back and looked at that.
Speaker 2: I wonder if it was maybe like earlier in the
Speaker 2: Sean McVay era, that the Rams were sort of had
Speaker 2: the Niners number, because it looks like the Niners of
Speaker 2: one eight of the last nine in this series.
Speaker 5: And like some of those games were close.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the ATS record would be for
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, but yeah, I mean, like I
Speaker 2: was surprised by how well the Rams defense played against Seattle,
Speaker 2: or maybe the Seahawks offense was just that bad, and
Speaker 2: I have a hard time seeing the Rams be able
Speaker 2: to stop this forty nine Ers offense, which looked so
Speaker 2: machine like against a very good Pittsburgh defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah in week.
Speaker 2: One, so yeah, I mean like hearing that this has
Speaker 2: gone from seven to eight makes me a little nervous.
Speaker 2: Like I love getting it at an even seven points,
Speaker 2: but push it past the touchdown, I get a little
Speaker 2: more nervous. As of now, I'm just going to lay
Speaker 2: off this game.
Speaker 1: I think, give me the rams. I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: feeling crazy. I don't know why I'm so anti forty
Speaker 1: nine er this year. I don't know. Bruckburdy look great,
Speaker 1: Everything looked great. I'm just not there yet. I need
Speaker 1: to see it again New York. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I need to see them again. They are five point under,
Speaker 1: excuse me, five point favorites going on the road to Arizona.
Speaker 1: That feels right. Fits again, I don't know. This is
Speaker 1: the game you want to get involved in right here.
Speaker 1: Thirty eight and a half is the number of most
Speaker 1: spots here. Some I'm thirty eight as well. The Giants
Speaker 1: looked awful. They got nothing done. This is going to
Speaker 1: be a rough week for them. Fits. Do you think
Speaker 1: they take it out on the Cardinals here?
Speaker 5: Betters were so mortified by that performance.
Speaker 1: Joe.
Speaker 2: It's already down to four and a half I guess
Speaker 2: people are betting the Cardinals on this, but man, I
Speaker 2: feel like the Giants have to bounce back.
Speaker 5: Don't they like that?
Speaker 2: That Actually their first drive of the game, they were
Speaker 2: going right downfield. Then what Daniel Jones like there was
Speaker 2: a fumbled snap or something. They got thrown back, knock
Speaker 2: back to like outside the twenty five yard line, get
Speaker 2: the field goal blocked and run in for a touchdown,
Speaker 2: and everything just snowballed from there. So, man, I feel
Speaker 2: like they're gonna bounce back. I still have a lot
Speaker 2: of faith in Brian Dable as a head coach. I
Speaker 2: think he's gonna circle the wagons this week and you know,
Speaker 2: beat a team that we really don't know if they
Speaker 2: actually want to win games this year. With the Cardinals,
Speaker 2: I mean they are. They are all in, I think
Speaker 2: in the Caleb Williams Derby. So you know, I'm going
Speaker 2: to keep targeting the Cardinals to bet against as long
Speaker 2: as the line stay reasonable enough and we don't get
Speaker 2: any of the college football realm of lines where we're
Speaker 2: seeing you know, twenty point spreads every week.
Speaker 1: Sam, I know it was as bad as it could
Speaker 1: possibly get Sunday Night, but the Arizona Cardinals are also
Speaker 1: theoretically as bad as a guest, do you think the
Speaker 1: five is actually with the four and a half now?
Speaker 1: Is still too much credit from what you didn't see
Speaker 1: out of the Giants yesterday?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think this is a good line.
Speaker 3: I made it about four points before the end of
Speaker 3: the Sunday night football game. I think five is probably
Speaker 3: a good line too. And what take the Giants here?
Speaker 3: I mean they were playing what many pegged as the
Speaker 3: best defense in the league in Dallas coming into the season,
Speaker 3: so their struggles on offense are not as surprising as
Speaker 3: I think many people thought it was. Now granted, their
Speaker 3: entire offenses basically Darren Waller and Saquon Barkley, but I
Speaker 3: think they'll have so much more success against Arizona's defense
Speaker 3: than Dallas's defense. I think Daniel Jones is a much
Speaker 3: better quarterback at least right now than Sam Howell is,
Speaker 3: and so I'd be laying the points with the Giants here.
Speaker 3: I think this is a by low opportunity on the
Speaker 3: Giants and a potential for them to bounce back in
Speaker 3: a big way.
Speaker 1: We'll see if the line changes after Monday Night Football
Speaker 1: but Dallas is three point favorites at home against the Jets,
Speaker 1: and AT's go to the Jets defense is with that
Speaker 1: offensive line struggling a little bit in preseason, Sam, if
Speaker 1: you're watching Micah Parsons get to the quarterback on Sunday
Speaker 1: Night and watching some of the problems that they were
Speaker 1: giving Daniel Jones, I am. I'm loving the Cowboys out
Speaker 1: of this game at the three, at the minus one
Speaker 1: ten right now forty five and a half depending on
Speaker 1: the sportsbook. That's where the number is in terms of
Speaker 1: the total. But I don't want to take too much
Speaker 1: out of Week one and now how good teams look,
Speaker 1: how good you bad teams can also look. But the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys defense looks like it's for real, and they
Speaker 1: were for real last year too, one of the better
Speaker 1: fantasy defenses around. Do you think that this one should
Speaker 1: be this close?
Speaker 4: I do think so.
Speaker 3: I you know, I mentioned earlier that the game tonight
Speaker 3: won't have much impact on Buffalo's outlook rest of season,
Speaker 3: but I think it could change a lot about New
Speaker 3: York's outlook rest of season, because again, we don't know
Speaker 3: what this offense is going to look like with Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3: I you know, the defense is supposed to be great,
Speaker 3: but can they contain Josh Allen like they had in
Speaker 3: the past. I think where I would attack this game
Speaker 3: is the under Aaron Rodgers is notoriously a slow guy.
Speaker 3: He drains the play clock down to the last second.
Speaker 3: Both of these defenses are again incredible. New York has
Speaker 3: some issues on the offensive line. Dallas I think still
Speaker 3: wants to run the ball a bit more when they can,
Speaker 3: and so I would take under forty six if you
Speaker 3: can get.
Speaker 1: That, all right, Pat, how do you feel about this one?
Speaker 1: I'm very much on the Cowboys side of this game
Speaker 1: no matter what happens good or bad for the Jets tonight.
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on Jets and Cowboys? Do you see any
Speaker 1: early value?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I kind of feel the same way Sam does about
Speaker 2: this game, like I don't want to touch either side.
Speaker 5: Jets Yets.
Speaker 2: I agree with your takes on the Cowboys, Joe. You know,
Speaker 2: I was kind of in on the Cowboys preseason and
Speaker 2: have some futures on them to win the NFC and
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: But I mean I.
Speaker 2: Do think the Jets have If you're going to keep
Speaker 2: giving me Jets totals in the mid forties. As we
Speaker 2: get in Week one with Bill's Jets, and as we
Speaker 2: get in Week two with Cowboys Jets, I'm going to
Speaker 2: keep pounding the under because I think the Jets might
Speaker 2: have the best defense in the league, or at least
Speaker 2: certainly right up there with Dallas, San Francisco, Philadelphia. And
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, Joe, I mean, the Jets offensive line
Speaker 2: is a row of New York subway turnstiles, So I mean,
Speaker 2: like that's gonna be a This is an under team
Speaker 2: absolutely with Micah Parsons. I mean, how are they gonna
Speaker 2: block Micah Parsons.
Speaker 1: They're not and this and that's gonna cause the turnovers,
Speaker 1: and that's gonna cost some problems. And that's why I'm
Speaker 1: more on the Dallas side of this game than the total,
Speaker 1: because I fear some of those turnovers, if they turn
Speaker 1: into points, that's gonna be a problem for that total number.
Speaker 1: That could be because look look what happened on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Think it would be a very big repeat of that.
Speaker 1: The Broncos hosting the Commanders. The Broncos are three and
Speaker 1: a half point home favorites. Their home debut did not
Speaker 1: go well yesterday, FITZI, the number is forty for this one.
Speaker 1: I have no idea yet of who these teams really are.
Speaker 1: I'm running from this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of those teams. This is one of those
Speaker 2: lines show. I just looked at it and threw my
Speaker 2: hands up in the air, like.
Speaker 1: No, okay, you can have it, Sam, you want anything
Speaker 1: on this one, or you want to hard pass this one.
Speaker 3: I'd take Washington and the points here.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 3: Denver's offense still looks out of sorts. I think Washington's
Speaker 3: defense is incredible. That defensive line you know, was wrecking
Speaker 3: Arizona's offensive line. I don't think Denver's offensive line is
Speaker 3: that great either. Denver's offense again, it just looks out
Speaker 3: of sorts. I think they still have a ways to
Speaker 3: go to get to where they want to be. Such
Speaker 3: a low total two, I think they keep this game
Speaker 3: close and have the potential to even win outright against Denver.
Speaker 1: All Right, The New England Patriots are at home again
Speaker 1: two weeks in a row. They are again home underdogs.
Speaker 1: Plus two is the number against the Miami Dolphins, who
Speaker 1: put on a show there with Tyreek Hill and Tuatungua
Speaker 1: Biloa in Los Angeles if you like the patch for
Speaker 1: the upset plus one fourteen on the money line, but
Speaker 1: forty five and a half is the number for this one, Sam,
Speaker 1: do you see any early value here?
Speaker 3: I gotta go with Miami. I mean, their offense just
Speaker 3: looked so good. New England plays a decent amount of
Speaker 3: man coverage and that I don't know that there's anyone
Speaker 3: that can can cover this Tyreek and Watto combination. You know,
Speaker 3: it's New England's defense is great, and they did do
Speaker 3: a lot to stifle Philadelphia's offense. But again, we saw
Speaker 3: on display yesterday what Miami's offense can do, how.
Speaker 4: Explosive they are.
Speaker 3: Tool was making some great throws, and I do think
Speaker 3: Miami's defense does have a little bit of work to do.
Speaker 3: They didn't play great against the Chargers, but this New
Speaker 3: England offense is not nearly as daunting as the Chargers
Speaker 3: offense is. So I'll take the minus two with Miami here.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, they did hold the Eagles to one
Speaker 1: offensive touchdown. Does that matter to you at all?
Speaker 5: Here?
Speaker 1: Pat Do you think Miami comes out here a little
Speaker 1: flat after a huge output last week?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Joe, I mean you're a Patriots fan. But I can
Speaker 2: assure you I'm not just pandering to you when I
Speaker 2: say that I like the Patriots and have already bet
Speaker 2: the Patriots.
Speaker 5: In this game.
Speaker 2: I just it feels like the Dolphins are getting a
Speaker 2: little bit too much credit with this line for that,
Speaker 2: you know, undisputedly impressive victory against the Chargers, and it
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like the Pats are getting quite enough credit
Speaker 2: for putting up a really good fight. As I said,
Speaker 2: they outgained the Eagles by one hundred and thirty one
Speaker 2: yards in that game in Week one. Now Miami has
Speaker 2: to go from playing on the West coast to playing
Speaker 2: in the Northeast. It's the NFL's hurricane season avoidance schedule,
Speaker 2: and that's a pretty tough two week opening road stretch.
Speaker 2: So I kind of like the Patriots here for a
Speaker 2: second straight week at home, regrouping after the tough loss
Speaker 2: to the Philadelphia Eagles in Week one.
Speaker 1: All right, two more Prime times talk about here, the
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints and the Carolina Panthers. The Panthers are
Speaker 1: at home. They are two and a half point underdogs
Speaker 1: at home to the Saints. Forty and a half is
Speaker 1: the number here. Saints defense look pretty good. This line
Speaker 1: feels about right to me. I don't see any value, Papa,
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 5: Nope, no value.
Speaker 2: You know, I just don't quite believe in the Saints
Speaker 2: enough to bet them as a three point road dog
Speaker 2: or roads.
Speaker 1: Do you agree here? What you're just kind of waiting
Speaker 1: and seeing with these teams a little bit more?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you know, it's tough because again, the Saints,
Speaker 3: I think as a whole are the better team, but man,
Speaker 3: laying three points with them just doesn't feel right.
Speaker 4: Hit this point all right?
Speaker 1: Last one here, Pittsburgh Steelers one and a half point underdogs.
Speaker 1: Here we go again, Sam, the Cleveland Browns are coming
Speaker 1: to town. Cleveland looked really sharp, really good, and I
Speaker 1: think Cleveland's one of those teams that needed to get
Speaker 1: off to a good start. Answer some questions about Deshaun Watson,
Speaker 1: answer some questions about who this team's gonna be and
Speaker 1: how they're gonna play this year. They did that, but
Speaker 1: as the Indivision game, we all know you can basically
Speaker 1: just erase that again because you just never know Week
Speaker 1: two week what's gonna happen. Forty two and a half
Speaker 1: is the number, Sam, do you think Pittsburgh rebounds. Do
Speaker 1: you think Cleveland rolls Pittsburgh two weeks in a row.
Speaker 3: I don't think Pittsburgh rebounds, but I also don't think
Speaker 3: Cleveland rolls quite again, I mean, Cleveland's defense looked tremendous.
Speaker 3: I do think we need to give them some credits
Speaker 3: with bringing in Jim Schwartz as their defensive coordinator this offseason.
Speaker 3: The Steelers offense looked out of sorts. It seems like
Speaker 3: they're going to be without Deontay Johnson as well, and
Speaker 3: so I as good as the you know, Brown's offensive
Speaker 3: output was on Sunday, Deshaun Watson still looked out of sorts.
Speaker 3: He was missing some passes and it just didn't look
Speaker 3: very pretty. So I'm staying away from this game to
Speaker 3: I think if I was going to pick something, it
Speaker 3: would be the under Right now, it looks like the
Speaker 3: line is dropping to about forty and a half or
Speaker 3: forty on some books, which is is low. But again
Speaker 3: it's the AFC North. I hate to pull that card,
Speaker 3: but both of these defenses I think can be up
Speaker 3: to the task to stop the opposing offense.
Speaker 1: Fits any input here on this one. Here, this is
Speaker 1: a tough one. To tight one. Vegas is telling you so.
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, the Steelers hurt me so much. They turned
Speaker 2: what should have been a winning Week one into a
Speaker 2: break even Week one. So I'm gonna maybe I'll just
Speaker 2: double up to catch up on Steelers games this week,
Speaker 2: because there you go. You know, last week from from
Speaker 2: the Steelers bye week on, they were sick in the
Speaker 2: NFL and overall DVOA, and then they look terrific in
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three preseason. So I was really surprised
Speaker 2: that they laid an egg as big as they did
Speaker 2: in Week one against the forty nine Ers. And I
Speaker 2: suspect we will not see consecutive poor performances under Mike Tomlin.
Speaker 2: That the sort of thing just doesn't happen under Mike
Speaker 2: Tomlin with the Steelers, So I like them to rebound
Speaker 2: against a Browns team that should come in again. Joe,
Speaker 2: it's the formula fat and happy against very angry and bitter.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bet the angry better team this time.
Speaker 1: You listen to fits is probably right. I'm scared to death.
Speaker 1: I need some more time to marry on this one.
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