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Speaker 1: and it's time already if you can believe it. To

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Speaker 1: look ahead to week two in the NFL. Some fun

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Speaker 1: things happening in week one, some not some fun things

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Speaker 1: as well. Got that Cleveland upset that felt really good.

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Speaker 1: The Pittsburgh Steeler one did not go well. Oh God.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of not going well, how about those Giants. That

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Speaker 1: was a tough loss there on Sunday night football in

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Speaker 1: front of the entire world. But again, it's only week one,

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Speaker 1: So how much are we gonna take out of that

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Speaker 1: of it in the early lines. That's what today is about.

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Speaker 1: And to help me do it, of course, is Pat

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Speaker 1: Fitzmorris back again as always every Monday, and our new

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Speaker 1: best friend Sam Hoppin, who is also our data analyst wizard,

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Speaker 1: who is gonna give you some hard, cold facts based

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Speaker 1: And that sounds like a good thing to me. FITZI,

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Speaker 1: I know we kind of talked about this in week

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers went into Minnesota and one. I

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Speaker 1: to happen. What was the most surprising outcome of all

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Speaker 1: the games for you in Week one?

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Speaker 2: The Bengals getting six first downs, Joe, Like, I did

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Speaker 2: not see that one coming at all, you know, Like,

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Speaker 2: I thought that was going to be a pretty close

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Speaker 2: the Bengals are a team, I have no idea what

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Speaker 2: to make of as we head into Week two, right now?

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Speaker 1: All right, Sam, your week one obviously tumultuous, I'm sure

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Speaker 3: I mean, it was the Rams over the Seahawks. For me,

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Speaker 3: I didn't think the Rams had any shot of putting

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Speaker 4: So that was pretty shocking to me.

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Speaker 3: And then the Seahawks offense not really clicking like we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so a lot of things to get through and

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Speaker 1: obviously looking at we too, we still got one more

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Speaker 1: And let's start here with the Minnesota Vikings and the

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Speaker 1: Probably in some ways, Pat, the best thing for the

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Speaker 1: that terrible, horrible, no good loss. If you're looking right

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Speaker 1: So does the seven and a half feel right here

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Speaker 1: and the total at forty eight and a half early on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the line feels about right what it

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Speaker 5: Than they did in Week one.

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Speaker 1: do you see any early value on this game here?

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Speaker 3: The Packers defense played better than I think a lot

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Speaker 3: Well, so I slightly lean the Packers on the side

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Speaker 1: All right, so as the Packers may or may not

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Speaker 1: be healthy this week, Pat, you've seen any early value

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, just before we started recording the show, the

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Speaker 2: Packers were minus one on DraftKings, and I think that

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Speaker 2: there would only be one way this line would move

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Speaker 2: be even money at worst, maybe favored if that happened.

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Speaker 2: Sam mentioned how well the Packers' defense played, and we're

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Speaker 2: the Bears. The trouble is, the Packers are better against

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Speaker 2: like I'm inclined to take the Falcons in the money

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Speaker 2: Like I just I would want to bet the over,

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Speaker 2: If anything, I would take the over, but I don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the under sounds interesting, especially with that pace of

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Speaker 1: home too with Algier and Jean Robinson. The Bears are

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Speaker 1: Bucks go home conquering heroes of Minnesota minus two and

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Speaker 1: a half. Here on the Bucks side, they are favorites.

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Speaker 1: Forty three and a half is basically that number you're

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Speaker 1: getting on this pat. I'm gonna ask you this straight up.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the wrong team is just favored in

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Speaker 5: It seems that way, Joe.

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Speaker 2: And normally one of my favorite bets is the team

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Speaker 2: coming off a bitter defeat against the team that's fat

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Speaker 2: and happy coming off a satisfying victory. But I was

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Speaker 2: so thoroughly unimpressed with the Bears passing game and the

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Speaker 2: So I was kind of nervous about that, and I'm

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Speaker 2: not really ready to touch this one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can understand that this one has a lot

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Speaker 1: on the Tampa Bay Bucaneers. And it feels the lines

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Speaker 1: telling us that, but Sam, should we be listening?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think Chicago is the pick here. There

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Speaker 3: looks like they're right around minus two and a half,

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Speaker 3: This is what I'm not quite sure about right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Pat, are you staying away right now from this

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Speaker 2: I am, Joe, I'm staying away. It's another case of

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Speaker 1: Pat, barring catastrophic injuries, I'm not going to take too

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense, Sam, when you're

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Speaker 3: I don't know that there is a game outcome tonight

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Speaker 1: all good things, not so good things here for the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: A tough loss. There a PI that probably a lot

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Speaker 1: They are again three point underdogs going into Tennessee, Tennessee's

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Speaker 1: half is the number for this one, Sam, when you're

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Speaker 3: I think that the Chargers go in and lay it

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Speaker 1: Pat, this is one again. On paper, it looks pretty obvious.

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Speaker 2: Tannehill looked every bit as bad as the stat line

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Speaker 2: Cannot bring myself to bet against Mike Vrabel at home,

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Speaker 5: Oh, look at this show.

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Speaker 2: We're early in the season and we're on the same

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Speaker 2: and you mentioned it. The only thing I would touch

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Speaker 2: the under, not pay any attention, and you know, see

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00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,040
Speaker 2: if I made any money come three o'clock Central time

438
00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:21,720
Speaker 2: on Sunday.

439
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,359
Speaker 1: Sam. Typically this you know, part in the season two

440
00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:26,760
Speaker 1: where teams are still ramping up, the unders tend to

441
00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 1: come in a little bit more historically speaking, do you

442
00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,200
Speaker 1: think this is one of those instances? With this game here?

443
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:32,080
Speaker 4: It is?

444
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,119
Speaker 3: And I think Houston. Houston's defense is probably the best

445
00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:39,879
Speaker 3: unit of all of them on that are going to

446
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 3: be on the field on Sunday. They held the Ravens

447
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,040
Speaker 3: offense to a negative expected points added per drop back

448
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 3: on Sunday as success rate of only thirty nine percent.

449
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,879
Speaker 3: They pressured Lamar Jackson on thirty nine percent of his

450
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 3: drop backs and sacked him on fifteen percent.

451
00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,920
Speaker 4: So I think with the Colts.

452
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,240
Speaker 3: Offensive line in, you know, as good as Anthony Richardson

453
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,920
Speaker 3: is at avoiding sacks. I mean you could have said

454
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,320
Speaker 3: the same thing about Lamar Jackson and they were able

455
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,240
Speaker 3: to get to him. So I do think with this

456
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,920
Speaker 3: low of a total. Obviously, the cult side of things

457
00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:20,000
Speaker 3: comes into play as a potential teaser leg if you

458
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 3: want to do that pushing them out to seven and

459
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 3: a half, if they're plus one and a half on

460
00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:26,879
Speaker 3: your book.

461
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,480
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens and Lamar Jackson are now going to travel

462
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Speaker 1: after a big win against Houston last week, They're going

463
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 1: to travel Cincinnati, who, let's be honest, did not look good.

464
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: And this is a fascinating situation here. So the Bengals

465
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: get the three right now. Everyone's just kind of sitting

466
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 1: and waiting here. And for those of you who don't remember,

467
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 1: the Bengals came out of the gates slow last year

468
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 1: too ohing two. Joe Burrow never seems to have a

469
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: normal offseason no matter what happens. So I, for one, Sam,

470
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:54,399
Speaker 1: I'm just not going to take too much out of this.

471
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: The Bengals are favorites. I think they should be favorites.

472
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: I think the Bengals are going to win this football game.

473
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 1: At the end of the day. The number for this

474
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,080
Speaker 1: game is forty five and a half. I don't see

475
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: any early value on this. I was hoping that we

476
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 1: would see potentially maybe over the week, that people would

477
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 1: start to maybe bet the Ravens and all of a

478
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,359
Speaker 1: sudden this number would move a little bit, and maybe

479
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 1: it will. Do you think this game does move as

480
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,520
Speaker 1: people have more time to sit with how bad Joe

481
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 1: Burrow and the Bengals were, or do you think they're

482
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,600
Speaker 1: just going to believe and how good Joe Burrow and

483
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 1: the Bengals have been and this number is going to hold.

484
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 4: I think it stays about the same.

485
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 3: I mean, the one big question on the Ravens side

486
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 3: is Mark Andrew's health is decent. As the safe Flowers

487
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 3: and Rashad Bateman played in the game in Houston, I

488
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 3: just mentioned how poor they were on a per drop

489
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 3: back basis. I mean, the Bengals are favored by three

490
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 3: at home, depending on how much you account towards home

491
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 3: field advantage. That makes this almost close to a pick

492
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 3: on a neutral field. And that's sort of where it

493
00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 3: feels like these teams are just you know, the offense

494
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 3: didn't look great, even though it's you know, this new

495
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 3: explosive offense from Todd Monkin. The Bengals looked absolutely atrocious.

496
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 3: But on the whole, I think we expect the Bengals

497
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 3: to come back, So I honestly think this line is

498
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,679
Speaker 3: right about perfect where it is right now, both the

499
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 3: total and the side, So I'm not touching it right now.

500
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 3: I'm waiting to see what happens with Mark Andrews and

501
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 3: then potentially playing the Ravens.

502
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the interesting play is if Andrews' health gets better,

503
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,159
Speaker 1: maybe you do go to the opposite side and maybe it's

504
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: another zero to two stard for the Bengals. Pat, But

505
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 1: I'm kind of where Sam is, which is this just

506
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: feels right. I still believe in the Cincinnati Bengals. One

507
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: bad week is not going to change after me, especially

508
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 1: with the bad weather, especially with the ferocious pass rush

509
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: with Miles Garrett that they have and a guy who

510
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 1: was really, you know, just trying to get back in

511
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,320
Speaker 1: action and you could tell things were just off. They

512
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 1: were out of sync. And I can only imagine a

513
00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: full healthy week of practice hopefully things get better for

514
00:23:58,359 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: the Bengals. But how do you see this one? Pat?

515
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we know that Week one is often sort

516
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 2: of an extension of the preseason with how little the

517
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 2: starters play in the new three week NFL preseason, But man,

518
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 2: I just cannot bet the Bengals after what I saw yesterday,

519
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 2: and I watched a lot of that game, even though

520
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 2: the Bengals offense was making my eyeballs bleed, Like I

521
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:25,640
Speaker 2: just subjected myself to that torture and the six first downs,

522
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,360
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. I just have a hard time believing

523
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 2: they can suddenly stomp the gas pedal and kick it

524
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,600
Speaker 2: in against a good Ravens defense. And like, I'd be

525
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 2: all the more eager to take this game if I thought,

526
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: if I was totally confident Lamar Jackson could take advantage

527
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 2: of the Bengals safeties. You know, they no longer have

528
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 2: Jesse Bates back. There was intercepting passes for the Falcons yesterday.

529
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 2: They've no longer got Von Bell back there. So man,

530
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,199
Speaker 2: as much as the Ravens passing game looked out of

531
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 2: sank everyone except say Flowers at least yesterday. Like, I

532
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: want to play the raven this game because I just

533
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 2: I have a hard time like the Ravens do not

534
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 2: play many clunkers. It's pretty rare for the Ravens to

535
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 2: go out there and lay an egg. They're usually gonna

536
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: give you their best shot under John Harbaugh. And I

537
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: just don't know if the Bengals can take a good

538
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 2: punch with the way they looked in Week one.

539
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: Interesting. You know, all off season, Pat, I talked about it.

540
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,399
Speaker 1: I was like losing Von Bell and Jesse Bates, I

541
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: think is a little Everyone kept telling me that's okay,

542
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 1: We're getting younger and more athletic, and maybe that's true,

543
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: but they're not getting more experienced. And I think that's

544
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 1: something you saw in this first week here that made

545
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 1: a difference in that game. The Chiefs have had a

546
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: long time to think long and hard about what went

547
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 1: wrong for them on opening night. They are still three

548
00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 1: point favorites going on the road for the Jacksonville Jaguars.

549
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 1: The number for this one is fifty one and a half. Now, look,

550
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: Kevin Ridley look good, Say Jones look good. Trevor Lawrence

551
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: played well. So you know, I think Jacksonville, you know,

552
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: went in their tough Indivision game on the road. They

553
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: came out with the w. That's all the matter is

554
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: now they go home. But Pat, let's be honest. If

555
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs had stopped the mud hole like

556
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 1: they should have in the Detroit Lions and Canarius Tony

557
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 1: caught anything and they won by ten points, this would

558
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: not be three. Therefore, I'm on Kansas City and I'm

559
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: Kansas City right now because I think as more people

560
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: have time to think about this one, I think more

561
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: people are gonna start to gravitate towards that idea.

562
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 2: What do you think, Yeah, we've got Andy Reid with

563
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 2: extra prep time, the Chiefs in a rare hole since

564
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: they haven't lost a Week one game since I believe

565
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen.

566
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Speaker 5: So maybe a little more.

567
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 2: Urgency for the Chiefs after, you know, in eight years

568
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:32,400
Speaker 2: of winning Week one and Joe, we know which way

569
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 2: the line is going to move if we get any

570
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 2: positive news on the Travis Kelce injury front or the

571
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: Chris Jones contract front.

572
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 5: So like suddenly you're not.

573
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Speaker 1: Honestly pat They got to the quarterback, they put pressure

574
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 1: on Jared Goff, like you know, Nick Bolton was over there,

575
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: going over the top in the middle there like that.

576
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: It wasn't even a matter of like putting pressure on

577
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,919
Speaker 1: and Chris Jones's presence, although important on the field, it's

578
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: not why they lost that game. They lost that game

579
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: because just the ineptitude of the wide receiver record. Again

580
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 1: on the same page here were Patrick Maholmes. But I

581
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: don't think I'm going to bet on that happening two

582
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:04,400
Speaker 1: weeks in a row.

583
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 5: Are you agreed? Agreed, and so get it now.

584
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 2: But we know that the news on those guys would

585
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: change the line, Joe, and right now you're getting them

586
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 2: at less than you know, less than a field goal

587
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 2: for sure, because if you don't grab the Chiefs, and

588
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 2: Chiefs now at minus two and a half on DraftKings

589
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,639
Speaker 2: as of this morning, I think it could go to

590
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: four four and a half if we know they have

591
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: Kelsey and Jones.

592
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 1: Sam, do you see things going in that same direction

593
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 1: if you start to get better buzz as the week

594
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: goes on that this number is going to grow here,

595
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: especially if Kelsey's back for this one.

596
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 4: I do think so.

597
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 3: I was pretty surprised last Thursday how much the line

598
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 3: had moved after the Kelsey news and then confirmation that

599
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 3: Chris Jones wasn't going to play. I think individually neither

600
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 3: of them are worth the amount of points that the

601
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: line moved, but together they are the second and third

602
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 3: best players on the Kansas City Chiefs, so to get

603
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 3: potentially both of them back would be huge. I do

604
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: think that Chris Jones might have the bigger impact on

605
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,719
Speaker 3: this game if he is able to play. And I

606
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 3: say that because the Jaguars offensive line did not look great.

607
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 3: I think one of their starters went down part way

608
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 3: through the game. I can't recall if he came back,

609
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 3: but yes, yes, that's what I was thinking of. So

610
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 3: if Chris Jones was back, I mean again, we saw

611
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 3: that Kansas City was able to get some pressure on

612
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 3: Jared Goff and Detroit has one of the best offensive

613
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: lines in the league. If if they're at full strength

614
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 3: against this Jaguars team, I think that Kansas City could

615
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 3: just blow them away. I echo all of the sentiment

616
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 3: you guys made about the drops and those being super

617
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: fluky and not likely going to happen two weeks in

618
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 3: a row.

619
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Speaker 1: The Rams, who historically have given the forty nine ers

620
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: fits the last few years, they are seven point underdogs

621
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,479
Speaker 1: at home against the forty nine ers who went out

622
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: there to non conference game on the road and beat

623
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: the crap out of the Pittsburgh Yards. Let's be honest,

624
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: that's exactly what they did. This one's fascinating to me. Sam.

625
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: The numbers forty two and a half, the line of

626
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: seven Pukinakua played very well. The Rams are coming off

627
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: a huge road victory in their division. I love the

628
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: Rams in this game, Am I wrong?

629
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 4: I think so?

630
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, the lines actually moved another point. The

631
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 3: forty nine Ers are now favored by eight points, which

632
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: I think is more about confidence in the forty nine

633
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 3: Ers as a team than you know, disbarring what happened

634
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 3: with the Rams in their game. I mean, the defense

635
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 3: was dominant, the offense was clicking on all cylinders, brock

636
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 3: Perty was making some plays, and so I think that

637
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 3: again laying the points, Laying eight points is going to

638
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 3: be is a lot in a division game. I think

639
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: this is another opportunity to tease the forty nine Ers

640
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: down to two points, because again I say, there's I

641
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 3: don't see a situation in which the the Rams come

642
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: away with a win here. Obviously.

643
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 4: I think I saw said the same thing last week.

644
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you might have said the same

645
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: thing last eight times they've met, though, because the forty

646
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: nine Ers always look like the better team on paper,

647
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: and the forty nine Ers again struggle against the Rams,

648
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: that fits that. That's I think what's so important. This

649
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: is one of those games I think that's really stands

650
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: out to me because Matthew Stafford is not Kenny Pickett,

651
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: so they're gonna meet another quarterback here. It's very different.

652
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: So Fits, when you're looking at the do you do

653
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: you think that maybe again, this is one of those

654
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 1: traps where we feel so good about the forty nine ers,

655
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: will look so good week one, but we forget, Hey,

656
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: this is a whole other set of circumstances and this

657
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: is a team in the Rams Fits that has really

658
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: given them problems over the last few seasons.

659
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Speaker 5: Well, Joe, I went back and looked at that.

660
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: I wonder if it was maybe like earlier in the

661
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 2: Sean McVay era, that the Rams were sort of had

662
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 2: the Niners number, because it looks like the Niners of

663
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: one eight of the last nine in this series.

664
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Speaker 5: And like some of those games were close.

665
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Speaker 2: I don't know what the ATS record would be for

666
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers, but yeah, I mean, like I

667
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: was surprised by how well the Rams defense played against Seattle,

668
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: or maybe the Seahawks offense was just that bad, and

669
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: I have a hard time seeing the Rams be able

670
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 2: to stop this forty nine Ers offense, which looked so

671
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 2: machine like against a very good Pittsburgh defense.

672
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah in week.

673
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 2: One, so yeah, I mean like hearing that this has

674
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: gone from seven to eight makes me a little nervous.

675
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: Like I love getting it at an even seven points,

676
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 2: but push it past the touchdown, I get a little

677
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: more nervous. As of now, I'm just going to lay

678
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 2: off this game.

679
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: I think, give me the rams. I don't know, I'm

680
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: feeling crazy. I don't know why I'm so anti forty

681
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: nine er this year. I don't know. Bruckburdy look great,

682
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: Everything looked great. I'm just not there yet. I need

683
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: to see it again New York. I don't know if

684
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: I need to see them again. They are five point under,

685
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: excuse me, five point favorites going on the road to Arizona.

686
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 1: That feels right. Fits again, I don't know. This is

687
00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: the game you want to get involved in right here.

688
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 1: Thirty eight and a half is the number of most

689
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: spots here. Some I'm thirty eight as well. The Giants

690
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 1: looked awful. They got nothing done. This is going to

691
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: be a rough week for them. Fits. Do you think

692
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 1: they take it out on the Cardinals here?

693
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 5: Betters were so mortified by that performance.

694
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 1: Joe.

695
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 2: It's already down to four and a half I guess

696
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 2: people are betting the Cardinals on this, but man, I

697
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 2: feel like the Giants have to bounce back.

698
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 5: Don't they like that?

699
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: That Actually their first drive of the game, they were

700
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 2: going right downfield. Then what Daniel Jones like there was

701
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 2: a fumbled snap or something. They got thrown back, knock

702
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: back to like outside the twenty five yard line, get

703
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 2: the field goal blocked and run in for a touchdown,

704
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: and everything just snowballed from there. So, man, I feel

705
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 2: like they're gonna bounce back. I still have a lot

706
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: of faith in Brian Dable as a head coach. I

707
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: think he's gonna circle the wagons this week and you know,

708
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: beat a team that we really don't know if they

709
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: actually want to win games this year. With the Cardinals,

710
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: I mean they are. They are all in, I think

711
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: in the Caleb Williams Derby. So you know, I'm going

712
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 2: to keep targeting the Cardinals to bet against as long

713
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: as the line stay reasonable enough and we don't get

714
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: any of the college football realm of lines where we're

715
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: seeing you know, twenty point spreads every week.

716
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: Sam, I know it was as bad as it could

717
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 1: possibly get Sunday Night, but the Arizona Cardinals are also

718
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: theoretically as bad as a guest, do you think the

719
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 1: five is actually with the four and a half now?

720
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: Is still too much credit from what you didn't see

721
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 1: out of the Giants yesterday?

722
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I think this is a good line.

723
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 3: I made it about four points before the end of

724
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 3: the Sunday night football game. I think five is probably

725
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: a good line too. And what take the Giants here?

726
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 3: I mean they were playing what many pegged as the

727
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 3: best defense in the league in Dallas coming into the season,

728
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: so their struggles on offense are not as surprising as

729
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: I think many people thought it was. Now granted, their

730
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 3: entire offenses basically Darren Waller and Saquon Barkley, but I

731
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 3: think they'll have so much more success against Arizona's defense

732
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: than Dallas's defense. I think Daniel Jones is a much

733
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: better quarterback at least right now than Sam Howell is,

734
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: and so I'd be laying the points with the Giants here.

735
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 3: I think this is a by low opportunity on the

736
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 3: Giants and a potential for them to bounce back in

737
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: a big way.

738
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 1: We'll see if the line changes after Monday Night Football

739
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: but Dallas is three point favorites at home against the Jets,

740
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: and AT's go to the Jets defense is with that

741
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: offensive line struggling a little bit in preseason, Sam, if

742
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 1: you're watching Micah Parsons get to the quarterback on Sunday

743
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: Night and watching some of the problems that they were

744
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,960
Speaker 1: giving Daniel Jones, I am. I'm loving the Cowboys out

745
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: of this game at the three, at the minus one

746
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: ten right now forty five and a half depending on

747
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: the sportsbook. That's where the number is in terms of

748
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: the total. But I don't want to take too much

749
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: out of Week one and now how good teams look,

750
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: how good you bad teams can also look. But the

751
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,279
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys defense looks like it's for real, and they

752
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: were for real last year too, one of the better

753
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: fantasy defenses around. Do you think that this one should

754
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: be this close?

755
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 4: I do think so.

756
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,840
Speaker 3: I you know, I mentioned earlier that the game tonight

757
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 3: won't have much impact on Buffalo's outlook rest of season,

758
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 3: but I think it could change a lot about New

759
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: York's outlook rest of season, because again, we don't know

760
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 3: what this offense is going to look like with Aaron Rodgers.

761
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 3: I you know, the defense is supposed to be great,

762
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 3: but can they contain Josh Allen like they had in

763
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 3: the past. I think where I would attack this game

764
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: is the under Aaron Rodgers is notoriously a slow guy.

765
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 3: He drains the play clock down to the last second.

766
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 3: Both of these defenses are again incredible. New York has

767
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 3: some issues on the offensive line. Dallas I think still

768
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 3: wants to run the ball a bit more when they can,

769
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 3: and so I would take under forty six if you

770
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 3: can get.

771
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 1: That, all right, Pat, how do you feel about this one?

772
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: I'm very much on the Cowboys side of this game

773
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: no matter what happens good or bad for the Jets tonight.

774
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: Your thoughts on Jets and Cowboys? Do you see any

775
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 1: early value?

776
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 5: Yeah?

777
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: I kind of feel the same way Sam does about

778
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 2: this game, like I don't want to touch either side.

779
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 5: Jets Yets.

780
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: I agree with your takes on the Cowboys, Joe. You know,

781
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 2: I was kind of in on the Cowboys preseason and

782
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 2: have some futures on them to win the NFC and

783
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 2: win the Super Bowl.

784
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 5: But I mean I.

785
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 2: Do think the Jets have If you're going to keep

786
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: giving me Jets totals in the mid forties. As we

787
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 2: get in Week one with Bill's Jets, and as we

788
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 2: get in Week two with Cowboys Jets, I'm going to

789
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: keep pounding the under because I think the Jets might

790
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: have the best defense in the league, or at least

791
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 2: certainly right up there with Dallas, San Francisco, Philadelphia. And

792
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, Joe, I mean, the Jets offensive line

793
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: is a row of New York subway turnstiles, So I mean,

794
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,280
Speaker 2: like that's gonna be a This is an under team

795
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: absolutely with Micah Parsons. I mean, how are they gonna

796
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: block Micah Parsons.

797
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 1: They're not and this and that's gonna cause the turnovers,

798
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: and that's gonna cost some problems. And that's why I'm

799
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: more on the Dallas side of this game than the total,

800
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: because I fear some of those turnovers, if they turn

801
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: into points, that's gonna be a problem for that total number.

802
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: That could be because look look what happened on Sunday.

803
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: Think it would be a very big repeat of that.

804
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: The Broncos hosting the Commanders. The Broncos are three and

805
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: a half point home favorites. Their home debut did not

806
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 1: go well yesterday, FITZI, the number is forty for this one.

807
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: I have no idea yet of who these teams really are.

808
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 1: I'm running from this game.

809
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of those teams. This is one of those

810
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: lines show. I just looked at it and threw my

811
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 2: hands up in the air, like.

812
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 1: No, okay, you can have it, Sam, you want anything

813
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: on this one, or you want to hard pass this one.

814
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 3: I'd take Washington and the points here.

815
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: Okay.

816
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 3: Denver's offense still looks out of sorts. I think Washington's

817
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 3: defense is incredible. That defensive line you know, was wrecking

818
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 3: Arizona's offensive line. I don't think Denver's offensive line is

819
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 3: that great either. Denver's offense again, it just looks out

820
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 3: of sorts. I think they still have a ways to

821
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 3: go to get to where they want to be. Such

822
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 3: a low total two, I think they keep this game

823
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 3: close and have the potential to even win outright against Denver.

824
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 1: All Right, The New England Patriots are at home again

825
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: two weeks in a row. They are again home underdogs.

826
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: Plus two is the number against the Miami Dolphins, who

827
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: put on a show there with Tyreek Hill and Tuatungua

828
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: Biloa in Los Angeles if you like the patch for

829
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: the upset plus one fourteen on the money line, but

830
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: forty five and a half is the number for this one, Sam,

831
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: do you see any early value here?

832
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: I gotta go with Miami. I mean, their offense just

833
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: looked so good. New England plays a decent amount of

834
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 3: man coverage and that I don't know that there's anyone

835
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 3: that can can cover this Tyreek and Watto combination. You know,

836
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 3: it's New England's defense is great, and they did do

837
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 3: a lot to stifle Philadelphia's offense. But again, we saw

838
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 3: on display yesterday what Miami's offense can do, how.

839
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 4: Explosive they are.

840
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 3: Tool was making some great throws, and I do think

841
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 3: Miami's defense does have a little bit of work to do.

842
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: They didn't play great against the Chargers, but this New

843
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 3: England offense is not nearly as daunting as the Chargers

844
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 3: offense is. So I'll take the minus two with Miami here.

845
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: All right, Well, they did hold the Eagles to one

846
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: offensive touchdown. Does that matter to you at all?

847
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 5: Here?

848
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: Pat Do you think Miami comes out here a little

849
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: flat after a huge output last week?

850
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 5: Yeah?

851
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,759
Speaker 2: Joe, I mean you're a Patriots fan. But I can

852
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: assure you I'm not just pandering to you when I

853
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: say that I like the Patriots and have already bet

854
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 2: the Patriots.

855
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 5: In this game.

856
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: I just it feels like the Dolphins are getting a

857
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 2: little bit too much credit with this line for that,

858
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 2: you know, undisputedly impressive victory against the Chargers, and it

859
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like the Pats are getting quite enough credit

860
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 2: for putting up a really good fight. As I said,

861
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: they outgained the Eagles by one hundred and thirty one

862
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: yards in that game in Week one. Now Miami has

863
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 2: to go from playing on the West coast to playing

864
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: in the Northeast. It's the NFL's hurricane season avoidance schedule,

865
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: and that's a pretty tough two week opening road stretch.

866
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 2: So I kind of like the Patriots here for a

867
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: second straight week at home, regrouping after the tough loss

868
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: to the Philadelphia Eagles in Week one.

869
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: All right, two more Prime times talk about here, the

870
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints and the Carolina Panthers. The Panthers are

871
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: at home. They are two and a half point underdogs

872
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: at home to the Saints. Forty and a half is

873
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: the number here. Saints defense look pretty good. This line

874
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: feels about right to me. I don't see any value, Papa,

875
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 1: to you.

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00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 5: Nope, no value.

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Speaker 2: You know, I just don't quite believe in the Saints

878
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,479
Speaker 2: enough to bet them as a three point road dog

879
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: or roads.

880
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Speaker 1: Do you agree here? What you're just kind of waiting

881
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,839
Speaker 1: and seeing with these teams a little bit more?

882
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 4: Yeah?

883
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you know, it's tough because again, the Saints,

884
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 3: I think as a whole are the better team, but man,

885
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 3: laying three points with them just doesn't feel right.

886
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 4: Hit this point all right?

887
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: Last one here, Pittsburgh Steelers one and a half point underdogs.

888
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: Here we go again, Sam, the Cleveland Browns are coming

889
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: to town. Cleveland looked really sharp, really good, and I

890
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: think Cleveland's one of those teams that needed to get

891
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: off to a good start. Answer some questions about Deshaun Watson,

892
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: answer some questions about who this team's gonna be and

893
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: how they're gonna play this year. They did that, but

894
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 1: as the Indivision game, we all know you can basically

895
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: just erase that again because you just never know Week

896
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: two week what's gonna happen. Forty two and a half

897
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: is the number, Sam, do you think Pittsburgh rebounds. Do

898
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: you think Cleveland rolls Pittsburgh two weeks in a row.

899
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 3: I don't think Pittsburgh rebounds, but I also don't think

900
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 3: Cleveland rolls quite again, I mean, Cleveland's defense looked tremendous.

901
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,760
Speaker 3: I do think we need to give them some credits

902
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 3: with bringing in Jim Schwartz as their defensive coordinator this offseason.

903
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: The Steelers offense looked out of sorts. It seems like

904
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 3: they're going to be without Deontay Johnson as well, and

905
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: so I as good as the you know, Brown's offensive

906
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 3: output was on Sunday, Deshaun Watson still looked out of sorts.

907
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 3: He was missing some passes and it just didn't look

908
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 3: very pretty. So I'm staying away from this game to

909
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 3: I think if I was going to pick something, it

910
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: would be the under Right now, it looks like the

911
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 3: line is dropping to about forty and a half or

912
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 3: forty on some books, which is is low. But again

913
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 3: it's the AFC North. I hate to pull that card,

914
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 3: but both of these defenses I think can be up

915
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: to the task to stop the opposing offense.

916
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Speaker 1: Fits any input here on this one. Here, this is

917
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: a tough one. To tight one. Vegas is telling you so.

918
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: Oh, Joe, the Steelers hurt me so much. They turned

919
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 2: what should have been a winning Week one into a

920
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 2: break even Week one. So I'm gonna maybe I'll just

921
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: double up to catch up on Steelers games this week,

922
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: because there you go. You know, last week from from

923
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 2: the Steelers bye week on, they were sick in the

924
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 2: NFL and overall DVOA, and then they look terrific in

925
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty three preseason. So I was really surprised

926
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: that they laid an egg as big as they did

927
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: in Week one against the forty nine Ers. And I

928
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 2: suspect we will not see consecutive poor performances under Mike Tomlin.

929
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: That the sort of thing just doesn't happen under Mike

930
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 2: Tomlin with the Steelers, So I like them to rebound

931
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: against a Browns team that should come in again. Joe,

932
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: it's the formula fat and happy against very angry and bitter.

933
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,399
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bet the angry better team this time.

934
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Speaker 1: You listen to fits is probably right. I'm scared to death.

935
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Speaker 1: I need some more time to marry on this one.

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