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Speaker 1: We always love hearing that and where people are watching from. Um,
Speaker 1: so as we get people chance to start submitting some
Speaker 1: of those questions. Uh. Two things sort of developments since
Speaker 1: our last show. Uh One is that we know Drew
Speaker 1: Brees is gonna return with the Saints and the others
Speaker 1: that we actually got to hear from Bruce arians this
Speaker 1: last week after you know, once the season ends usually
Speaker 1: there's a kind of prolonged period of no access to
Speaker 1: to those guys. So let's start with Bruce. What were
Speaker 1: some of the things you guys talked to him about
Speaker 1: in any insights or things that came from fact. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure i'd label that as a development because it
Speaker 1: was basically the oposite of a development. You know, it's
Speaker 1: funny in this period when something like this happens and
Speaker 1: the general public probably thinks, oh, he did Drewce decided
Speaker 1: to come out and say something about these topics for
Speaker 1: the first time in like six weeks. Well, it wasn't
Speaker 1: really that. What happens is your coach, your GM just
Speaker 1: happens to be available at some event, and the media
Speaker 1: is aware of it, and they're doing their jobs, and
Speaker 1: they go there and if they get a chance to
Speaker 1: talk to him, they asked the questions they haven't got
Speaker 1: to ask in six weeks, so they did. But as
Speaker 1: it turns out, most of what Bruce said was the
Speaker 1: exact same thing he said six weeks ago. And he said,
Speaker 1: nothing's really changed, and he repeated one of the lines
Speaker 1: he said back then, which gets a lot of play,
Speaker 1: And that's basically too paraphrase, what's behind door number two?
Speaker 1: And that's in reference to what are the Buccaneers going
Speaker 1: to do? What do they want to do with quarterback
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston? And what's behind door number two means what
Speaker 1: other options are out there, and it is important to
Speaker 1: know that. I don't think anybody would think a team
Speaker 1: was doing their due diligence on deciding what direction to
Speaker 1: go with their potential franchise quarterback or some other if
Speaker 1: they don't have a good comparison. It's not necessary really
Speaker 1: a slight to Jamis or a vote for Jamis. It's
Speaker 1: the thing that a team should do. And until you
Speaker 1: know for sure who's going to be available, and until
Speaker 1: you get to talk to some of them, you know,
Speaker 1: you can't really put all the pieces together. Yeah we
Speaker 1: know now, like you said that Drew Brees is not
Speaker 1: going to be available, not think but he thought he
Speaker 1: was coming here. But does the fact that Drew Brees
Speaker 1: is definitely coming back mean Teddy Bridgewater is more likely
Speaker 1: to leave? As an example, so I would think so, yeah,
Speaker 1: And I think that seems to be the assumption the
Speaker 1: way everyone's talking about it is just that he isn't
Speaker 1: definitely not coming back, that Bridgewater will move on that
Speaker 1: he would think. I mean, he made seven and a
Speaker 1: half million, I think to be a backup last year.
Speaker 1: But you look at projections, what if some team wants
Speaker 1: to pay million to be at a starter, right, he
Speaker 1: tells me he's going to take that. Yeah, especially when
Speaker 1: the Saints still have Taysom Hill. It's not like they're
Speaker 1: all of a sudden like, oh man, we don't have
Speaker 1: a backup that they view him as a very viable backup. So, um,
Speaker 1: and he's a restricted free agents so they have a
Speaker 1: pretty good chance of keeping him right, which is a
Speaker 1: great point. Um, We've got a lot of people chiming
Speaker 1: in with where they're listening and watching and from, which
Speaker 1: is cool. We got Kansas City, We've got Puerto Rico.
Speaker 1: So a Bucks fan in Kansas City right now, I
Speaker 1: guess yeah, it's probably gonna be pretty miserable having to
Speaker 1: watch all of that Puerto Rico. We've got Georgia, Kentucky, um,
Speaker 1: North Carolina, Texas, a whole bunch of really fun places,
Speaker 1: which is awesome. You could just make it up, that's
Speaker 1: also true. Well, we've definitely had people do that the past,
Speaker 1: considering somebody I think at one point hit Antarctica and
Speaker 1: really sure that wasn't t yes, Nathan asked do you
Speaker 1: think we could get Bridgewater? So as we were discussing that,
Speaker 1: I mean, well, I mean seriously, though, when you start
Speaker 1: and that's if you can answer that question making the
Speaker 1: presumption that the Bucks are not going to resign Jamus Right, So,
Speaker 1: how many teams are going to be looking for a
Speaker 1: quarterback and are going to be in the in the
Speaker 1: business of paying in the position to pay somebody a
Speaker 1: veteran moving teams twenty million dollars. There's not a ton
Speaker 1: of them really when you look at it. So if
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater is looking for a place to start, and
Speaker 1: if it becomes clear that the Buccaneers are not going
Speaker 1: to continue forward, jamis and I would think this would
Speaker 1: become one of the top destinations that these quarterbacks would
Speaker 1: be looking at, especially when you consider who you're going
Speaker 1: to get to throw the ball to. Right, I mean,
Speaker 1: I would think any quarterback would want to come here
Speaker 1: and throw it to Mike and Chris and O Jane. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine any quarterback being like, no, that does
Speaker 1: sound fun. Um Austin asked, is it possible to afford
Speaker 1: Shack and trade for Jamal Adams. I think that would
Speaker 1: really put the defense over the top. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 1: He said? Also, I'm from Martinsburg, West Virginia, only fan around,
Speaker 1: so we get to resign check, but we also get
Speaker 1: to trade for one of the best safeties in the league.
Speaker 1: That'd be great. Yeah, it's possible to afford it. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, you're probably making a priority decision there though,
Speaker 1: because it's probably not possible to do that and get
Speaker 1: Jamal Items and bring back all of your all the
Speaker 1: other potential defensive free agents like in Diamond Ensue and
Speaker 1: Jason Pierre Paul and I know we Bruce Arians would
Speaker 1: definitely like to have all those players back as if
Speaker 1: he could. And in any case, are the Jets really
Speaker 1: gonna trade Jamal Items? I mean, are we just gonna
Speaker 1: start picking guys out that. Yeah, we forget that. There
Speaker 1: has to be the other half of where they have
Speaker 1: to be willing to get rid of this person, and
Speaker 1: that's probably not something they want to do well. I
Speaker 1: mean there obviously there was some talk about that during
Speaker 1: the season, which is why somebody would bring it up.
Speaker 1: But I would suspect he stays. But it's it's like
Speaker 1: with anything with trades, it's always easy to talk about
Speaker 1: like our end of it of what we want to do,
Speaker 1: and the same thing even with the draft of you know, well,
Speaker 1: can we trade down, It's like Yeah, you gotta have
Speaker 1: someone that's willing to do the other part. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's go ahead and resign Shack and trade for Jamal
Speaker 1: and maybe you get J J. Wattmaole. We're at it
Speaker 1: like I like I was coming together. Yeah. Sean asked
Speaker 1: what we drafted running back this year. I'd say there's
Speaker 1: a good shot. I would be surprised if it's in
Speaker 1: the first round. Um. I think we've talked about this
Speaker 1: a lot with some with some exceptions in recent years,
Speaker 1: like just the guys that are expected to be really
Speaker 1: elite workhorses like Ezekiel Elliott and Leonard Fournette. Um, the
Speaker 1: running backs aren't going as high as they used to
Speaker 1: write UM because they're considered assets you can get like
Speaker 1: Alvin Kamar in the third round. Guys like that, right,
Speaker 1: And so teams go into it thinking we can use
Speaker 1: our first round pick on something else, because we do
Speaker 1: think there's a good chance of getting one in the
Speaker 1: second or the third round. But yeah, that seems like
Speaker 1: something the Bucks could definitely do with one of their
Speaker 1: Day two or three picks. Um Scott said he's watching
Speaker 1: from New Mexico and yep, and he's uh, he asked,
Speaker 1: isn't Philip Rivers just an older Jamis? So as a
Speaker 1: lot of people have asked about Philip Rivers and how
Speaker 1: he would fit here and whether you'd want him over.
Speaker 1: I can get it. I get it. Everybody saying the
Speaker 1: same thing because um he I guess Philip Rivers had
Speaker 1: the third most interceptions in the league with twenty um.
Speaker 1: But they're not the same player. I mean that everybody
Speaker 1: since we got Jamis wanted to say that Jamis was
Speaker 1: just a younger Ben Roethlisberger. But they're not really the
Speaker 1: same player. I get the point, though. I think the
Speaker 1: point is, do you if you're moving on from Jameis Winston,
Speaker 1: it's not because he threw yards and thirty touchdowns, it's
Speaker 1: because of all the turnovers, right, And if you're moving on,
Speaker 1: do you then want to sign a new quarterback but
Speaker 1: over an older one, uh, who's probably beyond his peak,
Speaker 1: who also last year turned the ball over a lot.
Speaker 1: So I understand, but they're not the same guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: um Seawan asked, what is taking so long to sign Shock,
Speaker 1: Sue or JPP? So let's talk about it all, just
Speaker 1: the timeline of some of that stuff. It was, we've
Speaker 1: talked about this a couple of times. Just to be
Speaker 1: sure I was right about this, I went back and
Speaker 1: looked at our transaction logs from like the last ten years,
Speaker 1: and there's always a couple of guys you're trying to
Speaker 1: resign before the start of free agency. Free agency, right,
Speaker 1: Almost every one of those happened in March, and most
Speaker 1: of them were really close to the start of free agency,
Speaker 1: and some of them were even on the day of
Speaker 1: or a couple of days after. And in the case
Speaker 1: of say Shack, you potentially could use the franchise tag
Speaker 1: and extend those negotiations for weeks after the start of
Speaker 1: free agency. And so you've got two sides here that
Speaker 1: are trying to meet in a middle in a middle
Speaker 1: ground that works for both And as he absolutely should,
Speaker 1: Shaq is going to try to get as much in
Speaker 1: his contract as you can, and the Bucks, as they
Speaker 1: absolutely should, are going to try to make it as
Speaker 1: affordable for them as they can. And so it takes
Speaker 1: a while. You know, you're not gonna Shacks just not
Speaker 1: gonna take the first deal of Bucks went on the
Speaker 1: table or the first number they throw out there, and
Speaker 1: probably vice versus. So these things tend to be driven
Speaker 1: by deadlines, is the way I would put it. So
Speaker 1: that's why we're not hearing anything. You if you look
Speaker 1: back at all these types of transactions, you're not going
Speaker 1: to find a single one on what's today, December eighteen,
Speaker 1: You're not gonna find one. I was like, you're definitely
Speaker 1: not going to find him December exactly. Umaun Christmas, Yes,
Speaker 1: better get out there in hurry. Chauncey said, Um, are
Speaker 1: we going to address offensive line in the draft early?
Speaker 1: I think it's a good idea. And I've said that
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Uh. And if by early, I
Speaker 1: hope that means first round. Um, there is a good
Speaker 1: offensive tackle in particular depth in this draft, to the
Speaker 1: point where there's probably gonna be one or two guys
Speaker 1: that would normally be a top ten pick who are
Speaker 1: available at fourteen, which is where the Bucks are just
Speaker 1: start the first round. And if you look at a
Speaker 1: lot of mock drafts, you see a lot of that
Speaker 1: trust and worse from Iowa being one of them. You know,
Speaker 1: there's there's just McKay Beckton Will's um Anthony Thomas I
Speaker 1: think is from Georgia. Uh. Yeah, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: there's a lot of them. Austin Jackson from usc UH
Speaker 1: probably'll they'll start to um shake out a little bit
Speaker 1: in terms of the expected order that they'll go after
Speaker 1: the combine. But no, I think it's a really good idea.
Speaker 1: And I feel like that's reassuring when there are that
Speaker 1: many names all at the same position that especially even
Speaker 1: have been mocked to us, that it shows that it's
Speaker 1: not like there's one guy that's right, that's the only
Speaker 1: viable one. Like if you're gonna want and you know
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman, you better hope you get him or
Speaker 1: that's it. If they're that many guys, I feel like
Speaker 1: that's a great sign. Yeah. I would contrast that with
Speaker 1: another player that the Bucks are getting a lot in
Speaker 1: mock drafts is South Carolina defensive tackle. I guess we'd
Speaker 1: call him a defensive lineman in our defense, Javon kind Law.
Speaker 1: And in that case, I think Auburn's Derrick Brown is
Speaker 1: expected to go really high. But after that, he's clearly
Speaker 1: the next guy on everybody's board and there's not a
Speaker 1: lot of other ones, so um, that one makes it.
Speaker 1: You'll see that in a lot of mock drafts, and
Speaker 1: that it seems to me like that would be a
Speaker 1: good pick, But I also think it's less likely because
Speaker 1: you only need one Sam in front of us to
Speaker 1: really want an interior defensive lineman to make that not happen.
Speaker 1: Richard is watching from California, and he asked, who your
Speaker 1: favorite draft prospect is that would potentially be the best
Speaker 1: fit for the Bucks. Well, I guess we're going to
Speaker 1: say that we could actually get right, because if you can,
Speaker 1: if I can say anybody, i'd want to Chase Young,
Speaker 1: or even if you're if you're deciding to make a
Speaker 1: change of quarterback Joe Burrow right, so we're talking realistic.
Speaker 1: I really like the idea of I gotta get this right.
Speaker 1: I keep saying it wrong. Calivan, Clive and Chase on
Speaker 1: the l s u uh edge Rusher. Um, this could
Speaker 1: depend upon what happens. I mean, even if you get
Speaker 1: Shack back, you still could use another one. But if
Speaker 1: you resign Shack and JPP and maybe even Carl Nasson,
Speaker 1: then that's probably not a big need. But I really
Speaker 1: do like that prospect a lot. I think I think
Speaker 1: there's a lot of room for him to grow. He's
Speaker 1: got a lot of talent. Um I know he didn't
Speaker 1: have huge numbers last year, but he was really coming
Speaker 1: on at the end of the year, and I just
Speaker 1: think that's a guy that could really grow into even
Speaker 1: better lier than news right now. I saw that, Um
Speaker 1: it was I think John and Cameron and a few
Speaker 1: different people brought up justin Herbert, if there's a possibility
Speaker 1: that that's someone we either could get and would want
Speaker 1: to probably have to trade up for that, I would think, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I keep saying if you look at mock drafts,
Speaker 1: and yes, mock drafts are just mock drafts are just
Speaker 1: somebody's guesses, but uh, and if you look at them,
Speaker 1: you'll see him usually going in top ten, mayven, top five.
Speaker 1: You know, if if if he goes before to uh
Speaker 1: or if even there's three quarterbacks in the top five
Speaker 1: and then and what makes me think that will happen
Speaker 1: or something like that will happen is and we've talked
Speaker 1: about this many times in recent years, the quarterbacks tend
Speaker 1: to rise to get closer, right because teams, that's if
Speaker 1: you're gonna make a big investment in a quarterback, you
Speaker 1: probably have to do it high in the draft, right.
Speaker 1: And so if you even if you're picking ten and
Speaker 1: you're hoping a guy will fall to to you. You
Speaker 1: can't take that risk, so you trade up. So it
Speaker 1: and in the end it tends to be that the
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that are highly regarded rise. So when I see
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert going in the top five and most drafts,
Speaker 1: makes me think it's definitely gonna be at least that high. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's they rarely fall and it has happened, but it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. It doesn't happen very often. Um Brandon is
Speaker 1: watching from d C and asked if there's any chance
Speaker 1: we make a run at Melvin Gordon. Yeah, I guess. Um, Again,
Speaker 1: I would think Melvin Gordon would would command a pretty
Speaker 1: big salary, a pretty big contract for running back, and
Speaker 1: he's had some good years in San Diego. But I
Speaker 1: don't even even thinking it necessarily has the track record
Speaker 1: of say Todd Gurley when Ted Gurley got his big
Speaker 1: new deal, and obviously that one hasn't really worked out
Speaker 1: that well. Um, if we were to sign a clearly
Speaker 1: talented running back like Melvin Gordon, I would be excited
Speaker 1: about it. I'm sure a lot of people would be too,
Speaker 1: But I just still continue to question the wisdom of
Speaker 1: big contracts for running backs because it doesn't seem like
Speaker 1: they work out as often as they should. Um Matt
Speaker 1: asked after Shack, who is the highest priority to resign
Speaker 1: on defense? Is it my decision or what the team
Speaker 1: actually thinks. Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't think
Speaker 1: you know the answer necessary. I would think it comes
Speaker 1: down to um In Dominan Sue versus j PP. And
Speaker 1: it might be hard if you're also getting shocked to
Speaker 1: keep all three. If you're asking me, since you're already
Speaker 1: going to be investing in the edge rusher in Shack
Speaker 1: and you could maybe even draft one in the draft
Speaker 1: in Dominican, Sue would be the one I'd go after next.
Speaker 1: Um it's just the way he solidified that front, how
Speaker 1: well he worked with Vida Va and Will Gooleston, how
Speaker 1: great our run defense was, how often he commanded double teams.
Speaker 1: That's not just me saying that, there's stats out there
Speaker 1: of how often he was double teamed, which helps everybody
Speaker 1: else get favorable matchups and really helped the pass rush
Speaker 1: we we ended up with. Yeah, I know, he only
Speaker 1: had what two and a sacks something like that, I think,
Speaker 1: but the team ended up with forty seven sacks, which
Speaker 1: is the second most we've ever had in a season.
Speaker 1: So I think he was a big part of that,
Speaker 1: even though it doesn't doesn't show up in the stat line,
Speaker 1: and he was obviously one of the main reasons we
Speaker 1: had the run defense in the league and the best
Speaker 1: run defense statistically that the Bucks have ever had. I
Speaker 1: would like to keep as much of that intact as possible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes complete sense. Um and Daniel asked, what are
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Leonard Williams. What kind of salary would
Speaker 1: he command? Versus and Dominican sue, well, is he, uh,
Speaker 1: free agent? I believe so? Yeah, Okay, oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: I was reading that somebody projecting that the the Giants
Speaker 1: might franchise tag him because they made a pretty aggressive
Speaker 1: trade to get him, and even though he didn't necessarily
Speaker 1: light up the world for them. Um, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: trade those assets, you'd like to keep him around. Probably, Uh,
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams. I'm gonna have to be honest here and
Speaker 1: say I don't really know his top strength. I don't
Speaker 1: is he a great run stopper? I mean, they know
Speaker 1: he's a big I know he's like the third guy
Speaker 1: drafted overall, and I'm sure he's supposed to be an
Speaker 1: all around stud in the middle there. I don't think
Speaker 1: his career has been as impactful as his two teams
Speaker 1: have been hoping it would be, right as like the
Speaker 1: third overall pick, I think, so I'd stick with in
Speaker 1: Dominicansu and I think he'll probably be cheaper because he's
Speaker 1: farther along in his career right, so he's probably gonna
Speaker 1: get shorter deals as he's been. He played the last
Speaker 1: two years on one year deals. Yeah, that makes a
Speaker 1: lot of sense. All right, Well, that's gonna do it
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