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Speaker 2: Live Nation. Cam Newton has he has a take on

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Speaker 2: on men and women being friends and having platonic friendships

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Speaker 2: meaning no shenanigans. He of course doesn't understand. He thinks

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Speaker 2: the words something else. I believe he believe think it's playtonic.

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Speaker 1: I believe he's now.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna play this clip. I'm gonna cross my fingers.

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Speaker 2: I listened to it once, but I but here he

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Speaker 2: is on a podcast. This is Cam Newton talking about

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Speaker 2: how it is impossible to have platonic friendships with women

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Speaker 2: without wanting more.

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Speaker 1: Impossible.

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Speaker 3: He says, you have any platonic relationships with your life

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Speaker 3: now with the woman.

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Speaker 1: No, that is that about choice.

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Speaker 2: It's very hard for me to take him seriously, by

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Speaker 2: the way, because he's wearing like a fedora thing like

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Speaker 2: and as you know, I mean, I'm thinking about I

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Speaker 2: want to have like that kind of but I'm not

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Speaker 2: like not like that one.

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Speaker 1: No, and it has buttons on it.

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Speaker 2: And then he's like he's wearing a top pad, and

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Speaker 2: then he's wearing like a shirt and tie and then

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Speaker 2: like a flank. I know it's very hard for me

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Speaker 2: to take him seriously right now. But anyway, uh well, No,

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Speaker 2: it starts with this man in this outfit saying this thing.

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Speaker 3: I'm not about to be around no woman platonically, No

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Speaker 3: platonically either.

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Speaker 1: You heard that man.

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Speaker 4: Listening.

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Speaker 3: I to unpack this can why because I'm not about

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Speaker 3: to play I don't type of game.

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Speaker 1: It is it self control, call it what you want

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Speaker 1: as you call it.

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Speaker 3: It may be self control if she find I'm not

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Speaker 3: about to have her around playing like I don't think

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Speaker 3: that she's attractive.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so I mean we can keep going.

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Speaker 2: I believe the key quote here was I don't have

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Speaker 2: women around me that I'm cool with that I don't

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Speaker 2: have plans on.

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Speaker 1: Stabbing.

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Speaker 5: Yes, stabbing was the word he used multiple times and

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Speaker 5: like shout out to.

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Speaker 6: Whoever who was interviewing him.

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Speaker 5: He was great because he kept trying like unpacked, be

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Speaker 5: like let's let's get further, and he was just like no.

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Speaker 6: Basically, he said he only has ugly women around him.

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Speaker 1: Like Friday podcast. I don't know that's Cam Newton's podcast.

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Speaker 6: Oh it's his own, okay, Oh all right.

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious though, eat five five five.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious, curious, he's curious, you.

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Speaker 1: Have top curious.

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Speaker 2: I just watched that video this morning of the pe

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Speaker 2: private equity guy. I thought there was one about Arizona.

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Speaker 2: Have you seen this guy I'm talking about that has

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Speaker 2: like the scrunched up face that pretends like he's in

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Speaker 2: private equity.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious. It's curious.

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Speaker 6: Is that the guy you sent me that these different

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Speaker 6: rich places.

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Speaker 2: And he like scrunches his face. He's like a filter

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Speaker 2: that makes his face like a I'm in private equity.

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Speaker 2: My role, My role is substantial because I know I

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Speaker 2: went to college with like a hundred of those. My role,

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Speaker 2: my dad's role substantial anyway, eight five five five nine

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Speaker 2: one oh three five do you Yeah, I mean, what

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Speaker 2: do you say, genuinely, do you think that a man

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Speaker 2: and a woman can be friends without anyone having any

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Speaker 2: kind of intention of anything else? Because I do think

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Speaker 2: that some form of attraction is a component of friendship.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't mean that I think that that there can't

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Speaker 2: be a genuine friendship, but I mean, I guess I

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Speaker 2: can see how at one point or another, someone in

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Speaker 2: the dynamic might feel some kind of way about the

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Speaker 2: other person, But I don't think that makes the friendship

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Speaker 2: any less legitimate or impossible.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you, I mean, if you develop those feelings or

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Speaker 5: think someone's attractive you just if you care about the

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Speaker 5: friendship or no, the other person isn't interested, you just

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Speaker 5: don't say anything, like you don't need to tell them.

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Speaker 1: Well, no, no, you don't. I mean you know, no, No, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean do you think that doesn't matter if you're married,

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter if you're in a relationship, Does it matter

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Speaker 2: if you're gay? I mean, okay, so you two were friends,

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Speaker 2: but you don't have any interest in her part, So I.

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Speaker 1: Mean that's normally No, that's very rude. Sorry, I'm I'm sorry. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, it's great.

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Speaker 2: His sexualities surpasses your insatiability.

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Speaker 1: You're your insistability. You know, anyone can appreciate a good jabo.

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Speaker 5: No, but I can't be friends with him. It's hard

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Speaker 5: for me, right, it's just my I see, you know

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Speaker 5: what I put out there? You know, no, I think,

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Speaker 5: I think that it is possible, but I I have

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Speaker 5: been bummed out in the past when like guys have

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Speaker 5: tried something or made it known because I'm like, well,

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Speaker 5: there it goes the friendship.

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Speaker 2: You know, you think what you're roughly quite over your what.

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Speaker 7: I have plenty of male friends, you know, I love,

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Speaker 7: I love y'all, but not like that, so I do

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Speaker 7: every you know, I don't even look at my male

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Speaker 7: friends like in a sexual or like a lot of y'allice.

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Speaker 7: God bless the women in you.

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Speaker 8: We know too much, you know, like what you're looking

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Speaker 8: at me for because you're my male friend, so there

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Speaker 8: are there are no women dealing with me right now correctly,

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Speaker 8: so you must not be talking about me.

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Speaker 1: Impossible.

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Speaker 8: I don't know how you guys do.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I know a lot about you

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Speaker 1: guys too, right, So.

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Speaker 6: You know, are you in love?

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Speaker 4: God?

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Speaker 2: Bless God, Bless the men at home, Alex, How you doing, Alex?

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Speaker 2: Do you think that men and women can be friends?

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Speaker 2: Despite what Cam Newton is saying, well, who is the authority?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I I look to cam Newton to sort

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Speaker 2: of guide my life. So I'm going, but I'm.

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Speaker 9: Well, well, you know, to me, I have a lot

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Speaker 9: of friends that are are women, pretty ugly, whatever the

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Speaker 9: case I be. To me, He's like, you know, you.

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Speaker 1: Know he's got some ugly female friends. But but.

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Speaker 9: That's what you guys are saying. You know, if he

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Speaker 9: keeps ugly women around, I.

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Speaker 6: Mean those regardless.

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Speaker 9: You know, with women having women's up friend, it brings

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Speaker 9: a different perspective into your life. But having different perspective

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Speaker 9: and someone's life is what is important. And if he

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Speaker 9: does understand that having different perspectives in one life, then

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Speaker 9: that's on him. He doesn't know what he's missing out on.

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Speaker 2: So that's like, if I have if I have a

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Speaker 2: female for starting to rup to you, Alex, if I

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Speaker 2: have a female friend that I'm not attracted to, like

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Speaker 2: I can be friends with you because you're not that

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Speaker 2: good looking, but.

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Speaker 1: I mean you're not I would admit.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you're not attracted to someone, then I

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Speaker 2: suppose it's easier to reflect on the qualities that are

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Speaker 2: not physical, right, like this isn't this isn't just men. Well,

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Speaker 2: I think men tend to be we tend to be

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Speaker 2: the ones who focus on the visual, what we can see.

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Speaker 2: And then you know, I hate to generalize, but women

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Speaker 2: oftentimes lean into the more uh that, I don't even

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Speaker 2: want to say emotional, but maybe non physical qualities in

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Speaker 1: Dude, like a dude, we'll get with it.

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Speaker 2: We'll get with a hot girl that has like no

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Speaker 2: three words like it's from Mars and says like, okay,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, yeah, that's it.

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Speaker 6: You also get with ones you don't find at You'll get.

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Speaker 1: With them all that's true.

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Speaker 2: Got him all right, Alex? Thank you, have a good day.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you call him.

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Speaker 1: I love Alex.

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Speaker 5: Riend his friend and I'm like driving to work and him.

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Speaker 6: Alex, which one am I I'm callowing you right now?

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Speaker 4: Alex?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So if you're not, if you have ugly friends

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Speaker 2: of the opposite sex, I supposed to teach you to

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Speaker 2: be their friend?

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Speaker 4: Is what? Hey?

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Speaker 2: No stab it at all? Hey, Charlotte, Hi, Hi, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Can you be friends with just friends.

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Speaker 1: With a dude?

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Speaker 10: I think so yes, but you both have to be

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Speaker 10: in relationships, like outside of it, and if if you are,

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Speaker 10: then it's so much easier to be friends. Even if

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Speaker 10: you go into a friendship and you haven't already met

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Speaker 10: this guy and you're already in a relationship, entering it

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Speaker 10: into as a friendship, it becomes so much easier. There's

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Speaker 10: no flirting from the very beginning. I have lots of

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Speaker 10: guy friends and I have It's never been any issues

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Speaker 2: But as it pertains to a new friendship, like just

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Speaker 2: because you have a boyfriend doesn't mean that the other

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Speaker 2: person won't have attraction to you. Like that doesn't disqualify.

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Speaker 2: It's not like as soon as I get into a relationship,

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Speaker 2: no one finds me attractive anymore. So I guess I

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Speaker 2: don't know that. I think that's like an actual barrier

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Speaker 2: for maybe for you, but not for everybody.

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Speaker 10: But you set I think I think you set the boundaries,

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Speaker 10: so like if you just realize, I think if they

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Speaker 10: are clear that you're in a relationship and they are

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Speaker 10: still acting in certain ways, then that's where you can

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Speaker 10: decide not to be friends with them. But I think

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Speaker 10: you set those boundaries and if it's clear to them

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Speaker 10: and they won't make any move on you, then I

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Speaker 10: think you can be friends with them. And if they

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Speaker 10: secretly have feelings for you, like that's I guess their problem.

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Speaker 10: And once you're single, then I guess they can go

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Speaker 10: for you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, Thank you, Charlotte, Thank you. I have

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Speaker 1: a good day.

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Speaker 2: No, Like, I've hit people in my life before who

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Speaker 2: like meet I met through other people, maybe we met

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Speaker 2: on the dating app, and then like we meet and

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Speaker 2: it's like, you're cool.

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Speaker 1: I like you.

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's a romantic vibe here, Like I'm

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Speaker 2: not I'm not into it like that, which is you know,

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Speaker 2: it happens the other way around too. I've gone out

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Speaker 2: with people who aren't into it with me whatever. But

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Speaker 2: then I then I'm like, well, I don't not want

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Speaker 2: you in my life, but I'm not necessarily interested in

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Speaker 2: pursuing this romantically. And I I've had to go the

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Speaker 2: other way too for me, where it's like, oh, if

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Speaker 2: you don't want me like that, then I'm out completely.

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Speaker 2: Like people go into something with the expectation that this

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Speaker 2: is what they want. They wanted to be romantic, they

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Speaker 2: want it to be you know whatever sexual, they want

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Speaker 1: Hey Gil, what's up? Gil? Hey Gil?

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Speaker 2: You got to turn your radio down. We're doing a

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Speaker 1: We Honestly, that's more likely.

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Speaker 2: But but Gil, can you be friends with a woman

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Speaker 1: Because Cam Newton says no, and I you know.

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Speaker 9: I think it's absolutely possible.

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Speaker 12: But to make a point here, if you've ever been

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Speaker 2: You're friends and then you do it, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you're I don't know if you're just friends anymore.

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Speaker 12: I suppose then your benefit friends.

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Speaker 2: You've crossed into a different territory and maybe you can

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Speaker 1: But like I don't know, I should be able.

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Speaker 5: To get drunk with you, and you're not trying well,

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Speaker 5: I don't.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if a girl initiates, I think the guy's going

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Speaker 1: The rooftops, I hear you, thank you have a good

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Speaker 2: I think I think men get a bad they get

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Speaker 1: Like I think we should just keep it here.

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Speaker 2: And it's and and I've been on both sides of this,

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Speaker 2: And so I'm at a point in my life where

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Speaker 5: So I don't know, after a couple of Tito's and

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Speaker 6: I just think her lingerie.

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Speaker 2: I think where it gets complicated, it's like that there's

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Speaker 2: never went into this thinking that would happen. Now that's

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Speaker 2: not where That's not where Cam's coming from. Cam's coming from.

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Speaker 2: He can't keep it in his pants.

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Speaker 1: At all, which is which we know for a fact.

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Speaker 1: It's true. Actually he can't keep it in his pants.

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Speaker 2: A man has many children, does he have the same person?

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Speaker 2: It didn't matter, shout out to Cam Newton. You do you,

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Speaker 2: you do what you gotta do, Cam Newton. But I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying like he's coming at it from a place

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Speaker 2: I can see it. You know, over time there's always

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Speaker 5: Remember I told you guys, like on New Year's a

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Speaker 6: I was like, oh, what are we doing? I mean,

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Speaker 5: Yes, I don't want to be around you, just I

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Speaker 5: I'm like dodging you.

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Speaker 1: That's like that's a big swim.

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Speaker 2: Shot, right, And either that's gonna go great where you're

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Speaker 5: I was giving no, Like I burp in front of

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Speaker 2: The fact that you had just farted before you really

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Speaker 13: Hey, good morning, Lucy.

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Speaker 2: Let's solve your problem now, just every week, every day,

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Speaker 2: just solving everybody's life problems. You know, just come to

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Speaker 2: This is about your husband, and your husband is not

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Speaker 14: It's correct.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I love my husband, but he is not sticking

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Speaker 2: So you go to him and you say like, hey,

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Speaker 13: He'll just say like you know, oh, like that's just

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Speaker 1: He's afraid of his mom. He's afraid of his Mommy.

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Speaker 2: I dated one of these, this guy, all right, So

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Speaker 2: hey brosty, like why you know, what's up with it?

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Speaker 2: Like do you have do you ever like clap back

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Speaker 4: The way.

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Speaker 13: How to keep the peace with her? I know how

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Speaker 13: she is, and I feel like that's his job to

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Speaker 13: do that. Like I feel like it's his mom, And

443
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Speaker 13: if it were my mom, I would, you know, totally

444
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Speaker 13: say something to my mom to defend him.

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Speaker 1: Has it been this way forever? Has she always treated

446
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Speaker 1: you this way?

447
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Speaker 13: Yes, but it's definitely gotten worse since we had kids,

448
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Speaker 13: because now she's you know, around more and constantly commenting

449
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Speaker 13: on my parenting and like, you know, she'll even say

450
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Speaker 13: stuff about what the kids have on and I'm like,

451
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Speaker 13: come on, lady, like this is ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 2: You guess Paulina could comment on this having in laws,

454
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Speaker 2: but I know your in laws are really involved and

455
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Speaker 2: supportive and helpful. But eight five five five three five

456
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Speaker 2: I'd love to know from the perspective of anyone who's

457
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Speaker 2: been through something like this, Like how do you deal

458
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Speaker 2: with your mother in law or father in law whomever

459
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Speaker 2: on the other side of the family when they're saying

460
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Speaker 2: things to you. I mean, you got to expect the

461
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Speaker 2: person whose family it is to get involved, right because

462
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Speaker 2: that unless, of course he agrees with her, which is

463
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Speaker 2: a whole different issue altogether, Like which is a conversation

464
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Speaker 2: that you might need to have, which like, wait a minute, so,

465
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Speaker 2: like you won't go to her, is that because you

466
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Speaker 2: think she's right? I mean, I guess we got to

467
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Speaker 2: get to the bottom of why he won't stand up

468
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Speaker 2: for you first and foremost.

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Speaker 13: I think, right, yeah, I mean you just feel like

470
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Speaker 13: we should just respective mom, and like she won't be

471
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Speaker 13: around forever, and like, you know, their backhanded comments, and

472
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Speaker 13: it's not a big deal.

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Speaker 1: Waiting for her to die. It's not a solution.

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Speaker 15: So that's not that's not an open she won't be roight,

475
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Speaker 15: she only got a couple decades left to live. I

476
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Speaker 15: guess that's just not do what I You shouldn't have

477
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Speaker 15: to put up with that, I mean, And also if

478
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Speaker 15: it's happening in your house and your kids and your life,

479
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Speaker 15: I mean, I definitely think there needs to be some

480
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Speaker 15: form of moderation. He needs to go to her and

481
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Speaker 15: figure out where she's coming from, what her viewpoint is

482
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Speaker 15: on your behalf. I mean, I don't think he has

483
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Speaker 15: he doesn't have to condemn his mother, but I definitely

484
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Speaker 15: think he has an obligation to stand up for you. You're

485
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Speaker 15: you're the mother of his kids. You're his wife, and

486
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Speaker 15: I think that puts you first in a lot of ways,

487
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Speaker 15: which I know can be hard with overbearing moms and

488
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Speaker 15: overprotective and mom's son relationships that are close. But now

489
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Speaker 15: you're the primary lady in his life, right.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean that's that's the problem, and so it's

491
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Speaker 13: causing huge fights in our marriage. And like, I don't

492
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Speaker 13: know how to navigate this, and I'm like, I can't

493
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Speaker 13: put up with this much longer. You're life, Like I

494
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Speaker 13: can't wait around for his mom to die, like this

495
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Speaker 13: has been saying.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let me take some phone calls on this. Lucy.

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Speaker 1: I wish you the best. Thank you for sharing and

498
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Speaker 1: good luck.

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Speaker 13: Thank you so much. I appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, thank you eight five five five three five Sarah, Hi,

501
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Speaker 2: good morning, good morning, Sarah. So stayir go, you know,

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Speaker 2: we call it stairgo Like, I don't know if she's

503
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Speaker 2: gonna divorce guy, but she might. I mean, it sounds

504
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Speaker 2: like she's kind of at her wits end with his

505
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Speaker 2: mother in law who's got some to say about everything.

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Speaker 16: Uh huh. I agree. I think she should go. I mean,

507
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Speaker 16: she married him, she married into the family, and she's

508
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Speaker 16: scared of a mom.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like, now, are you married? I am not married, Okay,

510
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Speaker 1: I was just curious.

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Speaker 16: I have a boyfriend, though, and I love his family,

512
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Speaker 16: and I haven't seen any problem.

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Speaker 2: So would your expectation be that he solves the problem, Like,

514
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Speaker 2: if there's an issue that he it's if it's his family,

515
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Speaker 2: he needs to manage that. Or is it ever something

516
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Speaker 2: where you can get involved and say something, because I

517
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Speaker 2: feel like it's only going to further alienate you if

518
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Speaker 2: you did.

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Speaker 1: But maybe.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean I would address a problem to him,

521
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Speaker 16: but I think he should ultimately solve it. If I

522
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Speaker 16: wanted to try counseling, I hope you would, you know,

523
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Speaker 16: stand by my side and everything like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, thank you, Sarah, Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 16: Have a good day, of course, love you guys.

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Speaker 1: I love you too, got your cause it erg how

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Speaker 1: you say it? Yeah, guys listeners what uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we only have thirteen and so thanks for reminding us.

529
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Speaker 2: I'm always reminded when people are like, I'm playing the

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Speaker 2: Show by Shelley game for the seventy fourth time. I'm like, oh, okay, cool,

531
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Speaker 2: we really truly only have thirteen listeners.

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Speaker 1: It's great. What do you do in this situation?

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Speaker 2: Lucy's upset because her husband's mom is very critical of

534
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Speaker 2: her and her parenting, and he doesn't want to get involved.

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Speaker 2: He just sort of blows it off, like, well, that's

536
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Speaker 2: as she is. I can't control that. What do you think?

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Speaker 11: Well, so she's given him the opportunity to fix it,

538
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Speaker 11: and it sounds like she's just asked that mind. So

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Speaker 11: she's got a lot of options. In my opinion, I mean,

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Speaker 11: there's you have to advocate for oneself, you know what

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Speaker 11: I'm saying. And you can be assertive without being aggressive.

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Speaker 11: And if you can't be assertive, then I mean you're

543
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Speaker 11: going to be passive aggressive, aggressive, aggressive, but try as

544
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Speaker 11: heard of.

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Speaker 14: I know, for me, when I have a family members that.

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Speaker 11: Say like just crazy stuff to me, my first gut response,

547
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Speaker 11: and I've had to train myself is I just look

548
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Speaker 11: at some square in the eye and I say, that's crazy, right,

549
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Speaker 11: that is wild.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe you shut Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But my problem, my issue is if he's not, if

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Speaker 2: you don't, if you know he didn't have your back,

553
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Speaker 2: then you're finding a battle with his family and he's

554
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Speaker 2: you know, he's not going to support you. So it's like,

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Speaker 2: I guess it would be one thing if he's like, yeah,

556
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Speaker 2: I totally agree, like let's go together and have a

557
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Speaker 2: conversation about this, and then you knew that he had

558
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Speaker 2: your back, But like, if you're going to be combative

559
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Speaker 2: with his mom and he's going to justify her behavior,

560
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Speaker 2: then I don't think I wouldn't feel very confident, you

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Speaker 2: know that that anyone's supporting me.

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Speaker 11: So I get that, and in that case, aggression is

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Speaker 11: off the table. But assertiveness can.

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Speaker 6: Be calm and kind and non combative.

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Speaker 11: Okay, the word no can be a complete sentence, you know.

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Speaker 11: So if she just looks at her and says no

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Speaker 11: and walks away like there's no argument, what is she

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Speaker 11: going to say If she comes back and gets aggressive

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Speaker 11: the mother in law, then Lucy can say no, but

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Speaker 11: where's the husband?

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Speaker 6: While they're like fist fighting, you know, like.

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Speaker 11: Well that's the thing, and her husband's not going to

573
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Speaker 11: stand up to his mom clearing. He's proven that, so

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Speaker 11: that leaves the ball in Lucy's court. Lucy can either

575
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Speaker 11: choose to be treated poorly in a toxic, unhealthy relationship

576
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Speaker 11: with a bow dynamic, or she can take back her powers.

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Speaker 1: And you can do that.

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Speaker 11: By just standing still and standing up. You don't have

579
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Speaker 11: to swing, you know.

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Speaker 2: All right now I'm now virg saying no swinging. Okay,

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Speaker 2: thank you, have a good day. I'm glad you called.

582
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Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 6: I'm an ultimatum.

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Speaker 7: Either you are going to no either you are going

585
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Speaker 7: to man up and support your wife and your children,

586
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Speaker 7: or you're going to be with your mother because there's

587
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Speaker 7: no way she can win this.

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Speaker 1: Like, I'm your wife, I kind of agree with you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you either support me or you don't.

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Speaker 2: I hate an ultimatum, but it's like yeah, yeah, I

591
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Speaker 2: guess what. Sorry, but I'm I'm at another level now.

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Speaker 2: You know, we made kids together, we're together for life.

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Speaker 5: Like I'm intaking on her hair color, Like that's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Jose, Jose, where you lived, who was criticizing whom?

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Speaker 17: If you live this, So my mother got my wife

596
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Speaker 17: or so many years. I think with my wife for

597
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Speaker 17: twenty years. We have two boys now there are fifteen

598
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Speaker 17: and nineteen. But my mother would always be very rude

599
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Speaker 17: to my wife. So I would always tell my wife, listen,

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Speaker 17: I will find a way to tell her something. And

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Speaker 17: my wife, she she literally put up with a lot

602
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Speaker 17: of craft from her, and she was even at some

603
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Speaker 17: point offered all the money for her to walk away

604
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Speaker 17: from the relationship just as long as she was not

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Speaker 17: with me.

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Speaker 1: Wow, So it was.

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Speaker 9: It was pretty drastic.

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Speaker 17: So what I can tell her is, listen, you need

609
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Speaker 17: to talk to your partner, and you have to give

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Speaker 17: them two choices, because that's exactly what I was given. One.

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Speaker 17: She needs to respect the fact that you don't want

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Speaker 17: to be part of his mother's life and she doesn't

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Speaker 17: need you have to be around for him to go

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Speaker 17: see his mother. So he wants to go see his mother,

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Speaker 17: he goes along. He needs to at least respect that,

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Speaker 17: and he does not agree with that, then he'd want

617
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Speaker 17: to have to tell his mother the reason why you

618
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Speaker 17: don't want to be there, and she's going to have

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Speaker 17: to put us up to his mother.

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Speaker 1: How did you resolve it. Jose, are you still married

621
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Speaker 1: or to your wife leave?

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Speaker 17: We are soo manried. My wife's still with me, and

623
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Speaker 17: we just don't see my mother anymore.

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Speaker 9: It's being na if I see.

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Speaker 17: My mother once a Year's.

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Speaker 2: Sad because now the kids are are and who knows,

627
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Speaker 2: maybe that's a healthy thing if they're watching their mom

628
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Speaker 2: be mistreated. But that's very sad that there can't be

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Speaker 2: any kind of middle ground. And then your kids don't

630
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Speaker 2: get to see their grandmother because she can't play nice.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's a shame.

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Speaker 17: Yeah, it is a shame. But to be honest with you,

633
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Speaker 17: now that my kids are older and they understand and

634
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Speaker 17: they see how she is a personally that never going

635
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Speaker 17: to change. Yeah, yeah, person is going to have to

636
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Speaker 17: realize that he never want to change. And it's about

637
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Speaker 17: how much do you love your partner to one give

638
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Speaker 17: him the chance to put up with it and try

639
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Speaker 17: to take action with his mother, or two give him

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Speaker 17: the chance to let you be a part Yeah, make

641
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Speaker 17: you give you the chance not to be part of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you, Jose, I'm glad you called. Thanks for

643
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Speaker 2: Sharon Man. You did do the right thing. Have a

644
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Speaker 2: good day.

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Speaker 17: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I would love to hear from a perspective of a

647
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Speaker 2: mother in this, because I'm sure it's hard, especially moms

648
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Speaker 2: and sons. I'm sure it's hard to watch another woman

649
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,960
Speaker 2: sort of not replace you, but sort of take that

650
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Speaker 2: primary role that you're used to having. But like I

651
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Speaker 2: put this on the mother solely, Like the mom has

652
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Speaker 2: got to accept the change. That's what I'm thinking she has,

653
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Speaker 2: you know, and and I don't know that this person

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Speaker 2: has the self awareness to understand that, but like she's

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Speaker 2: alienating herself, Like this is a losing proposition.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: The problem is if the son doesn't see it that way,

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Speaker 2: then I don't know is his wife ever going to

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Speaker 2: be the priority? I mean literally, his response is waiting

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Speaker 2: for her to right. Like that's not that's not a

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Speaker 2: real response when when you have a wife and children.

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Speaker 1: Maddie, Good morning, Maddie. Okay, Hi, what did you want

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Speaker 1: to say about this day? Or go just recap your quickly.

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Speaker 2: Lucy's upset because her mother in law is very critical

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Speaker 2: of her and her husband is not really willing to

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Speaker 2: get involved in this.

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Speaker 14: I married this guy, my kids with this guy, and

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Speaker 14: we got divorced basically because the mother in law and

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Speaker 14: let me tell you that mother in law right now

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Speaker 14: is wearing that she is filtering some of what she

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Speaker 14: says and does believe me. And then when you get divorced,

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Speaker 14: it becomes way worse because she drops up filter and

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Speaker 14: you still have to put up with him because of

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Speaker 14: the kids.

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Speaker 1: Oh so now the gloves are off.

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Speaker 2: Like if you think it's bad now, then wait till

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Speaker 2: you leave her son and then it's But I guess

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Speaker 2: your exposure to her is limited.

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Speaker 1: Does that mean that you don't have to see him?

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Speaker 14: You would think so, and it was limited some, but

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Speaker 14: you still have to deal with them, and it's way worse.

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Speaker 14: Find a way to make it work. You need to

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Speaker 14: stand up for yourself now, girl, sets the boundaries now,

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Speaker 14: because it's lose lose lose for everyone. If you get

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Speaker 14: a divorce, it does not make it better.

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Speaker 2: That's too bad, Maddie, Thanks for calling, Thanks for listening.

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Speaker 2: Have a great day. Yeah, this is why you got

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Speaker 2: to do a full FBI forensic CIA background on everybody

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Speaker 2: in the family you're about to enter into, because you're

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Speaker 2: not just marrying one. You're not just marrying the guy

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Speaker 2: or the girl. Now we're now I'm marrying all these psychos. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so I need to know exactly who I am dealing with.

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Speaker 2: I need we need to sit down li detective tests.

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Speaker 1: I need.

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Speaker 2: I need you a room that's patted with the one

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Speaker 2: light bulb hanging down from the ceiling and the table like,

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Speaker 2: I need to understand full psychological background because apparently you

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Speaker 2: can't escape it once once you're in. If you have

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Speaker 2: kids and you can't, you're never getting out of it.

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Speaker 2: We gotta know a we gotta know exactly who we're

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Speaker 2: working with.

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Speaker 1: Kiki