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Speaker 1: At a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields.

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Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

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Speaker 1: player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp. We're not even

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Speaker 1: in the stragedyre of normalcy. Welcome to a Thursday edition

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Speaker 1: of One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker coming Out. It's from

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Speaker 1: noon till three. We've got an absolutely fantastic show lined

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Speaker 1: up for you. Today, the Bills are having a little

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Speaker 1: real live scrimmage over in the stadium. I got a

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Speaker 1: on the air. We also have a fantastic guest host today,

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Speaker 1: Lejay Doozable, former Buffalo Bill's defensive lineman. Bounced around the league,

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Speaker 1: had a nice career. Got to see a lot of

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Speaker 1: these travels in his spare time now too. He did

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Speaker 1: it as a player like I did. He played a

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Speaker 1: couple of different teams. And now you're training guys down

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Speaker 1: in four Lauderdale. You've got a podcast that you do.

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Speaker 1: You're a busy guy. I'm glad you carved out a

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Speaker 1: couple of hours you come on with us. How's it going, man,

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Speaker 1: It's going great, Steve, and I'm glad to be back

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Speaker 1: with Bill's Mafia talking football with you, Steve. I think

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Speaker 1: the last time I actually got to see you was

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen at the Super Bowl and we sat down

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Speaker 1: It's good to be back on here with Bill's Mafia.

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Speaker 1: Great to have you on. And I know too that

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Speaker 1: this we've all experienced. We had a chance to talk

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Speaker 1: and I mean, you've been down in Florida kind of

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Speaker 1: or least off the television airwaves for five months and

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Speaker 1: one day. We've been back on the air radio and

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Speaker 1: simulcasting TV with MSG for I don't know, three weeks

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Speaker 1: or so since, so, yeah, about two weeks, two four

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Speaker 1: weeks since the tenth of August. And it's what a

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Speaker 1: strange world we're living in. And then with all the

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Speaker 1: things that have happened with George Floyd and now with Blake,

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Speaker 1: with unbelievable things that had happened in our country. And

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Speaker 1: I think for the first time, we're seeing pro athletes

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Speaker 1: to raise everybody's consciousness about a huge problem in our country,

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Speaker 1: something that's been going on for a long time. As

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Speaker 1: black guys who enlightened me that this goes on in

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Speaker 1: our country, and it goes on. It's been going on

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Speaker 1: for four hundred years. And now we're at a place

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Speaker 1: towards changing things for the better. Yes, Steven and I

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Speaker 1: couldn't be more proud of what the NBA and teams

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Speaker 1: in the since you know, Jacob Blake was shot in

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Speaker 1: the back seven times. Look at the NBA. They decided

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Speaker 1: to boycott playoff games yesterday. The Bucks, the Milwaukee Bucks,

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Speaker 1: they will continue to play. But I think it's good

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Speaker 1: jobull just play football, don't mix sports with political views.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you have to

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Speaker 1: understand we as people are human beings, and first we're

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Speaker 1: When you hear it, well he must have been resisting,

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Speaker 1: scared to death for their kids, exactly, Steve, and I

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Speaker 1: what Robert Ory had to say last year on Sports Spectrum.

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's been a problem in our society.

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Speaker 1: So many people are saying, well, why why aren't they

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Speaker 1: just so he can feel what it's like to get hit.

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Speaker 1: So when they get ready for you know, Week one

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Speaker 1: horror linebacker. And I mean, I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: would take it that far. You don't know, you don't

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Speaker 1: want your quarterback really getting hit at all. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know what's gonna happen, that's football. But I don't

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Speaker 1: know if i'd risk him, you know, getting hit in practice,

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Speaker 1: but maybe maybe rushed up against, maybe you know, thudded

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Speaker 1: he can react a lot faster after he gets hit

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Speaker 1: in the game. And it's not like whoa, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: take me two or three players to get ready because

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Speaker 1: I didn't know what that felt like. It's been what

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Speaker 1: like seven eight months? Is I can't hit like that? Yes? True?

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Speaker 1: See it. More and more coaches are doing these scrimmages

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Speaker 1: once a week to prepare their guys to get ready.

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Speaker 1: That way, they're not mulling into the season. They hit

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Speaker 1: the ground running week one. Yeah, and it is. It's

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Speaker 1: a delicate balance. How do you do you know, how

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Speaker 1: do you make it happen because you don't care? You know,

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Speaker 1: coaches and players too, nobody would care. Let's go live,

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Speaker 1: live live, if there was one hundred percent certainty, nobody's

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Speaker 1: gonna get hurt. I mean, that's what you signed up for.

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Speaker 1: It's a fun to play when you can't get hurt.

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Speaker 1: But then you can't guarantee and you can't guarantee that

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Speaker 1: in a walk through, right so right, So it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a role. They have gotten hurt in the past

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Speaker 1: faster than the others. So there's no guaranteeing. And it's football.

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Speaker 1: You know this, Steve, when playing in as many years

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Speaker 1: as you do, and I know it from its playing

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Speaker 1: as many years as I do. Football is the only

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Speaker 1: sport it's one hundred percent injury rate. You're gonna get hurt,

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Speaker 1: and you cannot look into a crystal ball and be like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: if we go live to day, nobody's gonna get hurt,

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Speaker 1: so let's go full out. There's a delicate balance, and

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Speaker 1: More and more teams and not to put their starters

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Speaker 1: the season starts. Yeah, it's interesting too because for years

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Speaker 1: and years and years, everybody's like what preseason stinks. They

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Speaker 1: It's you know, that's no games, aren't competitive, that starters

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Speaker 1: Nobody really likes it too much, right, So yeah, it'll

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Speaker 1: be I'm sure it's gonna transform what the preseason looks

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Speaker 1: like going forward for the NFL. This force feeding them

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Speaker 1: don't think I would have made it if there wasn't

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Speaker 1: But I don't know even if the second year, because

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Speaker 1: that's been talked about across the league. And I talked

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Speaker 1: was saying that, you know, you look at guys like

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Speaker 1: of the time, gms and coaches kind of know out

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Speaker 1: of the fifty three, they kind of know like forty

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Speaker 1: And I looked at it and I was like, dang,

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Speaker 1: maybe you're right, But to me, it just hurts because

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Speaker 1: you know, having to fight and scratch and clawe every

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Speaker 1: year to make the roster, probably my first three years.

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Speaker 1: That I feel for guys that come in and undrafted

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Speaker 1: or late draft round picks because they really don't have

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Speaker 1: the active roster. That's right. We're with Lache Doozable show.

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Speaker 1: He played ten seasons the National Football League. Twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: he was here with Buffalo, played under Rex and we've

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Speaker 1: and I gotta tip my hat to you. You gotta

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Speaker 1: give it people a chance that You've got a podcast

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Speaker 1: called Anything Is Doozable, and so I give us a

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Speaker 1: synopsis about, you know, the philosophy behind it. I know

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Speaker 1: everybody the podcaster. It's a great venue for guys to

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Speaker 1: have a lot of really good conversations. What's the idea

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Speaker 1: or do you have a general theme behind Anything Is Doozable? Yes, Steve,

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Speaker 1: so I I actually have two podcasts, Anything is Dousable,

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Speaker 1: one is mainly just on YouTube. The other podcast is

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Speaker 1: Anything's Dousable that's on all the platforms, Apple, Spotify, and YouTube.

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Speaker 1: And the premise behind it is I wanted to use

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Speaker 1: talked to to Lawrence Times, he was a kicker for

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Speaker 1: you heard a story like that, a professional athlete moving

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Speaker 1: up to be VP talked to Carlos Dunlap, who's done

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Speaker 1: guy talked to was Stefan Gilmour, who grew up in

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Speaker 1: work and a lot of bill fans done because he

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Speaker 1: Now that he's in Massachusetts. I also talked to Eric

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Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers. He does a lot of stuff

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Speaker 1: in Sacramento with his foundation. So I really wanted to

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Speaker 1: pub players and all the positive stuff they're doing in

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Speaker 1: the communities, because it seems like the only time they

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Speaker 1: talk about players is in the negative light, and for

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Speaker 1: everybody to know this, it's actually more players doing positive

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Speaker 1: So I really wanted to use my platform to get

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Speaker 1: something that needs to be sad and really highlighted and

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Speaker 1: give them a gold star because I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: talked about enough. Legit Douzable one Bills Live. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: take a break, but once we do, we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: back to our Twitter poll. We got a question for you,

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Speaker 1: our listeners, and it's interesting because I was out there

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Speaker 1: a little bit watching the Bills do their practice today

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Speaker 1: in the stadium and came up with this question. Which

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Speaker 1: Bill's defensive position group are gonna have the bigger impact

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. The defensive backs are the defensive line.

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Speaker 1: We took the linebackers out of the equation, and with

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Speaker 1: year ago and the new additions along with a Japanes

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Speaker 1: Phillips and Jerry Hughes, of course, who's gonna make the

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Speaker 1: bigger impact? The Bills secondary has been an engine that

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Speaker 1: has driven this defense to really great heights, with Tredavious

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Speaker 1: White at cornerback being an All Pro and then the

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Speaker 1: two safeties that are accepted as one of the great

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Speaker 1: safety duos in the league. Who's gonna make a bigger

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Speaker 1: impact this year for the Bills in twenty twenty the

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Speaker 1: defensive backs of the defensive line. We're leaving it up

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Speaker 1: to you, our listeners. You can call us at eight

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifties steep tasker Lejay Doozable back on

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Speaker 1: the show. We're gonna come back when I ask LeeJ

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Speaker 1: about his most memorable moments as a Buffalo ability He's

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Speaker 1: here for one year under Rex, very tumultuous times with

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Speaker 1: with the big Man, so we're gonna ask leg about that.

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Speaker 1: We also at the two o'clock hour have Chris Trepasso

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Speaker 1: of CBS Sports. He did some great rankings about the

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Speaker 1: NFL players, where they're gonna fall and what's who's gonna

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Speaker 1: be some surprise stories in the National Football League. All

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Speaker 1: that and more coming up on One Bill's Live. Stay

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Speaker 1: with us. This is One Bills Live presented by Kalida

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Speaker 1: Health on Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bills

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Speaker 1: Lives team caster with Leja Douzable on as co host.

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Speaker 1: Today we are talking about the Buffalo Bills. They had

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Speaker 1: a big scrimmage and we're asking you what defensive position

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Speaker 1: groups is gonna have the bigger impact in twenty twenties.

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Speaker 1: The defensive backs of the defensive line. We were laughing

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Speaker 1: in the break. My good friend Cornelius Bennett chimed in

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Speaker 1: on the tweet sheets said, Noah, it's gonna be the linebackers.

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Speaker 1: So biscuit making sure I didn't forget about him, and

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Speaker 1: I never or would. But this this defensive set, and

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Speaker 1: I there's high expectations for this Bill's franchise this season.

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Speaker 1: But um, and it really starts with the defense. This

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Speaker 1: is the defense that they have depended on over the

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Speaker 1: last three years. It got him to the playoffs two

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Speaker 1: years ago, it helped him salvage some self respect in

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen with a six win season, and then in

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Speaker 1: nineteen man o man that they were driving the ship.

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Speaker 1: It was a great, great defense last year, and they

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Speaker 1: expect to be even better this year. So who's gonna

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Speaker 1: who's gonna be the have the biggest impact, the defensive

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Speaker 1: backs or defensive line. J you have some thoughts about it.

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Speaker 1: You played d line here in Buffalo in twenty seventeen.

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Speaker 1: So what are your thoughts about that. I'm gonna have

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Speaker 1: to go with the defensive line surprise, right, And I

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people are probably looking at me sideways,

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Speaker 1: just because if you look at the secondary for the

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, it's been the main stay of their defense

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Speaker 1: for the last two or three years. Look at Tradevious White,

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Speaker 1: Both players have played at a Pro Bowl level. They

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Speaker 1: don't get the respect they really need. Point your lines

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Speaker 1: up the whole secondary. He's definitely like the captain back

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Speaker 1: there in the secondary. Very smart player, knows where he's

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Speaker 1: And then Michael High, the guy has great range, can

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Speaker 1: cover from sideline the sideline and also get back there

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Speaker 1: in the post. But if you look at what Brandon

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Speaker 1: Beam and Sean McDermott have done with this defensive line

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Speaker 1: going into this season. You have Jerry Hughes coming back.

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Speaker 1: He has surgery in the offseason. He's a guy that

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Speaker 1: usually gets around eight sex every year. If you look

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Speaker 1: at in the playoff game, he had three sex alone,

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Speaker 1: so it shows that he's getting older, but he's still explosive.

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Speaker 1: He can get to the quarterback. You add Mario Addison

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Speaker 1: from his Carolina days, and all he's done over the

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Speaker 1: last four years is get over nine sacks each years.

643
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time Buffalo had two bookends,

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Speaker 1: maybe going all the way back to twenty fourteen with

645
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Speaker 1: Mario Williams and Jerry Hughes. So that's something that Buffalo

646
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: has definitely been needing and they got it this year

647
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 1: and Hughes and Addison, and to back those guys up,

648
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: Trent Murphy, a guy that started the last two years,

649
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 1: has also had nine sacks in the season and definitely

650
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 1: had two sacks last year in the playoffs game, and

651
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 1: he shows that he can still play at a high level.

652
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: And then to top that off in the second round,

653
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Speaker 1: you got aj atpinesson a guy that can play up

654
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Speaker 1: and down the whole defensive line. A guy that probably

655
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: will start off it in and maybe kick down some

656
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: at the three technique on passing downs, and then you

657
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: look at the interior. Yes, they lost Starlettuey to opting out,

658
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: but then you look they go get Vernon Butler. A

659
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: guy that also is familiar with this game because he

660
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Speaker 1: was with Sean McDermott, a former first round pick in Carolina.

661
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Speaker 1: A guy that's gonna plug up those holes in the

662
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: middle of stuff the run game, but it's also very athletic.

663
00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: Had six sexx last year. And also Ed Oliver. They

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Speaker 1: say that players grow most from year one to year two,

665
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Speaker 1: and I'm looking for Ed Oliver to take that jump.

666
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: It took him high in the draft to be the

667
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Speaker 1: three technique of the future, penetrating creating havoc A look

668
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Speaker 1: for him to get six to eight sex this year.

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Speaker 1: And actually my favorite pickup with Quentin Jefferson, a guy

670
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: that a lot of people really don't know about. A

671
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: guy that played in Seattle from a winning culture and

672
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: can play up and down the defensive line and plays

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Speaker 1: with a lot of energy. He's definitely a lunch pale guy.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna bring his hard hats to work every day.

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Speaker 1: To me, the defensive line is the deepest group on

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Speaker 1: his team right now. Yeah, And I would have to

677
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Speaker 1: agree with you on all those picks because here's and

678
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Speaker 1: here's the reason why I would say in this Twitter pool,

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Speaker 1: why would kind of lean towards the defensive line anyway?

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Speaker 1: Because they will be I think, a more effective group

681
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Speaker 1: than they were a year ago. I think we can see,

682
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Speaker 1: we can plan on seeing this secondary just keep on

683
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Speaker 1: keeping on, whether it's whether it's Josh Norman at the

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Speaker 1: corner or if it's Levi Wallace at the corner opposite

685
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Speaker 1: Davious White. I think they're they're gonna keep on keeping on.

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Speaker 1: I think the impact is gonna come from the change

687
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Speaker 1: up front. Now, they were a top ten sack team.

688
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: They got forty four sacks. They were like a tied

689
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Speaker 1: for tenth in the NFL or maybe tenth to Loan

690
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: in the NFL and sacks last year. But those sacks

691
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: came after the offense kind of caught its win and

692
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,640
Speaker 1: they started stop turning it over about week six or seven.

693
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: Then the defense kind of picked it up. Well, if

694
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Speaker 1: this defense picks up where it left off, at the

695
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Speaker 1: end of last year. With the added editions that you

696
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Speaker 1: just mentioned, I think the secondary is gonna play a

697
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: lot better. They're gonna get more sacks, quicker, they're gonna

698
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: put more pressure faster on their opposing quarterbacks, and that

699
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: reek's havoc on the entire offense. So I think the

700
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Speaker 1: impact is going to be felt by the upgrade in

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Speaker 1: the defensive line. Even though the secondary may be as

702
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Speaker 1: good as there is in the National Football League, and

703
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: this defensive line may be good, maybe not great, but

704
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Speaker 1: great or better, I think the impact is going to

705
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: be in their improvement, the upfront improvement. I think they're

706
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: gonna be good, don't get me wrong, but I just

707
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: think the secondary is hard to beat. But I think

708
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Speaker 1: that's kind of it, Like you said, it's kind of

709
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Speaker 1: take take the secondary for granted. The impact comes in

710
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: the improvement up front. Yeah, definitely, And everybody knows they

711
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: work hand in hand together. Rush and coverage works together.

712
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Speaker 1: And I think it's not just the second numbers that

713
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: to go up. I think it's just the pressures and

714
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: the opportunistic for turnovers happens at a higher rate for

715
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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills defense. Just because your defensive line is

716
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Speaker 1: a lot deeper, so you have a lot more fresh

717
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: guys coming in trows towards the quarterback. So after four

718
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: or five plays, you know the offensive line because they

719
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: get a playoff, and you got another guy that was

720
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: a starter that's practically a backup now coming in fresh

721
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: and hungry and ready to get after the quarterback. And

722
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: you see that in the NFL. If you look at

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Speaker 1: all the teams that you know won Super Bowls, if

724
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Speaker 1: you even look at last year, if you can go

725
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: to San Francisco, a defensive line was deep. They had

726
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: guys rotating in and out getting after the quarterback constantly.

727
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Speaker 1: If you go back to the New York Giant days

728
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Speaker 1: when they won the Super Bowls, they had Uman Eurer

729
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 1: that justin Tuck, Jason, Pierre, and Paul You have to

730
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: have at least six good rushers on every team constantly

731
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Speaker 1: going after the quarterback, specially because the NFL has turned

732
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Speaker 1: into a pass league, so you got to be able

733
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Speaker 1: to get after the quarterback. There's a lot of high

734
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: expectations in Buffalo and Brandon Bean and McDermott did a

735
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: great job going to add those pieces to the defensive

736
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,319
Speaker 1: line to shure up that secondary doesn't have to cover

737
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: as long and they get be more opportunistic and get

738
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Speaker 1: more interceptions and takeaways for this Buffalo Bills team. I've

739
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 1: said it a ton that back in the day when

740
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Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks won their Super Bowl, I think in

741
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 1: two and twelve they won it against and I've said this,

742
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: that was the best Super Bowl defensive Super Bowl performance

743
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Speaker 1: of all time for this reason. Now, they are better

744
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: defenses perhaps that played in the Super like the eighty

745
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: five Bears. There've been defenses like the Pittsburgh Steelers Steel Curtain,

746
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Speaker 1: the old Dallas Cowboys Doomsday defense, and the Miami defense

747
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: back in the seventies. There's been some great defenses, but

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Speaker 1: I think the best performance in that game was by

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Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks in twenty twelve, because that is the

750
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Speaker 1: game in which they that defense was in the Super

751
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,320
Speaker 1: whatever Super Bowl you want to name, they were facing

752
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: the absolute best defense maybe of all time at that time.

753
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos were a juggernaut. They

754
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: were they were hanging points on everybody. They were unstoppable

755
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: that year. Throughout the year in Denver and the Seattle

756
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: Seahawks crushed them. That was because they got quick pressure

757
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: with four guys all night. Quick pressure with four guys,

758
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Speaker 1: And that's what you're talking about when that when the

759
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: defense kind of takes over, quick pressure changes everything for

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Speaker 1: an offense. Yeah, definitely, Steve, And that was actually a

761
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Speaker 1: historic offense you're talking about. I believe Peyton Manning might

762
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: has set the touchdown passing record that season, and that

763
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: that offense. I remember we actually played them that year.

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Speaker 1: It might have been the twenty thirteen season if I'm

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00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:46,840
Speaker 1: not correct, but they that offense was practically unstoppable. You know,

766
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Speaker 1: Julius Thomas, that had Eric Decker on the outside, that

767
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: had the Marrius Thomas on the outside and run the ball.

768
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 1: They can literally do everything they wanted him. Marino had

769
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: the backfield and he was an issue catching the ball

770
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: out of the backfield, running in between the tackles. And

771
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 1: then you look at that defense. Everybody talks about the

772
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 1: legion of Boom, but you just stated that front four

773
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: Cliff Avril, Michael Bennett, Red Bryant Camps guys got after

774
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: the quarterback every play. Literally, quarterbacks had maybe three seconds

775
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: and fourth and most to throw the ball. And that

776
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: helps a secondary like that night, they had a really

777
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 1: talented secondary, a secondary that most of them will probably

778
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,240
Speaker 1: be in the Hall of Fame. But that defensive line

779
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: was screaming to the quarterback. We're with Louisier Douzable. He's

780
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: co hosting one Bills Live today. I gotta ask you, you

781
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: you played here in twenty seventeen. What's your most memorable

782
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: moment here in Buffalo on the field when when you

783
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: were playing for the Bills. Oh, that's easy, Steve. It's

784
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: week four. I remember twenty sixteen, Week four going into

785
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: New England and we had just beat Arizona. We started

786
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,239
Speaker 1: off the season oz and two and everybody thought, you know,

787
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: we were done for and then we go and beat

788
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: Arizona at home. We go into New England. I think

789
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Speaker 1: this is the year that Brady was suspended for the

790
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: first four games, but New England was still undefeated. Jimmy Garoppolo,

791
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: I think I got hurt the week before set comes

792
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: in and we blank it New England Patriots. We shut

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00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: them out, first time they've been shut out in New England.

794
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 1: And I'm probably say I have a little bit of

795
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: history in Buffalo because we blanketed the mighty New England

796
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: Patriots and held them to a zero goose egg. There

797
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: you go. There's no better feeling in the going in

798
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: New England and winning because those fans are obnoxious and

799
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Speaker 1: you play, like I said, you played for ten years

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Speaker 1: in the National Football League. You have a chance to

801
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: play for a lot of great coaches. One of the

802
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: ones that's that's kind of on everybody's mind now. They

803
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: just went to the Super Bowl last year in San Francisco.

804
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: Their defensive coordinator was a guy named Robert Sala who

805
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: who is He's an outstanding guy. Tell us about your

806
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: experience in the forty nine ers. Could you see them

807
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: on the cusp of greatness? You know? Could you see

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00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: that in that organization when you were out there. Yes,

809
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: And I actually was there Coyle Shanahan's first year when

810
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 1: they were trying to turn it around. And you know,

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Speaker 1: San Francisco is an historic team and have so many

812
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: Super Bowls, So like when you come in there, like

813
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: all you see is the championships, You see the you know,

814
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Speaker 1: the pictures of Jerry Rice, of Clark, Joe Montana. So

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of history when you come into that

816
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Speaker 1: building and you have to pay homage. But to talk

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00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: about Robert Saller, it's a guy that's so energetic, like

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Speaker 1: you said he to this day. Steve is the only

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Speaker 1: coach that I've seen on the practice field that actually

820
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: wears clicks like the rest of the players. That's how

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00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: much energy this guy has. He's always moving around as

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00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: soon as the balls snap. He's running down the field

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Speaker 1: faster than the d line, faster than the linebackers, faster

824
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 1: than the dbs. And I guess that's why he keeps

825
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: us clicks on so he doesn't slip. But he's the

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Speaker 1: only guy that comes with energy every day. He always

827
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Speaker 1: gives you something to think about in the meetings, pre

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Speaker 1: practice and pre game. He's a guy that will be

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Speaker 1: in head for a head coaching job very soon. I'm

830
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Speaker 1: surprised you didn't get more interviews after this year, but

831
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Speaker 1: I can guarantee after this season, there'll be teams lined

832
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Speaker 1: up to see if he would want to come there

833
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: to be the head coach. He's a guy that has

834
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Speaker 1: a lot of energy. A sky's a limit for that guy.

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Speaker 1: And when I had him in twenty seventeen, it was

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Speaker 1: actually his first year as a defensive coordinator and I'm

837
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Speaker 1: just proud of him to see where he's grown from there.

838
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Speaker 1: It's where he is now. It's almost winning the Super

839
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Speaker 1: Bowl last year. We're with Layers Josable. He's a co

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Speaker 1: host on One Bill's Live, but he's also the host

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Speaker 1: of the Anything Is Doozable podcast and also cooking with

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Speaker 1: chef doos Um. Very busy guy. He also and you

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Speaker 1: told me this too, And I want to congratulate your

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Speaker 1: You trained pros. You trained some professional athletes, guys that

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Speaker 1: pro football players to get ready for training camp and

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Speaker 1: that thing. You've got a little place down and for

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Speaker 1: you doing Fort Lauderdale or around that area, and you're

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Speaker 1: about to open up a whole facility right correct. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's called Legacy Elite Training. I was actually blessed to

850
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Speaker 1: train a few bills. I trained Vince Taylor and Dion Dawkins. Um.

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Speaker 1: The premises is on line and d line specific. Everything

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Speaker 1: that we do on the field is to help you

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Speaker 1: be a better player on the field on Sunday. So

854
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: I had a lot of guys that call us Dunlapp

855
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 1: and may you all Oby and Charles Harris um who

856
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: else did I had? I had Jonathan Cyprian. So I

857
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 1: don't just train on line and D linean, I do linebackers.

858
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: I've had a few dbs and we're gonna open up

859
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: a facility. Well, I'll have some trainers for the wait

860
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: staff and also for speed work too. But when you come,

861
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: when you come down the legacy Elgue training, you're gonna

862
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: get the best work and use all my experience that

863
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: I've had ten years playing in the NFL, specifically on

864
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: line of D line training. Everything we do will be

865
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: reciprocated and things that you do on the field, so

866
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: you won't do any unnecessary things that doesn't equate to

867
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: what you do on the field. Yeah, it's a lot

868
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: of cool stuff going on. I know these guys. It

869
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: has become more than just even a cottage industry getting

870
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 1: these guys to train them. They look for guys to

871
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: train them in and guys who have played in the

872
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: league before, like you. They have an extra level of

873
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: credibility for these guys to come in and say what

874
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,760
Speaker 1: worked for you. And if you've got a ten year careers,

875
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: it really is three times longer than most guys get

876
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 1: a chance to play in the National Football League. So

877
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: you do bring a level of credibilities. I got to

878
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: congratulate you on your ability to pass that on to

879
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: the next generation of guys. We're also sitting in a

880
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: day on a Thursday. Here's day ten of training, August

881
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: twenty seventh. Around the National Football League, there's a number

882
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,839
Speaker 1: of teams. I'll name a couple of them. I think

883
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: it's the Bears, the Packers, and also the Jets who

884
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 1: are not practicing today. You can kind of get a

885
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: handle on why the Packers would be specifically hit. The

886
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars have postponed their practice. They wanted to have

887
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 1: a meeting about what was going on in our country

888
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: before they did as well, I would ask you this leash,

889
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: because I'm really thought about it this way. How can

890
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: the NFL and there's these players keep the conversation going

891
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: because even up until the tragedy with Jacob Blake, you

892
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 1: know now George Floyd seems a long time ago. We've

893
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: got the pandemic is happening. We got so much going on.

894
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: People are trying to get back to their normal lives

895
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: and this topic, as important and tragic as it is,

896
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 1: How can the can professional athletes keep the conversation sustained?

897
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: Without everybody being angry over or everybody you know just

898
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: growing tired of it. Well, to be honest with you, Steve,

899
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: it's an uncomfortable conversation and for for you to have

900
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: this conversation, you have to make people uncomfortable. And this

901
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: is making people uncomfortable. It's like you said before, when

902
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: the George Floyd thing hit, you know, we were in

903
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: the middle of the pandemic, the coronavirus, so people were

904
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: forced to sit and listen. Now that we're trying to

905
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: get to somewhat normal life back where sports are on

906
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: every day and you can kind of take your mind

907
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 1: off of things, you know, this issue happens again. And

908
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 1: I feel like the players are doing a great justice

909
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: to be able to boycott like they did in the

910
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,879
Speaker 1: NBA for teams like the Detroit Lions, for the Green

911
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: Bay Package, Chicago Jacksonville, to to you know, stop postpone practice,

912
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: to get people to listen and to see what is

913
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: happening in this country because like you said, it's so quick,

914
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: it's so easy for people to really forget what is

915
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: going on on a daily basis. For most black men

916
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: and women in America because they have sports or other

917
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: things to take their mind off of that. So that's

918
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: I think the NBA and the NFL is doing a

919
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: great job and players are doing a great job of

920
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 1: speaking up on these issues continuously. I think even when

921
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 1: we do get back to sports, you know, and who's

922
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: to say what the NBA is gonna do it. Like

923
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: we talked about earlier, it seems like the Lakers and

924
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: the Clippers want to continue to boycott maybe and the

925
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: rest of the teams like they want to play. They

926
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: have to continue to speak on these issues, whether it's

927
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: doing the press conference before games or after games, just

928
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: so people do not just brush it off and get

929
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: back to normal life. Because you gotta think you might

930
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 1: be getting back to your normal life, but this is

931
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: the normal life for most black men and women in America.

932
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: Or with Leiche Douzable one Bills Live, We're gonna take

933
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: a break and come back, Chris Trapasso if CBS Sports

934
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: is coming on with us later, and I'll tell you this,

935
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: if you want to if you want to be less,

936
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: if you want to be more comfortable in this conversation.

937
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: One thing I've known, and I've noticed for myself for

938
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: all of the listeners, take some positive action and don't stop.

939
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: If you take positive action, it makes you more comfortable

940
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: having these conversations. It gives you something to talk about

941
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:01,960
Speaker 1: and a platform for progressing down this road that we

942
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: all want to go down, one of justice and help

943
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: for everybody. And Lejay, glad to have you on. We're

944
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: gonna take a break. Steve Tasker, Lja Doozable, One Bill's Live,

945
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 1: presented by Callid to help. We'll be back right after this,

946
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: Right after this on Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One

947
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Steve task along with Lejay Doozable here co

948
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: hosting for the day. We've got a lot going on.

949
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: The Bills had a big, big fat scrimmage today and

950
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 1: uh not for nothing, our our guy here, Lejay, you're

951
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: the radio voice. You're the analyst on the radio broadcast

952
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: for UCF, Are you not? I am all right, school

953
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,439
Speaker 1: and all the nation. Okay, Now that means I gotta

954
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: I gotta run this by your boy. Your boy, Gabe

955
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: Davis is is killing it up here. We've heard nothing

956
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: but great stuff about what he's doing. He's he seems

957
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: to be a great leadership guy, high character. What can

958
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: you tell us about what he was like? At UCF

959
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,719
Speaker 1: because the Buffalo Bills are seemingly they got everything they

960
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: were wanting out of him and more. Well, the phrase

961
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 1: I was saying to you, Steve is a man amongst

962
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: little boys. Literally, that's what he was that UCF. At

963
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: every game he played played in they tried to roll

964
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: coverage to him. It didn't matter. He would still going

965
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: over one hundred yards. And the thing about Gabe is

966
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: he's a bigger receiver. You know, a lot of times

967
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 1: those receivers get boxed into just being a physical receiver

968
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: that can get jump balls. It's a good red zone threat.

969
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: But this guy can run every route and he's very

970
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: deceptive when it comes to the speed. You'll see it

971
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: on tape. You'll see so many dbs that have Clopton

972
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 1: probably like the four threes or the four fours, but

973
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: they cannot catch this guy once he gets into the

974
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: open field, when he runs that that post or that

975
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: go route, it's like he just takes off on dbs.

976
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,320
Speaker 1: And I've seen a few clips that Buffalo Bills posted

977
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: on the social media. It seems like he's doing an

978
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: amazing job. I told people this before when he went

979
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: in the fourth round. I said he was going to

980
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,879
Speaker 1: be distiller the draft. Everybody looked at me and said, man,

981
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: you're just being biased because you went to UCF and

982
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: you followed this kid, and you call the games for UCF.

983
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: But no, I've seen this guy. I know football. I

984
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 1: saw what he was doing to the opponents, whether it

985
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: was in the American or bigger games versus Pittsburgh or

986
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: any other conference that he played in. He went against

987
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: other opponents and destroyed them. And I heard he's having

988
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: a great CALF. I'm gonna be bold and go ahead

989
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 1: and saying right now that I believe that Dave Davis

990
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: will be the number one receiver for the Buffalo Bills

991
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: within two years. By his third year for the Buffalo Bills,

992
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 1: he will be the number one receiver. That's awesome. And

993
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 1: one of the things about it when you get up here,

994
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: and now, I don't know if you've kept track of this,

995
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 1: but Sean McDermott and Brandon Bean have said what they

996
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: look for something they called DNA and it has not

997
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: as much to do with what the guys like between

998
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: the lines, but what he's like outside the lines, to

999
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:03,720
Speaker 1: character he has. Gabe Davis was a guy they really

1000
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: liked and from what I've heard and seen, he is

1001
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 1: an I don't know what you call an old soul,

1002
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,479
Speaker 1: you know, really mature for a young guy, a guy

1003
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: who stands above it all and has a big picture

1004
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: view and everything he does, and that has come to

1005
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: the forefront as well. I think the players, his teammates,

1006
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: his new teammates started to notice that even down in

1007
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: Florida when they started to get together. What do you

1008
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 1: know about that part of Gabe Davis? Definitely an old school,

1009
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: old soul is the right word to describe as kid.

1010
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: I've been following him for the last three years. I've

1011
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: been blessed to be able to be one of the

1012
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 1: voices on the UCF radio team the last year, and

1013
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: this kid is just great. Are you here? Is great

1014
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 1: things about him. There's no off the field issues. All

1015
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 1: he does is each sleep football. He works at a

1016
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,360
Speaker 1: twenty four sevens just talking to this coach, coach hypel

1017
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: this guy after every practice stays and catches a hundred

1018
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: balls no matter how hard to practice. Are all hot.

1019
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: It was just to make sure he's honing in on

1020
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: his craft. And he got the rest of the receivers

1021
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: to really believe in that. At UCF and follow him.

1022
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: This kid is a natural born leader. Like I said,

1023
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: he eats sleeps football and this guy is a great

1024
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 1: pick by the Buffalo Bills. I still for a first

1025
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: round pick. I thought he should have went in the

1026
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,480
Speaker 1: first and second round based on his talent alone, but

1027
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 1: it was a deep receiver class. But I think when

1028
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: the smoke clears, this kid will be more impressive than

1029
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,479
Speaker 1: most of the receivers that went in the first round.

1030
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: Last question, you think he and I get you. I

1031
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: know where you're gonna answer. You're gonna say yes, but

1032
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: he could have been successful at a much bigger proy,

1033
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: like at an SEC school or that. But do you

1034
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: think UCF and and the fact that they earned a

1035
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: Power five school, you think that put him into the

1036
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: fourth round in the receiver class that was so deep,

1037
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say yes. I mean, if you look at

1038
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,960
Speaker 1: the history, Brandon Marshall, another receiver that's got the similar

1039
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: built to Gabe Davis, went in the fourth round. Yes,

1040
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 1: he has some off the field issues, but there's been

1041
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 1: receivers that had off the field issues that went in

1042
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: the first round. But there are not many guys that

1043
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: are built like Brandon Marshall and Gabe Davis think us

1044
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 1: being an American might have hurt him a little bit.

1045
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 1: But if you look at the Stanford game last year,

1046
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: their corner that was potentially supposed to come out, it

1047
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 1: was supposed to be one of the top two corners

1048
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: to come out, decided to go back last year. I

1049
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:12,799
Speaker 1: think a lot of it had to do with Gabe

1050
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,280
Speaker 1: Davis because Gabe took him up for a hundred yards

1051
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 1: easily in that game when we played Stanford last year.

1052
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: So if you look at it UCF, we've been ranked

1053
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: and obviously in the top ten consistently the last two

1054
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: out of the last three years. We're ranked again this year.

1055
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: I feel like it's time for organizations to stop looking

1056
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,440
Speaker 1: at who we play and just look at the players

1057
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: and see how they dominate the competition they go against.

1058
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: And also when they play a higher conference and they

1059
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 1: still dominate. Those teams that need to be put into

1060
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 1: perspective and not looked at as being in a weaker

1061
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,279
Speaker 1: conference or they don't play play. Anybody is as good

1062
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 1: as somebody in the SEC, because when we play other

1063
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: players play other teams in bigger conferences. Gabe Davids goes

1064
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 1: out there and he performs Bliche Doozable Steve Tasker here

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Speaker 1: in One Bill's Life. Coming up, we've got sound bites

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Speaker 1: from Sean McDermott. He was made available to the Western

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00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: New York meeting just before practice today. We're gonna replace

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Speaker 1: some of those sound bites. At two o'clock, we've got

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Speaker 1: a guest coming up, Chris Trapasso for CBS Sports. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna come on. He's got some interesting articles about who

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00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: he thinks is going to be a surprise story in

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Speaker 1: the National Football League this year. Steve Tasker, Leja Doozable

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Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live, presented by Kalid to Health. We'll

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00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: be right back on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back one

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00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 1: of those lives. Steve Tasker, Leja Douzable here until three o'clock.

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00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 1: Leje in for the day. And it's it's always great

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00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: because during your playing days, I know you did a

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00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. You had these uh, these little saying

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00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: that dudes and don'ts and it's funny. We thought we'd

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00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: bring it back for today. You've got your training camp,

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00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: you've been you went through ten training camps. I mean

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00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: you're the same with me. I went through, you know,

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00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: thirteen of them. You get pretty good at it, and

1084
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: you learn things year to year and you evolve as

1085
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: a player and you realize what's really really important in

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00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 1: training camp and you kind of you kind of live

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00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,399
Speaker 1: that spartan life there for about two or three weeks

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00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: while you're a training camp. So we're gonna bring it

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Speaker 1: back to the Liege Duozables, the dudes and don'ts of

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00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 1: training Camp, the Training Camp Edition. Okay, I'm gonna let

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00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: you take this, which give us a list of your

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00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,719
Speaker 1: a couple of list of your dudes. What do you

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00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: gotta do as an NFL player when you go to

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00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: training camp. So it's great to be able to do

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00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: this again, Steve, because as you know, when I was playing,

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00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: I used to do this every Tuesday with John Murphy

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00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: on this show. So it's great. It's a little a

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00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: little nostalgia here going flowing back all the way to

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00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen and being able to do this on One

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00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: Bill's Live again. So the first dudes is always have

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00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: your own toilet paper training camp. Toilet paper tends to

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00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: be a little week and it really breaks apart easily.

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00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:52,799
Speaker 1: Do you always want to make sure you have your

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00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: own teiletpaper. Now. I know training camps a little different

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00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: this year because some guys are actually staying home, but

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00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 1: most times you're at a college camp or at a hotel,

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00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,919
Speaker 1: So make sure you have your own toilet paper when

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00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: you come to training camp. Yeah, the rules are same

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00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 1: paper they give you a training camp. Just don't Yeah,

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00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: just are not good. So it doesn't do it that

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00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: is and it's listen, it is all in the details, man.

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00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: You gotta that's the kind of thing that makes the difference.

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00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: What I totally get that one. What's the next, dudes,

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00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 1: and don'ts what's the dudes? The number number two dudes

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00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: is get a pillow top and bring your own seats

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00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: to training camp. As we and Steve just stated, a

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00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: lot of times you go away from training camp, so

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00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: you either at a hotel and sometimes hotel beds aren't

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00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: the comfortable is and also a lot of times when

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00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: you go to college campus, you know those those beds

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00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 1: are comfortable. So you got to think about it, especially

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00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:43,279
Speaker 1: if you're a d lineman or old lineman UA over

1123
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: three hundred pounds, you're sleeping on that at a hard,

1124
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: hard shell is not gonna do it. You gotta be

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00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:49,720
Speaker 1: able to be able to get up in the morning

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00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: and function the next day. Get you a nice pillow top,

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00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: bring your old chiefs because also the cheats they usually

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00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,920
Speaker 1: provide that those college campuses are very thin. It's comparable

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00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: to the to that toilet pa. But we talked about earlier.

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00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: That's right. Well, the other thing that you must do

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00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: so you can have a successful training camp. Yeah, the

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00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,479
Speaker 1: college sheets have the thread count of burlap, so they're

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00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 1: really rough. So and I'll tell you this, this is

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Speaker 1: the one I got because I was lucky enough to

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00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: I was at two places for training camp. I was

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00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 1: in for the East Orders. We're in San Angelo, Texas,

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00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: which I was a young rookie and then which I

1138
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: didn't think I was gonna make the team than I did.

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00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: And I got another training camp the same place, and

1140
00:54:27,160 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: I didn't really get a chance to learn too much.

1141
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: When I got to Buffalo, was always at at Fredonia College,

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00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 1: and over the years I got better and better the

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00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: absolutely And this is a point, a life point for

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00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: all of us out there. Listening good sleep is the

1145
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: most important health thing you can do. I have learned,

1146
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: and that was so true in training camp because man,

1147
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: you sleep like you sleep like you're dead in training camp.

1148
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: And if you can't get right, even on the best conditions,

1149
00:54:56,280 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: you sleep like you're dead. If you can't sleep in training,

1150
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: if you're uncomfortable, it is it is three weeks of hell.

1151
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: So I used to bring I used to guy used

1152
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: to rent mattresses. I brought a king mattress with me.

1153
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: I brought, I brought like an air conditioner for the room.

1154
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: I brought everything. And you just you gotta have good

1155
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 1: sleep or your life is gonna be made miserable because

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00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: of it. I am totally with you on that one,

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00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 1: totally with you. What's the next one? The last news

1158
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 1: is bring your xbox or your PS four because in

1159
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,120
Speaker 1: between downtime or on off days, you need something to

1160
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: keep you busier. You're gonna you know, losing to go

1161
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,720
Speaker 1: ahead crazy. But this rule does not apply to rookies.

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00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: You need to be in your playbook twenty four to

1163
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: seven because you're learning new terminology and it's a different

1164
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: thing transitioning from college to the NFL. So this rule

1165
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,120
Speaker 1: doesn't apply to the rookies, but for vests that have

1166
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: been in the game for a while to know the

1167
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 1: playbook that are returning to teams they've been on make

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00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: sure you bring your Xbox in your PS four. Yeah,

1169
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,759
Speaker 1: I will cheapest, cheapishly agree with you that if a

1170
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 1: lesson that here's the thing, the bottom line. You got

1171
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: to bring something to occupy your free time with something

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00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: constructive or at least harmless, which is something that mine

1173
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: and my crew in the nineties sometimes struggled with, is

1174
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: filling our free time with something constructive. Okay, so now

1175
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,879
Speaker 1: do now do the don't So you got three dudes.

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00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: You always bring your own toilet paper, you get your pillowtop,

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00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: you get your bed right, and then bring something to

1178
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 1: occupy your mind. This constructive and it will keep you, say,

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00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: mostly off your feet as well when you when you

1180
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: recreate right exactly all right, now you're don'ts? What's what

1181
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: are the dudes? And these are the don'ts of training camp.

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00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: Let's hear these. The first don't is never take a

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00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 1: shower without shower flops. Again, you're traveling away for training camp.

1184
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: A lot of times these are college dorms. College kids

1185
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 1: tend to be nasty. I want to get some fungus

1186
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,240
Speaker 1: or something on your feet because you didn't wear flops

1187
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: in the shower. Make sure you bring your shower flops

1188
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,600
Speaker 1: when you go to training camp. Yeah, because I'll tell

1189
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,759
Speaker 1: you it seems like it's it's it's interesting you say

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00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,680
Speaker 1: that because you shower. It feels like you shower nine

1191
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 1: times a day when you're easy showers, you get up

1192
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 1: so you can get woken up. Then you go practice,

1193
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: you shower, after practice, you lay down if you can

1194
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: do it, and then you kind of some guys and

1195
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: I do it, rinse off before you go back over there,

1196
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: because you can kind of wake back up if you

1197
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: lay down, take a nap. You know you're groggy, so

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00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 1: you shower again before and after practice. Then you shower

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Speaker 1: so you can sleep at night because it's nine thousand

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00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 1: degrees outside. You know, all you do is shower at

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00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: training camp. And yeah, you got to do it right.

1202
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: You're right. That's absolutely crucial, absolutely crucial. What's another one?

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00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: This is a great one. Yeah, number two. Never get

1204
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 1: caught falling asleep in meetings in training camp. Yes, these

1205
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: are dog days, they're grueling days. A lot of times

1206
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: you're up at six, you don't get back to your

1207
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: room till nine pm. But you never want to get

1208
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 1: caught falling asleep at straining camp. That's a big though.

1209
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 1: You don't want to get caught falling asleep withhin me,

1210
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:58,040
Speaker 1: but definitely training camp because coaches are even in tune

1211
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: even more during training camp because as you're in so

1212
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: many meetings, so you don't want to fall asleep. And

1213
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: training camp. I've even seeing guys look at this method

1214
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:08,479
Speaker 1: right here and do the tower like this and hold

1215
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 1: it right here to stay up fall asleep. So whatever

1216
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 1: you gotta do, make sure you never fall asleep. And

1217
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 1: training can't meet. Tell you what when you if you

1218
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: want to feel like you got away with the crime

1219
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: of the century, you fall asleep in a meeting like

1220
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 1: that and you wake up without anybody knowing, you feel

1221
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: like you just you feel like you just escaped death. Right,

1222
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,160
Speaker 1: It's the best thing ever. You fall, you fell asleep,

1223
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,439
Speaker 1: You've got you wake up and you look around, nobody knew,

1224
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, it is like you just literally

1225
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 1: like you got out of a car accident. Scott Free.

1226
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: I mean it is. It is the best feel to

1227
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: be in a dark room and the coach notices that

1228
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: you're dozing off and he turns the lights on and

1229
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,760
Speaker 1: taps you because you were sleeping and oh my gosh,

1230
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: that yeah, that's exactly right. That is the that is

1231
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,560
Speaker 1: the absolute worst feeling in all the world. Okay, that's

1232
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: an easy one, though, what's the next one. The next

1233
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: one is for all your rookies out there, never run

1234
00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: out of snacks for the meeting room. For the veterans,

1235
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,280
Speaker 1: that's a big nun note. Never run out of snacks.

1236
00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: We talked about it, Steve. These are grueling days and

1237
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: long days, and the number one snack usually in training

1238
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: camp sunflower seeds. And it's not for to taste. It's

1239
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: literally to keep people up. Yeah, so you can chew

1240
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,360
Speaker 1: on something to stay up. You can't fall asleep while

1241
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: you're sunflower seeds. Make sure that snack room is packed

1242
00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: to capacity every day. Yeah see, because it's hard to

1243
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 1: fall because you know, you stick the whole seeds in

1244
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: one side of your mouth and you eat them one

1245
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 1: at a time. You can't fall asleep while you're concentrating

1246
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: on doing that. It keeps you, right, That's it's a technique, right, Yeah,

1247
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: that's what's it. I've used it so many times to

1248
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: make sure I stayed up in meetings. Those are the

1249
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,880
Speaker 1: dudes and don'ts of training camp, and they are you

1250
00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: can you can chisel those in stone because those are

1251
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 1: those are good ones, man, those are words to live by,

1252
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 1: some of them. So not just for training camp forever. Also, uh,

1253
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: in this hour, we also want to take them here.

1254
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott was made available to the Western New York

1255
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: media and by the way, Leige, those were good ones.

1256
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: I like that. We should do that more often. Sean

1257
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: McDermott was made available to the Western New York media

1258
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: and uh, yeah, after the I guess it was after practice.

1259
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: This says post practice sound. So Devin Singletary addresses the media.

1260
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: Let's see here, Hold on, now what am I looking at?

1261
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 1: Is this? Okay? This I've got jay bird? Is this

1262
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:34,480
Speaker 1: often McDermott this morning? Okay, here we go. I'm I apologize,

1263
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: that's mine, Sean McDermott. I'm in the wrong spot on

1264
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: my on my rundown. Sean McDermott on the controversy and

1265
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: the outrage over the shooting, the unnecessary shooting of Jacob

1266
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 1: Blake in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Sean McDermott was asked about that

1267
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: by the media today and and what his take wasn't

1268
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 1: how his team was going to respond to and how

1269
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: he felt about it. Here's the Bill's head coach on

1270
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: the Jacob Blake shooting. Yeah. We I can tell you

1271
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: we've had we have had some very lengthy and serious

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Speaker 1: conversations as a team. Uh. And then I'm sure there's

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01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: been some you know, conversations as well in smaller groups. UM. So,

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01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: as I mentioned with my answer to Marcela's it is

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Speaker 1: a situation that we take very very seriously. UM, I

1276
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: as a leader take it seriously as well. And and

1277
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: so those conversations will continue. UM. And I think those

1278
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: are those are good conversations to haves. Well, it's it's

1279
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: it's always important, um, to know what's going on in

1280
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:39,880
Speaker 1: our world from a current, current event standpoint. Um. You know,

1281
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,480
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we're all human. Even

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01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: though we were in this in the bubble of the

1283
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: NFL or professional sports, UM, we're all still a part

1284
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: of this world and in this country and and so UM.

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01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: The other piece of it that's critical to me is

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01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: that our players know that we care about them and

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01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: support them and and uh, you know, we're sensitive to

1288
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:05,439
Speaker 1: the things that they've been around seen in some ways

1289
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:08,320
Speaker 1: as well. So I think it's important that they know

1290
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: that they're being heard and that they have a voice

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01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: and that we support them. That was Sean McDermott on

1292
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: the controversy and the outrage surrounding the shooting of Jacob

1293
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: Blake in Wisconsin that has riddled our country with a conversation.

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01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: Once again, he was also asked, because there's about the

1295
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: possibility of canceling practice today because of the social unrest.

1296
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: The Bears Packers both canceled practice, the Jets canceled practice,

1297
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:42,960
Speaker 1: the Jaguars pushed their practice back two hours, and McDermott

1298
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: was asked if that was a possibility for the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: Here's what he said yesterday. Well, you know that goes

1300
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: to me. You know, we're an open, open team here

1301
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 1: and they know my door is always open and we've

1302
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: done that in the past and the guys know that

1303
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,280
Speaker 1: and we will continue to do that going forward. That

1304
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: they know, um, where my heart is and where the

1305
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 1: organization's heart is, and and um and so um. You know,

1306
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: I hope they they My goal is that they understand

1307
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 1: that always that they have they have that option, and

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01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: you know, we don't we don't make anybody do anything

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01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 1: that they don't want to do around here. And uh,

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01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 1: and so I think again it goes back Joe to

1311
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: the to the mutual respect that I hope that we

1312
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:31,640
Speaker 1: have everyone inside of our building has for one another. Uh.

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01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: These are these are very emotional, UM conversations, their emotional decisions,

1314
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: their emotional feelings, and there are things that we take

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01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 1: very very seriously. Sean McDermott on the possibility of canceling

1316
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 1: practice today in the wake of the Jason Blake shooting

1317
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: and in the preceding months the George Floyd tragedy as well,

1318
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,480
Speaker 1: and during these times of the pandemic and the social

1319
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 1: and rest in our country, Sean McDermot was asked what

1320
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: he has learned from his players in regards to social injustice.

1321
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,920
Speaker 1: And here's what the head coach had to say about that. True.

1322
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I learned a ton. I learned

1323
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 1: a ton just by listening. Uh. And in particular to

1324
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 1: the recent conversations, I mean going back to twenty seventeen, yes,

1325
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:22,000
Speaker 1: and all the while, um, and I think those are

1326
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,560
Speaker 1: those you know, leaning in on guys with our with

1327
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 1: our team here has been important over the years. In

1328
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: particular this year, and um as late as this year,

1329
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 1: and and uh, the conversations we've had recently. You know,

1330
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: any time you're able to spend more time together, you're

1331
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: able to get to know one another better as well,

1332
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 1: and so understanding each other's story. That's part of the

1333
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: reason why we share stories around here, so that people

1334
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 1: can better understand one another and where we all come

1335
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: from and how we're all the same yet how we're

1336
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: all different. And um, I think that leads to sharing

1337
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: that information leads to better understanding. Hopefully. That was a

1338
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: Bill's head coach on all the the controversy and the

1339
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: conversation going around about the social injustices that we're witnessing

1340
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,480
Speaker 1: in our country. Lege you've watched the head coach of

1341
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: the Bills, You've seen what they've done over the last

1342
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 1: two or three years and building this organization the culture

1343
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: that he obviously alluded to here. What are your thoughts

1344
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 1: on how Sean McDermott and the Buffalo Bills are handling

1345
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: what's going on in our country. Well, have to love

1346
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: that coaches is willing to sit down and listen to

1347
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: a players. Most of his planned players are predominantly of

1348
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: black descent, so for him to come down and sit

1349
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: down with his players and actually hear them and hear

1350
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: some of their concerns is a great thing for an organization.

1351
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:39,439
Speaker 1: It really shows that the organization is back in as

1352
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: players who are predominantly black, black Americans in America and

1353
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: deal with these struggles day in the day out, whether

1354
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: they have tons of money or not. At the end

1355
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: of the day, like we said before, Steve, these are

1356
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: still black men and these are struggles that we go

1357
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 1: through on a daily basis. So I would applaud Sean

1358
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: McDermott and the Buffaloes Bills organization for being able to

1359
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: set aside some time and discuss these issues. That way,

1360
01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: we could educate more and more people. And people are

1361
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: willing to learn, and that's that's that's the thing that

1362
01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: we need to really talk about, is people are willing

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01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,000
Speaker 1: to educate themselves and learn. And I feel like it's

1364
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: my duty as a black man and those players on

1365
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: that team to educate everybody else, because, like you said,

1366
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: you didn't know a lot of these these things were happening,

1367
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 1: and they if they're not in your face and you're

1368
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 1: not seeing them, you know, on a daily basis, then

1369
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 1: you don't really know. But as long as somebody's willing

1370
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 1: to get educated, then there's our job to educate them,

1371
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,960
Speaker 1: and that way we can maybe make some viable change

1372
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,520
Speaker 1: in this country together. Well, I appreciate your your sentiment

1373
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: about feeling like it's part of your job to educate people,

1374
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 1: but it is not your job to educate people. People

1375
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,560
Speaker 1: got to do it themselves. And it's not only going

1376
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 1: to be education when they take it upon themselves to learn.

1377
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,400
Speaker 1: And and I you know, through a lot of things

1378
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: that you know, you start reading books from from black

1379
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:01,120
Speaker 1: authors about what it's been like in our country, and

1380
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 1: it is eye opening. You start to educate yourself, and

1381
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 1: it takes a lot of hard work, a lot of

1382
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 1: hard work. People just quite frankly, just don't want to do.

1383
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,560
Speaker 1: It's hard. They'd rather have they would rather have a

1384
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: prominent black man like yourself say what what's my deal?

1385
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: You know, how can I help? What should I be doing?

1386
01:07:18,640 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: And those difficult conversations are are you know, hard work?

1387
01:07:23,240 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 1: And for people who are you know, overrun with the

1388
01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 1: pandemic and with the loss of their jobs and their

1389
01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:32,600
Speaker 1: own family problems and their own issues, sometimes it's just

1390
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 1: too much more to be put on their plate, and

1391
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 1: I get it. For a lot of people, it's a

1392
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 1: hard conversation to go above and beyond life's troubles that

1393
01:07:39,120 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: have that we all have to educate yourself on the

1394
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 1: troubles of another group of people. It's it's exhausting for

1395
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: all of us. But I appreciate your willingness to be

1396
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: one of those voices that say listen, here's how it is.

1397
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 1: And I hope that there's a ton of people who

1398
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: are at least willing to sit down and listen, so

1399
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: that that so I think through listening, maybe we understand better,

1400
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: and if we understand better, things may get better. Yes, Steve,

1401
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: I would echo that, and I'll correct what I say.

1402
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: If somebody has a question from a different background, ethical,

1403
01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 1: ethnic background, and they want to learn more, I then

1404
01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:17,200
Speaker 1: I do feel like it's my duty. And you're right,

1405
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,799
Speaker 1: it's everybody's duty to educate themselves properly on the issues

1406
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 1: that are at hand and the social injustice and police brutality.

1407
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,639
Speaker 1: But if there's somebody that comes to me and asks

1408
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: a leija, what can I do to help you and

1409
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,679
Speaker 1: aid you know black men and women in this country,

1410
01:08:31,760 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: then I do feel that it is my duty to

1411
01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,280
Speaker 1: give them some information and help educate them, and even

1412
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: if I don't know the answer, to point them in

1413
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: the direction where they where I know that somebody that

1414
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 1: does have the answer can give them the correct answer. Well,

1415
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: in the midst of all of this, you know, the

1416
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,559
Speaker 1: NFL seasons bearing down on us, and athletes have been

1417
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,600
Speaker 1: pushed to the forefront, both in our pleasure interests, you know,

1418
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 1: in our entertainment we want to see these guys play,

1419
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: and also in the social activist movement. The NBA has

1420
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,680
Speaker 1: postponed some of their playoff games and they will resume those.

1421
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: It's coming out now that the NBA is gonna get

1422
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 1: those games back in. You know, some of these teams,

1423
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 1: the NBA players said, I'm boycott in that game. I

1424
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:12,679
Speaker 1: can't in good conscience go out and entertain people, particularly

1425
01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:16,799
Speaker 1: the Milwaukee Bucks. They can't go out and entertain people

1426
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 1: in a situation where there is an atmosphere of brutality

1427
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: and unnecessary deaths in our community. We just feel it's

1428
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: so wrong, And so they boycotted a game, and the

1429
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: NBA has since not canceled those games, but postponed them.

1430
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,639
Speaker 1: And the NBA looks like now is thinking about they're

1431
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 1: gonna get those games in. But that's a statement that

1432
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,800
Speaker 1: was well made by those players, and I applaud them

1433
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 1: for that. The NFL, on the other hand, they're kind

1434
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 1: of grinding towards this opening day. The Bills had a

1435
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: big scrimmage today and as we heard Sean McDermott first

1436
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: and foremost address the social injustice, he also had some

1437
01:09:52,360 --> 01:09:54,839
Speaker 1: football stuff to talk about. The Bills had a scrimmage

1438
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:57,560
Speaker 1: in the stadium today and this is what Sean McDermott

1439
01:09:57,640 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: said about the importance of that scrimmage. Yeah, John, you

1440
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 1: know it's uh so our goal today is to come

1441
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: out and get the guys and as much of a

1442
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: routine as we can. You know, we've got a number

1443
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 1: of new guys, as you're aware of, on our team

1444
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:13,919
Speaker 1: that have never even been in this in the stadium

1445
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,080
Speaker 1: locker room. The locker room was under construction for some

1446
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: time to make sure it met protocols, and now that

1447
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: it's done. I had a chance to look at it

1448
01:10:23,000 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: last week and the players now for the first time

1449
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,040
Speaker 1: on the other side of the wall from me here

1450
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: is you can probably hear the music in the background,

1451
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 1: and so that's important that they as a competitor can

1452
01:10:34,200 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: can have a feel for what it's like and what

1453
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: our pregame routine is like as well as our halftime

1454
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 1: routine and get as comfortable as they can heading into

1455
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: into Week one. Sean McDermott on the importance of this scrimmage.

1456
01:10:47,320 --> 01:10:49,880
Speaker 1: It sounds like it was a pretty big deal, not

1457
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: only to the team but also to Sean McDermott. So

1458
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,120
Speaker 1: many things are different, and if they want to get

1459
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: a look at these guys under just a little bit

1460
01:10:57,080 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 1: of pressure, this about as good as they can do,

1461
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 1: getting them in the stadium and putting some points on

1462
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,320
Speaker 1: the board and getting some guys who are teamed up

1463
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,559
Speaker 1: trying to win a scrimmage. If you a ten year fat,

1464
01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:10,280
Speaker 1: for me a thirteen year fat, and I've covered the

1465
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:14,160
Speaker 1: NFL for two decades, not much pressure in an offseason scrimmage.

1466
01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: But the coach are doing what they can to get

1467
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 1: a look at these guys. Yes, and I don't envy

1468
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 1: the job of gems and coaches this year, just because,

1469
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: as we just stated, Steve, like, you're not gonna be

1470
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 1: having preseason games, You're not gonna have those crossover practices

1471
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,560
Speaker 1: against other teams, so you have to decide if a

1472
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: guy's making all these plays and practice, can you translate

1473
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,040
Speaker 1: that when the lights are on on game day when

1474
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 1: there is pressure. Because we had this old saying, Steve,

1475
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:40,680
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you've you've heard this too, there's so

1476
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,639
Speaker 1: many guys that are so called all star practice players,

1477
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,559
Speaker 1: but when those lights come out, they're nowhere to be found.

1478
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,160
Speaker 1: So now your job is to figure out can some

1479
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 1: of these guys elevate their game from the practice field

1480
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 1: to the game day situations. And that's why you're having

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Speaker 1: these scrimmages that are like gamel situations. You have guys

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01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,800
Speaker 1: have two halves. You go in at halftime and be

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01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,720
Speaker 1: able to come out. Can you still play at at

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01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:05,760
Speaker 1: the high level that you were playing at in the

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01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:07,719
Speaker 1: first half you come out in the second half, Because,

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01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: as we stayed earlier in the show, most of the

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01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,479
Speaker 1: times after practice you're going inside and you're chilling for

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01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: the rest of the day, whether it's meetings or you're

1489
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: going home, or at the whole offseason. You've just done

1490
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 1: workouts and now you get to go home and chill.

1491
01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: Can your body turn that switch back on after it's

1492
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 1: been sitting idle for twenty twenty five thirty minutes, and

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01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: that's something that the coaches really have to dig into

1494
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: and figure out which one of these players can help

1495
01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:33,799
Speaker 1: us going forward, Guys that can translate from the practice

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Speaker 1: field onto the game field. Leiche Doozable, Steve Tasker here

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01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,200
Speaker 1: till three o'clock. Christ Prasso of CBS Sports. He's their

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Speaker 1: draft analyst coming up. He's also a Western New York native.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna have some things to say about the National

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Speaker 1: Football League at large. Lejay Doozable, Steve Tasker here till

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01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: three one Bills Live presented by Khalid to Health on

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01:12:51,400 --> 01:13:06,280
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to one of those lives,

1503
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: Team Tasker, leg Doozable here untill three o'clock. Coming up,

1504
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 1: we might have a little bit of sound bites from

1505
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 1: Mattie glab who is at the scrimmage today for the

1506
01:13:13,760 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. We're also going to have Chris Trepasso of

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01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 1: CBS Sports on later in the program as well. We've

1508
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: also got sound bites from Devin Singletary and Jerry who's

1509
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna try and turn around. We may get those today,

1510
01:13:24,760 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 1: we may have to wait till tomorrow to get those

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01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,800
Speaker 1: because they're just coming in and it takes us a

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01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 1: minute to turn those around physically. We also have this

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01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: topic which we've been asking our listeners about doozable liege,

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01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: Which which is this Which Bills defensive position group will

1515
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: have the bigger impact in twenty twenty? Which defensive position

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01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:45,960
Speaker 1: group of the Buffalo Bills will have the biggest impact

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01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. We gave you two choices. We took

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01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: the linebackers out, which already said CORNEI has been at

1519
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,320
Speaker 1: chimed in on us and said, hey, it's gonna be

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01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:56,840
Speaker 1: the linebackers, but it's defensive backs are defensive line. Right now,

1521
01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: it's fifty four percent say defensive line, forty seven percent

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01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 1: and forty six percent say defensive backs. It's just about

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01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: a coin flip, and people say the defensive line. I

1524
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,080
Speaker 1: think maybe we talked in a couple of more percentage

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01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 1: points into our point of view years in mind. My

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01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: thought was, and I said this earlier in the show, Lije,

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01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 1: and I agreed with you. My reasoning was that I

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01:14:19,840 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 1: think the defensive line has made bigger improvements this offseason.

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01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: I expect them to be much better this year than

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01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: they were a year, and they were good a year ago.

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01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:29,600
Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying anything like that,

1532
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking they're gonna be really good this year.

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01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: A much different group than they were a year ago.

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01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: New faces at Oliver. Oliver's gonna, I think, take a

1535
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,320
Speaker 1: step forward. A J. P Andes is going to add something,

1536
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 1: and then Quentin Vernon, Mario Addison, Vernon Butler, those guys

1537
01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: can really go. I think so. I think it's going

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01:14:50,439 --> 01:14:52,160
Speaker 1: to be a better group up front, and because of

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01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: that difference, that's the impact that's going to have on

1540
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: a defense that was already very good. That's my point.

1541
01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 1: What definitely steve all the names you just name, Let's

1542
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: just talk about the depth. You know, I think the

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01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: defensive line, as we stated earlier on the show, is

1544
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:10,280
Speaker 1: the deepest position group on the Bills team period. And

1545
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,320
Speaker 1: if you look at it, a lot of starters might

1546
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 1: be backups, and they were starters at previous places they

1547
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: were at. You mean, you look at Quinnin Jefferson, who

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01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,040
Speaker 1: was a starter, he could potentially be a backup. Trent Murphy,

1549
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 1: who was the start of the last two years for

1550
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,519
Speaker 1: the Bills, could potentially be a backup. You draft the

1551
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: guy in the second round, and usually when you're drafting

1552
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: that high, he's either a starter or the third guy.

1553
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 1: Aj Epinessen might be the fourth end. I mean, you

1554
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,439
Speaker 1: just talk about the depth and the impact that will

1555
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 1: have on the secondary, and then you look at the secondary.

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01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:39,400
Speaker 1: It's one of the best secondaries in all the NFL,

1557
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: but I don't see them being as deep as the front.

1558
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:44,800
Speaker 1: The front guys are, and when you have that many

1559
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:47,560
Speaker 1: guys in waves coming at the quarterback, you would have

1560
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:49,840
Speaker 1: to say, and the defensive line will have the biggest

1561
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: impact on this defense in twenty twenty. Yeah, And I

1562
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 1: think it also is born out. And if you go

1563
01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 1: down the list and you think of scenarios that could

1564
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,920
Speaker 1: happen that could alter that landscape. What happens if today

1565
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: Vious White sprains his foot, The complexion of that secondary

1566
01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:08,200
Speaker 1: change is a great deal. If if Jerry Hughes sprains

1567
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 1: his foot, well you stick j Upenez in or at all.

1568
01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: You know, you've got some guys there that can go.

1569
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 1: You don't have any all pro corners that you can

1570
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 1: just plug right back in, but you've got a ton

1571
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:19,640
Speaker 1: of guys that can and versatile guys dts that can

1572
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 1: move out to defensive end and vice versa. So I

1573
01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 1: agree with you. I think the defensive line is not

1574
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:30,520
Speaker 1: only set up to be really effective, but also sustainable

1575
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: for seventeen weeks, you know what I mean, from start

1576
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:37,639
Speaker 1: to finish. A rash of injuries is not gonna hamper

1577
01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 1: them as much as it would the defensive backfield. Also,

1578
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,320
Speaker 1: we've gotten a lot of feedback on the tweet sheet

1579
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: what defensive position group will have a bigger impact in

1580
01:16:46,200 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty from tax? On the tweet sheet, he says

1581
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 1: this the tweet sheet brought to you, by the way

1582
01:16:50,840 --> 01:16:53,320
Speaker 1: by Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment movers or the

1583
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill From tax, he says this, this is the

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01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:00,320
Speaker 1: best depth we've had on our d line in my

1585
01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 1: twenty years as a Bills fan. He's probably right, and

1586
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 1: he echoes exactly what you said, Ligey. There's just a

1587
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:10,360
Speaker 1: ton of really good players up front, and you get

1588
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 1: into the fourth quarter of sixteen games with fresh pass

1589
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: rushers against the same five offensive lineman that played on

1590
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 1: the opening drive, you're gonna see, You're gonna see some

1591
01:17:20,439 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: difference being made late in games. Yeah, there's nothing more

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01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,840
Speaker 1: deflating to an offensive lineman. When a defensive lineman runs

1593
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 1: out the field and then the fresh guy comes on

1594
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,800
Speaker 1: and he's playing at the same level as that guy

1595
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,560
Speaker 1: that just left off the field. Nothing more deflating to

1596
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 1: an offensive lineman than a fresh pass rusher. And we

1597
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:42,080
Speaker 1: talked about is Steve like, this defensive line is really deep.

1598
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,240
Speaker 1: There's potential starters that might be backups. And like you said,

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01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,519
Speaker 1: when you look at the secondary Estradavious White goes down

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01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,839
Speaker 1: or Michael o'hig goes down, I think you could potentially

1601
01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: maybe have some issues. But on the defensive front, if

1602
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 1: one guy goes down, you literally have a potential starter

1603
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:00,400
Speaker 1: backing them up, so you really don't lose that much.

1604
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that if Jerry Hughes goes down, you're

1605
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 1: not gonna lose them, because of course you're gonna lose something,

1606
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:07,560
Speaker 1: but it won't be as bad because you have a

1607
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:10,680
Speaker 1: Trip Murphy, you have a second round pick aj Epeneza

1608
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 1: coming in, and you have so much depth and inside

1609
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 1: of the defensive tackle position. If you have very Vernon

1610
01:18:16,680 --> 01:18:19,879
Speaker 1: Butler and at Oliver starting, if one of them potentially

1611
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: gets dinged up, you got Quintin Jefferson, the guy who's

1612
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,360
Speaker 1: played a lot of football and started a lot of games,

1613
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:27,719
Speaker 1: and Harrison's in the game, and Harrison Phillipson at time

1614
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:30,200
Speaker 1: played really at a high level. So the thing is

1615
01:18:30,280 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 1: that depth is the main difference between the secondary and

1616
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:34,960
Speaker 1: a defensive line, and the fact that it's a in

1617
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,639
Speaker 1: you and I both know you as ten year FET

1618
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:39,599
Speaker 1: me as a FET two. It is a long season

1619
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 1: and depth just makes you so much more effective in

1620
01:18:43,240 --> 01:18:46,360
Speaker 1: weeks twelve, in week fifteen, in week seventeen. It's just,

1621
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's just you're just more productive because you're

1622
01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 1: not going hard for eighty plays a game. You're going

1623
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: hard for fifty plays or forty plays a game. It

1624
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: makes an enormous difference over the course of a four

1625
01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: month season. Also fund the sweet sheet from Jack Now

1626
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,439
Speaker 1: he took the other side of the argument and took DBS.

1627
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,679
Speaker 1: Jack says this, they were already an excellent and adaptable group.

1628
01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: If Norman, Josh Norman gets healthy and can rebound to

1629
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:14,280
Speaker 1: even ninety percent of his Carolina form, they will be

1630
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:17,759
Speaker 1: a no fly zone. Love the talent on the D line,

1631
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 1: but there has been a lot of changes there. They

1632
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 1: may also miss Starlow to Lelay with no preseason games,

1633
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 1: it may take some time to jail. And that's a

1634
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,599
Speaker 1: good point too. You tell me as a defensive lineman,

1635
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: they got a lot of guys and a little different

1636
01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:34,559
Speaker 1: clicks of them have played together, but you know, they

1637
01:19:34,640 --> 01:19:37,439
Speaker 1: haven't all rotated in as one cohesive group yet, and

1638
01:19:37,479 --> 01:19:39,200
Speaker 1: they've never done it in a game, not even a

1639
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,959
Speaker 1: preseason game. How long is that? How big an adjustment

1640
01:19:42,120 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 1: is that going to be once they start taking live snaps.

1641
01:19:46,560 --> 01:19:49,000
Speaker 1: I mean, it's an adjustment, but it's an adjustment for everybody.

1642
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:50,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta work Josh Norman in too. You

1643
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:53,600
Speaker 1: gotta think about that. He's coming over from Washington. He

1644
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 1: was in Carolina what three or four years ago. Mario

1645
01:19:57,640 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 1: Addison and Bryan Butler. I don't think it be just

1646
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:03,439
Speaker 1: a biggest of a changeover because those guys played in

1647
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:06,439
Speaker 1: the system with McDermott while they were in Carolina, So

1648
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: it's not like they went and got guys they have

1649
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: never been in the system for all intents and purposes.

1650
01:20:11,439 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 1: They practically were still in the same system in Carolina

1651
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,800
Speaker 1: when they came over to Buffalo. So I still think

1652
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,360
Speaker 1: that the defensive line will make the biggest impact and

1653
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 1: It's like you said, it's a long ruling season, and

1654
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:24,879
Speaker 1: if one of those top three guys in the secondary

1655
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,600
Speaker 1: goes down, then what do you do. I mean, the

1656
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 1: depth from the defensive line is probably one of the

1657
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 1: best in the NFL, of not the best. Yeah, it's

1658
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 1: interesting too if we have these the analytics guys from

1659
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:37,120
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus on and they started this little debate

1660
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,479
Speaker 1: I've had with everybody on the show, and I'm surprised

1661
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,559
Speaker 1: I haven't brought it up to you yet. So they're

1662
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: they're in the analytics guys, you know, the scientists that

1663
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 1: go through the numbers and the snaps and the snap

1664
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 1: counts and the percentages. They're of the opinion these days

1665
01:20:51,080 --> 01:20:53,240
Speaker 1: that is kind of the opposite of us of guys

1666
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:55,719
Speaker 1: like me, you know, Joe Blows sitting in the center stands.

1667
01:20:56,200 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 1: I'm always about. I think the best passage is the pressure.

1668
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,719
Speaker 1: The best defense is the one that can can conjure

1669
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 1: up pressure. We said it even earlier in the show

1670
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 1: when the Seattle Seahawks, you know, when they could get

1671
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 1: pressure quick with four guys makes all the difference in

1672
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: the world. And the Legion of Boom made their name

1673
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,680
Speaker 1: because of the pressure. The analytics guys are saying kind

1674
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 1: of the opposite of that. They're saying, listen, if you've

1675
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 1: got great coverage in the back end your defensive front,

1676
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:23,479
Speaker 1: eventually we'll get to the quarterback. But if you've got

1677
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:27,680
Speaker 1: great coverage, here's the reason they say that, because when

1678
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 1: you have pressure, even if you get great pressure, today's

1679
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 1: quarterbacks in the NFL's you step away from it. They

1680
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,960
Speaker 1: run away from it, buy their time and make the throw.

1681
01:21:38,280 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 1: So pressure is only as good as your opposing quarterback

1682
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:49,479
Speaker 1: is immobile. But but coverage is good no matter what,

1683
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 1: even if you know, if they start to go plaster

1684
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 1: and they got to stick with the guy laid in

1685
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: the down. So there, the analytics guys are saying, coverage

1686
01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:01,160
Speaker 1: is more important in today's NFL than than pressure. What

1687
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:04,400
Speaker 1: are you rolling your eyes? Go ahead, Yeah, that's why

1688
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 1: they're analytic. Yeah you gotta do. Look at all you

1689
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: gotta do is look at the money being shelved out

1690
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:11,360
Speaker 1: for the top pass rushers to the NFL in the

1691
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 1: NFL compared to the corners in the NFL. And there's

1692
01:22:14,360 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 1: your answer right there, Steve. And we're going back to

1693
01:22:16,760 --> 01:22:19,519
Speaker 1: what we talked about the Seattle Seattle Super Bowl versus Denver.

1694
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:21,600
Speaker 1: If you look at the very next year, what that

1695
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 1: defensive line did for Denver to win the Super Bowl

1696
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 1: with Von Miller and DeMarcus wearing all the pass rushers

1697
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 1: they had up front. As you see it, at the

1698
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 1: end of the day, pass rushers will get you a championship.

1699
01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:34,360
Speaker 1: It literally took San Francisco's whole team to the Super

1700
01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 1: Bowl along with their run game, but that defensive line

1701
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,639
Speaker 1: in that rotation, they had carried them all the way

1702
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:41,719
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and almost win the Super Bowl.

1703
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:44,200
Speaker 1: And it was the pass rush on that team. That's

1704
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 1: an interesting point. And I'll say this too, not for nothing,

1705
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:51,960
Speaker 1: but there's also an added dimension to the defensive line. Yeah, okay,

1706
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:53,760
Speaker 1: they can rush the passer, that's all. But you know what,

1707
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,760
Speaker 1: there's first and second down too, and those guys gotta

1708
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: those guys gotta bear up and make tackles. They gotta

1709
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,800
Speaker 1: take on double teams. And it's as much. And I

1710
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,960
Speaker 1: remember that my good friend Bruce Smith and people, he's

1711
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 1: got two hundred sacks. I mean, you know, it's out

1712
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 1: of reach, right, It's like it's like the fifty six

1713
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 1: game hitting streak of Joe Demage nobody. Nobody's gonna nobody's

1714
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 1: gonna get nobody's gonna get two hundred sick. But he

1715
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:18,640
Speaker 1: I know this too as a guy who stood on

1716
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:22,360
Speaker 1: the sidelines a lot and watched that guy play. I

1717
01:23:22,439 --> 01:23:24,599
Speaker 1: watched him play a lot of first and second downs,

1718
01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:26,960
Speaker 1: and he was a bear in the run game two.

1719
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:29,839
Speaker 1: He would come down the line and chase the backdown.

1720
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:32,400
Speaker 1: He made tackles for loss in the run game. He

1721
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 1: batted down passes. He of course got sacks, but he

1722
01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 1: was just as effective as a defensive end in a

1723
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:43,840
Speaker 1: three four defense on rundowns as he was a pass

1724
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: rusher on third downs. And I think when you're talking

1725
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 1: about why guys get big money, they got to play

1726
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,639
Speaker 1: both ways. Man. They got to play in the run

1727
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:52,400
Speaker 1: game and they got the run game, and they got

1728
01:23:52,479 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 1: to play be an elite pass rusher as well. That's

1729
01:23:55,240 --> 01:23:57,479
Speaker 1: why they get the big money. And it's a great

1730
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 1: it's a great observation by you saying, you know, that's

1731
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:01,560
Speaker 1: why the guys get big money. It's not just that

1732
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 1: they pass rush, which is important, but they're on. They're on.

1733
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 1: They don't take him off the field on first and

1734
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 1: second down. They're on the they're on the field, and

1735
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: that's that's a huge point about why they get the

1736
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: big money UM as defensive line. That's a hard thing

1737
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 1: to do is to you know, do a win sprint

1738
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,400
Speaker 1: to the quarterback and then also take on two big

1739
01:24:20,479 --> 01:24:22,160
Speaker 1: guys and push them against their will to try to

1740
01:24:22,200 --> 01:24:23,640
Speaker 1: get to a third guy with the ball. That's a

1741
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 1: that's a tough day's work, right, Yeah. And I applied

1742
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,800
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott for doing their research on

1743
01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:32,840
Speaker 1: the guys because they didn't just bring it in pass rushers.

1744
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:35,160
Speaker 1: They got Quinn and Jefferson a guy that can muddy

1745
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,400
Speaker 1: up in there in the run game. Verdon Butler a

1746
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,320
Speaker 1: guy that can muddy up there in the run game.

1747
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,040
Speaker 1: Mario Addison, Yes he gets a lot of sex, but

1748
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 1: he can also play the run game very effectively. And

1749
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 1: you got Trent Murphy on the other side, a guy

1750
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,120
Speaker 1: that has been known to play the run game. And

1751
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes. People talk about his pass rush ability, but

1752
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 1: when I played with him, he was one of the

1753
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,120
Speaker 1: best defensive events playing the run right. And and for

1754
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 1: you to get the big bucks, you can't just run

1755
01:24:57,960 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 1: up the field and go get the quarterback like you said, se,

1756
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,200
Speaker 1: you got to be stouting first and second down and

1757
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: stop the run game, because if you don't, you're not

1758
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:06,600
Speaker 1: gonna get a third and long to be able to

1759
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 1: get after the quarterback. You're not gonna get a second

1760
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 1: and long to get after the quarterback. So I think

1761
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 1: that's something that's lost when they're talking about defensive line play.

1762
01:25:13,320 --> 01:25:15,600
Speaker 1: The guys that have gotten a big bucks that the

1763
01:25:15,720 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 1: Joey Bosas, the Miles Garrett. These guys are stout in

1764
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:22,080
Speaker 1: the run game as well. Hyear have over double digits

1765
01:25:22,120 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 1: when it comes to tackle for losses too. Leiche Doozable,

1766
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:26,800
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker here in One of Bills Live. We've got

1767
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 1: a treat for you coming up after the break. We've

1768
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 1: got Maddie Glab coming up. She's gonna give us a

1769
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:34,080
Speaker 1: full recap of the scrimmage that she watched in the stadium. Today.

1770
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 1: We're broadcasting live from the Cynica Studio. Nothing else comes close.

1771
01:25:38,479 --> 01:25:54,080
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

1772
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with Liche Doozable and co hosting today. We

1773
01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 1: are pleased to be joined on the line by the

1774
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:03,559
Speaker 1: Bill reporter Mattie glab who was out at practice today

1775
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 1: watching the team go and Maddie, how did this How

1776
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 1: did this scrimmage go out the day? What did it

1777
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 1: look like when the Bills were on the field. How

1778
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:13,640
Speaker 1: did they run this scrimmage? Well, first of all, they

1779
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:17,080
Speaker 1: had the entire video board setup, so it was truly

1780
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:21,599
Speaker 1: like a game as close to a game atmosphere as

1781
01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,320
Speaker 1: you could get. Of course, there were no fans in

1782
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,320
Speaker 1: the stands, but I mean the train horn was going

1783
01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 1: on third downs, They had music in between plays, they

1784
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 1: had the playclock going, so they played a first and

1785
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 1: a second quarter. They went through pregame warm ups as well,

1786
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:36,559
Speaker 1: and then they went through a halftime, and then they

1787
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:38,680
Speaker 1: came out and played the first two series of the

1788
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 1: third quarter and then wrapped some things up, did some

1789
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:44,759
Speaker 1: special teams things, and then called it today on practice.

1790
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 1: So it was truly like a dress rehearsal. And this

1791
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:49,240
Speaker 1: is really what Sean McDermott said to the media when

1792
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,160
Speaker 1: he spoke earlier this week was you know, all these

1793
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 1: new players, they need to know how to go through

1794
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 1: a game day here at bill Stadium. They need to

1795
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 1: know where to walk, they need to know where the

1796
01:26:58,960 --> 01:27:01,080
Speaker 1: locker room is, they need to know how we do pregame,

1797
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 1: they need to know how we approach halftime. So all

1798
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:06,600
Speaker 1: the coaches were on headsets and things like that. So

1799
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 1: it was truly getting ready for Week one against the Jets. Well,

1800
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: I know we can't be two imprint and leje. We'll

1801
01:27:15,479 --> 01:27:17,400
Speaker 1: ask the next question. I know we can't be too

1802
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 1: specific about what we saw. What were your impressions about

1803
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:23,040
Speaker 1: how it went out there? I mean, Josh Allen definitely

1804
01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:26,040
Speaker 1: looked great. Matt Barkley also played as well, so it

1805
01:27:26,120 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 1: was Josh and Matt and the two had some really

1806
01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: great drives. Josh started off with a touchdown. I think

1807
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 1: only two drives he didn't score on if I'm correct,

1808
01:27:37,840 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 1: but he was connecting with his receivers, he was connecting

1809
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 1: with his running backs. It was good to see Zach

1810
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 1: Moss and Devin Singletary out there, Gabe Davis, John Brown,

1811
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley. Of course, Steph Diggs was not at practice today.

1812
01:27:52,880 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: He was out today with low back soreness, which is

1813
01:27:55,000 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 1: what Sean McDermott said before the scrimmage started. But some

1814
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 1: impressive things from some of these younger players like Gabe

1815
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:04,719
Speaker 1: Davis and Zach Moss and then of course it's great

1816
01:28:04,760 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 1: to see Cole and John Brown still link up on

1817
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:12,360
Speaker 1: that passing game, timing that is so important for Josh

1818
01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:15,280
Speaker 1: to get downpad even with his second year receivers. I mean,

1819
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 1: it would have been great to see Steph digged out

1820
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:20,360
Speaker 1: there to see where the timing and connection is at

1821
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:23,200
Speaker 1: with those two. But to see that Cole and John

1822
01:28:23,320 --> 01:28:26,160
Speaker 1: are making strides in the right direction in terms of

1823
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:30,360
Speaker 1: chemistry entering your second year together with Josh Allen, that

1824
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:34,720
Speaker 1: was all very reassuring of what this season can be,

1825
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,680
Speaker 1: of what this offense can look like. And hey, they

1826
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 1: were going up against a really talented defense and they

1827
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,439
Speaker 1: found a way to get in the end zone multiple times.

1828
01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 1: Josh had two passing touchdowns, a rushing touchdown himself, and

1829
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,240
Speaker 1: then Zach Moss was able to have a rushing touchdown

1830
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 1: as well, So all good things are. An offensive and

1831
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,439
Speaker 1: defensive line also brought some great pressure today too, so

1832
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 1: the two were battling it out and this is what

1833
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:02,720
Speaker 1: I can hide and Jordan Poyer said when it came

1834
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,200
Speaker 1: to competition in this camp, as those two are entering

1835
01:29:05,240 --> 01:29:07,680
Speaker 1: their fourth year with the Bills, and this has been

1836
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 1: the most competitive camp yet and Hyde was alluding to

1837
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: the fact that this offense has really progressed since he's

1838
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:18,840
Speaker 1: entered the team. I mean, the pieces that are there

1839
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 1: now on offense, they weren't there the last three years.

1840
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 1: They keep adding to this offense and now you have

1841
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,519
Speaker 1: something that looks basically whole now. Brandon Bean will say,

1842
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 1: the puzzle is never done. There's always new pieces that

1843
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,000
Speaker 1: can go into this puzzle to make a better team.

1844
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:37,040
Speaker 1: But you're seeing the looks of something that is pretty

1845
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:39,560
Speaker 1: consistent and that can have a lot of success. I

1846
01:29:39,760 --> 01:29:44,479
Speaker 1: think this season. Hey, Matty, speaking of Gabe Davis, I've

1847
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 1: seen a lot of clips on social media from the

1848
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 1: Bills website of him making some really good catches. What

1849
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:51,800
Speaker 1: have you seen from the rookie that stands him apart

1850
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:53,680
Speaker 1: from everybody else. I've heard a lot of good things

1851
01:29:53,720 --> 01:29:57,280
Speaker 1: about Gabe Davis and training camp so far. I think

1852
01:29:57,560 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 1: one of the things that I was most impressed by,

1853
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:02,479
Speaker 1: just right off the bat his first press conference that

1854
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 1: he did with the media when he got drafted, just

1855
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 1: the confidence that he has in himself, and he called

1856
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 1: it a quiet confidence. This is a guy that wants

1857
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 1: to be as humble as possible, Yes, as a rookie.

1858
01:30:15,040 --> 01:30:17,599
Speaker 1: You're coming and you're trying to learn things. You're trying

1859
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:21,880
Speaker 1: to take criticism, teaching from veteran players. You're not trying to,

1860
01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:25,080
Speaker 1: you know, swag out too much there as a rookie.

1861
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:28,640
Speaker 1: But he came in and he knew I can be

1862
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:31,960
Speaker 1: whatever receiver you want me to be. I know how

1863
01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,080
Speaker 1: to run the route tree, I know how to line

1864
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 1: up in different spots. This is what I did at UCF.

1865
01:30:37,320 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 1: He was able to make it into the record books

1866
01:30:39,720 --> 01:30:44,040
Speaker 1: for three different categories at UCF and scored twenty three

1867
01:30:44,160 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 1: touchdowns there. He averaged sixteen point one yards per catch,

1868
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:50,559
Speaker 1: I believe in his career. So this is your big

1869
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 1: play receiver, but this is somebody who can also be

1870
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 1: quite versatile in this offense. He's not only a deep threat.

1871
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 1: He can be totally more than that. And he's shown

1872
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:03,920
Speaker 1: that in camp. And I think one thing that also

1873
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 1: stands out about him is his size. He's he's six feet,

1874
01:31:07,479 --> 01:31:10,320
Speaker 1: which you love to see because this receiving corps last

1875
01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 1: year was a little bit smaller than that. You bring

1876
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:16,160
Speaker 1: Steph Diggs, and you bring Gabriel Davison, you bring Isaiah

1877
01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:18,880
Speaker 1: hodgens in and you grow a little bit. Of course,

1878
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:21,280
Speaker 1: you have your tight ends who are taller, but the

1879
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:24,639
Speaker 1: way that Gabriel Davis plays that wide receiver position, he's

1880
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: also a really tough wide receiver. He's that guy that

1881
01:31:27,439 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 1: can get you some yak yards. He's a guy that's

1882
01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:33,479
Speaker 1: going to go up and try his best to make

1883
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 1: any contested catch. And you could see that not only

1884
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:39,880
Speaker 1: in his height, but how big he is as well.

1885
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 1: He's a more muscular receiver and he can go up

1886
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 1: against the true Davious White. He can go up against

1887
01:31:45,640 --> 01:31:49,400
Speaker 1: a Jordan Poyer and a Micah Hyde and and try

1888
01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:51,800
Speaker 1: and make a name for himself. And he has done

1889
01:31:51,840 --> 01:31:54,720
Speaker 1: that in camp so far, going up against some of

1890
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 1: the best corners, the best secondary in the league and

1891
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:02,120
Speaker 1: having success time to time. Mattie talked a little bit

1892
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:05,479
Speaker 1: about what you've noticed from other rookies like Zach Moss.

1893
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 1: You mentioned he and Devin Singletary in the game. Did

1894
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:14,360
Speaker 1: Zack Moss play up to expectations? Is he entrenched just

1895
01:32:14,439 --> 01:32:17,680
Speaker 1: the number two guy he is? He? I don't want to,

1896
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, we're not going to talk about depth charg

1897
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 1: or anything, but did he play and how did he

1898
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 1: play and what did he look like? Did he did

1899
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:25,720
Speaker 1: he carry the ball at all? Yeah, He and Devin

1900
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:29,160
Speaker 1: Singletary played quite a bit and it's it's gonna be

1901
01:32:29,240 --> 01:32:32,280
Speaker 1: really interesting to see how they use both of these

1902
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 1: players in the offense once football kicks off. I think

1903
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:39,200
Speaker 1: that they can be used interchangeably based on what they

1904
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:42,000
Speaker 1: can offer. They have very similar skill sets but also

1905
01:32:42,080 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 1: some different things that separate each other. I think you

1906
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 1: look at Zach Moss as being that guy who can

1907
01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:51,040
Speaker 1: get you those tough short yards, but don't judge them

1908
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 1: just based on that, because this is a running back

1909
01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 1: who can be a pass catching running back as well,

1910
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,360
Speaker 1: and he's shown that time after time after time this

1911
01:32:58,520 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 1: training camp and in today scrimmage. Just like Devin Singletary

1912
01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:04,640
Speaker 1: can catch the ball, Zack Moss can too. And I

1913
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:08,559
Speaker 1: think when you have two running backs who offer something

1914
01:33:08,720 --> 01:33:11,960
Speaker 1: very similar but also different at the same time, this

1915
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 1: can make your offense grow even more. And to have

1916
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:18,560
Speaker 1: a rookie be able to do that, I think that

1917
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,840
Speaker 1: says a lot about him as a player. Coming out

1918
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:24,240
Speaker 1: of Utah he scored thirty eight touchdowns, but I think

1919
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:26,880
Speaker 1: it also says a lot about Brian day Ball and

1920
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:30,680
Speaker 1: how they truly work this offense around their players and

1921
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 1: around what their players have to offer. I'm excited to

1922
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:37,599
Speaker 1: see Zach Moss this season because I certainly think he's

1923
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:39,880
Speaker 1: going to be used in this offense based on what

1924
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 1: he's shown in the short two weeks that we've gotten

1925
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 1: to see him during training camp. Maddie, we had a

1926
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 1: Twitter pool earlier today asking who is going to have

1927
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:51,680
Speaker 1: the biggest impact the secondary or the defensive line, and

1928
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:53,920
Speaker 1: I picked the defensive line just because of all the

1929
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 1: depth that has been added this offseason, and they seemed

1930
01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 1: like Twitter agree with me. What did you see from

1931
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 1: the defensive line. I'm really interested to see how my

1932
01:34:00,960 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 1: old friend Jerry Hughes, coming back from the growing surgery,

1933
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:06,120
Speaker 1: looked in the skrimmage today, and also pairing him with

1934
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:09,280
Speaker 1: Mario Addison. How did the defensive line look and did

1935
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:12,760
Speaker 1: that debt really show during the skrimmage today? Yeah, the

1936
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:15,280
Speaker 1: defensive line did bring pressure today. That's one thing that

1937
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:18,120
Speaker 1: I would take away from the defense. Siran Neil had

1938
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 1: an interception, but the defensive line had quite a few sacks.

1939
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:25,400
Speaker 1: Mike Love had two sacks, Jerry Hughes had a sack.

1940
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,080
Speaker 1: So they were bringing that pressure and I think it

1941
01:34:28,200 --> 01:34:30,400
Speaker 1: starts up front. Of course, the game is one in

1942
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:33,480
Speaker 1: the trenches, but I think the pressure that the defensive

1943
01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:36,640
Speaker 1: line brings is really going to alleviate some stress for

1944
01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 1: that secondary, for the corners, for Micah Hyde, for Jordan Poyer.

1945
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:43,559
Speaker 1: It really has to do with the front seven there,

1946
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:45,920
Speaker 1: and truly with the front four, and with the way

1947
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,719
Speaker 1: they want to attack an offense and an offensive line.

1948
01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:52,519
Speaker 1: A defensive cordinary Leslie Fraser has said multiple times, we

1949
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,519
Speaker 1: want to get after the quarterback more this season. They

1950
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 1: did do it last season, but I think they want

1951
01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:59,240
Speaker 1: to bring it to the next level. And you bring

1952
01:34:59,360 --> 01:35:02,799
Speaker 1: a defensive line coach, and like Eric Washington, who ranked

1953
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:05,519
Speaker 1: in the top ten in sacks when he was at

1954
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:08,519
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers five out of the seven seasons that

1955
01:35:08,680 --> 01:35:10,800
Speaker 1: he was there, This is a guy who who's going

1956
01:35:10,840 --> 01:35:13,000
Speaker 1: to be able to teach his defensive lineman how to

1957
01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:16,639
Speaker 1: get after the quarterback at a crazy rate and really

1958
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:20,920
Speaker 1: affect the offense. I think we saw that today from

1959
01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 1: the defensive line, not from the guys who are going

1960
01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 1: to play you know, a bulk of the snaps maybe,

1961
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 1: but you saw it from pretty much every defensive lineman.

1962
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:33,720
Speaker 1: I mean the scrimmage starts with Josh Allen throwing a

1963
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:37,760
Speaker 1: pass that's tipped by Darryl Johnson. It's great to see

1964
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:42,160
Speaker 1: everyone in that defensive line room make an impact, and

1965
01:35:42,240 --> 01:35:45,160
Speaker 1: that's what they did today. And Jerry Hughes said, you know,

1966
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:48,760
Speaker 1: it just makes every one of us better to see

1967
01:35:49,439 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 1: from me to a rookie, to a new guy who's

1968
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 1: brought on in free agency, to someone who is here

1969
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 1: last year, all affect the passer. I see a lot

1970
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 1: out of this group this year, and it's really going

1971
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:05,000
Speaker 1: to be fun to watch how they interchange and how

1972
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 1: they switch positions from the one to the three, to

1973
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,960
Speaker 1: the nose to the five. I mean, these guys can

1974
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 1: pretty much play in every single position, and that's what

1975
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,880
Speaker 1: Eric Washington and Leslie Frasier wants out of them, is

1976
01:36:16,920 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 1: to be able to shift at a moment's notice, to

1977
01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:23,760
Speaker 1: wear out an offensive line over the course of a game.

1978
01:36:24,280 --> 01:36:28,479
Speaker 1: Last one, Mattie, is there anybody who's a surprise in

1979
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:31,880
Speaker 1: today's scrimmage? You would either played well or I know

1980
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:35,800
Speaker 1: the usual suspects, But is there anybody that surprised you, like, hey, wow,

1981
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:38,160
Speaker 1: look at that guy? Anybody like that? Or is there

1982
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:40,559
Speaker 1: a short list of players who when you think back

1983
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 1: about what you saw today, those are the guys you're

1984
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:47,880
Speaker 1: going to talk about. They ended the scrimmage the way

1985
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,639
Speaker 1: that they ended the scrimmage with Josh Allen's last series.

1986
01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:54,360
Speaker 1: Now Matt Barkley truly ended the scrimmage, but the first

1987
01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:58,519
Speaker 1: series of the third quarter to end the drive, they

1988
01:36:58,600 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 1: had three straight pass to Andre Roberts. All were connections,

1989
01:37:03,160 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 1: and that third one was a touchdown, So that's not

1990
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:09,600
Speaker 1: necessarily surprised to me, but I like to see that

1991
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 1: they are trying to fold him into this offense. This

1992
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,639
Speaker 1: is the reason why Andre Roberts wanted to come play

1993
01:37:14,680 --> 01:37:17,479
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills in the beginning, was to be

1994
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:20,519
Speaker 1: able to prove that he can also play a role

1995
01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:23,600
Speaker 1: on the offense from a wide receiver standpoint. He's not

1996
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:26,559
Speaker 1: only just a return or Yes, he's a pro bowler

1997
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 1: and he's a great returner, but he wants to be

1998
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:31,080
Speaker 1: more than just that, and I think this team is

1999
01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 1: giving him the opportunities to do that. In practice, a

2000
01:37:34,880 --> 01:37:38,679
Speaker 1: couple days ago, he had an amazing touchdown reception diving

2001
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 1: into the end zone tightly covered, and today he scored

2002
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:45,720
Speaker 1: a touchdown as well, and caught three straight passes, So

2003
01:37:46,160 --> 01:37:48,920
Speaker 1: it's great to see something like that from him, especially

2004
01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:53,040
Speaker 1: when he's getting used towards the end of what a

2005
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:55,439
Speaker 1: scrimmage or a game would be in a third quarter.

2006
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:58,559
Speaker 1: So happy for Andre. I hope they find a way

2007
01:37:58,600 --> 01:38:01,160
Speaker 1: to work him into this office fence this season, as

2008
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:04,360
Speaker 1: they did a little bit last year as well. Mattie, thanks,

2009
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. I'm glad you got a chance to

2010
01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 1: least see some real football for a change in an

2011
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:12,040
Speaker 1: extended way. Appreciate it, and thanks for coming into talking

2012
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:14,960
Speaker 1: to us. Yeah, of course, thanks for having me, guys,

2013
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 1: all right, Steve Tasker, Lejay Doozable coming back at you

2014
01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:21,919
Speaker 1: after the Break. Chris Trepasso from NFL Draft and analyst

2015
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 1: for CBS Sports. He's also a Western New York native.

2016
01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:28,240
Speaker 1: You can follow Chris de Prasso on at Chris Trepasso

2017
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 1: dot at Chris Depasso on Twitter, and you can come

2018
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 1: back and visit with us after the After the Break.

2019
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:38,720
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker, Lja Doozable coming back after the Break, One

2020
01:38:38,760 --> 01:38:41,280
Speaker 1: Bills Live presented by Kalida Health on Buffalo Bills Radio.

2021
01:38:53,840 --> 01:38:56,679
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Steve Tasker Lijay Doozable

2022
01:38:57,160 --> 01:38:59,439
Speaker 1: co hosting today. We are pleased to be joined on

2023
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:05,400
Speaker 1: the line now by cscbssports dot com draft analyst Chris Trapozzo.

2024
01:39:05,479 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 1: He's a Western New York native lives north of Buffalo

2025
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:12,000
Speaker 1: even now, so we're happy to have Chris on the line. Chris,

2026
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:14,000
Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. First of all, how are you

2027
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 1: doing during the pandemics? Everybody's safe and well, yeah, everything's

2028
01:39:18,040 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 1: doing good. And thanks for having me. Guys, Yeah, no worries.

2029
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 1: And one of the reasons we had you on, I

2030
01:39:22,120 --> 01:39:24,200
Speaker 1: know you're a Western New York native, so you know

2031
01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:26,360
Speaker 1: you've got neighbors to think about. So if you don't

2032
01:39:26,360 --> 01:39:28,559
Speaker 1: say things nice about the Buffalo Bills, you know you're

2033
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:31,719
Speaker 1: gonna get tped or something. You know, But you didn't

2034
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 1: come out with three bold predictions on CBS sports dot

2035
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:38,320
Speaker 1: Com about the Buffalo Bills, and one of them I

2036
01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 1: let's go right to it. I don't want to laugh

2037
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:42,719
Speaker 1: when I say it, because I know your timeline's gonna

2038
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:46,240
Speaker 1: go crazy when you but you had bold prediction number

2039
01:39:46,280 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 1: one is that you think Josh Allen could be an

2040
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:52,800
Speaker 1: NFL MVP candidate. Explain your logic, because I said it

2041
01:39:52,920 --> 01:39:57,360
Speaker 1: myself today, independent of your article. Go ahead, Yeah, I

2042
01:39:57,439 --> 01:39:59,600
Speaker 1: think it's really all aligning for him. I mean with

2043
01:39:59,720 --> 01:40:02,479
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, since he was a prospect coming out of Wyoming,

2044
01:40:02,880 --> 01:40:06,320
Speaker 1: there were so many comparisons to Cam Newton, and it

2045
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:08,680
Speaker 1: didn't happen until year five for Cam Newton. But you

2046
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 1: look at the similarities not just between those two quarterbacks,

2047
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:16,160
Speaker 1: but the teams that year. In twenty fifteen, the Carolina

2048
01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:18,840
Speaker 1: Panthers had the second best defense in the league. Cam

2049
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:21,880
Speaker 1: Newton didn't even complete sixty percent of his passes and

2050
01:40:22,000 --> 01:40:25,600
Speaker 1: he combined for forty five total touchdowns. So even if

2051
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen doesn't reach sixty two sixty three percent completion

2052
01:40:29,880 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 1: and he improves from the twenty nine total touchdowns where

2053
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:35,800
Speaker 1: he was last season, and the Bills are winning a

2054
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:37,759
Speaker 1: lot of games, They're going to have a strong defense,

2055
01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen's weapons being a lot better than what

2056
01:40:41,640 --> 01:40:44,040
Speaker 1: Cam Newton had to throw to in that MVP season.

2057
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:46,519
Speaker 1: I think of any year, this is the one where

2058
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:50,040
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, maybe it won't be the best individual passing

2059
01:40:50,160 --> 01:40:52,360
Speaker 1: quarterback in the league, but what he can do with

2060
01:40:52,600 --> 01:40:56,160
Speaker 1: dual threat and what this defense will help this offense

2061
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:57,880
Speaker 1: and the Bills are going to win a lot more games.

2062
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:03,360
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be in the running latency. Yeah,

2063
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I think it lines up

2064
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 1: that way. And I've said this before. One of the

2065
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 1: reasons Cam Newton was so effective in twenty fifteen for

2066
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers is that whenever they got into a

2067
01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:17,920
Speaker 1: third down and very short or a fourth down and

2068
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 1: very short, you got a big quarterback like that, he

2069
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:24,200
Speaker 1: turns into the absolute best short yardage running back in

2070
01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:26,439
Speaker 1: the National Football League. He's got the ball in his hands,

2071
01:41:26,479 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 1: he can either throw it or run it if they

2072
01:41:29,320 --> 01:41:32,639
Speaker 1: fall forward or quarterback sneak it. It's just it makes

2073
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 1: your offense a first down machine in those situations, and

2074
01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:39,400
Speaker 1: you get a lot of those during the regular season.

2075
01:41:39,479 --> 01:41:41,679
Speaker 1: If you win all of them because of your quarterbacks

2076
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 1: ability to run it, it puts you in a position

2077
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:45,760
Speaker 1: to win a lot more games and score a lot

2078
01:41:45,880 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 1: more points. I think that's exactly what happened to Cam Newton.

2079
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:50,880
Speaker 1: And we've seen it in spurts and spits and starts

2080
01:41:50,920 --> 01:41:55,360
Speaker 1: here with Josh Allen in that role. Yeah, and really

2081
01:41:55,479 --> 01:41:59,120
Speaker 1: that season, Cam Newton had ten rushing touchdowns Josh Allen

2082
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:02,040
Speaker 1: had nine rushing touchdowns last year, So even if he

2083
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 1: doesn't throw thirty five touchdown passes like Cam Newton had

2084
01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:07,640
Speaker 1: that year, it's not out of the run possibility that

2085
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:11,040
Speaker 1: Josh Allen is a double digit producer in terms of

2086
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:13,840
Speaker 1: touchdowns on the ground. And I don't think the Bills

2087
01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:15,799
Speaker 1: are going to go fifteen and one like that Panthers

2088
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,160
Speaker 1: team did. But if the Bills win the division for

2089
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:20,880
Speaker 1: the first time in over twenty years, Josh Allen has

2090
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:23,639
Speaker 1: a pretty steady season, he will be in the running

2091
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:28,200
Speaker 1: for the NFL MVP in December. Yeah, Chris and the

2092
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:30,800
Speaker 1: Bills team, as everybody knows, it's only gonna go far

2093
01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:34,560
Speaker 1: as far as Josh Allen arm takes them. But I

2094
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:37,640
Speaker 1: really agree with you and staying that Cam Newton won

2095
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 1: the MVP didn't even complete sixty percent of his passes. Well,

2096
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:42,800
Speaker 1: if Josh Allen can rides that raised his percentage to

2097
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:46,960
Speaker 1: maybe sixty five and get what twenty five throwing touchdowns

2098
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:49,720
Speaker 1: and get double digit, you know, wrestling touchdowns, who's to

2099
01:42:49,800 --> 01:42:53,640
Speaker 1: say he couldn't be in that conversation for MVP. Like

2100
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,959
Speaker 1: Steve alluded to, when in short yardage there's no better

2101
01:42:57,080 --> 01:43:00,280
Speaker 1: back in NFL right now, probably besides Cam New then

2102
01:43:00,400 --> 01:43:03,479
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, because the body frame is very similar. When

2103
01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:05,920
Speaker 1: you get down into that low red zone and it's

2104
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:08,200
Speaker 1: second and two and second and goal, you know that

2105
01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's getting the ball and it's not many defenders

2106
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:13,080
Speaker 1: because of his body frame, they could stop him from

2107
01:43:13,080 --> 01:43:15,040
Speaker 1: getting those teschdowns. So I kind of agree with you

2108
01:43:15,160 --> 01:43:17,479
Speaker 1: he could sneak in there and be an MVP candidate

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Speaker 1: just because of his size. If he can work on

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Speaker 1: that ancoracy and raising up to maybe sixty five percent

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Speaker 1: and throw about twenty five touchdowns, raise that up by

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Speaker 1: like five, and throw for maybe thirty five hundred yards

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Speaker 1: or four thousand yards, then this guy could definitely be

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Speaker 1: in the conversation. Yeah. He also said that in your

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Speaker 1: Bold Predictions about Tremaine Edmonds, you think he's gonna take

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Speaker 1: a step forward and be an All Pro linebacker this year.

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Speaker 1: And I think there's a lot of people in Western

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Speaker 1: New York who would agree with you. Tremaine Edmonds is

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Speaker 1: somebody we've liked since the day he walked onto the

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Speaker 1: field for the Buffalo Bills. I think he's gonna make

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01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:52,800
Speaker 1: a name for himself as the years go by, that's

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01:43:52,840 --> 01:43:54,600
Speaker 1: gonna grow bigger and bigger the guy. I think this

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Speaker 1: could be the year that Tremaine Edmonds goes on to

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01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:02,479
Speaker 1: collective consciousness of the nation about middle line in the NFL. Well, yeah,

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01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:04,719
Speaker 1: I mean six foot five, over two hundred and fifty

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01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:07,000
Speaker 1: pounds with four or five four speed. I mean he's

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01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:10,360
Speaker 1: built like a tight end. And in year two, watching

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01:44:10,439 --> 01:44:13,080
Speaker 1: the film from twenty nineteen, just in season and then

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01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 1: going back after the year, I thought the game slowed

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01:44:16,400 --> 01:44:19,000
Speaker 1: down for him a bit, that he was diagnosing plays

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01:44:19,040 --> 01:44:22,760
Speaker 1: a little bit quicker, defeating blockers in traffic against the run,

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01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:27,400
Speaker 1: twenty one pass breakups in his first two seasons, and

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Speaker 1: he's entering year three. In Sean McDermott's defense, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: Lejay can talk about the value of playing in the

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01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:37,920
Speaker 1: same defense over and over again. Just what that does

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01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 1: to reading your keys, knowing where to be a line,

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01:44:40,240 --> 01:44:43,160
Speaker 1: knowing where you need to be when the ball is snapped.

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01:44:43,479 --> 01:44:45,320
Speaker 1: And he's only twenty two years old, so he's at

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01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 1: the height of his athletic prime. He's put up big

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01:44:48,439 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 1: numbers but has been slightly inconsistent. This year I think

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01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:54,280
Speaker 1: is the one where it's not that he's just a

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01:44:54,360 --> 01:44:57,040
Speaker 1: good linebacker, but he's one of the best linebackers in

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Speaker 1: the entire NFL. Yeah yeah, Chris love this Bowl prediction

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01:45:01,080 --> 01:45:03,240
Speaker 1: because he's actually one of my favorite Bills on the team.

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01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:04,880
Speaker 1: A guy that is so young, it has so much

2146
01:45:04,920 --> 01:45:07,719
Speaker 1: potential made the Pro Bowl. I could see him taking

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01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 1: that next step to making the All Pro because more

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01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 1: and more people will start watching Buffalo Bills games because

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01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:15,000
Speaker 1: they made the playoff front last year. I think that

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01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:16,840
Speaker 1: may have hurt him the last two years. You know,

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01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:19,720
Speaker 1: a lot of people besides Western New York hadn't really

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01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 1: tuned into as much Buffalo Bills football, but I think

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01:45:22,880 --> 01:45:24,960
Speaker 1: more and more people will because they are slated to

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01:45:25,080 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 1: win the AFCAS. What is it about Edmunds besides his

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01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 1: size and athletic ability. I mean, you said it, twenty

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01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:33,800
Speaker 1: one pass breakups, which is crazy for a linebacker. What

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01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 1: is it that separates him from a lot of other

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01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 1: linebackers in the league. It's the fact that he can cover.

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01:45:39,240 --> 01:45:42,759
Speaker 1: I think for the history of the NFL, there's been big, powerful,

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01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:46,200
Speaker 1: fast linebackers that all can play downhill. Some of them

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01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:50,000
Speaker 1: of the greats are very rangy, great run defenders. But

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01:45:50,080 --> 01:45:52,439
Speaker 1: in the modern day NFL, you have to be good

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01:45:52,479 --> 01:45:55,639
Speaker 1: in coverage. I think Tremaine Edmunds and Matt Mulano together

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01:45:55,920 --> 01:46:00,080
Speaker 1: formulate the best coverage linebacker unit in the NFL. If

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Speaker 1: you're getting your hands on the football down the field,

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01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:06,280
Speaker 1: getting interceptions, breaking up passes. That's what these voters will

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01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:09,040
Speaker 1: see at the end of the season if you see ten, twelve,

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01:46:09,520 --> 01:46:13,599
Speaker 1: fifteen pass breakups at the linebacker position. At six foot five,

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01:46:13,680 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 1: with that huge wingspan and his ability to run with

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Speaker 1: tight ends down the team, I think that's what kind

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01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:22,080
Speaker 1: of separates him from other good linebackers in the league.

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01:46:22,120 --> 01:46:24,840
Speaker 1: That maybe he doesn't make as many plays against the run,

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01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:27,120
Speaker 1: but you need to be good in coverage at the

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Speaker 1: linebacker's fine. Today's NFL we're with cbssports dot COM's Chris Trapasso.

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01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:34,160
Speaker 1: Three Bold Predictions for the Buffalo Bills is his article.

2176
01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:37,479
Speaker 1: You can go on in and CBS sports dot Com

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01:46:37,640 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 1: and read it for yourself. But the third bold prediction

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01:46:40,520 --> 01:46:42,680
Speaker 1: is one that I you know, I kind of I

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01:46:42,840 --> 01:46:44,599
Speaker 1: hope this one's right, and this is the Bills win

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01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:47,040
Speaker 1: a playoff game for the first time since nineteen ninety five.

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01:46:47,960 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 1: I was in the nineteen ninety five game. That's how

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01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:53,439
Speaker 1: long ago it was. I mean, it's been a long

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01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:57,720
Speaker 1: long time since the Bills have had postseason success, and

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01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:00,800
Speaker 1: you think this may be the first year for it. Yeah,

2185
01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 1: because I do think that the Bills are going to

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01:47:02,600 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 1: win the AFC East this season, which of course would

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01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:08,080
Speaker 1: guarantee them the whole playoff game. And regardless of what

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01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 1: seed they are, if they're one of the top seeds,

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01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 1: if they're the three, if they're the four, if you

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01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:14,960
Speaker 1: look at their roster and you look at the rest

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01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:18,320
Speaker 1: of the AFC, I think anyone would agree. The Kansas

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01:47:18,360 --> 01:47:20,040
Speaker 1: City Chiefs and the Ravens are kind of in their

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01:47:20,080 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 1: own territory. But after that, I think the Bills have

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01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 1: the best overall roster in the AFC. So whichever team,

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01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:29,479
Speaker 1: whether it be a five seat six seed or that

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01:47:29,600 --> 01:47:32,000
Speaker 1: new seventh seed coming into play the Bills, they're not

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01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 1: going to be as deep on defense. They're not going

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01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:37,160
Speaker 1: to have the weapons that the Bills have at wide receiver,

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01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 1: the two headed monster of Devin Singletary and Zach Moss

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01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:44,120
Speaker 1: in the backfield and Josh Allen. So I expect, whether

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Speaker 1: we have fans or not, that the Bills will just

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01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:49,639
Speaker 1: be the better, more well rounded team in that game

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01:47:50,520 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 1: and just be enough and just have enough talent from

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01:47:53,560 --> 01:47:55,840
Speaker 1: top to bottom, all fifty three men on that roster

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01:47:55,960 --> 01:47:59,240
Speaker 1: to win at least one playoff game this year. Yeah, Chris,

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01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:02,160
Speaker 1: I agree with at for one, because I do see

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01:48:02,200 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 1: them winning the AFC East and whether there's fans in there,

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01:48:05,240 --> 01:48:07,519
Speaker 1: if Bill Mafia is in there or not. Playing a

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01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:10,880
Speaker 1: game in January at Orchard Park is not gonna be

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01:48:11,000 --> 01:48:13,400
Speaker 1: fun for a visiting team. So if the Bills do

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01:48:13,520 --> 01:48:16,120
Speaker 1: what they're supposed to do, there's a lot of expectations.

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01:48:16,439 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 1: And last year they had a bad taste in their

2213
01:48:18,040 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 1: mouth for losing that game where a lot of people

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01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:21,840
Speaker 1: felt they should have won that game. First Houston in

2215
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:24,240
Speaker 1: the playoffs, if they go out, take care of business,

2216
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:27,240
Speaker 1: get to the three or four seed, and host a

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01:48:27,400 --> 01:48:30,920
Speaker 1: game in New York in January. Any team traveling to

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01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:33,479
Speaker 1: New York is gonna be a struggle for them playing

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01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:36,640
Speaker 1: with that link effect snow most likely around January. And

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01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 1: one of the last things we got to talk to

2221
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:40,599
Speaker 1: you about is obviously training camp. The Bill Flow. Bills

2222
01:48:40,640 --> 01:48:43,599
Speaker 1: have some position battles. They are a deep and talented roster,

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01:48:43,680 --> 01:48:46,200
Speaker 1: They've got some incumbents in place, no question, but there's

2224
01:48:46,240 --> 01:48:49,799
Speaker 1: a spot on this defense number two cornerback behind Turdea

2225
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:53,840
Speaker 1: or aside from or across from Turdavias White. Also the

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01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:57,320
Speaker 1: third linebacker. Who's gonna what's the wide receiver corps gonna

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01:48:57,360 --> 01:49:01,360
Speaker 1: look like? After those first three guys, you edge rusher.

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01:49:01,360 --> 01:49:03,559
Speaker 1: Who's going to be that top guy that goes opposite

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01:49:03,640 --> 01:49:05,760
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes. What are some of the most interesting things

2230
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:09,439
Speaker 1: you see about the position battles for the Bills? Well,

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01:49:09,479 --> 01:49:11,800
Speaker 1: I think going into camp it was definitely the number

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01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 1: two cornerback because that was probably the weakest area of

2233
01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:18,400
Speaker 1: this roster after having the All Pro in Tradavious White.

2234
01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 1: After Josh Norman got injured, though, I think that's gonna

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01:49:21,280 --> 01:49:23,080
Speaker 1: be le By Wallace's job and he's going to hold

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01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 1: onto that position for most of the season. To me,

2237
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:31,679
Speaker 1: the most impactful player would be that backup or depth

2238
01:49:31,880 --> 01:49:35,160
Speaker 1: edge rusher behind Jerry Hughes. Is it Trent Murphy, Is

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01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:38,240
Speaker 1: it Mario Addison who has thirty nine sacks over the

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01:49:38,320 --> 01:49:40,600
Speaker 1: last four seasons. Is it aj Epanessa or is he

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01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:43,919
Speaker 1: mostly play inside. I'm really intrigued to see who emerges

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01:49:43,960 --> 01:49:46,760
Speaker 1: out of training camp at that adge rusher spot, who's

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01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:48,680
Speaker 1: the number two and the number three player, because we

2244
01:49:48,880 --> 01:49:51,800
Speaker 1: know Sean McDermott like to really rotate a lot of

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01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:54,679
Speaker 1: his players, and then certainly that number four wide receiver.

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01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 1: I think that's a fascinating training camp battle. I don't

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01:49:58,160 --> 01:49:59,439
Speaker 1: know how much that player is going to be on

2248
01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:02,679
Speaker 1: the field given the Bills top three at the receiver group,

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01:50:03,080 --> 01:50:05,439
Speaker 1: but some positions on defense and that wide receiver spot

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Speaker 1: on offense. Yeah, definitely, I would have to agree with

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01:50:08,680 --> 01:50:12,479
Speaker 1: you and say the opposite position across the field from

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01:50:12,560 --> 01:50:15,680
Speaker 1: Tradevious White had to be you know, going into camp,

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01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:17,679
Speaker 1: that had to be the biggest concern in the battle,

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01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:19,920
Speaker 1: and with Josh Norman getting hurt like you said, and

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01:50:20,160 --> 01:50:22,960
Speaker 1: with so limited time, I really feel like Levi Wallace

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01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:25,479
Speaker 1: does have the upperhand and getting that job. But I

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01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:28,000
Speaker 1: really like what you said about the defensive line. To me,

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01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:30,720
Speaker 1: I think Mario Addison is a sure fire number two

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01:50:30,760 --> 01:50:33,320
Speaker 1: across from Jerry Hughes. We talked about this earlier in

2260
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:35,759
Speaker 1: the show. I can't remember the last time the Buffalo

2261
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:38,439
Speaker 1: Bills had two book ends. You probably have to go

2262
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:41,360
Speaker 1: back to twenty fourteen when Jerry Hughes and Mario Williams.

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01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:43,439
Speaker 1: Were there two guys that you know that can get

2264
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:46,080
Speaker 1: over eight sacks each year? And you stayed at al

2265
01:50:46,160 --> 01:50:49,200
Speaker 1: Ay Mario Addison has almost had forty sacks going back

2266
01:50:49,240 --> 01:50:52,240
Speaker 1: the last fourth season, which is very high in production.

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01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:54,559
Speaker 1: A lot of ends are can't really say that they've

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01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 1: done that. So that and then just the depth of

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01:50:57,160 --> 01:51:00,280
Speaker 1: the defensive line. Who emerges out in you know as

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01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:02,600
Speaker 1: the second team, will it be a jampanez. I know

2271
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:05,080
Speaker 1: they've been moving them up and down the defensive line,

2272
01:51:05,479 --> 01:51:08,800
Speaker 1: will check reverybody the third defensive and also inside you

2273
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:11,240
Speaker 1: brought in Quentin Jefferson, but you still have your your

2274
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:13,920
Speaker 1: first round picking at Oliver and you bring in Vernon Butler,

2275
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:16,719
Speaker 1: a former first round pick who's gonna be the third

2276
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:19,320
Speaker 1: and fourth d tackle. And as you know, you gotta

2277
01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 1: have a defensive line that can get after the quarterback

2278
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:24,760
Speaker 1: and you got to be able to send them in waves. Chris,

2279
01:51:25,000 --> 01:51:27,280
Speaker 1: thanks so much for joining us. We appreciate you and

2280
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 1: for all of you out there. You can catch tri

2281
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:33,639
Speaker 1: Chris Trapasso on cbssports dot com. Chris, have a great

2282
01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:36,559
Speaker 1: day and thanks for coming on all right, guys, Thanks

2283
01:51:36,920 --> 01:51:39,760
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker Leje Doozible coming back right after the break.

2284
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:42,360
Speaker 1: We're gonna have some post practice sound from Jerry Hughes

2285
01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:46,920
Speaker 1: and Devin Singletary. Next on One Bill's Live broadcasting live

2286
01:51:47,320 --> 01:52:04,160
Speaker 1: from the Seneca Studios. Nothing else comes close. Welcome back

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01:52:04,200 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 1: to one of those life. Steep Tasker and Lege Doozable

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01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:10,760
Speaker 1: here broadcasting live from Seneca Studios in Orchard Park. Nothing

2289
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:13,400
Speaker 1: else comes close. We're here on a day when the

2290
01:52:13,479 --> 01:52:16,479
Speaker 1: Bills had a major scrimmage. I guess it has to

2291
01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:19,439
Speaker 1: be described as major in this day and time of

2292
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:24,639
Speaker 1: training camps being what they are. Post practice, Jerry Hughes

2293
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:27,760
Speaker 1: was made available to the Western New York media and

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01:52:27,920 --> 01:52:32,200
Speaker 1: he began, obviously, like we all do, having to address

2295
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:35,679
Speaker 1: the social injustice that is in our country. And here's

2296
01:52:35,680 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 1: what Jerry Hughes had to say in response to that question.

2297
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:46,759
Speaker 1: Are ignorant and not to offend anyone, but sometimes ignorance

2298
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:49,439
Speaker 1: needs to be educated. And I think when people tell you,

2299
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:52,920
Speaker 1: tell us athletes, you know, just play football, focus on

2300
01:52:53,479 --> 01:52:56,160
Speaker 1: stuff like that, you know, we have to remind them

2301
01:52:56,240 --> 01:52:58,360
Speaker 1: that once we take off that football jersey and we

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01:52:58,520 --> 01:53:01,120
Speaker 1: go home to our perspective, stay or even by me

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01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:04,559
Speaker 1: driving home to my house here in Buffalo, New York.

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01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:08,599
Speaker 1: I'm viewed as a black man, not a football player,

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01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:12,320
Speaker 1: not Jerry Hughes. I am a black man. I am.

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01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:15,320
Speaker 1: If they're looking for a black man with curly hair

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01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:18,679
Speaker 1: on the street six two description, I fit that description.

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01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 1: That's who they're going to come after. And I think

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01:53:20,720 --> 01:53:23,360
Speaker 1: people have to understand that. I think the more and

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01:53:23,439 --> 01:53:27,160
Speaker 1: more we talk about it, the more good, the more

2311
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:30,320
Speaker 1: like we bring into this situation that yeah, I play football,

2312
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:32,840
Speaker 1: but no one, no one knows that once I take

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01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:35,960
Speaker 1: my helmet off, and they need to understand that this

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01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 1: is what my father goes through, my siblings, my kids,

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01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:43,400
Speaker 1: you know, people who look like me, they go through

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01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:45,840
Speaker 1: this on a daily basis where they can't throw out

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01:53:45,960 --> 01:53:49,599
Speaker 1: an NFL card that okay, well I'll lower my gun

2318
01:53:49,680 --> 01:53:51,840
Speaker 1: and take my finger off the tugar because you play

2319
01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:55,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL. A lot of people don't aren't rewarded

2320
01:53:55,320 --> 01:53:58,599
Speaker 1: that that fame pass us as I like to say,

2321
01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:00,400
Speaker 1: it's a it is what it is. It's it's a

2322
01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:03,200
Speaker 1: fame pass that we get as athletes. And so that's

2323
01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 1: why we use this platform because there's such a small

2324
01:54:06,360 --> 01:54:09,320
Speaker 1: percentage of athletes here on this stage doing this, and

2325
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:12,720
Speaker 1: there's so many more people who look like us who

2326
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:16,240
Speaker 1: don't get the same treatments that we get. And do

2327
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 1: we think it's fair. No. Do we ask for it, No,

2328
01:54:19,200 --> 01:54:20,640
Speaker 1: but we do know at the end of the day,

2329
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 1: when this game is done with, when we go home

2330
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:25,080
Speaker 1: in the off season, or better yet, when I go

2331
01:54:25,200 --> 01:54:27,679
Speaker 1: home today and I'm walking around the streets of America,

2332
01:54:28,000 --> 01:54:29,920
Speaker 1: I'm still a black man. I think people need to

2333
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:34,440
Speaker 1: understand that respect, that recognize it, and just view it

2334
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:38,640
Speaker 1: for what it is and understand that my social media platform,

2335
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:41,800
Speaker 1: our social media platforms are here to bring knowledge and

2336
01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 1: to bring awareness as to what goes on in the world,

2337
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:47,160
Speaker 1: because we're here to make this place a better place

2338
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:50,160
Speaker 1: for my kids, for your kids, and for everyone else.

2339
01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:54,760
Speaker 1: Pretty poignant words from Jerry Hughes a past rusture. You've

2340
01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:57,560
Speaker 1: played with him, he's a teammate of yours. What are

2341
01:54:57,560 --> 01:54:59,560
Speaker 1: your thoughts about what he had to say and how

2342
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:05,160
Speaker 1: true does it ring for you? Out of what Jerry said,

2343
01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:08,000
Speaker 1: we kind of talked about this earlier in the show, Steve.

2344
01:55:08,160 --> 01:55:10,680
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, I'm a black man first,

2345
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 1: whether I'm a football player, ten years in the NFL,

2346
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:16,080
Speaker 1: when I get pulled over where I'm whether I'm walking

2347
01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:18,960
Speaker 1: around in my neighborhood, I'm not viewed as an NFL

2348
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:21,280
Speaker 1: player because they don't know who I am, because most

2349
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:23,320
Speaker 1: of the time we have helmets on. I'm beauty as

2350
01:55:23,320 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 1: a black man, and these are some of the struggles

2351
01:55:25,480 --> 01:55:28,680
Speaker 1: that me, my father, my uncle, many people in my

2352
01:55:28,800 --> 01:55:31,200
Speaker 1: family have had to go through just growing up in

2353
01:55:31,240 --> 01:55:34,200
Speaker 1: America as a black man. So I couldn't be more

2354
01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:37,160
Speaker 1: proud of what Jerry Hughes said. We have a platform,

2355
01:55:37,280 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 1: this is the time to use it with people that

2356
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:41,800
Speaker 1: say shut up and stick to sports. Those are those

2357
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:44,200
Speaker 1: are coward words because at the end of the day,

2358
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:46,480
Speaker 1: when I'm walking around, just like he said, when I

2359
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:49,400
Speaker 1: just leave the Buffalo Bill's facility and head home, I'm

2360
01:55:49,440 --> 01:55:51,920
Speaker 1: a black man. I'm not Jerry Hughes anymore. I'm a

2361
01:55:52,040 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 1: black man driving home to get to my family. So

2362
01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:57,040
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, we have this platform

2363
01:55:57,080 --> 01:56:00,040
Speaker 1: to be able to speak up and educate people and

2364
01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:03,760
Speaker 1: give people to knowledge and to show people these are

2365
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:05,880
Speaker 1: some of the issues that we go through on a

2366
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:08,760
Speaker 1: daily basis. So it's our duty to use that platform

2367
01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:12,040
Speaker 1: to educate people. Yeah, how can we change that PERSONA?

2368
01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:14,560
Speaker 1: How can we change that just by continuing to let

2369
01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:17,800
Speaker 1: more and more people know that not every black man

2370
01:56:18,040 --> 01:56:19,760
Speaker 1: is the one they're looking for. You know what I'm saying.

2371
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean, you know what I'm saying. How can that?

2372
01:56:22,200 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 1: What's the best way and the eat not the easiest,

2373
01:56:24,560 --> 01:56:28,200
Speaker 1: but the best way to make it better for everybody?

2374
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:30,600
Speaker 1: We have to we have to get reform and laws

2375
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:33,680
Speaker 1: put in place where you can't just pull somebody over

2376
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:36,400
Speaker 1: because of the color of their skin and because they

2377
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:39,000
Speaker 1: fit a description. To me that it is nonsense. You

2378
01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:41,080
Speaker 1: can't just pull somebody over because we're looking for a

2379
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:43,920
Speaker 1: black guy. As Jerry said, that's six foot two and

2380
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:46,560
Speaker 1: it looks like he weighs about two hundred pounds. No,

2381
01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:48,680
Speaker 1: you have to do your due diligence. We have to

2382
01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:51,680
Speaker 1: put laws in the place where where the stopping frists

2383
01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:55,040
Speaker 1: and all these other laws aren't allowed because it's ridiculous.

2384
01:56:55,360 --> 01:56:57,600
Speaker 1: Their their gender, their gender, not gender by it, but

2385
01:56:57,720 --> 01:57:01,440
Speaker 1: they're racially biased and it makes no sense. And as players,

2386
01:57:01,640 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 1: we have to keep speaking up on these issues, and

2387
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:05,600
Speaker 1: we have to continue to educate ourselves. We have to

2388
01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:08,720
Speaker 1: do our homework. We have to educate ourselves on what

2389
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:11,360
Speaker 1: laws that are out there right now that pertain to

2390
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 1: being illegally stopped right now so that things like this

2391
01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:17,720
Speaker 1: don't continue to happen. And we have to educate everybody.

2392
01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:20,840
Speaker 1: And like like we talked about earlier, Steve Yeah, sports

2393
01:57:20,920 --> 01:57:23,360
Speaker 1: have come back on TV. It seems like the jeuge

2394
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:25,760
Speaker 1: floid thing was forever ago. Well I'm here to tell

2395
01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:27,920
Speaker 1: you that it wasn't forever ago. It really wasn't that

2396
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:31,200
Speaker 1: long ago. It was a few months ago. And this

2397
01:57:31,360 --> 01:57:33,720
Speaker 1: man is no longer living, so that things should still

2398
01:57:33,840 --> 01:57:37,640
Speaker 1: ring ring in everybody's ear. And I applaud people like

2399
01:57:37,800 --> 01:57:41,960
Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes, the NBA players for coming out and speaking

2400
01:57:42,080 --> 01:57:44,600
Speaker 1: up on these these social injustice issues. I know that

2401
01:57:44,720 --> 01:57:46,680
Speaker 1: some of us, you know, people driving around listening to

2402
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 1: our radio show and they're kind of like it's just

2403
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:51,480
Speaker 1: a heavy size, like what can they do? And sometimes

2404
01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:55,200
Speaker 1: we do fall into despair and hopelessness or a sense

2405
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:58,440
Speaker 1: of overwhelming like how can I even help? What can

2406
01:57:58,520 --> 01:58:00,760
Speaker 1: we do? What's you know, where's our country headed? They

2407
01:58:00,800 --> 01:58:03,360
Speaker 1: asked Jerry Hughes that today what his hopes are for

2408
01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 1: this country amid the social injustice Here's what Jerry had

2409
01:58:06,760 --> 01:58:11,600
Speaker 1: to say about that, I have hope just speaking with

2410
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:13,600
Speaker 1: my father in the past couple of nights and just

2411
01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:17,400
Speaker 1: listening to what his generation says and how they view

2412
01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:21,360
Speaker 1: it versus my generation, I think I have hope. On

2413
01:58:21,560 --> 01:58:25,240
Speaker 1: the terms of my generation, it seems like we're fed

2414
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:28,840
Speaker 1: up with it. The older generation was more so of

2415
01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:32,800
Speaker 1: you got to abide by these hidden codes, abide by

2416
01:58:32,840 --> 01:58:36,240
Speaker 1: these hidden rules in order for you to to survive

2417
01:58:36,400 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 1: and just live in America. And yes, I was taught

2418
01:58:40,080 --> 01:58:43,200
Speaker 1: those same codes and rules of how to deal with

2419
01:58:43,320 --> 01:58:45,840
Speaker 1: police officers when they're approaching you, and things like that.

2420
01:58:46,000 --> 01:58:50,120
Speaker 1: But with education, you come to learn that some of

2421
01:58:50,160 --> 01:58:53,839
Speaker 1: the way that they integragate black people versus other races,

2422
01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 1: it's not the same, nor should it be. Where there's

2423
01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:01,080
Speaker 1: a discrepancy versus white and black, it should be everyone

2424
01:59:01,120 --> 01:59:03,360
Speaker 1: gets treated the same. So I think with my generation,

2425
01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:08,440
Speaker 1: we are holding the Constitution up to its bullet points.

2426
01:59:08,520 --> 01:59:10,800
Speaker 1: You know that all men are created equal, And I

2427
01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:14,200
Speaker 1: think when you have people who are willing to stand

2428
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:16,880
Speaker 1: up for what's right in a non violent fashion and

2429
01:59:17,080 --> 01:59:20,560
Speaker 1: try to really ignite some change among the country, but

2430
01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:25,200
Speaker 1: really inform people, you know the importance of how voting

2431
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:28,880
Speaker 1: is and how we can make a difference. Because you know,

2432
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:32,320
Speaker 1: my ancestors died for the right for African Americans votes.

2433
01:59:32,360 --> 01:59:34,680
Speaker 1: You know, there are other ancestors who fought for women

2434
01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:37,360
Speaker 1: to get the right to vote. So you see that

2435
01:59:37,720 --> 01:59:41,400
Speaker 1: we are finally getting our opportunity to be involved in

2436
01:59:41,480 --> 01:59:46,240
Speaker 1: the in the democracy system. We should take full advantage

2437
01:59:46,240 --> 01:59:49,920
Speaker 1: of it and not let that fall on death here.

2438
01:59:50,040 --> 01:59:53,440
Speaker 1: So I think that change is certainly coming. Yeah, it

2439
01:59:53,600 --> 01:59:56,400
Speaker 1: might be a little bit delay, but before my kids

2440
01:59:56,600 --> 01:59:59,800
Speaker 1: turn thirty, I think that we'll have a new and

2441
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:05,760
Speaker 1: better America. You know, Jerry is obviously a well spoken

2442
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:08,120
Speaker 1: and intelligent guy, and he has got a great perspective,

2443
02:00:08,160 --> 02:00:10,960
Speaker 1: and he has an older generation to refer to. How

2444
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:14,120
Speaker 1: do you react to his sense that, yeah, there is hope,

2445
02:00:14,160 --> 02:00:19,840
Speaker 1: that there is slow and maybe at a glacial pace progress,

2446
02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:23,120
Speaker 1: but the awareness seems to be ever president and growing.

2447
02:00:23,200 --> 02:00:27,160
Speaker 1: And does that offer you hope? Is like it does Jerry? Yeah,

2448
02:00:27,240 --> 02:00:29,360
Speaker 1: it definitely offers me hope. If you look back in

2449
02:00:29,480 --> 02:00:33,200
Speaker 1: history from when slavery was to the civil rights movement

2450
02:00:33,280 --> 02:00:35,760
Speaker 1: to where we're at now, I think there's so many

2451
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:39,360
Speaker 1: more people from ethnic backgrounds and different demographics that are

2452
02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:42,400
Speaker 1: coming and being allies for black men and black women

2453
02:00:42,440 --> 02:00:45,480
Speaker 1: and speaking on these injustices. So there is so because

2454
02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:47,400
Speaker 1: more and more people are speaking up and we need

2455
02:00:47,520 --> 02:00:50,000
Speaker 1: those allies. We need my white brothers and sisters and

2456
02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:53,680
Speaker 1: people from different ethnics, ethnicities, and different backgrounds to come

2457
02:00:53,800 --> 02:00:56,960
Speaker 1: up and speak and speak up against these injustices that

2458
02:00:57,080 --> 02:01:00,280
Speaker 1: are going on that are going on against black and

2459
02:01:00,920 --> 02:01:03,480
Speaker 1: black man and black women in America because it's just

2460
02:01:03,680 --> 02:01:05,960
Speaker 1: not right. We're human beings and we should be we

2461
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:09,680
Speaker 1: should be u viewed as human beings and treated as such.

2462
02:01:10,840 --> 02:01:13,160
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, the young running back for the Buffalo Bills,

2463
02:01:13,280 --> 02:01:15,200
Speaker 1: was also made available to the media today and he

2464
02:01:15,280 --> 02:01:17,960
Speaker 1: had some comments that he was asked the exact same questions.

2465
02:01:18,040 --> 02:01:21,680
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary, who took part in the scrimmage today, was

2466
02:01:21,760 --> 02:01:24,520
Speaker 1: asked about the social injustices, his stance on that, how

2467
02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:27,040
Speaker 1: today's scrimmage went. Let's listen to the Bill's second year

2468
02:01:27,120 --> 02:01:28,480
Speaker 1: running back and what he had to say to the

2469
02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:32,840
Speaker 1: media today. Of course, yeah, we had we had conversations

2470
02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:36,000
Speaker 1: about it, about having practice and not having practice, but

2471
02:01:36,240 --> 02:01:39,560
Speaker 1: ultimately what we came up with is we need to

2472
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:43,800
Speaker 1: come together as a team on a solution, you know, uh,

2473
02:01:44,320 --> 02:01:48,520
Speaker 1: basically to use our platform, you know, because it's what's

2474
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:50,240
Speaker 1: right is right, and what's wrong is wrong, and it's

2475
02:01:50,280 --> 02:01:53,360
Speaker 1: it's time for change. So um, that's that's basically what

2476
02:01:53,480 --> 02:01:56,600
Speaker 1: the combo was about last night, and that's what we

2477
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:58,400
Speaker 1: had as a team right now, just trying to come

2478
02:01:58,480 --> 02:02:01,360
Speaker 1: up with a solution on what we can do, how

2479
02:02:01,400 --> 02:02:08,520
Speaker 1: we're able to use our platforms exactly. Hey, Devin John

2480
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:13,000
Speaker 1: Scott going off of that, how do you think you

2481
02:02:13,080 --> 02:02:15,880
Speaker 1: guys should use your platform? Obviously there's no fans in

2482
02:02:15,920 --> 02:02:18,640
Speaker 1: the stands and this is a scrimmage with Justice media members,

2483
02:02:18,720 --> 02:02:21,960
Speaker 1: but moving forward where their discussions on what you guys

2484
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:25,720
Speaker 1: can do when you're more so in the public life.

2485
02:02:25,800 --> 02:02:28,680
Speaker 1: Of course. Um, it was a couple of different things,

2486
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:31,560
Speaker 1: you know, that was brought up. We just we didn't

2487
02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:33,800
Speaker 1: come to an agreement yet on what we should actually

2488
02:02:33,840 --> 02:02:37,240
Speaker 1: do as a team. But like I said, was right

2489
02:02:37,360 --> 02:02:39,360
Speaker 1: is right, what's wrong is wrong, and um I feel

2490
02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:43,280
Speaker 1: I feel like Um, of course, different guys feel different

2491
02:02:43,280 --> 02:02:46,680
Speaker 1: way different ways about it. So at this point we're

2492
02:02:46,720 --> 02:02:48,360
Speaker 1: still just trying to come up with a solution on

2493
02:02:48,440 --> 02:02:51,480
Speaker 1: how we should move forward, and like I said, we

2494
02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:55,000
Speaker 1: got this platform so we can reach out to different organizations,

2495
02:02:55,320 --> 02:02:57,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying as far as social injustice

2496
02:02:58,040 --> 02:03:01,120
Speaker 1: or whatever it may be ways that we can help.

2497
02:03:01,240 --> 02:03:03,520
Speaker 1: So that's what we get with it right now. Throughout

2498
02:03:03,560 --> 02:03:06,880
Speaker 1: your conversations with teammates or as a team, have you

2499
02:03:07,000 --> 02:03:08,920
Speaker 1: noticed you don't need to get specifically named if you

2500
02:03:08,960 --> 02:03:11,120
Speaker 1: don't want, but have you noticed certain guys that maybe

2501
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:13,840
Speaker 1: have come out of their shell or you've noticed there's

2502
02:03:13,840 --> 02:03:16,200
Speaker 1: been a lot more vocal on this issue as opposed

2503
02:03:16,200 --> 02:03:21,480
Speaker 1: to maybe their natural demeanor. I would say so. Um,

2504
02:03:21,800 --> 02:03:24,680
Speaker 1: so we had a pretty much open team. No guys

2505
02:03:24,680 --> 02:03:27,160
Speaker 1: are getting to annoyed each other, and like last night

2506
02:03:27,320 --> 02:03:30,760
Speaker 1: was was real good for us. Was able to open

2507
02:03:30,880 --> 02:03:33,640
Speaker 1: up about how we felt, address certain things, you know

2508
02:03:33,680 --> 02:03:35,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, because we don't want that to divide

2509
02:03:35,440 --> 02:03:38,200
Speaker 1: the team. So I felt with that, you know, that

2510
02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:42,160
Speaker 1: was able to help us come closer and them understand

2511
02:03:42,200 --> 02:03:45,200
Speaker 1: each other and being able to move forward in the

2512
02:03:45,320 --> 02:03:51,040
Speaker 1: right way. Thank you, Hey Devin, that Brown w RC.

2513
02:03:51,160 --> 02:03:52,960
Speaker 1: And just to kind of follow up, we've already been asked,

2514
02:03:53,240 --> 02:03:56,440
Speaker 1: can you talk about how the meeting came together? Was

2515
02:03:56,480 --> 02:03:58,400
Speaker 1: it something that was organized where you guys were in

2516
02:03:58,520 --> 02:04:00,640
Speaker 1: one room? Was it all in zoom? Was a few

2517
02:04:00,680 --> 02:04:03,280
Speaker 1: guys texting how did it actually happen last night? It

2518
02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:06,000
Speaker 1: was it was all in one room. Um, you know

2519
02:04:06,000 --> 02:04:07,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It was a big team meeting, so

2520
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:09,600
Speaker 1: everyone was in there and it was it was just

2521
02:04:09,680 --> 02:04:12,280
Speaker 1: open floor, just you know what I'm saying, to get

2522
02:04:12,440 --> 02:04:15,240
Speaker 1: understanding from each other or whatever it may be. And UM,

2523
02:04:15,600 --> 02:04:17,880
Speaker 1: I feel like it was great for us. Can you

2524
02:04:17,960 --> 02:04:20,880
Speaker 1: describe what the emotions were liking there? Is? Is it frustration? Anger?

2525
02:04:20,960 --> 02:04:23,000
Speaker 1: I mean, what what's kind of the overriding feeling of

2526
02:04:23,080 --> 02:04:25,600
Speaker 1: what that was like? I believe it was a mix

2527
02:04:25,680 --> 02:04:28,320
Speaker 1: of emotions all over. Like I said, was right is

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02:04:28,400 --> 02:04:30,720
Speaker 1: right and what's wrong is wrong. As you see what's

2529
02:04:30,760 --> 02:04:33,040
Speaker 1: going on in the world today, Um, it's a lot

2530
02:04:33,080 --> 02:04:35,880
Speaker 1: of craziness. So um, it was a lot of it

2531
02:04:36,160 --> 02:04:39,080
Speaker 1: was mixed emotions. But like I said, as a team, UM,

2532
02:04:39,160 --> 02:04:41,800
Speaker 1: I felt like it was great for us to basically

2533
02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:44,240
Speaker 1: see how our brothers are feeling, how we could be

2534
02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:47,080
Speaker 1: there for one another. So that's pretty much what it

2535
02:04:47,120 --> 02:04:51,080
Speaker 1: came down to. Yeah, how so you know what all

2536
02:04:51,120 --> 02:04:57,400
Speaker 1: that's growing on the seventeen year old? I mean personally,

2537
02:04:57,880 --> 02:05:01,280
Speaker 1: how did you feel about how did you tru um Man,

2538
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:05,680
Speaker 1: it's hurtful to see. Man, it's still going on. It's

2539
02:05:05,720 --> 02:05:08,480
Speaker 1: been going on. It's just being brought to light now.

2540
02:05:09,120 --> 02:05:10,840
Speaker 1: Um But like I said, it's hurtful. Man. That could

2541
02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:12,320
Speaker 1: have been my brother, that could have been my cousin,

2542
02:05:12,400 --> 02:05:14,040
Speaker 1: that could have been a family member. You know what

2543
02:05:14,120 --> 02:05:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm saying. And you don't never want to see that.

2544
02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:20,560
Speaker 1: So um Man, what's right is right and what's wrong

2545
02:05:20,680 --> 02:05:22,640
Speaker 1: is wrong, and that's wrong, you know what I'm saying.

2546
02:05:22,720 --> 02:05:27,960
Speaker 1: So something gotta give. So what whatever we gotta try change.

2547
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:33,000
Speaker 1: That's what we want to wrong. That's that's the big question.

2548
02:05:33,080 --> 02:05:35,520
Speaker 1: That's what we're trying to figure out. That's that's what

2549
02:05:35,600 --> 02:05:37,120
Speaker 1: we're trying to figure out. What we can do, you

2550
02:05:37,200 --> 02:05:39,200
Speaker 1: know what's best to help you know what I'm saying.

2551
02:05:39,560 --> 02:05:41,960
Speaker 1: We know we want bear to fix it overnight. It's

2552
02:05:42,000 --> 02:05:44,240
Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna take time, but we need to see

2553
02:05:44,280 --> 02:05:47,840
Speaker 1: some some type of progress. That was second year running

2554
02:05:47,840 --> 02:05:51,720
Speaker 1: back Devin Singletary after practice today, as the Western New

2555
02:05:51,800 --> 02:05:54,960
Speaker 1: York media greeted him um as a guy liga that

2556
02:05:55,520 --> 02:05:59,760
Speaker 1: um he is as a second year guy who's in

2557
02:06:00,280 --> 02:06:02,440
Speaker 1: he's going to be on an NFL team someday. He

2558
02:06:02,600 --> 02:06:04,760
Speaker 1: is neck deep and what he's doing in the here

2559
02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:07,760
Speaker 1: and now, and even he has time to, you know,

2560
02:06:07,920 --> 02:06:10,080
Speaker 1: kind of raise his head up from the grindstone and

2561
02:06:10,160 --> 02:06:11,960
Speaker 1: look around him and see what's going on. And there's

2562
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:16,560
Speaker 1: no question, Uh, you could tell it. You know, this

2563
02:06:16,880 --> 02:06:21,720
Speaker 1: is really affected the emotion of the players in the

2564
02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:24,000
Speaker 1: locker room. Can you speak to that and how and

2565
02:06:24,200 --> 02:06:28,120
Speaker 1: and kind of put that into words for us? Oh,

2566
02:06:28,240 --> 02:06:32,040
Speaker 1: definitely it's affected the players. I think it's affected anybody

2567
02:06:32,440 --> 02:06:35,560
Speaker 1: that has a brother or sister, uncle, or anybody that

2568
02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:38,880
Speaker 1: could have been as as Devin alluded to of the

2569
02:06:38,920 --> 02:06:41,600
Speaker 1: two people that got killed during the protest, that could

2570
02:06:41,600 --> 02:06:43,680
Speaker 1: have been you know, a family member. So it hits

2571
02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:46,040
Speaker 1: close to home. I mean, Jacob Bell could have been

2572
02:06:46,120 --> 02:06:48,880
Speaker 1: your uncle. George Floyd could have been your brother, could

2573
02:06:48,920 --> 02:06:52,000
Speaker 1: have been your father. So it definitely hits home. As

2574
02:06:52,160 --> 02:06:54,960
Speaker 1: as as black people in America, this is the fear

2575
02:06:55,040 --> 02:06:57,120
Speaker 1: that we have every day when we walk outside the

2576
02:06:57,200 --> 02:07:00,200
Speaker 1: house when it comes to you know, social jest, this

2577
02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:04,080
Speaker 1: and police police brutality. And like Devin said, we don't

2578
02:07:04,120 --> 02:07:06,560
Speaker 1: have the answer right now, but we're trying to get

2579
02:07:06,640 --> 02:07:09,080
Speaker 1: the answer, and there has to be changed. Change has

2580
02:07:09,120 --> 02:07:12,520
Speaker 1: to come. It's slowly but surely change has been happening,

2581
02:07:12,840 --> 02:07:15,640
Speaker 1: but something has to give because you know, people are

2582
02:07:15,720 --> 02:07:17,840
Speaker 1: tired people, people are sick of this at the end

2583
02:07:17,840 --> 02:07:19,880
Speaker 1: of the day. Like I said, we're black, but we're

2584
02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:22,120
Speaker 1: human just like everybody else, and we should be treated

2585
02:07:22,160 --> 02:07:25,120
Speaker 1: as such too. Yeah, you don't as a black man,

2586
02:07:25,160 --> 02:07:27,080
Speaker 1: you don't get to turn your TV off and forget

2587
02:07:27,120 --> 02:07:32,560
Speaker 1: about it. Um it right, um exactly. Yeah. For guys

2588
02:07:32,640 --> 02:07:36,160
Speaker 1: like me, it's it is different and that's what that's

2589
02:07:36,200 --> 02:07:38,960
Speaker 1: what my time in the NFL taught me along with

2590
02:07:39,080 --> 02:07:40,840
Speaker 1: my friends have had it and and it's something that

2591
02:07:40,920 --> 02:07:44,320
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary and both and Jerry Hughes both said today.

2592
02:07:44,440 --> 02:07:46,400
Speaker 1: You know, when you leave the stadium, you don't you're

2593
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:49,560
Speaker 1: no longer were in the jersey, um, and you're just

2594
02:07:49,680 --> 02:07:51,680
Speaker 1: another guy and you got to live your life and

2595
02:07:51,840 --> 02:07:55,640
Speaker 1: it's hard to do so in some instances. Devin's Singletary

2596
02:07:55,760 --> 02:07:57,920
Speaker 1: number one running back now, I guess number one running

2597
02:07:57,960 --> 02:08:01,480
Speaker 1: back for the Buffalo Bills. Um had you know nice

2598
02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:04,680
Speaker 1: a nice rookie campaign. Seven and seventy five yards. A

2599
02:08:04,760 --> 02:08:08,200
Speaker 1: couple of rushing tds a couple of receiving TDS. Um,

2600
02:08:08,720 --> 02:08:12,600
Speaker 1: what do you think's going through his mind, Liege as

2601
02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:16,520
Speaker 1: he comes into a season like this one as a pandemic.

2602
02:08:16,680 --> 02:08:19,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you're you're a ten year VET. As a pandemic,

2603
02:08:20,040 --> 02:08:22,920
Speaker 1: You're you've got a lot of responsibilities, an enhanced sense

2604
02:08:23,000 --> 02:08:25,600
Speaker 1: of responsibility to your team because you do have a

2605
02:08:25,720 --> 02:08:31,000
Speaker 1: larger role and the pandemic has hit. Social injustice is

2606
02:08:31,160 --> 02:08:34,800
Speaker 1: hot on the front burner of everybody stove, and you're

2607
02:08:34,920 --> 02:08:37,440
Speaker 1: really you thought, you know, this season was going to

2608
02:08:37,480 --> 02:08:38,800
Speaker 1: be one where you could just come in and just

2609
02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:42,160
Speaker 1: play ball, and yet so much more has been dumped

2610
02:08:42,200 --> 02:08:44,320
Speaker 1: on the plate of these athletes. What do you think

2611
02:08:44,360 --> 02:08:48,640
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary's going through? Yeah, I mean he's going through

2612
02:08:48,640 --> 02:08:50,520
Speaker 1: a lot, just not just him, but every player in

2613
02:08:50,560 --> 02:08:53,080
Speaker 1: the NFL. There's there's so much that we've had to

2614
02:08:53,160 --> 02:08:56,560
Speaker 1: deal with this year, as you alluded to Steve, the pandemic,

2615
02:08:56,720 --> 02:08:58,920
Speaker 1: not being able to be with the team most of

2616
02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:02,600
Speaker 1: the all season, and now dealing with social injustice, which

2617
02:09:02,640 --> 02:09:05,160
Speaker 1: is something we've been dealing with for years and years,

2618
02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:08,240
Speaker 1: literally hundreds of years, something that's really been brought to

2619
02:09:08,320 --> 02:09:11,880
Speaker 1: the forefront because of video and seeing all these these

2620
02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:15,440
Speaker 1: these heinous acts on video, and that's something that you

2621
02:09:15,840 --> 02:09:17,880
Speaker 1: as a black man. Playing in the NFL is something

2622
02:09:17,880 --> 02:09:19,720
Speaker 1: that you have to deal with on a daily basis.

2623
02:09:20,040 --> 02:09:22,800
Speaker 1: So there's pressure already coming into it just being on

2624
02:09:22,880 --> 02:09:25,680
Speaker 1: the NFL team, and especially for him because he's going

2625
02:09:25,760 --> 02:09:28,240
Speaker 1: into this season as the number one running back, so

2626
02:09:28,440 --> 02:09:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, Frank Warris with him last year and now

2627
02:09:31,800 --> 02:09:33,960
Speaker 1: he leaves, and now he's got to be the guy

2628
02:09:34,600 --> 02:09:37,160
Speaker 1: on top of dealing with the you know, COVID and

2629
02:09:37,280 --> 02:09:40,280
Speaker 1: the pandemic, and then you add the social injustice that

2630
02:09:40,720 --> 02:09:42,840
Speaker 1: is happening around the nation. It's a lot to deal

2631
02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:46,160
Speaker 1: with as a rookie. And that's what really separates most

2632
02:09:46,400 --> 02:09:48,600
Speaker 1: NFL players from people in society because you have to

2633
02:09:48,680 --> 02:09:51,200
Speaker 1: deal with all these things and continue to work and

2634
02:09:51,320 --> 02:09:53,440
Speaker 1: play at a high level because at the end of

2635
02:09:53,440 --> 02:09:56,520
Speaker 1: the day, if you're not being productive, most likely you're

2636
02:09:56,520 --> 02:09:59,360
Speaker 1: gonna lose your job. Yeah, and amid these tragedies that

2637
02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:01,400
Speaker 1: we've all with and it has sparked all of this

2638
02:10:01,600 --> 02:10:05,320
Speaker 1: conversation and and the fact, you know, it's got NBA

2639
02:10:05,440 --> 02:10:10,040
Speaker 1: guys boycott in games because it seems wrong to go

2640
02:10:10,160 --> 02:10:13,600
Speaker 1: out and play an entertainment sport in the midst of

2641
02:10:13,840 --> 02:10:16,920
Speaker 1: social injustice, that is, you know, costing people their lives

2642
02:10:16,960 --> 02:10:19,640
Speaker 1: and the balance that you have to mentally get your

2643
02:10:19,680 --> 02:10:23,680
Speaker 1: mind around. Is there a sense to you that all

2644
02:10:23,960 --> 02:10:26,960
Speaker 1: that the players and and and the you know, this

2645
02:10:27,120 --> 02:10:31,160
Speaker 1: whole movement and this sends justice, This outrage has got

2646
02:10:31,200 --> 02:10:35,480
Speaker 1: a huge opportunity now that has never been presented because

2647
02:10:35,520 --> 02:10:38,680
Speaker 1: of tragedy. No question is because of the tragedies of

2648
02:10:38,720 --> 02:10:42,120
Speaker 1: George Floyd and Jacob Blake and these things, that this

2649
02:10:42,320 --> 02:10:46,360
Speaker 1: could be an opportunity to get make some tangible progress

2650
02:10:46,440 --> 02:10:48,680
Speaker 1: in a lot of different fronts that you don't want

2651
02:10:48,720 --> 02:10:50,920
Speaker 1: to let a football season or an NBA season, or

2652
02:10:50,960 --> 02:10:52,800
Speaker 1: a hockey season or a baseball season get in the

2653
02:10:52,880 --> 02:10:56,760
Speaker 1: way of is there that kind of Is there that

2654
02:10:56,840 --> 02:11:00,480
Speaker 1: kind of mentality? And I would say that few NBA

2655
02:11:00,560 --> 02:11:02,760
Speaker 1: players actually talked about that when they were talking about,

2656
02:11:02,840 --> 02:11:05,240
Speaker 1: you know, restarting the NBA season. I know Kyrie Irving

2657
02:11:05,720 --> 02:11:07,960
Speaker 1: spoke up about it, the White Howard spoke up about it.

2658
02:11:08,280 --> 02:11:10,160
Speaker 1: They were saying, at the momentum that we had and

2659
02:11:10,320 --> 02:11:13,120
Speaker 1: having people listen to our actual issues that are going

2660
02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:15,960
Speaker 1: on with our country will be wiped away if we

2661
02:11:16,080 --> 02:11:18,720
Speaker 1: restart you know the NBA season because now people can,

2662
02:11:18,920 --> 02:11:21,320
Speaker 1: like we talked about earlier, can focus on sports and

2663
02:11:21,480 --> 02:11:23,320
Speaker 1: go back to their cushy lives and not really talk

2664
02:11:23,360 --> 02:11:26,360
Speaker 1: about these uncomfortable conversations. At the height of the George

2665
02:11:26,400 --> 02:11:29,160
Speaker 1: Floyd death, you know, there was no sports, so it

2666
02:11:29,240 --> 02:11:30,920
Speaker 1: was in your face. You had to talk about it.

2667
02:11:31,000 --> 02:11:33,040
Speaker 1: You have to get uncomfortable and talk about it. And

2668
02:11:33,200 --> 02:11:35,640
Speaker 1: I think that and I'm glad and I applied the

2669
02:11:35,760 --> 02:11:38,720
Speaker 1: NBA players for being willing to boycott, you know, a

2670
02:11:38,760 --> 02:11:41,360
Speaker 1: playoff game and potentially maybe even miss out on a

2671
02:11:41,480 --> 02:11:45,160
Speaker 1: championship because these issues are more than you know, entertainment

2672
02:11:45,240 --> 02:11:48,240
Speaker 1: and you watching your favorite NBA team play because at

2673
02:11:48,280 --> 02:11:49,800
Speaker 1: the end of the day, most of those players that

2674
02:11:49,880 --> 02:11:52,240
Speaker 1: play in that game are black and they have to

2675
02:11:52,320 --> 02:11:56,440
Speaker 1: deal with these issues on a daily basis. Leiche Doosable,

2676
02:11:56,480 --> 02:11:58,200
Speaker 1: thanks so much for sharing that with us. We're going

2677
02:11:58,240 --> 02:12:00,240
Speaker 1: to come back right after this break. We're gonna wrap

2678
02:12:00,360 --> 02:12:02,080
Speaker 1: up this show. We're here till three o'clock. One of

2679
02:12:02,120 --> 02:12:05,040
Speaker 1: thanks our thanks to Devin Single, Terry Jerry Hughes for

2680
02:12:05,120 --> 02:12:07,920
Speaker 1: sharing your thoughts with the media today. Lots more to

2681
02:12:08,000 --> 02:12:10,480
Speaker 1: talk about in the coming weeks, as the NFL season

2682
02:12:10,640 --> 02:12:12,560
Speaker 1: bears down upon you. We'll be right back with What

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02:12:12,680 --> 02:12:14,760
Speaker 1: Have We Learned? On One of Bills Live, presented by

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02:12:14,840 --> 02:12:32,800
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Speaker 1: company of the Buffalo Bills. We had a great show today.

2687
02:12:38,720 --> 02:12:41,440
Speaker 1: Guest host Lija Doozable on with us today. We had

2688
02:12:41,440 --> 02:12:45,280
Speaker 1: a huge, long conversation about the social injustices that are

2689
02:12:45,320 --> 02:12:49,760
Speaker 1: surrounding our country and of course are swirling vastly in

2690
02:12:50,360 --> 02:12:53,240
Speaker 1: professional sports and Lejay we heard from Devin Singletary from

2691
02:12:53,320 --> 02:12:55,080
Speaker 1: Jerry Hues. I want to thank you for your input,

2692
02:12:56,920 --> 02:12:59,200
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on. It was great to have you on.

2693
02:12:59,280 --> 02:13:01,400
Speaker 1: We've never we haven't. We've seen each other like a

2694
02:13:01,480 --> 02:13:03,240
Speaker 1: couple of times in person, like once or twice, and

2695
02:13:03,280 --> 02:13:05,080
Speaker 1: I just want to thank you. It's been great and

2696
02:13:05,200 --> 02:13:08,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate your candor, your honesty and your insight. It's

2697
02:13:08,040 --> 02:13:11,960
Speaker 1: been awesome. Man. I appreciate you no thanks for having me, Steve,

2698
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:13,480
Speaker 1: and it was great seeing you. I know it's been

2699
02:13:13,480 --> 02:13:16,520
Speaker 1: a little while since that's Super Bowl at twenty eighteen,

2700
02:13:16,520 --> 02:13:18,200
Speaker 1: so it was great to get on a show with

2701
02:13:18,360 --> 02:13:22,200
Speaker 1: you again. Yeah, Leche Doozable, he's got anything as doozable

2702
02:13:22,240 --> 02:13:25,400
Speaker 1: as a podcast, Cooking with Chef Doos that's on YouTube

2703
02:13:25,440 --> 02:13:28,160
Speaker 1: as well as a podcast. And also he is the

2704
02:13:29,040 --> 02:13:32,120
Speaker 1: guy at Legacy Elite Training. It's his company. You can

2705
02:13:32,160 --> 02:13:34,120
Speaker 1: go down for Lauderdale area. They train a lot of

2706
02:13:34,160 --> 02:13:36,840
Speaker 1: pro athletes and stuff. I appreciate you coming on. Thank

2707
02:13:36,920 --> 02:13:39,560
Speaker 1: you so much. We're gonna be back with you tomorrow.

2708
02:13:39,680 --> 02:13:41,440
Speaker 1: Here I think Eric Wood is going to be our

2709
02:13:41,480 --> 02:13:44,440
Speaker 1: co host tomorrow. Leja Doozable, thanks so much. I appreciate you.

2710
02:13:45,280 --> 02:13:47,680
Speaker 1: Maddie glab came on with us. Chris Drapazzo. You can

2711
02:13:47,720 --> 02:13:49,440
Speaker 1: go back and listen to any part of the show

2712
02:13:49,520 --> 02:13:52,760
Speaker 1: if you want back on the outlet, the Bills app

2713
02:13:52,920 --> 02:13:56,480
Speaker 1: or Buffalo bills dot com. Thanks so much, everybody, Jay Harris,

2714
02:13:56,560 --> 02:14:00,520
Speaker 1: Jeff coltonac Kelly Rood JJ. Thanks everybody. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you tomorrow. M