Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from
Speaker 1: Packers dot Com. I am like Spofford, he is the
Speaker 1: one and only west Hodkowits for coming to you here
Speaker 1: from our studios at lambeau Field West. There are five
Speaker 1: training camp practices in the books, one of them in
Speaker 1: pads and shoulder pads on Monday at the time that
Speaker 1: that we are taping this episode. So I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: go through here the three different phases of things and
Speaker 1: ask for your early impressions. I'll I'll respond and share
Speaker 1: some of my own offensive side of the ball. Your
Speaker 1: early impressions through these first handful of practice, Well, I
Speaker 1: thought Aaron Rodgers said it perfectly from the beginning. He's like,
Speaker 1: there's gonna be good days. There's gonna be days where
Speaker 1: the defense wins, and certainly the first day in pads,
Speaker 1: by and large, it was a defensive winning kind of day.
Speaker 1: But what impressed me was how the offense came back
Speaker 1: in the two minute period and you saw guys, you know,
Speaker 1: Josiah Deguire making a key catchdown the scene that's set
Speaker 1: up the field goal that won the drill or whatever
Speaker 1: you wanna call it. Uh and Also Sammy Watkins came
Speaker 1: in and also had to move the ball kind of
Speaker 1: you know, play to get him in territory. For that,
Speaker 1: this offense, I know a lot is gonna be on
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers shoulders this year, but there's so many guys
Speaker 1: that he can rely on and count on. I think
Speaker 1: you're seeing the way they're using these running backs right now.
Speaker 1: Certainly they have to figure out what they're starting. Five
Speaker 1: is gonna look like. Here, you gotta see what happens
Speaker 1: with David baktr But ultimately, as I've said it time
Speaker 1: and time again, for but as much as people were
Speaker 1: stressing about Davante Adams, and there's a big reason for that,
Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur mentioned in the playbook or whatever it was,
Speaker 1: ran through him last season, there are guys ready willing
Speaker 1: and able to pick up that slack. And that's what
Speaker 1: I saw in some of those adverse type of situations. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with you that first practice in Pads, the
Speaker 1: defense was definitely getting the better of things. Um, But
Speaker 1: then you saw towards the tail end of the practice,
Speaker 1: you saw Rogers and that first team offense kind of
Speaker 1: snap out of the appinis a little bit. They kind
Speaker 1: of got things going. They had they did put together
Speaker 1: a solid two minute drive. There. The biggest things that
Speaker 1: jump out at me in general with regard to the
Speaker 1: offense in these first five practices, a that rookie receiver
Speaker 1: Romeo Dobbs has carried over what looked like a very
Speaker 1: strong spring in the practices we got to see. Now
Speaker 1: we didn't get to see all of them in the spring,
Speaker 1: but it looked like he got off to a good
Speaker 1: start in the spring and he's carried that over, I think,
Speaker 1: into a good start to training camp. But the other thing,
Speaker 1: and you just hinted at it in your last comment,
Speaker 1: is how much these running backs Aaron Jones and a J.
Speaker 1: Dillon are going to be involved in the passing game
Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers. You can see it in the play designs.
Speaker 1: You can see it in you know, the way Rogers
Speaker 1: looks to them in certain situations and not just this
Speaker 1: isn't just the checkdown stuff when he needs to get
Speaker 1: rid of the ball. This is this is design stuff
Speaker 1: that Aaron Jones and a J. Dillon wherever they might
Speaker 1: line up, usually if they're both on the field together.
Speaker 1: Dylan's the one of the backfield and Jones has lined
Speaker 1: up somewhere as more of like a slaughter or a
Speaker 1: wide receiver, but wherever they're lined up, there a threat
Speaker 1: to catch the ball in the passing game in a
Speaker 1: in a designed, purposeful type of way. That's what That's
Speaker 1: what I've seen. As much as it's been good to
Speaker 1: see what al Lazard's doing, what Romeo Dobbs is doing,
Speaker 1: and and now Sammy Watkins getting involved in eleven on
Speaker 1: eleven now a few days into camp. What we're seeing
Speaker 1: from these running backs I think is the biggest sign
Speaker 1: of what we're going to see come September and October.
Speaker 1: And when you talked about that transition point in that
Speaker 1: practice of where things start to turn around for the offense,
Speaker 1: I personally felt like it was that the steam route
Speaker 1: that A. J. Dillon ended up running, because it wasn't
Speaker 1: just that Rogers made a nice throw to him, it's
Speaker 1: how Dylan adjusted his body to the ball. He looked
Speaker 1: like a receiver on that play. And for a kid
Speaker 1: that so many people were questioning, you know, how he
Speaker 1: catches the ball. He didn't do it often at Boston College.
Speaker 1: I think over the last sixteen months you've seen him
Speaker 1: make big strides in that area and and realistically, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the conversations this week with Dylan and Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones at their lockers was the idea of, you know, thirty,
Speaker 1: you know, three thousand yards between the two of them
Speaker 1: this year, you know, kind of metrics that they're putting
Speaker 1: out there that are achievable, not just about what they're
Speaker 1: gonna do and running the ball, but how they can
Speaker 1: affect the passing game. And I feel like the more
Speaker 1: you can keep Aaron Jones healthy, the more opportunities that
Speaker 1: you give Dylan in this passing game. I feel like
Speaker 1: that is going to be the really the recipe here
Speaker 1: for Green Bay early on as you wait for some
Speaker 1: of those young receivers to really develop. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I think one of the biggest adjustments schematically that I
Speaker 1: think Matt Lafleur and Adam Stanovich and this offense are
Speaker 1: going to make is in order you had your automatic
Speaker 1: stressor for a defense when Davanta Adams is on the field, right,
Speaker 1: we saw how the Baltimore Ravens would lie, you know,
Speaker 1: line up three guys in a triangle on one side
Speaker 1: of the field to make sure Davantae Adams didn't really
Speaker 1: have anywhere to go. He was the automatic stressor. I
Speaker 1: think the stressor that they're going to try to employ
Speaker 1: in two is make the defense react to both of
Speaker 1: these running backs being on the field at the same time.
Speaker 1: How do you want to match up with an extra dB,
Speaker 1: with an extra linebacker? And you know, and then you
Speaker 1: have a guy like Aaron Rodgers at the controls who
Speaker 1: can look at how the defense is matching up and go, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is what we want to do to get ourselves
Speaker 1: in the best possible play. I think those two running
Speaker 1: backs are the guys that the Packers are going to
Speaker 1: use to try to dictate to the defense or at
Speaker 1: least test the defense see how they react, and then
Speaker 1: you let Aaron Rodgers do his thing, because the more
Speaker 1: eyes that are ultimately going to be on those backs,
Speaker 1: the more opportunities it's also going to open up for
Speaker 1: the passing game. And the Packers have all these guys
Speaker 1: that play different positions and play all those positions differently
Speaker 1: in and of themselves that I think really that's going
Speaker 1: to be a massive opportunity for them. Again, going back
Speaker 1: to that Daguara play Daguia and that f tight end role,
Speaker 1: that h back type role. That was a hallmark of
Speaker 1: what Kyle Shanahan did. You look at what's happening now
Speaker 1: in Miami with them signing INGLED and and I see
Speaker 1: Daguires being a guy that can fit into that as well,
Speaker 1: along with Dominic Dafney, depending on all that shuffles up.
Speaker 1: There are so many different mechanisms in scheme variations that
Speaker 1: the Packers can work into this thing. It's just not
Speaker 1: your traditional eleven personnel. Over and over again, the Packers
Speaker 1: are gonna hit you with different waves, and that's ultimately
Speaker 1: what you have to do when you lose a guy
Speaker 1: like Davante Adams. Yeah, well, shifting gears to the defensive
Speaker 1: side of the ball. I don't think we can start
Speaker 1: a conversation about early impressions on defense without mentioning the
Speaker 1: name Rashan Gary. We were there at practice every day.
Speaker 1: We see all of the eleven on eleven reps, and
Speaker 1: the guy's just a presence on the field, play after
Speaker 1: play after play. Now, I think we're going to see
Speaker 1: potentially even more of that now that the pads are
Speaker 1: going on. We're going to see him in you know,
Speaker 1: the one on one pass rush, pass protection, drill. But
Speaker 1: Rashan Gary, the guy just shows up to play every day,
Speaker 1: whether it's a game, whether it's a practice, even in
Speaker 1: the jog through, He's going to find a way to
Speaker 1: make his presence felt on the field. And and you
Speaker 1: can just you can just see now, you know, year
Speaker 1: number four for Rashan Gary, he's growing into that, really
Speaker 1: growing into that stand up outside linebacker, that classic edge
Speaker 1: rusher set the edge player, but also becoming you know,
Speaker 1: I know it's a cliche, but becoming a true leader
Speaker 1: by example on the defensive side in terms of how
Speaker 1: he carries himself. It's the blueprint. It is the way
Speaker 1: in which you not only look for a first round
Speaker 1: pick to to work in to to really harness his technique.
Speaker 1: It's the way you want to see from any player
Speaker 1: to have that much, you know, kind of fire in
Speaker 1: the belly, so to speak. And until he stops playing,
Speaker 1: until he's no longer in Green Bay. That the thing
Speaker 1: I'm always going to go back to with Rashan Gary
Speaker 1: is the first thing that Mike Smith was saying during
Speaker 1: his rookie year. When a guy is that physically gifted
Speaker 1: and he works that hard, those individuals do not fail
Speaker 1: because everything, Every bad box is checked in that way.
Speaker 1: It's just allowing your body to catch up. People forget
Speaker 1: I mean, Rashawn Garry's not going to be what four
Speaker 1: years old until December. I mean this time, he was
Speaker 1: a guy who came into the league making a position transition.
Speaker 1: He went. He was a down lineman at Michigan, not
Speaker 1: a nose tackle, not saying he was an interior guy,
Speaker 1: but he was a down lineman, hand in the dirt, uh,
Speaker 1: down lineman at Michigan, and the Packers drafted him twelfth
Speaker 1: overall with the immediate plan to convert him into a
Speaker 1: stand up outside linebacker, slash pass rusher and UH and
Speaker 1: the transformation, yes, it did take some time, and he
Speaker 1: is there now. But yet at the same time, you
Speaker 1: can see the transformation isn't totally complete because he hasn't
Speaker 1: he hasn't reached his peak yet. I don't think it's
Speaker 1: just watching him. We had our first opportunity to see
Speaker 1: the one on one pass rust trails and I wrote
Speaker 1: in our insider inbox, Colum, I mean, the guy is
Speaker 1: just shot out of a cannon. And I understand it's
Speaker 1: a drill that is designed for the defense. They they
Speaker 1: they're the ones jumping it. It's a one on one
Speaker 1: situation there, pinning their ears back. They don't have to
Speaker 1: worry about the run, but it's when the whistle blows
Speaker 1: and the ball is snapped. The amount of kinetic energy
Speaker 1: that this young man develops in an instant is special.
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything quite like it. I wasn't here
Speaker 1: for Clay Matthews and like his absolute zenith and oh
Speaker 1: nine and ten in those years, maybe that's how it looked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was. He was pretty darn impressive right from the gift.
Speaker 1: But the speed to power of this kid is just
Speaker 1: off the charts. And again, as long as he can
Speaker 1: stay healthy and as long as the Packers can find
Speaker 1: a way to get some snaps off of him throughout
Speaker 1: the course of the season, I mean, the sky is
Speaker 1: the absolute limit. Yeah. Well, also worth mentioning a couple
Speaker 1: other things on the defensive side. One with regard to
Speaker 1: the two minute drills that we've seen the last few
Speaker 1: days in practice, Very very competitive. It's always my favorite
Speaker 1: eleven on eleven to watch is the two minute because
Speaker 1: you know they'll pit ones against ones and you know
Speaker 1: there's seventy seventy yards to defend. The clock is running,
Speaker 1: there's time outs, whatever, here we go. The d fence
Speaker 1: has had really really good opportunities to win those uh shama.
Speaker 1: John Charles and Adrian Amos in the last couple of
Speaker 1: two minute drills both had great chances for interceptions to
Speaker 1: beat Aaron Rodgers to win to win that that two
Speaker 1: minute drill against the number one offense, but came up
Speaker 1: just a little short. John Charles was ruled to have
Speaker 1: bobbled the ball and was out of bounds out the
Speaker 1: back of the end zone. And then on the next
Speaker 1: play Aaron Rodger sits Alana's arn't for the touchdown. Then
Speaker 1: yesterday Adrian Amos has a great chance for an interception
Speaker 1: at the goal line, can't quite bring it in. Still
Speaker 1: a solid pass break up, but because the offense only
Speaker 1: needed a field goal, they send out the kicker and
Speaker 1: they win the drill, whereas the defense is kicking itself
Speaker 1: because because the unit knows that it should have had
Speaker 1: an interception there. That's been fun to watch. The other thing, though,
Speaker 1: I want to touch on, is a story that you've
Speaker 1: got on our website now with regard to the defensive line,
Speaker 1: and we talked about this leading up to training camp
Speaker 1: and the changes personnel wise that were made in the
Speaker 1: off season, but those the two biggest personnel additions to
Speaker 1: that defensive line, Jarren Reid and Davante Wyatt, both starting
Speaker 1: to show up in practice. They really are. And this
Speaker 1: is the part of it that I wrote this in
Speaker 1: the story. I mean, every year around this time, you'll
Speaker 1: hear Jerry Montgomery talk about it. You heard Mike Petton
Speaker 1: talk about it, and obviously you know the transition to
Speaker 1: Joe Barrier's defensive coordinator finding ways to to kind of
Speaker 1: reduce the workload on Kenny Clark and by proxy, you
Speaker 1: know Dean Lowry, and it's just been so difficult to
Speaker 1: get those guys off the field. I mean, they basically
Speaker 1: both played every snap just about in that playoff game
Speaker 1: against the forty Niners. Trying to find ways to deepen
Speaker 1: that rotation. Well, they did it this offseason, and it
Speaker 1: came from three different levels. It was draft taking t
Speaker 1: J Slaton, a guy that projects as a true nose tackle.
Speaker 1: We had really some explosiveness and twitch, a guy who
Speaker 1: was really coming on late in his rest season. Took
Speaker 1: him a little while to get there, to kind of
Speaker 1: get his feet under him, but we saw Slaton making
Speaker 1: more of an impact later in the year than in
Speaker 1: the early part of his sure And then you know,
Speaker 1: you go and get Jarren Read, a guy that was
Speaker 1: in that NFL draft class with Clark in Laurie, a
Speaker 1: guy that's had ten and a half sacks in this league,
Speaker 1: a guy that's also been a run stuffer and has
Speaker 1: only missed I believe it was eight games in six
Speaker 1: NFL seasons. And then lastly, it was getting Davante Why
Speaker 1: for the first time in six years since Kenny Clark
Speaker 1: actually investing a first round pick into that position, And
Speaker 1: what stood out to me in practice on Monday, it
Speaker 1: was twofold one. Just what Jaren Reid could potentially give
Speaker 1: them in a base front when you when you mix
Speaker 1: in Clark at a nose tackle position, when you have
Speaker 1: Laurie had a four or five technique. Jared Reid is
Speaker 1: a guy that's going to hold his own on his
Speaker 1: side of the line. You're not gonna have to worry
Speaker 1: about him. I think we already knew that going in,
Speaker 1: but actually seeing him in the paths really shows you
Speaker 1: how he can really eat up some space with his
Speaker 1: body type. And Davonte Wyatt again going back to those
Speaker 1: one on one drills. That does not make a defensive lineman.
Speaker 1: It does not make you a pro bowler. But I
Speaker 1: remember watching him on the sled in the off season
Speaker 1: program and just seeing the way his feet work, the
Speaker 1: amount of mass that he has there, and how quickly
Speaker 1: he can get from one side to another. Devonte White
Speaker 1: looked really good in a three technique in the in
Speaker 1: the one on one spot as well. So the Packers
Speaker 1: need to find ways to to lessen the load on
Speaker 1: Clark and Lowry, to to not only just keep them fresh,
Speaker 1: but make them even more impactful when they're on the field,
Speaker 1: and for the first time in a few years, they
Speaker 1: might really have the core to do it. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: way I look at the way I look at this
Speaker 1: unit in this day and age, of the vast majority
Speaker 1: of snaps, only three or two down linemen defensively are
Speaker 1: on the field at any given time. That when the
Speaker 1: Packers have a five s some of Clark, Lowry, Wyatt,
Speaker 1: Read and Slaton, whatever order you want to put him in,
Speaker 1: that's that's as deep a five at that position group
Speaker 1: as I can recall being around here, probably since you
Speaker 1: know the days of the old four three before Don
Speaker 1: Caper's even even walked in the door, so to speak.
Speaker 1: So um, that's that's going to be interesting and exciting
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Speaker 1: on a few guys that I that for right now,
Speaker 1: these early stages of camp, I consider sort of these
Speaker 1: intriguing individual stories and I'm gonna throw one name your
Speaker 1: way because you wrote about him. The story is still
Speaker 1: on our website for those who want to go find it,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about Rico Gafford. Um interesting young man
Speaker 1: with an interesting backstory. Here tell us what you've learned.
Speaker 1: He's the hopeful right twenty six years old, was signed
Speaker 1: as a futures signing back in January. Patricks have actually
Speaker 1: had some good luck with that the last years, finding
Speaker 1: guys on the practice squad in the end of the
Speaker 1: roster um after the seasons over guys that are just
Speaker 1: on the street. Gafford is so interesting to me, Mike. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the four to two speed, going back to his Wyoming
Speaker 1: pro dade. That's how this guy got on the map.
Speaker 1: That's why the Raiders invested three years into him and
Speaker 1: ultimately tried moving him to the receiver position. The Packers
Speaker 1: have moved him back to cornerback. That started with a
Speaker 1: conversation with Matt Lafloor Enrico this offseason, right after they
Speaker 1: draft three receivers. You kind of look at the lay
Speaker 1: of the land, you look at the investment the Packers
Speaker 1: have made at that position. With Sammy Watkins also be added,
Speaker 1: it was gonna be up, you know, uphill sledding there
Speaker 1: for for Gafford to make the rosters. So what about cornerback,
Speaker 1: the position he originally played to begin with. We're seeing
Speaker 1: him being used on some of these special teams units.
Speaker 1: You saw him going back for some some returns the
Speaker 1: last few days. But really it's how he's performed in
Speaker 1: these number two defensive periods that have impressed me. The most.
Speaker 1: The guy's made quite a few, you know, past deflections,
Speaker 1: broken up some stuff. He's not been an easy guy
Speaker 1: to complete against. And when you look at speed, when
Speaker 1: you add in the technique and you maybe give a
Speaker 1: guy with those type of intangibles and you add him
Speaker 1: with a Jerry Gray, you do kind of wonder what's
Speaker 1: possible there for this young guy. Now again, this is
Speaker 1: his fifth NFL training camp. He's trying to make this
Speaker 1: thing work. I feel like the hunger is there with
Speaker 1: Gafford knowing that he isn't sure how many more of
Speaker 1: these opportunities he's gonna get, and he wants to find
Speaker 1: his way on to the fifty three. And for the
Speaker 1: first week of training camp, I think he's done everything right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that guy is he's lightning fast man cow. He can,
Speaker 1: really he can. You're not going to get a goal
Speaker 1: ball on him. I mean you might get him with
Speaker 1: some stuff off the line of scrimmage, but if you're
Speaker 1: trying to go downfield, he's going to catch up. It's
Speaker 1: Harry Sam Seals esque. Yeah, and he's wearing Sam Shields No.
Speaker 1: Number thirty seven, So go figure um. A couple of
Speaker 1: guys I want to mention one we talked about on
Speaker 1: our last show, and that's Jake Hansen on the offensive line,
Speaker 1: and I wanted to bring him up again. He's he's
Speaker 1: in one of the two main number one line combinations
Speaker 1: that we talked about on our last show. I talked
Speaker 1: with him yesterday and he's the lead item in yesterday's
Speaker 1: five Things Learned from Training Camp for those who want
Speaker 1: to check that out. He brought up a really interesting point,
Speaker 1: and it's the kind of thing that even as long
Speaker 1: as you and I are around this and we talked
Speaker 1: to guys and we cover you know, the team on
Speaker 1: a daily basis year after year, that we forget about.
Speaker 1: And what he talked about is how last year he
Speaker 1: pretty much spent all of the regular season practices on
Speaker 1: the scout team. He was he was scout team offense,
Speaker 1: either at center or guard, depending on you know, how
Speaker 1: they were using him that particular day. Well what did
Speaker 1: that mean for him? That meant every single day in
Speaker 1: practice he's going up against Kenny Clark and Dean Lowry,
Speaker 1: you know. And so when we talk about how Jake
Speaker 1: Hansen is suddenly now because of you know, Elton Jenkins,
Speaker 1: David Botr being out in the line being shuffled around.
Speaker 1: Jake Hansen is one of the guys being looked at,
Speaker 1: you know, ad guard on the offensive line. How does
Speaker 1: a guy like that just come out of nowhere? Sixth
Speaker 1: round pick? A couple of years ago practice squad, had
Speaker 1: some injury, had a had an injury as a rookie,
Speaker 1: hip injury that required surgery. All of this, then last year,
Speaker 1: you know, barely appears in some games that you know
Speaker 1: for some special team snaps. How does he get to
Speaker 1: this point? It's because he spent every day in practice
Speaker 1: last year going up against Clark and Lowry because he
Speaker 1: was a scout team offensive lineman. He's a better player
Speaker 1: now than he was, and the coaches are giving him
Speaker 1: a chance to show that. So I wanted to just
Speaker 1: try to expound a little bit on what we talked
Speaker 1: about with Hanson last time in terms of how he's
Speaker 1: gotten to where he is right now. And the other
Speaker 1: one I'm gonna keep my eye on the rest of
Speaker 1: training camp is Randy Ramsey at outside linebacker. This is
Speaker 1: a guy he went down in the fifth training camp
Speaker 1: practice last year a really nasty ankle injury. It was
Speaker 1: a couple of torn ankle ligaments, as well as a
Speaker 1: fractured fibula. He ended up being out almost to the
Speaker 1: day a calendar year, and he's now returned to practice.
Speaker 1: He's back out on the field. And while the Packers
Speaker 1: know that they're one and two edge rushers are Rashawn
Speaker 1: Gary and Preston Smith, number three on down the depth chart,
Speaker 1: however far it's going to go is absolutely wide open.
Speaker 1: And Randy Ramsey is a guy now that he's back
Speaker 1: on the field, and with how much this organization believes
Speaker 1: in him. When you only spend a fifth round pick
Speaker 1: at edge rusher and you don't sign any free agents
Speaker 1: in a year that you lose the Darius Smith and
Speaker 1: you really only have those top two guys has proven
Speaker 1: it says something with Brian gudokun Sen, the personnel department
Speaker 1: in Matt Lafleur, what they think of Randy Ramsey and
Speaker 1: what he could bring to this unit when he's healthy.
Speaker 1: So he's a guy in my mind to keep an
Speaker 1: eye on these next several weeks. Yeah, keep in mind too,
Speaker 1: I mean Randy Ramsey, this isn't his first rodeo. This
Speaker 1: is his fourth year in Green Bay now, I mean
Speaker 1: he was an undrafted free agent in two thousand nineteen
Speaker 1: that was on the practice squad and an impact player
Speaker 1: on special teams two years ago. He made that job
Speaker 1: the following year. He you know Ramsey, we talked to
Speaker 1: him a little bit before the injury, and you can
Speaker 1: tell his story and where he comes from, just just
Speaker 1: how motivated he is to make this thing go. And
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be an undrafted guy, or you're gonna
Speaker 1: be a late round pick like Jonathan Garvin was, or
Speaker 1: even to some you know, some extent kingsley A Nabari,
Speaker 1: these guys you couldn't ask for a better opportunity because
Speaker 1: the packers are literally saying, we got a guy in
Speaker 1: Preston Smith and another guy a budding star in Rashaan Gary,
Speaker 1: and when they're off the field, we need one of
Speaker 1: you young guys to relieve them. So that's where I
Speaker 1: feel like this competition it almost is somewhat like the
Speaker 1: receiver competition to some extent, where it's like guys need
Speaker 1: to step up and they're not gonna bring in somebody
Speaker 1: to take their place. They're asking you to give your
Speaker 1: best side of yourself to contribute to this cause. So
Speaker 1: teep A naly I, you look at a guy like
Speaker 1: Ladarius Hamilton's came in last year. I thought Hamilton's had
Speaker 1: some pretty good one on one reps. Opportunity is knocking
Speaker 1: big time at that position. These preseason games, Mike are
Speaker 1: going to be critical because for Ramsey's case, we got
Speaker 1: to see how they integrate him into this thing. But
Speaker 1: the truck's already moving with special teams, so it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, where are you going to be able to
Speaker 1: add potentially to this defense too? So and that that's where,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like with him being off, there's
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bit of a curve there to
Speaker 1: get back in this thing. But but certainly the Packers
Speaker 1: believe in the kid. They wouldn't have been along on
Speaker 1: this right as long as they have if they didn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely well with that, We're up against it, So we'll
Speaker 1: call it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted.
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