WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, November 5

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<v Speaker 1>It is Thursday, November five. This is Jaguars Happy Hour

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<v Speaker 1>and now sanitized by drones for your protection. J PCE

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<v Speaker 1>Shadrick Technologies grant visit it. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Jake Shadrick. Jeff Logoman coming up shortly.

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<v Speaker 1>We've got a busy show for you today. It's week nine.

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<v Speaker 1>The jackson the Houston Texans meet up this Sunday at

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<v Speaker 1>t i A bank fieldle preview the matchup this week

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<v Speaker 1>with the division rivals. Second meeting between the teams. Houston

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<v Speaker 1>got it done down in Houston back in week five.

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Luton, time rookie quarterback, will start this week for

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<v Speaker 1>the Jacksonville Jaguars. Will get Logs take on him. The

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<v Speaker 1>defense against a Shawn Watson. That's always the storyline. How

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<v Speaker 1>do you contain him and don't let him run around

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<v Speaker 1>all day long? If he gets in trouble in the pocket,

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<v Speaker 1>he has the ability to do that. There are COVID

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen concerns starting today in Houston. Three linebackers will not

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<v Speaker 1>be available for the game this week due to contact tracing.

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<v Speaker 1>A couple of the one positive and to contact tracings

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<v Speaker 1>will delve into that Tony Boselli joins the support thirty

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<v Speaker 1>today and the Doug Moron Show at five o'clock. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>hear from the head coach. We hear from Jeff Flagaman

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<v Speaker 1>now who joins us on. The program is always on

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday afternoons. And here we go logs, fresh off the by.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you rested, relaxed and ready for the stretcher run? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm ready to go. The buy is always good.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, I had a lot of productive days, i

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<v Speaker 1>will say, during the by and kept up with all

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<v Speaker 1>the sporting world and all the events with the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>so uh and actually got to relax and watch a

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<v Speaker 1>little football just as kind of a a fan. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of nice sometimes to do that, There's no

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<v Speaker 1>doubt about that. Enjoy those times while you get it.

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<v Speaker 1>But now the stretch run is here, and the Jaguars

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<v Speaker 1>are starting the stretch run with a new quarterback. Governer

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<v Speaker 1>Minshew has a thumb injury, so they're going with Jake Luton,

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<v Speaker 1>the rookie six round draft pick out of Oregon State.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll make his first career NFL appearance of any kind

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<v Speaker 1>this Sunday against the Houston Texans Doug Marone earlier this

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<v Speaker 1>week when asked about Luton and what do you expect

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<v Speaker 1>from the rookie? Well, I think the one thing is,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you look early on of of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>picking up the system. You know systems now, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>probably quite different than most college programs. You know, on

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<v Speaker 1>on play calls and and and things of that nature.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know there is bourbage, there's a there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot on on that plate, you know, for those for

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<v Speaker 1>those quarterbacks. So I guess the first thing I would

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<v Speaker 1>say I was, I was impressed with, you know, outside

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<v Speaker 1>of whatever physical ability. You know what I'm saying that

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<v Speaker 1>you guys, we all can see you know from his

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<v Speaker 1>college film is uh, you know, his ability to pick

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<v Speaker 1>it up alright, picking it up one thing logs, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's fine and dandy, knowing the system. But when

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<v Speaker 1>the lights come on and you walk out on the

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<v Speaker 1>field on Sunday, you'll you'll have J. J. Watt and

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<v Speaker 1>the Texans defense on the other side. What are your

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<v Speaker 1>first expectations, I guess for Luton this week, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>expectations for most rookies. I mean, not a whole lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it, Uh, you know, you're talking about a

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<v Speaker 1>tough situation to be and I think Jay Gruden had

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<v Speaker 1>a comment this week and just a couple of days ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know if we're gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 1>play this later on or not, but he said, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>Jake hasn't called a play our play, one of our

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<v Speaker 1>plays in our huddle since training camp. Think about that

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<v Speaker 1>for a minute. Okay, so the last time he was

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<v Speaker 1>in a huddle calling a Jaguars offensive play was all

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<v Speaker 1>the way back in training camp. So it's not like

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<v Speaker 1>he was in the huddle and he's been practicing the

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<v Speaker 1>verbiage of the j Gruden offense. It's in the Jaguars offense.

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<v Speaker 1>Hasn't happened. So the expectations for a young player in

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<v Speaker 1>that situation, I think it's low. But let me say this,

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<v Speaker 1>My expectations of his physical abilities is pretty high. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the performance may not be there initially because look,

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't had a lot of practice time. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>you had a bye week, it wasn't like they were

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<v Speaker 1>practicing four days during the bye to get Jake Luton

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<v Speaker 1>ready for this opportunity after the bye week. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been limited opportunity but I still think and I

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<v Speaker 1>believe that. I believe this going all the way back

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<v Speaker 1>to training camp when they made him the second quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>that made the roster on final cutdown day, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it should have stayed that way because he impressed me

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<v Speaker 1>that much JP and training camp, I thought he earned

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<v Speaker 1>the job to be the backup, But they chose to

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<v Speaker 1>bring Mike Glennan back after exposing him in the final

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<v Speaker 1>cuts because they just felt comfortable that Mike Glennon has

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<v Speaker 1>been around a little bit and maybe it wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>too for him. But in my opinion and training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Lewton earned the backup job, and in fact, and

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<v Speaker 1>part of my mind it was thinking he might earn

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<v Speaker 1>an opportunity to be able to compete for the starting

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<v Speaker 1>job because at times he showed the things that you

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<v Speaker 1>want in a franchise quarterback, which is he has great height,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got the vision to see over the line of scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got an NFL caliber arm. He can fit it

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<v Speaker 1>in the tight windows. He can throw the velocity balls

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<v Speaker 1>on the outs, the deep outs, and also into a

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<v Speaker 1>little short windows or small windows in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the field. So my expectations JP again aren't high. But

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<v Speaker 1>I also think, and I agree with Doug bron and

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<v Speaker 1>that when Doug Brown said his ceiling is high, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what he believes, I think a ceiling is high too.

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<v Speaker 1>But the thing that you just don't know about is

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<v Speaker 1>the mental makeup JP. When the live bullets start flying

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<v Speaker 1>and J. J. Watt starts rushing, uh and Za cunning

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<v Speaker 1>Ham starts coming at you in and all out, let's

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<v Speaker 1>what are you gonna do? Right? It's a different world

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<v Speaker 1>when when that happens sometimes. Now, I wonder the curious

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<v Speaker 1>thing I think a lot of people will ask going

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<v Speaker 1>into this game, and I'll be curious to see it

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<v Speaker 1>on Sunday is how different will the offense be called

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<v Speaker 1>with Luton? Will they open it up a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>with his ability to throw a deeper football down the field,

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<v Speaker 1>or will they be a little more conservative and mixing

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<v Speaker 1>that run game and and keep things safe for Looten?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, for me, Logs, you're throwing him out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's throw the ball around and see what this kid has. Sure, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but but but I will say this, I mean, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing. How advanced was the Jaguars playbook anyway? With

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<v Speaker 1>Gardner Mishew Garden Gardener Mitshew had and and the Jaguars

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<v Speaker 1>offense what seven games under his belt? Yes, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is seven games under j Gruden's offense to the playbook,

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't six inches thick for Gardner Minshew? Now, also, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Luton's coming in, we're gonna just you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna rink it down. Instead of six inches six we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna cut it down to a one inch playbook. It's

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's not how it was. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>the playbook will be it will shrink a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't. I don't think it's gonna shrink that much.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, do you maybe get a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>conservative nature with some of your play calling? Maybe, But

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<v Speaker 1>here's the reality. Weren't they kind of trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>conservative play calling with Gardner Minshew over the last number

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<v Speaker 1>of weeks? And weren't they talking about that going all

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<v Speaker 1>the way back to the last Houston matchup in the

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<v Speaker 1>week before that. I mean, so, it's not like you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do something drastically different and you're gonna change the

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<v Speaker 1>offense because of a different skill set with Jake Luton.

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<v Speaker 1>Your offense is your offense. You just need to find

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<v Speaker 1>a quarterback that connectecute it better. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Luton is gonna have a great opportunity on his hands.

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<v Speaker 1>And Doug Moron did not mince any word when he

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<v Speaker 1>was asked a question about well Gardner Minshew get his

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<v Speaker 1>job back. He said, look, if Jake Luton comes out

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<v Speaker 1>there and plays well, I mean, what what should you do? Well?

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<v Speaker 1>You should let him keep playing, you know, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be interesting to me JP. And and just another note,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with with Gardner Minshew, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>may be wondering what is a fracture and damage ligaments

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<v Speaker 1>and everything? What does that do with a quarterback? How

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<v Speaker 1>does that happen? And I've had them on both thumbs here,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna try to to show you visually what

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<v Speaker 1>if looks like that's had ligament and broken bones. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>both of them. Okay, they've both been in ways that

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<v Speaker 1>they shouldn't been, okay, And what happens is when a

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<v Speaker 1>thumb gets bent like this way, the ligament that is

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<v Speaker 1>basically spacing the gap pulls a little piece of bone

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<v Speaker 1>off with it. So I'm not the doctor in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm getting that it was something of this nature

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<v Speaker 1>with Gardner Minshew, because I remember when I had it

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<v Speaker 1>with both hands it was hard to grip. And with

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<v Speaker 1>Gardner throwing the highballs on occasion the last couple of

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<v Speaker 1>games that we saw him playing, losing the grip is

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<v Speaker 1>what means the ball. You can't hold it when you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be forceful and put velocity on it, and

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<v Speaker 1>so you lose your grip and the ball comes out

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<v Speaker 1>high and flies high. So that's my guess as to

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<v Speaker 1>what happened with Gardner Minshew, even though the Jaguars don't

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<v Speaker 1>talk medically and don't release that information, if I had

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<v Speaker 1>to guess, that's what it would have. Well, I just

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<v Speaker 1>know we we just saw your thumb do weird things

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<v Speaker 1>in high definition if you're watching on Jaguars dot com

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<v Speaker 1>and uh that that was quite interesting. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>the visual. I actually had just a quick cool story.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that you know when you when you play defensive

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<v Speaker 1>line or offensive line. I remember when I came in

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<v Speaker 1>the league, there was a guy that played offensive guard

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<v Speaker 1>and his name was Dan Alexander and Dan played at

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<v Speaker 1>UH I think it was Louisiana Tech. He was Louisiana guy.

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<v Speaker 1>We called him Cajun Dave, you know, and and Uh

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<v Speaker 1>or Cajun Dan. And he used to wear because back

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<v Speaker 1>in the early days of the National Football League, you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have gloves so to speak, you know, the the

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<v Speaker 1>Nike gloves or the Adidas gloves or the Newman gloves.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, back then the first cloves that were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of out, they were called Newman's. Well with the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>linemen back in the day, they were they we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have gloves. I mean, receivers caught with their hands and

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<v Speaker 1>you stick them and Uh and the offensive line to

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<v Speaker 1>protect their hands because their hands are so exposed, they

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<v Speaker 1>would actually wear a gardening glove, I mean like old

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<v Speaker 1>fashioned leather gardening gloves. Dan used to wear these old

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<v Speaker 1>leather gardening gloves and he'd have on the old spot

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<v Speaker 1>built shoes cleats for turf that will looked like boots,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like literally like like work boots, and he

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<v Speaker 1>would take these gloves up. But they did that to

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<v Speaker 1>protect the hands because as offensive lineman and defensive lineman,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you catch something the wrong way and fingers

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<v Speaker 1>can just go, you know, in ways that they shouldn't go,

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<v Speaker 1>and that brought around the advent of gloves and everything

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<v Speaker 1>of that nature. But you know, gloves didn't even start

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<v Speaker 1>becoming popular in football probably until about the early nineties

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<v Speaker 1>when Newman were the first ones that came out with it.

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<v Speaker 1>When they did, at first a lot of guys were

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<v Speaker 1>resisted to doing it, but then they realized how well

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<v Speaker 1>it could protect their hands, and then everybody started using them.

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<v Speaker 1>And he can go right back home after the game

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<v Speaker 1>and do some gardening outside trim to change gloves. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's perfect. Here's another thought about Gardner Minshew here. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think everybody kind of understands maybe why he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>He wants to stay on the field. Obviously, he knows

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<v Speaker 1>his situation here and this was this is is his

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<v Speaker 1>year to show that he was a franchise guy. This

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<v Speaker 1>was an opportunity. So the story is that he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>tell the team that he had this injury and they

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<v Speaker 1>found out officially during the bye week. Where are you

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<v Speaker 1>on that it's not obviously Doug Moron talked about it

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<v Speaker 1>this week where he he wants players to be forthright

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, the medical crew can help the player

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<v Speaker 1>maybe get back, but when it goes the other way

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<v Speaker 1>it sometimes can hurt the football team. To where do

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<v Speaker 1>you stand on this or I stand on that? First off,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm amazed that a starting quarterback for a football team

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't communicate to the organization that he's got a thumb issue.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's like a JP for baseball fans. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like having Nolan Ryan not tell the Houston Astros

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<v Speaker 1>or the Rangers. I mean that they looking up I'm

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<v Speaker 1>having a hard time throwing because my thumb is having

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<v Speaker 1>an issue. I mean, that's crazy to me. Um. So,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously that's not a situation that you want to have

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<v Speaker 1>because the expectation is that you should have excellent communication

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<v Speaker 1>between your starting quarterback and the coaching staff, the training staff,

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<v Speaker 1>and the organization as a whole. And obviously that wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the case with Gardener Minsho. And I do understand to

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<v Speaker 1>some extent that, look, hey, he wants to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to keep his job. It's as an opportunity to be

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<v Speaker 1>starting quarterback, and he doesn't want to be told, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we got to take you out of there, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>trying to suck it up and play play through it

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<v Speaker 1>and all that. I mean, I understand that part of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But look, your performance was lacking the last couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>That certainly was affecting you in the Chargers game. And

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<v Speaker 1>uh and I'm you know, And the one thing I

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<v Speaker 1>will say JP is that Gardner Minshew has never been

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<v Speaker 1>super accurate on the intermediate to long stuff, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>never had great velocity on his ball. Um He's always

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<v Speaker 1>thrown the ball a little bit where it's got a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of an arc on it. And we've never

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<v Speaker 1>said that he has a weak arm. But we've never

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<v Speaker 1>said that he has a strong arm. So if he

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<v Speaker 1>loses a little velocity or if he loses a little accuracy,

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<v Speaker 1>then maybe you don't notice it as much with a

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<v Speaker 1>Gardner Minshew compared to like, let's say Dan Rino. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if it Dan Reno usually throws ninety and also Unneth

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<v Speaker 1>throwing seventy, then you notice it, whereas Gardner Minshew's probably

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<v Speaker 1>throwing sixty and then all of a sudden, now he's

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<v Speaker 1>throwing fifty, you know. And not not trying to be

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<v Speaker 1>funny here, but I'm just trying to give you an

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<v Speaker 1>analogy of the different speeds and how sometimes it can

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<v Speaker 1>be hard to tell. Maybe if a guy has an

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<v Speaker 1>injured thumb. You know. So from the team standpoint, the

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<v Speaker 1>trainer standpoint, unless he tells them, they don't know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>all you know is that he just missed d J.

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<v Speaker 1>Chark ten yards over his head. That's just a bad throw, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's the first reaction. That was my first reacting,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in the first throw that he had in

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<v Speaker 1>a game against the Charges. My reaction wasn't, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>he can't grip the ball. He must have a thumb injury,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So it's it's a shame that had happened,

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<v Speaker 1>but the reality is that it did and uh and

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<v Speaker 1>so it presents an opportunity and a great opportunity for

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<v Speaker 1>Jake Luton. Jake Luton, sixth round rookie getting started this

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<v Speaker 1>Plenty of A had more on this a little later

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<v Speaker 1>Jaguars defense and see if they can develop that pass rush.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been a talking point all season long, hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really happened yet, got about half a season to go

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<v Speaker 1>to see if those young guys can get going and

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<v Speaker 1>the matchup this week against the Shawn Watson and the Texans. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>you remember back in week five, they had a big

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<v Speaker 1>day through the air. Brandon Cooks had a huge day

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred sixty one yards touchdown, eight catches. On the game,

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<v Speaker 1>Deshaun Watson throws for three fifty nine and three scores.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't think two interceptions in that game. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>the defense, you know they're in that string right now,

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<v Speaker 1>struggling obviously, thirty point games in the last six times

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<v Speaker 1>out there in all six losses. So where do you

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<v Speaker 1>start on defense this week to get things turned the

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<v Speaker 1>right way? Are you hiding behind your break here? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm starting right here because if you actually look at

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<v Speaker 1>the last matchup, this is my game board from the

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<v Speaker 1>Houston Texans game, and let's see, uh no c j Henderson,

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<v Speaker 1>uh no, Josh Allen, um no, Miles Jack. You didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have Cindy Jones in there until a little bit later,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So look, when you play a football team

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<v Speaker 1>and you're depleted, you know, the reality is it's tough.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the positive thing for the Jaguars defensively

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<v Speaker 1>this week is that you're gonna have I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to say all hands on deck because you know Avery

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<v Speaker 1>Jones is on I R. But you're gonna get Miles Jack,

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<v Speaker 1>I think is the expectation you could end up getting

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<v Speaker 1>your safety Jared Wilson back. Uh. C J Henderson is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to play in this game. Josh Allen

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<v Speaker 1>is two two weeks now back in action and also

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<v Speaker 1>having the extra week with the bye, his knee should

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<v Speaker 1>be better, you know. So, Uh, it's a better situation

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<v Speaker 1>for the Jaguars. But JP, make no mistake about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if you're healthy, it's a it's a pretty strong

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<v Speaker 1>test to be able to face a Deshaun Watson. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The one thing that Deshaun Watson hasn't had going for

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<v Speaker 1>him this year for the most part, is a running game.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's why the Texans were so good last year

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<v Speaker 1>is that they had a pretty strong running game and

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<v Speaker 1>it took a lot of pressure off of Deshaun Watson.

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<v Speaker 1>And this year the ranked dead last in the National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League running the ball as an offense. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not a very good number. But the last time

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<v Speaker 1>they played, David Johnson had seventeen carries for ninety six yards.

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<v Speaker 1>If if you're gonna beat the Texans this time, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't allow that to happen, you know so, Uh, you

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<v Speaker 1>better worrying about be worried about stopping and run first

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<v Speaker 1>and then you can worry about Deshaun Watson. And once

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<v Speaker 1>you get to Deshaun Watson, JP, we all know it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it's a very specific, hard to execute game plan.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I say very specific in that your goal

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<v Speaker 1>is to keep DeShawn Watson in the pocket to build

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<v Speaker 1>kind of this moat around him. But the problem is

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<v Speaker 1>you can't just build the moat and then be happy

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<v Speaker 1>with that, because then he's just gonna sit back there

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<v Speaker 1>in his castle and just you know, throw docs and

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<v Speaker 1>be able to throw the ball deep though some very

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<v Speaker 1>speedy receivers. So you need to find a way somehow

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<v Speaker 1>to get pressure without taking a lot of chances, so

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<v Speaker 1>that all of a sudden you have a breakdown in

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<v Speaker 1>your moat and all of a sudden he escapes, and

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<v Speaker 1>then all of a sudden, you're expecting a defensive back

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<v Speaker 1>to cover for another four or five seconds. And and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the challenge of Deshaun Watson. And not only that,

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<v Speaker 1>but hey, the reality is he can take off and

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<v Speaker 1>run for thirty rds if you got back turn and

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<v Speaker 1>you're in man coverage. So, uh, tough challenge this week.

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<v Speaker 1>And it becomes really really tough if they're running the

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<v Speaker 1>football well like they did the last meeting. I never

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<v Speaker 1>thought we would have talked about moats and castles on

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<v Speaker 1>this show today, but we've gone there like that. I

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<v Speaker 1>like that analogy. Yes, that was very nice. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but now I'm curious about the development of these pass

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<v Speaker 1>rushers overall. You know, the scores have not been great

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<v Speaker 1>for them to be able to get after the quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>a lot in those situations, that's one thing. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they've been close. Allen's been there. He's been banged up

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<v Speaker 1>now the last little bit and he's back on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine. He's got nine games left this year to

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<v Speaker 1>really get going. Chase on how's his development going. I

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<v Speaker 1>know they're doing a lot of extra work after practice

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<v Speaker 1>every day, talking to Joey Bosa after the game on

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<v Speaker 1>the field in l A. They're doing everything they can.

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<v Speaker 1>But at some point, the Rubbers gotta hit the road

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<v Speaker 1>during the game and they've got to get to the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback a little more often. Yes, and I'm all all

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<v Speaker 1>for it, And uh, they're not doing a very good job.

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<v Speaker 1>J p Um. The reality is, if if you like,

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<v Speaker 1>you go back to the game two weeks ago against

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<v Speaker 1>the Chargers. The only guy that was having wins as

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<v Speaker 1>a pass rusher was Josh Allen, and Josh wasn't completely healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it wasn't like Josh was just crushing guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it was he was doing a pretty good job,

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<v Speaker 1>not as good as Josh Allen can do, and nobody

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you it's hard to play all the instruments

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<v Speaker 1>by yourself at a live concert. But Caleban Chase on

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<v Speaker 1>has got to find a way to have what I

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<v Speaker 1>call the hands and the hips kind of married together.

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<v Speaker 1>And what does he have? One sack on the year?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that right? I think it's one sack on, Yeah,

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:56.240
<v Speaker 1>it's one sack. But here's the reality. The one sack

0:24:56.359 --> 0:24:58.720
<v Speaker 1>that he got, I don't want to say it was

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<v Speaker 1>anything that he did a great pass rusher to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to get that sack. It's kind of one of

0:25:02.920 --> 0:25:05.080
<v Speaker 1>those sacks that every now and again you'd like to get.

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<v Speaker 1>You fall into him and but his hips and his

0:25:08.640 --> 0:25:12.640
<v Speaker 1>and his arms or hands aren't working together. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the one thing I think that concerns me. You know

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<v Speaker 1>when I when I watched him in training camp, I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>really thought, and was very impressed with his hands because

0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:21.240
<v Speaker 1>he was using his hands, and a lot of young

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.320
<v Speaker 1>players don't learn to use their hands. They just try

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:26.080
<v Speaker 1>to run around guys and be faster than another guy

0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:29.040
<v Speaker 1>or be stronger than another guy. But they soon find

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<v Speaker 1>out at the National Football League level, you actually have

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<v Speaker 1>to have a plan. I mean, even the great Reggie White,

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<v Speaker 1>who was just so dominant physically, actually had a plan.

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Reggie's plan was he was gonna take you down the

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<v Speaker 1>middle and run you over. And then the next plan

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<v Speaker 1>was is that once you started sitting heavy, he was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get you to sit heavy and then give you

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<v Speaker 1>a little juke and then give you a power rip

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<v Speaker 1>to the outside. And then once you started to sit

0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 1>on the power rip on the outside, if that didn't work,

0:25:57.640 --> 0:25:59.919
<v Speaker 1>he was gonna hump your butt about six yards up

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<v Speaker 1>the field because he was so strong. So even Reggie

0:26:03.040 --> 0:26:06.240
<v Speaker 1>White had a great plan. Lawrence Taylor had a great plan.

0:26:06.320 --> 0:26:08.080
<v Speaker 1>If you got a great get off, he was chopping

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<v Speaker 1>and ripping to get to the outside, and if he

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<v Speaker 1>was a little bit laid off the ball, he would chop.

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking that they're letting the offensive lineman know that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going outside. But Laura's Taylor would chop down and then

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<v Speaker 1>immediately spend to the inside. So even the great pass rushers,

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.959
<v Speaker 1>they weren't just like these dominant, physically gifted pass rushers.

0:26:26.000 --> 0:26:29.800
<v Speaker 1>You actually have to learn technique and setting guys up.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's what Calaman chaded on is figuring

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<v Speaker 1>out right now. And then in college it was a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit easier. And now you have to have your

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<v Speaker 1>hands and your hips working together, but then you also

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<v Speaker 1>have to have your mind working with your hands and

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<v Speaker 1>your hips, so you can have a plan when you

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<v Speaker 1>rush the passer. And it's tough. He's having a tough time, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know at some point um it'll start to click.

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I think for those guys. How about the interior play

0:26:54.800 --> 0:26:58.000
<v Speaker 1>last time out, Davon Hamilton, the rookie out of Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 1>Avery Jones was not there course, so he kind of

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<v Speaker 1>stepped into that role in the interior and it was

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<v Speaker 1>certainly the best game he's had so far as a rookie,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was a really bright spot and in a

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<v Speaker 1>in a year where there aren't many bright spots on defense,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that was a very good development for this organization.

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<v Speaker 1>Well down. Hamilton's the third round pick, and so your

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<v Speaker 1>expectation with a third round pick is that he's a starter,

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<v Speaker 1>and it should be um as a third round pick,

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:30.160
<v Speaker 1>and he's a big dude, big dude. This past game,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was his best game, and I thought

0:27:32.960 --> 0:27:35.440
<v Speaker 1>he did a really good job, and and I expected

0:27:35.520 --> 0:27:38.080
<v Speaker 1>him to do better this past game. And the reason

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:40.960
<v Speaker 1>I expected him to do better was that Poenie, who

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<v Speaker 1>is the starting center for the Chargers, who took over

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:49.399
<v Speaker 1>for the uh the center Pouncy who was injured. And

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<v Speaker 1>Phoenie had been a guard in the past. But Poenie's

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<v Speaker 1>not a like he's. He's a little straight legged, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not super strong, he doesn't play real load to the ground.

0:27:58.480 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 1>He does play with a lot of leverage. So I

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<v Speaker 1>expected somebody who's big and strong like Devon Hamilton's to

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<v Speaker 1>play well against Feeney, and he did, and it was

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:09.080
<v Speaker 1>good to see. And and even if it's against the

0:28:09.119 --> 0:28:11.720
<v Speaker 1>guy that's not super physical or super strong, it's good

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:13.920
<v Speaker 1>to see because when you go against the guy you

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<v Speaker 1>think you should play well against, you gotta play well

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>against him. And he did. That so, so that's good

0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:20.399
<v Speaker 1>and I hope it's something that he can build off of.

0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:23.480
<v Speaker 1>And uh, and also in the meantime to continue to

0:28:23.520 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>get better and anticipate. And I was talking to somebody

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>about this earlier in the week. JP, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>go back, because you know I'm talking about how big

0:28:31.480 --> 0:28:34.359
<v Speaker 1>and strong Devon Hamilton's is. You go back in the

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:39.280
<v Speaker 1>early days of Jaguar's history, and and John Jurkovic, who

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 1>was a defensive tackle, and he and Joe Fortunato and JP.

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you ever had a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>meet him, maybe if he came back for alumni day

0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 1>or something that Joe remembers him. He might have had

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the the worst body in the National Football League. I

0:28:53.520 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>mean literally, the guy didn't look like he could play football.

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>The guy didn't look like he ever played football. He

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>might have played a little, you know, high school ball,

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>maybe a little called small college ball, because he was

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of around around guy. And UH. And if

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:11.880
<v Speaker 1>he told you at the bar and you never knew

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 1>who he was and just met him, he tells you

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:15.920
<v Speaker 1>he's an NFL player, You're like, you're so full of it.

0:29:16.280 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that would be your reaction but he was

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:21.360
<v Speaker 1>he was a good player, and he was a good

0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:25.200
<v Speaker 1>player doing large part because he could anticipate blocks. He

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<v Speaker 1>could anticipate if I'm playing a shade on a nose

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>one way, that guard's coming down and I'm getting a

0:29:31.200 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 1>double team, I can I can dig my left hip

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<v Speaker 1>or my right hip, depend on which side of the

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<v Speaker 1>senator that I'm on down and hold the point and

0:29:38.840 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>anticipate where that pressure is coming from. Or if the

0:29:42.640 --> 0:29:45.760
<v Speaker 1>guards coming down, centers pulling around, I can immediately play

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:49.600
<v Speaker 1>over here to the guard and now I'm fighting against

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<v Speaker 1>pressure and and for a large part of the early

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<v Speaker 1>part of the season, Devon Hamilton's wasn't anticipating and you

0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:58.280
<v Speaker 1>can be big and strong, but the reality is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the other guys that you're playing again big

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<v Speaker 1>and strong too, And so he was getting knocked around

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, you know so, and so when you

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<v Speaker 1>went to anticipate, you can play stronger, be stronger and

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<v Speaker 1>UH and hopefully the more reps he gets, the better

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<v Speaker 1>he becomes in the better pass rusher that he can be.

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<v Speaker 1>Because there was a third round pick, the expectation as

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<v Speaker 1>you need to be able to UH to be a

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<v Speaker 1>decent pass rusher as a defensive tackle. In my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>if you if you drop somebody in the third round,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gotta have some pass rushing potential too, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think he's got a little bit and he's getting better

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<v Speaker 1>at it. All right, Loves, let's come back in a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be easy, you know, for a rookie first game.

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't taken a lot of ups with the first team.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, I don't think he's called off play one

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<v Speaker 1>of our players in the huddleson's training camp. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it will not be easy for him. Uh, it's his

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<v Speaker 1>the right progressions, handles himself in protections, gets the ball

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<v Speaker 1>right what he's been taught this whole process. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a great challenge for him, but we

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<v Speaker 1>feel good about his demeanor, his work ethic. We feel

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<v Speaker 1>wait and see. But we'll do the best we can

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<v Speaker 1>to uh make it as easy as possible for him.

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<v Speaker 1>That's offensive coordinator Jay Gruden earlier this week discussing Jake Luton,

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<v Speaker 1>J P Shadrick, Jeff Lagerman, and Tony Basselli joins us

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<v Speaker 1>now from way out in Ponto Vedra Beach, Florida. Tony, good, afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up? What's up? JP? Logs? Are we doing okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Ready for some football? Yes? Jake? Hey, listen? Jake Luten Yeah, Luke,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think? Tony? Are you? What's what is

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<v Speaker 1>your expectation for his performance on Sunday? I have zero

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<v Speaker 1>expectations because here's a guy who's a rookie. Um has

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<v Speaker 1>never taken a snap in an NFL game, had no

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<v Speaker 1>preseason no o t as, limited reps in training camp,

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<v Speaker 1>limited reps in the regular season as the third string quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>Um is a six round draft pick. Um. I have

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<v Speaker 1>zero expectations. He's being put in a very tough spot. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wish him the best. I mean, we saw

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<v Speaker 1>limited reps of them in training camp. When we saw him,

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<v Speaker 1>he looked good. Um. He has a big arm. He

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<v Speaker 1>looks like he's accurate. But the last time he faced

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 1>a pass rush, guys, was in the Mighty Pack twelve. Um.

0:36:45.480 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 1>And it's gonna be a little bit different speed and

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:50.919
<v Speaker 1>feel out there on Sunday. Uh, if they do play

0:36:51.080 --> 0:36:58.560
<v Speaker 1>based on the COVID situation with Houston, Yeah, no doubt.

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:01.359
<v Speaker 1>That's Uh, that's a It is quite a task for him,

0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:03.800
<v Speaker 1>you know. But it's one of those where a JP

0:37:04.280 --> 0:37:07.359
<v Speaker 1>we were talking about we we got Yeah, we gotta

0:37:07.400 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 1>go back to what what J Grud said there, and

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:12.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean think about that for a minute. Yeah, he

0:37:12.960 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 1>said that he hasn't called one of our plays and

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 1>our huddle since training camp. I mean so, I mean

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Tony's right, I mean, the expectation is is not there.

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.719
<v Speaker 1>It's not high, and uh, you know, you just you

0:37:28.840 --> 0:37:31.880
<v Speaker 1>just hope that the young man has a knack and

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:34.800
<v Speaker 1>that he's he can allow some of his physical talents,

0:37:34.880 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>which we clearly saw in training camp and in the

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:40.879
<v Speaker 1>scrimmage that allows some of those physical talents to carry

0:37:41.000 --> 0:37:43.320
<v Speaker 1>him a little bit. And and the also the positive

0:37:43.360 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>thing is is that his last year of Oregon State,

0:37:47.560 --> 0:37:52.080
<v Speaker 1>he was very good at protecting the football touchdowns I

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:55.120
<v Speaker 1>think or something of that nature and three interceptions. I mean,

0:37:55.200 --> 0:37:58.400
<v Speaker 1>that's that's an incredible ratio. And if he can do

0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:02.600
<v Speaker 1>that same type of thing with Jaguars, then awesome, awesome.

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 1>But like Tony said, the expectation is low, but at

0:38:07.160 --> 0:38:10.239
<v Speaker 1>the same token, the opportunity is very high for a

0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:14.960
<v Speaker 1>young quarterback in this situation. What's that first huddle going

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 1>to be Like? If you're a veteran offensive lineman and

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:21.320
<v Speaker 1>and here's Jake Luton out here calling plays in the huddle,

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 1>it's gotta be a little bit. Not that Gardner Minshew's

0:38:23.719 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 1>a salty vet. I mean they're both young guys. Anyway, Well,

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:31.359
<v Speaker 1>and I got my I can't remember that. UM, maybe

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Jeff can but and I think it was nine seven. UM.

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Margaret Dog got hurt in training camp and we started

0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the season with Rob Johnson. Rob Johnson got hurt in

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:48.200
<v Speaker 1>week one, finished the game, but got hurt week one,

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:50.680
<v Speaker 1>and we had to have our third string quarterback, Matthews.

0:38:50.760 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember his first name of the life of me.

0:38:52.640 --> 0:38:58.400
<v Speaker 1>For whatever reason, Steve Matthews and Steve Matthews knew about

0:38:58.680 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Um through pass plays and six run plays that he

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 1>actually could call on the huddle, and it was a

0:39:05.400 --> 0:39:08.800
<v Speaker 1>struggle for him to get him out. And and so

0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:11.719
<v Speaker 1>the key in those situations everyone else has to rise

0:39:11.760 --> 0:39:13.640
<v Speaker 1>to the occasion. Everyone else has to play better. And

0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 1>we knew it, and we knew the situation where we're in.

0:39:15.840 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>We knew we had a guy that was gonna struggle

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 1>be comfortable, a guy who's gonna struggle to communicate UM.

0:39:22.040 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 1>And it was gonna be a very simple game plan.

0:39:23.960 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 1>And all we ended up doing is going to scoring

0:39:25.719 --> 0:39:27.920
<v Speaker 1>I think forty three points. Now, the defense played very well,

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 1>got some turtle words for us, and we ran the

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 1>ball and we had big plays to Jimmy Smith and

0:39:32.800 --> 0:39:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Kingo Cardell. But I think we literally called you know,

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:39.640
<v Speaker 1>probably a total of ten different plays on that Sunday,

0:39:39.880 --> 0:39:42.480
<v Speaker 1>and the owners came on everyone else. The offensive line

0:39:42.480 --> 0:39:44.720
<v Speaker 1>has to block better. You have to keep a clean pocket,

0:39:44.800 --> 0:39:46.719
<v Speaker 1>you have to run block, you have to be you

0:39:46.800 --> 0:39:48.880
<v Speaker 1>have to control the line of scrimmage. Receiver has got

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>to create space. Um, you know, the back's gotta run hard.

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:54.680
<v Speaker 1>Tight ends got to do their thing. I mean it, really,

0:39:54.960 --> 0:39:57.359
<v Speaker 1>the onness comes on everyone else. Now, you can't put

0:39:57.480 --> 0:40:00.680
<v Speaker 1>this on Jake Luton. It's not fair. He's not ready.

0:40:00.719 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 1>I don't care how talented he is. I don't care

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:04.960
<v Speaker 1>what the story is. You know he has, he has

0:40:05.000 --> 0:40:07.640
<v Speaker 1>a big arm, all those different things. I'm excited to

0:40:07.719 --> 0:40:12.200
<v Speaker 1>see what he can do. It'll be interesting. Um, but

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:15.719
<v Speaker 1>let's be honest. There's a reason he was a six

0:40:15.840 --> 0:40:18.319
<v Speaker 1>round draft pick, and not that guy's lating the draft

0:40:18.360 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 1>can't perform at a high level, and not that scouts

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:23.240
<v Speaker 1>don't miss some people. So I'm not taking a shot

0:40:23.560 --> 0:40:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Jake Luton. But you gotta be honest with yourself, and

0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 1>you gotta be realistic, and you have to understand that

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:29.160
<v Speaker 1>we're not going to ask this kid to do too

0:40:29.280 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 1>much because if we do, most likely it'll be a

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:36.920
<v Speaker 1>complete failure. Alright. So so I'm gonna bring this up.

0:40:37.000 --> 0:40:39.480
<v Speaker 1>And and it's obviously tongue in cheek. Tom Brady was

0:40:39.520 --> 0:40:45.600
<v Speaker 1>a six round pick. Yeah, but Jeff, but you're you're right.

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:47.560
<v Speaker 1>Let me say something real quick. That's a good job

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 1>because you're right. And but let's not forget um it

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:52.840
<v Speaker 1>was I think it was the second year when he

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 1>finally got in there midway through the season. Um. And

0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 1>if you think back to the early years of Tom Brady,

0:40:58.239 --> 0:41:00.920
<v Speaker 1>tom Brady did not carry that to It's not the

0:41:01.000 --> 0:41:03.800
<v Speaker 1>tom Brady we know now or in the in the

0:41:04.120 --> 0:41:08.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, the last career, the first quarter of his career.

0:41:08.320 --> 0:41:11.359
<v Speaker 1>It was a defensive team. They ran the ball. They're

0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 1>one of the best defenses in the NFL. That's how

0:41:13.640 --> 0:41:20.000
<v Speaker 1>they won the Super Bowl, that's how everyone else and

0:41:20.080 --> 0:41:23.319
<v Speaker 1>allowed Tom Brady to get into it. Yeah, they had

0:41:23.400 --> 0:41:25.719
<v Speaker 1>did a very good defense. And I obviously said that

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>tongue in cheek, but you know, I think the one

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:29.520
<v Speaker 1>thing that they can do. You know, when Tony JP

0:41:29.719 --> 0:41:31.800
<v Speaker 1>is talking about, Okay, we only had ten plays for

0:41:31.880 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Steve Matthews, and there's nothing wrong with having ten plays,

0:41:36.200 --> 0:41:37.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, because the one thing I think that you

0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:40.360
<v Speaker 1>can do sometimes is you can dress up those ten plays.

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:41.960
<v Speaker 1>You can put a skirt on it, you can put

0:41:41.960 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 1>a dress on it, you can put jeans on it.

0:41:44.200 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 1>What I mean by that is you can window dress it.

0:41:46.560 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>So you might be running the same you might be

0:41:48.320 --> 0:41:50.839
<v Speaker 1>running ten plays, but one play, if it's run the same,

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:53.719
<v Speaker 1>might look you know, four different ways based on a

0:41:53.800 --> 0:41:56.360
<v Speaker 1>formation or emotion or a way that you get to it.

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.879
<v Speaker 1>And so it's kind of a way to simplify things

0:42:00.040 --> 0:42:02.680
<v Speaker 1>without making it simple for the defense to figure out

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:06.320
<v Speaker 1>exactly what you're gonna do. But you know, it's I

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:08.600
<v Speaker 1>think it's a It's an exciting time for Jake Luton

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:11.320
<v Speaker 1>and Tony's right. I mean the expectations are low, but

0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:14.000
<v Speaker 1>at the same token, after what I've seen out of

0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Gardner Minshew the last couple of weeks, I'm ready to

0:42:16.200 --> 0:42:19.320
<v Speaker 1>see something different. I'm ready to see somebody execute the

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:22.279
<v Speaker 1>offense at a better rate. I'm looking at board and

0:42:22.400 --> 0:42:26.360
<v Speaker 1>seeing a quarterback trust his pockets to stay in the pocket,

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:28.480
<v Speaker 1>to keep his eyes down the field and go through

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:31.640
<v Speaker 1>a progression, and then also to be able throw somebody open,

0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, with with arm strength and fitting it in

0:42:34.280 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 1>the tight windows, because I haven't seen much of that

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>from Gardner. Minshew, Jeff, do you think and you know

0:42:41.760 --> 0:42:45.440
<v Speaker 1>based on what you just said? Um, because I agree

0:42:45.440 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 1>with all that, I think you're dead on. But I

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:49.839
<v Speaker 1>had big questions. I mean, I don't know if he's

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:51.719
<v Speaker 1>going to get good in the pocket. I don't know

0:42:51.760 --> 0:42:53.799
<v Speaker 1>if he's gonna be comfortable with the rush. I don't

0:42:53.800 --> 0:42:55.920
<v Speaker 1>know if he's gonna step up. I don't know if

0:42:56.040 --> 0:42:58.080
<v Speaker 1>if the first guy is not open, if his eyes

0:42:58.160 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 1>go down and start looking around a way to escape.

0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm interested what happens the first time he gets hit

0:43:03.600 --> 0:43:07.080
<v Speaker 1>in the chops by J. J. Watt and now all

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:09.319
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden it's came on. Is he started looking

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 1>at the rush? Does he take his eye eyes off

0:43:12.239 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 1>down the field? I have no idea. All I know

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 1>about this kid is that he is a big arm.

0:43:17.480 --> 0:43:20.040
<v Speaker 1>He looks the part. I don't know. I mean, I'm

0:43:20.040 --> 0:43:21.680
<v Speaker 1>not even sure how great of an athlete is he

0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:23.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to run around and buy a time.

0:43:23.560 --> 0:43:26.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know in training camp that's easy.

0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:29.800
<v Speaker 1>But those are all things that I have no idea

0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 1>what to expect, and anyone outside that coaching staff, and

0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 1>even the coaching staff doesn't know because they've never seen

0:43:36.400 --> 0:43:40.520
<v Speaker 1>him do it in any game, not in the preseason nothing.

0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 1>They they he has never been back there where the

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:47.320
<v Speaker 1>thought that if he holds the ball too long or

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:49.640
<v Speaker 1>if he steps up in the pocket, a three d

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:51.560
<v Speaker 1>pound defensive tackles is gonna hit him as hard as

0:43:51.600 --> 0:43:53.400
<v Speaker 1>he can right in the chest as he's delivering it.

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's definitely is seven on seven. One good

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:02.120
<v Speaker 1>thing Tony Uh we talked about j J Walk coming

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:05.320
<v Speaker 1>in is that Jaguars did a pretty good job on

0:44:05.440 --> 0:44:08.759
<v Speaker 1>j J the last time in the last matchup. Yeah,

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Whitney Merciless was the one that I think had a

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:16.200
<v Speaker 1>pretty significant impact in that ball game. And as of

0:44:16.440 --> 0:44:20.680
<v Speaker 1>right now, Whitney Merciless is not playing in this game

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:26.719
<v Speaker 1>against the Jaguars. So positive. Yeah, let's compatible and we'll

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 1>get into that situation in Houston. We'll talk about that

0:44:30.520 --> 0:44:33.759
<v Speaker 1>COVID nineteens situation there for the Texans when we come back.

0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:37.279
<v Speaker 1>We'll hear from Josh Allen as well and get some

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:39.920
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<v Speaker 1>I'm just ready to play. You know, we gotta play

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:38.439
<v Speaker 1>with the cars that we'll dealt with, but they gotta

0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:39.920
<v Speaker 1>play with the cards that they will dealt with, and

0:48:40.360 --> 0:48:45.360
<v Speaker 1>let's just see how it goes. Sunday, dr Allen discussing

0:48:45.560 --> 0:48:49.520
<v Speaker 1>the Houston Texans COVID nineteen situation and welcome back to

0:48:49.880 --> 0:48:53.720
<v Speaker 1>Jaguars Happy Hour On this Thursday, JP Shadrick, Jeff Lockman,

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Tony was elly with us as well. The Texans have

0:48:56.600 --> 0:49:00.840
<v Speaker 1>placed three linebackers on the COVID nineteen reserve list. Jacob

0:49:00.920 --> 0:49:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Martin tested positive for COVID nineteen reportedly, but linebackers Whitney

0:49:06.320 --> 0:49:09.799
<v Speaker 1>Merciless and Dylan Cole will also miss this week's game.

0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:12.279
<v Speaker 1>They must test negative for five days in a row

0:49:12.520 --> 0:49:16.640
<v Speaker 1>because of contact tracing, so three linebackers not available for

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:19.759
<v Speaker 1>the Texans this week against the Jaguars, and now, of

0:49:19.840 --> 0:49:23.160
<v Speaker 1>course concerns about the status of the game as well.

0:49:23.320 --> 0:49:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Romeo Cornell said today that the league wants to play

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:29.000
<v Speaker 1>the game if possible, and they'll wait until tomorrow before

0:49:29.080 --> 0:49:33.360
<v Speaker 1>making a decision at the latest Saturday, when the Texans travel.

0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:37.279
<v Speaker 1>So still some question marks, guys about this game. But um,

0:49:37.760 --> 0:49:40.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, three linebackers not coming, that's a that's a

0:49:40.120 --> 0:49:44.160
<v Speaker 1>big chunk on that defensive sidebogs. Yeah, and and I

0:49:44.200 --> 0:49:46.680
<v Speaker 1>will say that JP. I mean the three linebackers you're

0:49:46.719 --> 0:49:50.280
<v Speaker 1>talking about, the one that supposedly tested positive with Jacob Martin,

0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:55.360
<v Speaker 1>and then you have the the high uh incidents of

0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:58.640
<v Speaker 1>contact with Whitney Merciless and Dylan Cole. So that's three.

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:02.880
<v Speaker 1>But then you go to a fourth linebacker, which is

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Kyle Emmanuel who did not practice the last couple of

0:50:05.760 --> 0:50:09.680
<v Speaker 1>days because of a concussion. So in reality, they could

0:50:09.719 --> 0:50:12.240
<v Speaker 1>be short four linebackers, three of them due to COVID,

0:50:12.320 --> 0:50:15.000
<v Speaker 1>one of them because of a concussion. So that would

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:22.320
<v Speaker 1>leave the Texans with Zack Cunningham, UH, Peter Colombay, Tyrrell Adams,

0:50:22.440 --> 0:50:25.799
<v Speaker 1>Jonathan Greening, and Brendan Scarlett. But you gotta remember now,

0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:28.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean some of these guys are like hybrid defensive

0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:32.240
<v Speaker 1>end linebackers that are not true linebackers. So the Texans

0:50:32.280 --> 0:50:34.560
<v Speaker 1>are gonna have to dip into that practice squad I

0:50:34.600 --> 0:50:40.400
<v Speaker 1>would imagine for this Jaguars game this weekend. Yeah, big change, Tony,

0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:42.120
<v Speaker 1>and you know, we'll see you the next day or

0:50:42.160 --> 0:50:45.319
<v Speaker 1>so if there's any more positives that pop up down there.

0:50:45.320 --> 0:50:48.000
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully not, Hopefully this game goes on a schedule this week.

0:50:49.280 --> 0:50:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, I mean you hope so, I mean number one,

0:50:51.640 --> 0:50:53.680
<v Speaker 1>you hope no one's getting sick, and you hope everyone's

0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:57.480
<v Speaker 1>all right there. Um, and the you know, the league

0:50:57.480 --> 0:50:58.920
<v Speaker 1>wants to play this game. They want to play all

0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the games here because you're running our you know teams

0:51:00.760 --> 0:51:02.560
<v Speaker 1>with by weeks. We've already had our bye week. So

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:05.000
<v Speaker 1>now if you don't play this game, you're moving it

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:07.279
<v Speaker 1>to a Week eight team. I mean you're moving it

0:51:07.360 --> 0:51:10.640
<v Speaker 1>out or you're doing something. I mean, you're you're I

0:51:10.640 --> 0:51:12.440
<v Speaker 1>don't know if you can just because both teams are

0:51:12.440 --> 0:51:14.000
<v Speaker 1>out of the playoffs. I maybe he just cancel it.

0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:14.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how do you do it? But you have

0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:16.839
<v Speaker 1>draft order, I mean, you have so many different things

0:51:16.920 --> 0:51:21.319
<v Speaker 1>going on that it becomes a real issue looking at

0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 1>the overall standing. So I imagine they'll play it unless

0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:27.240
<v Speaker 1>there's a big outbreak at the Texans if it continues

0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:29.319
<v Speaker 1>and they're gonna be forced to shut down the game,

0:51:30.000 --> 0:51:33.080
<v Speaker 1>But I would plan on. My guess is they'll play.

0:51:33.160 --> 0:51:35.479
<v Speaker 1>But the other interesting thing guy guys around the game,

0:51:36.120 --> 0:51:38.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, is you have the COVID issue, which is,

0:51:38.239 --> 0:51:40.479
<v Speaker 1>you know, first and foremost making sure that everyone's healthy.

0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:42.920
<v Speaker 1>But Florida George is gonna be playing on the field

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:46.880
<v Speaker 1>on Saturday and it's seventies pent chance of rain. You know.

0:51:46.960 --> 0:51:49.040
<v Speaker 1>One of the concerns I've been thinking about and worrying

0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:51.640
<v Speaker 1>about is what's that field look like. You know, if

0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:55.160
<v Speaker 1>if Florida and Georgia tear it up, um be in

0:51:55.480 --> 0:51:57.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, to no fault through their own just because

0:51:57.239 --> 0:51:59.239
<v Speaker 1>of the rain. If you get a heavy rain for

0:51:59.400 --> 0:52:03.360
<v Speaker 1>on Saturday, it could make it for interesting playing conditions

0:52:03.440 --> 0:52:08.800
<v Speaker 1>on Sunday. Yeah, I'm looking at the weather forecast and

0:52:08.840 --> 0:52:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I got tony it was about so hopefully it is

0:52:11.200 --> 0:52:14.759
<v Speaker 1>more and what I'm looking at versus what you're you're describing.

0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:18.560
<v Speaker 1>One of the things one of the things about the

0:52:18.640 --> 0:52:20.920
<v Speaker 1>COVID situation that I had mentioned a while ago, and

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of surprised that the league didn't even take

0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:26.920
<v Speaker 1>a look at this or there wasn't any conversation about this.

0:52:27.120 --> 0:52:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Is because Tony you mentioned how okay, now that both

0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:32.040
<v Speaker 1>teams have had their byes, what are you gonna do

0:52:32.200 --> 0:52:35.000
<v Speaker 1>if something happens, and and JP you had mentioned that

0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:40.280
<v Speaker 1>as well earlier. I thought that every opportunity with teams

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:43.920
<v Speaker 1>um going into a bye weeks. Perfect example is the

0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Jaguars Texans at the Jaguars and Texans have a bye

0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:51.520
<v Speaker 1>week and they share it, and they're playing together coming

0:52:51.600 --> 0:52:54.879
<v Speaker 1>out of that bye week. Play it now like last week.

0:52:54.920 --> 0:52:57.000
<v Speaker 1>They should have played it last week. Then it would

0:52:57.040 --> 0:53:01.239
<v Speaker 1>give if teams are healthy, just because okay, the more

0:53:01.440 --> 0:53:04.800
<v Speaker 1>bye weeks that you can save kind of getting towards

0:53:04.880 --> 0:53:08.040
<v Speaker 1>the end of the season, the more flexibility that you

0:53:08.239 --> 0:53:11.760
<v Speaker 1>have to maybe jumble things around and move things around.

0:53:11.800 --> 0:53:15.839
<v Speaker 1>And I'm surprised that the league uh didn't take advantage

0:53:15.840 --> 0:53:18.879
<v Speaker 1>of that once again here in this instance, because both

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:21.920
<v Speaker 1>the Texans and the Jaguars had to buy this past weekend.

0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:26.359
<v Speaker 1>And the other thing, I mean, you wonder could they

0:53:26.440 --> 0:53:28.880
<v Speaker 1>move the game like they have before moving to Monday

0:53:28.960 --> 0:53:30.880
<v Speaker 1>night or Tuesday night type of thing to give the

0:53:30.960 --> 0:53:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Texans more time to go through the testing protocols and

0:53:33.960 --> 0:53:37.799
<v Speaker 1>get guys back healthy. Um if if it forks out

0:53:37.840 --> 0:53:40.120
<v Speaker 1>with that five day window, so you know, we'll find

0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:43.320
<v Speaker 1>out more tomorrow. Um and uh, we'll see where this

0:53:43.360 --> 0:53:46.120
<v Speaker 1>thing goes. But you know, with COVID cases ticking up

0:53:46.160 --> 0:53:48.799
<v Speaker 1>everywhere and around the country, this is gonna be something

0:53:48.840 --> 0:53:50.640
<v Speaker 1>the NFL has have to deal with weekend and week out.

0:53:50.640 --> 0:53:57.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm frame yeah. And one thing here, JP the league

0:53:57.400 --> 0:54:00.880
<v Speaker 1>is dealing with to one win football teams here, and

0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:05.080
<v Speaker 1>I think the flexibility as long as the teams can

0:54:05.200 --> 0:54:08.880
<v Speaker 1>feel fifty three or however many for game day by

0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:13.399
<v Speaker 1>utilizing their practice squad elevations, the league is gonna say

0:54:13.480 --> 0:54:15.279
<v Speaker 1>the game must be played. In my opinion, I don't

0:54:15.280 --> 0:54:18.560
<v Speaker 1>think they're gonna try to, you know, maneuver anything else

0:54:18.640 --> 0:54:24.320
<v Speaker 1>around or have any special considerations for this game. The

0:54:24.960 --> 0:54:28.120
<v Speaker 1>word is that we're told that the Texans are practicing today,

0:54:28.160 --> 0:54:31.239
<v Speaker 1>but they're in intensive protocol just like the Jaguars were

0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:35.480
<v Speaker 1>the week of the Chargers games, so virtual meetings. But

0:54:35.680 --> 0:54:39.080
<v Speaker 1>at least so far today practice has been normal for

0:54:39.160 --> 0:54:41.759
<v Speaker 1>the Houston Texans. Let's look around the a f C

0:54:41.920 --> 0:54:45.719
<v Speaker 1>South games on the docket this week and we'll see

0:54:45.880 --> 0:54:48.839
<v Speaker 1>how good the Colts are Johnny five and two. They're

0:54:49.160 --> 0:54:52.480
<v Speaker 1>hosting the Baltimore Ravens also at five and two this week.

0:54:52.520 --> 0:54:55.000
<v Speaker 1>What do you think about that game? Well, it's it's

0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:58.239
<v Speaker 1>interesting if strength against strength at Colts defense is pretty

0:54:58.280 --> 0:55:01.000
<v Speaker 1>damn good and they've done good job all year. They're

0:55:01.000 --> 0:55:04.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna face the Baltimore Ravens, who can run the ball.

0:55:04.719 --> 0:55:07.160
<v Speaker 1>We know that. I mean, they gashed the Steelers and

0:55:07.239 --> 0:55:09.000
<v Speaker 1>if it wasn't for a bunch of turnovers by Lamar

0:55:09.120 --> 0:55:12.200
<v Speaker 1>Jackson in the passing and probably would have beat the Steelers. Um,

0:55:12.840 --> 0:55:14.680
<v Speaker 1>So you know, you gotta load up and it'll be

0:55:14.719 --> 0:55:17.279
<v Speaker 1>interesting to see how the Colts defend them. I think

0:55:17.320 --> 0:55:19.359
<v Speaker 1>that right now, with the way that the passing game

0:55:19.440 --> 0:55:21.840
<v Speaker 1>for the Ravens is going, I think Lamar we have

0:55:21.920 --> 0:55:23.839
<v Speaker 1>not seen a step forward like we did last year

0:55:23.840 --> 0:55:25.680
<v Speaker 1>with Lamar Jackson. He has been a little bit shaky

0:55:26.320 --> 0:55:28.000
<v Speaker 1>from the pocket. So I think they're gonna do everything

0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:30.480
<v Speaker 1>they can to load up and forced Lamar Jackson to

0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:34.480
<v Speaker 1>beat him from the pocket. Yeah, and the wide receiver

0:55:34.640 --> 0:55:38.200
<v Speaker 1>in Baltimore Brown is not very happy because he's not

0:55:38.280 --> 0:55:41.120
<v Speaker 1>getting the ball. Lamar Jackson hasn't taken that next up up.

0:55:41.160 --> 0:55:44.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, interesting too, the cults have been affected by

0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the COVID situation as well. Uh, if I remember reading correctly, today,

0:55:50.120 --> 0:55:54.080
<v Speaker 1>they practiced and because they had a positive test with

0:55:54.200 --> 0:55:57.799
<v Speaker 1>a staff member that they are practicing, and then after

0:55:58.000 --> 0:56:01.440
<v Speaker 1>that they are doing the meeting than everything else remotely

0:56:02.560 --> 0:56:07.239
<v Speaker 1>because of a staff member being tested positive. So it's amazing.

0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:09.000
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I don't know if you guys have

0:56:09.080 --> 0:56:12.280
<v Speaker 1>seen some of the the uptick in the COVID cases

0:56:12.320 --> 0:56:14.640
<v Speaker 1>across the nation, but I think we're seeing some of

0:56:14.719 --> 0:56:17.800
<v Speaker 1>that also kind of being reflected in the National Football

0:56:17.840 --> 0:56:20.920
<v Speaker 1>League because I just don't remember as many issues popping

0:56:21.080 --> 0:56:23.680
<v Speaker 1>up early in the season, is what we're seeing now

0:56:23.920 --> 0:56:30.840
<v Speaker 1>with the situation. The Bears and the Titans meet in

0:56:31.040 --> 0:56:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Nashville this week. Bears at five and three, Titans at

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:38.160
<v Speaker 1>five and two. Who you like in this one, Tony Well,

0:56:38.200 --> 0:56:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that was shocked last week that the Titans

0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:42.480
<v Speaker 1>played so poorly against the Bengals. I mean, I thought

0:56:42.480 --> 0:56:44.040
<v Speaker 1>that was a perfect game for them to go out

0:56:44.080 --> 0:56:46.319
<v Speaker 1>there and run the ball. But their defense has been

0:56:46.400 --> 0:56:49.480
<v Speaker 1>so poor. That made the trade for Desmond King from

0:56:49.520 --> 0:56:51.640
<v Speaker 1>the Charges. This week they got rid of Pick Beasley

0:56:51.680 --> 0:56:54.279
<v Speaker 1>and has really done nothing for them except for take

0:56:54.560 --> 0:56:58.560
<v Speaker 1>cast some big paychecks. Um and so, but this is

0:56:58.640 --> 0:57:02.239
<v Speaker 1>I think we're the Titans and healthy defensively, defensively at

0:57:02.320 --> 0:57:04.680
<v Speaker 1>least because the Bears are atrocious on the offenses out

0:57:04.680 --> 0:57:06.359
<v Speaker 1>of the ball. The problem is they're going to get

0:57:06.360 --> 0:57:08.319
<v Speaker 1>some really good Bears defense, one of the better units

0:57:08.360 --> 0:57:11.160
<v Speaker 1>in the NFL, led by gluil Mack and McKy um

0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:15.560
<v Speaker 1>and Hicks the interior defensive alignment. So, um, I think

0:57:15.560 --> 0:57:17.320
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a really good football game. It'll be

0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:20.160
<v Speaker 1>interesting to gain strength agains strength weakness against weakness, so

0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:24.520
<v Speaker 1>it'll be a good matchup. Yeah, Nick Foles is just

0:57:24.840 --> 0:57:28.560
<v Speaker 1>he's not very good, and uh, you know, they made

0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:32.160
<v Speaker 1>the major switch from Rabinsky to Nick Boles and Nick

0:57:32.200 --> 0:57:35.520
<v Speaker 1>Foles not great And I think the the interesting matchup

0:57:35.560 --> 0:57:37.760
<v Speaker 1>of that. Of course, that's always interesting to watch Derrick

0:57:37.800 --> 0:57:41.440
<v Speaker 1>Hennry against a great defense, but seeing how Nick Boles

0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:44.280
<v Speaker 1>and the Bears offense plays against that Titans defense is

0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:49.640
<v Speaker 1>also that. It's a great matchup. And I'll take the titles. Yeah,

0:57:49.840 --> 0:57:53.040
<v Speaker 1>I think you know interesting thing, Jeff about you mentioned

0:57:53.080 --> 0:57:55.640
<v Speaker 1>Dick Folds not playing very good. You know, the Bears

0:57:55.720 --> 0:57:59.240
<v Speaker 1>have better offensive numbers under Trabinsky than they do under Folds.

0:57:59.320 --> 0:58:02.560
<v Speaker 1>But a brisk he went and had his shoulder looked at. Uh.

0:58:02.880 --> 0:58:05.800
<v Speaker 1>I think this week he has some damage. So my

0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:07.920
<v Speaker 1>guess is he won't be coming back. But yeah, it's

0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:10.840
<v Speaker 1>a bad They're not very good, and uh, I think

0:58:10.880 --> 0:58:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the Titans get healthy this week. Can figure it out alright, guys,

0:58:15.040 --> 0:58:18.680
<v Speaker 1>about a minute left here. Final thought about the Jaguars

0:58:18.760 --> 0:58:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Texans game. What's your gut telling you're Tony I actually

0:58:23.800 --> 0:58:25.560
<v Speaker 1>have no feeling for this one, JP, because I don't

0:58:25.560 --> 0:58:27.560
<v Speaker 1>know what you're gonna get out. Jake Luten, I mean now,

0:58:28.160 --> 0:58:30.720
<v Speaker 1>because the Texans defense is so decimated. I hopefully the

0:58:30.840 --> 0:58:33.160
<v Speaker 1>offensive line has a big day. Give it to James Robinson,

0:58:33.840 --> 0:58:35.800
<v Speaker 1>but you have to Shaun Watson. We have yet in

0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:39.360
<v Speaker 1>the last six games stopped anybody from scoring thirty plus points,

0:58:39.400 --> 0:58:41.000
<v Speaker 1>so I think they're gonna have to keep it under

0:58:41.080 --> 0:58:45.520
<v Speaker 1>thirty to win. J C. I'm taking the Jaguars just

0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:49.680
<v Speaker 1>because the toa factor, just like the Miami Dolphins got

0:58:49.720 --> 0:58:53.160
<v Speaker 1>a new quarterback. Everybody else rallied and played well and

0:58:53.520 --> 0:58:55.760
<v Speaker 1>uh and you saw the Dolphins end up winning even

0:58:55.800 --> 0:58:57.959
<v Speaker 1>though two or through for less than a hundred yards.

0:58:58.000 --> 0:59:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I think so. I think he could see something similar

0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:05.360
<v Speaker 1>to that with the Jaguars as a team. Well, all right,

0:59:05.480 --> 0:59:09.840
<v Speaker 1>I like it. Jeff Loguman picking the Jags this week, Tony.

0:59:09.960 --> 0:59:11.800
<v Speaker 1>We will talk to you a little bit later in

0:59:11.840 --> 0:59:14.200
<v Speaker 1>the week. Have a good one, all right, Tell Douga

0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:18.439
<v Speaker 1>said hello, We'll do it, Tony Vaselli out of here.

0:59:18.920 --> 0:59:22.040
<v Speaker 1>Stand by coming up its network coverage the Doug Morone

0:59:22.120 --> 0:59:25.520
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