1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: It is Thursday, November five. This is Jaguars Happy Hour 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: and now sanitized by drones for your protection. J PCE 3 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: Shadrick Technologies grant visit it. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour. 4 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: My name is Jake Shadrick. Jeff Logoman coming up shortly. 5 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 1: We've got a busy show for you today. It's week nine. 6 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: The jackson the Houston Texans meet up this Sunday at 7 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: t i A bank fieldle preview the matchup this week 8 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: with the division rivals. Second meeting between the teams. Houston 9 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 1: got it done down in Houston back in week five. 10 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: Jake Luton, time rookie quarterback, will start this week for 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Will get Logs take on him. The 12 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,320 Speaker 1: defense against a Shawn Watson. That's always the storyline. How 13 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: do you contain him and don't let him run around 14 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: all day long? If he gets in trouble in the pocket, 15 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,399 Speaker 1: he has the ability to do that. There are COVID 16 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: nineteen concerns starting today in Houston. Three linebackers will not 17 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: be available for the game this week due to contact tracing. 18 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: A couple of the one positive and to contact tracings 19 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: will delve into that Tony Boselli joins the support thirty 20 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: today and the Doug Moron Show at five o'clock. We'll 21 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 1: hear from the head coach. We hear from Jeff Flagaman 22 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: now who joins us on. The program is always on 23 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: Thursday afternoons. And here we go logs, fresh off the by. 24 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: Are you rested, relaxed and ready for the stretcher run? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 25 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: I'm I'm ready to go. The buy is always good. 26 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: And uh, I had a lot of productive days, i 27 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: will say, during the by and kept up with all 28 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: the sporting world and all the events with the NFL, 29 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: so uh and actually got to relax and watch a 30 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: little football just as kind of a a fan. And 31 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: it's kind of nice sometimes to do that, There's no 32 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: doubt about that. Enjoy those times while you get it. 33 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: But now the stretch run is here, and the Jaguars 34 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: are starting the stretch run with a new quarterback. Governer 35 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 1: Minshew has a thumb injury, so they're going with Jake Luton, 36 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: the rookie six round draft pick out of Oregon State. 37 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: He'll make his first career NFL appearance of any kind 38 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: this Sunday against the Houston Texans Doug Marone earlier this 39 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: week when asked about Luton and what do you expect 40 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: from the rookie? Well, I think the one thing is, 41 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: you know, you look early on of of you know, 42 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: picking up the system. You know systems now, um, you know, 43 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: probably quite different than most college programs. You know, on 44 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: on play calls and and and things of that nature. 45 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: And you know there is bourbage, there's a there's a 46 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: lot on on that plate, you know, for those for 47 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: those quarterbacks. So I guess the first thing I would 48 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: say I was, I was impressed with, you know, outside 49 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: of whatever physical ability. You know what I'm saying that 50 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 1: you guys, we all can see you know from his 51 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: college film is uh, you know, his ability to pick 52 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: it up alright, picking it up one thing logs, of course, 53 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: that's that's fine and dandy, knowing the system. But when 54 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: the lights come on and you walk out on the 55 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: field on Sunday, you'll you'll have J. J. Watt and 56 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: the Texans defense on the other side. What are your 57 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: first expectations, I guess for Luton this week, I mean 58 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: expectations for most rookies. I mean, not a whole lot. 59 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: I mean it, Uh, you know, you're talking about a 60 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: tough situation to be and I think Jay Gruden had 61 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: a comment this week and just a couple of days ago, 62 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: and I don't know if we're gonna be able to 63 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: play this later on or not, but he said, quote, 64 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: Jake hasn't called a play our play, one of our 65 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: plays in our huddle since training camp. Think about that 66 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: for a minute. Okay, so the last time he was 67 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: in a huddle calling a Jaguars offensive play was all 68 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: the way back in training camp. So it's not like 69 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: he was in the huddle and he's been practicing the 70 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 1: verbiage of the j Gruden offense. It's in the Jaguars offense. 71 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: Hasn't happened. So the expectations for a young player in 72 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: that situation, I think it's low. But let me say this, 73 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: My expectations of his physical abilities is pretty high. You know, 74 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: maybe the performance may not be there initially because look, 75 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 1: he hasn't had a lot of practice time. Even though 76 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: you had a bye week, it wasn't like they were 77 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: practicing four days during the bye to get Jake Luton 78 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: ready for this opportunity after the bye week. You know, 79 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: there's been limited opportunity but I still think and I 80 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: believe that. I believe this going all the way back 81 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: to training camp when they made him the second quarterback 82 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: that made the roster on final cutdown day, I thought 83 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: it should have stayed that way because he impressed me 84 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 1: that much JP and training camp, I thought he earned 85 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 1: the job to be the backup, But they chose to 86 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 1: bring Mike Glennan back after exposing him in the final 87 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: cuts because they just felt comfortable that Mike Glennon has 88 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: been around a little bit and maybe it wouldn't be 89 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,159 Speaker 1: too for him. But in my opinion and training camp, 90 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: Jake Lewton earned the backup job, and in fact, and 91 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: part of my mind it was thinking he might earn 92 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 1: an opportunity to be able to compete for the starting 93 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: job because at times he showed the things that you 94 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: want in a franchise quarterback, which is he has great height, 95 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: he's got the vision to see over the line of scrimmage. 96 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: He's got an NFL caliber arm. He can fit it 97 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 1: in the tight windows. He can throw the velocity balls 98 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: on the outs, the deep outs, and also into a 99 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: little short windows or small windows in the middle of 100 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: the field. So my expectations JP again aren't high. But 101 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: I also think, and I agree with Doug bron and 102 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: that when Doug Brown said his ceiling is high, and 103 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: that's what he believes, I think a ceiling is high too. 104 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: But the thing that you just don't know about is 105 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: the mental makeup JP. When the live bullets start flying 106 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: and J. J. Watt starts rushing, uh and Za cunning 107 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: Ham starts coming at you in and all out, let's 108 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Right? It's a different world 109 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: when when that happens sometimes. Now, I wonder the curious 110 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: thing I think a lot of people will ask going 111 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 1: into this game, and I'll be curious to see it 112 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: on Sunday is how different will the offense be called 113 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: with Luton? Will they open it up a little bit 114 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: with his ability to throw a deeper football down the field, 115 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: or will they be a little more conservative and mixing 116 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: that run game and and keep things safe for Looten? 117 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: I mean, for me, Logs, you're throwing him out there. 118 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: Let's throw the ball around and see what this kid has. Sure, sure, 119 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,559 Speaker 1: but but but I will say this, I mean, here's 120 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 1: the thing. How advanced was the Jaguars playbook anyway? With 121 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: Gardner Mishew Garden Gardener Mitshew had and and the Jaguars 122 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: offense what seven games under his belt? Yes, and this 123 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: is seven games under j Gruden's offense to the playbook, 124 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: wasn't six inches thick for Gardner Minshew? Now, also, okay, 125 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 1: Jake Luton's coming in, we're gonna just you know, we're 126 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: gonna rink it down. Instead of six inches six we're 127 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,560 Speaker 1: gonna cut it down to a one inch playbook. It's 128 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: I mean, that's not how it was. So I think 129 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: the playbook will be it will shrink a little bit, 130 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't think it's gonna shrink that much. 131 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: And uh, do you maybe get a little bit of 132 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: conservative nature with some of your play calling? Maybe, But 133 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: here's the reality. Weren't they kind of trying to be 134 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: conservative play calling with Gardner Minshew over the last number 135 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: of weeks? And weren't they talking about that going all 136 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: the way back to the last Houston matchup in the 137 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: week before that. I mean, so, it's not like you're 138 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: gonna do something drastically different and you're gonna change the 139 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: offense because of a different skill set with Jake Luton. 140 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: Your offense is your offense. You just need to find 141 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: a quarterback that connectecute it better. And I think that 142 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: Jake Luton is gonna have a great opportunity on his hands. 143 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: And Doug Moron did not mince any word when he 144 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: was asked a question about well Gardner Minshew get his 145 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: job back. He said, look, if Jake Luton comes out 146 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: there and plays well, I mean, what what should you do? Well? 147 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 1: You should let him keep playing, you know, So it's 148 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to me JP. And and just another note, 149 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: you know, with with Gardner Minshew, a lot of people 150 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: may be wondering what is a fracture and damage ligaments 151 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 1: and everything? What does that do with a quarterback? How 152 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: does that happen? And I've had them on both thumbs here, 153 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna try to to show you visually what 154 00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: if looks like that's had ligament and broken bones. Okay, 155 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: both of them. Okay, they've both been in ways that 156 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 1: they shouldn't been, okay, And what happens is when a 157 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: thumb gets bent like this way, the ligament that is 158 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: basically spacing the gap pulls a little piece of bone 159 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: off with it. So I'm not the doctor in this case, 160 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: but I'm getting that it was something of this nature 161 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 1: with Gardner Minshew, because I remember when I had it 162 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: with both hands it was hard to grip. And with 163 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 1: Gardner throwing the highballs on occasion the last couple of 164 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 1: games that we saw him playing, losing the grip is 165 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: what means the ball. You can't hold it when you're 166 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: trying to be forceful and put velocity on it, and 167 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: so you lose your grip and the ball comes out 168 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: high and flies high. So that's my guess as to 169 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: what happened with Gardner Minshew, even though the Jaguars don't 170 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: talk medically and don't release that information, if I had 171 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: to guess, that's what it would have. Well, I just 172 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,440 Speaker 1: know we we just saw your thumb do weird things 173 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: in high definition if you're watching on Jaguars dot com 174 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: and uh that that was quite interesting. Thank you for 175 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: the visual. I actually had just a quick cool story. 176 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: Is that you know when you when you play defensive 177 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: line or offensive line. I remember when I came in 178 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: the league, there was a guy that played offensive guard 179 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: and his name was Dan Alexander and Dan played at 180 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: UH I think it was Louisiana Tech. He was Louisiana guy. 181 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: We called him Cajun Dave, you know, and and Uh 182 00:09:56,760 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: or Cajun Dan. And he used to wear because back 183 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,319 Speaker 1: in the early days of the National Football League, you 184 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: didn't have gloves so to speak, you know, the the 185 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: Nike gloves or the Adidas gloves or the Newman gloves. 186 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: You know, back then the first cloves that were kind 187 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: of out, they were called Newman's. Well with the offensive 188 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: linemen back in the day, they were they we didn't 189 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: have gloves. I mean, receivers caught with their hands and 190 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: you stick them and Uh and the offensive line to 191 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: protect their hands because their hands are so exposed, they 192 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: would actually wear a gardening glove, I mean like old 193 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 1: fashioned leather gardening gloves. Dan used to wear these old 194 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: leather gardening gloves and he'd have on the old spot 195 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: built shoes cleats for turf that will looked like boots, 196 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: you know, like literally like like work boots, and he 197 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: would take these gloves up. But they did that to 198 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: protect the hands because as offensive lineman and defensive lineman, 199 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: you know, you catch something the wrong way and fingers 200 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: can just go, you know, in ways that they shouldn't go, 201 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: and that brought around the advent of gloves and everything 202 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: of that nature. But you know, gloves didn't even start 203 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: becoming popular in football probably until about the early nineties 204 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: when Newman were the first ones that came out with it. 205 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: When they did, at first a lot of guys were 206 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: resisted to doing it, but then they realized how well 207 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: it could protect their hands, and then everybody started using them. 208 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: And he can go right back home after the game 209 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: and do some gardening outside trim to change gloves. You know, 210 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: it's perfect. Here's another thought about Gardner Minshew here. You know, 211 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: I think everybody kind of understands maybe why he wanted 212 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: He wants to stay on the field. Obviously, he knows 213 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 1: his situation here and this was this is is his 214 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: year to show that he was a franchise guy. This 215 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 1: was an opportunity. So the story is that he didn't 216 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 1: tell the team that he had this injury and they 217 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,319 Speaker 1: found out officially during the bye week. Where are you 218 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: on that it's not obviously Doug Moron talked about it 219 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: this week where he he wants players to be forthright 220 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 1: and you know, the medical crew can help the player 221 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: maybe get back, but when it goes the other way 222 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: it sometimes can hurt the football team. To where do 223 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: you stand on this or I stand on that? First off, 224 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm amazed that a starting quarterback for a football team 225 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: doesn't communicate to the organization that he's got a thumb issue. 226 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's like a JP for baseball fans. I mean, 227 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: it's like having Nolan Ryan not tell the Houston Astros 228 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: or the Rangers. I mean that they looking up I'm 229 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: having a hard time throwing because my thumb is having 230 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: an issue. I mean, that's crazy to me. Um. So, 231 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: obviously that's not a situation that you want to have 232 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:46,559 Speaker 1: because the expectation is that you should have excellent communication 233 00:12:46,679 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: between your starting quarterback and the coaching staff, the training staff, 234 00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: and the organization as a whole. And obviously that wasn't 235 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: the case with Gardener Minsho. And I do understand to 236 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: some extent that, look, hey, he wants to be able 237 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: to keep his job. It's as an opportunity to be 238 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: starting quarterback, and he doesn't want to be told, well, 239 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: we got to take you out of there, and he's 240 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: trying to suck it up and play play through it 241 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: and all that. I mean, I understand that part of it. 242 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: But look, your performance was lacking the last couple of weeks. 243 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 1: That certainly was affecting you in the Chargers game. And 244 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: uh and I'm you know, And the one thing I 245 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: will say JP is that Gardner Minshew has never been 246 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: super accurate on the intermediate to long stuff, and he's 247 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: never had great velocity on his ball. Um He's always 248 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 1: thrown the ball a little bit where it's got a 249 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: little bit of an arc on it. And we've never 250 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: said that he has a weak arm. But we've never 251 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,839 Speaker 1: said that he has a strong arm. So if he 252 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: loses a little velocity or if he loses a little accuracy, 253 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: then maybe you don't notice it as much with a 254 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew compared to like, let's say Dan Rino. You know, 255 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 1: if it Dan Reno usually throws ninety and also Unneth 256 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: throwing seventy, then you notice it, whereas Gardner Minshew's probably 257 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: throwing sixty and then all of a sudden, now he's 258 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: throwing fifty, you know. And not not trying to be 259 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: funny here, but I'm just trying to give you an 260 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: analogy of the different speeds and how sometimes it can 261 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 1: be hard to tell. Maybe if a guy has an 262 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 1: injured thumb. You know. So from the team standpoint, the 263 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: trainer standpoint, unless he tells them, they don't know. I mean, 264 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: all you know is that he just missed d J. 265 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: Chark ten yards over his head. That's just a bad throw, right, 266 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: I mean that's the first reaction. That was my first reacting, 267 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: you know, in the first throw that he had in 268 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: a game against the Charges. My reaction wasn't, oh man, 269 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: he can't grip the ball. He must have a thumb injury, 270 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: you know. So it's it's a shame that had happened, 271 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: but the reality is that it did and uh and 272 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: so it presents an opportunity and a great opportunity for 273 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: Jake Luton. Jake Luton, sixth round rookie getting started this 274 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: week for the Jags against the division rival Houston Texans. 275 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: Plenty of A had more on this a little later 276 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: when Tony Boselli joins us in about fifteen minutes, we'll 277 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: come back doing a moment logs and get on the 278 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars defense and see if they can develop that pass rush. 279 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: This has been a talking point all season long, hasn't 280 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: really happened yet, got about half a season to go 281 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: to see if those young guys can get going and 282 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: against the Shawn Watson this week, Let's come back in 283 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: a moment plenty ahead. 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Will get into that a 352 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 1: little bit later as well. J P. Shadrick with Jeff 353 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: Logerman and let's get to this Jaguars defense now and 354 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: the matchup this week against the Shawn Watson and the Texans. Now, 355 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: you remember back in week five, they had a big 356 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 1: day through the air. Brandon Cooks had a huge day 357 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: a hundred sixty one yards touchdown, eight catches. On the game, 358 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson throws for three fifty nine and three scores. 359 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: He didn't think two interceptions in that game. Um. But 360 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,800 Speaker 1: the defense, you know they're in that string right now, 361 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: struggling obviously, thirty point games in the last six times 362 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,159 Speaker 1: out there in all six losses. So where do you 363 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,399 Speaker 1: start on defense this week to get things turned the 364 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: right way? Are you hiding behind your break here? Well, 365 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm starting right here because if you actually look at 366 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: the last matchup, this is my game board from the 367 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: Houston Texans game, and let's see, uh no c j Henderson, 368 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: uh no, Josh Allen, um no, Miles Jack. You didn't 369 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: have Cindy Jones in there until a little bit later, 370 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: you know. So look, when you play a football team 371 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: and you're depleted, you know, the reality is it's tough. 372 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: And I think the positive thing for the Jaguars defensively 373 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: this week is that you're gonna have I don't want 374 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: to say all hands on deck because you know Avery 375 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: Jones is on I R. But you're gonna get Miles Jack, 376 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: I think is the expectation you could end up getting 377 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: your safety Jared Wilson back. Uh. C J Henderson is 378 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 1: gonna be able to play in this game. Josh Allen 379 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: is two two weeks now back in action and also 380 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: having the extra week with the bye, his knee should 381 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: be better, you know. So, Uh, it's a better situation 382 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: for the Jaguars. But JP, make no mistake about it. 383 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: Even if you're healthy, it's a it's a pretty strong 384 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 1: test to be able to face a Deshaun Watson. Uh. 385 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: The one thing that Deshaun Watson hasn't had going for 386 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: him this year for the most part, is a running game. 387 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: And that's why the Texans were so good last year 388 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: is that they had a pretty strong running game and 389 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,800 Speaker 1: it took a lot of pressure off of Deshaun Watson. 390 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: And this year the ranked dead last in the National 391 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: Football League running the ball as an offense. And uh, 392 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: that's not a very good number. But the last time 393 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: they played, David Johnson had seventeen carries for ninety six yards. 394 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,159 Speaker 1: If if you're gonna beat the Texans this time, you 395 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: can't allow that to happen, you know so, Uh, you 396 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 1: better worrying about be worried about stopping and run first 397 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: and then you can worry about Deshaun Watson. And once 398 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 1: you get to Deshaun Watson, JP, we all know it's 399 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:12,400 Speaker 1: a it's a very specific, hard to execute game plan. 400 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: And when I say very specific in that your goal 401 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: is to keep DeShawn Watson in the pocket to build 402 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: kind of this moat around him. But the problem is 403 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: you can't just build the moat and then be happy 404 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,880 Speaker 1: with that, because then he's just gonna sit back there 405 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: in his castle and just you know, throw docs and 406 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: be able to throw the ball deep though some very 407 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,199 Speaker 1: speedy receivers. So you need to find a way somehow 408 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: to get pressure without taking a lot of chances, so 409 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 1: that all of a sudden you have a breakdown in 410 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: your moat and all of a sudden he escapes, and 411 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you're expecting a defensive back 412 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: to cover for another four or five seconds. And and 413 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: that's the challenge of Deshaun Watson. And not only that, 414 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 1: but hey, the reality is he can take off and 415 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: run for thirty rds if you got back turn and 416 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: you're in man coverage. So, uh, tough challenge this week. 417 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: And it becomes really really tough if they're running the 418 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: football well like they did the last meeting. I never 419 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: thought we would have talked about moats and castles on 420 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: this show today, but we've gone there like that. I 421 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: like that analogy. Yes, that was very nice. Uh, you know, 422 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: but now I'm curious about the development of these pass 423 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: rushers overall. You know, the scores have not been great 424 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: for them to be able to get after the quarterback 425 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: a lot in those situations, that's one thing. But you know, 426 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: they've been close. Allen's been there. He's been banged up 427 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: now the last little bit and he's back on the field. 428 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: That's fine. He's got nine games left this year to 429 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: really get going. Chase on how's his development going. I 430 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: know they're doing a lot of extra work after practice 431 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: every day, talking to Joey Bosa after the game on 432 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: the field in l A. They're doing everything they can. 433 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: But at some point, the Rubbers gotta hit the road 434 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 1: during the game and they've got to get to the 435 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: quarterback a little more often. Yes, and I'm all all 436 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 1: for it, And uh, they're not doing a very good job. 437 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: J p Um. The reality is, if if you like, 438 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: you go back to the game two weeks ago against 439 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: the Chargers. The only guy that was having wins as 440 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: a pass rusher was Josh Allen, and Josh wasn't completely healthy. 441 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't like Josh was just crushing guys. 442 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: I mean it was he was doing a pretty good job, 443 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: not as good as Josh Allen can do, and nobody 444 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 1: else is winning. And that's hard. I mean, it's very 445 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: hard when it's a one man band, asked Joe. He 446 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: can tell you it's hard to play all the instruments 447 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: by yourself at a live concert. But Caleban Chase on 448 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: has got to find a way to have what I 449 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: call the hands and the hips kind of married together. 450 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: And what does he have? One sack on the year? 451 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 1: Is that right? I think it's one sack on, Yeah, 452 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: it's one sack. But here's the reality. The one sack 453 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 1: that he got, I don't want to say it was 454 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: anything that he did a great pass rusher to be 455 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: able to get that sack. It's kind of one of 456 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 1: those sacks that every now and again you'd like to get. 457 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: You fall into him and but his hips and his 458 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:12,640 Speaker 1: and his arms or hands aren't working together. And that's 459 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: the one thing I think that concerns me. You know 460 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: when I when I watched him in training camp, I thought, 461 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: really thought, and was very impressed with his hands because 462 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: he was using his hands, and a lot of young 463 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: players don't learn to use their hands. They just try 464 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: to run around guys and be faster than another guy 465 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 1: or be stronger than another guy. But they soon find 466 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: out at the National Football League level, you actually have 467 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: to have a plan. I mean, even the great Reggie White, 468 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: who was just so dominant physically, actually had a plan. 469 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: Reggie's plan was he was gonna take you down the 470 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: middle and run you over. And then the next plan 471 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: was is that once you started sitting heavy, he was 472 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: gonna get you to sit heavy and then give you 473 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: a little juke and then give you a power rip 474 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: to the outside. And then once you started to sit 475 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: on the power rip on the outside, if that didn't work, 476 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 1: he was gonna hump your butt about six yards up 477 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 1: the field because he was so strong. So even Reggie 478 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 1: White had a great plan. Lawrence Taylor had a great plan. 479 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: If you got a great get off, he was chopping 480 00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: and ripping to get to the outside, and if he 481 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: was a little bit laid off the ball, he would chop. 482 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: Thinking that they're letting the offensive lineman know that I'm 483 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: going outside. But Laura's Taylor would chop down and then 484 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: immediately spend to the inside. So even the great pass rushers, 485 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,959 Speaker 1: they weren't just like these dominant, physically gifted pass rushers. 486 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: You actually have to learn technique and setting guys up. 487 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: And I think that's what Calaman chaded on is figuring 488 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: out right now. And then in college it was a 489 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: little bit easier. And now you have to have your 490 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: hands and your hips working together, but then you also 491 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: have to have your mind working with your hands and 492 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: your hips, so you can have a plan when you 493 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: rush the passer. And it's tough. He's having a tough time, yeah, 494 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: but you know at some point um it'll start to click. 495 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: I think for those guys. How about the interior play 496 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: last time out, Davon Hamilton, the rookie out of Ohio State. 497 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: Avery Jones was not there course, so he kind of 498 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: stepped into that role in the interior and it was 499 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: certainly the best game he's had so far as a rookie, 500 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: and that was a really bright spot and in a 501 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: in a year where there aren't many bright spots on defense, 502 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: I think that was a very good development for this organization. 503 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: Well down. Hamilton's the third round pick, and so your 504 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: expectation with a third round pick is that he's a starter, 505 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: and it should be um as a third round pick, 506 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: and he's a big dude, big dude. This past game, 507 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: I thought it was his best game, and I thought 508 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,440 Speaker 1: he did a really good job, and and I expected 509 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 1: him to do better this past game. And the reason 510 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: I expected him to do better was that Poenie, who 511 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: is the starting center for the Chargers, who took over 512 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: for the uh the center Pouncy who was injured. And 513 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: Phoenie had been a guard in the past. But Poenie's 514 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: not a like he's. He's a little straight legged, he's 515 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: not super strong, he doesn't play real load to the ground. 516 00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: He does play with a lot of leverage. So I 517 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: expected somebody who's big and strong like Devon Hamilton's to 518 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: play well against Feeney, and he did, and it was 519 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: good to see. And and even if it's against the 520 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: guy that's not super physical or super strong, it's good 521 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: to see because when you go against the guy you 522 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 1: think you should play well against, you gotta play well 523 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: against him. And he did. That so, so that's good 524 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,399 Speaker 1: and I hope it's something that he can build off of. 525 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: And uh, and also in the meantime to continue to 526 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: get better and anticipate. And I was talking to somebody 527 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: about this earlier in the week. JP, you know, you 528 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: go back, because you know I'm talking about how big 529 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: and strong Devon Hamilton's is. You go back in the 530 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 1: early days of Jaguar's history, and and John Jurkovic, who 531 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: was a defensive tackle, and he and Joe Fortunato and JP. 532 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever had a chance to 533 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: meet him, maybe if he came back for alumni day 534 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: or something that Joe remembers him. He might have had 535 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: the the worst body in the National Football League. I 536 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: mean literally, the guy didn't look like he could play football. 537 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: The guy didn't look like he ever played football. He 538 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: might have played a little, you know, high school ball, 539 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 1: maybe a little called small college ball, because he was 540 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: just kind of around around guy. And UH. And if 541 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 1: he told you at the bar and you never knew 542 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: who he was and just met him, he tells you 543 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 1: he's an NFL player, You're like, you're so full of it. 544 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: I mean, that would be your reaction but he was 545 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: he was a good player, and he was a good 546 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 1: player doing large part because he could anticipate blocks. He 547 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: could anticipate if I'm playing a shade on a nose 548 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: one way, that guard's coming down and I'm getting a 549 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: double team, I can I can dig my left hip 550 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: or my right hip, depend on which side of the 551 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: senator that I'm on down and hold the point and 552 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: anticipate where that pressure is coming from. Or if the 553 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: guards coming down, centers pulling around, I can immediately play 554 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 1: over here to the guard and now I'm fighting against 555 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 1: pressure and and for a large part of the early 556 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: part of the season, Devon Hamilton's wasn't anticipating and you 557 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: can be big and strong, but the reality is a 558 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: lot of the other guys that you're playing again big 559 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: and strong too, And so he was getting knocked around 560 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: a little bit, you know so, and so when you 561 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 1: went to anticipate, you can play stronger, be stronger and 562 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: UH and hopefully the more reps he gets, the better 563 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: he becomes in the better pass rusher that he can be. 564 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: Because there was a third round pick, the expectation as 565 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,480 Speaker 1: you need to be able to UH to be a 566 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: decent pass rusher as a defensive tackle. In my opinion, 567 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: if you if you drop somebody in the third round, 568 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: he's gotta have some pass rushing potential too, and I 569 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: think he's got a little bit and he's getting better 570 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: at it. All right, Loves, let's come back in a moment. 571 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: Tony was Sally is standing by. He'll join us after 572 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: the time out. 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Visit Navy Mutual dot org, 633 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:21,839 Speaker 1: Navy Mutual ensuring those who serve m HM. Jaguar's Happy 634 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: Hour is presented in part by dream Finders Homes Homes 635 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: that fit your lifestyle, Next Grill Everyone's invited, and a 636 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:41,600 Speaker 1: Deco Visit a Deco USA dot com. Well, unfortunately, it's 637 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: not gonna be easy, you know, for a rookie first game. 638 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: I hadn't taken a lot of ups with the first team. 639 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: In fact, I don't think he's called off play one 640 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: of our players in the huddleson's training camp. So, uh, 641 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: it will not be easy for him. Uh, it's his 642 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: job to be prepared mentally, make sure he goes through 643 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: the right progressions, handles himself in protections, gets the ball 644 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: James Robinson when he hands it off and does things 645 00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: right what he's been taught this whole process. So, uh, 646 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a great challenge for him, but we 647 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: feel good about his demeanor, his work ethic. We feel 648 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: like he's mentally prepared. But now we just have to 649 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: wait and see. But we'll do the best we can 650 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: to uh make it as easy as possible for him. 651 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:26,280 Speaker 1: That's offensive coordinator Jay Gruden earlier this week discussing Jake Luton, 652 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 1: the rookie quarterback we'll make the start for the Jags 653 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,320 Speaker 1: this Sunday against the Houston Texans. Jaguars Happy Hour continues. 654 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: J P Shadrick, Jeff Lagerman, and Tony Basselli joins us 655 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: now from way out in Ponto Vedra Beach, Florida. Tony, good, afternoon. 656 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? JP? Logs? Are we doing okay? 657 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,879 Speaker 1: Ready for some football? Yes? Jake? Hey, listen? Jake Luten Yeah, Luke, 658 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,880 Speaker 1: what do you think? Tony? Are you? What's what is 659 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,879 Speaker 1: your expectation for his performance on Sunday? I have zero 660 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 1: expectations because here's a guy who's a rookie. Um has 661 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: never taken a snap in an NFL game, had no 662 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 1: preseason no o t as, limited reps in training camp, 663 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 1: limited reps in the regular season as the third string quarterback. 664 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: Um is a six round draft pick. Um. I have 665 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: zero expectations. He's being put in a very tough spot. Um, 666 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: and I wish him the best. I mean, we saw 667 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: limited reps of them in training camp. When we saw him, 668 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: he looked good. Um. He has a big arm. He 669 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 1: looks like he's accurate. But the last time he faced 670 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: a pass rush, guys, was in the Mighty Pack twelve. Um. 671 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: And it's gonna be a little bit different speed and 672 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,919 Speaker 1: feel out there on Sunday. Uh, if they do play 673 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: based on the COVID situation with Houston, Yeah, no doubt. 674 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,359 Speaker 1: That's Uh, that's a It is quite a task for him, 675 00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 1: you know. But it's one of those where a JP 676 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 1: we were talking about we we got Yeah, we gotta 677 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: go back to what what J Grud said there, and 678 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,840 Speaker 1: I mean think about that for a minute. Yeah, he 679 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 1: said that he hasn't called one of our plays and 680 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: our huddle since training camp. I mean so, I mean 681 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: Tony's right, I mean, the expectation is is not there. 682 00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 1: It's not high, and uh, you know, you just you 683 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: just hope that the young man has a knack and 684 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 1: that he's he can allow some of his physical talents, 685 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: which we clearly saw in training camp and in the 686 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,879 Speaker 1: scrimmage that allows some of those physical talents to carry 687 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 1: him a little bit. And and the also the positive 688 00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: thing is is that his last year of Oregon State, 689 00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:52,080 Speaker 1: he was very good at protecting the football touchdowns I 690 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: think or something of that nature and three interceptions. I mean, 691 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: that's that's an incredible ratio. And if he can do 692 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 1: that same type of thing with Jaguars, then awesome, awesome. 693 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: But like Tony said, the expectation is low, but at 694 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: the same token, the opportunity is very high for a 695 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: young quarterback in this situation. What's that first huddle going 696 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: to be Like? If you're a veteran offensive lineman and 697 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 1: and here's Jake Luton out here calling plays in the huddle, 698 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 1: it's gotta be a little bit. Not that Gardner Minshew's 699 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: a salty vet. I mean they're both young guys. Anyway, Well, 700 00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 1: and I got my I can't remember that. UM, maybe 701 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 1: Jeff can but and I think it was nine seven. UM. 702 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,360 Speaker 1: Margaret Dog got hurt in training camp and we started 703 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: the season with Rob Johnson. Rob Johnson got hurt in 704 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: week one, finished the game, but got hurt week one, 705 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 1: and we had to have our third string quarterback, Matthews. 706 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: I can't remember his first name of the life of me. 707 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:58,400 Speaker 1: For whatever reason, Steve Matthews and Steve Matthews knew about 708 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: Um through pass plays and six run plays that he 709 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,239 Speaker 1: actually could call on the huddle, and it was a 710 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 1: struggle for him to get him out. And and so 711 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,719 Speaker 1: the key in those situations everyone else has to rise 712 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: to the occasion. Everyone else has to play better. And 713 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: we knew it, and we knew the situation where we're in. 714 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: We knew we had a guy that was gonna struggle 715 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 1: be comfortable, a guy who's gonna struggle to communicate UM. 716 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:23,560 Speaker 1: And it was gonna be a very simple game plan. 717 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: And all we ended up doing is going to scoring 718 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: I think forty three points. Now, the defense played very well, 719 00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 1: got some turtle words for us, and we ran the 720 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: ball and we had big plays to Jimmy Smith and 721 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 1: Kingo Cardell. But I think we literally called you know, 722 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: probably a total of ten different plays on that Sunday, 723 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: and the owners came on everyone else. The offensive line 724 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,720 Speaker 1: has to block better. You have to keep a clean pocket, 725 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: you have to run block, you have to be you 726 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 1: have to control the line of scrimmage. Receiver has got 727 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 1: to create space. Um, you know, the back's gotta run hard. 728 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,680 Speaker 1: Tight ends got to do their thing. I mean it, really, 729 00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,359 Speaker 1: the onness comes on everyone else. Now, you can't put 730 00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,680 Speaker 1: this on Jake Luton. It's not fair. He's not ready. 731 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,799 Speaker 1: I don't care how talented he is. I don't care 732 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: what the story is. You know he has, he has 733 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: a big arm, all those different things. I'm excited to 734 00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:12,200 Speaker 1: see what he can do. It'll be interesting. Um, but 735 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: let's be honest. There's a reason he was a six 736 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: round draft pick, and not that guy's lating the draft 737 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 1: can't perform at a high level, and not that scouts 738 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 1: don't miss some people. So I'm not taking a shot 739 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 1: Jake Luton. But you gotta be honest with yourself, and 740 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 1: you gotta be realistic, and you have to understand that 741 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,160 Speaker 1: we're not going to ask this kid to do too 742 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: much because if we do, most likely it'll be a 743 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: complete failure. Alright. So so I'm gonna bring this up. 744 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:39,480 Speaker 1: And and it's obviously tongue in cheek. Tom Brady was 745 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: a six round pick. Yeah, but Jeff, but you're you're right. 746 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,560 Speaker 1: Let me say something real quick. That's a good job 747 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,400 Speaker 1: because you're right. And but let's not forget um it 748 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: was I think it was the second year when he 749 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: finally got in there midway through the season. Um. And 750 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: if you think back to the early years of Tom Brady, 751 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: tom Brady did not carry that to It's not the 752 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,800 Speaker 1: tom Brady we know now or in the in the 753 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, the last career, the first quarter of his career. 754 00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,359 Speaker 1: It was a defensive team. They ran the ball. They're 755 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in the NFL. That's how 756 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: they won the Super Bowl, that's how everyone else and 757 00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,319 Speaker 1: allowed Tom Brady to get into it. Yeah, they had 758 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: did a very good defense. And I obviously said that 759 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: tongue in cheek, but you know, I think the one 760 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,520 Speaker 1: thing that they can do. You know, when Tony JP 761 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 1: is talking about, Okay, we only had ten plays for 762 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: Steve Matthews, and there's nothing wrong with having ten plays, 763 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: you know, because the one thing I think that you 764 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,360 Speaker 1: can do sometimes is you can dress up those ten plays. 765 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 1: You can put a skirt on it, you can put 766 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,080 Speaker 1: a dress on it, you can put jeans on it. 767 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: What I mean by that is you can window dress it. 768 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: So you might be running the same you might be 769 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: running ten plays, but one play, if it's run the same, 770 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: might look you know, four different ways based on a 771 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,360 Speaker 1: formation or emotion or a way that you get to it. 772 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: And so it's kind of a way to simplify things 773 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,680 Speaker 1: without making it simple for the defense to figure out 774 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,320 Speaker 1: exactly what you're gonna do. But you know, it's I 775 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: think it's a It's an exciting time for Jake Luton 776 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 1: and Tony's right. I mean the expectations are low, but 777 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: at the same token, after what I've seen out of 778 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew the last couple of weeks, I'm ready to 779 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:19,320 Speaker 1: see something different. I'm ready to see somebody execute the 780 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: offense at a better rate. I'm looking at board and 781 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 1: seeing a quarterback trust his pockets to stay in the pocket, 782 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 1: to keep his eyes down the field and go through 783 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: a progression, and then also to be able throw somebody open, 784 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: you know, with with arm strength and fitting it in 785 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: the tight windows, because I haven't seen much of that 786 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: from Gardner. Minshew, Jeff, do you think and you know 787 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,440 Speaker 1: based on what you just said? Um, because I agree 788 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: with all that, I think you're dead on. But I 789 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 1: had big questions. I mean, I don't know if he's 790 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,719 Speaker 1: going to get good in the pocket. I don't know 791 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 1: if he's gonna be comfortable with the rush. I don't 792 00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: know if he's gonna step up. I don't know if 793 00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: if the first guy is not open, if his eyes 794 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: go down and start looking around a way to escape. 795 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm interested what happens the first time he gets hit 796 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,080 Speaker 1: in the chops by J. J. Watt and now all 797 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,319 Speaker 1: of a sudden it's came on. Is he started looking 798 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,200 Speaker 1: at the rush? Does he take his eye eyes off 799 00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: down the field? I have no idea. All I know 800 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,719 Speaker 1: about this kid is that he is a big arm. 801 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,040 Speaker 1: He looks the part. I don't know. I mean, I'm 802 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:21,680 Speaker 1: not even sure how great of an athlete is he 803 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 1: gonna be able to run around and buy a time. 804 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know in training camp that's easy. 805 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,800 Speaker 1: But those are all things that I have no idea 806 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: what to expect, and anyone outside that coaching staff, and 807 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: even the coaching staff doesn't know because they've never seen 808 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,520 Speaker 1: him do it in any game, not in the preseason nothing. 809 00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: They they he has never been back there where the 810 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:47,320 Speaker 1: thought that if he holds the ball too long or 811 00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: if he steps up in the pocket, a three d 812 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,560 Speaker 1: pound defensive tackles is gonna hit him as hard as 813 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: he can right in the chest as he's delivering it. 814 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that's definitely is seven on seven. One good 815 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: thing Tony Uh we talked about j J Walk coming 816 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,320 Speaker 1: in is that Jaguars did a pretty good job on 817 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: j J the last time in the last matchup. Yeah, 818 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: Whitney Merciless was the one that I think had a 819 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: pretty significant impact in that ball game. And as of 820 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,680 Speaker 1: right now, Whitney Merciless is not playing in this game 821 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: against the Jaguars. So positive. Yeah, let's compatible and we'll 822 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: get into that situation in Houston. 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The game just get 884 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: all them guys healthy and move on to week ten. 885 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 1: But I'm just kidding. I hope everybody's you know, hope 886 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: everybody's healthy over there. Uh. You know, I don't wish 887 00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 1: nobody to get sick or miss any games because they're 888 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: missing paychecks and you know, they got friends that day 889 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,040 Speaker 1: care of too, So hopefully they get back healthy and 890 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: I'm just ready to play. You know, we gotta play 891 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,439 Speaker 1: with the cars that we'll dealt with, but they gotta 892 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: play with the cards that they will dealt with, and 893 00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:45,360 Speaker 1: let's just see how it goes. Sunday, dr Allen discussing 894 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans COVID nineteen situation and welcome back to 895 00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:53,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour On this Thursday, JP Shadrick, Jeff Lockman, 896 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: Tony was elly with us as well. The Texans have 897 00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 1: placed three linebackers on the COVID nineteen reserve list. Jacob 898 00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:06,280 Speaker 1: Martin tested positive for COVID nineteen reportedly, but linebackers Whitney 899 00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 1: Merciless and Dylan Cole will also miss this week's game. 900 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 1: They must test negative for five days in a row 901 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 1: because of contact tracing, so three linebackers not available for 902 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: the Texans this week against the Jaguars, and now, of 903 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,160 Speaker 1: course concerns about the status of the game as well. 904 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: Romeo Cornell said today that the league wants to play 905 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:29,000 Speaker 1: the game if possible, and they'll wait until tomorrow before 906 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,360 Speaker 1: making a decision at the latest Saturday, when the Texans travel. 907 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 1: So still some question marks, guys about this game. But um, 908 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 1: you know, three linebackers not coming, that's a that's a 909 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 1: big chunk on that defensive sidebogs. Yeah, and and I 910 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,680 Speaker 1: will say that JP. I mean the three linebackers you're 911 00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:50,280 Speaker 1: talking about, the one that supposedly tested positive with Jacob Martin, 912 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 1: and then you have the the high uh incidents of 913 00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,640 Speaker 1: contact with Whitney Merciless and Dylan Cole. So that's three. 914 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,880 Speaker 1: But then you go to a fourth linebacker, which is 915 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:05,680 Speaker 1: Kyle Emmanuel who did not practice the last couple of 916 00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: days because of a concussion. So in reality, they could 917 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,240 Speaker 1: be short four linebackers, three of them due to COVID, 918 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: one of them because of a concussion. So that would 919 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:22,320 Speaker 1: leave the Texans with Zack Cunningham, UH, Peter Colombay, Tyrrell Adams, 920 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,799 Speaker 1: Jonathan Greening, and Brendan Scarlett. But you gotta remember now, 921 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,880 Speaker 1: I mean some of these guys are like hybrid defensive 922 00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,240 Speaker 1: end linebackers that are not true linebackers. So the Texans 923 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,560 Speaker 1: are gonna have to dip into that practice squad I 924 00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: would imagine for this Jaguars game this weekend. Yeah, big change, Tony, 925 00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:42,120 Speaker 1: and you know, we'll see you the next day or 926 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: so if there's any more positives that pop up down there. 927 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: Hopefully not, Hopefully this game goes on a schedule this week. 928 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: Well yeah, I mean you hope so, I mean number one, 929 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: you hope no one's getting sick, and you hope everyone's 930 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 1: all right there. Um, and the you know, the league 931 00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 1: wants to play this game. They want to play all 932 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:00,760 Speaker 1: the games here because you're running our you know teams 933 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,560 Speaker 1: with by weeks. We've already had our bye week. So 934 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,000 Speaker 1: now if you don't play this game, you're moving it 935 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,279 Speaker 1: to a Week eight team. I mean you're moving it 936 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,640 Speaker 1: out or you're doing something. I mean, you're you're I 937 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 1: don't know if you can just because both teams are 938 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 1: out of the playoffs. I maybe he just cancel it. 939 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:14,960 Speaker 1: I mean, how do you do it? But you have 940 00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,839 Speaker 1: draft order, I mean, you have so many different things 941 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:21,319 Speaker 1: going on that it becomes a real issue looking at 942 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 1: the overall standing. So I imagine they'll play it unless 943 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,240 Speaker 1: there's a big outbreak at the Texans if it continues 944 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,319 Speaker 1: and they're gonna be forced to shut down the game, 945 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 1: But I would plan on. My guess is they'll play. 946 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,479 Speaker 1: But the other interesting thing guy guys around the game, 947 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: you know, is you have the COVID issue, which is, 948 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,479 Speaker 1: you know, first and foremost making sure that everyone's healthy. 949 00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 1: But Florida George is gonna be playing on the field 950 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 1: on Saturday and it's seventies pent chance of rain. You know. 951 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 1: One of the concerns I've been thinking about and worrying 952 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 1: about is what's that field look like. You know, if 953 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,160 Speaker 1: if Florida and Georgia tear it up, um be in 954 00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, to no fault through their own just because 955 00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 1: of the rain. If you get a heavy rain for 956 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 1: on Saturday, it could make it for interesting playing conditions 957 00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:08,800 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Yeah, I'm looking at the weather forecast and 958 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,120 Speaker 1: I got tony it was about so hopefully it is 959 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,759 Speaker 1: more and what I'm looking at versus what you're you're describing. 960 00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:18,560 Speaker 1: One of the things one of the things about the 961 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 1: COVID situation that I had mentioned a while ago, and 962 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 1: I'm kind of surprised that the league didn't even take 963 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,920 Speaker 1: a look at this or there wasn't any conversation about this. 964 00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 1: Is because Tony you mentioned how okay, now that both 965 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 1: teams have had their byes, what are you gonna do 966 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: if something happens, and and JP you had mentioned that 967 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:40,280 Speaker 1: as well earlier. I thought that every opportunity with teams 968 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,920 Speaker 1: um going into a bye weeks. Perfect example is the 969 00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 1: Jaguars Texans at the Jaguars and Texans have a bye 970 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 1: week and they share it, and they're playing together coming 971 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,879 Speaker 1: out of that bye week. Play it now like last week. 972 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 1: They should have played it last week. Then it would 973 00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 1: give if teams are healthy, just because okay, the more 974 00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:04,800 Speaker 1: bye weeks that you can save kind of getting towards 975 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 1: the end of the season, the more flexibility that you 976 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,760 Speaker 1: have to maybe jumble things around and move things around. 977 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,839 Speaker 1: And I'm surprised that the league uh didn't take advantage 978 00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:18,879 Speaker 1: of that once again here in this instance, because both 979 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,920 Speaker 1: the Texans and the Jaguars had to buy this past weekend. 980 00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,359 Speaker 1: And the other thing, I mean, you wonder could they 981 00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:28,880 Speaker 1: move the game like they have before moving to Monday 982 00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 1: night or Tuesday night type of thing to give the 983 00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,880 Speaker 1: Texans more time to go through the testing protocols and 984 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 1: get guys back healthy. Um if if it forks out 985 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 1: with that five day window, so you know, we'll find 986 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:43,320 Speaker 1: out more tomorrow. Um and uh, we'll see where this 987 00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,120 Speaker 1: thing goes. But you know, with COVID cases ticking up 988 00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,799 Speaker 1: everywhere and around the country, this is gonna be something 989 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:50,640 Speaker 1: the NFL has have to deal with weekend and week out. 990 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:57,319 Speaker 1: I'm frame yeah. And one thing here, JP the league 991 00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,880 Speaker 1: is dealing with to one win football teams here, and 992 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:05,080 Speaker 1: I think the flexibility as long as the teams can 993 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,880 Speaker 1: feel fifty three or however many for game day by 994 00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,399 Speaker 1: utilizing their practice squad elevations, the league is gonna say 995 00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 1: the game must be played. In my opinion, I don't 996 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: think they're gonna try to, you know, maneuver anything else 997 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:24,320 Speaker 1: around or have any special considerations for this game. The 998 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: word is that we're told that the Texans are practicing today, 999 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,239 Speaker 1: but they're in intensive protocol just like the Jaguars were 1000 00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 1: the week of the Chargers games, so virtual meetings. But 1001 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: at least so far today practice has been normal for 1002 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. Let's look around the a f C 1003 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 1: South games on the docket this week and we'll see 1004 00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,839 Speaker 1: how good the Colts are Johnny five and two. They're 1005 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:52,480 Speaker 1: hosting the Baltimore Ravens also at five and two this week. 1006 00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,000 Speaker 1: What do you think about that game? Well, it's it's 1007 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,239 Speaker 1: interesting if strength against strength at Colts defense is pretty 1008 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 1: damn good and they've done good job all year. They're 1009 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:04,560 Speaker 1: gonna face the Baltimore Ravens, who can run the ball. 1010 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,160 Speaker 1: We know that. I mean, they gashed the Steelers and 1011 00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,000 Speaker 1: if it wasn't for a bunch of turnovers by Lamar 1012 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:12,200 Speaker 1: Jackson in the passing and probably would have beat the Steelers. Um, 1013 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 1: So you know, you gotta load up and it'll be 1014 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: interesting to see how the Colts defend them. I think 1015 00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,359 Speaker 1: that right now, with the way that the passing game 1016 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,840 Speaker 1: for the Ravens is going, I think Lamar we have 1017 00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,839 Speaker 1: not seen a step forward like we did last year 1018 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson. He has been a little bit shaky 1019 00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 1: from the pocket. So I think they're gonna do everything 1020 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,480 Speaker 1: they can to load up and forced Lamar Jackson to 1021 00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 1: beat him from the pocket. Yeah, and the wide receiver 1022 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 1: in Baltimore Brown is not very happy because he's not 1023 00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 1: getting the ball. Lamar Jackson hasn't taken that next up up. 1024 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 1: You know, interesting too, the cults have been affected by 1025 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:49,960 Speaker 1: the COVID situation as well. Uh, if I remember reading correctly, today, 1026 00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: they practiced and because they had a positive test with 1027 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,799 Speaker 1: a staff member that they are practicing, and then after 1028 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,440 Speaker 1: that they are doing the meeting than everything else remotely 1029 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 1: because of a staff member being tested positive. So it's amazing. 1030 00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,000 Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know if you guys have 1031 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,280 Speaker 1: seen some of the the uptick in the COVID cases 1032 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,640 Speaker 1: across the nation, but I think we're seeing some of 1033 00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,800 Speaker 1: that also kind of being reflected in the National Football 1034 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 1: League because I just don't remember as many issues popping 1035 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 1: up early in the season, is what we're seeing now 1036 00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:30,840 Speaker 1: with the situation. The Bears and the Titans meet in 1037 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,080 Speaker 1: Nashville this week. Bears at five and three, Titans at 1038 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:38,160 Speaker 1: five and two. Who you like in this one, Tony Well, 1039 00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that was shocked last week that the Titans 1040 00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,480 Speaker 1: played so poorly against the Bengals. I mean, I thought 1041 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,040 Speaker 1: that was a perfect game for them to go out 1042 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,319 Speaker 1: there and run the ball. But their defense has been 1043 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,480 Speaker 1: so poor. That made the trade for Desmond King from 1044 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 1: the Charges. This week they got rid of Pick Beasley 1045 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 1: and has really done nothing for them except for take 1046 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 1: cast some big paychecks. Um and so, but this is 1047 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,239 Speaker 1: I think we're the Titans and healthy defensively, defensively at 1048 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,680 Speaker 1: least because the Bears are atrocious on the offenses out 1049 00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,359 Speaker 1: of the ball. The problem is they're going to get 1050 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 1: some really good Bears defense, one of the better units 1051 00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,160 Speaker 1: in the NFL, led by gluil Mack and McKy um 1052 00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:15,560 Speaker 1: and Hicks the interior defensive alignment. So, um, I think 1053 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a really good football game. It'll be 1054 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 1: interesting to gain strength agains strength weakness against weakness, so 1055 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,520 Speaker 1: it'll be a good matchup. Yeah, Nick Foles is just 1056 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 1: he's not very good, and uh, you know, they made 1057 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 1: the major switch from Rabinsky to Nick Boles and Nick 1058 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,520 Speaker 1: Foles not great And I think the the interesting matchup 1059 00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,760 Speaker 1: of that. Of course, that's always interesting to watch Derrick 1060 00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:41,440 Speaker 1: Hennry against a great defense, but seeing how Nick Boles 1061 00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 1: and the Bears offense plays against that Titans defense is 1062 00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:49,640 Speaker 1: also that. It's a great matchup. And I'll take the titles. Yeah, 1063 00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,040 Speaker 1: I think you know interesting thing, Jeff about you mentioned 1064 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:55,640 Speaker 1: Dick Folds not playing very good. You know, the Bears 1065 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:59,240 Speaker 1: have better offensive numbers under Trabinsky than they do under Folds. 1066 00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,560 Speaker 1: But a brisk he went and had his shoulder looked at. Uh. 1067 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,800 Speaker 1: I think this week he has some damage. So my 1068 00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,920 Speaker 1: guess is he won't be coming back. But yeah, it's 1069 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 1: a bad They're not very good, and uh, I think 1070 00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 1: the Titans get healthy this week. Can figure it out alright, guys, 1071 00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 1: about a minute left here. Final thought about the Jaguars 1072 00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 1: Texans game. What's your gut telling you're Tony I actually 1073 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:25,560 Speaker 1: have no feeling for this one, JP, because I don't 1074 00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,560 Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get out. Jake Luten, I mean now, 1075 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,720 Speaker 1: because the Texans defense is so decimated. I hopefully the 1076 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 1: offensive line has a big day. Give it to James Robinson, 1077 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: but you have to Shaun Watson. We have yet in 1078 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,360 Speaker 1: the last six games stopped anybody from scoring thirty plus points, 1079 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,000 Speaker 1: so I think they're gonna have to keep it under 1080 00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:45,520 Speaker 1: thirty to win. J C. I'm taking the Jaguars just 1081 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:49,680 Speaker 1: because the toa factor, just like the Miami Dolphins got 1082 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 1: a new quarterback. Everybody else rallied and played well and 1083 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 1: uh and you saw the Dolphins end up winning even 1084 00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,959 Speaker 1: though two or through for less than a hundred yards. 1085 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 1: I think so. I think he could see something similar 1086 00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:05,360 Speaker 1: to that with the Jaguars as a team. Well, all right, 1087 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 1: I like it. Jeff Loguman picking the Jags this week, Tony. 1088 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,800 Speaker 1: We will talk to you a little bit later in 1089 00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,200 Speaker 1: the week. Have a good one, all right, Tell Douga 1090 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:18,439 Speaker 1: said hello, We'll do it, Tony Vaselli out of here. 1091 00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,040 Speaker 1: Stand by coming up its network coverage the Doug Morone 1092 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,520 Speaker 1: Show right around the corner. Thank you for listening and 1093 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,480 Speaker 1: for watching Jaguars Happy Hour on this Thursday on the 1094 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:30,920 Speaker 1: Jaguars Digital Network.