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Speaker 1: This is a headgun podcastle Hay Club Kids producer Meg Here.

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Speaker 1: On this week's episode of Celebrity book Club, we're digging

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Speaker 1: deep into the episode vault and sharing a very special

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Speaker 1: piece of CBC history, the first ever recorded episode of

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Speaker 1: the podcast where Steven and Lily discuss burnt Toast and

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Speaker 1: other philosophies of life by Terry Hatcher. Travel back in

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Speaker 1: time with us to the old world before COVID recording protocols,

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Speaker 1: the suits and their fancy audio gear, and long before

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Speaker 1: Stephen and Lily grace the pages of Rolling Stone. We

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Speaker 1: hope you enjoy this little piece of her story best.

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Speaker 1: Who's that knocking at the door. It's all your friends,

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Speaker 1: your filthy horse, your husband's gone, and we've got books

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Speaker 1: and a bottle of wind Skills books. It's gossip. I'm

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Speaker 1: Shock's memoirs. Cleb Book Club can read it while it's hot.

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Speaker 1: Clebrit Book Club, Tell your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books.

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Speaker 1: No boys are Alloudest Celebrity book Stay it Loud and

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Speaker 1: Cloud Celebrity book Club buzz men I brought the Queer

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Speaker 1: Vow podcast bys Hello you salty bitch, You dirty, dirty,

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Speaker 1: dirty slidesty, nasty, nasty bed. You're the most winged bed

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Speaker 1: The longest peckers, the widest tellings, her gams went on forever.

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Speaker 1: I mean, talk about pens. Those were pens. Those were

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Speaker 1: pens you could set You're watched. When you had to

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Speaker 1: they had respect for time and for women, the family, children, women,

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Speaker 1: god state, city, town, province, country, township, and civil course.

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Speaker 1: And we have lost the place of municipal affairs in

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Speaker 1: our home life and in our sexuality. Hey best friend, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you stupid, stupid best friend. Have you literally done, bitch?

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Speaker 1: I'm absolutely obsessed with you. Welcome to my studio. We

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Speaker 1: are in Steven's new apartment and it's it's fucking gorgeous here.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say congrats, thank you. I did

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Speaker 1: have a podcast studio built that was one of the

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Speaker 1: and find a realtor. I said, number one railroad, number

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Speaker 1: two podcast studio. It looks like a real garage in here.

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Speaker 1: It's super super gashes, vintage guitars. The tin ceiling is imported,

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Speaker 1: all these kind of empty records just for props here. Um,

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Speaker 1: are you trying to call me like not legitimately punk

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Speaker 1: or something? I feel like I would never say that.

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Speaker 1: I just wonder like, can you name like all five

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Speaker 1: members of the Ramones? Okay, well there was Ramone, naturally,

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Speaker 1: So thanks for coming. I wanted to sort of dive

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Speaker 1: right in and talk about, Yeah, we should get to

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Speaker 1: it kind of the Subje, which was a really really

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Speaker 1: important book that in many ways set the tone for

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Speaker 1: our lives personalities, careers, career, sexualities, religious views, interior design, sense,

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Speaker 1: financial planning. Do you a graphic tendency? We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: talking about one of my favorite actresses, one of my

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Speaker 1: favorite books, Burnt Toast by Terry Hatcher. The Terry Hatcher

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Speaker 1: you know her from Lois and Clark. Do you know

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Speaker 1: her from Desperate Housewives. It's funny because I feel like

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Speaker 1: she's one of those actresses where you're like, I know

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Speaker 1: But why? And like I'm growing up. I knew her

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Speaker 1: from Tomorrow Never Dies, which is a James Bond film.

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Speaker 1: Oh you're a head. I'm kind of a Bond girl. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in that she is. She's super glam. She actually does

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Speaker 1: go ahead and get murdered in a hotel room in Hamburg,

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Speaker 1: Pierce the Cheryl theme song Never Does, which we parting

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Speaker 1: and I'll see her in tall she's in it. Also

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Speaker 1: it's short in the front, just like my hair. Okay.

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Speaker 1: And then it's a burnt toast in script. Okay, we

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Speaker 1: One of your special talents is reading upside down. That's

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Speaker 1: where you draw the line that'll be in my second life.

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Speaker 1: So it's burnt toast and other philosophies of life. And

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Speaker 1: of color. Okay, wow, your graphic design language is jumping out, babe.

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Speaker 1: Do you work in branding? No? But in my sixth

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I could see you really designing flyers for

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Speaker 1: back our trains, bring back our trains. So the toast

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Speaker 1: of imply so she's kicking a piece of burnt toast

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Speaker 1: And day after day, the more burnt toast you eat,

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Speaker 1: start believing that your idea about yourself that you're not

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Speaker 1: worth it. So this is Terry's sort of treatise on

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Speaker 1: I'm just making a joke that I'm a descendant of Cleopatra.

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Speaker 1: and I worked here's what Steven worked his ass up. Yes,

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Speaker 1: like I felt helpless exactly. I actually you can go

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Speaker 1: anywhere and feel helpless. I was kind of having this

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Speaker 1: feeling just now that in some ways Terry Hatcher is

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Speaker 1: like a less type A Debor Messing. Like, take Terry

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Speaker 1: Hatcher and then add in like a ton of more

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Speaker 1: like type A, and she would become Debor Messing, who

428
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: was like also a divorced woman in her forties who

429
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Speaker 1: gets drinks with her girlfriends. Yes, but it's like actually

430
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Speaker 1: like way more crazy and like more of a hillbot

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Speaker 1: and like doings our tech ads and like. But it

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Speaker 1: like when you like, Terry's dream is to open up

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Speaker 1: a diner, like you know how Debor Messing's dream is

434
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Speaker 1: to be the assistant jewelry editor for enough, Right, Debor

435
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Speaker 1: Messing was a little more like I am NYC. Yeah,

436
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Speaker 1: and I think Terry Hatcher's a little more root sixties

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Speaker 1: six Yes Cheryl, Yeah, she's Cheryl Debor Messing show for

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Speaker 1: listeners who weren't. Yeah, not that you wouldn't, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: when we say Cheryl woman, and I feel like They're

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Speaker 1: both these women that are like, I am not gonna

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Speaker 1: talk my ex husband because I am a mom first

442
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: and that relationship is more important than the pettiness. And

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Speaker 1: I will put the pettiness behind me. And even though

444
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,959
Speaker 1: I was extremely hurt and rock bottom after my divorce,

445
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Speaker 1: I was absolutely ravaged by that divorce. It couldn't eat,

446
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: it broke me, it couldn't sleep. But I will not

447
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Speaker 1: say anything bad about my ex husband. But I came

448
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Speaker 1: to set every day at seven am, and he is

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Speaker 1: a decent father. That's how I feel about my ex husband.

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Speaker 1: And both of you show up to Set, right, we do,

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Speaker 1: and we put the behind us absolutely, And you raise

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Speaker 1: her adopted child. Do you think her ex husband he

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Speaker 1: probably didn't read this, h I mean, she's so okay.

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Speaker 1: She also does this thing where it's just like, oh

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Speaker 1: the parentheses. Oh well, I was gonna say, I'm just

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Speaker 1: kind of like a like, who's the ex husband that's gone?

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Speaker 1: When she refers to he's like a feeder guy. I

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Speaker 1: but he's like a playwright or something. You think he's

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Speaker 1: that much of a faga? Yeah, I think he's like

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Speaker 1: in something's got to give. Diane Keaton's husband he's more

461
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462
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Speaker 1: like Danny motor Vibe. She mentions in the book something

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Speaker 1: about like feeder in his world. Unless he's like a dramaturum.

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Speaker 1: of course why we love it kind of in the

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Speaker 1: in prin season, it's just like, okay, so you and

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Speaker 1: me are on our deathbeds, and then she's like there's

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Speaker 1: wine everywhere. Oh yeah, you're in a mansion. And then

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Speaker 1: I'll be another like, hey, it's my fantasy why not Okay,

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Speaker 1: you actually need to calm down. Own. It's always like,

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Speaker 1: well if we're in fantasyland. Also, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you remember this details. She classes over very quickly where

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Speaker 1: she mentions that her mom was a defense contractor. Oh

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Speaker 1: I don't remember that. Yeah, her dad was just like

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Speaker 1: an engineer. But she's still always like we were poor, right,

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Speaker 1: and you're like and they grew up in the depression.

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Speaker 1: You like, hey, how old are you? Okay? I? Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: There was another Prith that just wrote down where she

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Speaker 1: just goes, did I just say horny my book? I

515
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Speaker 1: can say whatever I want? And then after horn she

516
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Speaker 1: was like, Okay, we're doing this. So Terry is also

517
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Speaker 1: someone who like has sex once every five years, but

518
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Speaker 1: she talks a lot about losing her sexuality in her

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Speaker 1: marriage and trying to get it back I feel like

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Speaker 1: at the time, and then she talks about this time,

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00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: she like had well, she takes like a stripping class

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Speaker 1: to like get in time with her sexuality, so like nineties,

523
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: like woman in her forties reclaiming strip cardios. Don't you

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Speaker 1: imagine when she has sex with this guy that she

525
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: describes and then the subsequent spiral after that, and she

526
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: was like, I have the best sex with men I trust.

527
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Speaker 1: And she's like, I'm talking mine blowing, earth shattering. It's

528
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Speaker 1: also cause like I feel like it's so nineties. It's

529
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 1: like and then they're both at the end just been

530
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Speaker 1: like like I need a cigarette. Yeah, you roll over

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Speaker 1: like that. Her is like crazy sacks when it's like

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Speaker 1: women on top and it's like bra off, it's not

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Speaker 1: carried bra I feel. And then she probably had the

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Speaker 1: same reaction when Diane Lane and under the tuscans On

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Speaker 1: has sex for the first time and just starts like

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Speaker 1: screaming on her bed and linen and the fountain starts

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Speaker 1: like running again, and it's a metaphor. The sad thing

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Speaker 1: about that amazing cowgirl sex she had is the next

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Speaker 1: day she went completely utterly psycho. Wait what happened? She

540
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Speaker 1: wouldn't like even start a faucet because she didn't want

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Speaker 1: to miss hearing the phone call. She was like, so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just started to kind of do stuff around the house,

543
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Speaker 1: but I wouldn't take a shower because then I might

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Speaker 1: miss the phone call. And it's like, so you're just

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Speaker 1: I just got to not make a peep, not make

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Speaker 1: a sound. I mean, it's interesting in the land before

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Speaker 1: phone for a cell phone, yes, when you really needed

548
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: to hear the landline, but voicemail, right, how portable phone is?

549
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: She like her girlfriends, Hey, I want to keep this

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Speaker 1: quick because he might call back soon. But I think again,

551
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: it's like this a great blueprint for also knowing how

552
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Speaker 1: to not be crazy. Right, it's to say, hey, take

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Speaker 1: a shower, And she's trying to tell you, right, take

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Speaker 1: that shower in this book. But the thing is she's

555
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: so she can't ever stop in one place long enough

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Speaker 1: to like be comfortable on that idea. She has to

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Speaker 1: then go to the next thing and be like, do

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Speaker 1: take the shower, Go ahead to the shower, and why

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Speaker 1: you're taking the shower, like think about like what you

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Speaker 1: can do, like for your daughter, or like what you

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Speaker 1: can do for yourself to make yourself feel good, and

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00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 1: nothing about your daughter. Later and it's just right. There's

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Speaker 1: always like another level of just like it's another lesson.

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Speaker 1: I feel like there's also so many times she spirals

565
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Speaker 1: she's trying to fit in all of this evidence. But

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Speaker 1: I think it's like it's this weird way of you

567
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Speaker 1: are telling yourself to like forgive yourself and like make

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Speaker 1: time for yourself and like not worry about other things.

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Speaker 1: But the process of like telling yourself that becomes its

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Speaker 1: own worried spiral. It's own spiral. And the real lesson

571
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Speaker 1: is it's like, you know, you can't tell yourself not

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Speaker 1: to think about something. It's kind of the amount I

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Speaker 1: mean that is true. But I think she is like

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Speaker 1: trying in her spiral to tell you all the times.

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Speaker 1: And ultimately I'm so grateful for her for like being

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Speaker 1: vulnerable and opening not be in that way. And you know,

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Speaker 1: she says, I get in the shower and my instinct

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Speaker 1: is to reorganize the medicine cabinet. Emerson her daughter, Emerson Rose,

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Speaker 1: sorry Emerson Rose, who's now like a zine artist, who's

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Speaker 1: now like eighteen. Yeah. I remember our good friend Sam

581
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 1: book Rosens go on, saw Terry and her daughter at

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Speaker 1: a zine fair and the Emerson was selling her zines

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00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: and Terry was fucking right there. Wow, good for her.

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Speaker 1: Fuck yeah, we need we should review, we should review.

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00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: We run for zines. Definitely done. Um. Another point about

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00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: her sexuality fear post divorce. She takes the strip class

587
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: and then she does the vagina monologues and they want

588
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: her to like wear like a soft baseball hat that

589
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 1: says cunt on it, and she like can't even wear it,

590
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: really can't wear it. Even though she's like doing the

591
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: whole like mirror to my vagina like exploring thing and

592
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: having this cowgirls sections. That word is just yeah, too far.

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Speaker 1: And now I'm thinking she's so soft baseball hot. She's

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Speaker 1: so la. I mean everyone's so soft baseball hat. Now

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00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 1: now I guess that's just like a diamond square, like

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00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: you have a hat. But well, I'm saying, we're like,

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00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: she's la, She's the original producer soft baseball hat. Um.

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00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: She is also so the celebrity thing though, where you

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Speaker 1: like get gifts for people just like as a thank you,

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Speaker 1: and so like getting gifts for the crew, and like

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00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: when she sent like coffee cake to like the whole

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Speaker 1: like audition staff or whatever at ABC because she had

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Speaker 1: like like postpone her callback or something because she was

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00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: like having such a moment, and then it turned out

605
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: to be a lesson like you know what if you

606
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Speaker 1: are having a breakdown, like do postpone the callback and

607
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: do ask your agent to like and that brings up

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Speaker 1: the point of culinary go on, I want to talk

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Speaker 1: about California Pizza Kitchen. Okay, Yeah, She's always getting California

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Speaker 1: Pizza Kitchen for her and Emerson, and she makes the

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Speaker 1: reader know Emerson's choice, not mine, but cp K as

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Speaker 1: this might just love CPK as this mother daughter. It's

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Speaker 1: so because there's something that's kind of like, well, it's

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Speaker 1: indulgent enough that like the daughter feels like she's getting

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Speaker 1: this treat. I mean, it's very to me. It reminds

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Speaker 1: me of when my nanny night we would get Bertucci

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Speaker 1: when I was a kid, and I would fake being sick.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I'm fake having a stomachake because I would go

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Speaker 1: home by one pm to watch dates of our lives

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Speaker 1: with of course bertuc cheese will fix that up. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then it was always just like oh and now

622
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Speaker 1: my reward for faking sick was like ordering pizza, and

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Speaker 1: it was like me and my nanny. But there is

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Speaker 1: cheese is as pizza chain that's a little more up skill.

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Speaker 1: What fired? I actually think it's very CPK ultimately though

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Speaker 1: it is, but like that's what I'm saying. CBK is

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Speaker 1: an upscale chain, right, and so it's bur tu treese.

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Speaker 1: Yeah no you said. I thought you were saying just

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Speaker 1: more upscale. Oh no, no, no, they're the same level.

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Speaker 1: But I'm saying like they're being like, OK, sorry, I

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Speaker 1: just want to make the same Yeah, basically, but it's

632
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Speaker 1: this treat, but it's also like teaching your daughter like

633
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: we're not just getting any old slice of Joe. You're

634
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 1: getting a rugla on your pizza and you're eleven. But

635
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 1: also the infamous turkey roll ups where she and Emerson

636
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: will have turkey without bread and it's just like they

637
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: just rolled turkey into a cylinder and like that's they're

638
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: kind of no carp treat that they have and they

639
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: do it around let us, which I famously made a

640
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: video me as Terry doing the turkey roll ups? When

641
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: did you do this in college? Me as Terry like

642
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: doing turkeys like super eight? No, this was um, gonna

643
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: go ahead and be shot on digital Wow, Yeah, okay,

644
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: and that was actually gonna go ahead. Me one of

645
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 1: the first digital pieces. Yeah me is Terry Spiraling crying

646
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: voiceover of the book. But now here we are and

647
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: I'm still making work based off based off Terry fifteen

648
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: years later, I haven't met another book. I also saw

649
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: so much of my mother within the cooking field of

650
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: this book, where she takes on these like huge cooking projects,

651
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: like at her most stressed the Thanksgiving yeah, with the

652
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: scalp with the potatoes. Her and her father are making

653
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 1: potatoes and it's this whole like, oh, it's supposed to

654
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: be like a bonding experience, but the dad gets so

655
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: fed up making the potatoes and it's like, what was

656
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 1: she screaming at him with the potatoes? So then she finishes,

657
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: the dad leaves that, yes, he literally leaves because he

658
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: can't handle it. And so you know, and the lesson

659
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: that she takes away from that es So I don't

660
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 1: know what to do. So I took the like half

661
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: scaloped potatoes, put them in a blender, added milky. Ended

662
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: up being the best mashed potatoes my life. So like, hey, mistake,

663
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: because in the kitchen like experiment and it's like you're like, wait,

664
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: what wouldn't the lesson be like maybe don't like scream

665
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: at your like fright, take on this like insanely complicated,

666
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: like eighteen course meal when you're like and then another

667
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: time she's like, I'm gonna make a goose for Christmas,

668
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: like right after she had her daughter, which is oh great, Um,

669
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: I haven't slept in eight weeks. Let me pick up

670
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: a goose. It is very and my mom wants she

671
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 1: made this pea and she was like having all these

672
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: people over and it's like, you know, you want to

673
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: impress and like the pie, you're cracking all this different

674
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: seafood and everyone's waiting and it's you know, hey, maybe

675
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: and this is you know, maybe take a more on

676
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: a garden approach. And that's why I want a garden

677
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 1: is so popular because she was you know what could

678
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: be easier? You know, do meatballs pasta comfort food? I

679
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: really do think. Yeah, it's about like I think there

680
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: is because I feel it too when I entertain, and

681
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: it's right, you want to show off. I want to

682
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: show off and you want people to feel welcomed, and

683
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: you know, effort is like a signal that you care

684
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: about people love. But you don't want to be trapped

685
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: in the trapped and you don't want to put this

686
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 1: pressure on yourself to perform, because then it's impossible to

687
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: live up to the expectations you're setting, and then you're

688
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: not having fun. You're just worried about your goose. And

689
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: then your friends feel tense, right because they see you

690
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: sweating over a goose, right, and the goose becomes a

691
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: spiral and I think it's craving goose in the end. Well,

692
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: have you had perfectly cooked goose? I actually haven't. Okay,

693
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: Well you should come to our Christmas dinner sometimes I

694
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,800
Speaker 1: would love. Mother has made goose in the past, and

695
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: she's not a goose. I've always wondered about goose when

696
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: I would buy my Christmas tree. We go to this fam.

697
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: It's very Gay's game. But it's kind of like dak me,

698
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: kind of like it's got a bit of a venison vibe.

699
00:40:53,880 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: Yes it yeah, I think it's a wheel. Okay, that

700
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: cousin quack as um. But I really think the lesson

701
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: is be more Gwyneth and just be like grilled bread.

702
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: And you know what I mean, do you like one

703
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: thing like nicely that's like very easy, and then buy

704
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 1: some pistachios and she and then it's like everyone's scotch

705
00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: and soda. Right, you don't have people labor and you know,

706
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: and then make a punch, right, don't And on that

707
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: goose day. This also, I feel like, is kind of

708
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,360
Speaker 1: so me. She goes to bed, Bath and Beyond and

709
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,959
Speaker 1: some woman gets really mad at her. Okay, I'm sorry,

710
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: Terry is so bad. Bath and Beyond palette is blue

711
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 1: tool tool and like are thee and white and like

712
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 1: like clear plastic bins. Like I feel like her whole

713
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: life is so bad. She's very been like my sister,

714
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: I feel and labeled bins. Oh my god, I'm now

715
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 1: having this flashback to going to my cousin's part room

716
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: once in the valley and she has all her shoes

717
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: labeled in different tupperware like plastic bins, and like there

718
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,840
Speaker 1: was one that was like fuck me pumps, and it's like,

719
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: you're not wearing those fuck me pumps and not suck

720
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: me pump should not be in a bin. They really shouldn't.

721
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 1: Like if you're labeling you're pms, like you are not

722
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: getting fucked in your pumps enough and that would be

723
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: so like a terry parentheses, just like when was the

724
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 1: last time I wore you guys right the Reagan administration

725
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: to be like but you know what, I'm holding onto

726
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: them because who says you can't have hope? Like she would,

727
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: she would weirdly take kind of the wrong lesson that

728
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: like felt empowering, but it's still actually just like very

729
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: very tense. And sometimes she has these moments and you're

730
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: so happy for her when she goes to NAPA with

731
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 1: her girlfriends and yeah, in a combined um, she got

732
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: all these gifts certificates from the animals, like it's it's

733
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: so we're house I've trip where they all have separate

734
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 1: rooms and like facing she think we all each had

735
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: a hot tub to a room. And it's like, so

736
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: eight of you a hot chub. I mean it must

737
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: have been a pretty sweet I mean it's an Emmy

738
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: gift basket. So and her friends. This is look, I've

739
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: seen an Oscar gift basket once in middle school. Oh

740
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: because of Eryl. Yep, good stuff in those Yeah, okay, yeah,

741
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 1: I've seen one life Um her friends. This is so

742
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: fun of her and something that she was really not

743
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: stressed about that like her friends weren't all friends from college.

744
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: They were like all friends separately, So she was like

745
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: the core. Oh, and she was worried about what she

746
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 1: actually wasn't worried that they would like all get along,

747
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 1: which is kind of a shop. She was like, yeah,

748
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: like I was the center of attention. I'm like, you know,

749
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: we weren't all school chubs. So insane because to me,

750
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: that is like my first thought when assembling a group

751
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: of people actually for a weekend trip. It's always the commentary.

752
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: It's always like how is this different group of people

753
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: going to work? And will this will this person be

754
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: a weird ddition? And like will those two people like

755
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: be a weird combo? And like right, what if they're

756
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,359
Speaker 1: left alone with the car rental place? Like what's going

757
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: to happen? Right? We had a lot of discussions of

758
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 1: that over your birthday, Cubs TRUP. Yes, that also ultimately

759
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: very well and that chemistry totally made sense. Okay, I

760
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: want to play a little game with you go the

761
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: fuck off of obsos with games. I'm kind of a gamer.

762
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: I play games. You're naughty. Yeah, what's the game? I want?

763
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: Terry related? It's a terry game. I want you to

764
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: read the first sentence of five random paragraphs throughout the book, okay,

765
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: throughout the book. Yeah. When I explain the tabloids to Emerson,

766
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 1: I say, I guess they just want to know that

767
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 1: we're like them. Oh God, she's such so insane. Having

768
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: a child makes it easier to see it in these failings.

769
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: Getting older doesn't just change your body. Hell, yes, how

770
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: did I wind up here? Well? Where is here? And

771
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 1: here is? Yes? Yeah, where is here? Okay, and there's

772
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: I can't find it. But I'm just going to say

773
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: one that I remember. We live in a microwave society,

774
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: and you can't make goose in a microwave. You absolutely cannot.

775
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: And everyone wants everything so quickly, right everything, Now you

776
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: gotta wait, slow down at milk to the potatoes. I

777
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: saw an amazing quote from this email I got from

778
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: after Pay, which is a layaway service, and the quote

779
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 1: was success only becomes only comes before work in the dictionary,

780
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: this mangled brought to you by brought to you by

781
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: lay away. Um adjust to our audience, can know what

782
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: did you purchase? Pay purchased a bed frame with after

783
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: Pay on wayfare dot com. Cool. It was delivered a

784
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: little scratched, and I got three hundred bucks off, and

785
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: so the two hundred, so two hundred bucks off. It

786
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 1: was three hundred total total in several installments, several installments

787
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: of one hundred a month. Okay, so after three months,

788
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: you will own your bed. Outright, I'm gonna own my

789
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: bed this month. Yeah, outright, very cool mine all month.

790
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: Big girl, a big girl a small city. When you're

791
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: own a bed, you can do anything. So the very

792
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: end of this book, well sorry, right before we get

793
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: to the end of the book, go on, I wanna

794
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: give everyone one of Terry's tips. Go on, and this

795
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 1: is something you can do at home. No one has

796
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: to see it, right, fuck them on your toes. F

797
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: you c k one foot next foot? Eam, do you

798
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,399
Speaker 1: do the apostophe? I forget how she writes, I don't

799
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 1: do the apostophe because obviously I do this on my toes.

800
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 1: And she did this famously in response to a review

801
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: of her like performance in Cabaret right when she got panned,

802
00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: absolutely panned, but you know it had a very successful

803
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: four month run in Los Angeles. Man, she won an

804
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: obianam when you but you get panned, you still write

805
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: fuck them on your toes. And that's just to remind yourself. Yeah,

806
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 1: all these people their little opinions right, doesn't matter, mister

807
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: armchair critic. It's so easy to a show, sit down

808
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 1: with your little note pad and say little your little pen.

809
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 1: You know, weak, weak, Garrett. You try to get up

810
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 1: on stage and singing cabaret every single night. I mean,

811
00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: being a single mom, you putting on your mom had right,

812
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 1: and then putting on your top hat, your top hat,

813
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: then for your boyfriend putting on your sexy hat or

814
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: she says, or beret, whatever you're into. That's as far

815
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 1: as a fetish goes in. Terry's head is like French French, Yeah,

816
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: and she's like, I'm gonna be French and I'm gonna

817
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: pretend to smoke for a guy French on top ah

818
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: who play right. Also, it's like she's not even doing

819
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: French maid, She's just doing generally French. She's general French,

820
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: fully clothes winter French. I mean, I feel like that's

821
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: a lot of like Ridgewood. Straight girls are kind of

822
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: like doing French, doing French and bad probably sure just

823
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:58,800
Speaker 1: being puett Pecketts. Let me see your baggett um. So

824
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 1: just really quickly the book ends. Can I just read

825
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: a passage? Please? Okay, But part of what I let

826
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: go in Africa is gone forever. The release was so

827
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 1: powerful that the memory of that feeling has become something

828
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,800
Speaker 1: I can use to ground myself, sort of like a mantra.

829
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: I think of Africa a place which was, is, and

830
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: will always be bigger and stronger than I am. She's like,

831
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: was right, Yeah, now that I won my golden Globe,

832
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: I'm actually bigger and stronger than Africa. Well no, she's

833
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: going to go ahead and say that it was, is

834
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 1: and will be. Like, Africa is quite historic, yet it

835
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 1: is quite a large continent as well, and there's comfort

836
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: in that I'm not free floating and alone. Africa is

837
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,479
Speaker 1: big enough to contain me and all my emotional litter.

838
00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: And so I urge you to look for the place

839
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: or book or being that can do the same for you.

840
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 1: Do the daily work, make this small changes, follow your

841
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: chosen path, and when the time is right, you'll find

842
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: your Africa. Fuck yes, I mean, I couldn't have said

843
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: it better myself. No, That's what I say to all

844
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: of my mentees at the end of a long day.

845
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: Draw yourself a bath and one day your Africa yours

846
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 1: when you do the work drawing yourself a bath, put

847
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 1: in your leftover wine because you had dinner for one right,

848
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: and you had a bottle of wine for wineh I

849
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 1: hate wasting. So what do you do? Well, you can't

850
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: over it's already the port into the bath and then

851
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: you have a sexy wine scented bath. And actually the

852
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:48,240
Speaker 1: antioxidants are really good for your skin and promote anti aging.

853
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: Revestral is that chemical? Then think about a triput to

854
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: Africa and realize Africa is still with you. It's bigger

855
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: than you, yeah it can. And all of your litter,

856
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: so much litter, so of divorce, so colonial of her.

857
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: You know, she just littered all of her baggage all

858
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: over Africa. Taylor Swift went to Africa, shot a video,

859
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 1: left her bullshit there and back. Terry Hatcher left all

860
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: of her spirals there, but took some back in her

861
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, away luggage. Right. I like to think of

862
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,800
Speaker 1: a sort of a poacher falling into one of Terry's

863
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:35,839
Speaker 1: emotional traps. Serves them right. Terry gets poached. They sell

864
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 1: Terry on the black market. Terry Hatcher wigs Terry Hatcher

865
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: bags known for their medicinal qualities. Those wine exfoliants and

866
00:51:47,040 --> 00:52:01,080
Speaker 1: they just make you completely insane. Yeah, segment Fye what

867
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 1: does she eat? What does she wear? Okay, so Terry,

868
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: I think food wise is she's obviously not a culinary stop.

869
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:12,920
Speaker 1: Well no, but she loves she is a little bit.

870
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: She is down to open up Julia child and take

871
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: on a big project. But she but it doesn't come

872
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: from a place of like loving food or like being

873
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: this like it comes from stress. Like it comes from

874
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: stress and wanting to like do the thing that like

875
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: will impress people, or like do the thing that she

876
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: could challenge her Oh for sure. I'm just saying some

877
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: people put their stress in other projects, and as someone

878
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: that's where she goes. She does go to the culinary

879
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: arts with her stress, right, So that's I'm just saying.

880
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,800
Speaker 1: She's ready to take on a goose. She's ready to

881
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: take on a scale potato. She's teaching Emerson how to

882
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 1: make coos coussolutely not being like we discovered this new

883
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 1: hole in the wall time she is. She made her

884
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: entire road trip with her ex husband to like go

885
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: to like so Guy Fieri Diners dives and eats to

886
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: go get it. It was it was like she wants

887
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 1: to open up a diner in Montana just because it's

888
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: all stressed. But it's it's coming from a place of

889
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: like stress, I management, it's not coming from a place

890
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: of like where she actually just like is loving flavors.

891
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: I think that can come from both. And I'm going

892
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: to stand for her passion for cuisine. I think I

893
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: really think that you are making assumptions about her palette

894
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 1: that you think. I'm sorry, I actually think you are putting,

895
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: actually taking away some of the funness that is in

896
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 1: her life. She's going on wine trips, She's tasting ribs. Yes,

897
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: she is this spiraling woman. Hello, it's so a spiraling

898
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: person to like pride themselves on finding a hole in

899
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: the wall. Huh. I guess I feel like Terrys the

900
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,680
Speaker 1: kind of no one's no one's saying that she's not

901
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: a crazy spiraler. Okay, I'm just saying, let's give her

902
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: if I just give her her due, can I just

903
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: say something super quickly? Okay, doing go? I feel like

904
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: she's the kind of person who is having the breakfast

905
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 1: at the Weston and it is such a Hotel breakfast

906
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: and it's like so like over creeks in like one

907
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 1: terry tomato, and she is not thinking. She's just being like, hmm,

908
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 1: this is lovely. You know. I don't think that she's

909
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: having such a nuanced review of the Weston Breakfast. And

910
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,440
Speaker 1: that's when I mean I say that, I don't think

911
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: that she is like loving it, enjoying food for the

912
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 1: sake of the flavors that comes. I mean counterpoint, she's

913
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 1: not getting to the Weston Breakfast, and I don't think

914
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,319
Speaker 1: she's raving about it. I think it's a different vibe.

915
00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: She's getting there and she's saying I got to the

916
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: hotel buffet at nine to fifty nine. It ended a

917
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: tense while loaded up on croissants, piled some eggs in

918
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,880
Speaker 1: a plate, and because I knew it was going to

919
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: be full, and so I put some of the croissants

920
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 1: in a bag for later take for Amerson because she

921
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,839
Speaker 1: would have a six. So you wound get hungry. We're

922
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: in a long drive, so Salimita and I had to

923
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: go to set and then we binged on Dell Talk

924
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: at five, right, and sometimes you have to binge on

925
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,840
Speaker 1: del Taco. But I'm not going to feel aboad it exactly.

926
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying is that I don't think that

927
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: the point you're making proves the point I think these

928
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: things are not in. Yeah, I don't think we're really

929
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 1: just agreeing. I'm just saying I all I want you

930
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: to say is I must think she does that. She

931
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: doesn't like let herself go and like enjoy del taco.

932
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: I just don't think that she's a real flavorhound. I

933
00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:28,720
Speaker 1: think she wants to be. Let's move on. Let's okay,

934
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: what does she wear? I mean, let's flip to this baby.

935
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 1: She is the most poles person alive. It's flares, it's

936
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: tight sweaters, it's seamless leather jackets. I don't think her

937
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: style has evolved since two thousand and four. No, no, no, no, no,

938
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: absolutely not the seamless other jackets, the diagonal zippers, the

939
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: light Yeah, the way like like a cowl neck like

940
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: long sleeve top that's like really thin. It's thin tight sweaters.

941
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,319
Speaker 1: I think it's what she's wearing on desper Housewives all

942
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,520
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah. And it's throwing your hair in a

943
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,439
Speaker 1: ponytail to make up. It's no makeup. Sevens Yeah, she's

944
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,760
Speaker 1: she's not wearing coals, She's wearing sevens. She's getting expensive denim.

945
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: It's like it's like it's it's, you know, Bloomingdale's quality coals,

946
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 1: and it's yeah, it's a She's always like I throw

947
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: in a white T shirt, but that white T shirt

948
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: is like Threadbear. I don't know if it's so with Threadbear,

949
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: it's thin. She's a Santi Sta for sure. I think

950
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: she has a whole. She has a dresser with like

951
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: fourteen different sense. Yeah. Do you think she has like

952
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: a classic She's just there's a channel, there's there's all

953
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,080
Speaker 1: of you. She's going through the sense and she's she's

954
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: a kind of a little bit on lan Coomb and

955
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 1: being so old woman about it. Oh, I think she's

956
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: a little more decan. Why but I bet there's a

957
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: landcomb surfacing on the dresser, the lan Coombs, the cocoas. Yeah. No,

958
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 1: I think she's definitely perfumed. Do you think she's like

959
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: embarrassed by like a shapely perfume bottle. I could also

960
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: see her like putting on a boyfriend's cologne and being like,

961
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: this is so sketchy, but I put on my boyfriend's

962
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 1: call she did it once and then for two years

963
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: she was like, and sometimes you have to put on

964
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 1: your boyfriend's collect right, I'm just like, sorry, do I

965
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: smell so weird? I put on his cologne? But then

966
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: I told myself, you know what, fuck them? Okay? How

967
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: does she live? How does she live? As we said,

968
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: bins for days, it's bins for days. It's tables piled

969
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: high with scripts. And I think it's California country. Yeah, absolutely,

970
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: California country where it's like gray carpet sections, big drugs.

971
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: It's not the heaviest furniture you've ever seen, but it's medium.

972
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: It's medium for sure, Japandy, it is not. No, it's

973
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 1: a big couch for her and Emerson to sit down.

974
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 1: Lounge popcorn. Yeah, she's spilling red wine on the couch.

975
00:57:56,920 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 1: Were a popcorn house, right, m get the popcorn going.

976
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: And she definitely has like a ceramic dar on the

977
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: kitchen calendar that has like popcorn kernels to like make

978
00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: popcorn yourself to. Yeah, it's not like so, but she

979
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: also has like I'm sure there's a full countiful of

980
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: Orville like my gray popcorn too. We live in society,

981
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 1: big light, granite Island. Oh my god, it's defined white grabs. Yeah,

982
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: huge bull yeah, huge huge. And I think she has

983
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: stemless and stem glasses, but I think she usually uses

984
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: the stems and is like, don't eat the burnt toast. Huh,

985
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: I'm using the stems. Do you disagree? I do disagree

986
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: because I think that she's a little bit worried she's

987
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: gonna spill. She's gonna spill, and it just and I

988
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: think it feels a little bit too dramatic and celebratory

989
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: to have a stem. When she's loaned, she just grabs

990
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: the she gorabs the stem less. So we think she

991
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: does both. I think I think, yeah, absolutely right, that

992
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 1: she goes back and forth and she has okay three

993
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 1: sixty five for trigger Joe's or she like we don't

994
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 1: really know all like you know all like grocery stores more. Yeah,

995
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time in Los Angeles from there,

996
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 1: And I think that she is a Gelson's girl. And

997
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 1: she's also going to home fits, Like I don't think

998
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: she's going She's not like going to three sixty five

999
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:19,880
Speaker 1: and like bargain hunting for flower. I don't know. I

1000
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: guess I'm like, I just see a bunch of like

1001
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: three sixty five like Israeli couscous in her cabinet. She's

1002
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: grabbing those from but she's not going to the three

1003
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: sixty five store. No, no, no, which I don't even know.

1004
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:33,440
Speaker 1: We are you referencing that because there is a threesty

1005
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 1: five store and I know there is kind of cool. Yeah,

1006
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,959
Speaker 1: really quickly, I think the last part of the second

1007
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: that we need to do. Yeah, who are you in

1008
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: the book? Okay, who are you in the book? Well,

1009
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: I think you're miss Gorgeous. I'm her one gay friend. Yeah,

1010
00:59:47,320 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: that's a little easy, don't she think? Absolutely? You don't

1011
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 1: think I'm vow. I was gonna say I'm vow. I

1012
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: think you're that weird friend who lives across the apartment

1013
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: complex from her, who she liked. Oh, I like that

1014
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: one trip to Vegas where she gets so mad at him.

1015
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: They like spontaneously go to Vegas because tickets really sixty dollars,

1016
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,200
Speaker 1: and then they like get in this huge fight because

1017
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: they can't find a hotel room. Like once again, it

1018
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:18,120
Speaker 1: was like internally friend zoned by Harry. Friend Zone so

1019
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 1: hard forever, which is so you and me and you're

1020
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: always trying to fuck and then he like just moved

1021
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: in New Jersey and gets married and like has a

1022
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,400
Speaker 1: working fridge and two kids. Here. You should have fucking

1023
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: fuck ned and nailed it down. You probably would have

1024
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: been happy, and he would have treated you, treated you

1025
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: like a queen. Honey. She talks about how much she

1026
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: lost her sexuality. Okay, I'm ned your valve. Yeah, friends, friends,

1027
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,520
Speaker 1: we're friends or in many ways? Where are you? In

1028
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: many ways? Emerson, I don't know, You're You're a weird collage.

1029
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm Emerson meets ned ned Rising, Emerson Moon Emerson Moon

1030
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: ned Rising, I don't know. I'm Terry right, Oh yeah,

1031
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: actually yeah, and I have been absolutely freaking out for

1032
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 1: the past year. You are on the bathroom floor, sobbing, crying.

1033
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, when I you are, you're making potatoes

1034
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: and maybe throwing them out and then ordering Chinese. I'm

1035
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:32,280
Speaker 1: definitely like five minutes before like my friends are coming over.

1036
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm like screaming at my boyfriend to just be like

1037
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,960
Speaker 1: make the cheese board now, and just like what the

1038
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: fuck are you doing making melted breathe. So, Okay, yeah,

1039
01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: you're Terry, I'm ned, So you owe me that little

1040
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:56,439
Speaker 1: ride well, that seems like a fun note to end on. Yeah.

1041
01:01:56,640 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: Next week's book is none other that songwriter, rock and

1042
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: roll artist and controversial member of our world n and

1043
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: her book Remembrance. She is an iconic protester, activist, storyteller, singer,

1044
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:24,120
Speaker 1: and now a Muslim And we damn did we read

1045
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: her book? Damn we read? Um. Y'all y'all not gonna

1046
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 1: want to miss this one. Okay, best see you soon,

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Speaker 1: best regards, all the best. Bye. Celebrity Book Club is

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Speaker 1: presented by prolog Projects, which is so cool and head Gum,

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Speaker 1: which I just I just have to pinch myself that

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Speaker 1: that's happening. The show is produced by Meg Burnin Um,

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Speaker 1: who I called last week three times and she called

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Speaker 1: me back. Yeah, but I'm sure she's super busy and

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Speaker 1: everyone's really busy in the Summer's great see um. We

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Speaker 1: also have editorial support from Leonifak, who I had a

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Speaker 1: really fun coffee with a couple of months ago. Um,

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Speaker 1: and I think we could be friends. I mean I could,

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Speaker 1: I could see us being friends. M Andrew Parsons is

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Speaker 1: also super nice, and I know he's married and has

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Speaker 1: a lot of kids. Um, but I think we're probably

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Speaker 1: gonna get together over the fourth, so that's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: UM and Madeline Kaplan, who just has she has amazing style.

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Speaker 1: And she was wearing this dress and I said, oh,

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Speaker 1: where'd you get that dress? And then she said, I, oh,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think that we've met. And I

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Speaker 1: was like, okay, but but she's really fun. Um Our

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Speaker 1: production manner is Persia Berlin, and I know, I feel

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Speaker 1: so bad because I said her knee wrong the last time,

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Speaker 1: and I told I'm not going to do it again.

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Speaker 1: And I think I think I nailed it. Percie. If

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Speaker 1: I didn't, you have my permission to have my head

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Speaker 1: on a bladder. Um Engineering by Ferris Manche. I honestly,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how these guys do it. I mean

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Speaker 1: they are there, they are so no. I mean put

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Speaker 1: me in front of one of those things, and you

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Speaker 1: know they probably did. They probably fired me right there

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Speaker 1: for the whole thing will go down in flames. UM

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Speaker 1: original theme song by Steam Phillip's horst Um. He he

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Speaker 1: actually did die and that was something that was really

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Speaker 1: really it was really sad for everybody on the crew.

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Speaker 1: UM and I sent his partner UM some muffins from

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Speaker 1: this amazing bakery that I found actually while my mother

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Speaker 1: was going forward cancer scare. Artwork by Teddy Blanks at

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Speaker 1: Chips and why what a nice guy and just I

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Speaker 1: mean really really, really really really Salt of the Earth. UM.

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Speaker 1: Follow us on Twitter at CBC the Pod. I'm not

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Speaker 1: there yet, but trust me, I'm gonna get there. I've

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Speaker 1: got Emily is Is, she's, she's, she's getting me. Um, she's, she's,

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Speaker 1: she's getting me on that. I don't know how I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna do it, but I'm gonna get on the internet. UM.

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Speaker 1: Subscribe on your favorite podcast app, leave us a review,

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Speaker 1: and please, please, please please please you tell your friends

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Speaker 1: about us. You know everyone says that, but it actually

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Speaker 1: really really really does pattern It would make us so happy. Ah.

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Speaker 1: So I can't wait to see you guys soon and

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Speaker 1: please please please come over. UM. I'm doing a fun

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Speaker 1: little reading group UM kind of toughest clothing swap thing

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Speaker 1: UM at my house. UM. And that's uh, that's that's

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Speaker 1: my house in um in Glendale. So just when you yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's come, it's on Sunday. It's it's so for everyone's

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Speaker 1: invite to bring your part, bring, bring whoever, bring anyone,

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Speaker 1: bring your dog. That was a hit. Gum Podcast