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Speaker 1: we have some major heavening right now in real time

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Speaker 1: breaking news from our friends over there in the UK.

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Speaker 1: Prime Minister Liz Trust has just resigned after only six

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Speaker 1: Corus Johnson had to resign under pressure for a whole

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Speaker 1: been following this really close. I actually did a monologue

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Speaker 1: here on Liz Trust and her economic plan, what they

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Speaker 1: call a mini budget which had like eye watering tax

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Speaker 1: they saying, shortest serving leader in British political history six

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Speaker 1: all ultimately means. But obviously incredible, shocking, quite historic news

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Speaker 1: is that? Where is that messaging? Where is at least

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Speaker 1: they won in Georgia by saying really clearly, you're going

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Speaker 1: to get checks, You're gonna get checks, You're gonna get checks. Remember,

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Speaker 1: we're not all that stuff that worked, and they just

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Speaker 1: completely memory hold it because they're incompetent, incompetent, because they're

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Speaker 1: ideologically stupid, and because they also don't want to make

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Speaker 1: promises that they ultimately don't really want to follow through. Well,

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to do it. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: really what comes through to me. And like, at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, we've seen the whole mansion sin

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Speaker 1: him a game enough times that people just don't believe it,

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Speaker 1: and maybe they shouldn't. I mean, why would you, like,

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Speaker 1: do you really have confidence if you have fifty one

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Speaker 1: votes that some sort of new reconciliation bill is going

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Speaker 1: to come through. Like, well, what they're saying is if

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Speaker 1: they have two more senators, right, they can get rid

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Speaker 1: of the filibuster at least for Roe versus Wait and again,

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Speaker 1: are they going to actually do that or some new

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Speaker 1: you know, the rotating villain theory whatever someoneknew going to

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Speaker 1: pop up and say, actually, I decided I love the

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Speaker 1: filibuster too, very very possible. But they're literally, I mean

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Speaker 1: even okay, even if you just wanted to lean into abortion,

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Speaker 1: they're not even doing that. Well, like they never put

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Speaker 1: these Republicans on the right, pressure them, making difficult for

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Speaker 1: them and made them take hard votes. Nancy Pelissi was

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Speaker 1: pressed by Andrew Mitchell of like, well, what's going to

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Speaker 1: be different when you have fifty two centers versus you

454
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Speaker 1: already have power, why not try to codify it? Now?

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Speaker 1: Just nothing but excuse making so even on the issue

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Speaker 1: that they've decided to be all in on, even on that,

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Speaker 1: they're not fighting. So what makes anyone think they're going

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Speaker 1: to fight if they were? Yeah, I mean I remember

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Speaker 1: we said this here. We're like, hey, look, you know,

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Speaker 1: Republicans all say that they support a fifteen week man. Republicans,

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Speaker 1: I believe, have all voted, Most of the people in

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Speaker 1: the chamber have voted for twenty two weeks. So I'm like,

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Speaker 1: all right, I put it on the floor, then put it.

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Speaker 1: Do it say if you actually believe this? Like fine,

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Speaker 1: But they won't even do that, right, I think that

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Speaker 1: is you know that that's a whole other conversation about

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Speaker 1: the abortion groups and all these other people. But they

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Speaker 1: have really squandered what could have been a good moment

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Speaker 1: for them. And I think you're right, which you can't

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Speaker 1: let them off the hook whatsoever. So look, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you have fundamentals plus bad politics doesn't take a genius.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me say one more thing because I

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Speaker 1: really am on TAR, but I cannot. Republicans have said

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Speaker 1: they want to cut social security in medicare. How does

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Speaker 1: not every American in the country know that fact and

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Speaker 1: want to put the debt ceiling on the table to

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Speaker 1: do they want? They are out saying they want to

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Speaker 1: trigger a government crisis when they come into office. That

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Speaker 1: is their own stated plan. Why does everyone not know that?

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Speaker 1: It is complete political malpractice? And you know what, Yes,

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Speaker 1: the landscape a still difficult party power all these things,

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Speaker 1: but you're not even trying. You're not even trying, and

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Speaker 1: so yeah, now next piece. Predictably, instead of actually trying

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Speaker 1: to win, instead they're just trying to figure out who

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Speaker 1: to throw under the bus. And I can tell you

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Speaker 1: who will get thrown under the bus. It's the left,

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Speaker 1: even though Bernie Sanders the only one who's saying anything

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Speaker 1: that makes any damn sense politically or otherwise. Let's gohead

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Speaker 1: and put this up on the screen from our old

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Speaker 1: friends at the Hill. Democrats ready for midterm blame game

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Speaker 1: Alexander Bolton three weeks out, beginning to look more and

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Speaker 1: more like a victory for Republicans. Democrats are playing the

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Speaker 1: blame game. You had Obama preemptively come out now actually

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Speaker 1: thought some of his comments. I didn't listen to the

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Speaker 1: whole thing, but he talked about, you know, sort of

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Speaker 1: the like overwoke language. She said. Democrats and progressives can

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Speaker 1: be a buzzkill by constantly scolding people for being politically incorrect.

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Speaker 1: You've got Alyssa Slotkin and some other younger House Democrats

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Speaker 1: who are in tough in tough spots are arguing the

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Speaker 1: party leadership has fallen out of touch and have called

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Speaker 1: for a quote new generation of new blood in charge

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Speaker 1: of the party. Now, these are the people who are, like,

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Speaker 1: you know, they make like the peak Boodageese argument of

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Speaker 1: generational change, with's like, let's keep the same terrible politics,

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Speaker 1: but let's just stick some new people in charge ultimately.

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Speaker 1: But I just think it's very telling that already you

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Speaker 1: have people trying to angle to be able to shape

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Speaker 1: the narrative of exactly why they lost. Well, I actually

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Speaker 1: I am not sure that the left will get the blame.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think the woke stuff is I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: it's not like the center leftists aren't all woke on

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Speaker 1: their own, so they're worse because there are so many

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Speaker 1: woke and then they don't even do anything that's prey point.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, I actually think Biden is going to

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Speaker 1: get a ton of the heat. I think he deserves it.

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Speaker 1: He's the leader of the party, he's the person who'

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Speaker 1: squandered this moment. He's the person who's going to preside

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Speaker 1: over a loss of some sort and who majority of

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Speaker 1: his people. So I don't think old Biden can wriggle

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Speaker 1: his way out of this. So there's just no way,

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Speaker 1: Like if you lose an election, it's just it's on you.

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Speaker 1: Obama suffered this in twenty ten, Bush in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and six, like Clinton in ninety four. Every single one

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Speaker 1: of them effectively had to make a statement where they're like,

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Speaker 1: I take responsibility and I'm either going to adjust course

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Speaker 1: and try and win my reelection or like this is

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Speaker 1: on me. Ultimately, everyone you just named did win their

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Speaker 1: real life I know, but they had higher approval ratings

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Speaker 1: than Biden does. And Biden, as we've been covering consistently,

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Speaker 1: a majority of the Democratic Party says we want someone

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Speaker 1: else now. That's before suffering what could potentially be a

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Speaker 1: significant midterm defeat. And the whole reason this guy is

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Speaker 1: here is because he's supposedly a winner, you know. I

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Speaker 1: mean we talk about that with Trump, like his whole

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Speaker 1: like we're going to retire to winning whatever. The only

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Speaker 1: reason Democrats back this guy when they preferred other policies,

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Speaker 1: especially on economics, than what Biden was offering, was because

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Speaker 1: they thought he was the guy who could win. He

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Speaker 1: was the guy that could take out Trump. And they're

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Speaker 1: going to be very concerned about that again because obviously

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Speaker 1: Trump is waiting in the wings to make his comeback.

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Speaker 1: So what is it going to look like for Democratic

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Speaker 1: voters if now, not only do you not really like

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Speaker 1: what he has to offer in terms of economics, but

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Speaker 1: you also don't really think that this is the guy

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Speaker 1: who's up to the task of beating Trump. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: his age and his you know, inability to like really

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Speaker 1: coherently speak, and his brain meltdowns and all those things

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Speaker 1: like that plays a very significant role into that calculation

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Speaker 1: as well. So I do think you're right. I think

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Speaker 1: if Democrats suffer you know, real significant defeat in the midterms,

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Speaker 1: if Republicans take the House and they take the Senate,

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Speaker 1: I do think Biden is going to be in a

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Speaker 1: very vulnerable position to a potential interprimary or you know,

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Speaker 1: party primary challenge that could very much take him out

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Speaker 1: because what is the rationale for keeping him if you're

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Speaker 1: not doing a good job and we don't believe you

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Speaker 1: can win. Yeah, no, look, I think you're right. Also,

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Speaker 1: not for nothing. His eightieth birthday is a month away,

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Speaker 1: so just so everybody knows that that'll be Actually I'm

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Speaker 1: gona be curious if they even acknowledge that he turns

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Speaker 1: eight years old like his own. They've been trying to

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Speaker 1: downplay it, for sure. Yet they're not doing the big

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Speaker 1: O great day bash for sure. Yeah. In the Belgarad

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Speaker 1: region of Russia. You've had a couple of major developments

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Speaker 1: as well that have that are changing the character of

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Speaker 1: this war. Uh. And the first and we have uh footage,

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Speaker 1: we have footage of this too. Yes. So so there

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Speaker 1: was a shooting. Uh. We'll go to the We'll go

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Speaker 1: to the footage in a second. So this was a

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Speaker 1: mass shooting carried out at a training center. Now the Russia,

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Speaker 1: the Russian government has been explicit in trying to say

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Speaker 1: that these were all recruits and volunteers. These are not draftees.

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Speaker 1: They don't want the impression out there that these are

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Speaker 1: people who have been conscripted into the war and as

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Speaker 1: soon as they get to the training center start shooting

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Speaker 1: people full metal jacket style. Right now, take that with

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Speaker 1: a grain of salt, like these very well could have

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Speaker 1: been conscripts. What they're also saying is that they were

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Speaker 1: these were Tajik men, you know who were who were? Uh,

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Speaker 1: Which which plays into the kind of ethno nationalism that

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Speaker 1: kind of you know, outsiders and others who are who

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Speaker 1: are attacking the motherland or something along those lines. But

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Speaker 1: what you have is at least eleven you know, that's

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Speaker 1: what they're admitting to people. You know, soldiers who were

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Speaker 1: supposed to be getting trained and during a live fire drill. Uh,

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Speaker 1: these these two men just turned on everybody, just start

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Speaker 1: start blowing them away. So, uh, what what was your

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Speaker 1: reaction when you start because you know, I ever see

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Speaker 1: a mass shooting, You're like, oh, that's a United States story.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's I want to ask you on that

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Speaker 1: point what this says about Actually you you mentioned this

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Speaker 1: just a couple of moments ago earlier, about Putin's sort

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Speaker 1: of new messaging campaign for his own country. But what

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Speaker 1: this war is about, especially as he is having to

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Speaker 1: rely on sending conscripts into war and kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: going to run all of these different strategies. To you,

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Speaker 1: what does this say about his ability to like really

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Speaker 1: seriously carry that out, which I mean clearly he sees

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Speaker 1: that as a central aspect of his strategy, being able

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Speaker 1: to muster this nationalism as a as a weapon, really

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Speaker 1: a massive weapon in terms of morale. There's a contradiction

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Speaker 1: in it because he is relying on the kind of

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Speaker 1: outer regions the other ethnicity is withinside the Russian Federation

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Speaker 1: to make up a disproportionate share, just like we do

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Speaker 1: here in the United States, of his of his military.

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Speaker 1: So he's trying to have it both ways, and it's

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Speaker 1: not going to work. I think this mobilization, I think

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Speaker 1: is going to be He's going to prove to be

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Speaker 1: disastrous for him because, as has been talked about by

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Speaker 1: a number of different commentaries, what Putin, what was so

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Speaker 1: successful for Putin over several decades of his rule was

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Speaker 1: mass demobilization. Was to make a contract with the Russian

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Speaker 1: people that says there's going to be a significant level

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Speaker 1: of security, stability, both economic and and just crime. And

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Speaker 1: you know where I'm going to cut down on crime,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to cut down on economic insecurity, you're you're

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Speaker 1: going to have pride in your country again. And in exchange,

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Speaker 1: the deal is basically, don't worry about politics, like, don't

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Speaker 1: run candidates against me. I you know, they'll be kicked

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Speaker 1: off the ballot, or they'll be jailed, or they'll be

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Speaker 1: killed and then we'll be cool. Like that was the deal.

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Speaker 1: And so that that that is demobilization. And so to

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Speaker 1: mobilize the entire country on behalf of a what is

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Speaker 1: now unmistakably a war, which he spent so many months

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Speaker 1: saying is just a special military operation, it then undoes

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Speaker 1: the entire bargain that has that has kept him in power.

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Speaker 1: And you have to think, why did he call it

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Speaker 1: a special military operation if he thought this was going

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Speaker 1: to be popular. And one of the reasons is he

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Speaker 1: wants it to be a side show. You can continue

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Speaker 1: to be demobilized, sit at home, yes, put put a

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Speaker 1: Z on your door, support the war, support your country,

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Speaker 1: be a patriot. And that deal held like for the

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Speaker 1: very for the first almost year. And I mean he's

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Speaker 1: obviously very capable of controlling the flow of information in

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Speaker 1: the country, and that's been a build up over the

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Speaker 1: course of years. So when he feels that confident controlling

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Speaker 1: the narrative, you know, we are denazifying Ukraine and the

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Speaker 1: country's going to against that. It's a special military operation

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Speaker 1: to denotify Ukraine. And now the speech of just a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago he gave sort of broad into

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Speaker 1: the scope of it though, and said this is about

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Speaker 1: the West, this is about us, versus this rotting sort

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Speaker 1: of ideology that is creeping onto our land from the west,

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Speaker 1: and that's what we're taking a stand against. So it

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Speaker 1: is you know, I feel like that was broadening to

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Speaker 1: an extent of the way he was willing to frame

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Speaker 1: the war, and it's retconning the whole mission too, because

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Speaker 1: then you don't you don't get to launch a war

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Speaker 1: and then six months into it say that, actually we're

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Speaker 1: doing the war for this reason. Well, actually it is

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Speaker 1: a war, right and actually it is a war, although

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Speaker 1: you could you could argue that that has happened in

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Speaker 1: the past. So if you take the US Civil War

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Speaker 1: for instance, sure that was initially a war to preserve

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Speaker 1: the Union, where and Lincoln and the other Republican leaders

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Speaker 1: are being very clear this is not this is not

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Speaker 1: about you know, freeing you know, it's not about ending slavery.

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Speaker 1: But then in the cauldron of the war, it reshapes itself.

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Speaker 1: I don't see any way that this comes across though,

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Speaker 1: as anything other than face saving at this point, like

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Speaker 1: you can't can't lose the war and and then start saying, well, actually,

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Speaker 1: this is an existential war, war, you know, against Western civilization.

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Speaker 1: You can if you control the flow of information in

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Speaker 1: your country, it's much easier to make the to make

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Speaker 1: the claim that that's what's really happening. But but controlling

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Speaker 1: the flow of information is harder when things are happening

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Speaker 1: inside your borders. Absolutely, like the fact that they immediately

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Speaker 1: acknowledged this mass shooting at this training center, and another

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Speaker 1: thing that going on inside their borders. If we have

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Speaker 1: footage of this, uh, this Ukrainian strike in the Belgorod region.

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Speaker 1: So this is you know, for the first six months

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Speaker 1: of the war Ish Ukraine, you know, very much refrained

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Speaker 1: from attacking, you know, inside Russian territory outside of you know,

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Speaker 1: forget forget who controls a dumbas or crimea like inside

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Speaker 1: what everybody understands to be Russia's borders. But here we

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Speaker 1: have missile strikes hitting a power hitting a civilian center again,

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Speaker 1: which which is ugly because if you have civilian strike

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Speaker 1: against civilian strike, they hit they hit an airport, they

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Speaker 1: hit a they hit a utility, you know, they hit

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Speaker 1: a power utility. Yeah, it's that okay. So if you

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Speaker 1: could connect the dots for us between the first thing

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Speaker 1: we talked about, which is these potentially Iranian made drones

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Speaker 1: coming in from you know, they have a range of

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Speaker 1: something like twelve hundred plus miles coming into Kiev. What

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Speaker 1: is the sort of connection between A and B there?

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Speaker 1: What does it mean that we're seeing both of these

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Speaker 1: things happen within the same timeframe. Well, I think there is.

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Speaker 1: Russia is certainly going for kind of maximum pain on

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Speaker 1: you know, to inflict on on Ukraine in order to

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Speaker 1: try to pump up domestic support for the war, to

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Speaker 1: show that like this is, you know, we're still capable

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Speaker 1: of of reigning destruction down on Ukraine, and the and

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Speaker 1: the subtle implication is always and we're holding back like

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Speaker 1: that's a central component of the Russian messaging, which is

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Speaker 1: that we actually could be doing a lot worse to

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Speaker 1: Ukraine than we are, and you should be grateful that

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Speaker 1: we're not. And if we're forced to, if we're back

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Speaker 1: into a corner, we will do much worse right. And

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Speaker 1: that's where the nuclear table, said of the rattling comes into.

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Speaker 1: That's where it all comes down to at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, the willingness to deploy, for instance, tactical

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Speaker 1: nuclear weapons. And that's why if you haven't watched Ryan's

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Speaker 1: monologue from Friday about the dire urgent need for negotiations,

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Speaker 1: and our foreign policy establishments disinterest in actually really meaningfully

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Speaker 1: approaching the negotiating table. Go take a look at that.

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Speaker 1: It's really fantastic, and Ryan, this is actually a very

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Speaker 1: courageous stand against nuclear war. It was really bold. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm surprised to hear Ryan coming out in favor of

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Speaker 1: peace and annihilation. Then again, yeah, the controversial position here

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Speaker 1: in Washington. But it's controversial. Somebody's got to say it.

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Speaker 1: Somebody had to do it, and you were willing to.

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Speaker 1: You rose your stantity. You said, I'll do one of

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Speaker 1: the stories we didn't get to. You wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: about happiness. That's what we wanted to talk about, happiness.

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Speaker 1: And a new survey released by it was the twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty two American Family Survey. You combine that with a

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Speaker 1: new poll from you gov and desiree News that found

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Speaker 1: liberals are about fifteen percentage points less likely to be

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Speaker 1: quote completely satisfied with their lives. Right, and is laughing.

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Speaker 1: This is from unheard Brad Wilcox, a great Brad Willcox

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Speaker 1: whose work you should follow. He says, quote Liberals, especially

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Speaker 1: liberal women, are significantly less likely to be happy with

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Speaker 1: their lives and satisfied with their mental health compared to

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Speaker 1: their conservative peers aged eighteen to fifty five. More from

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Speaker 1: brad Quote. The survey goes on to find that liberals

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Speaker 1: are about eighteen percentage points less likely to be completely

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Speaker 1: satisfied with their mental health and conservatives. But the problem

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Speaker 1: appears to be especially acute for liberal women, who register

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Speaker 1: the lowest level of satisfaction with their life, lives and

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Speaker 1: mental health. Indeed, only fifteen percent of liberal women in

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Speaker 1: the age group surveyed are completely satisfied with their lives

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Speaker 1: compared to thirty one percent of conservative women. Likewise, only

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Speaker 1: fifteen percent of liberal women are completely satisfied with their

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Speaker 1: mental health compared to thirty six percent of conservative women.

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Speaker 1: This is incredibly loaded data because it depends on how

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Speaker 1: you define terms like complete and satisfied, and then the

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Speaker 1: combination of them being completely satisfied. It depends on how

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Speaker 1: you define mental health and your own satisfaction with mental

742
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: health what does that look like? So if you believe

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Speaker 1: mental health is sort of a more pressing daily problem

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Speaker 1: that needs to be addressed, as many people on the

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Speaker 1: left probably do, then you may be less likely just

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Speaker 1: to be completely satisfied with your mental health, even if

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Speaker 1: you're mentally healthy. So this is like a very very

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Speaker 1: loaded sort of series of questions, and there are a

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Speaker 1: lot of variables to parse here. That said, when you

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Speaker 1: are able to see gaps, there's something there, what do

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Speaker 1: you make of it? Yonne? I mean, one thing off

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Speaker 1: the top I would say is that liberals are more

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Speaker 1: likely to have college degrees, more likely to have graduate degrees.

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Speaker 1: People with college degrees and graduate degrees are more likely

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Speaker 1: to be the types of people who are going to

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Speaker 1: actually something to death or nitpick the the kind of

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Speaker 1: definition of it. And so if you say to somebody

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Speaker 1: like that, are you completely satisfied, They're going to overthink

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Speaker 1: it in a way completely satisfied and they and they'll

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Speaker 1: have some philosophical rationale. Is anyone ever completely satisfied? If

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Speaker 1: I say that I'm completely satisfied, does that mean that

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Speaker 1: I have no aspirational satisfaction in the future? Like you know?

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Speaker 1: So I can see like a non trivial number of

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Speaker 1: liberals just consciously equibbling with and overthinking the question and

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Speaker 1: then refusing to like take part of some some are

766
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Speaker 1: going to do there not sure or check a check.

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Speaker 1: They're just going to refuse to participate in something takes

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Speaker 1: something as nuanced as the meeting of life and tries

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Speaker 1: to chump it into a single polling question. And so

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Speaker 1: they're they're going to be gone from that number, where

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Speaker 1: I think on the conservative side, you just get more

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Speaker 1: people that are like, yeah, completely satisfied. Thanks are good.

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Speaker 1: So Brad was last night. Brad does a lot of

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Speaker 1: really interesting work, and he's the author of the Unheard

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Speaker 1: article on marriage and children and the way that they

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00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: do create some measure of what you could call satisfaction

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Speaker 1: in people's lives, and his theory in the Unheard article

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Speaker 1: is that liberals are clearly less likely to be married

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Speaker 1: and less likely to have children, and that is eating

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Speaker 1: away at their ability to come to that answer that yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm completely satisfied with my life. Women. The Institute for

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Speaker 1: Family Studies Limonstone over there has done some really interesting

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Speaker 1: research on how American women are actually having fewer children

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Speaker 1: than they say they want to, which is an interesting point.

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Speaker 1: And we know that as the marriage rate has gone up,

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00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: that's also becoming an issue for women in terms of

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Speaker 1: whether they're able to enter into that institution and there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of actually research correlated that shows a correlation

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Speaker 1: between marriage and happiness. Now, children is another question. There's

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Speaker 1: some research that shows in certain periods of parenthood happiness

791
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Speaker 1: is not at its peak. So there's sort of a

792
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 1: different question there. But right, I wanted to ask you

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Speaker 1: one thing we see, especially in sort of urban areas,

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Speaker 1: you actually have a long marriage and a lot of

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00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: kids too. That's not super common on the left. Do

796
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: people look at you like you're a freak me sometimes? Yeah?

797
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Speaker 1: Do you do it? Man? Yeah, a little bit, especially

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Speaker 1: among millennials, I mean, especially in the younger left. Sure, yeah,

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Right right there, you have to you

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Speaker 1: have to have explanations. What is your explanation? I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't really want to get into all the explanations,

802
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: but you kind of need them. Then it's like, oh, okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, but I think another potential piece of this,

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Speaker 1: because I was trying to think how I would answer this, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: another potential piece of it could be liberal guilt about

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00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 1: the state of the world. Yeah. Absolutely, So if you

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Speaker 1: ask me in my personal life how I would answer this,

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00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,280
Speaker 1: I would say completely satisfied. But then I would immediately

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Speaker 1: feel guilty for saying that because I can't be happy

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Speaker 1: the world is such a miserable place right now, So

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Speaker 1: how dare I Because my satisfaction, you know, has to

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Speaker 1: also be connected to the other people in the world.

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Speaker 1: We're social beings, you know. If one person isn't free,

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Speaker 1: then nobody is free, that kind of that kind of approach.

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Speaker 1: So if one person isn't satisfied, nobody's satisfied. And so

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Speaker 1: for a lot of liberals, they really aren't satisfied unless

817
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: they feel like the world is moving in a positive

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Speaker 1: direction because they feel a responsibility for the rest of

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Speaker 1: the world, where ye conservatives probably have what is a

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Speaker 1: mental health mentally healthier way of approaching it, which is

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Speaker 1: to say, I'm looking out for me and my family. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the rest of you are kind of on your own,

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Speaker 1: and it's not my responsibility too, and it's not my

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Speaker 1: burden to worry about that. Well, I don't think they

825
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: would say it's not the responsibility or they're burdens so

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Speaker 1: much as they would say that it's the sort of

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Speaker 1: immediate question of satisfaction and happiness is one that you know,

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Speaker 1: they have to and not that like they don't continue

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Speaker 1: to do charity. There's research that shows conservatives tend to

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Speaker 1: be more philanthropic or charitable, but that it's the question

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Speaker 1: of happiness is not one that they can control for

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Speaker 1: other people. You can sort of do different things, but

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Speaker 1: not necessarily be able to control other people. That said,

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Speaker 1: there's the mental health question is a really interesting one.

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Speaker 1: I think there's some pretty convincing and persuasive research that

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Speaker 1: social media use, which is increasing for a lot of

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Speaker 1: different reasons, one of which it depends on how you

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Speaker 1: kind of define social media, but even things like Gmail,

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Speaker 1: we are all using these apps on our smartphones and

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Speaker 1: on laptops more and more and more, and if those

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Speaker 1: are demonstrated to show a decline in mental health. If

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Speaker 1: you are more likely to be educated, you're more likely

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Speaker 1: to be The more educated you are, the more likely

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Speaker 1: you are to be liberal, and that means you're probably

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00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: more likely to have a laptop job and or zoom,

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Speaker 1: so being what we now post COVID called the Zoom class,

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00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: which means you may be more likely to spend time

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Speaker 1: on social media, on your smartphone and working, and that

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Speaker 1: I can see very much being correlated with dips in

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Speaker 1: mental health, especially compared with people who are more likely

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Speaker 1: to be doing manual labor. People who are you know,

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Speaker 1: have kids to worry about and can't necessarily can actually

853
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: have a good excuse to put the phone down going forward.

854
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean it's a it's a difficult thing

855
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: to sort of parse out. I do think there's there's

856
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: really something to this question of mental health and lifestyle

857
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: that is hitting the left harder than it's hitting the

858
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,880
Speaker 1: right at the moment, given the way the sort of

859
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 1: working world is organized. As a deeply disturbing number of

860
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: fifteen percent of liberal women saying they're completely satisfied with

861
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: their mental health, that's a really small number. It's a

862
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: really smaller for liberal men. Is not a whole lot better,

863
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: And it's interesting, it's just brutal. It was interesting that

864
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: you're more than doubling it when you get to the

865
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:29,919
Speaker 1: question of conservatives as well. And so yes, it's still

866
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: only a third of people, only a third right, But

867
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: the fact that it's more than double miserable based on

868
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:39,839
Speaker 1: ideology is striking. And again it's something that I don't

869
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: think trickles into the political discourse at all. You hear

870
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,359
Speaker 1: a little bit of it from actually AOC who talks

871
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: about you know, the sort of I think she kind

872
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 1: of channels the sense of like millennial misery in ways

873
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 1: that you don't have a lot of figures on the

874
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: right other than maybe Trump, who talks about American carnage

875
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: and that sort of language or speaks in that sort

876
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: of language, is tapping into I think it's Marian Williamson

877
00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: who talks about, you know, this idea that if you

878
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: look at birth rates or people not wanting to have children,

879
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 1: what does that say about the mindset and the mental

880
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: health frankly of people going forward as well? And so, yeah,

881
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: these are really big questions. I don't think they are

882
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: questions that are politics is super focused on addressing I

883
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: know you would agree with me on that. We would

884
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: have different ways of addressing it. But yes, it's you know,

885
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens in the future, but interesting numbers.

886
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: And I would encourage certainly any politicians who might be

887
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: watching this to pay attention to that, because the country

888
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: can be going into some really dark places when you

889
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 1: have people in abject misery. Basically, we should move on

890
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: here to some stuff that Sager had been passing along.

891
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: We were going to cover it, and he passed along Ryan,

892
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: what was the tweet that he sent this morning was

893
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 1: really interesting? Well, go ahead, yah, so and you can

894
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: pull that up. So both NATO and UH the Russian

895
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: Federation are preparing for these for their annual nuclear drills,

896
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: which you know every every every year they come around,

897
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,919
Speaker 1: they do these different they do, they do these drills.

898
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: You know, do your drills. They go off without a hitch.

899
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: The world survives. It's always been, it's always been fine,

900
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: and it's always fine until it's not fine. Uh. To

901
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 1: have both of these UH entities doing nuclear drills with

902
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: the nuclear tensions ratcheted up to what they are suggests

903
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: you know, it has has people on edge, has people

904
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 1: praying that everybody is in communication, that that each side

905
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 1: is going to be able to tell UH a drill

906
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: from live action. UH. And and it's it's it's coming

907
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: amid increasingly hostile relations. Like war is obviously hostile, but

908
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: the war, as we were talking about yesterday, has taken

909
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: a turn where it's now battering civilian infrastructure in a

910
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,439
Speaker 1: way we haven't seen in in this war. And that's

911
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 1: actually what Zager passed along was Zelenski is claiming that

912
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:10,240
Speaker 1: up to thirty percent of power utilities have been taken

913
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,319
Speaker 1: offline so by Russian strikes, which is a war crime.

914
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: And it's not that you know, both sides are obviously

915
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: guilty of war crimes in every war. This is a

916
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: this is a war crime on a truly tremendous scale

917
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: heading into a Ukrainian winter, right, And so we have

918
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: a report from Wall Street Journals reported in Ukraine Matthew Lexmore,

919
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: who is saying Kiev is telling Ukrainians to prepare for

920
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: blackouts across the country after days on end of Russian

921
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 1: strikes on energy infrastructure. Indeed, as Zelenski said, thirty percent

922
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: of Ukraine's power stations have been destroyed and then the

923
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 1: consequence of that is blackouts heading into winter. And then

924
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 1: in the shadow of all of us, you have fourteen

925
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: I think it's like fourteen NATO countries doing the exercises.

926
00:49:55,400 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: This is a sixty sixty aircraft and that includes fighter rats,

927
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: includes surveillance planes. Like this is a this is it

928
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 1: feels like a very dystopian moment in the world. And

929
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: this I was thinking about the story of so seeing

930
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: that let's say a third of the power utilities have

931
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: been have been taken offline for now that I was

932
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: thinking about it in the context of the story that

933
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: Ukrainians are basically also running out of glass. Did you

934
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: see that story? No, I didn't see that. So and

935
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:32,439
Speaker 1: running out of windows basically, so you know when you're

936
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 1: when your city is getting shelled, even if you don't,

937
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 1: even if your building does not take a direct hit,

938
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: the chance, the chance that your window is going to

939
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: blow out is pretty significant. And it wasn't something that

940
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 1: I had really thought about before because here you get

941
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: a you get a window broken, you head down to ace,

942
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: you get a new window if if it's too big

943
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: of a window project called called window people, and it sucks,

944
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: but you get a new window put in, or you

945
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: do it my friend Stitt in college and use saran wrap.

946
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: Well that's what they're doing in Ukraine. This is really

947
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: the only thing to do, right, So it's saran wrap, cardboard, plywood,

948
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 1: which it would be one thing in some winter conditions

949
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: to have a blackout combined with just saran wrap and

950
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: cardboard through a Ukrainian winter is going to put tens

951
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: of millions of people in who are just civilians, not

952
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 1: involved in this, you know, didn't sign up for this

953
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: war and just excruciating conditions. Yeah, and in the preparation

954
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: for blackouts. Yeah. Again, Ezrae was just saying, we're going

955
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,920
Speaker 1: into mid October into November thirty percent. That's a pretty

956
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 1: incredible number. So just is there anything you think that

957
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 1: people should be watching with these exercises? Is there anything

958
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: to pay attention to particularly with them? No, I think

959
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 1: you'll get a five You'll get a five minute warning

960
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: that you're about to die. It happens, So I don't

961
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: I don't think you just think about how you're going

962
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: to spend that last five minutes. I guess from the

963
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: time you get the alert. I was wondering who's the

964
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,239
Speaker 1: person that sends the alert because they're probably dying too,

965
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: like because they're probably a New York or do you

966
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: see do they actually send the alert? Are they like,

967
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: you know what, somebody else can do this? I quit,

968
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,239
Speaker 1: I'm going out of the street and in the sky,

969
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,239
Speaker 1: or I'm going to the basement, or did I bring

970
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: my iodine pills and there you go just just go

971
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,000
Speaker 1: out like this with the last five minutes. So no,

972
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I expect that these two sides are going

973
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 1: to are going to coordinate this and you know, hopefully

974
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: what we're seeing from Russia at this point is kind

975
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: of a last gasp to get the best leverage that

976
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 1: they can from the negotiations that they're that they're forced

977
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: into to get out of this war that has been

978
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 1: disastrous for them and disastrous for Ukraine and a disaster

979
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: for the world, because it really like the idea that

980
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: we're talking about, you know, nuclear armageddon over this when

981
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: it can, when it can be resolved, when it can,

982
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: when it can, when this can just be finished, Well

983
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 1: that's absurd, right, That's exactly it. And we continue to

984
00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 1: see the clip of the finished Prime Minister last week,

985
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 1: for example, we continue to see resistance to negotiation. And yes,

986
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: you don't want to give in to nuclear blackmail. I

987
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: think we're all on board with the idea of not

988
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: giving into nuclear blackmail. At the same time, you do

989
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: not want to get into a nuclear tit for tat

990
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: for Russia. And so that ongoing Western resistance to even

991
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: entertaining the idea of seriously meaningfully coming to the table

992
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: and trying to end this unbelievable. Somebody responded to my

993
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 1: post earlier said, so, you know, if we came into

994
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: your apartment and we occupied, you know, two of your bedrooms,

995
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: and then and then you would just negotiate with us

996
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:02,320
Speaker 1: at that point like do you have nuclear weapon? Yeah? Yeah, actually,

997
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: you know at that point, I probably am like ready

998
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 1: for some talks. You just just crashed your way into

999
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 1: my apartment. Yeah, okay, let's let's figure it a way

1000
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,759
Speaker 1: out of this. Yes, it's the post Cold war hubris

1001
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: is like stems from this idea that we really thought

1002
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 1: we we won the like forever, the idea of nuclear

1003
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 1: tip for tat, like this is how it's going to go.

1004
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, Russia was completely building up in stockpile and

1005
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: that's where we are right now. But it's just so heboristic,

1006
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 1: I think to expect that you can bluster your way

1007
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: out of that when people on a daily basis are

1008
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: put in harm's way or targeted by boat and it's

1009
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: Putin's fault, there's no question about it. That's why you

1010
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 1: go to the negotiating table and you know, try to

1011
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: find an end to the suffering. And I do think

1012
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: it's fair for people to say, like, look, okay, you

1013
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,439
Speaker 1: should not be able to kind of wage a conventional war,

1014
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 1: invade another country and then use you know, nuclear saber

1015
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: rattling to get to hold on to that territory. You

1016
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,799
Speaker 1: should not be able to do that. And Putin is

1017
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: not doing it cost free, Like there has been an

1018
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: enormous amount of costs that he's been and I think

1019
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: that's what there can be more need to remember, and

1020
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: there will be more like the you know, Russian power

1021
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: will be a shell of what it was before he

1022
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: launched this. Even if even if he left the war

1023
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: with every single inch that he current that his troops

1024
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 1: currently hold, that they would still be so dramatically weakened

1025
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: that it would be a cautionary tale to other countries

1026
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: who are thinking about doing something like that. And he's

1027
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: not gonna he's not going to hold onto every inch

1028
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 1: that he has. He's you know, he's losing, he's losing

1029
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: ground by the day, even as you know, he resorts

1030
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 1: to just bombing power centers,