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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barria, Ohio. This is Cleveland Brown Staley brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bet coming soon to Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: A lot's you live on a Monday. A dish of

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Speaker 2: the program, Bo and Gibbe here for the next couple

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Speaker 2: of hours.

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Speaker 3: How about this, I think we're streaming FYI.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, very good, welcome, good to see you.

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Speaker 2: All right, we're gonna have a we putting a camera there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: bencham down the road right now. We're just here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think you got a solo shot right here on Gibbe, awful,

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Speaker 2: I just keep it locked in right there. We have

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Speaker 2: a new table, boy, we do. We got a table.

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Speaker 2: So that's exciting, making baby steps. This is a hell

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Speaker 2: of a sentence for me to read out of the top. Here, Gibe,

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Speaker 2: welcome back. The coaches and staff are back, and the

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty three season is here. This is the soonest

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Speaker 2: we've ever started. It's very franchised. Right, We've never started

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Speaker 2: this early. Even we played in the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 2: game before. You were not starting the third week of

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Speaker 2: little bit, so we've never started this early. You are

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Speaker 2: so far away from a game, but still like it's forever.

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Speaker 2: You're almost two months from a game that matters, it

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Speaker 2: really matters. That's a long ways out, and yet here

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Speaker 2: you are, in part because of the great Hoff going in, well,

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Speaker 2: entirely because of the great Hoff goal.

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Speaker 3: It's his fault.

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Speaker 2: It's his fault. So because he's going into Canton, we're

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Speaker 2: starting really early. So it's just to wrap your head

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Speaker 2: on this kid's Quarterbacks and rookies are Wednesday this week.

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Speaker 2: Veterans are Friday training. Can't practice Number one is Saturday.

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Speaker 2: That's at the Greenbrier. So that's this Saturday. This whole

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Speaker 2: operation will be there because you're leaving Friday.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, and Yellowstone and I pull out on Friday, convoy.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: What could go wrong?

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Speaker 2: Nothing?

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Speaker 2: Did you guys get the ride that you wanted?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: No, tomorrow, okay.

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Speaker 2: What do you gotta You get a little get some

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Speaker 2: a ram crew cab there Stones, no, none of that.

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Speaker 2: Get yourself a trailer. Get you get himself a trailer.

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Speaker 2: You don't get a little sleeper trailer that would work.

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Speaker 2: Little sleeper trailer, pull the behind the ram, pulls at

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Speaker 2: the duly ram.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a win. That's very much a win.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's here. It's crazy. I have I almost

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Speaker 2: am running two parallel thought processes. Like on one line

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Speaker 2: is the notion that Whensay Toshaan Watson will be here

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Speaker 2: and it's go time. I can tell you QB one's

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Speaker 2: here today. There you go, yes to report Wednesday. So

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Speaker 2: like I don't want to fast forward summer too much

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Speaker 2: because we are a long ways from football that matters.

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Speaker 2: Summer is essentially for our intents and purposes over but

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Speaker 2: of an This isn't a weird week, it's all real.

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Speaker 2: It got real in a hurry, but we're a long

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's there was a reason why we had Friday off. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And it's not to say that things won't be enjoyable

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Speaker 2: It'll be You're locked in and it's yeah, you know,

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Speaker 2: It's the best roster. Somebody asked me this. Actually, my

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Speaker 2: You just need to have everyone play to their talent

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's We've talked about it at nauseum, top to bottom.

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Speaker 3: Best roster it is. There's no question in the eleven

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I never was that. No, there wasn't. I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think that's the case. And it comes down

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Speaker 2: I think it's in the brochure. Yeah, if you're if

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Speaker 2: And that's the one when I say, like, we don't

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Speaker 2: you'll know if you've got something or not. You've been

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Speaker 2: part of those joint practices before. If you've got a team,

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Speaker 2: then it shows up in those joint practices, and if

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Speaker 3: It becomes a very long week, that's for sure. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like in terms of like real pads. Isn't it

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Speaker 3: Paying right there might be too bad, there might be

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Speaker 2: I think so there's not enough time hardly to fail

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Speaker 2: they were just here another yeah, coming back. I also think,

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Speaker 2: to say when I did the interview at the undisclosed location,

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Speaker 2: guessing that's why he did it, and I think that's

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Speaker 3: And I would also say this for the fans. You know,

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Speaker 3: I know training camp tickets are now available. The practices

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Speaker 3: which is better because then you're really going to see

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Speaker 3: won't be there won't be any ramp up. At that point.

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Speaker 3: like in Philly the Philly week last week last year,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're probably right. I mean, you're you you

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Speaker 2: that what they've opened up will be entertaining for our fans.

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Speaker 2: What did you what were you into this weekend? You

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Speaker 2: it was all kind of secondary sports stuff. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the baseball went bad, but but other than that, the uh,

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Speaker 3: I you know what, I was not near a TV

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Speaker 3: a hall pass Friday, all right, And what I mean

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Speaker 3: by that is I was invited to play the prestigious

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Speaker 3: Kataba In club on Friday. See, I see I played.

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Speaker 2: I see that's tight.

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Speaker 3: Huh boy is it? Boy? There were a couple holes

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's tight. It's really tight. But those greens

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Speaker 3: This course was unbelievable. Yeah, I mean it was part

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Willi's just looked like, quite frankly what he was

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Speaker 2: But like Diehard holds up, like all of it.

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Speaker 3: Works, They're still terrorists in the world.

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Speaker 2: They're still there's nothing that would be really changed too

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Speaker 3: It was great.

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Speaker 2: The choices were. It came down to either that or

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Speaker 2: Diehard is I was proud of him, Like he chuckled

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Speaker 3: Reeves right in the middle, yeah, and the Hoff at

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Speaker 3: the end space those three out. Would you agree with that? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think you. I mean, I mean, I just think,

435
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Speaker 2: like if you're putting together a show, yeah, you're right,

436
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Speaker 2: Like you got to start strong and you got to

437
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Speaker 2: finish strong, and you need a lifter in the middle.

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Speaker 2: So that's that's probably how that's going to go. Now,

439
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Speaker 2: some of these people are deceased, so I don't know

440
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Speaker 2: how that goes. So, I mean, I know we'll be there,

441
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Speaker 2: but I have no Like when's the last time you

442
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Speaker 2: watched a Hall of Fame thing from start to finish?

443
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Speaker 2: I don't even know, like the order of.

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Speaker 3: Events, I don't I don't know how.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like if it's someone who's going in posthumously,

446
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Speaker 2: like do they get.

447
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Speaker 3: Like Dan presenting Don Corriel. I know that, why is

448
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Speaker 3: my computer frozen? Right?

449
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Speaker 2: But don Coriel is not with us anymore, right, I

450
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Speaker 2: don't believe so. So then like as a relative, you

451
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Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like I don't know how that

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Speaker 2: all works.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and isn't uh Cleco's alive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, don Krail's been dead since twenty ten. So

455
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Speaker 2: so somebody's going to I don't know if like somebody

456
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Speaker 2: speaks on his behalf or or how that goes. So,

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Speaker 2: but the Hoff going last, that is appropriate. So that

458
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Speaker 2: feels like a it's about it's like a noon to

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Speaker 2: four situation. To me, I have a hard time believing

460
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Speaker 2: it's not noon to four. But we'll see awful crush

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Speaker 2: his he'll he'll kill it and it's smart for him

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Speaker 2: to be last. Yeah, that'll uh There'll be a billion

463
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Speaker 2: Browns fans down there, so they'll that that's a very

464
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Speaker 2: that's a smart place for him to be on that

465
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Speaker 2: side of things. We also had our social media team.

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Speaker 2: Looks like we had a little bit of a little

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Speaker 2: bit of a score situation.

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Speaker 3: I feel like something's coming down tomorrow.

469
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Speaker 2: Feels directly, I think it says so. In fact, Yeah,

470
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Speaker 2: we talked about we talked about this. If you attention,

471
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Speaker 2: scores have been available on this for quite a while.

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Speaker 2: I want to say we would add JW one and

473
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Speaker 2: he gave a little scores in like February on this.

474
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Speaker 2: So look forward to that. Look forward to seeing how

475
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Speaker 2: it gets presented in the total package of the uniform.

476
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Speaker 2: I think all of that will be very cool. The

477
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Speaker 2: I saw this as well, that there are apparently eight

478
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Speaker 2: NFL uniform unveils in the next two weeks. My buddy

479
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Speaker 2: Andrew lind who does a lot of stuff with the

480
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Speaker 2: with the Nike, he's got a Nike connect so he knows, like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I guess there's eight NFL uniform unveils in the next

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Speaker 2: two weeks.

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Speaker 3: Well, everybody's back, right, But like, we've.

484
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Speaker 2: Already had Bucks, Seahawks, there's already been several yeah, Lions,

485
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Speaker 2: we've already had all of those. So the fact that

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Speaker 2: along with ours, there's seven more that are going to

487
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Speaker 2: be unveiled here in the next.

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Speaker 3: Hey, look, it's it's an opportunity to sell more merchant

489
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Speaker 3: the team shop and.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think you know for ours, it's something

491
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Speaker 2: that you know, one of the things that people talk about,

492
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Speaker 2: like what what can you do. What else could you

493
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Speaker 2: could What are alternatives that you could have done with

494
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Speaker 2: this brand? It's such an iconic brand, but it's a

495
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Speaker 2: very specific brand, and so what else could you do

496
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Speaker 2: with it? So I'm curious to see how that looks,

497
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Speaker 2: because that if what happens, what I believe to be happening,

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Speaker 2: if if, whatever that is, I I look forward to

499
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Speaker 2: seeing how because that's always been something I've theorized. Yeah,

500
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Speaker 2: how does it go with everything else? How would that

501
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Speaker 2: look right?

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Speaker 3: How does that go with everything? Like?

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Speaker 2: It looks great at Texas? How does it look How

504
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Speaker 2: does it look for us? So that that will be cool?

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Speaker 2: So that do we know what time tomorrow? Does stones

506
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Speaker 2: know what time? No? Nothing, He's not there yet, He's

507
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Speaker 2: not he's not ready. He's getting there. He's getting the

508
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Speaker 2: mindset right. He's getting the mindset right. That's good. Hey,

509
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Speaker 2: I got ah. He'd also be happy to know I

510
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Speaker 2: received something from the operation via the mail today, So

511
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: keeping up connections there, my friends. So we'll see what

512
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Speaker 2: I can do on that front. But that's where you are, kids.

513
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Speaker 2: The headline is this coach and staff back Gibbe saying

514
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Speaker 2: that Watson is in the building. So you have that officially,

515
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Speaker 2: they will be here on Wednesday, Veterans Friday, and we'll

516
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Speaker 2: do training camp Saturday.

517
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Speaker 3: So Saturday, team gets together, team flies to West Virginia.

518
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Speaker 3: Team will have a couple hours to get settled and

519
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Speaker 3: we'll hit the field in the afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for them, it's nothing. I mean, you fly down there.

521
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Speaker 3: Nothing, but again it's it's the first practice. It's a

522
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Speaker 3: little bit more acclimation, a little lighter workout that day.

523
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Speaker 3: So we shall see.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think it's gonna be really I

525
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Speaker 2: think coach is gonna get what he wants out of

526
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Speaker 2: that trip, you know. I mean, I think he's gonna

527
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Speaker 2: get the isolation the place. The place is very isolated.

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Speaker 2: It's tough to get to. There's not a straight line,

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Speaker 2: you know. I looked at the NAB. There's two ways

530
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Speaker 2: you can go. Are you going through Charleston, West Virginia probably?

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Speaker 2: You know we did that on the way down. Is

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Speaker 2: the well the problem with us was it was it

533
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Speaker 2: basically rained cats and dogs for the from West Virginia

534
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Speaker 2: to the Greenbrier Rain the whole time, and so like

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Speaker 2: those roads were just harrowing. And then on the way

536
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Speaker 2: back we went through and it's actually a little further.

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Speaker 2: But we went through why am I blank in the

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Speaker 2: city Morgantown. We went that way in Little wu Yeah,

539
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Speaker 2: I'd never been there. I wanted show it's a great

540
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Speaker 2: town right on the hill. So I had never been

541
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Speaker 2: there and I wanted to take the boys, so we

542
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Speaker 2: went that way. I found that drive. Even though it

543
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Speaker 2: was longer, it felt easier to me.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but we also did have rain supposed to rain Friday. Yeah,

545
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Speaker 3: it's hair for a long day.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough because there's no there's there's no edge,

547
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Speaker 2: there's no headline. You're just white knuckle great. Please don't

548
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Speaker 2: get a flat tire. People going to a thousand miles

549
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Speaker 2: an hour. That's the way that that works. But the

550
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Speaker 2: resort's nice, but it's remote for sure.

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Speaker 3: That's fine.

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00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we're off and running. We'll get around

553
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,719
Speaker 2: the NFL coming up on the program, including a restructure

554
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,479
Speaker 2: that I think you probably ought to be paying attention

555
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: to free agent signing as well. We have the NFL's

556
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 2: top ten tight ends to get to. AP will join

557
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 2: us in the two o'clock hour of the program go

558
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 2: through some free agency stuff plus the top ten non

559
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 2: quarterback franchise building blocks from Bucky Brooks. So we have

560
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Speaker 2: all of those things to look forward to, which are nice.

561
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Speaker 2: We're often running Clevelandrod's Daily at fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by Bally Bett coming

563
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Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Hi, welcome back. He to clean the Browns Daily as

565
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Speaker 2: we go around the NFL. This, I think this is

566
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 2: a there's a little thing that's interesting here. On the

567
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Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins deal, there's a lot that's insering to it.

568
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 2: But on the deal with the Titans, two years twenty six.

569
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Speaker 2: So the big number that that was important, I think

570
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Speaker 2: was the fifteen from Odell. So Hopkins gets twelve with

571
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Speaker 2: an ability to earn up to fifteen. So he the

572
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Speaker 2: Odell deal made Hopkins's deal more complicated for everybody else

573
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Speaker 2: who thought they were going to get him at a discount. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he had stated that he was, you know, go chase

575
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Speaker 2: Super Bowls time and instead. I think the other lesson

576
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Speaker 2: here is that money's nice even if you have a

577
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Speaker 2: lot out of it. And so this was the biggest

578
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 2: number that was ever going to be offered. Nobody else

579
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: was in the vicinity of two years twenty six. We

580
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 2: weren't in the vicinity of that. Kansas City wasn't, Buffalo wasn't,

581
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: which is probably why everybody kind of punted early. I

582
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 2: think we kind of hung around and said, Hey, if

583
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: if this doesn't all work out, we're here. We'll happily

584
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 2: take you on. But you love the receiver room that

585
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: you have here anyway, and that number was never going

586
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Speaker 2: to be You're never going to be anywhere near that

587
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: number for them. I don't know what Tennessee is. I

588
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: don't know what they're trying to be.

589
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 3: Who's throwing him the ball?

590
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 2: Tannehill's still there. Quarterbacks in the last two drafts, they

591
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 2: have Malik Willis and they have will Levis.

592
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Speaker 3: Yeah, what's Tannehill's health going into this? And I think

593
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 3: we can all agree that Tannehill's on the backside of.

594
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Speaker 2: His career, oh for sure.

595
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So what I don't know. This goes back to

596
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: you never should have gotten rid of AJ Brown. Now

597
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 3: now you're trying to make up for it. I feel

598
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: like by going to get Hopkins or get.

599
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Speaker 2: Rid of AJ Brown, don't sign Hopkins, trade Derrick Henry,

600
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Speaker 2: get rid of Ryan Tannehill, yeah, like they. But I mean,

601
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Speaker 2: I know Mike a little bit, just from the time

602
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: when I was down in Columbus and around when he

603
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Speaker 2: was in Columbus.

604
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Speaker 3: And.

605
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 2: He's not tear it down to this.

606
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: We're not ever going to raze the white flag.

607
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: No, it's not. He's always going to put his best,

608
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 2: the best possible team forward. And I think probably the

609
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 2: trading of AJ Brown led to the general manager change

610
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:32,479
Speaker 2: which happens down there. Ran Carthurn the GM. Now, so

611
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: I think his I think that's just in his DNA.

612
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: But to me, they're at best nine and eight, at

613
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Speaker 2: worst six and eleven.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you could win games maybe the Division seven.

615
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, their division's bad.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I mean as much as we talk about

617
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Speaker 3: Jacksonville being good, we got to see it. Yeah, and

618
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Speaker 3: you got a Indianapolis five hundred maybe yeah best. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean this is gonna suck. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they could they could go. You know, they could

621
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Speaker 2: go what would that be like five and one in

622
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Speaker 2: the Division, four and two in the division and then

623
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Speaker 2: you know you're talking about a ten win team, but

624
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Speaker 2: you're not a team of consequence in the AFC.

625
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Speaker 3: That's a big game for us in Week three by

626
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Speaker 3: the way not and I'm not.

627
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: It's gonna sound like it's gonna sound like broken record,

628
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 2: But the first four games will tell us just like

629
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Speaker 2: last year.

630
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean you're playing AFC teams, you're talking

631
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 3: tie breakers. Oh yeah, I mean, and that that Jets

632
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 3: lost last year hurt in so many more ways than

633
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 3: just the basic outcome.

634
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Speaker 2: I think I think the two most the two most

635
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: jarring results last year were the Jets loss and the

636
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: Patriots loss. Both here, you got to win those, those

637
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: were had to. I mean, you had the Jets on

638
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: the rope. I know that people would point to the

639
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: to the Chargers two, but they were probably a better

640
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 2: team than us. We were better than the Jets. We

641
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Speaker 2: beat the Jets. We blew it in the last two minutes.

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Speaker 2: And then I think New England was when you said, Okay,

643
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,479
Speaker 2: you're not going to play for anything this year just

644
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna be in the cards if that display that

645
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: you got here against New England. So that's when you

646
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 2: look ahead to this year's schedule and you talk about

647
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: those first four. I mean, holy cow, the first five

648
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 2: is brutal. It's just to refresh for folks, Bengals here

649
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 2: to open at Pittsburgh Titans here, Ravens here, forty nine

650
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 2: ers here.

651
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so no pressure, it eases.

652
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: Up a little. And that you're at Colts, then you're

653
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: at Seattle Cardinals here. I mean, it's a brutal. It's tough.

654
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: It's very tough. The AFC's brutal. And the fact that

655
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 2: you got the Niners in that first five weeks as well.

656
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 3: As oh now you got Hopkins back in the AFC.

657
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,239
Speaker 3: Still a guy. The Madden top ten wide receivers are

658
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: right Justin Jefferson with a ninety nine joins the ninety

659
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 3: nine club, Okay, Tyreek Hill with a ninety eight. Number two,

660
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: DeVante Adams number three, Stefan Diggs number four, Cooper Cup

661
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 3: number five, Jamar Chase at six. DeAndre Hopkins is number

662
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 3: seven too high for him. I agree, Chase needs to

663
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 3: be swapped with Digs. Yes, McLaurin number eight with a

664
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Speaker 3: ninety two rating. Aj Brown number nine with a ninety one.

665
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 3: This literally just came out and at number ten our

666
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 3: own Amari Cooper at ninety one. Okay, but you don't

667
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: have Jets wide receiver like how many Garrett Wilson. Yet,

668
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: you don't have Garrett Wilson.

669
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Speaker 2: I think he'll I wonder if he'll play his way

670
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: up to I think he's gonna have a monster year

671
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 2: he could play his way up.

672
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of guys that aren't on that list.

673
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: Well, it's probably as deep and as talented as the

674
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: receiver position has ever been in our lifetime, for sure,

675
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 2: I do. I wish they would do one player at

676
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 2: every positions in ninety nine.

677
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: I think it'd be nice.

678
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 2: And then that's it, Like nobody gets you can't have

679
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: three ninety nine receivers like one defensive ends. He can't

680
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: do that. Just one guy's in ninety nine.

681
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 3: So there's only one? Why not?

682
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jeff instead, I like that, So they have three

683
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 2: dns is like I think somej and probably Nick Bosa

684
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 2: would probably all be ninety nine's. Yeah, I'm not a

685
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 2: fan of just pick one go that way with it.

686
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:26,919
Speaker 2: But that's a good spot for Amar. That's about where

687
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: I think it's way too high for Hopkins. He's not

688
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 2: that type of player.

689
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: Anymore, not anymore.

690
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 2: So that would have Hopkins at what like a ninety

691
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: three Yeah, okay, yeah, that seems too high for me

692
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 2: to have him at a ninety three, Evan Ingram gets

693
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: an extension worth an extra fifteen million. So you have

694
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 2: that this is the one that I wanted to get

695
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: to though, so Joe Mixon, Joe Mixon and the Bengals

696
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 2: kind of did a we'd like to stay together, but

697
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 2: with a different arrangement, and Mixing's like, yeah, I'm in

698
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 2: he's taken less willingly. Yeah, he took less. I think

699
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: if you look at the running market now, like Dalvin

700
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: Cook is currently not on a team, right Zeke Kareem,

701
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 2: like a lot of these guys have yet to find

702
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 2: places to play. And so I think for Mixing, it's like,

703
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 2: I like this situation. I like this franchise. I'm gonna

704
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: hang out here for a couple of years. I'll give

705
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 2: him a discount to be able to do it. And

706
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: it's just the reality of the position.

707
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: Well, and if your Cincinnati smart move, you have all

708
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,320
Speaker 3: the power because if he doesn't agree to it, huh,

709
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: we're cutting you. We're gonna go sign one of the

710
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 3: other big names.

711
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Yeah, they have all the leverage.

712
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: He was smart enough to see it. I'm curious because

713
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 2: next year we'll be in a situation with Nick where

714
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 2: we got to figure out. You know, he wants to

715
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 2: be here, they want him here, but there's there's a

716
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: math number. There's some math that has to work. So

717
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 2: we'll see where all that goes. So I took note

718
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: of the mixing restructure. I thought that was pretty interest.

719
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: Well and does that lead to something like how much

720
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 3: of that was QB one in Cincinnati getting in Joe

721
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: Mixon's ear and saying, hey, like we want to keep

722
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: the whole band together.

723
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: I was talking to somebody from down there last week,

724
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 2: I think on Friday, and a pretty in depth conversation,

725
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 2: and what the way he explained it to me was

726
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 2: that Burrow his hands are all over all of it,

727
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: his fingerprints are all over all of it. It's over mixing,

728
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 2: it's over Chase, it's over Higgins. His own deal, like

729
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 2: he wants all of the band to be together, so

730
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: and he has the power to do it because if

731
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: he takes less.

732
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 3: Then yeah, you can do it. Yep.

733
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: Brady did this. Brady always took the Mannings, never took less.

734
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 2: Brady's took less to be able to make sure the

735
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: team around was good. So so that that was a

736
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 2: big one though. I took I took note of that

737
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 2: restructure with Mixing because a lot of people thought he'd

738
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 2: be cut down there and then eventually he'll end up

739
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: sticking around. Okay, So Johnny Football is coming August eighth

740
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: to Netflix. Untold Johnny Football, a documentary on the one

741
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 2: and only Johnny Manziel buckle up. I think they should

742
00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 2: have waited a decade for that.

743
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 3: Is he out of money?

744
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: Probably think how does he have family money?

745
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: Yeah?

746
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: I just think like you need a little more time

747
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: if you think about, like even like the Manti Teo

748
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: doc or you know, some of the great thirty for

749
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: thirties that have been done. You want to kind of

750
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 2: forget about something before bringing it back.

751
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 3: It's still pretty fresh.

752
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: It's pretty fresh. I suppose it's almost ten years though,

753
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: isn't It wasn't he was he thirteen fourteen fourteen, I believe. Yeah,

754
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: he won the Heisman in thirteen. That's what's in my

755
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:43,480
Speaker 2: head anyway.

756
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,759
Speaker 3: But I mean he's thirty years old.

757
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: Well, he just played the two years.

758
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 3: Of twenty fourteen draft, so.

759
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 2: He's won the Heisman and actually won the Heisman in twelve, Yeah,

760
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: because it was his red shirt fresh and where he

761
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 2: won it and then the thirteen season he didn't and

762
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 2: then he went pro. So it's twenty fourteen draft. And

763
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: the other thing I think with Johnny is so much

764
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: of it we know, I mean for us especially, like

765
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 2: what is there not to know? Well, there's a tremendous

766
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 2: Right Thompson piece in ESPN, the magazine from going into

767
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 2: his second year at A and M that if you

768
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,720
Speaker 2: would have read that, if you read that, you'd be like, Wow,

769
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 2: this kid, from a maturity standpoint, has light years to go.

770
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 2: And that was that was the year before his last

771
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: year at A and M. And then it's all but

772
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: we documented so much of it, you know, like he

773
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: did himself. Yeah, he was all over. I mean social

774
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 2: media was in full form at that point. So yeah,

775
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 2: I don't know.

776
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 3: I don't relive going to Vegas. We already know that.

777
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 2: Everybody done it, so I to me, it feels like

778
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 2: they needed to just wait a decade do it, like

779
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 2: twenty thirty to where there's And then also maybe he

780
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 2: would have a chance at age, you know, approaching forty,

781
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: to have a different perspective on it all, because I

782
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 2: don't know that his perspectives changed at all. Correct anytime

783
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: you hear him talk. It feels like that there's no

784
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: real difference to what he is now to what he was.

785
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think there's a whole lot of remorse

786
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 3: for how things went.

787
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure that there will be some

788
00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: remorse in his career. You can't tell me that's how

789
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: you wanted your career to play out, But no, I don't.

790
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: To me, it just seems a little bit a little

791
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 2: bit too soon. Yeah, for the Johnny Dock give it

792
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 2: a you know, even like I mean, the best ones

793
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 2: on college football, most of them were stuff that happened

794
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 2: in the eighties, and then they came out those docs

795
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 2: came out in the two thousands. That's usually the window

796
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: you want about twenty years incident point, you know, get

797
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 2: it out to twenty thirty. Then all of a sudden,

798
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: there will be a generation of people who have no

799
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 2: idea who Johnny football is. Right now, I still think

800
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: too many and too many people probably have a negative

801
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 2: connotation with him. Yeah as well.

802
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 3: By the way, tickets to the Jet first four open

803
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 3: training camp practices sold out this morning in three minutes,

804
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 3: per Adam Schefter.

805
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't surprise me.

806
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: Five more practices will be made available in the coming days,

807
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: and they're gonna be on Hard Knocks.

808
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna get By the way, so does Hard

809
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 2: Knocks get an extra week of shows because of that?

810
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 2: I would think so. Normally Hard Knocks has four episodes.

811
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 2: I wonder if they're gonna do five because the Hall

812
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: of Fame.

813
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: It'd be great, that would be great. I'd be fine

814
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 3: with that.

815
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 2: Well, I'm curious. Yeah, I like to see our their

816
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: interaction with us and what all that's about. Rogers beat

817
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 2: your boy Romo in Tahoe.

818
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Speaker 3: Do we know how miz did.

819
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Speaker 2: I couldn't find this leaderboard for this thing anywhere. I

820
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Speaker 2: could not find it. We'll get you an update on that.

821
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Speaker 2: I'll also give you the top ten tight ends according

822
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Speaker 2: to ESPN's Jeremy Fowler and executives and scouts. We will

823
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Speaker 2: ten quarterback or tight ends rather based on coaches, executives

832
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Speaker 2: and Scouted's scouts votes. Last week has been doing this guessing.

833
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Speaker 2: I wrote down the first ten that came to mind.

834
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Speaker 3: That's fine. I thought I thought we were going to

835
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,240
Speaker 3: team up. But it's good if you have your.

836
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: Ten or and I just picked I get ten. Let's

837
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 2: you know. I'll do the best I can.

838
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: I like it. Kelsey fine, Kelsey's number one, Kittle number two,

839
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 3: Andrews number three, Hackinson t J. Hockinson number six. You're

840
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 3: four for four so far. We're off rushing it.

841
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: Goddard, Dallas, Goddard number four. All right, let's go Friarmouth.

842
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 3: Uh oh, God number nine, come undefeated.

843
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: Evan Ingram number eight. It's pretty ridiculous. This is going

844
00:42:53,120 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: well Hunter Henry.

845
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 3: Oh, No, hold on, thank you? Mind boit. I don't

846
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 3: even honorable mention? First miss? What are you six for seven? Six?

847
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:16,280
Speaker 3: Or seven?

848
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah?

849
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 3: Ever Chargers, No, Now, I don't hold on others receiving votes.

850
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 2: Sad Chief.

851
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: Chief was honorable mention.

852
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 2: Oh my god, out of ten, sad at best six

853
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: of my first seven, I missed five. Waller is Waller

854
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 2: still on the list even though he had a down year. Uh, let's.

855
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 3: I don't believe. So he's off number five.

856
00:43:56,480 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 2: Oh okay, you're good. So five, I got seven at ten,

857
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: the girl has been getting eight. Maybe the vicinity of it.

858
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: You're right there, I'm right there, all right? So what

859
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 2: did I miss? I miss seven? So I got one

860
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 2: through six, I miss seven and ten? Who was seven?

861
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 2: Can I interest you Ela Fant?

862
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 3: Can I interest you in Kyle Pitts at number seven?

863
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: Our guys better than that.

864
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Speaker 2: Pitts is seven. Yeah, I'm gonna be honest with you.

865
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 2: It's not like I was tracking like his season last year.

866
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: Oh he was a thout. No, he's a thousand yards

867
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 2: in twenty one. So last year he was three fifty

868
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 2: six on just twenty eight catches. I'm sure he got hurt.

869
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: So he played ten games. Now let me see. Yeah,

870
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 2: he played ten games. Three hundred and fifty six yards

871
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 2: and ten games. I don't know that feels that feels

872
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 2: at erroneous. So they had him seven and who they

873
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: have ten?

874
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 3: Ten from radio? Turned that down a little bit. Buddy,

875
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: there you go. You got it, young Jordan, there you go. No, no, no,

876
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 3: that's I told the guys today. I told I told

877
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: the law firm of Jake and Jake, the two Jakes,

878
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 3: We're going, that's what we're doing. I told the law firm.

879
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 3: They're like, are we gonna do all this? We're gonna

880
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 3: do the last year. I go, We're doing it all

881
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: and if if if we gotta, if we've gotta tweak it,

882
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: we'll tweak it.

883
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all right, I swim, You're fine. Who was ten?

884
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 2: Who the hell did I miss at?

885
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 3: Ten? Uh? Dawson Knocks of the Buffalo.

886
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: Bills, all right, some knocks and pits.

887
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:54,240
Speaker 3: Honorable mentions were Dalton Schultz of the Texans, Nadjoku, Noah Fant, Tyler,

888
00:45:54,360 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 3: Higbee Hunter, Henry cole kmet your others receiving votes, Mike Jisicki,

889
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,759
Speaker 3: Gerald Everett, zach Ertz, Logan zach Ertz is in there

890
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 3: strictly is a name I feel I Logan, Thomas Juwan Johnson,

891
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:13,240
Speaker 3: and Josh Oliver.

892
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think Pitts is too high I mean, I'm

893
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,400
Speaker 2: sure potentially he'll be I guess he would still have

894
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 2: a ton of value though people think that he can

895
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 2: be great. I think the Chiefs should have been in

896
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 2: the ten. Yes, he's better than Pitts certainly is more

897
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: valuable right now? Better right now?

898
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 3: Well, I mean just look at last year between the two.

899
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:39,120
Speaker 3: I mean, Pitts miss seven games, just twenty eight catches,

900
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 3: Like Pitts is going to be fine, but Chiefs better.

901
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:45,920
Speaker 3: I agree.

902
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think chief should have been a

903
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 2: top ten guys.

904
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,840
Speaker 3: And it will continue to astound me that the Detroit

905
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 3: Lions traded t J. Hawkinson to the Minnesota Like.

906
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 2: It's one of the craziest things ever. I think if

907
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: I think we looked into that once and wasn't it

908
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: a money thing? Like they couldn't afford. They've run up

909
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,800
Speaker 2: against it from a money standpoint, so they punted on

910
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: him to get the assets back. But why in division?

911
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 2: It feels like he would be exactly what they would want.

912
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 2: Didn't they just draft a tight end?

913
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, especially with US's face being suspended for six games. Yeah, James,

914
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 3: I think you'd like that guy on your team.

915
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's interesting what's happened with the tight end position.

916
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 2: I suppose this is the Gronk Kelsey impact, where this position,

917
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: it feels like, has never been more valuable than it

918
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 2: is right now.

919
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 3: Uh. Well, here's what they said about the chief rare

920
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 3: blend of speed, power and strength, and NFC offensive coach said,

921
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 3: a lot of upside. Has never quite put it all together,

922
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 3: but every offense would love a guy like that. He's

923
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 3: perfect for what Cleveland does. I think you put it

924
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 3: together last year pretty nicely.

925
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's with you know, inconsistent quarterback play. I mean,

926
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 2: I think he could be I think a star this year.

927
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 2: I mean he's had that potential in him the whole way,

928
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 2: and I just think, like, you get consistent system and

929
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 2: we're going to throw it a lot. I think I

930
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:12,760
Speaker 2: think Deshaun's.

931
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: Gonna like him and with our wide receiver crew, he's

932
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 3: going to be able to get open underneath.

933
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 2: So he was six twenty eight in fourteen last year,

934
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 2: ten point eight per four touchdowns, forty fifty eight receptions. Man, Yeah, yeah,

935
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 2: I think that. I think that number goes up about seven.

936
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: I could see him around sixty some low sixties. And

937
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 2: I think the receiving number could get upwards of closer

938
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 2: to eight. So I think he you know, he's in

939
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 2: many instance he can be our deep vertical threat down

940
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,879
Speaker 2: the scene. You know, you can put that ball high,

941
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: he goes and gets it. I think that there's an

942
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 2: avenue there for him to have quite a bit of

943
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 2: success in that spot. All right, so we get seven

944
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: out of ten.

945
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,280
Speaker 3: That's good, you did great. Yeah, held down the fort perfectly.

946
00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 2: You got to get You want to have a decent

947
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: percentage on that and to be fair tight end's tough.

948
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 2: That's tough.

949
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:08,239
Speaker 3: Especially again, Pitch didn't have a great year. Now, you

950
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,239
Speaker 3: wouldn't think of him as a top ten wide out.

951
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,479
Speaker 2: I get it from the standpoint of like if people

952
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: were betting on who's going to be great, they would

953
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 2: bet on him to be great. Yeah, But also like

954
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 2: there's a I think I think Chief should have been

955
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: on that thing. All right, Second Hour coming up next,

956
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:27,439
Speaker 2: ap will join us here in studio Cleveland Browns Aily

957
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:28,200
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958
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:42,920
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959
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960
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:47,000
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961
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,400
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962
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,680
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963
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 2: coming soon to Ohio. On eight fifty ESPN Cleveland, our

964
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 2: senior staff writer Anthony Poisl joins us in studio. When

965
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 2: are you going?

966
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 3: When are you going?

967
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: To Virginia, West Virginia.

968
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 4: We head out on the day that everybody else heads out,

969
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 4: and that is Saturday, early morning. Plane heads out early

970
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 4: in the morning and we have our first practice.

971
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 2: You're flying. I am flying. I'm on the You're not.

972
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:36,480
Speaker 2: You're not on the Gibbee pint train. Unfortunately, No, I'm

973
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: I feel like fortunately, quite honestly, it's five and a

974
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 2: half hours.

975
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 4: You'll probably say, well, it probably has its pros and cons,

976
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 4: but yeah, uh but no, I'll be flying out early

977
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 4: that morning. We'll be on a staff plane and as

978
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 4: soon as we land, it's it's go time. There's there's

979
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 4: not gonna be any time to sort of you know,

980
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 4: you throw your bags in your room and then boom,

981
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 4: there's that first practice. It's it's literally right when we

982
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 4: get the town. I think so, so that'll be a

983
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 4: pretty long day. But the first day of training camp

984
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 4: always always one of those longer days. But it's exciting,

985
00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:09,400
Speaker 4: exciting stuff.

986
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 2: Pretty cool in terms of from your perspective, because I mean,

987
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 2: you're you're you're gonna be able to give our fans everything.

988
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, because this is I mean I've been down there.

989
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 2: Have you been down there? Even to Greenberg?

990
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 4: No, actually it's you were down there.

991
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: I was down there a year ago. It's remote. Oh yeah,

992
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 2: well I.

993
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 4: Heard that what the two closest airports are commercial airports

994
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 4: at least are eighty miles away. I think that's the

995
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 4: one in Virginia, and then one hundred and twenty miles away,

996
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 4: which is the one in Charlotte.

997
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: Maybe you think Rowan Oak, Yeah, would be commercial airport.

998
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:42,439
Speaker 2: I think Rowan Oak has a commercial airport. It might

999
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 2: give me shaking his head. That seems like that's the

1000
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 2: closest one.

1001
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 3: That is the closest one. It's about an hour away.

1002
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, so that it's a hike.

1003
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 4: But that's the point.

1004
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: No, No, that's what I said. I said this in

1005
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: the first hour, like this is a long camp man,

1006
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 2: and what coach is trying to do is keep it

1007
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 2: fresh and and so this gives a little variation. You

1008
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,319
Speaker 2: get away and other teams have done it. Before. The

1009
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 2: Saints have done it, the Texans have done it. They

1010
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 2: did it for climate reasons, right, because it's hot and steamy,

1011
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: and so they go there and it's nice. The facilities

1012
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 2: down there there you'll see him. I mean, they're nice.

1013
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 2: They've rebuilt them recently just for this purpose.

1014
00:52:20,440 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 4: And I'm excited for the golf courses as well. At

1015
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 4: least they're fun courses. Yeah, well, you'll be able to

1016
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 4: play them.

1017
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,080
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys should have some time in the afternoons.

1018
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 2: They have the pro down there is a great dude

1019
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 2: and a huge Buckeye and so we we bonded over

1020
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 2: that and he was aware of my act from the

1021
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: Ohio state stuff, so he was great. They have I

1022
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 2: want to say, they have the one that the sneed,

1023
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 2: which like Zigur will be able to play. And if

1024
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 2: you guys get the the call to the bullpen, maybe

1025
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 2: you'll get to play that one. But that one's not

1026
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: even like on the immediate premises. And then they have

1027
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 2: the Old White which is the PGA stop and I

1028
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 2: think it's a live stop this year. Yeah, And then

1029
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 2: they have they have two other ones. They have the Greenbrier,

1030
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 2: which was the original one and I think it hosted

1031
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: like a Ryder Cup or something like forever Ago and

1032
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 2: Nicholas redesigned that, and then they have another course as well.

1033
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 2: So there's three nines at the main resort, and then

1034
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 2: there's the Sneed, which is like for the members who

1035
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 2: are have like the houses there.

1036
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 4: I know Gibe and I will be doing everything we

1037
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,080
Speaker 4: can to try and work a connection or do something

1038
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 4: to get on there, and I won't be on the

1039
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 4: gibbet my bile down, but I do still have him

1040
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:30,319
Speaker 4: to thank for being able to get my clubs down there,

1041
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 4: because those I.

1042
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,839
Speaker 2: Think you could play. I don't see any reason why

1043
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 2: you're not playing. You could play anywhere four o'clock and

1044
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: after you're gonna be able to walk onto any of

1045
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:40,359
Speaker 2: those and just go.

1046
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 4: There will definitely be a couple of those days where

1047
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 4: we're hustling through work.

1048
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: I doubt it. I think you'll let plenty of downtime.

1049
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,840
Speaker 2: You guys put in about one three four hours a week,

1050
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 2: give down the day three four hours a day, I

1051
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 2: mean three or four something like that. I don't know

1052
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: if you know that you see is that you see?

1053
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 3: There you go. I didn't want to be him today.

1054
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:03,759
Speaker 3: I was trying to be nice and positive. Where is

1055
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 3: he by the way, you guys golfing.

1056
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 2: Golfing, Well, this is his charity.

1057
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 3: He is on He is on a board. He is

1058
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 3: a board member. This is a this is a big

1059
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 3: day for his charity. They Cornerstone of Hope.

1060
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: It is Cornerstone of Hope.

1061
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1062
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,520
Speaker 4: I did that on on Friday, I was at the

1063
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 4: Geen Hickerson Memorial golf outing Bunker Bunker Hill. So okay,

1064
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 4: it was funn We had a little Browns group that

1065
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 4: was a scramble. Okay, I mean obviously scrab who was

1066
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 4: in that group. We had our our good friend Drew Davidson.

1067
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 4: We had u Yellowstone around here, murphover from p R

1068
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 4: and Leah from our digital department.

1069
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 3: Leah. It was pretty good golfer.

1070
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah she She had a couple of really good

1071
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 4: shots and we did not win, but we were not

1072
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 4: expecting to win. We were just there to have a

1073
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 4: good time and enjoy being able to swing a golf club.

1074
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 4: Where is this course, Bunker Hills down in Madonna.

1075
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 3: Okay, nice track, yeah, good friend Chadley runs it really nice,

1076
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 3: good good outing track. But maintain really good good course.

1077
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 4: It's challenging too. They got a few good holes.

1078
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that the these are I'm gonna give you, guys,

1079
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 2: here's my scouting report. Here's what you're gonna love. You're

1080
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 2: gonna love the golf. The golf is great. All the

1081
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: courses are really cool. The Old White's awesome. Sneat is.

1082
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: I didn't get to play it, but I went up there.

1083
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 2: It's beautiful. It's pretty tranquil. I mean, the river's running

1084
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 2: right through it, like, it's pretty cool. The golf courses

1085
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 2: are very, very cool. So that'll be a tremendous positive.

1086
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: You will like the history, yeah, for a couple of days,

1087
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 2: and then you'll be like, Okay, I get it.

1088
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 4: It's old. Yeah, I get it. In the Bruch, we'll

1089
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:40,280
Speaker 4: be walking by the same spots.

1090
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,399
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're gonna be walking by the same It's

1091
00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:45,319
Speaker 2: not as big as it seems, so you're going to

1092
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: be Yeah, you're gonna be going back and forth on

1093
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: the things a lot. So those things you'll like, You're

1094
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 2: you're gonna be tired of. I think you're to be

1095
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 2: exhausted by the food by the time you're done. Okay,

1096
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 2: Like by the time it's all said and done, you're

1097
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 2: really but you guys may be doing like cafeteria stuff too,

1098
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 2: So I don't know how or if everything's at a restaurant.

1099
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 4: I'm not sure.

1100
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 3: I don't have information. We're working through that.

1101
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 2: That's the other thing I don't like.

1102
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 4: I don't know like this week obviously having.

1103
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 2: Vouch like vouchers and like you know, because.

1104
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 3: I had heard there could be some vouchers.

1105
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's you know, there's like breakfast play, there's

1106
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 2: there's not for a full week. There's not a ton

1107
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: of variety of of where you're eating. They're good, I mean,

1108
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 2: the Jerry West Steakhouse is phenomenal. That joint that will

1109
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 2: all be just put that and then the one thing

1110
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 2: you make sure you charge this to the team, you'll

1111
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 2: be able to get a signed Jerry West bottle of

1112
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 2: wine that you can get there, so you get his

1113
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: because he has a vineyard. So then and then he

1114
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 2: signs the bottom.

1115
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 3: I was going to say, this is if there's one

1116
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 3: person that can get away with that.

1117
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 2: Eight bottles though, well.

1118
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 3: I don't know. I feel like he might make a

1119
00:56:58,480 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 3: run at it.

1120
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 2: Well, you know, how many can he how many can

1121
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 2: he get He's gonna you know, a couple perhaps, But

1122
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 2: I think that I'm going to tell you something. They

1123
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 2: do the one thing which is like you have to

1124
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,280
Speaker 2: wear a coat to go to dinner there.

1125
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 4: Skip that, Okay, I was gonna say, I don't know

1126
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 4: if we.

1127
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 2: Got the kids all suited up in coats, it's like

1128
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: took forever.

1129
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 4: I don't really want.

1130
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 3: That's not the steakhouse, is it.

1131
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 2: No, that's Jerry West Steakhouse is awesome. But then they

1132
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 2: have like the one which is like their formal dining room,

1133
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 2: and then that like they make you wear coats and

1134
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 2: ties and all this stuff and it's awful.

1135
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I was fine with it, not during

1136
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 4: training camp.

1137
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 2: Like I think some some places, you know, Augusta, you

1138
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 2: put on a green jacket like it's okay, it's fine.

1139
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 2: We're over casualized anyway as a society.

1140
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 4: You think.

1141
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: So. Yeah, you see how people dress on planes, it's outrageous.

1142
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 4: Noma, it's a plane bow always.

1143
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 3: I always wear pants on the plane.

1144
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 2: I don't even care if you wear shorts. But I

1145
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 2: don't need to see in your pajamas.

1146
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 4: Yeaheah, pajamas attle in public?

1147
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 2: Come on.

1148
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 3: My view.

1149
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: My thing is always like anytime that my whole time

1150
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 2: growing up and coming out of college, when I was

1151
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 2: in TV whatever, anytime I was in public dressed in

1152
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 2: case I ran into somebody important, you never know, because

1153
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,560
Speaker 2: you don't want to be some schmuck all shloving through

1154
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 2: an airport at all. Then there's a perspective boss, like, oh,

1155
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: I would really like to work for you.

1156
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 4: Really, Well, what about like joggers and a quarter zip

1157
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 4: or something?

1158
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: So that's but that's not that's not pajamas. Okay, you're

1159
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:27,800
Speaker 2: saying jockers. Are you talking about like the Lululemon type

1160
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 2: or are you talking about like cotton sweatpants because I

1161
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 2: can't co sign cotton sweatpants.

1162
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 4: Really either, chance, I mean not baggy sweatpants, not if

1163
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 4: you're trying to be a professional.

1164
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 3: So there even like up until about two years ago,

1165
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 3: and I don't know if it's changed now, but Delta

1166
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 3: had a dress code.

1167
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 2: There's a dress coat anymore?

1168
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 4: Brother, Yeah, yeah, you.

1169
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 2: Are animals it people bringing pillows.

1170
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's not annoying.

1171
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 2: Come on, let's live in a society. So what are

1172
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:01,439
Speaker 2: you both looking forward to here?

1173
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 3: Ah?

1174
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 4: Well, I mean the beginning of training camp is always

1175
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 4: you know, you get you get your eyes on the

1176
00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 4: quarterback again, right, Yeah. And I think there's just no

1177
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 4: hiding from the fact that everybody's excited to see if

1178
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 4: everybody who was able to see how Deshaun looked in

1179
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 4: mini camp, if he's able to pick right back up

1180
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 4: where he was in training camp. And you know, I

1181
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 4: saw him posting. H I think it was Elijah Moore

1182
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 4: who posted an Instagram video him and Deshaun working out

1183
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 4: in Miami, and I mean training camp. Yes, they're gonna

1184
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 4: be wearing pads sometimes, but still in its essence, it

1185
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 4: is a passing camp. So I'm just excited to see

1186
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 4: where the chemistry, if it picks up where it left

1187
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 4: off from Mini camp, if how things are looking between

1188
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 4: him and Elijah Moore. I think that's really If I

1189
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 4: had to highlight one super specific thing, it would be

1190
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,240
Speaker 4: that is is where's that Deshaun Watson Elijah Moore connection

1191
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 4: going to be at? Because I feel like, you know,

1192
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 4: the Amari Cooper Deshaun Watch connection is going to be great.

1193
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 4: But you know, Elijah Moore is still a relatively new

1194
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 4: receiver in this league. You know, this will be his

1195
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 4: third year and this is a new playbook for him

1196
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 4: and a new offense and a new quarterback, but by

1197
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 4: the way that things looked back in mini camp, it's

1198
01:00:02,200 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 4: going to be really really special to see those two

1199
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 4: guys together, see where they line elij Moore up in

1200
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 4: the offense. Obviously, that was probably one of the bigger

1201
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 4: pieces we were talking about back when spring practices were

1202
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:15,440
Speaker 4: going on. So just to see where everything looks on

1203
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 4: that front of the offense, that's what I think all

1204
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,760
Speaker 4: the eyes will be on. And then of course on

1205
01:00:20,800 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 4: the defensive side, once the pads do come on, it'll

1206
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 4: be really good to see how that all comes together

1207
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 4: as well. Be super interesting to see how Jim Schwartz

1208
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,720
Speaker 4: mixes and matches things, because that's that was defensively from

1209
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 4: mini camp. That was what we were talking about. Was

1210
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 4: you know, hey, we saw Zadarius Smith. He was playing

1211
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 4: inside a lot. That was something that I don't think

1212
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 4: a lot of people expected to see. And then Denzel

1213
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 4: Ward playing in the slot. Just things like that. Yeah,

1214
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:44,120
Speaker 4: you know, so it'll be hard to evaluate the defense

1215
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 4: still in a training camp setting, but you can always

1216
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 4: make something out of some of you know, the the

1217
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 4: personnel groupings that are being laid out there, and they

1218
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 4: have a lot of really exciting ones that I think

1219
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 4: they can use on both ends of the football.

1220
01:00:55,840 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 2: So there's no question that we having seen Mini Camp

1221
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 2: and having seen the way Deshaun played at Mini Camp

1222
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 2: and the way that they used Elijah Moore, that we

1223
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 2: are we are on the extreme of an excitement for

1224
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 2: him because of what we saw. And it is also

1225
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 2: fair for a fan base to go, yeah, yeah, we've

1226
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: heard this before, So I get that absolutely. I understand it.

1227
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 2: The reason when AP's talking about it, Zie and I

1228
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: have talked about it, When we had Taivis on, he

1229
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:33,520
Speaker 2: talked about it. Those of us that saw it, there's

1230
01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 2: a reason that the excitement is there, Like, this isn't

1231
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,200
Speaker 2: manufactured stuff. It's what we saw. It's the way they

1232
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 2: used him. When I had coached Tofanski on and we

1233
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 2: talked about and we had him on the day after

1234
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 2: the end of Mini Camp and I asked him about

1235
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 2: him and he coached Fancy not want to be too

1236
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 2: excited about much of anything, at least on the mike,

1237
01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 2: and which makes sense. It's the style that he likes,

1238
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 2: honest to who he is as a human. But he

1239
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 2: was excited about it. So like all of that to

1240
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 2: be said, and this is the same same thing with

1241
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 2: the Sewan None of this really matters. No, Like it's September,

1242
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 2: so like, right, he's got to go in September. We

1243
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 2: want we want to hit these check marks. Does it

1244
01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 2: look right? Is there stuff to be excited about with

1245
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 2: more most especially with Watson, But it's really not till

1246
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 2: September when you're gonna know if it went, because it's

1247
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:20,320
Speaker 2: going and.

1248
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 4: I will let this you know one question, or like

1249
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 4: you said at the beginning, there is you know, we've

1250
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,919
Speaker 4: heard this before, reasons to be excited for the team,

1251
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 4: and yeah, it hasn't always planned out that way during

1252
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 4: the actual season. But I think the thing that you

1253
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 4: can really kind of hold on to the excited year is,

1254
01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 4: you know, DeShawn he's done this before, he's brought an

1255
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,880
Speaker 4: offense together before. Yes, it's been a year and a

1256
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 4: half two years since he's been able to play consistently

1257
01:02:41,600 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 4: in this league, but he has done this before, and

1258
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 4: there's a whole lot of reasons to believe that he'll

1259
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 4: be able to do it again this year. And there

1260
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 4: wasn't anything really that you saw in mini camp during

1261
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,840
Speaker 4: those spring practices that said otherwise, and again I know

1262
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 4: it all goes back to how do they play in September? Right,

1263
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 4: But you know, he you can.

1264
01:02:58,200 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 2: Still be excited in the moment though the Browns like

1265
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: understand that the proof will come then, yeah, but you

1266
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 2: can still enjoy these moments in between.

1267
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 4: And even in Minichamp. You know, you saw during the

1268
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 4: mandatory Minichamp, you saw a progression through those three days

1269
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 4: of things. Looking back, I shouldn't say through those three

1270
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,080
Speaker 4: days of mini camp, through all about tas you saw

1271
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,200
Speaker 4: a progression of you know, I remember at the beginning

1272
01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 4: of that things were a little shaky. You could tell

1273
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 4: this was the guys' first time back on the field,

1274
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 4: you know, in a few months. But over the course

1275
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:27,120
Speaker 4: of those spring practices, things started to gradually look better.

1276
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:29,640
Speaker 4: And so even if we get to Greenbrier, and even

1277
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 4: if maybe you know, it takes a couple of practices

1278
01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 4: for things to get going, which is totally possible, like

1279
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 4: I would also still be really excited to see what

1280
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 4: I think would be a progression, a good progression throughout

1281
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 4: training camp of DeShawn, you know, being able to connect

1282
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 4: with more throws being you know, maybe we'll see just

1283
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:48,800
Speaker 4: as many deep balls then as we did during minicamp,

1284
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 4: which was obviously another big, big theme was just how

1285
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 4: how willing he was to really let the football go,

1286
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,200
Speaker 4: something that we didn't see a whole lot when he

1287
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 4: was playing last year. He's got the weapons to do

1288
01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 4: that now. So I think we're going to see a

1289
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 4: progression through training camp of this team really coming together

1290
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 4: and being better. And a lot of that has to

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01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 4: be because of four, you know, and he's done this before.

1292
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 4: He knows what it takes to build an offense together

1293
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Speaker 4: during a full training camp.

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Speaker 2: One of my favorite things about camp is there will

1295
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 2: come a moment early in practices, first week of practice

1296
01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:24,680
Speaker 2: where usually a rookie or a new guy, and you

1297
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:28,120
Speaker 2: look out there and you go, oh, he's got it.

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Speaker 2: Like we had m J. Emerson. We were out there

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Speaker 2: last year, me and Joe and Nate and we were

1300
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 2: watching and I was that is that And Yeah, that's Emerson.

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01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,800
Speaker 2: We're like, Oh, he can go. He's got it. He's

1302
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 2: got that thing. And I do wonder the room is crowded.

1303
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 2: I get it, but Tilman checks a lot of boxes,

1304
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:50,240
Speaker 2: and just in the limited stuff that I saw, it's

1305
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:52,120
Speaker 2: gonna be hard to work into the rotation. There's a

1306
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 2: lot of talent in that room. Yeah, but he is

1307
01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 2: I think a natural one. He's not gonna be that

1308
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 2: year one, but I think he can progress to that.

1309
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,560
Speaker 2: And I just his hands were really soft, and it

1310
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 2: was like when the ball hit his hands, it was

1311
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 2: sure and to me, I'm curious to see what he

1312
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 2: looks like amongst all the rest. But whether it's him

1313
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,240
Speaker 2: or somebody else, I mean, hell, it could be Luke Whippler.

1314
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 2: It could be somebody like that who just is ahead

1315
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 2: of where people thought and you're like, oh, he belongs.

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01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely. You know I was before I came in here.

1317
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 4: I was taking a look around because I figured at

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01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 4: some point we'd be talking about who maybe we thought

1319
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 4: would be the training camp darling.

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Speaker 3: Right.

1321
01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 4: I feel like when you look go up and down

1322
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 4: the roster, you consider the fact that you know, the

1323
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 4: guys in training camp you stand out the most are

1324
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 4: usually receivers, just because, like I was saying before, it

1325
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 4: still is in some ways of passing camp. Yeah, and

1326
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 4: it's just hard to not see Cedric Tillman, you know,

1327
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 4: not becoming one of those guys. He's you mentioned Emerson.

1328
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 4: You know a reason why Emerson stuck out last year

1329
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 4: was because of his size. You go out on the field,

1330
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 4: you see how big he is compared to the other

1331
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 4: corners in some ways, looks like a linebacker, a bigger

1332
01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 4: safety sometimes and you're.

1333
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 2: Just like this guy, you know, oh, he had hips,

1334
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 2: he could run like there's stuff that you can just

1335
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 2: It seems crazy because all of these guys were among

1336
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 2: the top three percent of college football, right but it's

1337
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 2: just different when you get at this level and the

1338
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 2: ones that have it have it right away. Like before

1339
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,680
Speaker 2: his injury, delp It had it like you you saw

1340
01:06:13,760 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 2: him and he went, he's good. He's going that he

1341
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 2: can go, there's no doubt. And uh j Okay had that.

1342
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 2: He had that explosiveness right away. As a rookie, he

1343
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 2: was lost right away, but once that started to come,

1344
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 2: he always had that explosiveness. And there will be somebody

1345
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:32,760
Speaker 2: out there, first year, new guy who pops. That'll happen

1346
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 2: for you down in Greenbrier. That's definitely gonna happen.

1347
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:36,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, maybe it could be Siakika too.

1348
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 4: You know, he's good, the biggest guy in that.

1349
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:43,200
Speaker 2: It's hard to notice those guys though because of the campus. Yeah,

1350
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 2: I mean yeah, but you'll be able to see his

1351
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,600
Speaker 2: fluidity and you'll see those things exactly. No.

1352
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:49,240
Speaker 4: But but going back to Tilman, like you know the

1353
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 4: plays that he made during menicamp that really stood out.

1354
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,919
Speaker 4: I feel like we're if I remember right too, we're

1355
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:55,880
Speaker 4: the ones in the red zone. You know, that's where

1356
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,840
Speaker 4: a guy with the build like he has can really

1357
01:06:58,920 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 4: really thrive. And you know, I was making the comparison

1358
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 4: to Emerson because I feel like, you know, Tilman can

1359
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:05,919
Speaker 4: easily be that guy again too, Like you were saying,

1360
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 4: he's got he's got that big body, looked great in

1361
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 4: camp in mini camp and seemed like he was gonna already,

1362
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 4: you know, have some really great chemistry with with Watson

1363
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 4: or this, you know, Dobbs, Whoever's going to be in

1364
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 4: taking those second string reps. So he would be my

1365
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 4: early pick for that training camp darling guy. Yep, I

1366
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:26,760
Speaker 4: really like him, and obviously we know that this front

1367
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 4: office really likes him and think that he can come

1368
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 4: in and immediately be a contributor. He definitely showed flashes

1369
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 4: of that at Tennessee. He was a guy that some

1370
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 4: people leading up to the draft thought could go earlier

1371
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 4: than the third round.

1372
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,640
Speaker 2: So dude, before he gets hurt his last year at Tennessee.

1373
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: I mean he Jalen Hyatt had his season right exactly,

1374
01:07:43,360 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 2: he was there one. So yeah, he's got it. I

1375
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 2: don't know if it'll show. And I just use his

1376
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:52,200
Speaker 2: as an example, because there will be somebody who goes

1377
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 2: and turns eyes and heads next week you'll see, yeah exactly.

1378
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 4: I mean so much competition in that receiver room to

1379
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 4: like you were saying, you know, even if even if

1380
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 4: Filman does go in turn heads, he still might be

1381
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:07,439
Speaker 4: the fifth fourth guy on that depth chart. Yeah, which

1382
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 4: is fine because what did we talked about all off

1383
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,880
Speaker 4: season before was you know, we'll take all the good receivers.

1384
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,920
Speaker 4: We need that receiver room to be stacked. That's that's

1385
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 4: one way that you can come close to guaranteeing that

1386
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 4: Deshan will have the best spot of returning back to

1387
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 4: his pro Bowl form. So it would be a great

1388
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 4: sign obviously if he if Cedric Tillman comes out and

1389
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,760
Speaker 4: just makes that receiver room look even better. And yeah,

1390
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 4: based on all we saw in many camp, I don't

1391
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 4: I don't I think he will.

1392
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 2: He will have limited opportunity just because of the depth

1393
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 2: in the room. Jerome Ford is somebody who's gonna get

1394
01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 2: a big chance to shine here. And if I think

1395
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 2: if somebody who could have a big role on this team,

1396
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,000
Speaker 2: sure other than the ones that are known, he's the

1397
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,160
Speaker 2: one that needs to have a good camp to prevent

1398
01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 2: them from saying, hey, let's go. Maybe McKinnon's available, let's go.

1399
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 2: He's got an.

1400
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 4: Opportunity, actually, And I think the way that Jerome does

1401
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 4: that is by just showing how much improvement he's made

1402
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 4: as a pass catcher because and pass protector, pass protector too,

1403
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 4: And that's Stump talked about when he was asked about

1404
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 4: Jerome was, you know, he's come a little long way

1405
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 4: just toward being able to plug holes for you know,

1406
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 4: one passing plays for the QB. So I do think

1407
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 4: the way that Jerome really makes a big impact in

1408
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 4: this offense this year is not just by that, but

1409
01:09:12,280 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 4: but by taking up some of that role that that

1410
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 4: Cream Hunt had previous years. You know, he obviously won't

1411
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,839
Speaker 4: be expected, I don't think, to catch the same volume

1412
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 4: of passes every game or be that same type of

1413
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 4: screen guy, but he is definitely still going to be

1414
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:26,479
Speaker 4: leaned on that a lot. And you know, I remember

1415
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:28,840
Speaker 4: Andrew Berry I back at I think it was the

1416
01:09:28,920 --> 01:09:31,680
Speaker 4: Combine when he was asked about Jerome Ford and he

1417
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,280
Speaker 4: specifically highlighted hisas his past catching abilities and thought that,

1418
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,840
Speaker 4: you know, well, he didn't necessarily have a whole lot

1419
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 4: of opportunities to show that last year, like they did

1420
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,559
Speaker 4: think that he made some strides there, and that to

1421
01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 4: me was the first hint because that was, you know,

1422
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 4: before a free agency and everything. That to me was

1423
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 4: the first hint this offseason where it's like, you know,

1424
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 4: they might really like Jerome Ford as that number two back.

1425
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 4: He only got I think it was like eight carries

1426
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,599
Speaker 4: for twelve yards last year, but you know you could

1427
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 4: see some of that explosiveness, that elusiveness as a kickoff

1428
01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 4: return for him, and and you know, I think he's

1429
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 4: going to have a great opportunity, as you were saying,

1430
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,000
Speaker 4: to to really show that as a true running back

1431
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:08,560
Speaker 4: this year. You know, you're gonna give Nick Chubb the

1432
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,280
Speaker 4: ball a lot. Still, there's no doubt about that. Yeah,

1433
01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 4: but there's always got to be a backup running back

1434
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 4: tough they can plug in whenever they need, and it

1435
01:10:14,200 --> 01:10:16,400
Speaker 4: seems like they're really confident that Drum can be that guy.

1436
01:10:16,520 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 4: So pass catching past, blocking, all those things. It seems like,

1437
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 4: based on what you know we've heard, have made some

1438
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 4: serious strides, and so I think that's why they're they're

1439
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 4: content with him at number two.

1440
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:26,960
Speaker 2: Give me if you get to play the Old White,

1441
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 2: what is your what's a score you're happy with?

1442
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:30,599
Speaker 4: Score?

1443
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 2: What do you mean if you get to play the

1444
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 2: Old White, which is the big course down there?

1445
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1446
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, what is the score that you're happy with?

1447
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:43,040
Speaker 4: H See, I am always gonna.

1448
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 2: It's a full day. It's a full day, especially if

1449
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,560
Speaker 2: you play like number tips. I don't know at the

1450
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 2: top of my head.

1451
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll go with like, anything under one.

1452
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 3: Hundred, you know, was a good golfer for you.

1453
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 4: I remember when I played the only other PGA course,

1454
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 4: I played the Ocean Course. I was just I went

1455
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 4: into that they thinking if I break a hundred, I'll

1456
01:11:02,840 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 4: be happy, and I shot ninety eight.

1457
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 2: So there you go.

1458
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 4: If I break one hundred here, I'll be happy.

1459
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 2: Okay. So that was It's not it's not in the

1460
01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 2: same vicinity as like Mierfield, like you've played there, it's

1461
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:15,320
Speaker 2: not even close to that difficult. But it's tough. It's tough.

1462
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:16,760
Speaker 2: I think you break up.

1463
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:18,320
Speaker 4: I like a tough golf course because it just makes

1464
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,400
Speaker 4: you think you gotta you know, you gotta be careful

1465
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 4: with every shot. You really got to focus in on.

1466
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cool. I'm looking for We look forward to

1467
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:24,679
Speaker 2: your reviews.

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01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 3: Buddy.

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01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 2: Enjoy your time down there. I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: So the matting ratings are coming out. We've seen a

1482
01:12:31,880 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 2: lot of these. So I just saw the rookie ones,

1483
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 2: the rookie wide receivers Jackson Smith and Jigg was a

1484
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 2: ninety eight. He's an eighty nine speed, which is a

1485
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 2: faster speed rating than Garrett Wilson and Chris Alave. He

1486
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 2: is not faster than Garrett Wilson, Jackson Smith and Jig

1487
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,719
Speaker 2: is not nice player. They have Zay Flowers a ninety three,

1488
01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: which is a higher speed rating than Deebo Samuel or

1489
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson. That's pretty fast.

1490
01:12:58,320 --> 01:12:59,960
Speaker 3: I think they're having a generous number.

1491
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: It feels like they're gonna let the rookies go a

1492
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 2: little bit here this year on the Maden I don't

1493
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:06,920
Speaker 2: know if I'm gonna buy it. I bought it every year.

1494
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 2: The kids that have very little interest in it after

1495
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 2: the first you buy it and then they play it

1496
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:12,920
Speaker 2: for the first week and then they're done.

1497
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 3: No, I where did my garbage go? Give me, I'm

1498
01:13:16,280 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 3: working on it. The garbage. What garbage cans filled with

1499
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 3: coat hangers? Why? I don't know where the coat hangers

1500
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 3: came from?

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01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 2: Take all the wood ones out? I think we did, Yeah,

1502
01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,160
Speaker 2: save those, those are the good ones.

1503
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:30,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't. I don't know where all the hangers.

1504
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 3: They might There's a.

1505
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 2: There's a forty two Rag Brown's alumni jacket that I'm

1506
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:37,839
Speaker 2: just going to take.

1507
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:47,559
Speaker 3: You should wear it the night of the party. Oh God,

1508
01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 3: if I had one my size, I would do it

1509
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:54,880
Speaker 3: with you, which is just oh yeah, sure, I'm sure

1510
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,639
Speaker 3: who's who's to argue? I don't know where those came from. There.

1511
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 3: At least they've been there for at least three years.

1512
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 2: I think they've been here since I've been doing this.

1513
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 2: I started doing the show in eighteen ish nineteen eighteen.

1514
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:09,839
Speaker 2: I can't remember. I think this is the sixth season.

1515
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:11,160
Speaker 3: We're starting our sixth six.

1516
01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 2: And yeah, yes, we've been doing this for a while.

1517
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 2: And I think those coats have been in there the

1518
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 2: whole time. It's funny like everything else was moved out,

1519
01:14:18,640 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 2: but somehow those stayed.

1520
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 3: Well, those ended up in here. And when I came back,

1521
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 3: I was like, Nope, those are going right back out there,

1522
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 3: back out. We'll see how long they last.

1523
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: Those are like Ziguris football cleats were in there for

1524
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 2: six years.

1525
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,400
Speaker 3: I think I made him get rid of those. I

1526
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 3: think he finally threw him out. There's a garbage bag

1527
01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 3: with all of his stuff that he just kind of

1528
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 3: because he comes in like I gotta go work out,

1529
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 3: and then he just like throws it on the ground.

1530
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 3: I'm like, this is not your bedroom, nor is it

1531
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 3: your home.

1532
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 2: What I do?

1533
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:51,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly what I do?

1534
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 2: All right, what do we got here? We got we're

1535
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 2: living each team's best free agent signing. Yeah, you know,

1536
01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:58,639
Speaker 2: let's have some fun.

1537
01:14:58,760 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 3: What we're doing.

1538
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,839
Speaker 2: It's that time. Yeah, so from CBS Sports.

1539
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, our favorite people, each team's best free agent signing.

1540
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 3: So like Arizona had, like Kurt Warner.

1541
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:12,040
Speaker 2: Oh, this is all time.

1542
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we're not guessing then.

1543
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 2: I think I think I've given you a pretty good

1544
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:24,799
Speaker 2: scatting report on what to expect.

1545
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:30,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I have a lot of questions internally

1546
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 3: that we still need to Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, where

1547
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 3: are we you know, what are we doing? What is

1548
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:37,200
Speaker 3: the game plan?

1549
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 2: So were we in the room? Were They were big

1550
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,200
Speaker 2: on like selling the charm of it all? And I

1551
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 2: was big on this feels like a lot of money

1552
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:49,959
Speaker 2: for the charm.

1553
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:51,759
Speaker 3: I mean, how's the pool situation?

1554
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 2: Fine? Nice, it's overlooks the golf That's great because that

1555
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:57,400
Speaker 2: that that's nice, Like got cabanas.

1556
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 3: I will be there maybe as much as I will

1557
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 3: be on the golf course. I like it.

1558
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:02,880
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a great.

1559
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 3: It's ninety degrees.

1560
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, great view. Uh, that'll be great. And you

1561
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:09,560
Speaker 2: you overlook the golf.

1562
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 3: So that's right, seeds, I'm fine there.

1563
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 2: And they do have like I mean it's it's white

1564
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:18,080
Speaker 2: sulfur springs. They do have those hot springs like the

1565
01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:21,000
Speaker 2: spa set up has that. They do have an indoor pool.

1566
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 2: That's kind of crazy too, because it's something that very

1567
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 2: clearly was built in a bygone era. Gotcha, but it's

1568
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 2: functional and kind of crazy. The boys maybe saw their

1569
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 2: first R rated movie there at the pool indoor pool,

1570
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 2: going all right, that's how we're going to do it here.

1571
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:45,559
Speaker 2: You'll you'll do well, you'll do well. And I think

1572
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 2: the golf you're gonna you're gonna it's gonna be very

1573
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:53,679
Speaker 2: it's going to be very very uh economical time wise.

1574
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 2: The golf. I think you're gonna be able to fly around.

1575
01:16:55,680 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just from a time I I feel

1576
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:02,320
Speaker 3: like I'll be able to get out and play golf

1577
01:17:02,479 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 3: maybe around four o'clock, five o'clock. Yeah, but because you're

1578
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,320
Speaker 3: going to practice in the morning, yeah, and availability to

1579
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 3: be right after right into our show.

1580
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for our show, it's gonna be pretty

1581
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,439
Speaker 2: great because we're gonna be coming right up the practice field.

1582
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of live at the podiums.

1583
01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, those will be good. And then the Yeah, so

1584
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 2: I think I think five o'clock, like you could whip

1585
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 2: out there and play a quick nine, grab a meal

1586
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 2: in your set, that'd be great.

1587
01:17:30,120 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1588
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 2: I mean that's when I remember there were very few

1589
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,320
Speaker 2: people playing in the afternoons like that, like five o'clock.

1590
01:17:35,320 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 2: Most people played early. So like I think, when you

1591
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:39,799
Speaker 2: guys are free, you're gonna be able to take advantage.

1592
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 3: And that's you know, I think about it, and I

1593
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 3: go all right, like get up in the morning, get

1594
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 3: your work done, get practice in, show in everything along

1595
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:56,519
Speaker 3: those lines, like I'll eat when I eat. I'm not

1596
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,559
Speaker 3: in a hurry to eat. I'd rather go play golf.

1597
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,360
Speaker 3: I'd rather go get nine hole in at five thirty

1598
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:03,680
Speaker 3: six o'clock and then I'll come back and eat. Like

1599
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 3: it'll be fine.

1600
01:18:04,439 --> 01:18:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that. I think that'll be your that's gonna

1601
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 2: be the way.

1602
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,240
Speaker 3: A little soak in the in in the pool after

1603
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:16,240
Speaker 3: Yeah great, that's whatever. Like we've got a long We've

1604
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 3: got ten days. I've got ten days.

1605
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you do.

1606
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:22,479
Speaker 3: You do? You do well?

1607
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 2: He'll do well. Best free agent signing in NFL history,

1608
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 2: Reggie White, Right, I would think so. I mean when

1609
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:33,000
Speaker 2: he left for the Kids, he's on the all time

1610
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 2: NFL defensive line, and I think he's the best free

1611
01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 2: agent signing of all time. At the height of his powers,

1612
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:40,479
Speaker 2: he left from Philly and went to Green Bay. Who

1613
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 2: am I missing?

1614
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 3: Drew Brees. That was a quick one.

1615
01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:50,519
Speaker 2: Sorry, good one. No, I like that he was somehow

1616
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 2: he somehow he was a true free agent. H Yeah,

1617
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 2: because he he was available. Yeah, it was a second

1618
01:18:57,240 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 2: round pick. Well, no, he was a second round pick.

1619
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,519
Speaker 2: So that's how he became available that quickly, because I

1620
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:02,760
Speaker 2: want to say he was the first pick of the

1621
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 2: second round.

1622
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:03,760
Speaker 3: He was.

1623
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:08,240
Speaker 2: Okay, the only thing I would say about Breeze, it's

1624
01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,599
Speaker 2: a great answer in terms of the foresight of it all.

1625
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 2: But at the time Breeze signed with the Saints, there

1626
01:19:15,479 --> 01:19:20,360
Speaker 2: wasn't anybody that thought he would be Drew Brees. Reggie

1627
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,719
Speaker 2: White was fully formed when he signed with Green Bay,

1628
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 2: Like there was You never see that, like superstar height

1629
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:32,479
Speaker 2: of their powers changing teams with no compensation. You just

1630
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,560
Speaker 2: never see that anymore. And that was But it's a

1631
01:19:35,560 --> 01:19:37,200
Speaker 2: great one. On Breeze. I mean, Breeze would be the

1632
01:19:37,240 --> 01:19:39,679
Speaker 2: other answer to that. Those two guys, and both those

1633
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 2: guys were those two franchises don't win their Super Bowls

1634
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,120
Speaker 2: without them because Reggie was just the center of the

1635
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 2: Packags defense that won the Super Bowl ninety six, and

1636
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:50,760
Speaker 2: obviously Breeze won the Super Bowl beating the Colts. Would

1637
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 2: you guys consider Peyton Manning? I mean he technically was

1638
01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 2: a free agent, right and Tom Brady he would.

1639
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 3: Have to be.

1640
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, both of those guys would be yeah.

1641
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, who did Denver? Who do they list for Denver?

1642
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 2: Because they cut Manning? Right Manning? Yeah, Indy cut Manning.

1643
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,480
Speaker 3: The forty nine Ers had Dion Sanders.

1644
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 2: He was a true free agent. I don't know how

1645
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 2: he only how He played out his contract in Atlanta

1646
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 2: in his prime, but he was only there one year.

1647
01:20:20,520 --> 01:20:22,080
Speaker 2: He was there in ninety four they won it and

1648
01:20:22,160 --> 01:20:23,480
Speaker 2: then he went to the Cowboys.

1649
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:23,639
Speaker 3: In ninety five.

1650
01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:26,599
Speaker 2: Best season as a pro and maybe the best season

1651
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,840
Speaker 2: of cornerback has ever played in the history of the sport.

1652
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 2: He was Defensive Player of the Year, I want to

1653
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 2: say in ninety four.

1654
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, return three pick sixes.

1655
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was on a whole other level.

1656
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 3: Obviously, Tampa Bay has Tom Brady.

1657
01:20:38,160 --> 01:20:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, Brady and Manning kind of mirrored each other in

1658
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,519
Speaker 2: that they delivered results almost immediately.

1659
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:51,040
Speaker 3: This is weird. The Titans. They've got DeAndre Hopkins. Is

1660
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:52,560
Speaker 3: that it for them?

1661
01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 2: Well, it's hard because they giving their Houston history to

1662
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 2: do they get all that? I suppose they do. Someone

1663
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 2: has that history, might as well be them looking up Houston. Now,

1664
01:21:04,840 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 2: uh bye, Houston's got Arian Foster. So I don't know ours?

1665
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:14,160
Speaker 2: Is lou the Toe?

1666
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 3: Yeah? I was gonna say, can you guess ours? Not

1667
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:22,759
Speaker 3: so much? Undrafted rookie out of Ohio State.

1668
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:26,839
Speaker 2: Wow, undrafted well, different era man.

1669
01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 3: Twenty one seasons with the Browns, a member of all

1670
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 3: eight of the Browns championship teams, nine time Pro bowler,

1671
01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:36,720
Speaker 3: four time All Pro in the fifties. After a one

1672
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 3: year retirement, Grozer returned to the Browns as a kicker

1673
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty one. He led the NFL and field

1674
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 3: goal percentage twice while helping the Browns win the sixty

1675
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:46,400
Speaker 3: fourth title.

1676
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 2: That's pretty good. Yeah, that's very good.

1677
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's pretty crazy.

1678
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 2: I mean, wasn't the I mean, you'd have to you. You,

1679
01:21:56,080 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 2: you and I were too young for this. You have

1680
01:21:57,479 --> 01:22:00,599
Speaker 2: to ask somebody like Tony or Pluto or somebody like that.

1681
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 2: But like the Andre Risen free agency, does that lead

1682
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 2: to the Browns leaving? Is that kind of the final

1683
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 2: nail in that or did it contribute? Because though there

1684
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 2: was always was it Model didn't have the money to

1685
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 2: pay him the bat bonus, and that was like when

1686
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:18,160
Speaker 2: it became known I think publicly. And again this is

1687
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 2: very neophyte on me. I acknowledge, I won't pretend to

1688
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:24,240
Speaker 2: ad Munraz. But the theory was always that he had

1689
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,400
Speaker 2: that he didn't have the money to pay him, and

1690
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 2: so then it became kind of known like oh wow,

1691
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 2: Art doesn't have any money.

1692
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:31,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of snowballed from there.

1693
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I would say that Toner, one of those

1694
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:35,640
Speaker 2: guys who was here at that time, would have a

1695
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 2: better Jim would too.

1696
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 3: Dallas had Tony Romo. I thought they drafted Tony Romo.

1697
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:43,640
Speaker 2: He was maybe undrafted.

1698
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 3: Undrafted rookie rode the bench during his first three years

1699
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 3: in Dallas before he replaced Drew Bledsoe.

1700
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,240
Speaker 2: You could argue Dion Sanders for them too, because he

1701
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 2: signed there in ninety five, so he would he could

1702
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 2: have been on the city.

1703
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 3: They didn't even mention him. They like he beat out

1704
01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:03,759
Speaker 3: j novichk. I'm like, yeah, all right, I mean that's

1705
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 3: fine Indianapolis. The Colts had Johnny Unitis.

1706
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,599
Speaker 2: Nice, Okay, that grows it. None of those should count.

1707
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Chiefs had Len Dawson.

1708
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:14,160
Speaker 2: Like when you say free agent, I think it should

1709
01:23:14,160 --> 01:23:17,680
Speaker 2: be like modern era free agent where it's like, this

1710
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,720
Speaker 2: is a guy whose contract was allowed to run out

1711
01:23:19,720 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 2: somewhere else and you sign him to the deal.

1712
01:23:26,560 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 3: How would the Chiefs no Joe Montana because they didn't

1713
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:33,320
Speaker 3: win anything?

1714
01:23:33,400 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 2: Or did they Did they trade him for him maybe?

1715
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:38,519
Speaker 2: Or did they get him via free agency? The girl

1716
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:40,639
Speaker 2: would know for sure. I don't know if the Niners

1717
01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:42,760
Speaker 2: traded Joe or if they or if he was a

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01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 2: true free agent.

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01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 3: I mean, Dawson won the Chiefs of Super Bowl, so

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01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:46,639
Speaker 3: I guess.

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01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:48,400
Speaker 2: But that's another one of those like in that era

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01:23:48,479 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 2: that what was the draft? The draft really wasn't a

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01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 2: big deal until the eighties that anybody had a clue

1724
01:23:53,920 --> 01:23:54,759
Speaker 2: went on with the draft.

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01:23:54,880 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah. The Chiefs have a long history of successful free

1726
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:05,439
Speaker 3: agent acquisitions, including the Honey Badger Marcus Allen, Emmitt Smith,

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01:24:05,479 --> 01:24:06,360
Speaker 3: and Priest Holmes.

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01:24:06,920 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 2: So he was traded. Joe was traded from San Francisco

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01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 2: to Kansas.

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01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:14,200
Speaker 3: City after being a backup Lend Dawson was a backup

1731
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:17,520
Speaker 3: in Cleveland. After being a backup in Pittsburgh and Cleveland,

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01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 3: Dawson signed with the AFLs Texans renamed the Chiefs in

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01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:25,920
Speaker 3: nineteen sixty two. Dawson won League MVP that year, leading

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01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 3: Kansas City to his first of three AFL titles. Led

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01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,679
Speaker 3: the Chiefs also to a victory in Super Bowl four.

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01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:38,479
Speaker 2: Wow, this is pretty interesting on the Montana so he

1737
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,040
Speaker 2: was traded. He was traded the same and they also

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01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 2: signed free agent running back Marcus Allen that year in

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01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,920
Speaker 2: Kansas City. I didn't know this part of it. The

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01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 2: Chiefs mailed three jerseys to Montana. One was at number three,

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01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,519
Speaker 2: his number at Notre Dame, which the Chiefs had retired

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01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,080
Speaker 2: for Jan stener Rude, former Montana sate bobcat Cold. You

1743
01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:54,559
Speaker 2: it at him?

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01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:54,880
Speaker 3: Wow.

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01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: Stener Rude allowed for him to wear it. Hall of Famer.

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01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 2: Another was nineteen, which was a number he wore in

1747
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 2: youth football and briefly in training camp in seventy nine,

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01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 2: and the third was number sixteen, which Hall of Fame

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01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 2: quarterback Len Dawson offered to let Montana wear since the

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01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:13,240
Speaker 2: organization had retired it. Montana declined Dawson in Centerod's offers

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01:25:13,240 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 2: and were nineteen instead. I like, it's a look all right,

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01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,120
Speaker 2: we'll do a little higher lower. Coming up next, listen

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Speaker 2: Do you think Rogers is more Do you think his

1759
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 2: run in New York is more Montana? Brady Manning?

1760
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:04,120
Speaker 3: Probably Manning.

1761
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:08,519
Speaker 2: So Warren Sharp had some damaging stuff on him based

1762
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 2: on what his last season was, his big previews out,

1763
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 2: you know, and he had had some data on him

1764
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 2: that suggests that maybe he was worse off than statistically,

1765
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:18,360
Speaker 2: but he was dealing with a what do you have

1766
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,400
Speaker 2: an wrist or something. I tend to be with you.

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01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,120
Speaker 2: I think he's more like Manning. I think he could

1768
01:26:23,160 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 2: have like a four year run, three of which are great.

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01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 2: I think he's got tons of weapons.

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01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think he's got a good support staff. I

1772
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 3: think he's got a good head coach. Yeah, I think

1773
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 3: that AFC East, I think we've talked about it. I

1774
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 3: think Buffalo's window is now or maybe tearing it down

1775
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 3: and starting over or not a.

1776
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,080
Speaker 2: Second incarnation of them, you know, like that's like the

1777
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,280
Speaker 2: Chiefs did that and then won a Super Bowl while

1778
01:26:51,320 --> 01:26:54,559
Speaker 2: doing that, correct, which speaks to the talent of Mahomes

1779
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 2: and Kelsey and Reid and all of that operation.

1780
01:26:56,439 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 3: But the factor, oh no, And I'm I don't know

1781
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,599
Speaker 3: what we We don't know what the Dolphins are yet.

1782
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 3: They're a talented team. Can your quarterback stay on the field.

1783
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,320
Speaker 2: He's got to stay healthy. Yeah, you know that's a

1784
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:13,680
Speaker 2: that's a big part of that thing there. Yeah, I

1785
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 2: think that they I think he'll have immediate success. I

1786
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:18,800
Speaker 2: would be shocked if he wasn't really good right away.

1787
01:27:18,840 --> 01:27:21,080
Speaker 2: And I think he's motivated to be so too. Yeah,

1788
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,879
Speaker 2: you're in one spot for that long, at least.

1789
01:27:23,640 --> 01:27:27,519
Speaker 3: For the first year. We'll see what happens after that. Yeah,

1790
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 3: because I feel like he could he could lose interest

1791
01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:34,080
Speaker 3: and then just go, eh, I don't need to come

1792
01:27:34,120 --> 01:27:37,719
Speaker 3: back out. It's been a good run. I've done everything,

1793
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 3: I've made all the money I need to.

1794
01:27:39,400 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 2: It does feel I mean there's you know, like Farv

1795
01:27:42,120 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 2: is obviously him and Farv are following the exact same

1796
01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:49,760
Speaker 2: path career path. Farv that year with the Jets was

1797
01:27:49,840 --> 01:27:52,839
Speaker 2: pretty bad, and then he was great again in Minnesota.

1798
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:56,559
Speaker 2: Minnesota should well, they were ANFC championship game and should

1799
01:27:56,560 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 2: have gone to the Super Bowl. Yeah, so I'll be

1800
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 2: curious I see kind of what how he goes and

1801
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:08,160
Speaker 2: they would, They absolutely are, They're they're gonna be right

1802
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,800
Speaker 2: there in an AFC that's completely loaded. We'll do a little,

1803
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 2: we'll do high lower with the building blocks. Coming up

1804
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 2: tomorrow on the program, so much more to come you

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Speaker 2: more on that. It's gonna get here close. We've got

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Speaker 2: guys here on Wednesday quarterbacks.

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01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, I feel like people are already starting

1819
01:29:12,160 --> 01:29:14,360
Speaker 3: to straggle, and I know, just throw it down on

1820
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:17,640
Speaker 3: the ground. You're fine. I'll have a garbage can for

1821
01:29:17,720 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 3: you tomorrow. We'll get it done. We got the stream

1822
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:24,879
Speaker 3: back up and running baby steps. Yeah, that's operation.

1823
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:27,639
Speaker 2: So that's good. So then so we need one more

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01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,920
Speaker 2: camera here. Yeah, I think I figured out what to put.

1825
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 2: I think we put. What you do there is you

1826
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 2: put like one of the NFL championships right there on

1827
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 2: that table.

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01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:39,599
Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna move the table and I'm gonna

1829
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 3: bring a sleeping bag and lay on the floor and

1830
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 3: work with my laptop and see how long someone says something.

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01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 2: Not long, I don't think so. I don't think it'd

1832
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 2: be long. I think you walking up the stairs with

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01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,679
Speaker 2: the sleeping bag and there's like a tranquilizer gun frame

1834
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:54,439
Speaker 2: taking you out.

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01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 3: Now, he's got a lot going on. We got to

1836
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:00,160
Speaker 3: move a lot of people here.

1837
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 2: The course of on the old days when jim they

1838
01:30:02,360 --> 01:30:04,559
Speaker 2: were in the chopper with Marlon Perkins, they'd take the

1839
01:30:04,600 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 2: water buffalo out with the trank gun.

1840
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 3: Maybe we should bring the equipment manager of the year

1841
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:10,680
Speaker 3: up here. We was.

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01:30:10,760 --> 01:30:13,439
Speaker 2: I was surprised he wasn't prominently featured in the big teaser.

1843
01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 3: Uh he was not in that day. No, Oh, he

1844
01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:21,800
Speaker 3: was supposed to be. Oh, then they had to leave

1845
01:30:21,880 --> 01:30:22,439
Speaker 3: last minute.

1846
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:26,240
Speaker 2: You don't have anything right, pursuit of excellence. How can

1847
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,640
Speaker 2: we give a pursuit of excellence award if he's not

1848
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 2: in the mix.

1849
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,519
Speaker 3: He was supposed to be. He was supposed to be.

1850
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:32,959
Speaker 3: Jimmy was fantastic.

1851
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:34,640
Speaker 2: They were, They were very very good. So that'll be

1852
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 2: fun tomorrow we'll review that.

1853
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that he will have some luminaries on.

1854
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,920
Speaker 2: Well, we could maybe we have an article.

1855
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 3: Be nice, you know, it'd be cool.

1856
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:45,559
Speaker 2: Remember well this back when we used to get all

1857
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:46,920
Speaker 2: sorts of guys on here all the time, when we'd

1858
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:48,479
Speaker 2: have him sign. That was fun.

1859
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:50,759
Speaker 3: Boy. That helmet could tell some stories.

1860
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 2: That helmet's got it's back there. I don't know if

1861
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 2: it's worth nothing, because there's so it's such an eclectic in.

1862
01:30:57,840 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 2: The huss signed it, so did Odell Beckham, Friday Kitchens,

1863
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:07,200
Speaker 2: Kareem and Jervis Landry. Next levels, Next Cleveland's Daily, fifty

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Speaker 2: esp of Cleveland.

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