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Speaker 5: Yeah, so not literally this morning when I was up
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Speaker 5: I was like thinking, like, oh man, taking inventory. I'm like,
Speaker 5: I got a bum toe, I got a bum knee,
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Speaker 5: Like it's just like everything is breaking down. I'm like,
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Speaker 8: Ankle pop twice, the knee pops you stretch, and the
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Speaker 2: Exactly.
Speaker 7: Well. Your is good, your rib is good, your you
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Speaker 2: Everybody still running eighty miles a morning.
Speaker 7: I can't do that. And I'm earlier than you.
Speaker 5: So I think that's gonna end. At some point my
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Speaker 5: want to try biking, you know, Yeah, biking is fun.
Speaker 5: It's all right, let's jump in. We got a lot
Speaker 5: to talk about today. We're gonna talk about Detroit defense
Speaker 5: versus the Cowboys offense. Before we get to that, though,
Speaker 5: let's catch up on some injury updates. We've got three
Speaker 5: guys that want to talk about Tyron Smith who did
Speaker 5: not practice with a back injury, to Manydoga who has
Speaker 5: a toe injury had limited participation yesterday, and then Rico
Speaker 5: Dada with an ankle injury he did not practice. What
Speaker 5: are we hearing about those three?
Speaker 8: I think Rico is going to be hard pressed to
Speaker 8: play against the Lions. I mean, he only had two
Speaker 8: handoffs for four yards. I think the ankle injury that
Speaker 8: he's been managing for the past several weeks, I want
Speaker 8: to say two months at least, is really kind of
Speaker 8: catching up with him. And I think they're at the
Speaker 8: point where they're looking at maybe shut him down a
Speaker 8: little bit so that try to.
Speaker 2: Help him heal up for the playoffs.
Speaker 8: I think that gives you Elie Davis for his third
Speaker 8: and final elevation for the regular season, so look for
Speaker 8: that to be a thing. Like you said, Derek, he
Speaker 8: didn't practice rico on yesterday. We'll see if he does today,
Speaker 8: but I doubt it because he was downgraded yesterday to meydoga,
Speaker 8: like you said, popped up with a toe injury. Limited.
Speaker 8: I don't think that this is something that will hold
Speaker 8: him out. But again today being the Thursday practice technically
Speaker 8: for I day, we'll see how it goes. With the designations.
Speaker 8: Jonathan Hankins, we talked about him yesterday. There is some
Speaker 8: optimism there, but if I'm a betting man, I don't
Speaker 8: bet that he plays. I'd be pleasantly surprised if he does.
Speaker 8: Malie Cooker good news. Upgraded from limited to full with
Speaker 8: his ankle injury, so he's back to full health or
Speaker 8: damn near it.
Speaker 2: So that's a good stuff. That's good stuff. Hunter.
Speaker 8: LOOKI also upgraded with his thigh issue from limited to full.
Speaker 8: Zach Martin had a rest day Tyrone Smith DNP, which
Speaker 8: is did not participate again. I don't know that I
Speaker 8: put too much stock in that simply because he's on
Speaker 8: quote unquote the plan. So whether it was the back
Speaker 8: issue or him not practicing any way, because that's the
Speaker 8: course that they have him on. I don't know that
Speaker 8: he would have participated, so it makes it hard to
Speaker 8: determine where he is in the process. But they're at
Speaker 8: least mostly optimistic that he'll play. But we'll see, maybe
Speaker 8: sixty forty and well, let's go. He was activated yesterday
Speaker 8: in that transaction that replaced Rashaan Evans, So I do
Speaker 8: want to point out for the Lions though, Taylor Decker
Speaker 8: they're starting left tackle. He was down from limited on
Speaker 8: Tuesday too, did not participate on Wednesday with a growing injury,
Speaker 8: So they have an issue at left tackle, maybe something
Speaker 8: the Cowboys can exploit. We'll see, but that's a big
Speaker 8: one to look at for Detroit, if.
Speaker 5: My memory serves correct. Yesterday, Brian and we were talking
Speaker 5: about the line's offense. You were saying that left side
Speaker 5: had some problems anyway. Is that is this worsening it
Speaker 5: or was Taylor Decker part of the problem.
Speaker 3: He's part of the problem too. I mean, yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: he's a very good athlete, but the problem with him
Speaker 3: he's not very strong. And you got a couple of
Speaker 3: guys on your defensive line that are really good and
Speaker 3: they go speed to power, and that's where I think
Speaker 3: that the you know, he's talking about the growing injury
Speaker 3: with him. We'll see if in fact that he does
Speaker 3: play in this game, but that was going to be
Speaker 3: a spot I was going to attack anyway with him
Speaker 3: in the lineup or out of the lineup. I'm still
Speaker 3: going that direction.
Speaker 5: That should be an interesting matchup for the Cowboys. And
Speaker 5: as you said, like I really believe this game is
Speaker 5: going to come down to the two offenses in how
Speaker 5: well they can operate. So if there's a way to
Speaker 5: be able to affect their passing game or the running game,
Speaker 5: I think that's going to be a for the Cowboys.
Speaker 3: All right, let's jump in.
Speaker 5: Let's talk a little bit about this this Detroit defense,
Speaker 5: and Brian, I'm gonna start again where I started yesterday.
Speaker 5: I want to get a big picture look, and I
Speaker 5: really want to do this because this is not an
Speaker 5: opponent that the Cowboys necessarily face often. I want to
Speaker 5: make your fans have a good overview of where they are.
Speaker 5: Tell me what they do best and what they struggle
Speaker 5: the most at when it comes to their defense.
Speaker 3: Well, Dak loves playing him. I think he's four and
Speaker 3: ohero in his career against these guys, so when he
Speaker 3: does see him, you know, that's a positive there. I
Speaker 3: think the best thing they do on defense is their
Speaker 3: ability to affect you with linebacker pressure rush in the passer.
Speaker 3: This is we saw last week the problems that the
Speaker 3: Cowboys had dealing with the linebackers and the blitz They
Speaker 3: do a really good job of timing up linebacker blitzes,
Speaker 3: safety blitzes, slot blitzes. So you're going to see Aaron Glenn,
Speaker 3: who's their defensive coordinator, does a really good job with this.
Speaker 3: He's going to you know, he's going to disguise where
Speaker 3: he has guys in the box and then next thing
Speaker 3: you know, you're going to see blitzes coming that direction. So,
Speaker 3: you know, the Cowboys didn't exactly handle things very well
Speaker 3: against the Dolphins. Maybe you know the communication. I know
Speaker 3: I was listening to Nate Newton last night on our show,
Speaker 3: The Cross Talk Show, and he was talking about communication
Speaker 3: with offensive linemen on the road. We talked about on
Speaker 3: our show as well. And you know, but you have
Speaker 3: a home home game this week, so hopefully that will
Speaker 3: help you. But that's something that I would worry about
Speaker 3: with the with the Lions. You know, if they get
Speaker 3: in this game and now all of a sudden, it's
Speaker 3: like you start to see their linebackers near the line,
Speaker 3: you start to see their safeties near the line, they're
Speaker 3: likely going to bring a blitz on you. And so
Speaker 3: they're really good at at handling that. I think where
Speaker 3: I would I would say to me where the attack
Speaker 3: would be is I don't think necessarily at the cornerback
Speaker 3: spot that they're great. And I say this in a way,
Speaker 3: I think their safeties are some of the best you're
Speaker 3: gonna play. Melifan Wu and Joseph they're both outstanding safeties.
Speaker 3: Brian Branch, the rookie from Alabama who was a safety
Speaker 3: at Alabama, plays as their slot corner. He is really
Speaker 3: good in coverage. He's you know, he's a sticky guy.
Speaker 3: But I think Cameron Sudden the corner on where's number one.
Speaker 3: I think there's some snaps where you'll see him lose
Speaker 3: his man in coverage, and you know, especially they'll ask
Speaker 3: him if they do play they play about the metrics
Speaker 3: will tell you about sixty seven percent zone coverage, but
Speaker 3: they they'll they'll have times where they will lose guys
Speaker 3: in coverage, and they're and they're they're hopeful this week
Speaker 3: that they get Jerry Jacobs back the corner they lost.
Speaker 3: They've been playing with a couple of fill ins the
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks and it's been just okay for him.
Speaker 3: But I kind of feel like that where people have
Speaker 3: kind of taken advantage of these guys is like a
Speaker 3: guy like I said, Cameron Smith, who loses men in coverage.
Speaker 3: You know, Ceedee Lamb really good at route running and
Speaker 3: his ability to have guys not stay with so uh
Speaker 3: blitzing linebackers, blitzing secondary the best and then the lack
Speaker 3: of coverage on the corners I think is an issue
Speaker 3: for them as the worst.
Speaker 5: It sounds like they are better at the slot than
Speaker 5: they are on the outside.
Speaker 3: There's no question they are. That's and and you know
Speaker 3: they they I said, they're just they're committed to playing
Speaker 3: uh you know, and playing with that with their with
Speaker 3: their with their slot corner. They just don't want to
Speaker 3: move Branch to the outside. They like him inside and
Speaker 3: they're going to try and figure out ways to to
Speaker 3: to navigate the uh the other you know, the other positions.
Speaker 3: But man, I'll tell you what. Branch is a good
Speaker 3: player and Melafwan moved the safety and Joe those are
Speaker 3: good play Like I say, those you make a mistake
Speaker 3: just being careless with the ball and you just like
Speaker 3: throw it up and you're like you're not quick throwing it,
Speaker 3: or you're not you know, you're not confident in throwing
Speaker 3: it and you just kind of loft it out there
Speaker 3: and hope for the best. These guys will hawk it, yep,
Speaker 3: you know, and that's that's what you kind of have
Speaker 3: to worry about in this game.
Speaker 5: With that being said, then do you think that this
Speaker 5: is a game where maybe instead of moving CD into
Speaker 5: the slot as often as they do, then maybe you
Speaker 5: keep them on the outside on the outs. Going up
Speaker 5: the middle might be a bit of a challenge with
Speaker 5: the safeties in the black corner, I think so.
Speaker 3: To me, it's I I try and find as many
Speaker 3: times as I can get my guys on. Sutton number one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the guy that I would and you know, like
Speaker 3: we'll see, we'll see if there's any rust, uh. You know,
Speaker 3: with Jacob's coming back, he's still with a hamstring injury,
Speaker 3: and but they've had a lot of guys come through
Speaker 3: and try and help and play the position. It just
Speaker 3: hasn't probably worked out well for them. But I would
Speaker 3: be very mindful of these safeties and their nickel. That's
Speaker 3: who I would try and kind of stay away from
Speaker 3: it if I could.
Speaker 5: Yeah, the other thing you could consider there is if
Speaker 5: you know that they they're stronger there, they may also
Speaker 5: you may want to kind of occupy them with CD
Speaker 5: and then take advantage of the outside with cooks and
Speaker 5: and maybe this is a game where Gallup can get
Speaker 5: more involved you take some shots down field. If you
Speaker 5: can get the safeties to really be preoccupied with CD
Speaker 5: in the middle of the field, there might be some
Speaker 5: opportunities there as well.
Speaker 3: Well if they're not blitzing.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, right, because they've lit like one third of
Speaker 8: the time. Yeah, but they play a lot of single
Speaker 8: high because they also like to play a lot of own.
Speaker 8: So the key for them for the Cowboys in order
Speaker 8: to exploit the downfield opportunities is you got to figure
Speaker 8: out a way to pick up those blitz packages. And
Speaker 8: then even outside of the blitz packages. You're talking about
Speaker 8: a deferent defensive line that features eight and Hutchinson, right,
Speaker 8: So you got to be stout in your past protection
Speaker 8: Fingers crossed. The turning Smith is back for this game
Speaker 8: because this is one where they're definitely going to need him.
Speaker 8: But if you can pick up those blitzes and you
Speaker 8: can win your one on one matchups as far as
Speaker 8: you're a starting offensive lineman, then yeah, the shots are
Speaker 8: going to be there. I love the idea of keeping
Speaker 8: CD more so to the outside because Brian is right
Speaker 8: soon he's a liability. Those other guys they are much
Speaker 8: stickier as far as their hands are concerned, and they
Speaker 8: are much better in coverage, so the slightest mistake turns
Speaker 8: into an interception. These guys do take the ball away
Speaker 8: pretty well in the air, and it's evenly dispersed between
Speaker 8: those camera Sutton notwithstanding those other guys, three interceptions here,
Speaker 8: three there, four there, So it's it's a pretty stout unit.
Speaker 8: And those safeties play play very well, so keep them
Speaker 8: playing forward. But that means you also need to establish
Speaker 8: the run. This is a game where you need to
Speaker 8: make sure that your run is your run game is solid.
Speaker 8: So it would be key how the Cowboys handle the
Speaker 8: ric o'dowdle situation and do they rest him. It's Malie
Speaker 8: Davis up. Do you get more reps to Hunter lip Key?
Speaker 8: Forgive him for that fumble that happened, because he had
Speaker 8: two third down conversions on that same drive, so at
Speaker 8: least he's coming in and then they had the pass
Speaker 8: to him as well, so they got him active in
Speaker 8: the past game as well.
Speaker 2: You gotta forgive sooner.
Speaker 8: Chris keep them off balance.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you the metric that stood out, and I
Speaker 3: know we all like to look at the metric. The
Speaker 3: one that stood out for me in this game, come
Speaker 3: in the matchup is this team's only giving up five
Speaker 3: touchdowns playing zone coverage this year. That's the thing about it.
Speaker 3: And they play at sixty seven percent of the time.
Speaker 3: It's the third fewest in the NFL. So we'll see
Speaker 3: if they if they if Dallas could take advantage of
Speaker 3: I did a study too. I'm going to break it
Speaker 3: out one day of Dak versus zone coverage, man coverage,
Speaker 3: split safeties and all that. I just got to type
Speaker 3: it all up and I'll send it to you.
Speaker 2: Can't wait.
Speaker 5: All right, let's take our first break when we come back.
Speaker 5: I want to talk about the player on their defense
Speaker 5: that I think is probably the most dynamic Aiden Hutchinson.
Speaker 5: We'll get a scout and report on him and see
Speaker 5: where he matches up and maybe could be a problem
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Speaker 5: let's jump back in. Let's talk about Aiden Hudginson. Give
Speaker 5: me a scattery report on this guy. What does he
Speaker 5: do well and where is he? A bit of a
Speaker 5: where can you challenge him?
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a pain in the rear for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 3: It really does start with their defensive lineup front, and
Speaker 3: he's the main one. He's the guy that you absolutely
Speaker 3: have to deal with. Here's a guy that's he's got
Speaker 3: a long, tall frame. He could tower over guys. You
Speaker 3: watch him play, Gosh, he just looks like he's so
Speaker 3: damn big out there, but he plays with range. He's
Speaker 3: all over the field. He's always working towards the action.
Speaker 3: He has a true nose for the football. He's got
Speaker 3: really good hand techniques. He's got some upper body, elite
Speaker 3: upper body strength, twitchy in the way when I talk
Speaker 3: about twitching that quick movement to get off blocks. He's
Speaker 3: got a variety of pass rush moves and strategies. He
Speaker 3: looks like he has a plan when he rushes the passer.
Speaker 3: He's tremendous lower body flexibility. He can put himself in
Speaker 3: a variety of positions when you know top still maintaining
Speaker 3: top speed and quickness. You're gonna need to account to
Speaker 3: this guy. This is the most important thing about this guy.
Speaker 3: You're gonna need to account for him throughout the echo
Speaker 3: of the whistle. Because this guy doesn't stop. The minute
Speaker 3: you stop, he's going and now all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: your quarterback's running around back. He gets more pressures and
Speaker 3: sacks when the plays going on and on and on
Speaker 3: and on, and then all of a sudden, everybody quits
Speaker 3: but him, and now it's a pressure or a sack.
Speaker 3: That's just the way that he plays the game. So
Speaker 3: I'm I think that this is going to be the
Speaker 3: critical point of dealing with the Blitzes, but also his ability,
Speaker 3: the Cowboys ability whether he plays left or right. They'll
Speaker 3: move him around in these in these games, but they
Speaker 3: need to find a way to account for him at
Speaker 3: all times and make sure that you were locked up
Speaker 3: with him as the whistle's blowing, because if you don't,
Speaker 3: he will find a way to outwork you and get
Speaker 3: to the ball.
Speaker 5: Where is he lineup most off left? And okay, and
Speaker 5: who do you expect? Like, how does he match up?
Speaker 5: If you walk me through Tyler, I mean, I'm sorry, Tyron,
Speaker 5: and walk me through Tuma. How does he work best
Speaker 5: against them? And what can they do against him?
Speaker 3: Steel? He's gonna play the majority of snaps, likely against
Speaker 3: steal is what he's going to deal with there, and
Speaker 3: so you have to be ready for that matchup there
Speaker 3: if he's against Tuma. Then you know the thing with
Speaker 3: Tuma the other day, and I know that everybody's freaking
Speaker 3: out about Tuma, but when you watch the All twenty
Speaker 3: two and we were just talking about in the break,
Speaker 3: the metrics was saying thirty nine pass dropbacks and three pressures.
Speaker 3: That's that was his metrics in that game. You know,
Speaker 3: the mental mistakes were the biggest issue in that football game.
Speaker 3: But what the thing will the thing that that that
Speaker 3: that Hutchinson will do is if you're not quick out
Speaker 3: of your stance and quick to get to him, if
Speaker 3: you just kind of set soft on him, he will
Speaker 3: throw moves, moves, but he keeps coming at you. And
Speaker 3: and the thing with Tyron Smith is Tyron Smith is different.
Speaker 3: As we all know. He's so big and so when
Speaker 3: he kicks out and he just and then he sets
Speaker 3: in his hands and now he stops a guy like Hutchinson.
Speaker 3: You know, you that's the one thing is Hutchinson will
Speaker 3: keep moving as long as you let him keep moving.
Speaker 3: You know, the minute you set on him and punch
Speaker 3: him and make him You saw the vikings in this game. Hockinson,
Speaker 3: the tight end, was trying to chip him. They just
Speaker 3: kept trying to chip him because they were trying to
Speaker 3: get him to stop. Yep, you know. And that's the
Speaker 3: best way to play him. To me, if you don't
Speaker 3: feel like you're good enough on the outside to handle
Speaker 3: him one on one, just keep chipping him, make him
Speaker 3: make him start stop, start, stop, start, stop the whole game,
Speaker 3: and that way that'll keep him, you know, keep him
Speaker 3: off your passer. But of course you're going to have
Speaker 3: a better opportunity if he goes over and rushes with
Speaker 3: Smith is going to be able to hand him. Steele
Speaker 3: is probably going to need a little help. You know.
Speaker 3: Steele has got the athletic ability, but Steele doesn't have
Speaker 3: I think Steele could get broken down easier like Steve
Speaker 3: if he's not good with his hands, and this guy
Speaker 3: will like swatch your hands, push your hands, push you.
Speaker 3: Like I say, there's a lot of pass rush technique
Speaker 3: in the way that he goes, so he could break
Speaker 3: you down pretty well. But if I'm Dallas, I'm finding
Speaker 3: a way to Sometimes you see Ferguson, Jack Ferguson, chip
Speaker 3: the edge, chip the edge, then go out in the route.
Speaker 3: I think that's going to be a necessary plan this
Speaker 3: week for Hutchinson.
Speaker 5: What does the middle of their defensive front look like
Speaker 5: from a pass rush and a run defense.
Speaker 3: That they really don't let you run the ball all
Speaker 3: that much, but their offense scores a lot of points.
Speaker 3: So they're like the Cowboys in the way where you
Speaker 3: get behind in the game and you don't run the
Speaker 3: ball anymore because you're chasing points. But what they are
Speaker 3: is they are really really big inside. Benito Jones and
Speaker 3: Isaiah Bugs. Their defensive tackle. Jones is like six to one,
Speaker 3: but he's super wide and he does a lot of
Speaker 3: the dirty work inside for the Lions. They can anchor
Speaker 3: on double teams. They hustle. They got some sneaky speed
Speaker 3: to these guys, and they move them along the line
Speaker 3: of scrimmage. Bugs the same way. Massive man three point
Speaker 3: thirty keeps his feet moving, kind of head up, locate
Speaker 3: the ball, you know, just gonna push the middle of
Speaker 3: the pocket, like I say, they're gonna push you. But
Speaker 3: here here comes linebacker Blitz and Zelony linebacker Blitz. We
Speaker 3: were talking to Zach Martin yesterday and he brought up
Speaker 3: Alex and Zeloni the linebacker and how much these guys blitz,
Speaker 3: And so that's where you're gonna that's all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: you get that middle push, but now you get guys
Speaker 3: occupied and they're not coming off and getting picking up
Speaker 3: blitzing linebackers or blitzing secondary guys. So that's that's something
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to do with. This is the size
Speaker 3: of the two guys being both being about three hundred
Speaker 3: and thirty pounds.
Speaker 5: How would you best offset their blitz?
Speaker 3: Well, well, the one thing that you've one thing is
Speaker 3: the recognition of it first, you know, would be the
Speaker 3: thing that I would make sure that you know. And
Speaker 3: I think Dak's got to help you a little bit
Speaker 3: too here, you know. I mean they had a sack
Speaker 3: the other day where and I don't know why Dak
Speaker 3: did this, he moved Pollard from the left to the
Speaker 3: right and sent him into the flat and then the
Speaker 3: blitzer came from his left, whereas if he just left
Speaker 3: Pollard there, pick up the blitz, account for the blitz.
Speaker 3: Everything that I'm doing, I'm trying to help to if
Speaker 3: in fact, in fact it's a doga. I'm helping everything
Speaker 3: to his side. I'm just I'm just I'm just assuming
Speaker 3: that you know, it's not going to get picked up.
Speaker 3: It's just I mean, I'm just assuming that. So I'm
Speaker 3: just making sure if it's setting back or this the
Speaker 3: communication about making sure that they're they slide or pick
Speaker 3: up the right guys. I think they had to have
Speaker 3: worked on all this all week. I mean really worked
Speaker 3: on it all week when it comes to because you
Speaker 3: watch the Lions play, it is it is about that pressure.
Speaker 3: It's not you know, last week you see four man
Speaker 3: line pressure. This one you see the pressure from the linebacker.
Speaker 3: Like I say, Angeloni, he's the of off ball linebackers.
Speaker 3: He's like the second most pressures in the league, you know,
Speaker 3: blitzing guys. So you got to be ready for this one.
Speaker 3: And but I would make sure that that you got
Speaker 3: the offensive lineman and all on the same page. But
Speaker 3: also to be careful about moving backs away from potential blitzers.
Speaker 3: You know, I'd keep I'd keep it back to anzelone's
Speaker 3: side there just in case you do see that rush.
Speaker 8: And there's also ways to make them pay for linebacker blitzes. Obviously,
Speaker 8: first you want to recognize it and make sure that
Speaker 8: the protection is there for it. But you know, your
Speaker 8: screens get get more effective at the screen game have
Speaker 8: like emergency, the little valves that you can pull in
Speaker 8: case of emergency. For example, if there's a blitz coming, okay,
Speaker 8: well maybe you should have somebody in the flat just
Speaker 8: in case. Maybe you should have a quick slant in place,
Speaker 8: just in case, because if that's if it's the mic
Speaker 8: that's blitzing, then ideally your slide on, a quick slant
Speaker 8: should be right there for you for the quick hit,
Speaker 8: so you know, acknowledge it, recognize it, make sure your
Speaker 8: protections line up. And then of course if you're back pollared,
Speaker 8: if it's Rico, Malik, whoever the case may be, make
Speaker 8: sure maybe they get a chip before they head out.
Speaker 8: But yeah, you can do that in the quick passing
Speaker 8: game as well.
Speaker 3: Brian Baldinger and I were talking about, yes, Sir on
Speaker 3: our show and you know Baldy NFL Network, and he
Speaker 3: was talking about I was asking about the hot throws,
Speaker 3: you know, and he says, I don't see teams hot
Speaker 3: throw anymore. Nate Newton last night on the show was
Speaker 3: talking about Dave Campo brought it up hot throws and stuff.
Speaker 3: There were a couple of times where it looked like
Speaker 3: to me, Cooks looked for the ball. Yep, first look
Speaker 3: for the ball and the throw wasn't there. So hot
Speaker 3: packages are as old as Pop Warner playing football. You know,
Speaker 3: when somebody blitzes, you just replace it. You just sort
Speaker 3: of the ball and get it out. So maybe that's
Speaker 3: something that last week was that they missed on. Maybe
Speaker 3: it's something this week you pick up on. If they're
Speaker 3: gonna see blitzers, those guys got to look for the
Speaker 3: ball and facts got.
Speaker 2: To hit them to get their vacated spot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, we're gonna take a final break. When
Speaker 5: we come back, I want to talk a little bit
Speaker 5: about the Dallas offense and one question I have for
Speaker 5: you guys will revolve around Tyler Smith and Tyron Smith
Speaker 5: and should the Cowboys really be making some considerations about
Speaker 5: whether it's a good thing to move Tyler Smith out
Speaker 5: to left tackle in the event that Tyron Smith is
Speaker 5: still not able to play. We'll talk about that when
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Speaker 5: let's talk about Tyron Smith and Tyler Smith. We've talked
Speaker 5: about this a few times. I know, we've talked about
Speaker 5: this a few times this year, and I think it's
Speaker 5: a worthy conversation at this point based on the fact
Speaker 5: that last week, as you said, Chulmann didn't have as
Speaker 5: bad a game as that Trick thinks he had.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I was watching the tape and
Speaker 3: I was like, and people were losing their mind, and
Speaker 3: I'm like, when, guys, I don't think it was that bad.
Speaker 3: I'm sitting right. And I went through and I did
Speaker 3: plus minus plus minus I kind of six overall minuses
Speaker 3: that I thought and three of them were just mental mistakes. Right.
Speaker 3: But that's the physical the physical part of him passing
Speaker 3: stunts and picking up guys and cutting off guys, that
Speaker 3: part wasn't a problem. It's the problem. It's just like
Speaker 3: the it's like when you bust, when you have a
Speaker 3: mental bust, and it just it just wrecks the play
Speaker 3: at the worst time. That's where you're at, right, and
Speaker 3: that's where you're at.
Speaker 5: And that's the part quite frankly for me, when you're
Speaker 5: talking about a left tackle is most worse him because
Speaker 5: when you just choose not to pick up Chubb, that's
Speaker 5: how you get your quarterback injured exactly. Those are the
Speaker 5: those are the type situations that put you in a
Speaker 5: much worse situation than just a sack. And that's why
Speaker 5: I'm like, I think the conversation is warranted. Should you
Speaker 5: put a more capable person in Tyler Smith out there
Speaker 5: as opposed to Chuma Edoga because he's more capable to
Speaker 5: take care of the blind side of your.
Speaker 3: Court and play basket left guard and pay and play
Speaker 3: basket left guard. Y see the the the radio guy
Speaker 3: in me says, absolutely do that. And then but you know,
Speaker 3: the those guys sitting in that thing, they they do
Speaker 3: not want to move. I get it, they do. They
Speaker 3: absolutely do not want to move Tyler Smith. We all,
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sorry, I don't mean to speak for you.
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like though, as a group, we're saying, yeah, put,
Speaker 3: we've seen Tyler Smith play at a very high level
Speaker 3: at left tackle. What is the problem. Put? Him out there.
Speaker 3: There's something over we're on that side of the building,
Speaker 3: and it and and there. It's their job, it's their job.
Speaker 3: It's our job to talk about it, their job to
Speaker 3: execute it. And there's something fundamentally, and it might go
Speaker 3: back to Jerry Jones's belief when I did work with
Speaker 3: them in scouting that how important the inside three are
Speaker 3: for him. You know, he learned somebody in his journey
Speaker 3: in the NFL, Al Davis John Madden. Somebody told Jerry
Speaker 3: Jones about having the front of the pocket firm. And
Speaker 3: he believes that with all his heart. You know, he
Speaker 3: believes that if a quarterback can step up, he has
Speaker 3: a chance to throw. Quarterbacks should be able to handle
Speaker 3: stuff off the edge. It's the stuff in the middle
Speaker 3: of their face that they can't handle. And they, as
Speaker 3: they fundamentally do not believe moving Tyler Smith is a
Speaker 3: good move for that.
Speaker 7: See, no one's going to agree with me on this one.
Speaker 7: But how do you leave with that because we already
Speaker 7: kind of talked about.
Speaker 3: It during the break.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, but I don't know what he's going to agree.
Speaker 7: But if it was up to me, and I'm the
Speaker 7: head coach and I'm sitting in this situation, and I
Speaker 7: know we're in the playoffs, that's a fact you're going
Speaker 7: to go in there. And I know the struggles that
Speaker 7: the O line is having, regardless of the stats and
Speaker 7: all of that. I think you want to give yourself.
Speaker 7: You want to give the quarterback the best protection that
Speaker 7: you possibly can. And we saw the way that Dak
Speaker 7: played in that game. Whatever it was. Mentally, he wasn't
Speaker 7: really being his usual self. But if it's up to
Speaker 7: me tiring and sitting, he's watching from the bench, sitting
Speaker 7: resting his back. I need him full health for the postseason.
Speaker 7: I get it. A win is important. You don't want
Speaker 7: to turn it into a three game losing streak. That's huge,
Speaker 7: But I'm I care more about the playoffs and giving
Speaker 7: ourselves the best chance possible to go out there and
Speaker 7: compete and have health all in the A line. So
Speaker 7: I would make the change, And this is definitely not
Speaker 7: going to happen, but I would sit tiring make the
Speaker 7: change that you're talking about, Derek, because then that gives
Speaker 7: you two games of getting a good look of like, Okay,
Speaker 7: what can this possibly look at? Worst case scenario emergency
Speaker 7: plan if tying at some point in the game or
Speaker 7: whatever reason, it's not able to go. You take him out. Okay,
Speaker 7: emergency plan goes into effect. But you cannot just ran
Speaker 7: randomly just move the guy, move Tyler, and just expect
Speaker 7: because we've seen it kind of before where they do
Speaker 7: switch in, you know, and play musical chair. We've seen
Speaker 7: that happen and it hasn't been terrible. But you don't
Speaker 7: want to just do that out of nowhere and expect
Speaker 7: it to or just fully rely on that plan working
Speaker 7: for you. So I would take these two games to
Speaker 7: get get a good look at that. But nothing I'm
Speaker 7: saying matters at all because it is absolutely not going
Speaker 7: to well. To Bruce, that's what I would do, But
Speaker 7: also that's why I'm not a head coach.
Speaker 8: To Bryn's point, it also when it comes to Jerry
Speaker 8: and also McCarthy as well, they don't like to move
Speaker 8: two pieces to solve one problem, and it also goes
Speaker 8: to that as well. That being said, you could speak
Speaker 8: for me on this one because I've been on this train.
Speaker 8: When Tyron missed the first couple games or so, I
Speaker 8: was like, just pop Tyler Tyler Smith back out there.
Speaker 8: Cowboys who're like Nope, we're not gonna do it. Tyrn
Speaker 8: missed more games. I was like, just pop Tyler Smith
Speaker 8: back out there, and like, Nope, they're not going to
Speaker 8: do it. So, like Brian said, this, this organization, this
Speaker 8: coaching staff, this front office, they are hell bent on
Speaker 8: keeping Tyler Smith that left guard. I if I were
Speaker 8: the coach, which is your question, I would in fact
Speaker 8: pop Tyler Smith out to the left tackle and put TJ.
Speaker 8: Bass at guard. Because we're also talking about the blind side.
Speaker 8: We're not because both sides are not created equal, right,
Speaker 8: So you got friends side, you got blindside. You if
Speaker 8: your left tackle is missing assignments against a guy like
Speaker 8: Bradley Chubb and key situations blind side, that's a very
Speaker 8: dangerous situation. That's more dangerous than just the play being
Speaker 8: disrupted or blown up. You might not have a quarterback
Speaker 8: after that. So you got to account for that as well.
Speaker 8: And we talk about it, and it's true that the
Speaker 8: interior three are more so important than the outside lineman.
Speaker 8: But then the question becomes what's the talent drop off?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 8: Is there a bigger talent drop off from Tyron to
Speaker 8: Tuma versus Tyler Smith to TJ Bass or is it
Speaker 8: the best? You see what I'm saying, you have to
Speaker 8: put that into the value equation as well.
Speaker 2: And I think when you.
Speaker 7: Look at it also, the which side is more important?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 8: But when you look at it like that and you
Speaker 8: start looking at where's the biggest talent drop off? Then
Speaker 8: I still I definitely say Tyler out there, and because
Speaker 8: there's a shorter drop off from Tyron to Tyler at
Speaker 8: left tackle than there is from Tyron to Tuma. So
Speaker 8: all of that, but I don't agree. I think you
Speaker 8: played Tyron Smith this game and you wrest him against
Speaker 8: the Commanders. Yeah, that's when you put this into play
Speaker 8: risk takers.
Speaker 7: Not me. I'm playing it safe.
Speaker 3: I would planned.
Speaker 8: Risk a three game losing straight, three of the best
Speaker 8: teams in the league. What does that do for your
Speaker 8: momentum and your morale one week away? Because after this game,
Speaker 8: you have one week away from good They don't play
Speaker 8: well on the road. So who says you going to
Speaker 8: Washington and win that game? So now you're risking nope,
Speaker 8: get to win.
Speaker 3: Who let me ask you this? Have you given up
Speaker 3: winning the division?
Speaker 2: Sounds like she has?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, no, no, no, I'm asking because I'm just
Speaker 3: your decision, what you're doing.
Speaker 7: That's a fair point.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no, I'm asking you this way.
Speaker 3: I'm asking because if you believe that eighty six percent,
Speaker 3: if you look at playoff probabilities and all that, that
Speaker 3: you're going to be the fifth seed, absolutely do what
Speaker 3: you're talking about doing. If you're locked into being the
Speaker 3: fifth seed, absolutely do what you're you're talking about doing,
Speaker 3: Reus Tyrant Smith. But if you have a just you,
Speaker 3: it's also you got to keep playing until they say
Speaker 3: you're the fifth seed. Because if you if there's a
Speaker 3: chance that you can and again it's a slim one,
Speaker 3: but you got to keep playing. You got to keep
Speaker 3: winning and hope that something happens in Philadelphia where you
Speaker 3: win the division or you know, or you can get
Speaker 3: the second seat. I would hate to rest Tyron Smith
Speaker 3: and then lose a game. But if you feel like
Speaker 3: if you feel like that, no, it's eighty six percent,
Speaker 3: we're locked in that odds are too much for us. Yes,
Speaker 3: let's rest them.
Speaker 7: I totally understand how important is Tyron Smith in the
Speaker 7: playoffs for.
Speaker 3: You, huge, He's huge, more than but but but I
Speaker 3: got it. I got to try and get a home game.
Speaker 3: I got to try and get to the second seat
Speaker 3: because the second seed to be the second seed.
Speaker 7: Okay, different question, home game or Tyron Smith have you seen.
Speaker 2: Question?
Speaker 3: Would answer that question.
Speaker 5: But if I don't have much better at home without
Speaker 5: road with Tyrons.
Speaker 7: Okay, Now with that being said, that argument can convince
Speaker 7: convince me a lot more than yes, because yeah, absolutely
Speaker 7: will take the home games.
Speaker 3: See to me, if you're if you're the two seeds,
Speaker 3: somehow you're playing Seattle at home again, I'll take my chance.
Speaker 3: I mean, I know it was a I know we
Speaker 3: all were hold on to our rear game, but I
Speaker 3: mean it was you know, you gotta win, you know,
Speaker 3: all right, y'all convince me.
Speaker 5: I'll even complicate this just a little bit more. Listen
Speaker 5: to what you said, Bro about the linebackers and the blitzer.
Speaker 5: I think maybe this is not the game where you'd
Speaker 5: maybe want to move Tyler out because if you've got
Speaker 5: linebackers coming out the middle and you haven't adapt to that,
Speaker 5: I may think, Hey, this is a game where I
Speaker 5: really need my interior to stay as consistent as possible.
Speaker 5: And they know each other, they know how to adapt
Speaker 5: to different things that may be coming at them and
Speaker 5: in one more week. Let's let's also be clear, like
Speaker 5: Chuma wasn't bad when he played earlier in the season,
Speaker 5: he had some bad moments in this last game. My
Speaker 5: expectation is coming out of going into this game, he'll
Speaker 5: probably be a little bit better. And and that being said,
Speaker 5: I'd rather keep everything as consistent as possible. Well, when
Speaker 5: I'm playing a team that's going to send a lot
Speaker 5: of different pressure in a lot of different ways.
Speaker 3: You need to be better too. And last week was
Speaker 3: unfortunate because your center wasn't better. Your center, your centers,
Speaker 3: your center's been good. And you know he earlier he
Speaker 3: had some moments where he wasn't good and then he
Speaker 3: kind of found himself and playing a lot better and
Speaker 3: they you know, they're running the ball and all that.
Speaker 3: Last week he wasn't as good as he needed to be,
Speaker 3: and so we're kind of focusing on Tuma. But the
Speaker 3: center wasn't great either, and that that that's that's an
Speaker 3: issue when you're talking about it.
Speaker 7: So excited about him this year, just going back to training, fine,
Speaker 7: it's just it's just every time amazing.
Speaker 3: Sometimes it reverts back where he gets overpowered and and
Speaker 3: you know, and struggles with the blocks and sustain and things.
Speaker 3: But I mean, that's you could say that about a
Speaker 3: lot of centers. But when the Cowboys are bad on
Speaker 3: the offensive line, it's generally they're bad at a couple
Speaker 3: of spots. It's center and right, and that's that's where
Speaker 3: they've kind of they've had their struggles.
Speaker 5: I had a question for you guys. This comes from
Speaker 5: Shoes and Sports on Twitter. He says, why haven't Why
Speaker 5: haven't we seen more of Awesome Richards?
Speaker 8: That's a good guy on Twitter, by the way, good guy.
Speaker 8: That is a very good question, very good question.
Speaker 5: Should should we be seeing more of him?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 8: I think for this one, I'd have to defer to
Speaker 8: the coaching staff and assume they're seeing something that we're
Speaker 8: not seeing that has them, I'm not gonna say shook,
Speaker 8: but not exactly as confident as they would be or
Speaker 8: feel like they should be at this point in the season,
Speaker 8: because in a game like you know, you saw against
Speaker 8: the Dolphins, Tuma not struggling physically, but struggling with his
Speaker 8: decision making. If you're confident and Awesome, maybe Awesome starts
Speaker 8: that game right, but you've not really seen I mean,
Speaker 8: we're going into week seventeen and you've not really seen
Speaker 8: awsome Richards get you know, much of any playing time,
Speaker 8: even with injuries at that position. So I just I
Speaker 8: feel like there's something there that they see that we're
Speaker 8: not seeing that would answer the question.
Speaker 2: But we just don't have the answer.
Speaker 3: Coaches do not want to play a rookie player if
Speaker 3: they don't have to. I mean there's I mean, in
Speaker 3: this in this day and age, sometimes you have to
Speaker 3: plug and play guys and go. But they would they
Speaker 3: would rather remember a doga, a Dooka was we thought
Speaker 3: was a better guard than he was at tackle. I
Speaker 3: mean there were times of training camp at tackle you
Speaker 3: were going, oh geez, moving back inside. Yeah, and awesome.
Speaker 3: There's sometimes are awesome, looks great and other times looks
Speaker 3: like he's in a revolving door. You know, he's just
Speaker 3: getting kind of knocked around and all that. You know.
Speaker 3: I mean, you just gotta coaches will go with what
Speaker 3: they know. And as much as they were saw what
Speaker 3: they saw with a Doga, they know what a doga
Speaker 3: can do. That's what they did.
Speaker 8: It's so much youth there between Richards and then well
Speaker 8: let's go and you know, let's go second, your guy,
Speaker 8: but you gotta wonder if if his shoulders can can
Speaker 8: hold up. They say, so, it's like, wow, just get
Speaker 8: in stay healthy for the next several weeks time, and
Speaker 8: that's really all you can hope for.
Speaker 7: Well, it's crazy. We have Sorry what we started the
Speaker 7: season kind of talking about the old line and all
Speaker 7: from the beginning. I mean, we've gone through we're coming
Speaker 7: near the end of the season, and we spent pretty
Speaker 7: much all season talking about something about the O line.
Speaker 3: For seven health lives, real health for seven. For seven weeks.
Speaker 3: It really held together.
Speaker 7: Well despite all the health concerned because even when they
Speaker 7: were in there playing, we all know they were still
Speaker 7: dealing with everybody with something. And it's been just a
Speaker 7: I'm talking about yeah, just health strictly, people dealing with
Speaker 7: stuff in the O line and the way that they've
Speaker 7: managed to hold up and get as many wins as
Speaker 7: they have. Now the running game does I feel it's
Speaker 7: taken a hit because it hasn't really been that great,
Speaker 7: but just yeah, we made it this far and now
Speaker 7: we're here.
Speaker 2: Well, look we.
Speaker 8: Got we're coming off of the absence in Miami, you know,
Speaker 8: not coming that one, but we're coming off of the
Speaker 8: tyrone Smith having played seven consecutive games, so he played
Speaker 8: all five in November and then he played two to
Speaker 8: start December. If he comes back this week or maybe
Speaker 8: next week, he comes back this week, then maybe we
Speaker 8: get six consecutive games because they get you. Yeah, you
Speaker 8: see what you're going with that, right, So you don't
Speaker 8: need seven. My point is you don't need seven straight
Speaker 8: games from him anymore this season. Five or six, five
Speaker 8: or six consecutive games of health and your offensive lines
Speaker 8: should should be okay.
Speaker 3: And you're just being held hostage right now. Yeah we are.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're so you need him so badly, and
Speaker 3: yet you just when you pray to the football gods
Speaker 3: that please let him be healthy today because you just
Speaker 3: got to have him. You just don't know from day
Speaker 3: to day, and you just don't know. He might he
Speaker 3: might be sitting in that airplane seat flying to Washington
Speaker 3: and then the back tighten up on him and you're like, okay,
Speaker 3: well here we go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, all right, appreciate you guys. Jon us
Speaker 5: back tomorrow. We'll wrap this thing up. Let you know
Speaker 5: what thing is gonna happen Saturday night, Cowboys versus Lions
Speaker 5: till then for Patrick Walker, Brian brought us in Amber Garcia.
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