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Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go.

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Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 5: Are you ready for a break?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Ready for a break?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and so much for that.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: right with Ambar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Patrick Walker, and

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Speaker 1: Derek Eagleton.

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Speaker 5: It is Thursday, December twenty eight, twenty twenty three, Season nineteen,

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Speaker 5: episode number ninety seven. Welcome to the latest edition of

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Speaker 5: The Break. We are live.

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Speaker 7: Happy birthday too, Hey, join in, guys, leave me by myself.

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Speaker 5: They're turning tame.

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Speaker 3: Christmas Dayrek, big birthday.

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Speaker 6: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I want to say it. I've always take.

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Speaker 5: Fifty one right, fifty one fifty one. I have rounded

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Speaker 5: the corner and I'm heading towards sixty. I guess you know,

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Speaker 5: never goes back. I was gonna go forward, but.

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Speaker 3: I figured I'm gonna start going backwards.

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Speaker 2: Now, how's that going to be?

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Speaker 3: Next Birch Benjamin Franklin, say, Benjamin, but gonna start at sixty.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna try and make it

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Speaker 3: till thirty.

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Speaker 2: She hit pause. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: True, I guess you could do.

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Speaker 7: That on my body, right man. I'm telling you I

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Speaker 7: was wrapping up presents on the ground the other day

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Speaker 7: before Christmas and my back no afterwards, I've been My

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Speaker 7: back has been hurting like on an old lady all week.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so not literally this morning when I was up

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Speaker 5: to a department right right when I got this morning,

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Speaker 5: I was like thinking, like, oh man, taking inventory. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: I got a bum toe, I got a bum knee,

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Speaker 5: I got a bum ham string, I gotta bum lower back.

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Speaker 5: Like it's just like everything is breaking down. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: that's what age does. Yeah, but I ain't stopping. I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna keep going. I'm gonna keep going. To the wheels

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Speaker 5: fall off.

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Speaker 8: When you get up off the bed and it sounds

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Speaker 8: like somebody's making popcorn.

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Speaker 2: Everything starts popping.

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Speaker 8: Ankle pop twice, the knee pops you stretch, and the

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Speaker 8: backs that pop pop pop is like, okay, over written boker,

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Speaker 8: but it's better than the alternative.

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Speaker 2: Exactly.

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Speaker 7: Well. Your is good, your rib is good, your you

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Speaker 7: know spring Yeah, yeah, you keep up with your running and.

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Speaker 2: Everybody still running eighty miles a morning.

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Speaker 7: I can't do that. And I'm earlier than you.

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Speaker 5: So I think that's gonna end. At some point my

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Speaker 5: body is starting to say, man, running stuff, you might

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Speaker 5: want to try biking, you know, Yeah, biking is fun.

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Speaker 5: It's all right, let's jump in. We got a lot

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Speaker 5: to talk about today. We're gonna talk about Detroit defense

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Speaker 5: versus the Cowboys offense. Before we get to that, though,

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Speaker 5: let's catch up on some injury updates. We've got three

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Speaker 5: guys that want to talk about Tyron Smith who did

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Speaker 5: not practice with a back injury, to Manydoga who has

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Speaker 5: a toe injury had limited participation yesterday, and then Rico

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Speaker 5: Dada with an ankle injury he did not practice. What

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Speaker 8: I think Rico is going to be hard pressed to

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Speaker 2: Help him heal up for the playoffs.

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Speaker 8: I think that gives you Elie Davis for his third

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Speaker 8: Jonathan Hankins, we talked about him yesterday. There is some

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Speaker 8: the Cowboys can exploit. We'll see, but that's a big

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Speaker 5: My memory serves correct. Yesterday, Brian and we were talking

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Speaker 5: That should be an interesting matchup for the Cowboys. And

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Speaker 5: as you said, like I really believe this game is

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Speaker 3: All right, let's jump in.

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Speaker 5: Let's talk a little bit about this this Detroit defense,

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Speaker 5: and Brian, I'm gonna start again where I started yesterday.

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Speaker 5: I want to get a big picture look, and I

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Speaker 5: Tell me what they do best and what they struggle

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Speaker 3: Well, Dak loves playing him. I think he's four and

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Speaker 3: This is we saw last week the problems that the

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Speaker 5: It sounds like they are better at the slot than

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Speaker 3: There's no question they are. That's and and you know

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Speaker 3: they they I said, they're just they're committed to playing

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Speaker 3: But man, I'll tell you what. Branch is a good

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Speaker 3: To me, it's I I try and find as many

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Speaker 5: let's jump back in. Let's talk about Aiden Hudginson. Give

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Speaker 3: if he's not good with his hands, and this guy

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Speaker 3: will like swatch your hands, push your hands, push you.

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Speaker 3: Like I say, there's a lot of pass rush technique

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Speaker 3: in the way that he goes, so he could break

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Speaker 3: you down pretty well. But if I'm Dallas, I'm finding

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Speaker 3: a way to Sometimes you see Ferguson, Jack Ferguson, chip

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Speaker 3: the edge, chip the edge, then go out in the route.

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Speaker 3: I think that's going to be a necessary plan this

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Speaker 3: week for Hutchinson.

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Speaker 5: What does the middle of their defensive front look like

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Speaker 5: from a pass rush and a run defense.

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Speaker 3: That they really don't let you run the ball all

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Speaker 3: that much, but their offense scores a lot of points.

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Speaker 3: So they're like the Cowboys in the way where you

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Speaker 3: get behind in the game and you don't run the

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Speaker 3: ball anymore because you're chasing points. But what they are

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Speaker 3: is they are really really big inside. Benito Jones and

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Speaker 3: Isaiah Bugs. Their defensive tackle. Jones is like six to one,

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Speaker 3: but he's super wide and he does a lot of

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Speaker 3: the dirty work inside for the Lions. They can anchor

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Speaker 3: on double teams. They hustle. They got some sneaky speed

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Speaker 3: to these guys, and they move them along the line

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Speaker 3: of scrimmage. Bugs the same way. Massive man three point

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Speaker 3: thirty keeps his feet moving, kind of head up, locate

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Speaker 3: the ball, you know, just gonna push the middle of

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Speaker 3: the pocket, like I say, they're gonna push you. But

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Speaker 3: here here comes linebacker Blitz and Zelony linebacker Blitz. We

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Speaker 3: were talking to Zach Martin yesterday and he brought up

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Speaker 3: Alex and Zeloni the linebacker and how much these guys blitz,

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Speaker 3: And so that's where you're gonna that's all of a sudden,

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Speaker 3: you get that middle push, but now you get guys

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Speaker 3: occupied and they're not coming off and getting picking up

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Speaker 3: blitzing linebackers or blitzing secondary guys. So that's that's something

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Speaker 3: you're gonna have to do with. This is the size

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Speaker 3: and thirty pounds.

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Speaker 5: How would you best offset their blitz?

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Speaker 3: Well, well, the one thing that you've one thing is

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Speaker 3: the recognition of it first, you know, would be the

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Speaker 3: thing that I would make sure that you know. And

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Speaker 3: I think Dak's got to help you a little bit

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Speaker 3: too here, you know. I mean they had a sack

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Speaker 3: the other day where and I don't know why Dak

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Speaker 3: did this, he moved Pollard from the left to the

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Speaker 3: right and sent him into the flat and then the

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Speaker 3: blitzer came from his left, whereas if he just left

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Speaker 3: Pollard there, pick up the blitz, account for the blitz.

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Speaker 3: Everything that I'm doing, I'm trying to help to if

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Speaker 3: in fact, in fact it's a doga. I'm helping everything

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Speaker 3: to his side. I'm just I'm just I'm just assuming

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Speaker 3: that you know, it's not going to get picked up.

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Speaker 3: It's just I mean, I'm just assuming that. So I'm

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Speaker 3: just making sure if it's setting back or this the

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Speaker 3: communication about making sure that they're they slide or pick

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Speaker 3: up the right guys. I think they had to have

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Speaker 3: worked on all this all week. I mean really worked

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Speaker 3: on it all week when it comes to because you

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Speaker 3: watch the Lions play, it is it is about that pressure.

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Speaker 3: It's not you know, last week you see four man

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Speaker 3: line pressure. This one you see the pressure from the linebacker.

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Speaker 3: Like I say, Angeloni, he's the of off ball linebackers.

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Speaker 3: He's like the second most pressures in the league, you know,

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Speaker 3: blitzing guys. So you got to be ready for this one.

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Speaker 3: And but I would make sure that that you got

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Speaker 3: the offensive lineman and all on the same page. But

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Speaker 3: also to be careful about moving backs away from potential blitzers.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'd keep I'd keep it back to anzelone's

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Speaker 3: side there just in case you do see that rush.

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Speaker 8: And there's also ways to make them pay for linebacker blitzes. Obviously,

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Speaker 8: first you want to recognize it and make sure that

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Speaker 8: the protection is there for it. But you know, your

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Speaker 8: screens get get more effective at the screen game have

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Speaker 8: like emergency, the little valves that you can pull in

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Speaker 8: case of emergency. For example, if there's a blitz coming, okay,

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Speaker 8: well maybe you should have somebody in the flat just

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Speaker 8: in case. Maybe you should have a quick slant in place,

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Speaker 8: just in case, because if that's if it's the mic

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Speaker 8: that's blitzing, then ideally your slide on, a quick slant

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Speaker 8: should be right there for you for the quick hit,

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Speaker 8: so you know, acknowledge it, recognize it, make sure your

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Speaker 8: protections line up. And then of course if you're back pollared,

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Speaker 8: if it's Rico, Malik, whoever the case may be, make

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Speaker 8: sure maybe they get a chip before they head out.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, you can do that in the quick passing

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Speaker 8: game as well.

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Speaker 3: Brian Baldinger and I were talking about, yes, Sir on

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Speaker 3: our show and you know Baldy NFL Network, and he

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Speaker 3: was talking about I was asking about the hot throws,

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Speaker 3: you know, and he says, I don't see teams hot

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Speaker 3: throw anymore. Nate Newton last night on the show was

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Speaker 3: talking about Dave Campo brought it up hot throws and stuff.

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Speaker 3: There were a couple of times where it looked like

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Speaker 3: to me, Cooks looked for the ball. Yep, first look

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Speaker 3: for the ball and the throw wasn't there. So hot

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Speaker 3: packages are as old as Pop Warner playing football. You know,

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Speaker 3: when somebody blitzes, you just replace it. You just sort

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Speaker 3: of the ball and get it out. So maybe that's

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Speaker 3: something that last week was that they missed on. Maybe

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Speaker 3: it's something this week you pick up on. If they're

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Speaker 3: gonna see blitzers, those guys got to look for the

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, we're gonna take a final break. When

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Speaker 5: about the Dallas offense and one question I have for

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Speaker 5: you guys will revolve around Tyler Smith and Tyron Smith

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Speaker 5: and should the Cowboys really be making some considerations about

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Speaker 3: We have a fan.

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Speaker 5: We won like for the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Didn't we I kind of wonder if any don't think

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Speaker 2: Our fan base.

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Speaker 5: We need all of our fans to turn out and

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Speaker 5: vote for the guy because because you know another teams.

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Speaker 5: By the way, any team is going to just vote

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Speaker 3: That's how there's no no, They're never there's never going

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Speaker 3: a fan base that will not No. I get that.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying, everybody's going to vote for their guy.

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Speaker 5: Everybody's gonn vote for their own team.

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Speaker 3: And they're going to rally against poor Shawn. Everybody listen,

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Speaker 5: let's talk about Tyron Smith and Tyler Smith. We've talked

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Speaker 5: about this a few times. I know, we've talked about

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Speaker 5: this a few times this year, and I think it's

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Speaker 5: a worthy conversation at this point based on the fact

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Speaker 5: that last week, as you said, Chulmann didn't have as

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Speaker 5: bad a game as that Trick thinks he had.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. I was watching the tape and

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Speaker 3: I'm like, when, guys, I don't think it was that bad.

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting right. And I went through and I did

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Speaker 3: plus minus plus minus I kind of six overall minuses

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Speaker 3: that I thought and three of them were just mental mistakes. Right.

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Speaker 3: But that's the physical the physical part of him passing

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Speaker 3: stunts and picking up guys and cutting off guys, that

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Speaker 3: part wasn't a problem. It's the problem. It's just like

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Speaker 3: the it's like when you bust, when you have a

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Speaker 3: mental bust, and it just it just wrecks the play

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Speaker 3: at the worst time. That's where you're at, right, and

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Speaker 3: that's where you're at.

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Speaker 5: And that's the part quite frankly for me, when you're

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Speaker 5: when you just choose not to pick up Chubb, that's

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Speaker 5: how you get your quarterback injured exactly. Those are the

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Speaker 5: those are the type situations that put you in a

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Speaker 5: much worse situation than just a sack. And that's why

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Speaker 5: I'm like, I think the conversation is warranted. Should you

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Speaker 5: as opposed to Chuma Edoga because he's more capable to

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Speaker 3: Court and play basket left guard and pay and play

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Speaker 3: in me says, absolutely do that. And then but you know,

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00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 3: the those guys sitting in that thing, they they do

655
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: not want to move. I get it, they do. They

656
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 3: absolutely do not want to move Tyler Smith. We all,

657
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:47,640
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sorry, I don't mean to speak for you.

658
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 3: I kind of feel like though, as a group, we're saying, yeah, put,

659
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 3: we've seen Tyler Smith play at a very high level

660
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 3: at left tackle. What is the problem. Put? Him out there.

661
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 3: There's something over we're on that side of the building,

662
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 3: and it and and there. It's their job, it's their job.

663
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: It's our job to talk about it, their job to

664
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: execute it. And there's something fundamentally, and it might go

665
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 3: back to Jerry Jones's belief when I did work with

666
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 3: them in scouting that how important the inside three are

667
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: for him. You know, he learned somebody in his journey

668
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: in the NFL, Al Davis John Madden. Somebody told Jerry

669
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: Jones about having the front of the pocket firm. And

670
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 3: he believes that with all his heart. You know, he

671
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: believes that if a quarterback can step up, he has

672
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 3: a chance to throw. Quarterbacks should be able to handle

673
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: stuff off the edge. It's the stuff in the middle

674
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 3: of their face that they can't handle. And they, as

675
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: they fundamentally do not believe moving Tyler Smith is a

676
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 3: good move for that.

677
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 7: See, no one's going to agree with me on this one.

678
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 7: But how do you leave with that because we already

679
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 7: kind of talked about.

680
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 3: It during the break.

681
00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, but I don't know what he's going to agree.

682
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 7: But if it was up to me, and I'm the

683
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 7: head coach and I'm sitting in this situation, and I

684
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 7: know we're in the playoffs, that's a fact you're going

685
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 7: to go in there. And I know the struggles that

686
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 7: the O line is having, regardless of the stats and

687
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 7: all of that. I think you want to give yourself.

688
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 7: You want to give the quarterback the best protection that

689
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 7: you possibly can. And we saw the way that Dak

690
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 7: played in that game. Whatever it was. Mentally, he wasn't

691
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 7: really being his usual self. But if it's up to

692
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 7: me tiring and sitting, he's watching from the bench, sitting

693
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 7: resting his back. I need him full health for the postseason.

694
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 7: I get it. A win is important. You don't want

695
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 7: to turn it into a three game losing streak. That's huge,

696
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 7: But I'm I care more about the playoffs and giving

697
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,959
Speaker 7: ourselves the best chance possible to go out there and

698
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 7: compete and have health all in the A line. So

699
00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 7: I would make the change, And this is definitely not

700
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 7: going to happen, but I would sit tiring make the

701
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 7: change that you're talking about, Derek, because then that gives

702
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 7: you two games of getting a good look of like, Okay,

703
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 7: what can this possibly look at? Worst case scenario emergency

704
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 7: plan if tying at some point in the game or

705
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 7: whatever reason, it's not able to go. You take him out. Okay,

706
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 7: emergency plan goes into effect. But you cannot just ran

707
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 7: randomly just move the guy, move Tyler, and just expect

708
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 7: because we've seen it kind of before where they do

709
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 7: switch in, you know, and play musical chair. We've seen

710
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 7: that happen and it hasn't been terrible. But you don't

711
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 7: want to just do that out of nowhere and expect

712
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 7: it to or just fully rely on that plan working

713
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 7: for you. So I would take these two games to

714
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 7: get get a good look at that. But nothing I'm

715
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 7: saying matters at all because it is absolutely not going

716
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 7: to well. To Bruce, that's what I would do, But

717
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 7: also that's why I'm not a head coach.

718
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 8: To Bryn's point, it also when it comes to Jerry

719
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 8: and also McCarthy as well, they don't like to move

720
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 8: two pieces to solve one problem, and it also goes

721
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 8: to that as well. That being said, you could speak

722
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,720
Speaker 8: for me on this one because I've been on this train.

723
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 8: When Tyron missed the first couple games or so, I

724
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 8: was like, just pop Tyler Tyler Smith back out there.

725
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 8: Cowboys who're like Nope, we're not gonna do it. Tyrn

726
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,840
Speaker 8: missed more games. I was like, just pop Tyler Smith

727
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 8: back out there, and like, Nope, they're not going to

728
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 8: do it. So, like Brian said, this, this organization, this

729
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 8: coaching staff, this front office, they are hell bent on

730
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 8: keeping Tyler Smith that left guard. I if I were

731
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 8: the coach, which is your question, I would in fact

732
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,959
Speaker 8: pop Tyler Smith out to the left tackle and put TJ.

733
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 8: Bass at guard. Because we're also talking about the blind side.

734
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 8: We're not because both sides are not created equal, right,

735
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 8: So you got friends side, you got blindside. You if

736
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Speaker 8: your left tackle is missing assignments against a guy like

737
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 8: Bradley Chubb and key situations blind side, that's a very

738
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 8: dangerous situation. That's more dangerous than just the play being

739
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 8: disrupted or blown up. You might not have a quarterback

740
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 8: after that. So you got to account for that as well.

741
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 8: And we talk about it, and it's true that the

742
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 8: interior three are more so important than the outside lineman.

743
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 8: But then the question becomes what's the talent drop off?

744
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 2: Right?

745
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 8: Is there a bigger talent drop off from Tyron to

746
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 8: Tuma versus Tyler Smith to TJ Bass or is it

747
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 8: the best? You see what I'm saying, you have to

748
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 8: put that into the value equation as well.

749
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Speaker 2: And I think when you.

750
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 7: Look at it also, the which side is more important?

751
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 2: Right?

752
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 8: But when you look at it like that and you

753
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 8: start looking at where's the biggest talent drop off? Then

754
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 8: I still I definitely say Tyler out there, and because

755
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 8: there's a shorter drop off from Tyron to Tyler at

756
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 8: left tackle than there is from Tyron to Tuma. So

757
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 8: all of that, but I don't agree. I think you

758
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 8: played Tyron Smith this game and you wrest him against

759
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 8: the Commanders. Yeah, that's when you put this into play

760
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 8: risk takers.

761
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 7: Not me. I'm playing it safe.

762
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 3: I would planned.

763
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 8: Risk a three game losing straight, three of the best

764
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 8: teams in the league. What does that do for your

765
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 8: momentum and your morale one week away? Because after this game,

766
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 8: you have one week away from good They don't play

767
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 8: well on the road. So who says you going to

768
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 8: Washington and win that game? So now you're risking nope,

769
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 8: get to win.

770
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 3: Who let me ask you this? Have you given up

771
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 3: winning the division?

772
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 2: Sounds like she has?

773
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 3: Oh my god, no, no, no, I'm asking because I'm just

774
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 3: your decision, what you're doing.

775
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 7: That's a fair point.

776
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, no, I'm asking you this way.

777
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 3: I'm asking because if you believe that eighty six percent,

778
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 3: if you look at playoff probabilities and all that, that

779
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 3: you're going to be the fifth seed, absolutely do what

780
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: you're talking about doing. If you're locked into being the

781
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: fifth seed, absolutely do what you're you're talking about doing,

782
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: Reus Tyrant Smith. But if you have a just you,

783
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 3: it's also you got to keep playing until they say

784
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 3: you're the fifth seed. Because if you if there's a

785
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 3: chance that you can and again it's a slim one,

786
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: but you got to keep playing. You got to keep

787
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 3: winning and hope that something happens in Philadelphia where you

788
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 3: win the division or you know, or you can get

789
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: the second seat. I would hate to rest Tyron Smith

790
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: and then lose a game. But if you feel like

791
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: if you feel like that, no, it's eighty six percent,

792
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 3: we're locked in that odds are too much for us. Yes,

793
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: let's rest them.

794
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 7: I totally understand how important is Tyron Smith in the

795
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 7: playoffs for.

796
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 3: You, huge, He's huge, more than but but but I

797
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 3: got it. I got to try and get a home game.

798
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 3: I got to try and get to the second seat

799
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 3: because the second seed to be the second seed.

800
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 7: Okay, different question, home game or Tyron Smith have you seen.

801
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 2: Question?

802
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 3: Would answer that question.

803
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 5: But if I don't have much better at home without

804
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 5: road with Tyrons.

805
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 7: Okay, Now with that being said, that argument can convince

806
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 7: convince me a lot more than yes, because yeah, absolutely

807
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 7: will take the home games.

808
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 3: See to me, if you're if you're the two seeds,

809
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 3: somehow you're playing Seattle at home again, I'll take my chance.

810
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 3: I mean, I know it was a I know we

811
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: all were hold on to our rear game, but I

812
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 3: mean it was you know, you gotta win, you know,

813
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 3: all right, y'all convince me.

814
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 5: I'll even complicate this just a little bit more. Listen

815
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:32,760
Speaker 5: to what you said, Bro about the linebackers and the blitzer.

816
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 5: I think maybe this is not the game where you'd

817
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 5: maybe want to move Tyler out because if you've got

818
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 5: linebackers coming out the middle and you haven't adapt to that,

819
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 5: I may think, Hey, this is a game where I

820
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 5: really need my interior to stay as consistent as possible.

821
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 5: And they know each other, they know how to adapt

822
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 5: to different things that may be coming at them and

823
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 5: in one more week. Let's let's also be clear, like

824
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 5: Chuma wasn't bad when he played earlier in the season,

825
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 5: he had some bad moments in this last game. My

826
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 5: expectation is coming out of going into this game, he'll

827
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 5: probably be a little bit better. And and that being said,

828
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 5: I'd rather keep everything as consistent as possible. Well, when

829
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 5: I'm playing a team that's going to send a lot

830
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 5: of different pressure in a lot of different ways.

831
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: You need to be better too. And last week was

832
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 3: unfortunate because your center wasn't better. Your center, your centers,

833
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 3: your center's been good. And you know he earlier he

834
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: had some moments where he wasn't good and then he

835
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 3: kind of found himself and playing a lot better and

836
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: they you know, they're running the ball and all that.

837
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: Last week he wasn't as good as he needed to be,

838
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 3: and so we're kind of focusing on Tuma. But the

839
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: center wasn't great either, and that that that's that's an

840
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 3: issue when you're talking about it.

841
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 7: So excited about him this year, just going back to training, fine,

842
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 7: it's just it's just every time amazing.

843
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 3: Sometimes it reverts back where he gets overpowered and and

844
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 3: you know, and struggles with the blocks and sustain and things.

845
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 3: But I mean, that's you could say that about a

846
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: lot of centers. But when the Cowboys are bad on

847
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,479
Speaker 3: the offensive line, it's generally they're bad at a couple

848
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 3: of spots. It's center and right, and that's that's where

849
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 3: they've kind of they've had their struggles.

850
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 5: I had a question for you guys. This comes from

851
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 5: Shoes and Sports on Twitter. He says, why haven't Why

852
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 5: haven't we seen more of Awesome Richards?

853
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 8: That's a good guy on Twitter, by the way, good guy.

854
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 8: That is a very good question, very good question.

855
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 5: Should should we be seeing more of him?

856
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 2: Well?

857
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 8: I think for this one, I'd have to defer to

858
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 8: the coaching staff and assume they're seeing something that we're

859
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 8: not seeing that has them, I'm not gonna say shook,

860
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 8: but not exactly as confident as they would be or

861
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 8: feel like they should be at this point in the season,

862
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:37,000
Speaker 8: because in a game like you know, you saw against

863
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 8: the Dolphins, Tuma not struggling physically, but struggling with his

864
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 8: decision making. If you're confident and Awesome, maybe Awesome starts

865
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 8: that game right, but you've not really seen I mean,

866
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 8: we're going into week seventeen and you've not really seen

867
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 8: awsome Richards get you know, much of any playing time,

868
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 8: even with injuries at that position. So I just I

869
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,399
Speaker 8: feel like there's something there that they see that we're

870
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 8: not seeing that would answer the question.

871
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Speaker 2: But we just don't have the answer.

872
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Speaker 3: Coaches do not want to play a rookie player if

873
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: they don't have to. I mean there's I mean, in

874
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 3: this in this day and age, sometimes you have to

875
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 3: plug and play guys and go. But they would they

876
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 3: would rather remember a doga, a Dooka was we thought

877
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 3: was a better guard than he was at tackle. I

878
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: mean there were times of training camp at tackle you

879
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 3: were going, oh geez, moving back inside. Yeah, and awesome.

880
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 3: There's sometimes are awesome, looks great and other times looks

881
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,800
Speaker 3: like he's in a revolving door. You know, he's just

882
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: getting kind of knocked around and all that. You know.

883
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 3: I mean, you just gotta coaches will go with what

884
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 3: they know. And as much as they were saw what

885
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 3: they saw with a Doga, they know what a doga

886
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 3: can do. That's what they did.

887
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Speaker 8: It's so much youth there between Richards and then well

888
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 8: let's go and you know, let's go second, your guy,

889
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 8: but you gotta wonder if if his shoulders can can

890
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 8: hold up. They say, so, it's like, wow, just get

891
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 8: in stay healthy for the next several weeks time, and

892
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 8: that's really all you can hope for.

893
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 7: Well, it's crazy. We have Sorry what we started the

894
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 7: season kind of talking about the old line and all

895
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 7: from the beginning. I mean, we've gone through we're coming

896
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 7: near the end of the season, and we spent pretty

897
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 7: much all season talking about something about the O line.

898
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: For seven health lives, real health for seven. For seven weeks.

899
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 3: It really held together.

900
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Speaker 7: Well despite all the health concerned because even when they

901
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 7: were in there playing, we all know they were still

902
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 7: dealing with everybody with something. And it's been just a

903
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 7: I'm talking about yeah, just health strictly, people dealing with

904
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 7: stuff in the O line and the way that they've

905
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,959
Speaker 7: managed to hold up and get as many wins as

906
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 7: they have. Now the running game does I feel it's

907
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 7: taken a hit because it hasn't really been that great,

908
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 7: but just yeah, we made it this far and now

909
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 7: we're here.

910
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Speaker 2: Well, look we.

911
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 8: Got we're coming off of the absence in Miami, you know,

912
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 8: not coming that one, but we're coming off of the

913
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,959
Speaker 8: tyrone Smith having played seven consecutive games, so he played

914
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 8: all five in November and then he played two to

915
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,279
Speaker 8: start December. If he comes back this week or maybe

916
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 8: next week, he comes back this week, then maybe we

917
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 8: get six consecutive games because they get you. Yeah, you

918
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 8: see what you're going with that, right, So you don't

919
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 8: need seven. My point is you don't need seven straight

920
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 8: games from him anymore this season. Five or six, five

921
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 8: or six consecutive games of health and your offensive lines

922
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 8: should should be okay.

923
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 3: And you're just being held hostage right now. Yeah we are.

924
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 3: I mean, you're so you need him so badly, and

925
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 3: yet you just when you pray to the football gods

926
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 3: that please let him be healthy today because you just

927
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 3: got to have him. You just don't know from day

928
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: to day, and you just don't know. He might he

929
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 3: might be sitting in that airplane seat flying to Washington

930
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 3: and then the back tighten up on him and you're like, okay,

931
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: well here we go.

932
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, all right, appreciate you guys. Jon us

933
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Speaker 5: back tomorrow. We'll wrap this thing up. Let you know

934
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Speaker 5: what thing is gonna happen Saturday night, Cowboys versus Lions

935
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Speaker 5: till then for Patrick Walker, Brian brought us in Amber Garcia.

936
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Speaker 5: I am Derek Eagleton and this has been the Break

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Speaker 5: live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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