1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,480 Speaker 2: Ben Denucci, NFL quarterback, recently cut by the Falcons, the 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 2: seventh time he's been released in his pro career. He 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 2: played at Pittsburgh, He played at James Madison and was 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:19,080 Speaker 2: initially I think selected by the Cowboys and the twenty 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 2: twenty NFL Draft. Got to start a game for the Cowboys. 8 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 2: I think that same year during COVID and Ben joining us, 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 2: I wanted to buy you a beer. I felt bad 10 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: when you posted you were at the airport. What time 11 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 2: was that you were having a beer on Saturday? 12 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 3: About three pm? 13 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 4: So I thought it was I thought it was good 14 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 4: enough time to crack one open, so figured it was fine. 15 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 5: Do you ever get used to getting cut? 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:47,919 Speaker 3: Honestly? 17 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I was very fortunate the first couple 18 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 4: of years of my career to be to be in Dallas, 19 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 4: and then the last couple of years. Yeah, the last twelve, 20 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 4: twelve or eighteen months, I've been on three or four teams. 21 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 4: It seems like every couple of months, you're, uh, you're 22 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 4: packing up, finding finding a new place to play, and 23 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 4: you know, going about your business. 24 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, I'd say at this point I'm I'm used 25 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 3: to it. I'm kind of numb to it. Not necessarily 26 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 3: that it's a bad thing, it's you just kind of 27 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 3: get used to it. 28 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 5: How tense is cut down day? 29 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 3: For me? The last I mean the last couple of years, 30 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 3: it hasn't been very tense. 31 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 4: I didn't see myself having any chance to make the roster, 32 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 4: to make the practice squad. But it's it's tough, right, 33 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 4: I mean, you people don't realize for the guys that 34 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 4: are trying to make this roster, the any roster, the 35 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 4: preseason is your is your super Bowl? 36 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 6: Right? 37 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: Your playoffs? 38 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 4: You get two or three games, Uh, you get maybe 39 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 4: a couple of quarters a game to go put on 40 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 4: tape what you're what you're gonna do, not only for 41 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 4: the team you're on. 42 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 3: But the thirty one other teams. So it's it's very stressed. 43 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 4: I've got a few buddies who are still sitting around 44 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 4: waiting this morning to see if see if their phone 45 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 4: rings are not and uh, they'll go from there. But yeah, 46 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 4: it's stressful. It's guys live livelihoods. It's their way of 47 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 4: making money and it's uh, you know what they do. 48 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 4: So it's it's very stressful. 49 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 5: How were you told. 50 00:02:02,560 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 3: My phone rang from. 51 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 4: A New York number that I didn't have in my 52 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 4: phone and that's normally, you know, that's normally a number 53 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 4: you don't ever want to see pop up on your phone. 54 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 4: I answered, Hey, Ben, you know, coach wants to see you. 55 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 4: Bring your iPad, bring your charger, bring your playbook. And 56 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 4: that's kind of kind of how it rolls. When you 57 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 4: get into the facility, there's somebody waiting for you. They 58 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 4: take you around, drop your iPad off, go see your coaches, 59 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 4: go see you know, whoever else you need to see, 60 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 4: and then you know, they buy. 61 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:26,679 Speaker 3: You a flight, and then you're next thing, you know, 62 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 3: you're drinking an airport beer. 63 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,640 Speaker 5: So okay, what do you do now? Like, at what 64 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 5: point do you say? 65 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: Now, I know you're you're going to do a football 66 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 2: game coming up air Force and Bucknill and CBA Sports Network, 67 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: But are you done trying out for NFL teams? 68 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 4: So no, I don't think I'm officially done yet, right, 69 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 4: I mean, the NFL is an interesting kind of animal. 70 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 4: You get a phone called any second, could be today, tomorrow, 71 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 4: could be in six months, could could never be again. 72 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 4: So yeah, the tough part guy for guys, is staying 73 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 4: in it right, waking up every morning, still doing what 74 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 4: you've been doing the last couple of years, to make 75 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 4: sure that you know if the phone rings, you know 76 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 4: you're you're doing what you're supposed to do and ready 77 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 4: to roll that if a team needs you. 78 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 3: But at the same time, I've. 79 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 4: Been in this situation a couple times the last couple 80 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 4: of years and don't necessarily want. 81 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 3: To be waiting around again. 82 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 4: I'll fall just stressing myself out watching NFL games on Sunday. 83 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: So I'm excited to uh to move on a little bit. 84 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 4: Progress the next chapter of my career outside of football, 85 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 4: and looking forward to to call on Buck Noelver's Air 86 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 4: Force to Saturday. 87 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: Okay, but if you get a call on Friday night 88 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 2: by an NFL team, what happens to Saturday afternoon? 89 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 5: Bucknell and air Force? 90 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 4: I'll tell them, hey, I can't I can't be anywhere 91 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 4: until Sunday, and hopefully their. 92 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 5: Response is what I expected to seventh round draft pick 93 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 5: by the Cowboys. 94 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: Correct? 95 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 2: What was that like when Jerry Jones called you to 96 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: tell you he was drafting you? 97 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: Very cool? 98 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 4: I think I might be one of the only people 99 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,839 Speaker 4: in Cowboys history to say that I got drafted from 100 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: from Jerry Jones's yacht. It was that COVID year, so 101 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 4: they weren't they weren't in their draft room, and I 102 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 4: think Jerry was calling everybody from from from his yacht 103 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 4: in the middle of the ocean somewhere and saw the 104 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 4: phone ring. It was his assistant. He said, hey, you know, Ben, 105 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 4: you know, mister mister Jones wants to talk to you. 106 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: We've got the next pick. We're drafting you. And you know, 107 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 4: at that point, it was kind of like, all right, 108 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 4: this is this is really cool. Everything that we worked 109 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 4: for growing up, high school, college, it's kind of all come, 110 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 4: I'll come for a full circle and worth it. 111 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 3: And this is kind of the moment that that we've 112 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: been waiting for. 113 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: Ben Denutci NFL quarter I'm still going to introduce you's 114 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 2: NFL quarterback. 115 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 3: That's that's fair. I'll take it. 116 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, released for the seventh time in his pro career, 117 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 2: and it'll be in the broadcasting booth. It'll be Bucknell 118 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: in Air Force. That'll be a three thirty Eastern this 119 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 2: weekend for CBS Sports Network. Being on the practice squad 120 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 2: as opposed to the active squad. What's the difference in 121 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 2: how you're treated your pay lifestyle. 122 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, nothing's different except the except your weekly checks 123 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 4: that you're getting in every week. You know, everybody treats 124 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 4: you the same way, right, I mean, there's fi three 125 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 4: guys on the active roster and they're sixteen on the 126 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 4: practice squad. And the reality of the NFL is that 127 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 4: guys are going to get hurt over the course of 128 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 4: the year, right, whether it's you know, whatever position it is. 129 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 4: And so those guys that are on the practice squad there, 130 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 4: they're a vital part of the team. They're the guys 131 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 4: that are getting the starters ready to go to go, 132 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 4: you know, play out there on Sundays. They have a vital, 133 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 4: vital role in making these teams go. And so there's 134 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 4: a reason that these teams put a lot of effort 135 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 4: into into the practice squad, just just like they do 136 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 4: the active rosters. 137 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:29,719 Speaker 3: So yeah, it's really all the same. 138 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 4: You're still traveling with the team, you're still still practicing, 139 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 4: still part of meetings. The pay cuts a little bit 140 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 4: a little bit less, but at the end of the day, 141 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 4: it's it's it's still great. 142 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 5: So, but can you can you leave it now? 143 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: Like if I say what is your moment, You're going 144 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 2: to tell your kids are grand kids where you that's 145 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 2: my NFL moment? 146 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 5: What is it? 147 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 6: Yeah? 148 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 4: I mean it, it'd be hard not to say, you know, 149 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 4: my rookie year, when I got to start that game 150 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 4: on Sunday Night Football against the Cowboys. I think that's 151 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 4: a moment that everybody kind of grows up thinking, Hey, 152 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 4: I'd love to I'd love to play in the NFL. 153 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 4: Let alone, let it be for the Dallas Cowboys, right, 154 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,119 Speaker 4: I mean, the Stars just kind of this iconic brand, 155 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 4: not only you know in the. 156 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 3: US, but you know overseas as well. 157 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's it's crazy that it just happened my 158 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 4: first year. Some guys it happens year ten, something happens 159 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 4: year five. Mind just happened to be to be a 160 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 4: rookie year. And so to be able to do that 161 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 4: and say I started a game for the Dallas Cowboys, 162 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 4: it's something that a lot of people can't can't say 163 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 4: and stick their name to. 164 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: So that was kind of my hey, welcome to the 165 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 3: NFL moment. 166 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 4: And I think when it's all said and done, that'll 167 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 4: be what I look back on and saying, man, I 168 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 4: was that was pretty cool. 169 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: I'm glad, glad that happened. 170 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 5: Hell nervous, were you? Well? 171 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,680 Speaker 4: Honestly, I think I would have been a lot more 172 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 4: nervous had there been seventy five thousand people in the 173 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 4: stands like a year opposed to only five or six 174 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 4: thousand for COVID. 175 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 3: So honestly, wasn't that nervous, right? I think you're more 176 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: nervous just kind. 177 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 4: Of the week leading up the practice, the game plan, 178 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: making sure you know that checks, everything is kind of 179 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 4: you're good mentally, and then when you get out there 180 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 4: on the on the day of the game. Shoot, it's 181 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 4: the same game I've been playing for the last fifteen years. 182 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 4: So when you step inside the white lines, it's it's 183 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 4: go time. You got to shut shut everything else out 184 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 4: and go play ball. 185 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 5: You get to keep your jerseys from all these stomps. 186 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 3: You do. Yeah, you can see my Cowboys one up here. 187 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: I grabbed, uh. 188 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 4: I grabbed my Falcons one last weekend, and I think 189 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: I've got the only the only one I don't have 190 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: is the bills from last year during camp. So trying 191 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 4: to trying to find a way to to get that one. 192 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 4: That's the last one I need. 193 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 5: Do you have to ask or do you steal? 194 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 4: Well, you steal, but they still uh, they still deduct 195 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 4: it from your paycheck. 196 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: You've got to kind of sign off on everything. 197 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 4: The day after the games when they're checking all the 198 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 4: jerseys back in there, like all of a sudden, Hey, 199 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 4: danucciese jersey's not here. Let's make sure he uh, he 200 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 4: pays for this thing on his way out. So that 201 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 4: might have been my last party and gift from the Falcons. 202 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 5: How much was it? 203 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 4: Uh? Four hundred bucks? Yeah, so, I mean, I guess 204 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 4: it depends who you ask if that's. 205 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 3: A lot of money or not. 206 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 5: So is it game used? 207 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: Worth it? It's worth it? 208 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's game used. 209 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 4: I worked the game, took it right off, took it 210 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 4: right off my pads after the game and through my bags. 211 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 2: Good luck with the broadcasting career and maybe the phone rings. 212 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: But you got the opportunity though, Ben, that's the key 213 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: and a lot of us never had it. You got it, 214 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: and maybe you get that opportunity again. But it seemed 215 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 2: like you're in good spirits. I don't know if you're 216 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 2: masking something. Did you cry? 217 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 3: I've cried a couple of times. 218 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 4: I'm at this point in my career where it's just 219 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 4: I'm filled with a lot of gratitude at this point. 220 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 4: Right to be able to be cut that many times, 221 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 4: you've got to you know, team's got to like you 222 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 4: enough to sign you in the first place. Right, So 223 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 4: it's been an unbelievable career. Got five good years, played 224 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 4: on a bunch of different teams, played for some you 225 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 4: know head coaches that I grew up idolizing, you know, Coach. 226 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 3: McCarthy, coach Peyton, coach McDermott, and Buffalo. 227 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 4: Played with a lot of guys, right Dak, Josh, Allen, Russell, Wilson, 228 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 4: Guys that you know I've had on my fantasy team. 229 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 3: Figures growing up. And then all of a sudden you're. 230 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 4: Sitting next to him in the in the meeting room saying, 231 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 4: how the hell the heck did I get here? 232 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: So it's been really cool for me. Yeah, there's no 233 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 3: reason to hang my hat. 234 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 4: I'm excited about the next chapter, and it's been it's 235 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 4: been a heck of a ride. 236 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 2: It might be awkward, and it might be awkwary were 237 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 2: me even saying this, But did you ever try to 238 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 2: swap jerseys with dak or Russell Wilson or Josh Allen. 239 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 3: Honestly, no, that thought never even even crossed my mind. 240 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 4: But looking back now, I sure would like to have 241 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,319 Speaker 4: a couple of a couple of those jerseys to throw 242 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 4: up next to mine and in my man cave, just 243 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 4: to say, hey, my kids one day, Yeah, your dad 244 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 4: was decent. 245 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 3: He actually did play with these guys. 246 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 4: He doesn't just have a bunch of random, random jerseys 247 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 4: of himself hanging up on the wall. 248 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 5: Thanks for joining us. 249 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 2: We appreciate being a good sport here and good luck 250 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,920 Speaker 2: against with Bucknell and Air Force this weekend. 251 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 3: Thank you, Dan, appreciate it all the best. 252 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 5: That's Ben Denucci. 253 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 254 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 255 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 256 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 7: Hey, Steve Covino and I'm Rich David and together we're 257 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 7: Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. 258 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 8: You could catch us weekdays from five to seven pm 259 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 8: Eastern two to four Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and 260 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 8: of course the iHeartRadio app. 261 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 7: Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? 262 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 8: We talk about everything life, sports relationships, what's going on 263 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 8: in the world. 264 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 7: We have a lot of fun talking about the stories 265 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 7: behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture, 266 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 7: stories that well, other shows don't seem to have the 267 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 7: time to discuss. 268 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 8: And the fact that we've been friends for the last 269 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 8: twenty years and still work together, I mean that says something, right. 270 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 7: So check us out. 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I was inflated. My body wasn't really 290 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 9: built for that weight. But I was taking a lot 291 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 9: of supplements at the time. 292 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 5: Okay, legal supplements, of course. 293 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 9: Of course, above brow of course. 294 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 5: Were you Julian Edelman before Julian Edelman? 295 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 9: Yes, end statement. 296 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 5: Yeah. 297 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 9: Now I was limited to an inside receiver route tree 298 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 9: because of lack of linear speed, and I was quicker 299 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 9: than fast, as they'd say, And I did a lot 300 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 9: of coaching while playing, if you know what I mean. 301 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 2: How about forty yard Danish if you raised Tyreek Hill, Yeah, 302 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: he would. 303 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 5: Get me, he would. 304 00:11:58,120 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 9: I had to think about it. 305 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 2: Okay, is there anybody closer to him speed wise? 306 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, there's I think there's a lot of guys that 307 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 9: are that are that are fast, particularly on our team, 308 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 9: But I think what makes his speed unique is the acceleration. 309 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 9: You know, it's he gets top speed very quick. He's 310 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 9: almost top speed on the third step of a route 311 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 9: when he's motioning, so that the quickness and speed is 312 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 9: hard to it's hard to match. But there's several guys 313 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 9: on the team that will with absolute certainty say that 314 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 9: they're faster than him, even though they don't have a 315 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 9: time as fast as his. 316 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 2: But if you're calling plays knowing that he's so quick 317 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: at like, does it change if you're calling something, let's 318 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 2: say it's it's third and seven, you just want to 319 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: get him the ball because of that acceleration, not he 320 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: has to go out seven or eight yards. 321 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 9: No, you know, quite literally. One of the the positives 322 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 9: of being in the same offensive system for my entire career. 323 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 9: You know, I came in two thousand and five learning 324 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 9: Mike Shanahan's and have stayed with it is realistically, the 325 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 9: what the offense is is a product of people's skill sets. 326 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 9: So we do a lot of timing motion because we 327 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 9: can utilize Tyreek and waddle and et cetera at that 328 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 9: that their unique skill sets. So pretty much, uh, you know, 329 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 9: all all players skill sets for us now in the 330 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 9: system are eve've kind of adapted to them and try 331 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 9: to use their their best skills most frequently. 332 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 2: When did that change? It felt like when quarterbacks were drafted, 333 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: certainly in my era, that you had to adapt to 334 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: that coach and his philosophy. Where it feels like Cam 335 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 2: Newton when he came in, it felt like Carolina says, Hey, 336 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 2: we're gonna cater to your needs. I don't know if 337 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 2: you remember since you were there with Shanahan and five, 338 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: did you see something a seismic shift where you're kind 339 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 2: of adapting your audience or your your offense to that 340 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 2: quarterback you're taking. 341 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 9: Yeah, I think you just hit on something super interesting 342 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 9: because the whole the whole tree underneath. Kyle Shanahan learned 343 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 9: that in twenty twelve when we had a rookie RG 344 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 9: three at quarterback and we're gonna jump into the game 345 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 9: of zone read and realistically we completely adapted. You know, 346 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 9: I was an offensive assistant, you know, Matt Lafleur was 347 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 9: the quarterback coach. Sean McVay was the Titans coach. Kyle 348 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 9: Shanahan was the offensive coordinator. You know. Raheem Morris was 349 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 9: the defense or secondary coach. Bobby Sloak was outside linebackers coach. 350 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 9: All these people first hand where we had our offense 351 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 9: from what we ran in Houston and extension Denver and 352 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 9: then retooled it in Washington, and then for for me 353 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 9: personally and and Kyle, we went we got fired and 354 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 9: then went to Cleveland and had a job and didn't 355 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 9: want to get fired. So we tried to adapt to 356 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 9: those players, and then we did the same thing when 357 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 9: we went to Atlanta. So it was it's really in 358 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 9: the course of the journey. Early on, we we had 359 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 9: the opportunity to, you know, directly, you know, evolved the 360 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 9: offense to cater to players' needs. And you know, I've 361 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 9: kind of seen everything through that lens. 362 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 5: Since most talented quarterback you've ever been around? 363 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 9: Talented what the quarterbacking? You know, I would I would say, uh, 364 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 9: you know, Matt Ryan was up there, but I think 365 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 9: two is probably the most talented quarterback. The most talented, 366 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 9: UH speed threat was probably Robert Griffin the third you know, 367 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 9: so he was fast and uh before the defense UH 368 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 9: schematically caught up to us. You know, he do his 369 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 9: Rookie of the Year for a reason. Matt Ryan played 370 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 9: the game, UH in a unique K way that really 371 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 9: changed a lot of stuff that we do in the 372 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 9: dropback game based upon how how good he was. And 373 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 9: then there was uh one of the best quarterbacks at 374 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 9: play action pass that's super underrated was Matt shab He 375 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 9: was He was really good at utilizing Andrew Johnson's speed 376 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 9: and being able to avoid sacks while getting explosives. 377 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: Talking to Mike McDaniel, four season is the Dolphins head coach. 378 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 2: You start out, you got Indy at Indy, then host 379 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 2: New England at Buffalo, and then host New York. 380 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 5: How much pressure do you feel? 381 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 9: I always think that's funny because I think it would 382 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 9: have to be delusional to not you know, expect. You know, 383 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 9: I think you take a job like this and you're 384 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 9: working in the NFL, and for me, I'm preparing to 385 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 9: have this job, and then I take the job, and 386 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 9: I'm very much aware of the black and white reality 387 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 9: of you know, wins and losses and how things, how 388 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 9: you're able to you know, sustain the job and keep 389 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 9: the job and involve the program is all based on, 390 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 9: you know, the nuts and bolts of winning and losing games. 391 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 9: So I think everything that I do to prepare has 392 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 9: always been to uh kind of be my best self 393 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 9: in moments of pressure. And uh yeah, I mean I 394 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,880 Speaker 9: know it exists, but I don't feel it because it's 395 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,359 Speaker 9: kind of uh, you know ingrained or attached to what 396 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:19,800 Speaker 9: I understand this job to be. 397 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 5: How much do you take home with you, you know, uh. 398 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 9: The gift of uh you know, my one and only 399 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 9: daughter has has really helped, uh, you know, create some 400 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 9: boundaries for myself. You know, I carry stuff through the 401 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 9: through the car ride home, but when I get home, 402 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 9: especially when you have a short compressed time to to 403 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 9: be something that's you know, pillar of importance in who 404 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 9: you are as a person, which is being a father 405 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 9: for me, I get to I get the gift of 406 00:18:57,040 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 9: being able to get home, see her face, engage her, 407 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 9: and try to leave it at work because you have 408 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 9: to be balanced in life to have your edge at 409 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 9: your at performance really for whatever you're doing. So you know, 410 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 9: I think earlier in my career I struggled to do that, 411 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 9: but my daughters really helped me out with that one. 412 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 2: When you were growing up and you were getting those 413 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,199 Speaker 2: autographs when you go to the Broncos camp, do you 414 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: still have those autographs? 415 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 9: I do in a trunk somewhere. 416 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 2: What are some of your favorite autographs that you got 417 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 2: when you were a kid. 418 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 9: I had one sleeve of cards like in the plastic, 419 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 9: but it was a sleeve in a binder that I 420 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 9: kept all the autographs and it was probably the John 421 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 9: Only page. I had about seven of them because I 422 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 9: was a relentless obsessed daily visitor at Denver Brock's training camp. 423 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 9: So those were probably my favorite, or you know, the 424 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 9: we del Pino one that led. 425 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 5: To uh to. 426 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 9: Uh me meeting my my stepdad. That was probably the 427 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 9: two best ones that that got me uh connected with 428 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 9: Mike Shanahan in the first place. 429 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 2: Okay, so explain that because it wasn't it an assistant coach, Like, 430 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: explain how your mom met her your stepdad. 431 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 9: Well, I mean it's the normal nuclear family trajectory of 432 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 9: a child introducing uh my mother and stepfather. 433 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 5: Of course happens all the time. 434 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, So I was getting autograph. 435 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 7: Uh. 436 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 9: Well, I would go to Denver Bronco training camp and 437 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 9: uh and get autographs daily. I had a Charlotte Hornets 438 00:20:53,240 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 9: fitted loud purple and teal hat and uh it was noticeable. 439 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 9: So I got Robert Delpino's autograph earlier in the day. 440 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 9: I wanted to get another one. As an only child, 441 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,199 Speaker 9: I guess I just wanted more. So I put the 442 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 9: hat down, got the autograph, came back, the hat was gone. 443 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 9: I was about nine at the time, so I was 444 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 9: crying and a member of the Broncos was interested in 445 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 9: why I was freaking out. I told him about the hat. 446 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 9: He took down the measurements. A couple of days later, 447 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 9: he saw me again at training camp because I was 448 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 9: automatic at Lawrence Hall at the time, and he he 449 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:37,119 Speaker 9: gave me a hat with a price tag on it. 450 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 9: He went out to the Greeley mall and bought me 451 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 9: a hat, and so then I thought he was worthy 452 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 9: of meeting my mother. So I introduced them, and they 453 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 9: got married and moved to Denver and was as a result, 454 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 9: he was an assistant video guy for the Broncos and 455 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 9: I got to at age fourteen. I was a ball 456 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 9: boy through high school and uh, you know, really got 457 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 9: in the NFL door, you know, being able to be 458 00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 9: around the guys and stuff from you know, before I 459 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 9: could drive. 460 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: Well, speaking of love, your reaction to Travis Kelsey and 461 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 2: Taylor Swift getting engaged was what. 462 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 9: Oh you just told me. I didn't know, that's my reaction. 463 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,719 Speaker 5: How do you not know? 464 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 9: Well, you, uh, you keep yourself from anything that's multimedia, 465 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 9: and then, uh, you make yourself a terrible conversation when 466 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 9: people bring up pop culture, and you do that over time, 467 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,119 Speaker 9: and then you don't know anything that you uh, you 468 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 9: know I'm pumped to hear about it now, I guess, 469 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 9: you know, I think there's layers to to my reaction, 470 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 9: you know. You know, I'm hoping it's a loved love 471 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 9: based relationship and you know, and good for them, you know, 472 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 9: finally finally they're not I mean, finally they're doing it 473 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 9: the old fashioned way, you know, where people shouldn't really 474 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 9: enter into any escapades unless they're married. 475 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 6: You know. 476 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 2: So, now, if one of your guys gets engaged, do 477 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: you expect to be invited to the wedding? 478 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 9: Now, I'm the boss, like, so, I appreciate if I am, 479 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 9: but my expectation is that nobody wants to hang out 480 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 9: with me. Ever that that I'm the boss. 481 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 5: Of Are you a buzzkill? 482 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 9: No, it's just the nature of boss, you know. The 483 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 9: nature of boss is like, all right, this isn't work. 484 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 9: Why do I feel like it's work? Oh, because there's 485 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 9: the guy that may or may not be judging me, 486 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 9: you know. So I don't get my feelings hurt. I 487 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 9: don't have high expectations for for that, just understanding the 488 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 9: role and responsibility. 489 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 2: Always great to catch up with you, Thanks for joining us, 490 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: good luck starting the season. 491 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 9: Thank you very much. 492 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:05,239 Speaker 5: That's uh. 493 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,959 Speaker 2: Mike McDaniel four season is the Dolphins head coach. They 494 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 2: were eight to nine last year, and they open up 495 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 2: at Indy, host New England, at Buffalo and hosts New York. 496 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 497 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 498 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 499 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: listen live. 500 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 5: Stop me if you've heard this one before. 501 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 2: Files brings us the Dallas Cowboys who committed, in my opinion, 502 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 2: organizational malpractice yesterday. And it's not just because they traded 503 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,959 Speaker 2: away Micah Parsons. It's how they traded him away. You 504 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 2: get two first round picks, you get a former Pro 505 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 2: Bowl defensive lineman Kenny Clark from Green Bay and Jerry 506 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 2: Jones admitted that the team had been considering moving Parsons 507 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,239 Speaker 2: as early as the beginning of the off season, and 508 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 2: I think that's where the misstep occurred. If you know 509 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: your open to dealing a twenty six year old pass rusher, 510 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 2: maybe the best defensive player in the game, why wait 511 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 2: until a week before the start of the season. If 512 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: you're in March leading up to the draft, you know 513 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: everybody's got these draft picks. 514 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 5: Maybe we could do something here. 515 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: Cap room teams can maybe explore a trade with Michaeh Parsons. 516 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 2: It just doesn't make any sense if you're going to 517 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: trade him, okay, then trade him back in March or 518 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 2: April if the you know, the sticker shock was there 519 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 2: and you didn't want to pay him that you thought 520 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: you had a handshake agreement, which is illegal in the NFL. Illegal, 521 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 2: and Jerry thought, okay, we've agreed on a deal that's 522 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: just over forty million dollars forty point five. Well, if 523 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 2: you know these other defensive players who are a similar 524 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 2: stature to Michaeh Parsons, TJ. Watt and Miles Garon, Max Crosby, 525 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,919 Speaker 2: maybe you know what the price is going to be, 526 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 2: and you know what's going on. You draft a guy, 527 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 2: you want him to be great. You want him to 528 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 2: be into that second contract they were going to do that. 529 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: He has been great, He's you know, his trajectory is 530 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 2: Hall of fame. And I kept thinking, okay, I didn't 531 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,440 Speaker 2: think that Jerry would trade him, and then all of 532 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 2: a sudden I did a little deeper dive, and you know, 533 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,199 Speaker 2: I had conversations that were off the record, and I 534 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 2: have to be true to those two conversations. But as 535 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,000 Speaker 2: soon as I got off the you know, a phone 536 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,639 Speaker 2: call with one source and I called Paulie and I go, 537 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 2: I got information. I can't really do anything with this. 538 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 2: I got to be fair, but it gave me a 539 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: little bit more of a backdrop on what had been 540 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 2: going on. And was Micah Parsons truly liked in the building. 541 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: Could Stephen Jones have been maybe his fingerprints are on this, 542 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: Like there was a lot of things that were swirling. 543 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: I just want to kind of find out exactly. It 544 00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 2: doesn't help me advance the story, but at least I 545 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 2: was trying to find out. But I was sworn, you know, 546 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: this is off the record. This you know, like every 547 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 2: four sentences, this is off the record, I go, oh, 548 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: it's off the record. But I wanted to understand how 549 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 2: did we get to this point because Jerry, I thought, 550 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 2: would say, I got a quarterback that is a marque quarterback. 551 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 2: Whether you think he's great or not, you're paying him. 552 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 2: You got a Marquee wide receiver, and you got Micah Parsons. 553 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 2: They got Digs too, who's been banged up the last 554 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: two years. But you got guys at keep positions and 555 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 2: that's what you want. And I thought, Okay, this is 556 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: it's gonna hurt. You overpaid for Dak. You needed to 557 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: overpay for Micah Parsons in my opinion. But somehow through 558 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,959 Speaker 2: all of this, Jerry Jones yesterday with a straight face, 559 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: said that the team is actually better now. 560 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 6: This gives us a better chance to be a better 561 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 6: team than we have been the last few several years 562 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 6: since Mike has been here. Not any negative on Michaeh, 563 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 6: but we're trying to get better. We're trying to stop 564 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 6: the run and stay on the hunt. 565 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 2: Okay, you're not better now, not today, and you have flexibility. 566 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 2: Kenny Clark is a good defensive tackle, but his best 567 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: years are behind him. He went to two Pro Bowls. Okay, yeah, 568 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 2: we got to stop the run. You know, you got 569 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 2: to stop the pass as well. You had one of 570 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: the worst defenses. It's not just hey, we're stopping the run, 571 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: but boy, they're putting up a lot of yards on 572 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 2: us through the air. Michael Parsons is a game changer. 573 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 2: He wrecks games. The only way you would be better 574 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 2: is if Michael Parsons doesn't play for Green Bay. He's 575 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 2: banged up or doesn't play well. What are the odds 576 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: of a guy who's twenty six with a big chip 577 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 2: on his shoulder now, and you got to live up 578 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: to that contract going to underproduce. This reminds me of 579 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 2: the Khalil Mack deal when the Bears acquired him. The 580 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 2: Raiders got more from the Bears, then the Cowboys got, 581 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 2: you know, for Micah Parsons from green Back, you got 582 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 2: to first and then you got a couple other draft 583 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 2: picks for you know, Klo Mac and very similar, similar age, 584 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: similar production. And I've just I kept thinking, you got 585 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 2: to get more. I thought it was three first round picks. 586 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 2: Do you know Jamal Adams was traded for three first 587 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 2: round picks? That's a safety. Seattle gave up. And see, 588 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 2: you know, Seattle's got a great front office. They gave 589 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 2: up three first round picks for Jamal Adams. You gotta 590 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 2: get more, you gotta shop him, and you didn't do that. 591 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 2: But is is Jerry's ego in the way here? You know, 592 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 2: everybody wants to make the herschel Walker analogy. It's not. 593 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: I Meanjimmy Johnson was running the show. Jimmy Johnson orchestrated 594 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: the value they were going to get for herschel Walker, 595 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 2: and it changed the franchise. This isn't changing the franchise 596 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,520 Speaker 2: because if I look at the average pick draft pick, 597 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 2: first round pick of the Packers the last five drafts, 598 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: so where they're going to finish, that's where the Cowboys 599 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 2: are getting that draft pick twenty three to twenty five, 600 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 2: twenty eight, twenty nine. Now they did add the fifteenth pick, 601 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: that was the Aaron Rodgers pick swap with the Jets. 602 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 2: But now you just added Michael Parsons to a team 603 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: that could be an NFC title contender. And now they are. 604 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: They're certainly they're Super Bowl contender. And the odds Packers 605 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 2: were plus two thousand to win the Super Bowl. They're 606 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 2: now plus twelve hundred. They were plus eleven hundred to 607 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: win the NFC, now plus six hundred. Dallas plus five 608 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: thousand to win the Super Bowl, They're now plus seven thousand. 609 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 2: They were plus twenty two to win the NFC. There 610 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: now plus three thousand. You're not better. Now, let's see 611 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: what you do with the draft picks. But you know, 612 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 2: with the clock ticking, Jerry wanting to win another Super Bowl. 613 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 2: Dak's not getting any younger, thirty two, been banged up, 614 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:25,720 Speaker 2: You're paying him sixty million dollars. I just didn't understand it. Now, 615 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: we'll talk to both sides, you know, we'll talk to 616 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: reporters with the Packers and the Cowboys and get their 617 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: thoughts on, you know, tell me how that doesn't work 618 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 2: out for the Packers, tell me how this does work 619 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 2: out for the Cowboys, because that's what this is all about. 620 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: And I just didn't understand how Jerry put himself in 621 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 2: this position. I didn't think he would trade him away, 622 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 2: and I was wondering, was I more surprised that Luca 623 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 2: got traded to the Lakers or Micah Parsons got traded 624 00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 2: to the Packers, And neither of these teams shop they're stars. 625 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 2: Dallas talked to the Lakers, Dallas talked to the Packers. 626 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 2: I'm sure other teams got in. Maybe I haven't heard 627 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 2: anybody who said, hey, this team is offering this, but 628 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 2: you keep him in the NFC, A team you're going 629 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 2: to play in a month, a really good team. This 630 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 2: is where you trade him to Carolina at Green Bay. 631 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 2: This is why I'll never be a billionaire, you know, 632 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 2: This is another reason why I won't be a billionaire. 633 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: I can't think like Jerry does. Hey, great businessman, okay, 634 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,520 Speaker 2: great businessman. You're the one who extended Dak, you brought 635 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 2: Zeke back again, you didn't get the true value for Michael, 636 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 2: I mean, not just recent here waited on cd LEM. 637 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 2: It goes back to what we've said for months. Now, 638 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: act on it. If you truly believe that's the guy, 639 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 2: then act on it. Because you knew if we get 640 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 2: in at forty and a half instead of forty seven, 641 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 2: which is what Green Bay paid. Now it's you know, 642 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 2: we saved seven million this year, and then seven million 643 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 2: the following year and seven million. So this is a big, 644 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 2: big whiff. And we said it from the beginning right now, 645 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 2: sign him. Being indecisive in sports is death, and they 646 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 2: were indecisive. If you if you thought you were going 647 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: to keep him, then sign him up. 648 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 5: I don't know. 649 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 2: How well liked he was. I think he he certainly 650 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 2: had a lot to say. I'm going to choose my 651 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:49,959 Speaker 2: words carefully once again, But and I wonder Stephen Jones's 652 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 2: role in this. You know, Jerry's going to be given 653 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 2: this team to his son at some point, and I 654 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 2: wonder if Stephen Jones was made be the architect. It's 655 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: easy to, you know, blame Jerry. I can blame Jerry 656 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 2: for the previous months. But you had to get to 657 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: a point where and there's no board of directors. Everybody 658 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 2: you know who's on the masthead and his name is Jones, 659 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 2: and you just have a family outing and then you 660 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 2: have to discuss, all right, what are we doing? They 661 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 2: changed tradition here and Jerry with his hand handshake nonsense 662 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: and about the team. And it was a handshake agreement. Okay, 663 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 2: but you can't have handshake agreements that are binding with 664 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: a player, and you don't allow to have an agent 665 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 2: in there. Mind boggling. What else did Jerry have to say? Yeah, 666 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 2: let's see. Oh, here, here he is. There's Jerry talking 667 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: about his offer to Michael Parsons back in April. 668 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,879 Speaker 6: When I offered Micah the contract that offered him back 669 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,720 Speaker 6: in April, helew him from out of the country, wanted 670 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:04,920 Speaker 6: to come right in. I said, no, get your night 671 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,360 Speaker 6: sleep and come on in the next day. Get your 672 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 6: next day. He wanted to come right in. We offered 673 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 6: him a contract to come play for the Dallas Cowboys, 674 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 6: and it was a good one. Okay, now it was 675 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 6: more guaranteed than what I've been reported that was here 676 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 6: and now. But my point is, without getting into detail, 677 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,160 Speaker 6: that was a very genuine negotiation. 678 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 2: Okay, get into detail, Jerry, feel free. Now you can 679 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 2: let us behind the curtain here. I think if you 680 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 2: have a GM, a true GM who has power, you 681 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 2: don't get to this point. I think that GM goes 682 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 2: you know what, This isn't about a handshake agreement. This 683 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 2: is about an agreement, and there is a process to this. 684 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 2: That's what's surprising. 685 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 5: And I. 686 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 2: You're not bad today. And I just think if you 687 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 2: had some kind of fiscal sanity attached to this, you 688 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 2: could have kept him. If you wanted to, you could 689 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 2: have kept him. And I don't think it would have 690 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 2: crushed you salary wise. And the cap keeps going up 691 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,720 Speaker 2: every year. He might turn out to be a bargain. 692 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 2: Go back to when you know the Chiefs were signing 693 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 2: my homes and it's a ten year, five hundred million 694 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 2: dollar deal. I came in the next day and I 695 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 2: said they got a bargain. When Bryce Harper went to 696 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 2: the Phillies, I said, the Phillies got a bargain there. 697 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 2: There are certain contracts where you go do it. Oh man, 698 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 2: it's going to hurt, but it's not going to hurt later. 699 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 2: If you're buying what buy value by quality and you've 700 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 2: got two draft picks who don't help you this year. 701 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,880 Speaker 2: Kenny Clark better stop every running back. But it's a 702 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,319 Speaker 2: bad defense. I thought they could have competed. I thought 703 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 2: that they could have competed and been a playoff team. 704 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 2: I really did. Dak healthy, Cede Lamb, Micah is going 705 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 2: to get paid now all of a sudden, you know, 706 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 2: Dallas is going to be formidable. Now they would lose 707 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 2: tragically in the postseason, of course, like they always do. 708 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: But still, you had a chance to compete this year 709 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,240 Speaker 2: and you don't. Now you're going to get some wins, 710 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 2: and you know what it'll be. It'll be a glimmer 711 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 2: of god what could have been. But the only way, 712 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: in my opinion, that doesn't work out is if Micah 713 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,600 Speaker 2: doesn't work out. Because now you're going to get the 714 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 2: twenty eighth pick in the draft. 715 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 5: Good luck. 716 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,800 Speaker 2: Kenny Clark better be great, Dak better be great, Ceede 717 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 2: Lamb better have an unbelievable season. But you can't tell 718 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 2: me the cowboys are better today than they were yesterday.