1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: All right, this is the Doug Gottlieb Show. Heres in 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: the Bonus with Doug Gottlieb. 3 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:10,479 Speaker 2: Up. 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 3: Doug Gottlieb Show. In the Bonus Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio 5 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 3: app Welcome in. You know I was I was watching 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 3: the NBA last night and then obviously the story of 7 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 3: the day we covered a ton on the radio show. 8 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 3: Uh is the you know, the arrest of Terry Rogier, 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 3: the arrest of johnsy Phillips, the arrest of thirty people 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 3: in this illegal gambling ring. And Chris Purfett, who's on 11 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,839 Speaker 3: our board. Of course, he does a podcast in regards 12 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 3: to Detroit Sports. He said something which I actually agree with, 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 3: but I want to be different, which is he was, 14 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: were you watching the game last night? You're watching Spurs Mavericks? 15 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 3: Because I was watchings. 16 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 4: Yeah, I was. 17 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 3: I was two, and I mean all everybody I know 18 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: in basketball were techeing each other, like, are you fucking 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 3: kidding me? With this guy, Victor Webbin Yama. You know 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 3: two years ago he was so thin, so frail. You're like, yeah, 21 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 3: as long as he doesn't break, he'll be pretty good. 22 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: And then you know he's got hurt. He had the 23 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: deep ban thum thrombosis, which that scares the crap out 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: of anybody. Last night, he had forty points, fifteen rebounds. 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 3: He only had one one assist that that part has 26 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: to but he only took twenty one shots, hit a three, 27 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 3: made most of his free throws. They beat the Dallas 28 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 3: Mavericks one twenty five to ninety two. 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 4: Two. 30 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 3: I'm not I continue to wonder who told uh? Who 31 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 3: told Jason Kidd, a former point guard, it was a 32 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 3: good idea to play Cooper flag at the point because 33 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: tripling the ball at the court does not a point 34 00:01:55,080 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: guard make. But whatever, Uh anyway, I just I'm not 35 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 3: gonna take de bait. Yes, radio show, we have to 36 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 3: talk about the gambling, and it's those stories that Jayce 37 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: brought up. It's like, wait, this really happens. They really 38 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: have mark cards and glasses that can read mark cards. 39 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: Like this illegal gambling ring stuff really happened. Yes, it 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: really really happens. It does. It really happens. But I 41 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:30,679 Speaker 3: think the bigger story actually is Victor webin Yama arriving 42 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 3: on the scene. Deep bane thrombosis can end your sports career. 43 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 3: Like you, you can have all kinds of medical issues 44 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 3: so to come back from that to looking like an 45 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 3: absolute superstar, and we can say what we want about, Hey, 46 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 3: they don't have Kyrie or whatever. It's not like they 47 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 3: don't have guys his size to cover him. I mean, 48 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: no one has a seven foot four, seven foot five 49 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: dude to cover him. But they have Anthony Davis, they 50 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: have Derek Lively, they have you kind of go through 51 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 3: their roster. It is a defense first roster. That's how 52 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 3: they're built. You know, from PJ. Washington to Cooper Flag 53 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 3: to Anthony Davis to Derek Lively, go through and they 54 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: have they have Dwight Powell Act. They even have they 55 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 3: even have molmos se say excuse me, Moosasa moose to 56 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 3: sees played at Ole Miss at Oklahoma State, at Memphis, 57 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 3: great shop blocker, huge. None of them could do anything 58 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: with this kid at all. Nothing. So yes, the salacious 59 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 3: story should be told. Is it crazy? Yeah? All these 60 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: stories are nuts. You're like, wait, this stuff is really 61 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 3: going on, Like Terry Rozier checking out of a game 62 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: and being so brazen and all this money being thrown down, 63 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 3: and then the fact that the the day the FBI 64 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 3: announces these arrests is the day after the NCAA had 65 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: passed and goes into existence rule that college athletes and 66 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: coaches can bet on professional sports. You're like, no, this 67 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 3: is why not because the people who are associated with 68 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: illegal gambling and what happens when you get behind all 69 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 3: those things. Don't get me wrong, That's a bigger national 70 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 3: and international story today. Victor Webbinyam is the bigger story 71 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 3: long term. Last night it's not the playoffs. His team's 72 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: not there yet. But last night was the first night 73 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: that anybody who watches like that dog will hunt. That 74 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: guy's a problem, not just in the future, but in 75 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 3: the present. 76 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of The Doug Gottlieb 77 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: Show weekdays at three pm Eastern noon Pacific on Fox 78 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 79 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: Let's Get to the Fox says every day, this time 80 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,880 Speaker 3: in the Doug Gottlieb Show in the Bonus podcast to 81 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 3: play for your portion of previous show Fox Sports Radio, 82 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: Fox Sports One. Here's Colin Cowhard talk about the ongoing 83 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 3: nostalgia the NBA has with the NBA and NBC. 84 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 5: And I think there's a lot of things that the 85 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 5: NBA did wrong that they're trying to switch Adam Silver 86 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 5: would admit this, Please embrace college basketball. College basketball's best 87 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 5: players are now staying in college longer because of the 88 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:36,799 Speaker 5: nil embrace March madness, get Anton TV, Cooper Flag on TV, 89 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 5: and get Tyrese Halliburton on every network, Amazon, NBC, ABCESPN 90 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 5: during your telecast. The kid is completely likable, he's engaging, 91 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 5: he's funny. So my take is the last American MVP 92 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 5: was James Harden in twenty eighteen. That is your reality. 93 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 5: The best players are international and they're unbelievable. I mean, 94 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 5: KD is not the player Alprin Chenguniz. Last night Shanguon 95 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 5: couldn't hit threes and pass and rebound, and it's unbelievable. 96 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 5: How good these international bigs are unbelievable. But we've seen 97 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 5: the KD and the staff and Lebron and MJ sixty 98 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 5: two and they're all great. But you got to turn 99 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 5: the page on this thing. You gotta market your young guys. 100 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,280 Speaker 5: Baseball's done it. Take a page from baseball. They've done 101 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 5: a great job. 102 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 3: There was a lot there. That was a lot. You 103 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: got to market your young guys, of course you do, 104 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 3: but you also have to Nobody goes to the to 105 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: watch a game based upon Alfred Chane Gun. They just don't. 106 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: I don't think the NBA has a marketing problem. They 107 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 3: have a bit of an image problem, and today's news 108 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 3: did not help. Did not help. Here's Chris Bers sorry 109 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 3: talking about SGA. 110 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 6: If SGA was a high flyer, forget playing like Michael Jordan, 111 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 6: if he played like John Moran, I think he'd already 112 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 6: be viewed as the best player in the world. I 113 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 6: really Now you can argue that I think Yo can 114 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 6: the best player in the world. He obviously better rebounder, 115 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 6: better passers, scores as much more efficient all that. But 116 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 6: if SGA had this ultra electrifying game Kobe Jah Jordan 117 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 6: would I think he would be viewed as the best guy. 118 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 6: And look, so Nick I went down just back, not 119 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,840 Speaker 6: all the way back, but starting with Kareem Best. The 120 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 6: best players in the world have always had something unique 121 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 6: about them, unicornish, like they're kind of the only one 122 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 6: or one of the few that does it. Kareem had 123 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 6: the most unique shot ever, the skyhook. Magic was a 124 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 6: six to nine point guard with incredible passing skills. Jordan, 125 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 6: of course, a high flyer. Kobe similar to Jordan high flyers. 126 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 6: Shaq humongous lebron six' nine does EVERYTHING i think the 127 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 6: route for. Him there's one GUY i left, Out Tim. 128 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: Duncan, okay what why do He why do you leave him? Out? 129 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: Oh because he's not a high. Flyer, YEAH i don't 130 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 3: Think Michael. Jordan obviously he made his name as a high. 131 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: Flyer Michael. Jordan though it wasn't the dunks that people 132 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: end up, watching it was the. DOMINANCE i don't. KNOW i, 133 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: mean here's a guy who's a great mid range shooter 134 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 3: with with the with the lack of existence of a 135 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 3: great mid range game being taught or being embraced by most, 136 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 3: coaches myself, included by the way in basketball He's. Canadian 137 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 3: he doesn't jump off the, page he doesn't have a big. 138 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: PERSONALITY i actually think that The spurs are the perfect 139 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: analogy to this. Team this is a, really really good. 140 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 3: Team they're gonna get better if the egos continue to 141 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: be held in, check they're gonna get. Better the sky 142 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:53,320 Speaker 3: is the limit Because Chad holmgren has a chance to 143 00:08:53,480 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: maybe not be a, superstar but an all star caliber 144 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 3: third best, player hit a big, three but then he 145 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 3: fouled out right you have another, weapon, again An american born. 146 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 3: Star maybe he's not a high. FLYER i don't think 147 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 3: anybody gives a crap about who's a high flyer and who's. 148 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: NOT i just, don't you, Know luca's super, popular he's 149 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: not a high. FLYER i. DON'T i don't get that 150 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: one at. All Jalen williams is the other. Guy and, 151 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,560 Speaker 3: again this is a team that's built based upon defense 152 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 3: and understated stars and are they going to be covered 153 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 3: and have the love that other people? Know but some 154 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: of that comes down to how they've individually been marketed 155 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 3: before this during, it location of the, team style of, 156 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 3: play and who they are as. People Here's Dan patrick 157 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 3: talking About brown's head Coach Kevin stefanski being asked questions 158 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 3: About Shadoor sanders getting first team reps in. 159 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 7: Practice the media's obsession With Shadoor sanders getting playing time 160 00:09:56,280 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 7: is interesting because has anybody asked the question to The 161 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 7: Tennessee titans about their backup quarterback getting any? Reps is 162 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,200 Speaker 7: anybody asking if the backup To Jackson dart is getting 163 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 7: any reps with the first? Team the media is obsessed 164 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:20,079 Speaker 7: with this With Shador. Sanders Dylan gabriel is. Played, okay he's, Played, 165 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 7: okay that doesn't mean you've got to put In. SHADOR 166 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 7: i Hope chador gets an, opportunity BUT i hope it's 167 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 7: not one of those, let's you, know do him a 168 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 7: solid and have him. Play Dylan gabriel is a better 169 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 7: quarterback right now Than Shador. Sanders it's plain and. Simple 170 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 7: not many fifth round draft picks get this kind of. 171 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 7: Attention and, granted it has to do With Dion and you, 172 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 7: know a source with The browns, said, well do you 173 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 7: think if his Name wasn't last name Wasn't, sanders would 174 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 7: he have been drafted? Higher would he have been given this? 175 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 7: OPPORTUNITY i, SAID i don't obsess over. This you, know 176 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 7: here's another thing nobody's talking about because they don't want 177 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 7: to talk about. It Deshaun watson's going to be back this. 178 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 7: YEAR i believe In. Cleveland, Correct Deshaun watson could return 179 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 7: to being the starting quarterback With. Cleveland let that sink it. 180 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 3: Correct dan's one hundred percent. Correct. Correct that's the part 181 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 3: that hasn't been. MENTIONED i don't know what people's obsession 182 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 3: with it, are BUT i he. Is he was a 183 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 3: very popular PLAYER i don't know if people are as 184 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 3: obsessed as the media wants to make, it but we 185 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: are seemingly chasing the. Story it feels it feels like 186 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 3: A tebow. Story but it, also if we're, honest you, 187 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 3: know some of this is nobody really believes In Dylan, 188 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 3: gabriel and if The browns really, did why would they 189 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: draft another? Quarterback SO i don't obsess of, it BUT 190 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 3: i do check to see How Dylan gabriel's. Playing he 191 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 3: did play, well they did win a. Game that's gotta 192 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: buy him several more starts before we ever even think about. 193 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: This but now those questions become a little bit more 194 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 3: legitimate because he is the second quarterback and you're starting 195 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: a third round draft. Pickrookie that's what The fox said. 196 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: Say be sure to catch live editions Of The Doug 197 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: Gottlieb show weekdays at three Pm eastern Noon pacific On 198 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 1: Fox Sports radio and The iHeartRadio. 199 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 3: App it's The Doug Gottlieb show here On Fox Sports. 200 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 3: Radio let's catch up with a good friend of, mine 201 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 3: a guy who HAS i just. Say go to his 202 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 3: WEBSITES k four ratings dot. Com you can fall him 203 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: on social media as, well they got everything from gear 204 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 3: AND t shirts to projections and most. DESERVING i like. 205 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 3: THAT i like the projections because it's where we try 206 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:52,559 Speaker 3: and figure out what are the games you're most gonna 207 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 3: want to watch this weekend without just looking for numbers 208 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 3: or point spreads or. Whatever K ford. Ratings It's Kelly 209 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 3: ford is our guest here on The Doug Gottlieb. Show 210 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 3: let's go through some of this. Stuff the most interesting 211 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 3: stories in college football collide In, Bloomington. Indiana THE Ucla. 212 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: Bruins THE Ucla bruins taken on The Indiana hoosiers AND 213 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,719 Speaker 3: ucla has won three in a row after firing their 214 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 3: coach To Shaun, foster's by the, way friend of. Mine 215 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 3: three games in the, season and you know they take 216 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 3: Down Penn. State but that was back When Penn state was. 217 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: Healthy now they traveled To. Indiana another interesting, story, Right 218 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: you got a coach who's suddenly gone from many people 219 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 3: to know who he was a couple of years, ago 220 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 3: high From James madison to now one of the highest 221 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: bided coach in the. Country last, year they get to 222 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 3: The College Fall. Playoff this, year they backed it up 223 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 3: with a seven zero, start including a win Over oregon At, 224 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 3: OREGON i use a twenty six and a half point. 225 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: Favorite do your projections have this as a closer game. 226 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 8: Than, That, yeah DOREG i have that is just about, right, 227 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 8: actually and you're. Right these are two very interesting. Stories of, 228 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 8: Course indiana a team that maybe has overachieved for straight 229 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 8: years now more than anybody. Expected they've been upgraded in 230 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:16,479 Speaker 8: the model by fourteen. Points the model now Views indiana 231 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 8: as two full touchdowns better today than it did in the. 232 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 8: Preseason so What Kurt signetti is, DOING i, mean this 233 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 8: is a top ten offense defense number four right. Now for, 234 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 8: me it's simply. Incredible BUT i have a ninety seven 235 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 8: percent win expectancy on this. Game for The Hoosiers, ucla 236 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 8: as you, noted they've got quite a turnaround going right, 237 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 8: now and it's been impressive to see what they're doing Since, 238 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 8: foster since they made a change at the head coach. 239 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 8: Position but Still indiana is rolling right, now And ucla 240 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 8: they're the number two most improved team in the last. 241 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 8: Month BUT i just like The. Hoosiers they're at. Home 242 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 8: it's a big noon kickoff If i'm not, mistaken which 243 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 8: that's nine am local time FOR ucla and those players 244 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 8: on their. Clock so everything about this Screens, indiana and 245 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 8: MY modla does like them by the. Spread so it's 246 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 8: a big game The. Hoosiers, no they can't. STUMBLE i 247 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 8: don't expect them, to AND i do think they're going 248 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 8: to cover as. Well So indiana is on course to 249 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 8: Play Ohio state in The Big Ten championships. Game and 250 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 8: if you would have said at the beginning of the, 251 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 8: season even after last year's success IS i think most 252 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 8: would have rolled their. 253 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: Eyes, okay let's get to one of my favorite games 254 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 3: of the. Weekend Oh, miss fresh off of a devastating 255 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: loss at at on the, road they take On. Oklahoma 256 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: oklahoma bounce back from loss To texas with a big 257 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: win At South. Carolina and this is just Like Murderer's 258 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 3: row for both these. Teams John mattier back was, better 259 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 3: obviously wasn't good Versus. Texas Oh use a five and 260 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 3: a half point favorite at. Home the totals fifty two 261 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: and a. 262 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 8: Half, Yeah i've Got oklahoma with a sixty six percent 263 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 8: win expectancy in this. One and you're, right Murderers, ROW i, Mean. 264 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 8: Doug if we look forward For oklahoma in, particular they're 265 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 8: remaining five regular season. Games from a watchability, standpoint which 266 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 8: for me is a weighted average of team quality the 267 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 8: two teams, involved and then a projected. Spread so, basically 268 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 8: how quality are the, teams how competitive we effect the 269 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 8: game to. Be it's a scale of zero to. Ten 270 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 8: oklahoma's five remaining games score nine point, seven nine point, 271 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 8: six nine point, five nine point, six nine point. Six 272 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 8: every single one of their remaining games is a nine 273 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 8: point five or better for me on a scale of 274 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 8: zero to, ten this game is going to be Fantastic. 275 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 8: Oklahoma with, that you know sixty six percent win expect. 276 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 8: Seas so you played this game three, times we expect 277 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 8: The sooners to win it. Twice old miss is coming 278 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 8: off of that disappointing loss To georgia and they know 279 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 8: this is their last kind of really high quality opponent they're. 280 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 8: Playing it's no disrespect To South carolina's no disrespect To 281 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 8: florida or a road trips To Mississippi. State But Old myth, 282 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 8: knows if we win this, one we are liking our 283 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 8: chances to finish this regular season at eleven and, one 284 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 8: and that could put them in the common station first 285 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,000 Speaker 8: spot In. Atlanta it would certainly be putting them into 286 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 8: college football Playoff oklahoma with that murderers row coming. Up 287 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 8: this one's very, important and they bounce back after The 288 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 8: Red river shootout loss with a nice win on the 289 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 8: road In columbia last week against the Game. Cocks this 290 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 8: game is very, important important for both of these. Teams 291 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 8: my numbers Like. OKLAHOMA i like them with the slight 292 00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 8: advantage on both sides of the. Ball woo'd buy this 293 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,560 Speaker 8: defense that's number three in the entire. Country Only Ohio 294 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 8: state And texas have better defenses by my model than 295 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 8: The sooners do this. Year and SO i Like oklahoma 296 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 8: the fact that in norm im provides them that extra boost. 297 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,199 Speaker 8: TWO i Expect oklahoma to get it. Done but this 298 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 8: is going to, be as you, said a very very good. 299 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 3: Game all, right let's keep it in THE. Sec missouri's 300 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 3: taken On, vanderbilt and Obviously vanderbilt has the outside of 301 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 3: The alabama. Game they are not your Father's vanderbilt commodorece 302 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 3: playing at home against The missoo. Squad vanderbilt is a 303 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 3: two and a half point favorite with a fifty two 304 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 3: and a half. 305 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 8: Total what does the model, Say i've got this exactly 306 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 8: fifty to fifty, dougs fifty percent win expectancy for both 307 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 8: teams in this. Game it's the definition of a pick. 308 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 8: Them for, me What i've been most impressed with By 309 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 8: vanderbilt is this. Offense can we talk a lot About 310 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 8: Diego pavia and you either love him or you hate. 311 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 8: Him there's a lot Of Johnny manzela in. There this 312 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 8: offense is number three in the entire. Country The model's 313 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 8: been Upgraded vanderbilt this season ten points since the, preseason 314 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 8: so that's number five. Nationally talked About indiana being upgraded 315 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 8: two full, Touchdowns vanderbilt right behind them there kind of 316 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 8: in that, metric doug there's a fifty percent chance right 317 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 8: now That vanderbilt wins at least nine regular season. GAMES i, 318 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 8: mean it's truly remarkable What Clark lee and this coaching 319 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 8: staff has done In. Nashville and this game is going 320 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 8: to be very. COMPETITIVE i expect it to be very very. Close, 321 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 8: missouri the model was taken them back a little bit 322 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 8: by the double overtime performance last week At, auburn but 323 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 8: this is still a very Good missouri, team number sixteen 324 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 8: in the midle top twenty on both sides of the, 325 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 8: Ball So vanderbilt has the best union in this game on. 326 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 8: Offense the worst unit, though is The vanderbilt defense at 327 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 8: number forty. Two it's a straight up pick them for. 328 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,360 Speaker 8: Me should be very very good and as we look 329 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,600 Speaker 8: forward here For, missouri they're off next week and Then 330 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 8: TEXAS a AND m comes To columbia the week after. 331 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 8: That they close the two road games At oklahoma and At. 332 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 8: Arkansas missouri has played a relatively weak schedule to this. 333 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 8: POINT i think for them to achieve the goals that 334 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 8: they have this, year they need to win this. Game 335 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 8: so there's a lot on the. Line it's not an 336 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 8: elimination game for. Me and this is only the number, 337 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 8: two the second loss for either of these, teams SO 338 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 8: i think they can still bounce back and make THE. 339 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 8: Cfp But missouri knows they've got to win this, ONE 340 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 8: i think if they want to achieve their goals for this. 341 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 3: Season Stug Gottlieb show here On Fox Sports Trailers Kelly 342 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 3: ford who joins US byu huge win in the in 343 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 3: The Holy war last week Against. Utah now they travel 344 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 3: To Iowa, state who it's really interesting What Matt campbell's done, 345 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 3: right because if you, said, Hey Iowa states five and 346 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 3: two soft finish to their, schedule you, know looking at 347 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 3: sevent eight, wins be like that's. Great, well but the 348 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: expectations have been raised because of his success. There they've 349 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 3: lost two in a, row both road. Games now they 350 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 3: come back home To Jack Trice stadium and they welcome 351 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 3: IN Byu Iowa state to two and a half point. 352 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: Favorite doesn't this one stream home team AGAINST? 353 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 8: Yu, Yeah, doug it does because as you, said they've 354 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 8: lost two in a, row they were off last week AND, 355 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 8: byu as you, noted had the very Emotional Holy war 356 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 8: win at. Home so this is one where you'd, expect you, 357 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 8: KNOW byu they got to come back to, earth they 358 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 8: got to. Refocus they're undefeated this, season And Iowa state 359 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 8: had the week. Off they're they're licking their. Wounds, yes 360 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 8: it does on the, surface Scream Iowa state the home team, 361 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 8: here and that's why they're the. Favorite if we kind 362 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,679 Speaker 8: of strip away some of those scheduling dynamics from a 363 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 8: strictly modeling, standpoint my numbers actually LIKE byu very slightly, 364 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 8: here fifty five percent win. Expectancy the defense is really. 365 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 8: Good number eleven in the. Country the offense is top, 366 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,680 Speaker 8: thirty so that is the difference. There though THE byu 367 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 8: DEFENSE i think should have a significant. Advantage are they 368 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 8: able to? Refocus if this was a five and TWO 369 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 8: byu team that just beat their big rivals In, Utah 370 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 8: i'd be more. Concerned this team is seven and. Zero 371 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,439 Speaker 8: everything that they want is in front of. Them, STILL 372 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 8: i Expect Colony satake and that staff to be able 373 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 8: to get them. Refocused going To Ames iowa's. Hard ask 374 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 8: anybody that's played there Since Matt campbell's been the head, 375 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 8: coach they are not going to overlook this. GAME byu 376 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 8: is off next, week so there's no look ahead spot 377 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 8: before a tricky trip to Lubb it to Play texas 378 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 8: TEX i think there is some value here in TAKING, 379 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 8: byu either you, know with the points or just straight 380 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 8: up to win this one money. LINE i LIKE byu 381 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 8: in this. GAME i like this, TEAM i love this, 382 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 8: defense and they are for me right now a favorite 383 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 8: to make it To arlington at the end of the. 384 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 3: Season my favorite game of the weekend Is Brian kelly 385 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,959 Speaker 3: suddenly now under pressure AT lsu and a guy who's 386 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 3: had good offenses and had coming in the, year really good. 387 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 3: Quarterback now they're at home And TEXAS a AND m 388 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 3: is number three in the country and looking like a 389 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 3: team that can play in The College Fball playoff and 390 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 3: play for AN sec. Championship what's the model say in 391 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 3: regards to The aggies Usiting Death. 392 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 8: Valley, Yeah i've got a fifty four percent win expectancy 393 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 8: here in favor OF, lsu and, so you, know coming 394 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 8: off of a disappointing loss on the road At, VANDERBILT 395 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 8: i EXPECT lsu to be playing like their college football 396 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 8: playoff lives are on the, line BECAUSE i think they. 397 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 8: Are we saw last year from THE, sec you, know 398 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 8: whether it Was South carolina Or alabama Or Old, miss 399 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 8: nine and three wasn't good. Enough And i'm not convinced 400 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 8: that it's going to be good enough this. YEAR lsu 401 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 8: knows from this point forward we have no margin for 402 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 8: air and they still have road trips To alabama Into. 403 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 8: Norman they cannot afford to lose this. GAME i expect 404 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:59,879 Speaker 8: them to be playing like that on This, saturday AND 405 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,600 Speaker 8: i think they're going to have enough to get it. 406 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 8: Done this defense is incredibly, good number six in the. 407 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,919 Speaker 8: Country what's, surprising and you touched on, It. Doug you 408 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 8: know you Got nutsmeyer. Quarterback people are talking about The 409 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 8: Heisman trophy in the. Preseason they have not performed to 410 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 8: the level of. Expectation they fallen significantly. Short they're barely 411 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 8: top fifty on that side of the ball for, me 412 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,879 Speaker 8: and that's gonna be challenging because This TEXAS a AND 413 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 8: m offense is really good at the top ten. Unit 414 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 8: but they're going on the road and they were just 415 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 8: on the road At arkansas last week in a big rivalry. 416 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 8: Game now they go To Depth, valley one of the 417 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 8: toughest places to play in the entire entire. Country this 418 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 8: should be a very competitive GAME a AND. M if 419 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 8: they get this, One doug has to, start you, know 420 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 8: it'd be human nature to start thinking about the cost 421 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 8: ball playoffs because they're off next. Week then they go 422 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 8: on the road To columbia to Play, missouri they get 423 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 8: the Game cocks In College station after that BEFORE Fcs, 424 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 8: stanford and then of course you end then the season 425 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 8: on the road In austin against a big rival In. 426 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 8: Texas BUT i, mean you're going to be eight to 427 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 8: o if you win this, one and that means a 428 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 8: two and two finish is going to be, ENOUGH i would, 429 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 8: think AND i think they're gonna get. That SO a 430 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 8: AND m knows if we win this, one we are 431 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 8: in a very very good. POSITION lsu. Knows if we 432 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 8: don't win this, one it could be over stakes to 433 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 8: not be. Higher Brian kelly and his team have their 434 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 8: backs up against the. Wall i'm with. YOU i am most. 435 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 8: EXCITED i think about any game this, weekend that's this. 436 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 8: ONE lsu In, TEXAS. 437 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 3: A AND m should be, great should be, Great, kelly 438 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 3: your energy for, this your passion for the, site of, 439 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 3: course fall on social. Media Kelly ford, Ratings kate K 440 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 3: ford Ratings Index fall on social, media go to his. 441 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: Website he loves and covers college football as much as 442 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 3: anybody who does, it and it just has this unique 443 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 3: ability to make it make sense with the WATCHABILITY i 444 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 3: think is the. Best it really. Does use this computer 445 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 3: model to give you what's most likely to be the 446 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 3: best games of the. Weekend, kelly thanks so much for 447 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 3: being a. Guest we'll talk to you next. 448 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,919 Speaker 8: Week thank. You doug appreciate. 449 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 6: It as. 450 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 3: Always let's find out who what is Annoying Jason stewart. 451 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: And now it's your. 452 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 9: Annoying right The broncos won the game On, Sunday Sean 453 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 9: payton had this quote his comment, afterwards it was like 454 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 9: a thinly veiled shot At Russell, wilson you. Buyer everyone 455 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 9: in the industry took it as a shot At Russell. 456 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 9: Wilson it was obviously a thinly veiled shot At Russell. 457 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 9: Wilson and Then Russell wilson himself knew that it was 458 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 9: a shot at, him so he sent out a tweet 459 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 9: calling the coach, classless among other. Things and Then Sean, 460 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 9: payton in this moment that we were waiting for the third, 461 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 9: act the third part of, this he was going to. 462 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 9: Respond so he got up on the podium yesterday and 463 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 9: addressed the whole thing this, way. 464 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 10: The, euphoria the way that game, unfolded that was strictly 465 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 10: about Dark that was in no, way shape or form 466 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 10: anything that was directed At. Russ i'm might be able 467 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 10: to see how he might perceive, That but coming off 468 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:08,119 Speaker 10: that win and watching how he, played, yeah that that 469 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 10: wasn't any intention at. 470 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 9: ALL i was talking To bayer yesterday during our show 471 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 9: because this hasn't hadn't broken, yet AND i, said ninety 472 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 9: nine percent of head coaches would would try to deflect 473 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 9: this or try to completely put it away or not 474 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 9: even address. It but Like Sean payton's the one guy 475 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 9: that doesn't give a, Fuck like he has been crushing 476 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 9: people since he took that. Job remember that piece that 477 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 9: he just took aim At Nathaniel, Hackett LIKE i just 478 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 9: and he's he's had a, Career he's not beholden to any. 479 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 9: Anybody so it's LIKE i, thought for once we were 480 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 9: going to get a coach candidly clarifying what was wrong 481 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 9: With Russell. WILSON i really thought that there was gonna 482 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 9: be a third part of. This so the annoying part 483 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 9: is that he did what ninety nine percent of people 484 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 9: do and then he kind of treated us as, fools 485 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 9: as if no one actually thought it was a shot 486 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 9: At Russell. 487 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 3: Wilson, yeah, WELL i mean that part is that's The 488 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 3: these aren't the droids you're looking, for, Right that's What 489 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 3: that's what felt. Like, YEAH i JUST i felt like 490 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 3: she shot At Russell. Wills, no, no, oh he's the 491 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,360 Speaker 3: other quarterback with The. Giants, yeah out of. Here, YEAH 492 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 3: i used to coach him a couple of years. Ago, 493 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 3: yeah that feels like? Bullshit who? 494 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 9: ELSE i think the nod to us who know it 495 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 9: was About Russell wilson's when he SAID i could see 496 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 9: where he might take it that, way like that was 497 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 9: that was him given a little, bit but very. Disappointing 498 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 9: so the annoying part about this next topic is That 499 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,239 Speaker 9: i'm too old to know what the fuck this. Is 500 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 9: So Chris purfet the most educated person At Fox Sports. 501 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 9: Radio he's got like nine. Degrees, uh he's. Young he's 502 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 9: of the. YOUNGER i think he's in his. TWENTIES i 503 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 9: just turned, Thirty that's WHAT i. MET i think he's 504 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 9: in his, thirties maybe weight. Thirties he's a. Millennial, doug 505 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 9: you have a teenage. Son you coach players in their 506 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 9: late teens and early. Twenties Aman Ross Saint brown said 507 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,239 Speaker 9: something on his podcast this. Week he was clarifying a 508 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 9: gesture that he made in a touchdown celebration On monday. 509 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 9: Night so he does the, touchdown he does the way 510 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 9: between two things gesture that kind of looks like a 511 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 9: guy like weighing two melons and making fun of, breasts 512 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 9: and he says six or seven sixth, seventh sixth, Seven 513 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 9: so he tries to explain it to his brother, here what. 514 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 4: About your celebration? There what's up with? 515 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 5: That? 516 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 11: Hey, yeah that's a little six. Seven you know that 517 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 11: was my six touchdowns going to that, game that was my, 518 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 11: Seven so it only made sense for me to hit 519 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 11: the six. Seven you, KNOW i know the kids loved. 520 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 11: IT i loved. It what what it? MEANS i still 521 00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 11: have no clue what six to seven? Means but it's 522 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 11: just like six? Seven Accept do. 523 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 4: You have no idea what it? Means you can? Explain 524 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 4: do you know what it? Means? NO i MEAN i 525 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 4: thought you know WHAT i. MEAN i thought you knew 526 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 4: what it. Meant LIKE i thought that knows what it. 527 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 4: Means i'll someone comment in the converce. SESSION i didn't 528 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 4: know what that. MEANS i don't think there's a. Meaning 529 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 4: there's no it's just, okay we'll find. Out we'll find 530 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 4: out after. 531 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 9: This SO i went down a rabbit hole to see 532 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 9: exactly what where this derived from where it? Began are 533 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 9: either of you up to speed on what this? Means 534 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 9: has anyone explained to, You doug what six seven means 535 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 9: and why the rage on? 536 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: TikTok, nope no. Idea So i'm familiar with, it but 537 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: As i'm familiar with, IT i don't know what it. 538 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:37,160 Speaker 12: Means as far AS i can, tell there is no, 539 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 12: meaning like by. Design they we we love using this 540 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 12: term brain rot and it's very much so we've rounded 541 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 12: back around To. Dadaism we've rounded back around to like 542 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 12: this is just a thing for the sake of a, 543 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 12: Thing like maybe once upon time there was a, meaning 544 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 12: but we've so stripped the meaning out of, it and 545 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 12: nobody cares what the meaning is. Anymore we're just doing. It, 546 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 12: YEAH i think that's probably the best description of. Heard 547 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 12: so the rabbit hole THAT i went down there is 548 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 12: something that goes back to one of the ball brothers 549 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:11,480 Speaker 12: what's his name on edge And charlotte being six foot, seven, 550 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 12: yeah and then he did this thing where he is 551 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 12: six seven six eight thing and then he went back 552 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 12: and forth and all of a sudden it just took 553 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 12: off because it's a ball. Brother BUT i don't know 554 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 12: how it's become what it. Is and then you HAVE 555 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 12: nfl players doing it who can't even themselves explain what it. 556 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 12: Is it's it's really one of the true. Mysteries And 557 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 12: i'm glad we came to the conclusion that it means. 558 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,920 Speaker 12: Nothing you've just watched a bunch of people do it on, 559 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 12: TikTok so you just want to do it. Yourself THAT'S i. 560 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: MEAN i saw. 561 00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 12: It someone said it originated from a, rapper but THEN 562 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 12: i saw those lyrics And i'm LIKE i but, LIKE 563 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 12: i don't. KNOW i did art history and one of 564 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 12: my nine, degrees AND i appreciated it was about one 565 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 12: hundred years. Ago the term, dataism which is just nonsense 566 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 12: for the sake of. Nonsense there's a whole art style 567 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 12: of just. Absurdity and this is kind of what our 568 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 12: prevailing culture is with the internet, Now like this doesn't mean. 569 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 12: ANYTHING i don't think it's supposed to mean. Anything you're 570 00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,160 Speaker 12: just doing it because everyone else is doing it and 571 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 12: it's and like it triggered some part of your brain 572 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 12: where you just giggled a little. 573 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 9: Bit so there you. GO i hope the listeners learned something. 574 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 9: Today so to talk a, viola he's been a circus 575 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 9: at the podium for two weeks and He Jalen, WATTLE 576 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 9: i guess didn't get any, targets or maybe one or 577 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 9: two targets On. Sunday So tua was asked Why Jalen, 578 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 9: wattle his best, receiver did not get many. 579 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:40,320 Speaker 2: Targets, YEAH i think with with, that some of it 580 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 2: has to do with being able to see guys with 581 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: their guys also up front and our. 582 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 4: Guys And i'm not the tallest. 583 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: Guy in the back there, either so being able to 584 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,840 Speaker 2: see and then you, know sometimes when that, happens you 585 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: don't want to just throw. 586 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 4: It blindly and you got to. 587 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 2: Progress SO i think that that had some merit to 588 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 2: reasons as to why that happened for a. 589 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 9: WHILE i have a. Theory dog you, know there's a 590 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 9: thing called quiet, quitting and then there's just blatantly trying 591 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 9: to get fired knowing you have a guaranteed. Contract it 592 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 9: just seems like his his just is maybe you said 593 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 9: last week he's not very, bright but like it almost 594 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 9: seems like he's intentionally trying to get. Released when you say, 595 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 9: IT i probably just didn't see. Him i'm not that. 596 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:28,280 Speaker 3: Tall, yeah that part, Is that part is odd right 597 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 3: where it is something that you can use against Him Kyler, 598 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,959 Speaker 3: murray some of these other. Quarterbacks but forever there's been a. Pushbackup, 599 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 3: no they've been that tall their whole. Life they know 600 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 3: how to do, it AND i didn't think he said 601 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 3: it in a way in which it was he was 602 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 3: trying to be, funny he was being kind of matter of. 603 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 3: FACT i can't See you're, like well that's a. Problem 604 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 3: that's a. Problem. 605 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 9: Yeah so to six, seven the mystery of six seven 606 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 9: And Sean payton being, DISAPPOINTING. 607 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 3: I think it's the mystery of sixty. Seven i'll tell you. 608 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 3: Why you have lots of people doing these six to 609 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 3: seven celebrations, whatever and no one actually knows what it, Means, 610 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 3: like what if it meant something really? Sinister what if 611 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 3: it meant six seven ways to have death To? America 612 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: we just got to go along with it because it's a, 613 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 3: trend and for that it's Annoy. 614 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 4: Why are we doing? 615 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 8: THIS i do. 616 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: Because we. 617 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 9: Can we have the latest person on a hot mic 618 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 9: during a post game, Broadcast Victor Webbin, yama who had 619 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 9: an amazing season debut last night and then got a 620 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 9: little loose with it on the postgame. 621 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 4: Interview, well we worked for and All oliver's got our 622 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,920 Speaker 4: own battles and struggle was in uh jack throwers out 623 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 4: and work fucking. 624 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 11: Hunting this, summer so it's paying, off you, know all 625 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 11: dreams aren't allowed, now you. 626 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 4: Know i've just got to be back because after What i've, 627 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 4: lived if you made something. 628 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 3: Pretty, good WELL i could play for. You because we. 629 00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 3: Can't that's it for the end The Modes. Podcast check 630 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 3: out the radio show every day three to FIVE eastrom 631 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 3: twelve Two, Pacific Fox Sports. Radio iHeartRadio. App I'm Doug 632 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 3: gottlie