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Speaker 1: What up, y'all? This is your main manor Memphis Bleak

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Speaker 1: right here.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Rock Solid, a production of iHeart Radio and

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Speaker 2: the Black Effect Network in partnership with my guys over

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Speaker 2: at Drink Champs.

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Speaker 1: Big with this year Memphis.

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Speaker 3: Come back at it, niggas, notice the difference.

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Speaker 1: Just pro president, no Stones.

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Speaker 3: What it is your boy Memphis bleak back with a

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Speaker 3: new episode of Rock Solid. And you know if anybody

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Speaker 3: on this show, that mean they rock solid and they

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Speaker 3: my brothers. And I'm happy to announce I got my

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Speaker 3: real bro just Blaze in the studio being just go

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Speaker 3: black go back like dou.

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Speaker 1: Bag wavecaps Blurd. That's how me and my bro go back.

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Speaker 3: I met this guy nineteen ninety nine or ninety eight

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Speaker 3: going into ninety nine, and it's just been brotherhood since then.

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Speaker 3: So just appreciate you, my guyoming through.

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Speaker 1: You already know what it is. It's just a convo,

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Speaker 1: my brother. Good seeing you.

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Speaker 4: When's the last time you wore due rag wavecap?

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Speaker 3: When I retired, when I took there, when that's when

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Speaker 3: the due rat came off.

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Speaker 1: That's why a lot of people don't know. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm out.

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Speaker 3: I might have time about to drop some music right

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Speaker 3: And the first call I made, I did a song.

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Speaker 1: I called Just. I'm like, Yo, Just. I know you

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Speaker 1: don't make beats, but I need one. It's like, send

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Speaker 1: me to joint.

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Speaker 3: I sent it to him after you sent it back,

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Speaker 3: after I heard everything. You know, the name of the

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Speaker 3: record is due rag Bleek. All, mommy, the name of

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Speaker 3: that record is called du rat Bleak because I felt that's.

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Speaker 1: Where I was when I when I visited, like.

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Speaker 3: It was the skills of who I was there, But

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Speaker 3: the message is who I am now, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. So it's like you hear me, you hear

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Speaker 3: that young hunger and when you really listen, you're like

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Speaker 3: damn bleak talking that grown up talk.

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Speaker 1: That's why it's like it's due rag Bleak. Word up.

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Speaker 1: So what you've been up to? Man?

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Speaker 4: Man family?

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Speaker 1: I know, man fam definitely fan first. Man.

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Speaker 3: You got the beautiful kids out there vacation and every

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Speaker 3: way trying to compete with me, y'all.

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Speaker 4: We actually just came from Orlando a lot long ago.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, nah, just family, you know, uh bruh. My

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Speaker 4: wife and a couple of partners started uh video gameing

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Speaker 4: production studio called Grassline entertainment. So I helped with that,

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Speaker 4: you know, in terms of getting that up off the

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Speaker 4: ground and you end up and running. It's a beautiful

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Speaker 4: thing now to see, you know, what they're building, how

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Speaker 4: they're building it, as diverse as the staff is and

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Speaker 4: as many of them as their own. Yeah, I can't

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Speaker 4: wait till we can announce things work further. But it's

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Speaker 4: been an amazing past couple of years. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 4: it's that whole story you know, started in my living

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Speaker 4: room literally right and fast forward three four years later

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Speaker 4: and everything that you hope and work and dream towards

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Speaker 4: is now, you know, happening.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's the beauty of this business man.

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Speaker 3: Watching everything come to fluition that you put down on

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Speaker 3: paper and watching it grow is like, that's the best.

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Speaker 1: It's almost the same as having a child, real talk.

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Speaker 4: It's like it's a different form of child because yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know it all starts from an idea.

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Speaker 3: Yes, definitely, and watch it grow. So just man, let's

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Speaker 3: get into it, y'all. Don't know, my man just is

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Speaker 3: a tech genius. Just so y'all know as we recording him,

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Speaker 3: he's recording us just to make sure we ain't fucking up,

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Speaker 3: y'all know what I'm saying. We got everybody know he

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Speaker 3: got the l glasses. That's taping everything. So if you

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Speaker 3: think you're gonna walk by him and think you slipped

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Speaker 3: on it his property and see him he got it

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Speaker 3: on tape. He got it on the tape. So out

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Speaker 3: of the video game stuff you told him. I had

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Speaker 3: a question, what's your top five video games all time?

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Speaker 1: You are mad your game.

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Speaker 4: That's a tough one. I would have to you know,

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Speaker 4: I'm old, right, so I'm gonna go back to the eighties.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's how come on, Frogger all that zell Do.

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Speaker 1: I played all that I want to know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, street Fighter for sure, of course, and Mortal Kombat.

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Speaker 1: They kind of almost go hand in there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Street Fighting, Mortal Kombat, Revenge of Shanobi, not just

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Speaker 4: for the game, but for the music. The music in

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Speaker 4: that game is something that inspired me to create.

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Speaker 1: That's three I would have. That's three.

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Speaker 4: I would have to say call of Duty.

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Speaker 1: That's right, pop Gun. I would have to say Call

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Speaker 4: Just as a series, there's some.

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Speaker 1: That are better than others. Definitely Blacks Black Eyes, It's

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Speaker 1: the best.

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, and I get one more?

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Speaker 1: Uh, whoa last one?

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Speaker 4: Hold on, it's gonna come to me. Yeah, I would

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Speaker 4: have to say, so come, so come, so come.

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Speaker 1: That's and that like the big old, biggest open world.

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Speaker 4: So come was Oh so com was like the first

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Speaker 4: a predecessor to Call of Duty, but it might, but

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Speaker 4: it's it was the first game we could get online

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Speaker 3: You was the first in baseline with all the games

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Speaker 3: Xbox PlayStation. You know, me and you never had an

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Speaker 1: You know I had an argument, but you know you

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Speaker 1: yelled at me one time. What was it one time?

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Speaker 4: What was it? You was playing.

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Speaker 3: Guru and basketball Xbox and I'm like, yo, just I

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Speaker 3: need to beat this nigga, Like, hold on one fucking minute,

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Speaker 1: They ain't mine of the game.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, god damn like this.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, wait a minute, is that the game?

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Speaker 3: They don't know how competitive this guy is when they

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Speaker 4: I think it was. That was just baseline in general. Yo,

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Speaker 4: The only two people that beat me at anything a baseline.

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Speaker 4: After I beat going the DJ battle which we're talking,

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Speaker 4: oh yeah, we got to get into that.

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Speaker 1: And then then he came back. I forget what we played.

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Speaker 4: Man, he got me good and you know I slept

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Speaker 4: on hole and what.

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Speaker 1: The boxing?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Nice?

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Speaker 4: The boxing, Yo, was nice.

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Speaker 1: In the box. Oh my Jesus Christ. He dragged you

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Speaker 1: to the lakes and totally.

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Speaker 4: You know I used to do I used to do

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Speaker 4: So he's like I could play. I'm like yeah, he

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Speaker 4: by the time I figured out that I was being pool.

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Speaker 1: Shark, it was too late. It's like that on the

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Speaker 1: pool table too. You know, is you missed once, you

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Speaker 1: don't get the get together between him and one. You're

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Speaker 1: not missed. You missed once, you do not shoot again.

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Speaker 1: Over rap rap the triangle and rack up that said game.

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Speaker 1: You know I still got the baseline, No way you

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Speaker 3: You had all the baseline, all the classic memorabilia for

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Speaker 3: the whole museum.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. So now when we did the thing at the

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Speaker 4: we was talking about something else a few days before that.

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Speaker 4: I forget what it was. It's something for the for

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Speaker 4: later and he was like, yoh, so all the stuff

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Speaker 4: from Baseline, you know, uh, how much of that do

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Speaker 4: you have or do you have any of it? I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I have everything. What do you mean? I'm like, I

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Speaker 4: literally have everything. Like he's like, you like the keyboards?

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Speaker 4: I said, I had the board, I had the monitors,

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Speaker 4: I had the tape machine. I had anything that was

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Speaker 4: hung up on the walls like Neills like I literally had.

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Speaker 4: When we shut down Baseline, you know, everything basically just

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Speaker 4: was it was stored for years and then right we

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Speaker 4: finally sid all right, let's figre out what we're gonna

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Speaker 4: do with all this. Right, So the first thing we did,

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 4: We had the sow the machine on all this.

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Speaker 1: Gotta come.

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Speaker 4: I got a couple of dumpsters, got rid of all

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Speaker 4: start figuring out what the important stuff. Yes, and we

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Speaker 1: We had a hurricane twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, ended up catching about two and a half three

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Speaker 1: Damn.

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Speaker 4: So we're just like when Dave called me and I

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Speaker 4: told her what happened, I said, listen, we've been trying

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Speaker 4: the extent of it. So the deal I made with him,

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Speaker 4: you know, he what was going on with the museum. Uh,

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Speaker 4: And it was wild that dude that originally built it.

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Speaker 1: Was the guy run in the museum. That's dope, man.

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Speaker 4: I said, listen, I don't want no money out of it.

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Speaker 4: I don't, you know.

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Speaker 1: We don't need to.

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Speaker 4: We don't need to worry about finances.

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Speaker 1: Just be the rebuild and take care of the stuff exactly.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 4: I can turn anything in work in order or as

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Speaker 4: much work in order as possible. So that's what we're

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Speaker 1: That was the biggest draw at the museum.

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Speaker 3: Noticed that right everybody as soon as they saw the

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Speaker 3: line baseline, everybody was up in there, like, I got

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Speaker 3: to check it out.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 3: That studio made classics. Man, Like, we got a lot

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Speaker 3: of history to talk about it. Baseline, you brought it up,

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Speaker 3: let's get into it.

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Speaker 4: But one thing I will say, you know, my wife

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Speaker 4: was like, you know, you're gonna catch feelings when you

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Speaker 4: walk in there.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, hell yeah yo. But you know what, it

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Speaker 1: wasn't just the room.

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Speaker 4: Reconstructed as well as it was in terms of the accuracy,

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Speaker 4: was also everybody there being there inside that same space

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Speaker 4: that we had.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: I didn't think that myself when I walked into the museum.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm thinking, Okay, they did a you know,

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Speaker 3: a little exhibit for Jane, let's go check it out.

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Speaker 3: But then when you actually walked through and seen the history,

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Speaker 3: and it's like, wait a minute, we were really there

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Speaker 3: were all of this, We contributed to this. It's like

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Speaker 3: we this is our exhibit too, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Of the bikes, yo.

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Speaker 3: You ain't playing fucking We got the museum of museums

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Speaker 3: I watch my man mat show me what you got beat?

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Speaker 1: Right, just cutting, cutting and everything live.

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Speaker 3: So just off one term, y'all. Producers stop playing, y'all. Y'all,

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Speaker 3: y'all using all this computerized They do it for you

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Speaker 4: Too, But you know what it is for me, And

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Speaker 3: I was a DJ from the time I was right, brother,

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Speaker 1: For both of us, because you know we both of

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Speaker 4: You didn't just rap, you didn't just make beat, you

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Speaker 4: And as nice of a DJ as I am, because

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Speaker 1: Yes, he smashes me paused, he gets busy, but yeah,

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Speaker 3: And then just like getting on the stalls, there wasn't

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Speaker 3: He's just fine, right, you know what's going on?

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Speaker 4: And sat down too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like oh they're getting do in there on they

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Speaker 1: Yeah that was ill man that like gurgle get busy

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Speaker 3: But he can fuck with you. I know, I told

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Speaker 1: Google and chess wa. We only need one show, say

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Speaker 3: We only need one show. I don't care about no

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Speaker 3: Well heard it out. That's it, yo. But all the

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Speaker 3: gonna ask you it's a two part question because I

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Speaker 3: gotta know, like besides hole, because we already know, of course,

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Speaker 3: what's your top? I ain't gonna even say five three

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Speaker 3: beat you ever? Mean whether for any artist freeway me dipset.

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Speaker 4: Uh three is paulst three three is hard. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 4: you know because so many classics came out of that space.

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Speaker 1: Who was the most fun to work with? Like artists wise,

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Speaker 3: Man, A lot of people don't know you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean. You put a lot of work in on

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: Now, you know what I'll say overall, if you gotta,

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Speaker 4: list right, oh man, because you know the record happens

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Speaker 4: so last minute is so unplaned, right, Like we was

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Speaker 4: Was hypnotic?

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Speaker 1: Probably?

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Speaker 4: I think we were mixing hypnotic around the corner at battery.

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Speaker 4: Album's done, you know, like I've mentally moved on did

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Speaker 4: The album is already at the plant, like it's already

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Speaker 4: homie my brother Jack comes through with the Little Boy,

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Speaker 4: Little Boy Blues record, Like you need to listen to

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Speaker 4: to it because we're lit mix. He's like, yeah, you

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Speaker 4: need to listen to this, so Jack and Jack don't

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Speaker 1: If he say it twice, you need you know, you

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Speaker 4: So Ken, I want to say, Ken Lewis was the

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Speaker 4: you're doing right now, turn this home. So he plays

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Speaker 4: it on the speeches and I'm like and his face

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't even know what's happening, right,

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Speaker 4: But I make the be right away run around the

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Speaker 4: corner and we all know that part, you know. Random

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Speaker 4: Jay at first was like do we need this? And

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Speaker 4: me and Leon are sitting there like and me lenning

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Speaker 4: Go was sitting there like what do you.

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Speaker 1: Mean doing you need this?

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Speaker 4: Right? So he goes and does it. And I told

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Speaker 4: that story a million times. But going back to what

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Speaker 4: I was saying about the game studio right where it's

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Speaker 4: just an idea and it might happen. It might not,

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Speaker 4: but to watch a country fruition and watch it happen

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Speaker 4: I don't even want to call it an afterthought because

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Speaker 1: Career defining the biggest records.

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Speaker 4: Is amazing.

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Speaker 1: I remember when I found out that was you on

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Speaker 3: I remember when you're talking, like, Yo, who was that

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Speaker 3: just like and that's.

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Speaker 4: Me fell all American.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, it's lying. He's like, no, that's me

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Speaker 1: talking that and.

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Speaker 4: A second one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're in.

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Speaker 4: I would have to say that. I would have to say,

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Speaker 4: you don't know, because a lot of the blueprint records

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Speaker 4: hadn't already been in the stash, Like everybody knows that

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Speaker 4: said a zillion times, Girls Girls, Girls was made with goals,

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Speaker 4: face some money, and me and Hip were holding it

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Speaker 4: a lot of those records were done. I think you

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Speaker 4: don't know went through so many almost, and I kept

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Speaker 4: getting I would. There was only two artists I ever

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Speaker 4: heard that record aside from Jay was Peen rest in Peace,

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Speaker 4: Prodigy and Busted right, but they both heard it in

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Speaker 4: the context whorld like I'm skipping. Remember we used to

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Speaker 4: It wasn't that they weren't capable. I just knew that

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Speaker 4: I just walked in like, yo, anybody got some beats?

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Speaker 4: I just got four from you, right, So when he

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Speaker 4: I just felt so definitely that one. I really mean

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Speaker 3: Just about to say, bro, listen that record. I hated

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Speaker 3: all of y'all. I hate it all like you was

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Speaker 3: I remember that that day.

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Speaker 4: Funny enough, that day that was the day came was like, yo,

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Speaker 4: I never got it, but yeah, that that was another

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Speaker 4: beat that was laid around for a while.

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Speaker 1: Things.

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Speaker 4: I loved it musically, I never liked the way that

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Speaker 4: it sounded. Oh but when they came in then they

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Speaker 4: It's just like, what's the hardest, hardest thing that I

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Speaker 1: That really meaning you so? And originally they stomped on that,

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't on it.

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Speaker 4: Originally it was just Jim and yeah and then and

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Speaker 4: then the thing would nas happened and then they they

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Speaker 4: came right back like the next day. It's like, no,

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Speaker 4: we focus.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they stomped on that as a classic. That's

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Speaker 1: what I was gonna say. That's one of my favorites.

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Speaker 3: And you just even explaining what you said, just even

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Speaker 3: with that tape, like even knowing this beat needed to

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Speaker 3: be for a bigger, bigger purpose and all of.

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Speaker 4: That, right, it wasn't because it wasn't a bigger artist.

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Speaker 1: It was just bigger purpose.

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Speaker 3: I tell people all the time, that's the difference between

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Speaker 3: beat makers and producers. Because a beat maker just giving

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Speaker 3: you a tape that didn't let you shop through all

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Speaker 3: the beats. He's supposed to do, right, he's seeing you

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Speaker 3: twenty seven beats. It's like your family only to wrap

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Speaker 3: the one or two. You're supposed to pick the best

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Speaker 3: two and no, it's.

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Speaker 4: Also supposed to help with you through the process. That's

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Speaker 4: a lot of time, a lot of times. You know,

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Speaker 4: still gave directions. Me and Good produced a lot of

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Speaker 4: those records, those records that were done that baseline, because

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Speaker 4: Induce would just dropped the beat off the lead. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Me and Good beat the ones like all right, let's

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Speaker 4: we got these thirty beats from from whatever producer. Let's

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Speaker 4: take these three focus on. These three are getting the artists.

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Speaker 4: This is what we're talking about. This is how we're

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Speaker 4: talking about it, coaching them through the vocal tapes, pulling,

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Speaker 4: it was really a lot of a lot of times,

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Speaker 4: either either the artists were producing themselves or Me and

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Speaker 4: Good were producing those records.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I played a major part. You remember keeping real Wednesday.

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Speaker 4: Keeping real.

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Speaker 1: I think I still might have one of the t shirts.

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Speaker 3: It's still producers to this day that don't like guys,

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00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 3: so this day that like, Yo, you ain't getting no beat,

443
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 3: none of y'all beans.

444
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 1: Freeway, Jane.

445
00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:00,359
Speaker 3: I don't care what y'all say, how much money, no

446
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 3: beats for y'all.

447
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 4: So for those who are aware, keep it real Wednesday.

448
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 1: This is how we was fault and this is how

449
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 1: keep it.

450
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 4: Keep it real Wednesday originated. I won't say the producer,

451
00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 4: but somebody had left the tape. M hmm, we'll hope.

452
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 4: And at the time he loved it. Right. I came

453
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 4: in the next day. I wasn't dead that day. This

454
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 4: was a This was like a whatever day of the

455
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:29,719
Speaker 4: week it was. I come to next.

456
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 1: I took the day off.

457
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 4: Coming the next day. He's like, Yo, you might be

458
00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 4: finished out of here.

459
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 3: You know how old it's trying to tell you somebody

460
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 3: else taking your spot, right, So, yeah, you.

461
00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,160
Speaker 4: Might be finished out of here. I'm like, wow, He's

462
00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 4: like such and such just came through with like twenty

463
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 4: and ain't crazy. The tape was still in the DA

464
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 4: player in my studio, right yeah, So I played the

465
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 4: tape and I'm like, okay, I'm like, this is what

466
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 4: it is doing crazy, But I have voiced my opinion.

467
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 4: I just kept it to myself, but I'm listening to

468
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 4: the tape like that spot, it is fine, exactly right.

469
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,639
Speaker 4: So later on that day, either later when that do

470
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 4: the next day, everybody comes in and you play the team,

471
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 4: and all the faces in the room was like what

472
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 4: it was?

473
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 1: Everything sounds good, loud, that's right, right, and the.

474
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 4: Beats being all the beats was being played loud and able,

475
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 4: that's right. So that's where, you know, everybody realized that.

476
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 4: So the general consensus was all right, from now on,

477
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 4: when the producer comes through, he got to play his

478
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 4: beats on the bullbox. If they sound good on the.

479
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 3: Bull box, and they sound good everywhere, everything loud sounds good,

480
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,199
Speaker 3: and they could guys you up, you had a.

481
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,119
Speaker 1: Base should be like, oh yeah, it's nit. You like,

482
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 1: it's not that same, it's not the same energy.

483
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 4: So from there it was all right, you got to

484
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 4: play your beats on the bullbox. And it just so

485
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,080
Speaker 4: happened that the first time that came about was on

486
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 4: a Wednesday, and everybody just happened to be in the

487
00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 4: lane used to.

488
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 3: Tell every artist, you call your favorite producers. You call

489
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 3: your producers. Y'all call the producers you're working. When you

490
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 3: call the producers, you're working with fifty different producers in

491
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: the in the studio, in the lounge, and everybody had

492
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 3: a shot, yep.

493
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:14,400
Speaker 4: And so that the outcome was if you played something.

494
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,919
Speaker 1: Great something, he got a T shirt, you got, you

495
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 1: got the T shirt.

496
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 4: I survived, keep and you might get like the walk,

497
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 4: the Walk of Fame, they show you out.

498
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 1: Yeah love yo, he got heat.

499
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 3: But if those who it wasn't no good.

500
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 4: And see the problem was that I used to try

501
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,159
Speaker 4: to stay out the room then only because obviously, you know,

502
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 4: people look at us as the crew, like, so if

503
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 4: I'm in the room, they're looking at me like as

504
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 4: even if I'm not saying nothing, I'm part of the crew. Yeah,

505
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 4: so I'm still getting the side and I'm getting the

506
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 4: extra side out because I'm the producer. I'm the crew producer, right.

507
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 4: So I used to try to stay out the room,

508
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,000
Speaker 4: and it was always dam They used to try to

509
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,120
Speaker 4: get me to come in the room with what you think,

510
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I'm not a music guy. You're the

511
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 4: music guy.

512
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 3: What you're thinking, I'm like, I'm not doing it, yo,

513
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,479
Speaker 3: dari was yo da See That's why I'm that the

514
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 3: world get.

515
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,400
Speaker 1: To see, you know, this side of the day. They don't

516
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: know the side that.

517
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 3: We know that Dan was a genuine good guy for

518
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 3: the team because for every single person that put that

519
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 3: rocket Fellow chain on their neck, if you walk through

520
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,440
Speaker 3: them baseline doors, dang was out there swinging for you.

521
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 4: No I will I will say, word up. When my

522
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,880
Speaker 4: pops died, I didn't come in you know, I didn't

523
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 4: come in the baseline telling any money. But you know,

524
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 4: folks starting to find out just through word of mouth

525
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 4: for whatever day, was the first one to come into

526
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 4: the room and be like good, you know, and being

527
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,880
Speaker 4: ready or or willing to talk about it, or wasn't

528
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,479
Speaker 4: in the space to really talk about it too much

529
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 4: to talk because it just happened like the day before.

530
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 4: But he was the first person in the room like, yo,

531
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:57,159
Speaker 4: anything you need.

532
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,199
Speaker 1: Was a genuine good He just was. He was just

533
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: shopped me. He was the perfect example of what New

534
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,879
Speaker 1: York was like. If you like think we grew up

535
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: in the worst era.

536
00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 3: I always tell my son and I tried to tell

537
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 3: a lot of kids that I come across, like, y'all

538
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 3: got it good, y'all friends, y'all love each other, y'all, y'all, y'all,

539
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 3: y'all don't diss each other.

540
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,360
Speaker 4: Might support each other.

541
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 3: Like growing up with my friends, if you came out

542
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 3: on Eastern you didn't have on new clothes eyes, mom's.

543
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: A crack cash Like yo, what no?

544
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 3: How about I just didn't have money to go shopping

545
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 3: Like that's more important than this.

546
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,439
Speaker 4: But that's that's the difference in I think in the

547
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 4: errors there's a lot more concentration and a lot more

548
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 4: focused on support. Yes, mental health, like there was no

549
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 4: talk about.

550
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 3: It, No dang dan was that he was that guy

551
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 3: that was on your neck if he wasn't fresh, Yo,

552
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 3: this one mass nigga, he ain't pop tax nig These

553
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 3: dirty ass sneakers telling a lot of dudes today they

554
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 3: would not survive that Rockefeller Wave, that camp that we

555
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 3: had in basedline. It's a lot of people are here

556
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,640
Speaker 3: today that if they walk through them doors, they will

557
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 3: leave out with a shell of themselves because it was

558
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,679
Speaker 3: getting tested bro from state property now.

559
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 1: But beans are then put blood on the wall like

560
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: they put live in the studio watch like you know

561
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's why I can't wait.

562
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 3: To get beans up here, so we could really get

563
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 3: into those type of stories.

564
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 4: If you get into those stories, I will come back.

565
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 4: I will come back.

566
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 3: Niggas put Blood on the Wall and base Lines horror

567
00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 3: movies we filmed in based Lines.

568
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: Base Line was a different world.

569
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 4: It wasn't It really was. But you know, it's so

570
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,719
Speaker 4: much history that was made there.

571
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: Yes, man.

572
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 4: And the thing about it really is, you don't know

573
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 4: that you're making it while you're making it. You don't

574
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 4: know you're in the process exactly what you do. But

575
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 4: if you look at just about every great movement, not

576
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 4: just in hip hop, but just in general, Like Motown had,

577
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 4: hitsvill A, they had their spot, Ye bad Boy had

578
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 4: Daddy's House, you know what I mean.

579
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: In a host of producers they had, they had they

580
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 3: joint m they studio, the crack house.

581
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: Yes, you know the spot right.

582
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 4: You know, if you look at Chunk King, you go

583
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 4: back to the early eighties, most of the stuff that

584
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 4: was coming through death Chail, you know, we're through rush.

585
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 4: It's all happening at Chunk King.

586
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: Right, Joe, Chunk King damn.

587
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 3: I remember that almost bought chunk Kin no way when

588
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 3: he was Baseline was still around, but it was too busy.

589
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 4: And the thing about chunk King John the guy that

590
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 4: owned it, he had the two floors with all the studios.

591
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 4: Then he also had apartments on the same floor. So

592
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,880
Speaker 4: the idea was and h would have just moved into

593
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 4: the apartments the studio, you know, didn't happen for a

594
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 4: number of reasons. But Chunking almost became like Baseline too

595
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 4: to it.

596
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 3: That's crazy, man, chunk King Uh fucking D and D

597
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 3: was a classic.

598
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the same thing.

599
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: Even though D and D.

600
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 4: Was a lot of separate entities, they were all connected

601
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 4: with or another, right, like between premium and dignity and

602
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 4: dignitary crisis on them. So and the beat minus obviously.

603
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 4: So you know, the studio, it's more than just a studio,

604
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 4: it's a it's a creative hub at that point. But

605
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 4: you have all these different energies and all these different

606
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 4: entities rather you know, frequent in the place every day

607
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 4: that a man yeah lived there, Yeah, it became it

608
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 4: becomes a creative hub.

609
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: That's right, I lived there.

610
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: See state property, dip said everybody worked that night. So

611
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: I would come to the studio. These guys will still

612
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 3: be on the couch. Dad, I'll be waking everybody up.

613
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 3: Google everybody, Google. Gotta go get his coffee.

614
00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 4: He went out to the deli on the corner.

615
00:28:59,560 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 1: Get his call.

616
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, go get his coffee, and then we get in

617
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 3: the work. That's one thing I was the daytime morning.

618
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: I get to the studio nine o'clock in the morning.

619
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: By five o'clock, I was done.

620
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 4: Even before that. Like the way I the way for

621
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 4: me was like for us, or rather, when I say

622
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 4: for us, I mean like on the studio side. So Me, Shane, Dave,

623
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 4: we we had to understand and like, all right, bleaks

624
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 4: will show up anywhere between nine and ten. Hole's gonna

625
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 4: show up around two. State property might trickle in throughout

626
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 4: the day because they all move independently. Yeah, Diptt's gonna

627
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 4: show up around eight. Max is gonna call us around

628
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 4: eleven o'clock and say he's on, or ten o'clock and

629
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 4: say he's on his way, show up at three or four.

630
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 4: Ye pass out on the couch, want to wrap at five.

631
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 4: But the wild thing was is he would be playing

632
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 4: to beat on ten and then to Falsburgers. Go to sleep,

633
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 4: right and go to sleep, go to sleep, then wake

634
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 4: up with a run.

635
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: Yep, that's how we did hypnotic Yo. Bro.

636
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,400
Speaker 3: He turned the lights down in the studio. Remember he

637
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 3: turned the lights down in the studio, had inscense burning,

638
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 3: and went to sleep and then woke up and told me, bleek,

639
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 3: I got it.

640
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: Wrecking Hip nodded. I'm like, all right, let me hear it.

641
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm like, you do, got it. But he was a

642
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: genius at that. I don't know.

643
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: He would dream his verses because he would go to

644
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: sleep with the beat playing wake up, I got it right,

645
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 3: which is wild.

646
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: When you really think about it.

647
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 4: It's like half his brain was sleep. Sometimes we'd be

648
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 4: like yore, Mac, yes, but then wake up with the verse.

649
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 4: Not wake up and say give me half an hour.

650
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: No, wake up with the verse.

651
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 3: I'm ready, put me in the booth, Like what the

652
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 3: hell out of hell you wrote the verse in your sleep?

653
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: Like okay, beans, we got that talent. See you make me.

654
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 4: But then it would and then it would just be

655
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 4: a cycle that would start a new right. So like

656
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 4: after Mac finished, maybe six seven in the morning.

657
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: Now here I come right, It's just right earlier in

658
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: the morning.

659
00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 4: For years, but it was. And then you know, luckily

660
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 4: Baseline was in the garment district. You could go right downstairs,

661
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 4: right around the corner and get a bunch of white tea's.

662
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 4: It came down to what you eventually put that holiday

663
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 4: in or whatever.

664
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: It was on the corner right.

665
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 3: We had a nice spot during the day, right but

666
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 3: that night Baseline block became I remember seeing you out there,

667
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 3: all his jewelry, big brakeslet cab yo.

668
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 1: Just it's three o'clock in the morning. This is when

669
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: you earn the saw the crews come out that night.

670
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: Can in the car. We didn't going on I was dropping.

671
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: It wasn't no, but we didn't.

672
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 4: Back then, we didn't have ubers or car services like

673
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 4: cabs used.

674
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: To be like where you going, We're not going that way.

675
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 4: Right exactly, So it was you kind of didn't have

676
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: a choice back there. I tell you, I got kidnapped

677
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 4: by a cab trying to get back to the yo

678
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 4: seven in the morning. This is like two thousand and one.

679
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 4: Seven in the morning. I had a studio, like everybody

680
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 4: just happened to leave early on Saturday. Saturday was the

681
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 4: one that you might get a break, right, because people.

682
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: Would go out and yeah, everybody was moving right.

683
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:10,479
Speaker 4: So Saturday, Saturday night, go to the studio. I mean

684
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 4: Saturday night, take a break, go home. Actually, I'm sorry.

685
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 4: Early Sunday morning, I fell asleep on Saturday because everybody

686
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 4: had left. Yes, Sunday morning, I go go to the

687
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 4: crabs finally to live downtown. Go to the crab shower

688
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 4: change and go back down right. Used to live in

689
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 4: the city, there was always a cab stock jump in

690
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 4: the cab, real quick jump in the cab. And I

691
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 4: always to say the same thing every time I got

692
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 4: in the cab.

693
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 1: Twenty six and six to the corner twenty six and six.

694
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 4: Far left hand corner. That was that was my routine.

695
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 4: I gave you the same instruction six. So I get get.

696
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: In the cab.

697
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 4: Dude pulls over on twenty six and six on the

698
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 4: near right corner. Now that's that's nothing to argue, right,

699
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 4: But I had said to him, I was tiring. I said, oh,

700
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 4: I just said far enough corner. He's like, no, you

701
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 4: said far, He said, you said the right corner. I said,

702
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: I'm gonna argue with you. So I go to my

703
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 4: outside pocket all I had, so I wasn't I had to

704
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 4: get money and get cash l on that. All I

705
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 4: had was ten dollars over the cab ride is six

706
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 4: seventy every day. Take out the ten. As I'm taking

707
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 4: it out, my inside pocketed rips. Right. So now this

708
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 4: guy just got to finish argument with me and trying

709
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 4: to start the argument. So I apologize to see my apologies. Well,

710
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 4: you know, Bill Ritt still good, just kind of neat

711
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 4: take it back together. He like, so, yeah, he starts

712
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 4: to beefing about that. He tried he court. He was like,

713
00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 4: you have to give me another money, and I don't

714
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 4: have another money. This is all I have.

715
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: But there's a Delli right there.

716
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 4: There's a Deli right that we need to do. Yeah.

717
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, we could just get taped.

718
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 4: And you know, so my thing was I would have

719
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 4: been like, yo, you can keep the ten, you just

720
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:57,959
Speaker 4: gotta tape it up. I mean to change, but now

721
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 4: that's your being, now that we're having a problem, you know,

722
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,479
Speaker 4: that's out the window. So he come, he comes out

723
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 4: to del He says they don't have tape. I said,

724
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: I know they have tape. We eat there every day.

725
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 4: They tape our sandwiches shut right, like, we'll take the

726
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 4: package and shut on the sandwige. So he's like, I'm like,

727
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 4: you know what, let's keep this. Oh no, So he said,

728
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 4: you know able to see the police. I said, okay,

729
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 4: remember the precinct was right by the garden, like three

730
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 4: blocks up, four blocks. So we go to the drive.

731
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 4: You to the police shut over the cabin forn of

732
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 4: the precinct. Uh comes out five minutes later. So the

733
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 4: police said they want to see you. I said, the police,

734
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,880
Speaker 4: don't saf the police wanted to see.

735
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: Me, they'd be outsome exactly.

736
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 4: I'm not walking into a police precinct like, hey, somebody

737
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:51,920
Speaker 4: wanted to see me. So he's like, police said, the

738
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 4: would have see I said, bro, I'm knotting out of

739
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 4: this car, like we gotta go back to destination was

740
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 4: twenty six and six.

741
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: That's right now. We're on thirty fourth and eight. You

742
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: you wild exactly.

743
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 4: So then he's like, oh yeah, all right. It just

744
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 4: takes off speeding. Crosstown gets down there, which one of

745
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 4: those up I think first ab goes up. Yes, it's

746
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 4: all the way from eighth down the first and I'm realizing, yo,

747
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 4: like he's not going back to the studio breaks up. First,

748
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 4: ab I have my flip from the flip phone and

749
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 4: I had.

750
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: The no that's where we had the star tak say

751
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:28,719
Speaker 3: it was the star tap.

752
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 4: So I call uh my partner at the time, and

753
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 4: I'm like yo, and I got one bar, batter you up.

754
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,520
Speaker 4: I'm like, yo, I'm being kidnapped by a cab. She's sleep.

755
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 4: She's like what, I'm being kid And I don't want

756
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 4: to call nine one one because I only got one.

757
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 4: I got barely got any bars, like law nine one on.

758
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, So she.

759
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 4: Calls nine one one. I tell him what was happening.

760
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,479
Speaker 4: Like They're like, sir, Donald, one is not for jokes.

761
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 4: I said, this is not a joke. I am more.

762
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 4: I was supposed to be taking twenty six and.

763
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 1: Six first avenue.

764
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 4: Now I'm off.

765
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

766
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 4: Now this guy's speeding of first Avenue and I'm on

767
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 4: fifty ieth. Now I'm on fifty third. Now I'm on

768
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 4: fifty fifth. So she realizes what it is. So a

769
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 4: couple minutes later, further two minutes later, sirens is now

770
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 4: there's a police blockade like on like seventy seventy something, right,

771
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 4: two cars blocking the street, I'm thinking, all right, I'm good.

772
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 4: It turns out they was blocking for something else. Cab

773
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 4: driver pulls over and the one officer who's clearly in charge,

774
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 4: I'll see him on his radio. He comes over. It

775
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 4: tells me to get out the car.

776
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: You didn't get out, yeah, But.

777
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, but but the way he's doing it as

778
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 4: if the criminal right, So I'm now I hear the

779
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 4: cab driver giving a whole full story to the officer.

780
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 4: Two of the cop cars that was coming up behind

781
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 4: they jump out. They start trying to explain to the

782
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 4: main officer he's not going to hear it right, So

783
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 4: cab driver gives him a fake story. They let him go.

784
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 4: Then the officer comes over to the other two officers like, so,

785
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 4: what were are trying to say? They were like, you

786
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 4: just let a kidnapp it go, Like this guy was

787
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,600
Speaker 4: the passenger he called on what we've been chasing it,

788
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 4: and you just let the dude go because you ordnatally

789
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 4: just assume the black guy.

790
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: Was the problem.

791
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 4: So he gets away. Officers super apologetic, but he's doing

792
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: what it is so I can't see his bad. The

793
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 4: other two uh, other two officers was like, yo, we

794
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 4: would offer you a ride back, that's all I was

795
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 4: going to work. Specifics they offered. They were like, yo,

796
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 4: you offer you a ride back, you probably want to

797
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 4: show up to work in the back.

798
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: Walk. The officer I got it while.

799
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 4: Pulled out a Metro card in the twenty and was like, Yo,

800
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 4: this is that cops badge number. This is the taxis

801
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 4: the taxis.

802
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: Uh the medallion?

803
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, He's like, find were you I called?

804
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 4: He said, I follow complaint on both.

805
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: Yo, yo, dressed.

806
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 3: You have no idea how the cab world played into

807
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: the duce life. I remember when I first got put

808
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 3: on with the du say and to go do the

809
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,839
Speaker 3: party at Lime Marina up top, and they like, yeah,

810
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 3: go talk to the homie and I'm like, all right, cool,

811
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 3: let's go meet the homie.

812
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: Run Li Marina.

813
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 3: It's the dude who represents the cab calling shit, who

814
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: always hearn the news every time they getting a problem

815
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 3: with a cabby.

816
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 1: He like, yeah, the cabby is the man more pay

817
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: needs security.

818
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 4: So I'm like night cab union representatives.

819
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:41,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like wow, the night club. He got locked

820
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: up for scamming too with the club.

821
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 4: Remember they shut it down and nobody ever it was

822
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 4: real quiet.

823
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: You know, they ain't quiet for him. He got them cuffs.

824
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: That's what happened. It was like, Yo, what the hell

825
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 1: is the running the cab? Call is ship and the

826
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: night nightclub? He out here getting trip pay ward?

827
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 3: Like one question that I want to know, But somebody

828
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 3: because I asked him, like, yo, I got just blades

829
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: coming through anything people want to know, you know, people

830
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 3: always ask the same normal stuff. Is like one thing

831
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 3: that stood out. Somebody said, Yo, you got to ask

832
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: just what happened to the original Ja electronic album that

833
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 3: they said? It was all streaming services and somehow got

834
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 3: picked down.

835
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 4: It was on streaming for like two days. I don't

836
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 4: know how it ended up there.

837
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: Oh that's what help.

838
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 4: For like two days it was there and it wasn't

839
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 4: the finished version that I had, because what it was

840
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 4: was like j would cut demos because he worked the

841
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:43,959
Speaker 4: machines himself.

842
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 3: Right, Jay got one verse on a hundred different records everywhere,

843
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: So he would shoot me the demos.

844
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: I would take him and you.

845
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:58,720
Speaker 4: Know, flesh him out, do overdubs and arrangements, mixing, shoot

846
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 4: it back to chev who was his engineer out in Detroit.

847
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 4: It was like a collaborative process then, but you know

848
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 4: jameson nomad, right, so he'll be in Detroit for X

849
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 4: amount of time, bounce down the n O for X

850
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 4: amount of time, then just disappear and go off grit.

851
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 4: And then one time he did that and he popped

852
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 4: up in London and we all know, you know, you

853
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 4: know what he was doing out in London. So I

854
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 4: go out there, Me and go both go out there,

855
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 4: like all right, this is it. Like we got a

856
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 4: core amount of things done, get all the files together,

857
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 4: and you know, we started like two The idea was

858
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 4: go out there and do like two or three new

859
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 4: ideas just to add on to the homework that was

860
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,719
Speaker 4: already there. I would would take back home and and X,

861
00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 4: Y and Z, And then you know, Jay moves on

862
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 4: his own time. So he got some work done. It

863
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 4: was time to follow up. Couldn't you know? He could

864
00:40:54,440 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 4: couldn't couldn't couldn't catch him again. So I think I

865
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 4: might be the only person that had like the fully

866
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,400
Speaker 4: sequenced with the orchestra, the strings and the hordes and

867
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 4: everything like all strung together. I think I might be

868
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 4: the only person who has all that. Then you know

869
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 4: he shoulders you now Jess him and him and who

870
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 4: had the conversation which which led to him doing the

871
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 4: joint album. And then shortly after the joint album, all

872
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 4: of a sudden, like the demos of or the original

873
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 4: versions of a bunch of the songs from the original

874
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 4: album popped up on streaming, and I was like, it

875
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 4: had it had the homie uh, Frank shout out to Frank,

876
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 4: it had Frank's artwork. I'm like, yo, it's it might

877
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 4: have been Jay himself, you know. And then somebody got

878
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 4: wind and took it because it was it was literally

879
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 4: there for like two days, so I don't I don't

880
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 4: know how that came about. I was a bit frustrated

881
00:41:55,400 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 4: because once something is on the internet, yeah, you can

882
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 4: pull it all. You can pull it from Verda Rich

883
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 4: find it exactly so, and it's gonna get, you know,

884
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:08,720
Speaker 4: regurgitated and spread.

885
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: So pardon.

886
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 4: Even though I don't like not, I don't like having

887
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 4: my work put out there without my consent, without my knowledge,

888
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 4: or without my stamp of saying it's done. Part of

889
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 4: me wishes that it was the version that I had

890
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 4: with the orchestra, just so people could really hear.

891
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 3: The full finish. Yeah, the finished product. Man, like they

892
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,919
Speaker 3: got the half done product. That's whack man, right.

893
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 4: You know, but it's it's it's that's today and age

894
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:34,959
Speaker 4: were living.

895
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yo.

896
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 3: Jared Leck is one of my favorite artists. Bro, like

897
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 3: you say, I am from you and Ghoul. Getting that

898
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 3: boy in the studio is like pulling teeth.

899
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 4: But the thing is is once he gets in, he

900
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 4: go in.

901
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I remember.

902
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 4: He and we're about to do this thing with me,

903
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 4: him and Most point And this is like the exhibit

904
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 4: se Era like Cane his last maybe like twenty ten

905
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 4: or eleven. He comes to with Most like it was

906
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 4: for a group. Okay, here's the beats recorded like four

907
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 4: joints in one night. And then I'm like, yo, all right,

908
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 4: so what's the follow up? Like let's get you know,

909
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 4: like and but they're both kind of they're both kind

910
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 4: of the same in that way where they move on

911
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 4: their old time, but you know they move independently with

912
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 4: a free spirit.

913
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 3: I don't believe they have Most caught up in the

914
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 3: drake drivers.

915
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: They put Most. It's like he never talked how you

916
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 1: pop up in this?

917
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 4: Yeah that was interesting because he's not normally he's not

918
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 4: one of thessarily by his.

919
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,880
Speaker 1: Tongue and he don't be talking, but he's not one to.

920
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 4: Buy his tongue, but he's not one that's generally in

921
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 4: the mix, right, So it was just that was I

922
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 4: feel like that was a unicorn inciting, you know, like

923
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 4: just him speaking his mind that freely about another artist's crazy.

924
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 3: You can't even talk freely today because any any any opinion,

925
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: if it's not good, it's hate and that's whack man.

926
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 4: The The other thing about it is, though, is that

927
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 4: we live in UH a culture now where context as

928
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 4: it relates to journalism is uh, it's kind of dead.

929
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:24,080
Speaker 4: Like what amounts to journalism now is clipt sound bites

930
00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 4: and clips right.

931
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: Clip bait, right clickbait. Mate, you're in the trap.

932
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 3: And then let them let the YouTube was and everybody

933
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:33,560
Speaker 3: go crazy.

934
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 4: And but what what really bothers me about it is

935
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 4: we know that as a culture. What bothers me is

936
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 4: when UH outlets, actual UH outlets that perpetually actual journalism

937
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 4: or purport to perpetually journalism, feed into that. So they'll

938
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 4: do what sit down it if you with somebody four hour,

939
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:56,240
Speaker 4: but now they're giving it to you in five minute

940
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 4: clips with like a hot take headline and like, and

941
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 4: I don't even like, I hate even a perfect example

942
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 4: that I hate to bring up, but it is the

943
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 4: perfect example. Is there's just one clip and it makes

944
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 4: the rounds every couple of months about how with method

945
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 4: mans saying Kanye West, I've seen him at a party given,

946
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 4: you know, and performing sexual acts.

947
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it wasn't even the true clip.

948
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 4: No, what it was the funny but the ironic thing

949
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 4: was is what meth was speaking or was the fact

950
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 4: that he could say something like that and it would

951
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 4: be taken out of context, chopped up and then go viral, right,

952
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 4: And that's exactly what happens. Right, So nowadays every like

953
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 4: I see it like most every month, like every most

954
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 4: every like three months, it does the rounds every time,

955
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 4: you know, and whether it's and it's making the rounds

956
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 4: now because Diddy's in the news. It was making around

957
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,400
Speaker 4: a few months back because something that was happening with

958
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 4: Yay the news. But it's like every few months that

959
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 4: gets situated, which is why like I'm hesitant and I

960
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 4: haven't for a long time to even really do much

961
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 4: media because without because I know that it's very easy

962
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 4: for the context to get.

963
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 3: And they can misconscrew anything. Today people take they want

964
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 3: to make put mean to what you mean? They like, well, no,

965
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 3: you didn't mean that, this is what you mean. It's

966
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 3: like your family. How are you telling me what I meant?

967
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 4: Right?

968
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,840
Speaker 1: Like? It makes no sense and.

969
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 4: I feel like, uh, it's I don't want to say

970
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 4: some generational thing. But one thing that I've seen happen

971
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 4: a lot recently is like an artist will talk about

972
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,319
Speaker 4: what they meant by a lyric, who meant the meaning

973
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 4: behind the song was, and it will be fans and

974
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 4: so or if people on social media like, nah, you

975
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 4: met this the artist is like I wrote this song

976
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,399
Speaker 4: as I was going through x Y and Z it's

977
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 4: about this and you said, x Y.

978
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: You're talking about homie over here there. The game now

979
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 1: is it is very different.

980
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 4: Everybody has a voice now not everybody. I think everybody

981
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,239
Speaker 4: has a voice, right yes, And I hate to say this,

982
00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 4: but not everybody needs to.

983
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: Have Some people need to be stripped. That are the voices,

984
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 3: Like you know, some people hurt them.

985
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 4: It's respectfully of what you're doing and I'm I'm doing

986
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 4: the same, but like some some people need to fill

987
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 4: out an application to buy a podcast kit. Yes, like

988
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 4: you should get proved to have to buy a podcast.

989
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: Kit because they think it's just sit there, ask the

990
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 3: hot topic questions, make the five minute clip, and then

991
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 3: go to the party and take pictures. We hear now

992
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 3: we lit we the popping podcast. We know all the

993
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 3: we got on the team. That's what they call it.

994
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: They drink the tea. I drink water, man, I don't

995
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: drink Speaking.

996
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 4: Of which, that's what I was about to say, Like

997
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 4: the one dude, this is one guy that went on

998
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 4: on the podcast about why we should not drink water.

999
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 4: Only animals drink water. Humans should not drink water.

1000
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: We would have said does.

1001
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 4: And then he also was talking about how the at

1002
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 4: weight is actually a.

1003
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:52,040
Speaker 1: Frequency that's I seen something about it depolates.

1004
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 4: Humans and they become obsessed with it in the tree

1005
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 4: or something that is old. Say he should have had. Yeah.

1006
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of people don't need to please.

1007
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 4: Wants to buy the road podcast or kid you know,

1008
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 4: or the the the who makes the steam deck not

1009
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 4: the stream deck Logitech, all these Please just make people

1010
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 4: find an application.

1011
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: Or charging a monthly subscription. Yes they will do it, Yes,

1012
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: I bet you no.

1013
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 4: And that's The thing is, it's like you know, the

1014
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 4: the don't get me wrong, Ideally, yes, everyone should be

1015
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 4: fairly represented to be able to have Yes. The thing is, ultimately.

1016
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 3: What's your message. The message can't just be hate and negativity.

1017
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 3: That's the thing. People put in negativity in the world.

1018
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 3: Then when something negative happens, they shocked. It's like, yo, bro,

1019
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 3: all you do is breathe negative negativity.

1020
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,239
Speaker 4: Yes, won't be surprised when that's what permit.

1021
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 3: So exactly, That's why I said this is we don't

1022
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 3: this is this conversations.

1023
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 1: I want to bring people into our world. I didn't know, like.

1024
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 3: Like I was going to ask you to like just

1025
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 3: watching Yay, come up, man, see where you at like that.

1026
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: That's my bro, you know what I'm saying. He from

1027
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: the bottom with us.

1028
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 3: So sometimes when I see how the media do him,

1029
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,919
Speaker 3: I feel a little certain way about it, like damn,

1030
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 3: why they're doing bro like that? But I know, you

1031
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,320
Speaker 3: just even seeing him go this far as like damn

1032
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 3: and we was in the stud together.

1033
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 4: Like it's you know, it's a hell of a journey

1034
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 4: to watch yes, going from you know, him barely being

1035
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 4: able to get out of Chicago, like calling me like, yo,

1036
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 4: can I crash the crib? Want to see amount of.

1037
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: Time while I'm working.

1038
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 4: Trying trying to make this happen, because his thing was

1039
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 4: like I got to be nearby, right, the whole thing

1040
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 4: would coming to Chicago, go back and forth just wasn't

1041
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 4: working and it wasn't you know, but to watch and

1042
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 4: go from that to where it is now, it's it's

1043
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 4: just controversy and whatnot. Aside, it's very inspirational to see

1044
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 4: somebody literally will something in existence.

1045
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 3: And bet at all and that against the system. Like

1046
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 3: he went totally against the grain and came out a

1047
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 3: win him man like not many people would not even

1048
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:10,880
Speaker 3: think of trying.

1049
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 2: No.

1050
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 4: I remember even after he had like proven himself to

1051
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 4: the label. I remember even death Shams still fronting on

1052
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 4: things and he's.

1053
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 1: Like, yo, what more do I need to do?

1054
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 4: Do I need to do to show you? Like this?

1055
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 4: This is this, this is where we're at. I remember

1056
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 4: Touch the Sky video. The label wasn't really trying to

1057
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 4: pay much. He has some bread, but it wasn't like

1058
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 4: it is now. I want to say he spent remember

1059
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 4: him telling you something like eight hundred thousand had his

1060
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 4: old pocket like like cleaped out like, yo, I believe

1061
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 4: in this project in this video that much. If the

1062
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 4: label's not gonna.

1063
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: Do it, I'm gonna do that's right, you.

1064
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 4: Know, and came out eight hundred reps like we get

1065
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 4: to rent the Grand Canyon, you know, get the rocket,

1066
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 4: get everything you know, get me along, get Pam and

1067
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:56,360
Speaker 4: get everybody.

1068
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: You know.

1069
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 4: It was like it takes a lot. It takes a

1070
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 4: lot to be able to bet on yourself to that degree, yes,

1071
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 4: you know, and go against the system that's ultimately they're

1072
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 4: supposed to be there to support you, you know, go

1073
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 4: against their wishes or their budget or whatever's come out

1074
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 4: of your pocket. And it's very inspirational on the same

1075
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 4: the least.

1076
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,040
Speaker 1: But well, let's get into the cars man a little bit.

1077
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 3: Let's switch gears for great because my man right here

1078
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 3: started out buying cars, decorating the.

1079
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 1: Car and didn't even drive the car.

1080
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 3: And now he got lambows that light up like common

1081
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 3: books that everybody tell me.

1082
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 1: You believe, you ain't seen jefs blaze car like you

1083
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: saw Jets Blade's car. Win drive now Blaine.

1084
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 4: So you know, here's the thing. I'm moved down to

1085
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 4: New York at a young age, like I moved to

1086
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:52,560
Speaker 4: New York. I must have been seventeen eighteen forty, literally

1087
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 4: forty dollars in my pocket came from Jersey. I was seventeen,

1088
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 4: so I'm coming at the age most people will start

1089
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 4: learning the drive or whatever and getting their license. I'm

1090
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 4: living in the city. Now, you don't need to call

1091
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 4: or to wing in a prayer a dollar in the dream,

1092
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 4: So I'm hitting the cell. And I lived. I was

1093
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 4: working at the cutting room or interning, and then eventually

1094
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 4: working at the cutting room and living in the village.

1095
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 4: You know, I was living in an n YU door

1096
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 4: or wasn't an NYU student, so my whole existence was

1097
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 4: within four blocks, so it was just studio dorm studio dorms.

1098
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 4: And then when I eventually got caught doing the door thing,

1099
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 4: they banned me from their YU, which is that's a

1100
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 4: whole other story.

1101
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: And why are you coming with that degree next week?

1102
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: Now you going down? And why blades?

1103
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 4: They asked me to speak at YU three times since

1104
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 4: they made me every time. Every time I speak it,

1105
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 4: I'm like, so technically I can get arrested for being here,

1106
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 4: but because yeah, I'm not supposed to be doing one

1107
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 4: hundred feet of of anything.

1108
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: Wow.

1109
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 4: So I ended up moving downtown Financial District. Before it

1110
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,480
Speaker 4: was a cool place to live, but now that's just

1111
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 4: a six dollar cabro. So I just it wasn't until

1112
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,120
Speaker 4: I moved, uh, moved out the city.

1113
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: Finally, then you started putting.

1114
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 4: Then it was like I gotta get I gotta move around.

1115
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 4: So I learned to drive in three cars. I got

1116
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,680
Speaker 4: a Tesler, like before people really know what Tesla's were.

1117
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 4: Of course, a little B M W I three, the

1118
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 4: little box joint like a little.

1119
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: Electric smog electric joint and lavigating. Yo, you hear.

1120
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:35,480
Speaker 4: That's how I learned to drug.

1121
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 3: And he had an Avalanche brand Avalanche.

1122
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: Member, my my mayor, Ralph rest in peace.

1123
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,040
Speaker 3: He decorated the coffee because he did my car, and

1124
00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 3: I was like, yo, but we did your car.

1125
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1126
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 3: He had some type of bone marrow cans. Okay he

1127
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 3: passed with that. Yeah, and yo, I swear around here,

1128
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:56,479
Speaker 3: but no, that was Ralph truck.

1129
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 4: That was Ralph truck.

1130
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: Doors going up and your truck after after that? Yeah,

1131
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 1: and you never drove it. I probably saw the truck

1132
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 1: the day he got it back. Now that was it.

1133
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:07,279
Speaker 1: Never saw the truck and.

1134
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 4: You know you know, but you know who used to

1135
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 4: who would not remembro had somebody under him pause, Romero

1136
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 4: had somebody under him that was doing some driving. I

1137
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:18,439
Speaker 4: forget who.

1138
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 3: Yeah he had a little I forgot his name, but

1139
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 3: I know you're talking about.

1140
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 1: He was like one of his little students coming back.

1141
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:29,239
Speaker 4: So he was driving me fucking good, like year or two,

1142
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 4: but he was. He was whipping my car like it

1143
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 4: was a sports car.

1144
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, you had slats, you had them skinnies on that.

1145
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, I had like twenty fours or twenty six times.

1146
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 4: So eventually I was like, yeah we kick.

1147
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: Yes it was you was hurting them. But knew I

1148
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: was so crazy.

1149
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 4: I remember, I remember the truck we did. It was

1150
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 4: you want to cover with us?

1151
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: No, we did the magazine that young gun me and

1152
00:54:58,880 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: the young Guns.

1153
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 4: I did a different one too. I did him with

1154
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 4: Dame I think and kill the rider assumed that my

1155
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 4: truck was Dave's and they ran with it.

1156
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 1: You lieing.

1157
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 3: I remember reading the article like you was hurting them, boy,

1158
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 3: like yo, this is my yepes was hurting them.

1159
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: He like, bleak, I need who did this truck? My truck?

1160
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, my dude's gonna lace you. You had to.

1161
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,800
Speaker 3: System light up in the whole back. We used to

1162
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 3: put that pressure on these streets.

1163
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, so like from there like that car

1164
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 4: sat forever. We still got it. We use it as

1165
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 4: like a work truck.

1166
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: Now, no way, man, that's crazy. FO you keep everything.

1167
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,959
Speaker 3: Man, Yo, when I want to go down memory lane,

1168
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 3: I'm coming to just Craig.

1169
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:44,399
Speaker 4: You know, I still got still throwback Jerseys. I found

1170
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 4: him in storage, Like, but I was clearing out storage

1171
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 4: for the baseline. Yeah, I finally found the box that

1172
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 4: had them all in there. I found the Saint Paul

1173
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 4: Jersey a top.

1174
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: I was like, Yo, that's crazy man, all of us.

1175
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: You know what it was?

1176
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 4: I had like seven stories you just around the city.

1177
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 4: And then finally but I moved out the city. I

1178
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 4: just put everything in one of the year that was

1179
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 4: basically the size of an apartment. I ain't going. I

1180
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 4: ain't go to it for like six years. I just

1181
00:56:11,719 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 4: kept hate it. I was like, you know what, let's consolidate.

1182
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 4: But it's been a while ride through history, Like I've

1183
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 4: been finding your masters.

1184
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 3: I know you got so much trying to release music

1185
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 3: from everybody, man, all of what we need.

1186
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: To do a secret a secret album. Home signed off

1187
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: on this man like, listen, they're gonna assume me, fuck it,

1188
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 1: take me to come because we were Jess.

1189
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 3: We put out this secret album, this secret album.

1190
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 4: All right, but tell them about your not so secret album.

1191
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 4: What's the thing you're working on now?

1192
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: Oh? Man, just I gotta, I gotta.

1193
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 3: I think I got a classic man like my first

1194
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,680
Speaker 3: one under my belt. I believe because I'm giving away.

1195
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 3: I felt like I wanted.

1196
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 1: To do this.

1197
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 3: My boy Cheech told me, your bleep, you need to

1198
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,080
Speaker 3: make an album again, and I'm like, if I make

1199
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 3: an album, I want.

1200
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 1: To come back against some type of message.

1201
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 3: So I don't want to just give the young guys

1202
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 3: like I'm in the club popping bibles, tolding straps and

1203
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 3: running around fucking bitches like them, because it's.

1204
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: Not the life.

1205
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 3: It's not the life you live, and it's not the

1206
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 3: life that's reality.

1207
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:14,840
Speaker 4: And on top of that, I think the way you

1208
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 4: would communicate that, just the language and the delivery has

1209
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,800
Speaker 4: changed so much. There's kids that can say those things

1210
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 4: in ways that people will relate to. In terms of language.

1211
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 1: Now, yes, we.

1212
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 4: Would speak, we don't even speak on those terms exactly

1213
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 4: it wouldn't go over well. I think, you know, taking

1214
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 4: the approach of like this is where I'm at now

1215
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 4: as a as a legacy artist, as a veteran artist,

1216
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 4: that's kind of the approach, the only approach. You really

1217
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 4: can't take it for yourself. It speaks about yourself.

1218
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:47,439
Speaker 3: Because that whole generation has aged with us, that's right,

1219
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 3: and we're giving them the mistakes I made.

1220
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: Like you know, everything wasn't perfect. No from the Rockefeller Veil.

1221
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 3: Everybody think we all had this marvelous, rich, superstar life.

1222
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 3: They don't think read dealt with falls and dings what

1223
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 3: we felt like. Damn why us, you know what I'm saying.

1224
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 3: So I think on this album, I showed a little

1225
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 3: bit more vulnerability on this project, even more than what

1226
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 3: I did with my main project.

1227
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 1: Right like, just to have you on their knife, wonder

1228
00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: hit maker.

1229
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 3: Buck Wild sent me a joints little that I'm back

1230
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 3: in the nineties.

1231
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: Who let smoke with me? Now?

1232
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 3: So I'm ready man, Like it's good man, I'm about

1233
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 3: to shoot your video. I hopefully this summer, you know

1234
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 3: it's in the streets with that for sure, But like

1235
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 3: before we go, I want to let y'all know you

1236
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 3: let them know where they could find you. You better

1237
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 3: check my man out on fresh pair. He shot his

1238
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 3: own pie with the fresh sneaks on y'all headtop your sir,

1239
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 3: either j man, he watched some sneakers. He only wore

1240
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 3: the carpet. That if they left the carpet he got

1241
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:54,280
Speaker 3: to take them off. That's ain't no shit's one hundred thousand.

1242
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 4: You know, we have to show fresh pair of Shout

1243
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 4: out to up Rocks and my co host Caddy. Custom

1244
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 4: short of it is how you watch a late night

1245
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 4: talk show and the host will have Q right and

1246
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,840
Speaker 4: that that's kind of those few cards the talking points

1247
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 4: dictate the flow the conversation. We do the same, but

1248
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 4: we build a custom sneaker around the artists journey and

1249
00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 4: their their career and their life, and all the details

1250
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 4: are all the shoe, and we basically just point out

1251
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 4: the details on the shoe. You know, sometimes they're blatant,

1252
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 4: sometimes they're very subtle, like it might just be a

1253
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 4: color rating arrangement. But we use that the shoe as

1254
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 4: the basis for a great conversation. And we've been super

1255
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 4: fortunate and blessed to have some great artists on there.

1256
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 4: Yourself included ice q t I Game, Redman's uh Jabra

1257
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 4: has done it LP from one of the Jewels. It's

1258
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 4: it's it's been great, you know. Yeah, So we're gearing

1259
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 4: up now to really get in the season two. Season

1260
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 4: one did very well. Season so now and yeah please

1261
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 4: tune it. New episode is dropping every show.

1262
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 3: That's right, you already know, man, this has been another

1263
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:04,440
Speaker 3: classic episode of rock Solid.

1264
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,200
Speaker 1: My brother is way more than rock slid. That's my

1265
01:00:07,240 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: brother Drud. You see him, you see me, You violate him,

1266
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: You violate me, and I'm the one. I'm gonna come

1267
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: looking for you. It's another one. Know what it is

1268
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: rock Solid.

1269
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:25,520
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1270
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 2: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows at And

1271
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 2: you can follow me on any social media platform under

1272
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:32,360
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1273
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,760
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