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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation, It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. West Steeler and Matt Williamson with you here

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Speaker 2: for the next two hours on your twenty four to

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Speaker 2: seven home of the Black and the Gold. On a

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Speaker 2: Thursday here, heading into a bye week, a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a I don't know, different show today. Maybe we

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Speaker 2: will have, you know, some normal Steelers related conversation as

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Speaker 2: we always do. We're gonna jump back into some of

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Speaker 2: our college quarterback conversation as well.

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Speaker 3: Matt.

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Speaker 2: It's been a couple I guess just last week, the

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Speaker 2: week we took off due to travel into Ireland and

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Speaker 2: in a different schedule and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 4: We will tall on top of that though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I got a handy dandy little spreadsheet for us

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Speaker 2: that I'll continue to kind of update and add to

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Speaker 2: throughout the season. And we're also going to catch up

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Speaker 2: in about ten minutes with our buddy Bob Labriola. So

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Speaker 2: let's jump right into it here before we get to Labs, Matt,

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Speaker 2: we spent a lot of time. There were a lot

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Speaker 2: of different things that you and I that you and

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Speaker 2: Dale that Motes and I that everybody who you know

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Speaker 2: did Steelers content, radio, writing, video, whatever. Throughout the off season,

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Speaker 2: spent time discussing, Yeah, a couple of key things. You

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Speaker 2: got to get those sack numbers back up. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: got to improve the UH yards per rush, yards per

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Speaker 2: rush has to improve. We talked about turnover differential and

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Speaker 2: sack differential, and explosive play differential, red zone.

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Speaker 4: Offense, red zone offense another one.

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Speaker 2: And there's been some of those departments I think certainly

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Speaker 2: where they have shown growth, shown improvement, taking steps forward. Yes,

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Speaker 2: there's been some of those where they've still to be desired.

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Speaker 2: So I wanted to as we are, you know, kind

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Speaker 2: of stinks like you can't call it the quarter poll

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Speaker 2: the quarterway into the season anymore, because its pretty close

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Speaker 2: pretty much since we're basically one month in the we

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Speaker 2: got a month in the books. It's the bye week.

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Speaker 2: It's time to maybe take a look at some of

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Speaker 2: those bigger picture things and.

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Speaker 4: We're into bye week season. Yes, like that means you're

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Speaker 4: pretty far into.

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Speaker 2: Thing exactly right, And let's start with the one that

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Speaker 2: you always say is and not just you, I mean

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Speaker 2: the facts back this up. It's not like it's a

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Speaker 2: like a personal belief, right right. Turnover differential. Turnover differential

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Speaker 2: the number one indicator of success in the National Football

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Speaker 2: League on a team basis. The Steelers so far plus

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Speaker 2: seven through four games.

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Speaker 4: That's great among us. You know why they're three and

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Speaker 4: one and okay, you're losing the yardage differential and things

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Speaker 4: like that. Yardage differential is onst important is turnover differential?

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Speaker 4: It just isn't you know? And that this has been

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Speaker 4: a Steeler theme for a long time now. I mean,

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Speaker 4: no matter who the quarterback is a lot of changes

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Speaker 4: on defense. They're super opportunistic on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 4: I was on a different podcast earlier, as I'm on

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Speaker 4: a lot. I don't know if you heard the Robert

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Speaker 4: Flores quote from this week. Someone asked him they were

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Speaker 4: talking about turnovers and things like that. He's like, so,

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Speaker 4: I got a young daughter. You'll get a kick out

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Speaker 4: of this. You got a young daughter, Like if she

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Speaker 4: hugs me for bed and isn't trying to get the

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Speaker 4: football out, she's out. You gotta keep punching at the

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Speaker 4: ball no matter what, you know, Like, yeah, yeah, she's

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Speaker 4: not working on ball security or she's crying to the bunk,

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Speaker 4: right if she's gonna hug me better at least punching

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Speaker 4: at that football.

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Speaker 2: That's a good one. That's a real good one by

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Speaker 2: Brian Floora. That's that's that's hilarious. I like that.

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Speaker 4: So they're plus seven plus.

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Speaker 2: Seven, great place to be, great start.

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Speaker 2: The only game that they haven't been positive in the

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Speaker 2: Zero. I mean I'm actually looking at it if oh

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Speaker 2: wait no, because the Caleb Johnson one didn't.

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Speaker 4: Actually can it actually doesn't count, but it obviously is

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Speaker 2: If that doesn't happen, maybe end of pointing that game.

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Speaker 2: But that technically for this exercise doesn't factor. While the

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Speaker 2: turnover differential is very encouraging plus seven through four games, uh,

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Speaker 2: keep that rolling. The explosive play differential, both in the

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Speaker 2: be desired. Matt, Yeah, minus eight explosive run ten or

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Speaker 2: more yards. That's how the that's how we track this.

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Speaker 2: Ten or more yards is an explosive run. Steelers are

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Speaker 4: But at least they were plus three this past week.

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Speaker 4: First time it took. That's the first explosive thing that

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Speaker 2: In the explosive run differential so far minus six against

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Speaker 2: their best performance. Let's continue to see more of that.

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Speaker 4: I meant everyone remembers the Jets game. They were just

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Speaker 4: getting gash or explosive run.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, fields and and brees Hall Right. Explosive pass differential

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Speaker 2: New England, minus five last week, and the explosive past

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Speaker 4: One note, and I just happened to hear it on

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Speaker 4: Seattle is number one in explosive pass rate. I mean,

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Speaker 4: that's your worst game there. I mean, you wouldn't think

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Speaker 4: Smith the Jigma Cup. They don't have like these Mossy

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Speaker 2: So overall though, this does not se negative eighteen through

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Speaker 4: The Thinking minus nine, And it's hard to win a

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Speaker 2: Yes, those are twenty yard passes, right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's substantial stuff right there.

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Speaker 2: On the surface is twenty you know, twenty yard games

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Speaker 2: there that many times is gonna that's not gonna paper

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Speaker 2: cut you to death. That's just going to take you out.

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Speaker 4: You were even in turnovers that game, and you're minus

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Speaker 4: nine in explosive explosive play differential. That's a rough way

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Speaker 2: That's a rough way to live. It certainly is that's

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Speaker 4: I hope we're where we're supposed to be, not that

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Speaker 4: this is the flash in the pan.

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Speaker 2: And you know you pointed to this in the offseason,

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Speaker 2: type of conversations that this is the one that you

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Speaker 2: really think that they could get turned around pretty easily. Yes,

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Speaker 4: The one thing though, and I have brought some before.

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Speaker 4: I thought Rogers would take fewer sacks, but he's just

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Speaker 4: not very mobile, you know, and get rid of the

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Speaker 4: ball quick and the ball's coming out, so that part's working.

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Speaker 4: But I thought sack avoidance was something I would be

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Speaker 4: more keen on than I am at the moment, you know.

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Speaker 4: But them getting after the quarterback is obviously taking it, taking.

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Speaker 2: Over, especially the last two weeks, because the first two

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Speaker 2: the Vikings, plus nine in their last two games. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: now you're five overall. Now we're talking now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, if you could keep a similar pace,

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Speaker 4: I don't think you're going to average plus four point

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Speaker 4: five every game, you know, these last two. But if

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know, that's an area where they need to

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Speaker 2: and should make hay Yes. The first couple of weeks, hey,

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Speaker 2: Cam Hayward was still knocking off the rust. You didn't

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Speaker 2: have Derek Harmon in those first couple of weeks. Now

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Speaker 2: you've gotten both of those things moving in the right direction.

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Speaker 2: Her Big and TJ Water playing at a high level.

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Speaker 2: Here comes Keanu Benton as well too, with his best

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Speaker 2: game as a pittsa Hi Smith returns. Patrick Queen is

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Speaker 2: trucked Carson Wentz at Croke Park.

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Speaker 4: So I just start fiddling with Matt's stats for the Browns,

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Speaker 4: and obviously I can't do a lot because they haven't

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Speaker 4: played yet. So I did all Steeler stuff. I think

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Speaker 4: eleven different Steelers have a sack this year. It's like

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Speaker 4: eleven or twelve. It's double digit defenders. That's a ton.

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Speaker 4: So they're getting them from all over.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and we haven't seen a Ramsey sack yet.

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Speaker 4: that's Clark or Pepper's or you know, right, that's that

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Speaker 2: That's encouraging. So this is something that we'll keep an

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Speaker 2: eye on throughout the season. But just to wrap it up,

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Speaker 2: turn over differential steelers plus seven, keep that up. Sack

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Speaker 4: Let those things.

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Speaker 2: Feeling real good about both of those things. Explosive explosive

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Speaker 2: runs minus eight, explosive pass differential minus ten. Add those up.

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Speaker 2: That's negative eighteen. That's got to at least get closer

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Speaker 2: going to be a strength for them, fine, but it

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Speaker 4: I think they've been They have been better in allowing them.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think the tackling's better. They were really

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Speaker 4: bad tackling team the first two weeks. And maybe that's

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Speaker 4: just how the season started. And I would like to

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Speaker 4: see play action throw a bomb a little bit more,

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Speaker 4: you know, take two shots at least a game. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, they even taken any.

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Speaker 2: Shots I'm with you on that, and I'm hopeful that

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Speaker 2: that's kind of the final piece of the offense that

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Speaker 2: we're going to see here. Obviously a lot of things

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Speaker 2: relate to that pass pro being probably at the forefront.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's something that we'll talk to our buddy about,

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Speaker 2: Bob Labriola about when we return on the other side.

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Speaker 2: Plenty to get to on a busy week with our

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Speaker 2: Of course you all know the great Bob Labriola Labs.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for taking the time here for us on

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Speaker 2: a Thursday. I didn't want to ask you before we

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Speaker 2: got into some particulars. Maybe just a bigger picture question

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Speaker 2: coming off the back of this weekend the historic game

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Speaker 2: at Croke Park in Dublin, Ireland labs. I don't think

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Speaker 2: there's too many people that Matt and I could talk

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Speaker 2: be better positioned to talk about what having that regular

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Speaker 2: season game in Dublin meant to the Pittsburgh Steelers organization

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Speaker 2: and obviously particularly the Rooney family.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, Mike Tomlin certainly talked about

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Speaker 3: it a little bit. You know. The whole thing, you know,

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Speaker 3: was it was Dan Rooney's vision to bring American football

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Speaker 3: and you know it was one it was because it

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Speaker 3: so it really was, I think at that time a

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Speaker 3: And for it to be such a rousing success, for

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Speaker 3: And then the Steelers won the game. So yeah, I

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Speaker 4: Well said Labs. And it was an awesome environment. And

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Speaker 4: I go, to be honest, so sweat in the last

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean that seems to be the be

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Speaker 3: that this team's m o. You know, close games, one

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Speaker 3: so you know, it's probably an attribute. It certainly doesn't

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Speaker 3: But yeah, as I said, you know it, it was

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Speaker 4: That was actually my next question for you is do

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, I think that's the best team they played, too, true,

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Speaker 3: I just don't. I don't see any negatives that came

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. That's certainly something that we're going to

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Speaker 2: on early next week. It is Bob Labriola with us

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Speaker 2: here on the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Audio Network. Labs were through the month of September,

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Speaker 2: and you know, Matt and I were kind of laughing

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Speaker 2: the quarterpole thing anymore now, because they're seventeen regular season games,

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Speaker 2: but fairly close. What are your impressions of Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 2: so far? I thought another in incredibly efficient performance, effective

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I could talk about a lot of

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Speaker 3: what I thought he really gave the Steelers, specifically against

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Speaker 3: They do a lot of disguising. They're aggressive and you know,

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Speaker 3: you know that that's a you kind of got to

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Speaker 3: thread that needle there in the timeframe thing. Well, what

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Speaker 3: I think Aaron Rodgers was doing was he was with

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Speaker 3: certainly no one else the Steelers have had since pre

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Speaker 3: And I think that was a big part of you know,

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Speaker 3: And he's giving this team something that it hasn't had,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And above the neck, I

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Speaker 4: But I want to talk about a little bit of

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Speaker 2: The corn beef package, and I called it, you know.

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Speaker 3: If that's what it's what's necessary to run the football. Yes,

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Speaker 3: how often you use that. Maybe some wrinkles come off

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Speaker 3: And I think that everyone would agree that the Steelers

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Speaker 3: you know, again I don't know enough about it, you know,

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Speaker 3: personally believe that Darnell Washington's role with the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 3: So if the opponent, for example, seems to have caught

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Speaker 3: it's got to be a run. Well maybe you know

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Speaker 2: No, there's certainly not, Labs, I wanted to ask you

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Speaker 2: like he said, like he's like a fourth line goon

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Speaker 2: more impact than that. And I thought that that was,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. And the thing with the Shawn Elliott too is

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Speaker 3: Ryan Clark may have been that kind of communicator, hub

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Speaker 3: a complimentary guy. You know, he was and this is

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Speaker 3: he was Troy Poulmulo's sidekick, you know, if they were

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Speaker 3: compare him to someone, but let me just say this,

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Speaker 3: he's critical I will say that, and uh, he is

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Speaker 3: Just off the top of my head, he's top five, easy, easy,

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Speaker 4: We had a very similar conversation in a day or

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Speaker 4: I would have had him as high as I do now,

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Speaker 4: that's for sure, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, mean, because even last year I didn't know or

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Speaker 3: I don't want to say irreplaceable because you know, then

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Speaker 3: you're almost you know, teasing the odds here the injury gods,

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Speaker 3: and I don't want to do that. But as I said,

436
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Speaker 3: I'll just stick with what I had said earlier. If

437
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Speaker 3: you're going to list the guy so you cannot lose

438
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Speaker 3: to injury, on this defense to Shaun Elliott is easily

439
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Speaker 3: in the top five.

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Speaker 4: So high Smith has been injured, and I think he's

441
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Speaker 4: a very very good player. We know exactly what TJ.

442
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Speaker 4: Watt is, but her Big blows me away, labs. I mean,

443
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Speaker 4: every time he's gotten on the field, it seems like

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Speaker 4: he makes an impact. You know, he's there, and when

445
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Speaker 4: he plays extended stretches, he's just as potent. I don't

446
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Speaker 4: know how you keep him off the field, and I

447
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Speaker 4: don't know how to handle that, but I think he

448
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Speaker 4: is a real real find.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what he has evolved into this

450
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Speaker 3: season that I didn't think he was last season was

451
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Speaker 3: not a liability against the run. I agreed, because you know,

452
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Speaker 3: in Herbig's first couple of seasons, a lot of people

453
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Speaker 3: while't they moved him to inside linebacker. You know, Steelers

454
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Speaker 3: fans love that, moving Shasier to safety, all of that

455
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Speaker 3: kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: Washington left tackle, right, Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's another one. But I just didn't think, you know,

458
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Speaker 3: Nick Herbig was built physically for the interior on an

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Speaker 3: NFL defense, just his physical you know, size and whatever.

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Speaker 3: But now he is I don't know that he's any bigger.

461
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Speaker 3: Maybe he is stronger, but I think he may be

462
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Speaker 3: just smarter and more experienced and he knows how to

463
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Speaker 3: deal with things better, because you know, there were there

464
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Speaker 3: were times last year and you know before that where

465
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Speaker 3: you know, Herbig was Nick. Herbig to me was almost

466
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Speaker 3: like a pin runner in baseball. You know, a guy

467
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Speaker 3: who could be very effective but in a limited role,

468
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Speaker 3: and put him in the game. It could be a

469
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Speaker 3: critical situation too. You put him in the game for

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Speaker 3: him to perform his specialty, which was getting after the

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Speaker 3: quarterback and doing it in an athletic way with speed

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Speaker 3: more than power. And you know, it was kind of

473
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Speaker 3: a you know, it was kind of like he hate

474
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Speaker 3: using these baseball things. But you know you had high Smith,

475
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Speaker 3: who was you know, and I don't want to pigeonhole

476
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Speaker 3: him either, but he's more he was more of a

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Speaker 3: power kind of rusher and Herbig was more of the

478
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Speaker 3: speed kind of rusher. And I don't know, I would

479
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Speaker 3: imagine a tackle who is dealing with one of them

480
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Speaker 3: for a good bit of the afternoon and then the

481
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Speaker 3: other one coming in, you know, and if he's not

482
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Speaker 3: if the tackle isn't really watching the defensive substitutions or whatever.

483
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Speaker 3: He might come out of the huddle getting his stance.

484
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Speaker 3: Look up, Oh god, it's the other guy. You know,

485
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Speaker 3: before you know it, the ball snapped and you're dealing

486
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Speaker 3: with something you really weren't expecting. So but I don't

487
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Speaker 3: think Nick Herbog gets that anymore. I'm not saying that

488
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Speaker 3: he's not quick and fasten athletic off the ball. I

489
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Speaker 3: don't think he's one dimensional anymore. And I you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: He's got to play a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I certainly wouldn't curtail his playing time

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Speaker 3: if Alex Highsmith gets healthy.

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Speaker 4: You know, nice problem to have, but yeah.

495
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Speaker 3: You know, more more than you can use is better

496
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Speaker 3: than not.

497
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Speaker 2: Enough, no doubt, No doubt. There is a there's a

498
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Speaker 2: nice maybe leadoff hitter versus clean up hitter type of

499
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 2: type of an allergy there, But no that that makes

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Speaker 2: a lot of sense, and that certainly is a good

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Speaker 2: problem to have. Bob Labriola kind enough to give us

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Speaker 2: some of his time here on a Thursday, Labs, great stuff,

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much as always, and enjoy the bye week.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was just gonna say happy bye week, fellas.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait, can't wait.

506
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Speaker 3: Thanks Mike Toalma would tell you, don't be that guy.

507
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Speaker 4: Tell me that guy.

508
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Speaker 2: Right, I'm going I'm going to Nema Colin with the

509
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Speaker 2: missus Labs, so I better.

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Speaker 3: I I got no worries about you. But because if

511
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Speaker 3: you were saying you were going to Morganton or something,

512
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Speaker 3: I was gonna I was gonna try you.

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Speaker 2: No, no hooton and hard for me this weekend, Labs.

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Speaker 2: Just on my best behavior with the misses. Thank thanks

515
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Speaker 2: for the time.

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Speaker 4: As always, Bob, all right, take care.

517
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Speaker 2: There is Bob Labriola, Steelers Historian Steelers Digest Steelers dot

518
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: Com asked an answered part of the Steelers pregame show

519
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: regular here on the Drive. He does it all great

520
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 2: stuff as always by Labs. Matt. When we come back

521
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Speaker 2: to close down the first hour of the show, what

522
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: do you say you want to jump back in and

523
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Speaker 2: take a look at some college quarterbacks.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm like to do that.

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Speaker 2: How they've you know, they're a little further along than

526
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Speaker 2: their kind of quarter pole position in the college football season.

527
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Speaker 2: We got some real they're not.

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Speaker 4: Quite the halfway yet. I wouldn't say though.

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Speaker 2: Right after this week will be about halfway. After this week,

530
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Speaker 2: most of the teams will have played six games. It's

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Speaker 2: a twelve game makes sense. Now there's I mean in

532
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Speaker 2: a playoffs. Yeah, conference championship games and playoff games and so.

533
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Speaker 2: But yeah, we are getting closer to the halfway point

534
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Speaker 2: of the college football season. Plenty to discuss with some

535
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Speaker 2: of these quarterbacks, and we will do so when we

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Speaker 2: return West Sheeler. Matt Williamson, It's the Drive on Steelers

537
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Speaker 2: Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, Your teams.

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Speaker 1: About drive on your twenty four to seven home of

539
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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Back on the Drive here on a Thursday. As we

541
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Speaker 2: roll along, we will have thinking maybe early next week, Matt,

542
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Speaker 2: we can do like some some bigger picture global stuff

543
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Speaker 2: like pick division winners, and yeah, I'd.

544
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Speaker 4: Like to repick the vision playoff teams and some of

545
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Speaker 4: that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Like by Wednesday, we'll be fully focused on the Brown,

547
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Speaker 2: you know, but Monday and Monday will be a little weird.

548
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Speaker 4: We can get some stuff of the weekend.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, we will certainly go around the league and all that.

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Speaker 4: I might even want to pick like MVP. To this point,

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Speaker 4: you'll must treat.

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Speaker 2: It like the quarter pole it right, I absolutely love it,

553
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Speaker 2: and so we'll do plenty of that Monday and Tuesday,

554
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Speaker 2: I think, before kind of turning the page on Wednesday

555
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Speaker 2: to the Browns.

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Speaker 4: One thing that might have to dip back into this

557
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Speaker 4: even on Monday to bring it up, you know.

558
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Speaker 2: A little what have we've been calling it? College quarterback

559
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Speaker 2: kind of report if you will, maybe the college QB Report.

560
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Speaker 2: This is something we did the first couple of weeks

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Speaker 2: of the season. Took a week off last week just

562
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Speaker 2: because we were traveling for two days, and when we

563
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Speaker 2: were in Ireland with a couple hundred people at the pub,

564
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Speaker 2: they didn't want to hear us time quarterbacks. They want

565
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Speaker 2: to hear us time.

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Speaker 4: I don't have to do it every week, but we

567
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Speaker 4: need to check in, yeah.

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Speaker 2: No doubt, And so I kind of started putting together

569
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Speaker 2: a little spreadsheet for us. I'll beef this thing up.

570
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Speaker 2: Corn beef this thing up more over the over the

571
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Speaker 2: bye weekend and early next week. But Matt, I got

572
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Speaker 2: a couple names that I want to discuss with you today.

573
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Speaker 2: You want the familiar faces, some of the names that

574
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Speaker 2: we've discussed already.

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Speaker 4: Quick question before because I think I know the answer,

576
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Speaker 4: but it sounds like a lot of people are like, oh,

577
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Speaker 4: this quarterback classes and what everyone thought it was going

578
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Speaker 4: to be. It's a little disappointing through a month, but

579
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Speaker 4: there's new names.

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Speaker 2: So to me, that's the people that had been harping

581
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Speaker 2: on arch Manning, Leonoras, Sellers, Drew Aller, Garrett Nussmeier, Cade,

582
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Speaker 2: Club Nick. Those are the big five names coming into

583
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Speaker 2: this year. Yes, four of those. I think Sellers is

584
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Speaker 2: different because he got a concussion, he got hurt, he

585
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Speaker 2: just got back. He's not disappointing. He just missed a

586
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Speaker 2: couple games with injury.

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Speaker 4: Okay, right.

588
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 2: John Mattier is kind of in that same department now

589
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Speaker 2: as you list. But those other guys, yes, have not

590
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: bathed themselves and covered themselves in glory to this point.

591
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: It's been a rough.

592
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Speaker 4: Start running away with a first overall pick for any

593
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Speaker 4: of them.

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Speaker 2: It's been a rough start for arch Manning, Club, Nick,

595
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: and and Nuts have been up and down. Alor's been

596
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 2: up and down. Well, it's tough to judge because they

597
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: played three little sisters of the four, you know, villain

598
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Speaker 2: and then he wasn't good against Oregon and kind of

599
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Speaker 2: their first real test of the season. It's also organ

600
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Speaker 2: though who's been one of the best programs in college

601
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Speaker 2: football for the last few years.

602
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Speaker 4: And they were highly competitive that game.

603
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Speaker 2: And Oregan's won like sixteen of their last seventeen games

604
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Speaker 2: and the only one they lost was to the national

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Speaker 2: champion Ohio State Buckeyes last year.

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Speaker 4: You know, like they're a top seven or eight program.

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Speaker 2: Yes, their their coach, Dan Lanning. If I could have

608
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Speaker 2: any coach to be w VU's head coach for the

609
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Speaker 2: next ten years, it would be Dan Planning. Who's the

610
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Speaker 2: head coach of Oregon right now.

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Speaker 4: So let me know you strongly, Okay.

612
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Speaker 2: Yeah, hits his fourth year as the head coach there,

613
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Speaker 2: and I mean they've been in the National Championship, won

614
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Speaker 2: the Big Ten last year, their first year in the

615
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Speaker 2: conference pro pumping out tons of pros.

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Speaker 4: Programs, got a little money.

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Speaker 2: Programs, certainly in the NIL era. With the help of

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Speaker 2: Phil Knight, they can do a little flex in there,

619
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Speaker 2: more than more than most can. And they quarterback. They

620
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Speaker 2: they have a quarterback in Dante Moore. He's the one

621
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Speaker 2: who everybody is talking about now in this discussion. Started

622
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Speaker 2: his college career at UCLA. He's now in his second

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Speaker 2: year at Oregon. Matt and I mean, going into that

624
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Speaker 2: white out, that crazy environment at Penn State that it is,

625
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Speaker 2: you know, one hundred and ten thousand people night game.

626
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Speaker 2: All he did was throw for two point fifty three touchdowns,

627
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Speaker 2: no sacks, no turnovers, ran for three first downs as

628
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Speaker 2: well too. Obviously, more tests to come for him as

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Speaker 2: the season goes along, but I think that was the

630
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Speaker 2: first time for him that he had been in a

631
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Speaker 2: national spotlight a lot of people who hadn't heard the

632
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Speaker 2: name Dante Moore, and I don't think he could have

633
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 2: showed much better. Everybody now who does this, I don't

634
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Speaker 2: care if you're looking at it from an NFL perspective

635
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: of like who are going to be the top quarterbacks

636
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 2: coming out mock drafts and that kind of thing, like

637
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Speaker 2: we do it, or if you're just somebody who is

638
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 2: a college football person and it's a Heisman list or

639
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 2: a top quarterbacks list, he is quickly rocketing up every list,

640
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 2: every draft board, and rightfully so.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mentioned I was going to watch the JT. O.

642
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 4: Sullivan quarterback school of him against Penn State. I think

643
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Speaker 4: I through the first half, but it was enough to

644
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 4: really get a good feel and O'Sullivan even meant he's

645
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 4: like this kid was dynamite at the Elite eleven. You're like,

646
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,279
Speaker 4: people have known who he is. You don't go to

647
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Speaker 4: Oregon as a starter sty you know, right, But he's

648
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 4: well built, real effortless rower. I mean the ball comes

649
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 4: out of his hands nice and real quick. Didn't see

650
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:51,959
Speaker 4: a lot of mistakes, you know, in a big game

651
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Speaker 4: like that too. So again, you're more on top of

652
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Speaker 4: the stuff than I am this time of year, you know,

653
00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 4: But he's starting to get a lot of buzz. This

654
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 4: could be the first pick the draft y. Yeah, like that,

655
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 4: that seemed like that's when it's.

656
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 2: And you know how this works. It's almost like the

657
00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,959
Speaker 2: NFL Power rankings, like it's back and forth every week.

658
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 2: But a lot of people who do those weekly mock drafts,

659
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 2: he was number one, number two, number three this week

660
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 2: for a lot of people.

661
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 4: Makes sense not.

662
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: Surprising bye week for organ this weekend.

663
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 4: Because other guys aren't also grabbing it or so aren't.

664
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: Again, like it hasn't been the I still think by

665
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: the time we get to April, we're gonna be talking

666
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: about five, six, seven of these guys being drafted in

667
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 2: the first round. Yea, But it hasn't been the The

668
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 2: Usane Bolts start out of a shoot that I think

669
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: a lot of people expected. Bye week for Organ this weekend,

670
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: Bye week for our guy. Fernando Mendoza this weekend.

671
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 4: He's also hot.

672
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: He is another Heisman favorite right now, went into a

673
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: tough environment in Iowa, played well, led them on a

674
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,359
Speaker 2: scoring drive with like ninety seconds left in the game

675
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: through the game winning touchdown pass. He's another would be

676
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 2: a top five, top ten pick if the draft was

677
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 2: happening this if tonight Thursday was the first round of

678
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 2: the NFL Draft like it is, he'd be a top

679
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 2: ten pick.

680
00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

681
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 2: Those two organ those two quarterbacks, those two teams both

682
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 2: off this Saturday. But next Saturday they meet in Eugene,

683
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,360
Speaker 2: Oregon at Austin Stadium, which is going to be a

684
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: top ten matchup. Three point thirty game, crazy atmosphere. That's

685
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 2: a must watch, I think, just if you're looking for

686
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: and if you are especially kind of trying to keep

687
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 2: an eye, even if you're someone who doesn't really give

688
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 2: a rip about college football, you want to keep an

689
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: eye on the quarterbacks. Yeah, those are two quarterbacks who

690
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 2: could certainly be drafted in the top ten, who could

691
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 2: certainly we could be all through you know, February March

692
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: April talking about them as potential Pittsburgh Steelers.

693
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 4: Okay, my one question. I've seen some of Mendoza. Again,

694
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 4: I haven't studied any of.

695
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 2: These I send you. I send you random clips and

696
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: stuff from time. Yeah, he's not throw that he just made.

697
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,720
Speaker 4: He's not a super athlete runner though, right.

698
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 2: He is not. I wouldn't say he's the statue of

699
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 2: Liberty back there.

700
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 4: No one is not.

701
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 2: But he's not. He's not Sellers, He's not Dante More,

702
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 2: He's he's not to that level.

703
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 4: I mean, whenever we I'm always looking through a draft lens.

704
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 4: You know, if we're talking about more Sellers and Mendoza

705
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 4: and maybe no better than I But it seems like

706
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 4: to me they're probably if the draft for today, maybe

707
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 4: they'd be the ones fighting for top spot.

708
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: I would think.

709
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 4: So the knock on him will be, well, he's not

710
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 4: as athletic as the other do correct. You know, everyone's

711
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 4: gonna have a positive call him and a negative call him.

712
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,400
Speaker 2: And now he might have the more traditional kind of

713
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 2: frame and body type.

714
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, but what you're looking for, as.

715
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: You point out all the time, now It's not that

716
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 2: you have to necessarily be a dual threat guy, but

717
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: you have to have some level of run game and

718
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 2: mobility in your in your game.

719
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there was always a bar you had

720
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 4: to get over.

721
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 2: That's it. There's a bar, and the bar is way

722
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 2: higher than it was five.

723
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 4: Years ago, ten years ago, let alone drew Bledsoe twenty

724
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 4: years ago. You have to have some plus while you learn.

725
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 4: Everyone knows the transition in the league is so hard.

726
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 4: You can rely on your legs as a cheek cut,

727
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:52,800
Speaker 4: you know, while you're learning.

728
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 2: You know, saw some of that from Josh Allen. Oh yeah,

729
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 2: I saw that from Lamar. I mean a lot of

730
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: guys who have turned into very good passers but were

731
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: able to buy themselves some time while they were getting there.

732
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 4: I actually think Mike Shanahan with Washington when he was

733
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 4: the then Redskins head coach, really did that with RG

734
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 4: three was the first one that just said, Okay, I

735
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 4: know you a lot of work to do, but you're

736
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 4: going to be a super just when you're not. Your

737
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 4: run Like that was way ahead of its time. Yeah,

738
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 4: that doesn't seem like that long ago.

739
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 2: It really does. A couple of new names to throw

740
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: at you, Matt here. I want everybody at home to

741
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 2: kind of add these to their spreadsheets, add these to

742
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 2: their names, to be brought more to the first time

743
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: we brought up more, I got up. I got three

744
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: more to bring up to you here now. Jada Miava

745
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 2: out a USC started his college career at UNLV's now

746
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 2: in his second year with the Trojan six four to

747
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: two thirty. I like that, and he can move. He's

748
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 2: got fifteen total touchdowns, already comfortably number one in QBR

749
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: through September amongst college football. You know, yeah, yeah, yah, yeah,

750
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: played so many snaps, made so many throws.

751
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 4: Does ESPN do college QBR?

752
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: They do, Yes, they do. I thought they. You had

753
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 2: a dramatic comeback win in a Top twenty matchup against

754
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 2: Illinois U last week on the road. Big win for them,

755
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: Big win for Lincoln Riley, their head coach, who had

756
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 2: kind of been on the hot seat coming into this year.

757
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: I thought it was his worst game of the season.

758
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 2: He still threw for three hundred and sixty four yards,

759
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: had a QBR of eighty five point five. It was

760
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 2: his worst game of the season, was still super productive

761
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: and found a way to get it done and will

762
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 2: his team to victory even when he wasn't at his best.

763
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 2: That's what I like to see from these guys too.

764
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,800
Speaker 4: Now, I'm not married to this thought from the Steelers

765
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 4: first round pick if they're if they do go that route,

766
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 4: but I definitely prefer someone with size, you know, I

767
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 4: mean Ben versus Picket, you know, just the way that

768
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 4: they get ragged alled in the pot tot, you know,

769
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 4: things like that. Totally I'm gonna have. I would have

770
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: a hard time between now and the draft putting a

771
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 4: stamp of approval on a smaller dude. So I love

772
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 4: here in six four two thirty that can move, you

773
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

774
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 2: And and Dante More is not tiny either.

775
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 4: He's he's pretty well built.

776
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: Three two six yeah, yeah, yeah, But but Mia six

777
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 2: four to two thirty is is a big quarter, a

778
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 2: big dude. Ty Simpson from Alabama is starting to get

779
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: a lot of mention in these first round box. He's

780
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,239
Speaker 2: in his fourth year at Bbama, not one of these

781
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 2: portal guys. He's been there six two, two hundred and

782
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 2: eight pounds, over eleven hundred passing yards thirteen total touchdowns.

783
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 2: Really struggled in their season opener against Florida State where

784
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:26,359
Speaker 2: Alabama went there, Uh, to Tallahassee. I was said, to Tuscaloosa,

785
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: that's where Alabama is. They went to Tallahassee and and

786
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: lost that opening game in kind of dreadful fashion to

787
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 2: Florida State. He has been very, very good since then.

788
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 2: Get this, Matt. He is h He went into Georgia

789
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 2: right in there, into Athens two hundred and seventy six

790
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 2: yards passing, two touchdowns through the air, a rushing touchdown,

791
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,959
Speaker 2: two rushing first downs. Right now, he is on pace

792
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 2: this season to throw for over thirty seven hundred yards,

793
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: forty two touchdowns, zero interceptions zero at the moment.

794
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, they'll probably throw it.

795
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 2: From games, has not yet.

796
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 4: That's huge.

797
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 2: He is one that is doing it against some some

798
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 2: good competition here and again a name that I just

799
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: wanted to bring up that we would have on our

800
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: list and in this conversation.

801
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 4: Good, no, no, no, I didn't know much about him, but

802
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 4: I knew to I didn't know. Things have turned around

803
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 4: for Bama a little bit, like they're not ready to

804
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 4: execute the head coach again. Yeah, not yet. I'm real

805
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 4: quick on Georgia. Like from what I understand Georgia's defense

806
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 4: is still awesome, but it's not like first round pick

807
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 4: backed up by first round pick like it was the

808
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 4: last couple of years. Does that sound right? Yes, I

809
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 4: mean they have like five defensive guys going.

810
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 2: They are still one of the best teams in college football,

811
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: but they're not the absolute juggernaut that they.

812
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 4: Were those couple of years.

813
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: Those couple of years Carter Jordan, Davis Walker, they won

814
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 2: twenty nine out of thirty games in back to back

815
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: championships those two years.

816
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 4: It was one of the best college defense I've ever seen.

817
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: Hundred percent, yeah, one hundred percent. Guys all over it

818
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: in the NFL.

819
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 4: Some of them couldn't get because they couldn't get the

820
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 4: quarterback fast enough because the guy was behind him exactly.

821
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: Right, exactly right. Leonora's Sellers again, I still I know

822
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 2: a lot of people are down on him, but he's

823
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: been injured. Their run game is non existent, their offensive

824
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: line is terrible. They rank one hundred and twenty sixth

825
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 2: MATT in Division I college football and pressure rate alowed

826
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: their offensive line, yes, one hundred and nineteenth, and sacks

827
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: per pressure. Some of that is on Sellers. He's done.

828
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: Some of them super athlete. I'm on the cape and

829
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 2: try and make a play.

830
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 4: I knew that was on the summer concerns. Like I read,

831
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 4: you know a lot of summer previews of these guys,

832
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 4: and they said he can hold the ball a little

833
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 4: and try to shrug off the nine tacklers. But you

834
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 4: also gotta remember, like the best example I ever saw

835
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,439
Speaker 4: was Jay Cutler at Vanderbilt. He ended be the first

836
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 4: round pick, and I think they won like one game.

837
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,919
Speaker 4: I mean they were always over.

838
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: Not at Alabama or Georgia or LSU.

839
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 4: He can't just game manage. He has to be Superman

840
00:42:58,480 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 4: for them to beat those teams.

841
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: You know what I'm really encouraged by from him, other

842
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 2: than the body type six three two forty, the athleticism

843
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: that that we all have seen, averaging fifteen point three

844
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 2: yards per completion, that's top ten in college football. He's

845
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,919
Speaker 2: feld averaging nine point two yards every time he tucks

846
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 2: the ball and scrambles.

847
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 4: He's unbelievably hard to tackle. That much I've seen out

848
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 4: of him.

849
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: He's only ridiculously only on one turnover, despite taking some

850
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: sacks and trying to play like Superman. Only one turnover.

851
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 2: Your guy, Johnthane, I think so too. Yeah, yeah, he would,

852
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 2: even though he hasn't shown his best through almost the

853
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: first half ish of the college football season.

854
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 4: But wait till he gets a senior bowl in the Combine.

855
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,960
Speaker 2: He could still very easily be the first overall pick

856
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 2: if the draft was this weekend. H Mattier still out

857
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: had that hand surgery, expected to be back at some point.

858
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 2: But I tell you what I think. It's it's I

859
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 2: shouldn't say nice to see, but you could see Oklahoma's

860
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 2: offense turned from dangerous to mediocre without him, Okay, and

861
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 2: that's a real testament to him. And then yeah, we

862
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 2: mentioned Garrett nus Meyer matt I mean he's banged up

863
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: as well too. LSU's run game is not good. They

864
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 2: are just they're struggling. Their defense is excellent, but their

865
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 2: offenses is very bad. One hundred and fifteenth in air

866
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: yards per attempt forty third and completion rate one hundred

867
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: and twelfth in yards per completion. He's I think, going

868
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 2: backwards on some of these big boards.

869
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 4: He doesn't blow me away physically either. I mean, big, strong, fast,

870
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 4: aren't gonna.

871
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: Be also in his fifth year at LSU, right, you know,

872
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: he's not a twenty year old that there's a ton

873
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 2: more potential there in juice to squeeze.

874
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 4: And I love like that he's a coordinator in the

875
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 4: league and he's super smart and all that, but that

876
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 4: might just be long term backup that ends up a

877
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 4: multi millionaire spot starter guy. I mean, you could have tools,

878
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 4: no doubt.

879
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you absolutely have tools, and I just don't.

880
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: He hasn't shown much through in that department. For Again,

881
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 2: a guy who's twenty three years old has been in

882
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: this system now for a long time and should be.

883
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 4: He should make it look easier. Huh.

884
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: They should not be leaning on their defense to win

885
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: games like they have been, and that's the reason that

886
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,920
Speaker 2: they that they lost Old Miss this past week for

887
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 2: their for their first season. Old Miss does as well too.

888
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I did not mention him, sorry, Trinidad Chamberliss

889
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 2: was the last person I wanted to miss. He wally

890
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: pipped Old Miss's original starter got in because of injury,

891
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,439
Speaker 2: but played so well that Old Miss has not taken

892
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 2: him out. He spent two years at Farris State before

893
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 2: transferring to Old Miss this past year, and just a

894
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 2: handful of starts over a thousand pass yards, two hundred

895
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: and seventy rush yards, seven total touchdowns, a lot of

896
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 2: explosive plays, very few negative plays, and he's got that

897
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: that run threat, you know, dual threat ability. Won the

898
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 2: Division two National championship last year at Farris State as

899
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: the starter before chance, and I think, Matt, there's a

900
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 2: real good chance Old Miss has never been to an

901
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 2: SEC champion ship game before in program history. He could

902
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 2: be the he could be the guy who finally leads

903
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: him there.

904
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 4: So this is really the first I've even heard of him.

905
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 4: But this goes back to the Jackson Dart evaluation from

906
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 4: a year ago. That's the most Mickey Mouse offense I've

907
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,320
Speaker 4: ever seen, not even.

908
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 2: Real manipulates those wide hash marks to brilliantly a brilliant

909
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: extent at that level of football.

910
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, yes, I mean, and we haven't seen Dart

911
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 4: really struggle in the transition. But that worried me to

912
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 4: no end. And I don't think Darts out of the

913
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 4: wood yet either. I mean, that is a Mickey Mouse offense.

914
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 2: Yes it is. And there's a reason why Lane Kiffin,

915
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: through all his stops, has produced a lot of good

916
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 2: college quarterbacks that I think he's brilliant that haven't necessarily

917
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: had the most success in the pros. He's a brilliant

918
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 2: college because he's another one. Like if I could have

919
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: him as the head coach at WU for the next decade,

920
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 2: I'd sign the contract. Yeah yeah, yeah, But it doesn't as.

921
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 4: A quarterback seem like there is joystick a little bit.

922
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 2: It doesn't translate the best to to how you have

923
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 2: to play now I have to win the quarterback.

924
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 4: It's the harder transition for these guys. Doesn't mean they can.

925
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 2: There's our college quarterback FU update here for for a

926
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Speaker 2: week what would be Week six in college football, Week

927
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Speaker 2: five in the NFL. A couple more names that we'll

928
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 2: that we'll get to next week as well too. I

929
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:12,240
Speaker 2: feel like man Hayes King from Georgia Tech probably deserves

930
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: a shout out. Sawyer Robinson from Baylor probably deserves some

931
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 2: some spin here seas.

932
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 4: And stuff I did on Robinson I thought was appealing.

933
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 4: We didn't bring up Club Nick.

934
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Speaker 2: We didn't bring bring up club much Sam Levitt from

935
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:27,839
Speaker 2: Arizona State recently. So again, like this could be one

936
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 2: of those five, six, seven first round type quarterback guys.

937
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: UH type quarterback drafts Part of me come April. So

938
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: this is something we'll continue to expand and grow.

939
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 4: Last an we run. But he didn't blow me away

940
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 4: at Georgia. But Carson Beck seems to be gaining steam.

941
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: He deserves mentioning it, you know, like.

942
00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 4: He first overall pick just came out of that school

943
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 4: last year.

944
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 2: First overall pick came out at school last year. They're

945
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,800
Speaker 2: a top five team in the country right now, playing

946
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 2: very well. The offense is humming. He's looking much more

947
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 2: like the prospect people thought he was when he first

948
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Speaker 2: got the Georgia.

949
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Speaker 4: Now this is third hand information, but I've heard a

950
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 4: lot of people he really mature as a human being,

951
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 4: you know.

952
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:02,399
Speaker 2: Good for him.

953
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 4: This guy's Lamborghini stolen or whatever.

954
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 2: I was gonna say. I couldn't imagine someone paying me

955
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 2: like seven million dollars to go to South Beach and

956
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: me maturing as a human being. But good on him.

957
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, Ellen, maybe going there like Ward did is good

958
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 4: for quarterbacks.

959
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Speaker 2: I don't know, Maybe there's something there. Certainly hour in

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Speaker 2: the books, Another Hour to go West Huuler Matt Williams

961
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