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Speaker 1: tech Stuff from how stuff works dot com. Hello everyone,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to tech Stuff for one of the last times.

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Speaker 1: In My name is Chris Poulette, and I am an

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Speaker 1: editor at how stuff work dot Com. Sitting across from me,

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Speaker 1: as always, or at least throughout this year, is senior

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Speaker 1: writer Jonathan Strickland. It's so hard to say goodbye to yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and today we're gonna do it. Yeah, We're going to

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Speaker 1: of the big stories that happened some of them. Some

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Speaker 1: of the stories may not be that huge, but I

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Speaker 1: start with January of eleven. So my January started off

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Speaker 1: lot of these these businesses that we're using these sort

433
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Speaker 1: of cards or email distribution lists or whatever they were

434
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,399
Speaker 1: using it for, they aren't experts in data management, so

435
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,480
Speaker 1: they outsourced that to a company that was an expert,

436
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: and Epsilon was this company. Unfortunately for everybody, hackers were

437
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: able to get access into epsilon system and we're able

438
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: to steal millions and millions of customer data records. Yes, yeah,

439
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: I think I I counted that I had somewhere in

440
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. I can't remember what it was. It's like

441
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 1: eight or twelve somewhere in there. People emailing me and saying, oh,

442
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: by the way, your loyalty card email got hacked. This

443
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: wasn't a credit card information, more like personally identifiable marketing

444
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,239
Speaker 1: stuff like your name and email address, which is you know,

445
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 1: plenty for people who want to sell out to spammers. Yeah,

446
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: or you can even use it to do identity theft. Uh,

447
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: It's it's a little bit trickier, but it's definitely one

448
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,639
Speaker 1: of those things that could play into identity theft. So

449
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 1: this was a big story. Uh. And then carrying on

450
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: the hacker stuff, hackers targeted Sony. Now, Uh, some part

451
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 1: of that might have to do with the issue with

452
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,520
Speaker 1: George Hots and how Sony was coming down on Hots

453
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Speaker 1: for modifying the PlayStation three others. There are other reasons

454
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Speaker 1: why people were uh justifying their actions against Sony. Let's

455
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: just say that that because whether or not those actions

456
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 1: truly well, I don't believe those actions are justifiable at all.

457
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's an illegal action. I don't I

458
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: don't see any justification for it, but there were people

459
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: who were trying to create some sort of justification for

460
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: why the hackers were doing what they were doing. At anyway,

461
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: they targeted Sony and they stole data from over seventy

462
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: million user accounts of the PlayStation network and Sony Online Entertainment.

463
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,919
Speaker 1: So they hacked into the systems and stole all this data.

464
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Speaker 1: And part of Sony's response was they brought the PlayStation

465
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Speaker 1: network down so that they could fix the security vulnerabilities.

466
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Speaker 1: Adding to this was the concern that Sony waited to

467
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Speaker 1: do that, yes, sat on the disclosure. They didn't disclose

468
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,159
Speaker 1: immediately that This was about a week later when Sony

469
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: let people know what had happened. And by this time,

470
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: by the way, yeah, and these were files that could

471
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: have potentially included things like credit card information, So it

472
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: was um uh, you know, it was a big deal.

473
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: At the time, no one was really sure how deep

474
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: this attack went and how much information they managed to

475
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: get and how much of it was encrypted, because as

476
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: it turned out, some of Sony's practices were not very

477
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: um secure. They they stored some stuff in plain text,

478
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 1: so it was unencrypted and if you just got access

479
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: to it, you could read it. Yeah, they used the

480
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 1: words may have a lot your your credit card information

481
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: may have been compromised, but we don't think it has.

482
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: You may have experienced the desire to strangle us UM

483
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: so PlayStation network was down for about twenty three days.

484
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Speaker 1: Uh Now, at that same time that same month, Anonymous,

485
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 1: the online group that is, you know, doesn't really have

486
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: a central leadership. It's kind of amorphous and difficult to define.

487
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:30,920
Speaker 1: Butonmous it wasn't he in the matrix morphous? Yeah, yeah,

488
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 1: I know. Kung Fu. Anonymous had also attacked Sony with

489
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: a distributed denial of service attack earlier in April, but

490
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,800
Speaker 1: eventually this didn't actually come out until I think late May.

491
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 1: But Anonymous made in this official statement as as official

492
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: as Anonymous can that the group was not behind the

493
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: attack that compromised the seventy five million records, and so

494
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: that that was not Anonymous as doing that was someone else.

495
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: But at the same time they had also targeted Sony.

496
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: So Sony was getting hit pretty hard in April, and

497
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: so we're Sony customers because they suddenly could not access

498
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: um the data that they you know, the different UH

499
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: services that they were used to. Yeah, the next the

500
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: next couple we're going to talk about happened in April.

501
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 1: But it's funny because I think about these and sort

502
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: of the the other stuff that leaked out as a

503
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: result of that, Apple suing Samsung for patent infringement, and

504
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 1: everybody at the time, everybody you know, quote quote unquote

505
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: everybody complaining about how Apple was being ridiculous because they

506
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: were suing for patent infringement for their technology, sort of

507
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: ignoring that all these companies sue each other all the

508
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: time and this is nothing new, but let's actually take

509
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: out that, you know, Apple really didn't make headlines with

510
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: this throughout the year because as a result of these

511
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: these lawsuits, UH, Samsung started to see a lot of

512
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: resistance in other countries. They're like, there are places throughout

513
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: Europe that would not carry certain Samsung products because Apple

514
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: head said that they were infringing on patents and they

515
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: were they were essentially copies of Apple designs, and as

516
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: a result, a lot of devices that Samsung creative were

517
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: not available in Europe and also Australia until recently. Um

518
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: As other recording of this podcast, I should say, but

519
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: other manufacturers have gotten injunctions against Apple in some countries too,

520
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: so but this this was kind of like the first,

521
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: this particular. Yeah, the patent the patent wars have been

522
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: going on for for years, but this was like the

523
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:44,479
Speaker 1: first starting off that that it's seemingly endless series of

524
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: stories about patent wars, Like every week it was another

525
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: story about someone suing someone else or something. Yeah, it

526
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 1: was a fresh round and the same sort of thing

527
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 1: happened once it became clear that Apple iPhones were tracking

528
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: user information. Even if you didn't have a location service

529
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: turned on, it had some information about where the user

530
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: had been, and that raised a lot of red flags.

531
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: And then of course it came out that yeah, other

532
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,479
Speaker 1: other devices do this as well. Uh and uh. In

533
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: most cases, it looks like it really isn't to track you.

534
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: It's to try and deliver the best experience that you

535
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 1: can get for these location based services that you know,

536
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: if it had to track down your location um each time,

537
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: every time you launch something, it would slow things down

538
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: and it would make the experience less enjoyable. So that

539
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: and and adding to the fact that if you call

540
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: an emergency service, let's say you need help from the

541
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: police or or a paramedic. Um, they're able to find

542
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: you that way too. So I mean, it's just it's

543
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,240
Speaker 1: just one of those things that it made headlines and

544
00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: need to go well. I mean, there's good stuff and

545
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: bad stuff about this. And now there's actually very recent

546
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 1: story that I'm sure we'll touch on at least a

547
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: little bit that um that kind of plays back into

548
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: this on a much more disturbing level. But let's let's

549
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: move on into May. So uh home May opened up

550
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: with a lot of big news. We there was the

551
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: big raid on Osama bin Laden's compound and uh in

552
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: which Osama himself was was was killed, and it was

553
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: live tweeted, yes by someone who heard a helicopter. Yeah,

554
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: he didn't go on he didn't know what was going on,

555
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: but he live tweeted the event. And that actually cut

556
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: a lot of news stories. Was that, you know the

557
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: fact that we are now in an era where major

558
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: historical events are going to be like, we're gonna know

559
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: more about them now because there's so much more access

560
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: for the general the general citizen of the of the

561
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: world to have access to technology and get messages out

562
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: that it's hard to imagine any major world event happening

563
00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: without sort of a citizen journalism UH element going on,

564
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: whether it was meant to pieces and journalism or not.

565
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 1: In this case, it wasn't. It was just a guy

566
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: in his house saying, what the heck is going on?

567
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: So that was kind of interesting. Also, in May, speaking

568
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: of what the heck is going on, Microsoft announced that

569
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: it was going to buy Skype, which was I think

570
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: it's eight point five billion dollars for Skype. Um. That

571
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: was a big deal. In fact, I got a lot

572
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: of people worried that Skype was going to change dramatically

573
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: and that all the the stuff they had been relying

574
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 1: upon with Skype was going to go away because Microsoft

575
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: was going to change stuff. So far, we haven't seen that. Um.

576
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: A lot of other people said yeah. A lot of

577
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: other people said no, what you're more likely to see

578
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: is Skype get worked into things like UH tablets and

579
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,719
Speaker 1: also Xbox. That you would see a lot of of

580
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: that functionality UH incorporated into other Microsoft products. Not necessarily

581
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: the Microsoft would get in the business of of fiddling

582
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: around with Skype. Yeah. Speaking of other big companies, Google

583
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 1: came out with the chromos. Yeah, they officially launched it.

584
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: Now there had been a developer build for a while,

585
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: but then we were talking about it about how it

586
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 1: was going to be the netbook operating system of choice.

587
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: Then netbooks kind of disappeared. Yeah, they don't really exist anymore,

588
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 1: uh not, not not like they did back in two

589
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 1: thousand nine and two thousand ten. Yeah. Yeah, we had

590
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: people asking us if we had early released chromebooks. No, No,

591
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: I wish we did. I haven't actually seen one in

592
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: the while. I wanted to play with with one, but

593
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: I never got a chance to. They also unveiled Google Wallet,

594
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: which was their UM, their near field communications payment service.

595
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: Use your phone to uh hold your credit card information,

596
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 1: tap it to pay. Yeah, so this was the software

597
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: side of that, not the hardware side, because there isn't

598
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: really much of a hardware side. Still a chip, yeah

599
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: you can get there's like a couple of phones to

600
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,800
Speaker 1: support it, but even the new phones that Jonathan and

601
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: I got this year don't support. Now the that's in

602
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: the United States. We should point out in other parts

603
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: of the world that technology has been available for a

604
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: few years, like in Japan, available for quite some time.

605
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: But here it's a big market and it's just now

606
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: coming here. So also in May the Experience play debut.

607
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:20,359
Speaker 1: That was the PlayStation phone. It's not called it's a

608
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: phone that is able to play PlayStation one games. It's

609
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: a PlayStation phone. All right, don't take don't take away

610
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: my award from that last show. Also our friend George

611
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: Hots Uh, he gets hired by a little company called Facebook.

612
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: You know whatever whatever happened to them, uh, just still around.

613
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: Um and the Winklevoss twins speaking of Facebook, and these

614
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: are the the twins from Harvard who who alleged that

615
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 1: they had hired Zuckerberg to work on a project for them.

616
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: And then zuckerbrook Berg took some of the uh stuff

617
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: that the Winklevoss Twins had suggested and incorporated into his

618
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: own project called the Facebook. Yeah, that would be Mark Zuckerberg,

619
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 1: the CEO of Facebook and an alleged founder, Yes, alleged

620
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: founder in this particular, he was definitely the founder of Facebook,

621
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: whether or not, whether or not all the information he

622
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: came up with. And you know, we did a whole

623
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: podcast about this, this whole scandal, and I'm not going

624
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,879
Speaker 1: to pretend to know what happened, but at any rate,

625
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: the winkle of us Twins had had taken a case

626
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: against Facebook. They received a settlement, and then they decided

627
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: that apparently that the settlement wasn't enough and they wanted

628
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: to go for more, so they took the case all

629
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: the way to the Supreme Court. That ultimately would not

630
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: work out for them, but they haven't given up. No um,

631
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: And I don't know why he worded it this way,

632
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: because now I'm hungry for bananas. But LinkedIn, the the

633
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 1: business networking site, decided to file for an Internet International

634
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: Uh oh, that was great. Initial public offering a stock

635
00:35:56,040 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 1: on I p O and it went, Yeah, the bananas,

636
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: it went bananas. Yeah. No. LinkedIn stock prices sward when

637
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: it first went public. Groupons did as well. Groupon also

638
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: went public in the the coupon service that that basically

639
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: clues you in that there's some cool deal going off today.

640
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: You should pick that up. So both LinkedIn and groupon

641
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: went public and both did incredibly well upon debut, and

642
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 1: both have sense um leveled off and actually declined quite

643
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: a bit. But yeah, that was that was a big splash. Uh.

644
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: And then in May we see the emergence of a

645
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: group called Lull's sec which was similar to the group Anonymous,

646
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Speaker 1: but but not a splinter group of Anonymous really, although

647
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: I think there was some association between the two groups beforehand.

648
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't like lull SEC was a specific arm of Anonymous.

649
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: But this was a group of folks who said that

650
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: they wanted to use their hacker skills to UH to

651
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 1: really target UM certain sites. And those sites might be

652
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: government based, might be just an organization or a company, UH,

653
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: and that they had their own agenda and they were

654
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: following that and they were very prankish and mischievous, but

655
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: also very destructive. UH. They would deface sites, they would

656
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: bring sites down UM and that would cause a whole

657
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: mess of problems throughout the summer of YEP YEP, and

658
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: in its preparations for opening its first headquarters on Mars Apple,

659
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: UH in June. In June decided to UH announce its

660
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: UH Spaceship campus. That's not really a real spaceship, but

661
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 1: people it's futuristic looking and people call it that. And Cupertino,

662
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: I would love to visit this place once it's complete,

663
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: because it it sounds really cool. Yeah. Jobs himself was

664
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: the one who sort of unveiled this, and he was

665
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: talking to the officials in Cupertino to make sure to

666
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: get clearance to build this facility because it's gonna be

667
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:04,879
Speaker 1: enormous and crazy and high tech and apples Apples epcot. Yeah,

668
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: it might even take off and be able to beam

669
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: people up. I don't know for sure. If it does,

670
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: it will do so expensively. We also saw E three

671
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: in in June, and that's when Nintendo unveiled the we

672
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: U console, the next generation we console, the first next

673
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,319
Speaker 1: generation console from the Big Three. Yes, uh to what

674
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,800
Speaker 1: debuted at E three, Although I'm sure that the PlayStation

675
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,800
Speaker 1: and Xbox fans will probably say that this is actually

676
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,240
Speaker 1: the catchup and this is this is a current generation

677
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: on the next generation. Yeah, it all depends on how

678
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: you wear it all that, but anyway, this is the

679
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: one that has the controller with the the touchscreen interface

680
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,360
Speaker 1: embedded in the controller itself. Originally it was going to

681
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: be a system that would only support one controller, which

682
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 1: kind of drove some people nuts, and now it sounds

683
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: like it's going to support up to two. So you

684
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 1: still won't be having groups of people playing all at

685
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: the same time, but you might have a face off

686
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 1: between you and a friend. It did seem a little

687
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: odd to me. That would only support the one controller

688
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 1: when that the original specs anyway, that seemed a little strange,

689
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: but um yeah, big news. Also in June, one of

690
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: the things that you had predicted that news Corps would do, yep, yep,

691
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: a specific thing you might say, specific Media purchased my

692
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: Space or what was left of it for a fraction,

693
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: a small, small fraction of what eighty million dollars that

694
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: News Corps paid thirty five million, which is again a

695
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: big markdown, a big markdown, and a reasonably sized lottery.

696
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: Jack Pott. Yeah, and Justin Timberlake was rumored to be

697
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: one of the investors in this behind he was bringing

698
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 1: he was bringing my Space back, but it didn't happen,

699
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,520
Speaker 1: so uh. And also, I mean, my Space for the

700
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 1: longest time was really looked at as one of those

701
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,320
Speaker 1: social networks where bands could have a pretty good presence

702
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 1: because it really supported that sort of um that sort approach.

703
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 1: But since other networks have emerged, they've kind of taken

704
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: a lot of that away. And plus my spaces interface

705
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: just never it got so so ridiculous and people created

706
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: such garish pages that it kind of got a terrible reputation,

707
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: mostly based off the way that users were behaving. It

708
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 1: wasn't the system itself that was the problem. It was

709
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: that people were It was like, you know, you move

710
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 1: into a nice neighborhood and then you suddenly put pink

711
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 1: flamingos on your lawn and you never bring the Christmas

712
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: decorations down. And I'm looking at Chris okay, anyway, for

713
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: some of us, we do that Christmas decorations on my

714
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: pink flamingos. Um. Yes. And then and then as as though,

715
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: uh as though, uh, the acquisition of my Space, uh

716
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,320
Speaker 1: was didn't have my Space already any distant second position

717
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: behind Facebook. Google attached an anchor to my Space thinking

718
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: it and further with the announcement that they were uh

719
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:06,919
Speaker 1: coming out with Google Plus a private beta, um, which

720
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: I got into on that first week. Yes, that was crazy.

721
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: That normally never happens, um which I know that doesn't

722
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: make any sense that normally never happens anyway, Yeah, I

723
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: got into the Google Plus private beta and took a

724
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: look and really liked the features that they had, and

725
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: especially the circles where you could create different circles for

726
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,200
Speaker 1: different people and you could publish information to just one

727
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: set of circles. And leave out the others, or you

728
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: could follow one set one circle just to see what

729
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: those people are up to and ignore everything else. All

730
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: of those features were really cool and something that Facebook

731
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: lacked at the time. Yes, um, and Facebook wasn't concerned

732
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 1: about it at the time, but yeah, it got It

733
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: was one of those things where because I think I

734
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: think part of the there was a huge surge to

735
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: try and get Google Plus invitations, Yes there was, they were.

736
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: They were like the most sought after ticket in town.

737
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: And I think mainly was because the whole exclusive of

738
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 1: anything once. Once Google Plus opened up to the public

739
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: a little later in the year, Uh, there was an

740
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 1: initial run on the site and then it very very

741
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: quickly tapered off. Yes, however when it when it did

742
00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: launch publicly, it really did sink MySpace even further down

743
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 1: the list because it is now in I'm thinking pretty

744
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 1: much still in second place Google Plus, so still distant

745
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: behind Facebook. Of continuing our hacking stories, lull SEC retrieved

746
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 1: customer information from Sony Pictures, so Sony is still under

747
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: attack here. This is this is a separate attack from

748
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: the PlayStation attacks that happened earlier in the year. But

749
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: little Sec is able to retrieve customer information from Sony's

750
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: pictures Sony Pictures, and also UH joins forces with Anonymous

751
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 1: to create Operation Anti sec meaning anti Security. So the

752
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: whole purpose of this was kind of to show how

753
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: companies that had been boasting about their secure measures in place,

754
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 1: you know, how much of that was was real versus

755
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: being a paper tiger. So in a way, it was

756
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: almost like a crusade to show how insecure some of

757
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: your data was despite what what these companies were predicting,

758
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: and you could argue whether or not that was a

759
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: you know, a noble effort or you know, Ascribing motives

760
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: at this point is really difficult, mostly because a lot

761
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: of the methodologies these groups used tend to fall into

762
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: sort of this prankish behavior, and so it's, you know,

763
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 1: at one point you're like, well, I'm sure there's some

764
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: motivations here that are somewhat noble in intention, but the

765
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: execution is such that it's hard to really say it

766
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 1: for sure. Anyway, they were dedicated to targeting governments, banks

767
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: and revealing holes in security and defacing sites if the

768
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: they felt that the companies were being negligent in their security,

769
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: and presumably the purpose of this was to improve security

770
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: across the Internet. Whether or not that actually happened as debatable, yes,

771
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: But then there was you know, while they joined forces

772
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: with anonymous uh luwle sec basically ticked off a lot

773
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: of other groups. Yeah, teen Poison was one. There's a

774
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 1: whole bunch of different hacker groups that what what the

775
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: other hacker groups started to say about lull sec was.

776
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: And they weren't necessarily judging what lull sex actions were.

777
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: They were saying, like lull sex, little sex uh members

778
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: were just script kiddies, Like all they were doing was

779
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 1: downloading code from some hacker site and then and then

780
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: doing a simple like sequel injection into a system to

781
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: bring it down. But that they weren't themselves designing the

782
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 1: tools that we're doing these things. And so these other

783
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: hacker groups began to target lull sec, and we're specifically

784
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,399
Speaker 1: dedicated to trying to discover who the members of lull

785
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 1: sec were and to give that information to the United

786
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,280
Speaker 1: States authorities because they were starting to take an interest

787
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: in the little sec at this time. And then we

788
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,240
Speaker 1: had recorded an episode about the next topic earlier before

789
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:12,320
Speaker 1: this happened. Actually because we had a number of listeners

790
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: who were interested in the virtual currency known as bitcoin,

791
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: where the computer actually manufacturers the virtual money, and you

792
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: can mine bitcoins and you can trade things in some

793
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: circumstances for for bitcoins, and it was some people have

794
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: made a lot of money. Yeah, it was. It was

795
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: a digital currency, and the idea was that the idea

796
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: was that the system was supposed to protect bitcoins from

797
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: from hacking. It was supposed to be a very secure

798
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: way to keep track of Like how do you keep

799
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: track of digital currency if you've got a medium that

800
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: allows infinite uh copying? Like if I can if I

801
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: can take a piece of digital information and copy it

802
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: an infinite number of times, doesn't that immediately devalue your currency?

803
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,479
Speaker 1: Because I've got one digital dollar? What if I copy

804
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 1: that a million times and I have a million in

805
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: digital dollars, my millionaire, Did I just devalue that currency? Yeah? Well,

806
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: this was the system was designed to to support UH

807
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: being able to track information about each individual bitcoin. So

808
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 1: theoretically it was possible to know how manywhere on the

809
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: market and how much the value was. And a lot

810
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,760
Speaker 1: of people did make some money on it and trading

811
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: for actual currency. But then in June the market crash,

812
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,360
Speaker 1: the value of the bitcoin dropped to less than half

813
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: of what it had been worth, and then it continued

814
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 1: to suffer throughout the rest of the year. And I've

815
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: even seen some reports recently that suggested that perhaps bitcoin

816
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: was just a social experiment and was never really intended

817
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: to be a true digital currency, which if that's true,

818
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: that raises some serious ethical questions, because you know, people

819
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 1: sunk real money into this, this whole system. So if

820
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 1: that's a social experiment, it's done by Dr Frankenstein. I

821
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 1: have his light by the way and by and picked

822
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: it up the other just between our podcasts. So we're

823
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: halfway through the year. Let's get to July. Yeah, thank goodness,

824
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: because we're forty six minutes into this podcast. We're gonna

825
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: pick up this pace a little bit, how about that? Alright, Yeah,

826
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 1: this was one of my predictions for the year. Spotify

827
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 1: debut in the United States, Ye, that was. That was

828
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: a pretty popular debut on until they latched on and

829
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: made a partnership with Facebook, which ticked off some people

830
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: that you know, didn't want to have to have a

831
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: Facebook account in order to listen to music. But anyway,

832
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: Facebook had their awesome announcement, which ended up being Skype

833
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: integration into Facebook Chat, which is useful but awesome. Yeah,

834
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: that was debatable. Oh here's a sad story. NASA had

835
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 1: its final Space Shuttle mission with the Atlantis flight, which

836
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: thankfully took off and landed safely, but that marked the

837
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: end of the Space Shuttle program. Netflix changed the rates

838
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: on its plans. This is when Netflix ceased to be

839
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: a darling in the eyes of many. This was the

840
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: beginning of a long, awful year half year for Netflix

841
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,879
Speaker 1: because they announced the change in the pricing for their

842
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: plans and that got a lot of members upset. And

843
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: I think the purpose of this, In fact, I think

844
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 1: all of the moves that Netflix has done, the purpose

845
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: has really been to try and channel people towards the

846
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 1: streaming only method because managing hard you know, hard copy

847
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: media is a big deal. I mean, it takes a

848
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 1: lot of money, and it takes a lot of infrastructure. Yeah,

849
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,879
Speaker 1: I mean the streaming costs are far less than their

850
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: shipping costs, right, and and warehouse space and I mean personnel.

851
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of money that has to

852
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: go into keeping a physical infrastructure going as opposed to

853
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 1: a digital infrastructure. Unfortunately they handled this one badly. Yeah,

854
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:41,799
Speaker 1: and and users kind of flipped out, and they would

855
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: continue to flip out through the rest of the year

856
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 1: for other reasons. We'll get into those two. Uh FBI

857
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: rolled out a massive rate to start trying to catch

858
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 1: people who belong to anonymous. So that was the government

859
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: striking back at the hackers. And this war continues. UH

860
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: and macOS ten Lion debut. Yes. Yes, And initially they

861
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:04,640
Speaker 1: made headlines for a couple of reasons. One relied mostly

862
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: on digital distribution, although Apple did start making a physical

863
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: copy available for people who didn't have the connection worthy

864
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: of trying to download such a large operating system. Um.

865
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: Also because it was less expensive for a massive operating system. However,

866
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: in the long run, UH people haven't been adopting it

867
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 1: nearly as as much as Apple and a lot of

868
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: other people I think thought they would. UM. I think

869
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: there are several reasons for that, probably the not the

870
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: least of which is there's a lot of software that's

871
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: not compatible. They took out some of the compatibility because

872
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 1: this is the first, uh well not the first, but

873
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,439
Speaker 1: it's sixty four bit only and it's until only snow

874
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 1: Leopard was as well, but it took the compatibility with

875
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 1: the U power PC version versions of the software out

876
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,680
Speaker 1: for for this version of the operating system, and UH,

877
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: I think that has damaged that somewhat. Um August Big

878
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: News Google said yeah, we'd like to buy Motorola Mobility yep.

879
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: So they did yep. So that was that was huge,

880
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 1: and that also raised questions of was Motorola Mobility going

881
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,919
Speaker 1: to become the exclusive Android handset developer. That of course

882
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: has not panned out so far. Also in August, Steve

883
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:22,359
Speaker 1: Jobs officially resigned as the Apple CEO and recommended Tim Cook,

884
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: the Chief operating Officer, as his replacement, and the Board

885
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: of Directors agreed. UH. Jobs did stay on as the

886
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: chairman of the Board of Directors UH in August, although sadly,

887
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,400
Speaker 1: of course, that story changes a little bit and just

888
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: a couple of months too. UM. At this point, the

889
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: HP debacle hits another interesting moment. So remember back in

890
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: March they said they were going to produce PCs that

891
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 1: could dual Boot and Windows and webbos. Well, in August

892
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,880
Speaker 1: they said, you know what, We're not going to develop

893
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: webo s anymore, and we're actually going to get out

894
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 1: of the PC business too. Yeah. See this is July

895
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: and August or when the car, the tech car start

896
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: squirreling all over the road and and at some points

897
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: leaves the road entirely. Yeah. Usually August is a really

898
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: slow month in tech news, and it was crazy this

899
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,360
Speaker 1: year was Steve Jobs resigning and Google, the Google Motorola

900
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: thing and HP thing. I mean, it was just it

901
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: felt like it was just gonna continue and things got

902
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: crazy the all over the place. In Libya, Gaddafi was overthrown,

903
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 1: the Arab spring was continuing there. And also in August,

904
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: that's when we saw the London riots where the people

905
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: who were who were actually rioting, we're using smartphones, particularly

906
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: Blackberries and black gray Messenger to kind of coordinate attacks.

907
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: And they were also using things like Facebook and Twitter, um,

908
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: and they were concentrating on rating businesses and that that

909
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: went on for almost a week. Um. It was pretty

910
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: scary stuff happening over in London. Moving on into September,

911
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: ihone prototype, Yeah, this was I remember. I remember the

912
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: day this happened, or the day after it happened. I

913
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 1: was in New York at the time, and a friend

914
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: of mine said, visiting a buddy and he said, Hey,

915
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 1: did you hear about the the guy who stole that stole?

916
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: You know, a guy had an iPhone prototype stolen in

917
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: a bar. I'm like yeah, then then it happened like

918
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: a year ago. Heays, no, no, it happened again. I'm

919
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,840
Speaker 1: like what And sure enough, uh, prototype for the iPhone

920
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:24,319
Speaker 1: for S was stolen out of from an employee at

921
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 1: a bar. So apparently we learned a couple of things. Uh,

922
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: if you are an Apple employee, you might need to

923
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: curb your drinking. Uh. And also, if you are a

924
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: tech reporter, you might need to start hanging out the

925
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: bars over in San Francisco. Um. And then we also

926
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: that was the same month where Netflix took another step

927
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: to completely alienate itself from all users. Okay, we're really sorry,

928
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: but what we're gonna do instead is split ourselves into

929
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: two companies. Instead of making two different plans or whatever,

930
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,880
Speaker 1: We're just gonna come become two different companies. They'll be Netflix,

931
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: which does digital distribution, and they'll be Quickster, which does

932
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: DVD only distribution. That will solve the problem, right, because

933
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: now you'll just have to have an account at both

934
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: of these companies in order to have the same service

935
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: you could have through one company before. That's improvement, right. Actually,

936
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: most people I think we're complaining about the name quick

937
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: stir well. I think a lot of people were also

938
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: just they did not like the idea of having to

939
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,400
Speaker 1: maintain two separate accounts for something that they originally just

940
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: had one. But again, Netflix was trying to find a

941
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: way to offload the physical media and concentrate on digital distribution,

942
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: and they just did it in kind of a ham

943
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,160
Speaker 1: fisted way. Uh. Then Google got hungry. Yeah, they got

944
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 1: zagatt or zag it. Yes, I was hoping you would

945
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: know the pronunciation. I've heard it both ways. Um. Yes,

946
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: the the famous restaurant guide um writer and publisher. Um. Yeah.

947
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: They they gobbled them right up and found it a tasty,

948
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 1: tasty treat um. Which is kind of different for Google because, uh,

949
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: you know, this is an opportunity for them to publish content,

950
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 1: which is not ben google strong suit in the past,

951
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: and in fact has raised questions from other other apps

952
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: and companies like Yelp, saying like are you are you

953
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 1: just going to push us out of the picture entirely

954
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,479
Speaker 1: and just put your content front and center. In fact,

955
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:16,319
Speaker 1: Google's had quite a few antitrust hearings throughout the year

956
00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: that relate to that, to like how it ranks pages

957
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: and whether or not it specifically tries to de emphasize

958
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: competitor pages. Of course, you know, this is really Yahoo's

959
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 1: strong suit. They're the ones in content and you know

960
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 1: they've got a grip on it because they're a massive

961
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: company that's well, that has a firm sense of direction

962
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 1: and great leadership. Well, you know, that was also the

963
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: month that Yahoo CEO Carol Bartz was asked to hit

964
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 1: the pavement. Yeah, and she was not quiet about it either. Uh. Yeah,

965
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 1: that was one of those work I hear, one of

966
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: those big events that ended up causing quite a stir.

967
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: Another one was HP gave the boot to its CEO

968
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: Leo And I don't even know is it a Potiker

969
00:54:58,520 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: appo taker. I thought it was Apothecar. It might be

970
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 1: Apothecar anyway, Yeah, Leo, he gets the boot and Meg

971
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: Whitman becomes the interim CEO for HP, and that's CEO

972
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: of eBay. Yeah, this political candidate, this guy really crazy

973
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 1: because this is where we started hearing the conflicting reports

974
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 1: about is HP really not going to support webo s anymore?

975
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: Is it really getting out of the PC business? And

976
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: to be honest, I don't think there's been a firm

977
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: answer out of the company since then. Well, it goes

978
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 1: back and forth. Yeah, most our most recent news again

979
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 1: in early December, is that they're not getting out of

980
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 1: the PC even right, But I'm not even gonna We

981
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,759
Speaker 1: were going to find out about webOS and then they said, um,

982
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 1: actually we'll get back to Yeah, so t is not

983
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: over yet. So we don't know how this is always

984
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: going to end. We just know that it's been a mess. Yeah.

985
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where you when you look

986
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:50,919
Speaker 1: back on the year, you really start to see how

987
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: messed up some of these companies were. I think is

988
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: going to be even worse in a way. But we'll

989
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: get into that in our Prediction show. Uh. Facebook and

990
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,680
Speaker 1: Spotify form their partnership in September. That was the thing

991
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:05,359
Speaker 1: that ended up taking off a lot of Spotify users

992
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 1: and uh Amazon announced its new line of kindles, including

993
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: the Kindle fire Tablet, which got people really excited. People

994
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: were very fired up. Huh about the Kindles and the

995
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: fire tablet. Well, yeah, that's because the fire tablet was

996
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:23,800
Speaker 1: you know, is a more affordable competition to the iPad,

997
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 1: another similarly priced tablets, although it does has some severe

998
00:56:29,000 --> 00:56:33,360
Speaker 1: limitations as well. You know, camera, no GPS, no cellular capability. No,

999
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: but if you don't care, if you don't care, if

1000
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 1: you just want a tablet device, then it might be

1001
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 1: exactly what you want. You also didn't mention the smart

1002
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: lists and subscriptions that Facebook added, which bring it more

1003
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,399
Speaker 1: in line with Google Plus. Yes, that's true. Facebook did

1004
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: make some moves to kind of being more like Google

1005
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: Plus and kind of take some of the wind out

1006
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: of Google's sales. Yeah, yeah, which is funny because Google

1007
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: now has Google Music, which also sort of com you know,

1008
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,439
Speaker 1: puts them in competition with Apple for their big news

1009
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:06,960
Speaker 1: in October. Yeah. Apple sort of started off October with

1010
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,640
Speaker 1: some happy news. You know, i Cloud, the long anticipated

1011
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: cloud service launched, not streaming music, but you do have

1012
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 1: the iTunes Match service, which will you don't have to

1013
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 1: upload stuff like you do with the Amazon and Google services.

1014
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: Where you upload your music, it will say, well, okay,

1015
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: we see that you have this, so we will make

1016
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: it available to you because we have it in our

1017
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: catalog for you know, a year, not not a terrible

1018
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: large price to pay. Also the iPhone for US which launched,

1019
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: but not an iPhone five. Yeah, the iPhone for Us.

1020
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 1: When it first came out, I think there was the

1021
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: kind of an underwhelming response, but that changed very quickly

1022
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 1: once it hits store shells. Which is pretty much true

1023
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 1: of every Apple product ever, is that an Apple product

1024
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: comes out and everyone says like, it's okay, but it's not.

1025
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: It's not exactly at least since the first iPhone, like

1026
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 1: it's okay, but it's not exactly what I was hoping for.

1027
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: And then when it hits sore shells, I gotta have it.

1028
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: And then iOS five of course was released, and that's

1029
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: available for many things, and and added some functionality that

1030
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: wasn't there in some of the devices too, along with

1031
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: Siri um you know, which is has been pretty popular.

1032
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 1: And that's about the only really good news we had

1033
00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: for October, because we had a lot of sad things. Yeah.

1034
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: The House of Representatives introduced the Stop Online Piracy Act

1035
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: or SOPA, which we did a podcast on just recently,

1036
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: so I don't think we need to go over that again.

1037
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 1: But anyway, that's it's some people suggest that it could

1038
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: quote unquote break the internet. Serious legal ramifications for for

1039
00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 1: a lot of websites and a lot of users. Um.

1040
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: And then we have some really sad news of various

1041
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 1: various passings in the technology field. Of course, the one

1042
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: that probably got the most foot the most coverage was

1043
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,680
Speaker 1: Steve Jobs passing away. He passed away the week after

1044
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: they introduced their iPhone Forest and the I Cloud and um.

1045
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:58,680
Speaker 1: His passing left a huge hole in the tech industry,

1046
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: and there was the for the entire week following there

1047
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: was nothing but but coverage of his passing. But even

1048
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: it even sort of brought the the many many wars

1049
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: between the operating systems to a halt for about a

1050
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 1: week while everybody said, now you know, he really was

1051
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: kind of a visionary, and he was. He was unique.

1052
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: That also saw Dennis Ritchie pass away in October twenty eleven. Death.

1053
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 1: Ritchie was the guy created the C programming language. UM,

1054
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 1: so yeah, he was. His passing was a big deal

1055
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,920
Speaker 1: for people who were into the whole programming side. Also

1056
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: John for many of the rest of us who never

1057
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: really knew who he was but relied on on on

1058
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: programs that are built on what he developed. Also John McCarthy,

1059
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: another programmer he passed away. He's the guy who coined

1060
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: the term artificial intelligence, and he invented the Lisp programming language.

1061
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 1: Lisp is a programming language that's used in a lot

1062
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: of AI. Uh techniques. I love a technology, So he was.

1063
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:02,240
Speaker 1: He was one of the forefathers of the whole AI

1064
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: movement that we're still you know, developing even today. Moving

1065
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 1: on into November, that's when Google Music launched officially officially uh.

1066
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 1: And they even shed the beta title yep, and which

1067
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 1: was shocking, right, I mean Google's Google's keeping those beta

1068
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: shorter and shorter. They also discontinued or announced the the

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Speaker 1: discontinuation of several products um, which they've been doing on

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Speaker 1: and off throughout twenty eleven, things like Google Buzz and

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Speaker 1: Google Waves, many of which are still somewhat supported right

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Speaker 1: now but are going to go away soon. Yeah. Google

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Speaker 1: Notebook is gone. Yeah. And then the Federal Trade Commission

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Speaker 1: brought complaints against Facebook about user privacy and have put

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Speaker 1: a a new restriction on them. They have to undergo

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Speaker 1: a twenty year period of privacy audits. Yes, because they

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Speaker 1: settled that. Part of the reason why is because it

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Speaker 1: was announced, um, actually not announced, but heavily speculated again

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Speaker 1: that Facebook would have an initial offering of stock again

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Speaker 1: all of its own um, which people are projecting will

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Speaker 1: be as of again this recording many many billions of

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Speaker 1: dollars into Facebook's coffers um and so a lot of

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Speaker 1: people were saying that the reason why Facebook was eager

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Speaker 1: to get this off the off the radar is so

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Speaker 1: that they can say, look, no, no, no problems here,

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Speaker 1: go ahead and buy our stock. So, uh, we'll see

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Speaker 1: if that actually happens. But yeah, and we're now over

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Speaker 1: an hour. This is the longest podcast ever officially we

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Speaker 1: have we have bypassed, we've gone beyond the Steve Jobs podcast,

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Speaker 1: and we normally would continue into December, but it's just

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Speaker 1: the beginning of December, so we don't know what's happened yet.

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Speaker 1: So here's quickly a rundown on what has happened. Steve Balmer,

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Speaker 1: Uh was picked up by the scruff of the neck

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Speaker 1: by Bill Gates and set outside of Microsoft and told no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: And so now Microsoft is looking for an interimc You

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Speaker 1: know that happened? Okay, Um, what else happened in December?

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Speaker 1: Santa got a Google Android phone and likes it, but

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Speaker 1: doesn't like it as much as he would have an

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Speaker 1: iPhone for us. Um Amazon acquired Yahoo. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember when that happened. Tomorrow, Um, yeah, very well.

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Speaker 1: Have Yahoo may very well get bought by the end

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Speaker 1: of the year. You know what, Chris, I think we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to hold off and we're just gonna have

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Speaker 1: to make some predictions for and hopefully if those predictions

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Speaker 1: also spill over into late eleven, the listeners will count them. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, sounds good to me. We're wrapping this up. Guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for sticking with us for this epic podcast

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Speaker 1: of epic epic nous. He was a lot busier in then.

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Speaker 1: I think we anticipate Yeah, yeah, I know. It's a

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Speaker 1: lot more happened in twenty eleven. And we, of course

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Speaker 1: than not cover every single text story because if we had,

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Speaker 1: it would have been five or six episodes. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: if you guys have any questions, if you have any

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Speaker 1: suggestions for topics you would like us to cover in

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Speaker 1: the future, let's no it's goes an email that addresses

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