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Speaker 1: Motherfucking many years, so many episodes, motherfucking many episode. Yep, yep, yep,

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Speaker 1: there it is. There it is. Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another phenomenal episode, a mini episode of My Mama

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Speaker 1: Code Me. I don't know why I'm saying it, the

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Speaker 1: that you the listeners have at home. You got it, baby,

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Speaker 1: You know what the many episodes are all about. I

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Speaker 1: And if this is your first episode, I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 1: This is not gonna be the easiest episode to start on.

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Speaker 1: But none of them are. It's mostly us just digging

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Speaker 1: and frankly, will work harder to make these more palatable

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Speaker 1: Nothing about conspiracy theory ever says hey, start here. This

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Speaker 1: Not everybody's happy with the work that I do. I

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Speaker 1: a message from a person named Jovan. Jovan sent me

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Speaker 1: And let me be very clear with you, joe Vin.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I appreciate your critique. I'm so happy

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Speaker 1: Amongst j Edgar Hoover's many racist highlights, and he had

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Speaker 1: Boo boy, he sounds like a cool guy. I'll be honest.

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