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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis

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Speaker 2: and Buck Sexton Show. A lot of news today and

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Speaker 2: we're going to break it all down for you.

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Speaker 3: Here's a story. We have a media focus on this one.

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Speaker 3: Let's take a look here.

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Speaker 2: PPI Producer Price Index inflation falls to two point three

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Speaker 2: percent lowist reading since September twenty twenty four. Fifty fore

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Speaker 2: casters in the Bloomberg survey. We're wrong on this one.

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Speaker 2: The tariffs. The bottom line here, the tariffs not having

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Speaker 2: the inflationary effect that we were all pulled would happen,

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Speaker 2: and not having the price rise effect that we were

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Speaker 2: all told would happen. So that seems like a pretty big,

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Speaker 2: pretty big deal.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: The economy thing's going well. Another story that may get

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Speaker 2: some attention. And President Trump, just to be clear, we're

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Speaker 2: monitoring it. We have our monitors going, we have our

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Speaker 2: team pulling from it in real time. President and Trump

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Speaker 2: is currently in the Oval Office and he is actually guys, can.

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Speaker 3: We join this live for a second here? Can we

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Speaker 3: try to join the president?

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Speaker 5: Let's find on free markets?

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Speaker 3: Those are report, but they're not true.

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Speaker 2: What would be useful to know?

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Speaker 4: Are you?

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Speaker 6: Are you committed to picking someone from the outside?

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Speaker 3: Are you going to inter interview individus? So many people

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Speaker 3: that want that job.

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Speaker 7: I have people that I've known a long time.

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Speaker 3: They're calling me begging for the job. You know what

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Speaker 3: you need.

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Speaker 7: They're a smart person with common sense, but you need

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Speaker 7: a very smart person.

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Speaker 3: For that job. Okay.

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Speaker 2: I think it's so he's talking now about the FED chair,

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Speaker 2: which it looks like it is. Well, it is underway

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Speaker 2: that they're going to replace the FED share that process

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Speaker 2: has begun. Rates coming down. Well, the economy could be

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Speaker 2: just so fantastic, Clay, it's already strong, already looking good,

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Speaker 2: already proving his critics wrong on tariffs. Another story that

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Speaker 2: may gets some attention. Here a truth from President Trump,

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Speaker 2: and he was just asked about this. We're gonna bring

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Speaker 2: you that SoundBite here momentarily. But this, Clay, is is

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Speaker 2: what the President wrote, and I am I'm just gonna

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Speaker 2: read it. I'm gonna read it for this is from

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Speaker 2: the President of United States from his official account. The

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Speaker 2: radical left Democrats have hit pay dirt again, just like

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Speaker 2: with the fake and fully discredited Steele dossier, the lying

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Speaker 2: fifty one intelligence agents, the Laptop from Hell, which the

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Speaker 2: dem swar had come from Russia.

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Speaker 3: No, it came from Hunter's bathroom. And even the.

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Speaker 2: Russia Russia Russia scam itself totally fake, made up store

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Speaker 2: used in order to hide Crooked Hillary's big loss in

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Speaker 2: the twenty sixteen presidential election. These scams and hoaxes are

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Speaker 2: all Democrats are good at. It's all they have. They're

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Speaker 2: no good at governing, no good at policy. Their new

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Speaker 2: scam is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein hoax.

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Speaker 2: And my past supporters have bought into this BS he

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Speaker 2: didn't write, BS, hook line, and sinker. They haven't learned

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Speaker 2: their lesson and probably never will. Even after being conned

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Speaker 2: by the lunatic left for eight long years. I've had

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Speaker 2: more success in six months and perhaps any president in

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Speaker 2: our history. Democrats are starved for things. The success Democrats

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Speaker 2: are starved for is the Jeffrey Epstein hoax.

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Speaker 1: Make America great again? Clay, what do you make of it?

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why he keeps talking about it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you truly feel like this story is not a story.

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Speaker 3: The number one thing to do is just move on and.

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Speaker 1: Not talk about it, because this is to me the

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Speaker 1: equivalent of a scab that Trump keeps ripping off. And

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Speaker 1: every time this happens, we get deluged with people that

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Speaker 1: are really upset with Trump over the way that he's

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Speaker 1: handling this. And I'm leaving aside the Epstein story for

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Speaker 1: the moment and purely talking about the communication associated with this. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so this is not Epstein based. It's been awful, Just

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Speaker 1: gonna be candid. Pam Bondi has been a disaster on this.

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Speaker 1: The fact that she gave all those influence and sirs

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Speaker 1: a Jeffrey Epstein binder, the fact that she said that

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Speaker 1: the Epstein files were on her desk. I understand why

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Speaker 1: that set forth the expectation that there were going to

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Speaker 1: be substantial results as a result of those public comments.

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Speaker 1: And then what is it ten days ago?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: Ish they walk it back in a Sunday night post.

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Speaker 1: If I remember correctly, a release, Buck, you can correct me,

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Speaker 1: a team, you can correct me on the dates, because

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Speaker 1: everything kind of runs together. And now here we are

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Speaker 1: two weeks later and Trump continues to post about it.

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Speaker 1: I think he's upset that he is getting criticism on

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Speaker 1: this front. I think that Trump feels that he has

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Speaker 1: done nothing wrong and that Epstein is old news. He

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Speaker 1: killed himself six years ago. Democrats had this story for

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Speaker 1: years that they could have done something with in the

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Speaker 1: Biden administration. They didn't, And I think he believes that

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Speaker 1: this is a manufacturer hoax of a story. I think

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Speaker 3: It's not going away.

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Speaker 1: And this is where again I'm addressing directly the management

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Speaker 1: related to it. We had the poor, I think, handling

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Speaker 1: had last week the report that Dan Bongino was basically

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Speaker 1: at loggerheads with the Attorney General's office and potentially was

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Speaker 1: going to leave. That seems to have been diffused. I

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Speaker 1: thought this story was kind of put to bed. I

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Speaker 1: woke up this morning in Atlanta and the number one

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Speaker 1: thing that's echoing all over the social media universe this

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Speaker 1: again and tell anybody that basically doesn't believe him, hey,

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Speaker 1: go you know, I'm done with you.

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Speaker 2: So that we have he was just asked about this

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Speaker 2: He was mid answer, so we wanted to give you

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Speaker 2: the full answer. President Trump in the Oval Office with

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Speaker 2: a bab rainey Prime Minister Press gaggle goes right to Epstein.

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Speaker 3: Here's what he said. We're going to play the full answer.

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Speaker 3: Listen in.

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Speaker 8: I really want to move past all this Atrey Lord

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Speaker 8: the FC files, but I do want to ask you

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Speaker 8: to clarify something you said this morning.

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Speaker 3: You said this was all hoaks.

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Speaker 2: Has your attorne each other told you this was a hoax?

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Speaker 7: Whatever it is, it's not a journey, General, No, I

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Speaker 7: know it's a hoax. It's started by Democrats. It's been

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Speaker 7: run by the Democrats for four years. You had Christopher

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Speaker 7: Ray and these characters and call me before him, and

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Speaker 7: it's a bad group.

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Speaker 3: It started.

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Speaker 7: Actually, look at the Steele Dussier that turned out to

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Speaker 7: be a total hoax. The fifty one agency intelligence so

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Speaker 7: called intelligence agents, it was a hoax.

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Speaker 4: There's all been a big hoax.

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Speaker 7: It's perpetrated by the Democrats, and some stupid Republicans and

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Speaker 7: and do the Democrats work. The Democrats are good for

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Speaker 7: nothing other than these oases. They're bad for policy, they're

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Speaker 7: bad for picking candidates that can get elected. No, No,

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Speaker 7: it's all of the Epstein hooks.

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Speaker 3: Takes a lot of time and effort.

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Speaker 7: Instead of talking about the great achievements we've had.

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Speaker 3: A great gentleman.

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Speaker 7: Yesterday, a's you know when on CNBC and you made

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Speaker 7: the statement that Trump bago down is the greatest president

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Speaker 7: of all in the United States. And instead of talking

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Speaker 7: about the things we've achieved, We've had tremendous achievement, they're

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Speaker 7: wasting their time with a guy who obviously has some

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Speaker 7: very serious problems, who died three or four years ago.

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Speaker 7: I'd rather talk about the success we have with the economy,

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Speaker 7: we've done, including in the Middle East. I mean, you

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Speaker 7: see it. Instead they want to talk about the Epstein hooks.

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Speaker 7: And the sad part is it's people that are really

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Speaker 7: doing the Democrats work as stupid people, Clay.

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Speaker 3: This is not going to make the issue go away.

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Speaker 2: I don't think people who are still upset about the

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Speaker 2: whiplash over the promise versus the presentation and that we

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Speaker 2: Epstein rabbit hole right now. We could do that. I

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Speaker 2: mean people are doing that. You can do hours and

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Speaker 2: And I think that frustration is completely fair. Well, look,

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Speaker 2: here's what I would say about the idea of the

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Speaker 2: think Trump probably does believe it. That this is a

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Speaker 2: continuation of the Russia collusion hoax, that this is a

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Speaker 2: He sees it as connected. Here's where I would say

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Speaker 2: There was no real crime committed related to Russia. I

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Speaker 2: saying there was no actual crime. There was no murder,

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Speaker 1: We know there were yeah, we know there were crimes

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Speaker 1: related to Epstein. Right, So unlike Russia collusion, where it

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Speaker 3: I actually think that.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the logic, if you look at

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Speaker 3: We're not going to solve this.

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Speaker 1: But we're not seeing that right because the President put

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Speaker 1: that statement that we played for you in the Oval office.

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Speaker 1: And so the second one is, I think you have

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Speaker 1: to just put out everything that you have. Now here's

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Speaker 1: the challenge as you well know this, Buck, whatever they

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Speaker 1: they're still holding things back. This is not all of it, right,

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Speaker 1: So the challenge you're in now is everyone who believes

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Speaker 1: believe if you give them a binder and push it

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Speaker 1: out publicly. And again, I don't know who advised Pambondi, Buck,

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Speaker 1: we said this when this happened, Giving those influencers the binders,

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Speaker 3: It made it seem like a clown show.

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Speaker 2: And there's nothing funny about any of the stuff that

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Speaker 3: Who in the world if you or I have been

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Speaker 1: I've been involved in investigations, right, I've done criminal defense work.

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Speaker 1: Who in the world said, hey, we should give these guys,

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Speaker 3: What is necessary, explain those reactions.

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Speaker 2: President Trump is saying even that position is not helpful

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Speaker 3: He can say what he wants to say.

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Speaker 2: But I think that to make this go away, it

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Speaker 1: I also think the more you talk about it, the

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Speaker 1: We started off the show talking about the economic news,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into Play and Buck. And we're racking and

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Speaker 3: Of your calls as well as your talk facts, and

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Speaker 2: You about the subjects of the day, as we always do,

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Speaker 3: So we'll dive into some of that.

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Speaker 2: But he may this and I saw this this morning

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Speaker 5: vote for him.

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Speaker 4: I told you the reason. I want to tell you,

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Speaker 4: I'm a believer. What I'm seeing happening is is absolutely

443
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Speaker 4: nothing short of a great thing.

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Speaker 3: And there's a feat.

445
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Speaker 4: People are walking with more bounce than there.

446
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Speaker 3: It's all around. I think that's all true. He went on.

447
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Speaker 2: He went on it at some length there, just to

448
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Speaker 2: talk about how much Trump is let's just say it's

449
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Speaker 2: just kicking ass with the economy and with the border

450
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Speaker 2: and do it. We talk about the difficulties as well

451
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Speaker 2: as the victories here, but let's not forget those victories.

452
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Speaker 2: And I think he's doing a phenomenal job in the economy.

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Speaker 2: The fact that once again he had essentially all of

454
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Speaker 2: the as we say, the consensus right the economists saying,

455
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Speaker 2: oh my gosh, you can't do this tariff thing. Tariffs

456
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Speaker 2: haven't raised prices and are bringing in hundreds of billions

457
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Speaker 2: of dollars to the treasury, and it hasn't done the

458
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Speaker 2: terrible things that that we were told we're going to happen,

459
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Speaker 2: despite so many people saying it. So Clay, at some level,

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Speaker 2: I'll put this out there. I understand his frustration because

461
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Speaker 2: anything that's not this that affects three hundred and fifty

462
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Speaker 2: million people to Trump right now, I believe he does

463
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Speaker 2: view as something of a distraction. So I get that

464
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Speaker 2: he's frustrated because the administration is doing on the big

465
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Speaker 2: things that matter with the economy. I think we can

466
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Speaker 2: all agree that phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: Job so far, not only the economy, economy, border crime,

468
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Speaker 1: which is what he ran on as his foremost three

469
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Speaker 1: tenth polls that he was focused on. I think he

470
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Speaker 1: is delivered in a massive way on all three of those,

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Speaker 1: and I give credit.

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Speaker 3: Look.

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Speaker 1: One of the things if I could go back in time,

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Speaker 1: one of the things I wish I could do is

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Speaker 1: I wish we gave as much credit to people for

476
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Speaker 1: admitting when they're wrong as we do when they're right,

477
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Speaker 1: because admitting when you're wrong on something is I think

478
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Speaker 1: a sign of intellectual health and growth. I'm wrong on

479
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: things all the time. When we're wrong on this show,

480
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Speaker 1: we try to come on and correct and we've been

481
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Speaker 1: wrong about a lot of things, as everybody is, especially

482
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Speaker 1: when you're in the prediction game. But what I love

483
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Speaker 1: about business guys and gals in general, ultimately it all

484
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Speaker 1: boils down to what the data shows them right. And

485
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Speaker 1: this Home Depot founder said like, Hey, I wasn't a

486
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Speaker 1: Trump guy. I was not a big believer in Trump,

487
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Speaker 1: and he now is seeing through the data that the

488
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Speaker 1: economy is producing that he might well have been wrong,

489
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Speaker 1: and he's going on and saying what I think is true,

490
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Speaker 1: which is Trump has had one of the greatest six

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Speaker 1: months of any president ever.

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Speaker 3: And I get it.

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Speaker 1: I get why Trump would be frustrated because there are

494
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Speaker 1: distractions from that. What I would say to Trump is

495
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Speaker 1: and if you ask me, I would tell him this

496
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Speaker 1: you face to face. Hey, you're creating some of the

497
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Speaker 1: distractions from your super significant successes, because as soon as

498
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Speaker 1: you sat down and decided to draft something on Epstein,

499
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Speaker 1: it's going to take away from other things that I

500
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Speaker 1: think are more consequential. Inflation below expectations is a huge deal.

501
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Speaker 1: Jerome Powell not lowering rates is a huge deal for

502
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Speaker 1: you and me and everybody out there that has a home,

503
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Speaker 1: that has a mortgage, that's buying a vehicle, that's paying

504
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Speaker 1: interest rates. They have cut rates seven eight times in

505
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Speaker 1: the EU, I believe in the last year or so,

506
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Speaker 1: we haven't done it hardly at all here. And so look,

507
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Speaker 1: is it a coincidence that Jerome Powell cut rates right

508
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Speaker 1: before the election? I don't think so. He was trying

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Speaker 1: to help Joe Biden. So the idea, in my opinion,

510
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Speaker 1: the idea that he's an a political economic steward, I

511
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Speaker 1: don't believe is true. And look, I mean, the economists

512
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Speaker 1: are wrong over and over and over again. I believe

513
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Speaker 1: this is five straight months where there inflation expectations have

514
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Speaker 1: been higher than what the results have been, and so look,

515
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Speaker 1: to me, that's the story. The economy is starting to roar.

516
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Speaker 1: We need to have more steam. More steam would be

517
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Speaker 1: lower interest rates that would help get the growth rate up. Fuck,

518
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Speaker 1: we just hit a surplus in June. It's like nobody

519
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Speaker 1: even noticed it. How much time have we spent talking about, Hey,

520
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Speaker 1: we got to balance the budget. We got to make

521
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Speaker 1: sure that we're not spending more. Now I know that

522
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Speaker 1: it's not going to happen every month. I would love,

523
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Speaker 1: by the way, if the economy got roaring so much

524
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Speaker 1: that it did happen. If the tariffs ended up having

525
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Speaker 1: the impact that Trump believes that they might, that would

526
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Speaker 1: be an incredible outcome. But the fact that we actually

527
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Speaker 1: didn't borrow money in June for one of the first

528
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Speaker 1: times in years that we balance the budget, I believe

529
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Speaker 1: had a twenty seven billion dollar surplus that should be screamed.

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Speaker 3: From the heavens. No, there was I bet there.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't a single economist in the country that said, if

532
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Speaker 1: you asked them, hey, will there be a budget surplus

533
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Speaker 1: in any month in twenty twenty five during the Trump administration.

534
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Speaker 1: I bet there wasn't one single forecast of that occurring,

535
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Speaker 1: and it's already happened in six months. Gas price is

536
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: four year lows, the overall stock market prices, if you've

537
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: got a four oh one k record highs. All these

538
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Speaker 1: things are great, but you've got to be disciplined on

539
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 1: the messaging. And I think one, the media is not

540
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: going to want to give Trump a lot of credit. Two,

541
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Speaker 1: they're going to follow conflicting chaos. So if you sow

542
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Speaker 1: conflict in chaos in any way in your messaging, then

543
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Speaker 1: you're going to create, I think, a continued storyline which

544
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Speaker 1: suggests that you haven't been as successful as you have.

545
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Speaker 3: And I think that's where we are. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think that the more that people see the economy

547
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Speaker 2: and the trajectory overall of it as well, the more

548
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Speaker 2: understanding they'll be. And maybe even people coming out and

549
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 2: admitting that the choice between Trump and Kamala for the economy,

550
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Speaker 2: how could that even be a choice. How could anybody

551
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Speaker 2: any person think, Oh, yes, I wanted Kamala Harris to

552
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Speaker 2: be making the discomala hers couldn't couldn't run a you know,

553
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Speaker 2: a food stand. Somewhere's no idea how to run a

554
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Speaker 2: profitable eliminade. Stand I like what kids do in the neighborhood.

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Speaker 2: I don't think commonly she never run a business, but

556
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Speaker 2: I don't think she'd be able to do it. By

557
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Speaker 2: the way, Larry and Thomasville has a good theory here.

558
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Speaker 2: And by the way, have we reached out Ali to

559
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Speaker 2: Alan Dershowitz to ask if he will come on and

560
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 2: talk about some of these things.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's do that today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here is Larry who wants to talk some about

563
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Speaker 1: Alan Dershowitz.

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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Like Dershuis said said this weekend, it's not Trump's

566
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Speaker 8: d OJ and the FBI of Trump that is doing

567
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Speaker 8: the suppression of this evidence. It's a southern district in

568
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Speaker 8: New York and the previous administration's fault for that and

569
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Speaker 8: probably summoned South Florida where the previous trial was. Some

570
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 8: evidence was probably suppressed there. But they don't they don't

571
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Speaker 8: need to get Trump mad with his supporters. His supporters

572
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 8: do not blame Trump and his people. They blame the

573
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Speaker 8: previous bunch.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I think this is a good call, and

575
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Speaker 1: again we'll reach out to Alan Dershowitz. This is why

576
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Speaker 1: I'm focused. There's two different stories. To me, there is

577
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Speaker 1: the Epstein story, which has been I mean, it's twenty

578
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Speaker 1: years in the making. People have covered it at infinitum.

579
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Speaker 1: There's lots of uncertainties. Was the intelligence asset was he not?

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Speaker 1: How substantial is the larger ring of criminal perpetuity that

581
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Speaker 1: surrounds him outside of Jelaane Maxwell and Epstein himself. All

582
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Speaker 1: of those things. You can dive into them, deep dives

583
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: all those things. I think there's also the messaging side,

584
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Speaker 1: which is what he's calling about. If Pam Bondi and

585
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Speaker 1: Cash Pattel and Dan Bongino and Trump, after reviewing all

586
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Speaker 1: of these files, had had a big press conference and

587
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Speaker 1: they had answered every question and they said, guys, we

588
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Speaker 1: went over everything in here with a fine tooth.

589
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Speaker 4: Come.

590
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Speaker 1: We are going to release as much as we possibly can.

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Speaker 1: And what we have uncovered here is there's nothing that

592
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Speaker 1: can criminally charged against anybody else. We can't speak to

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Speaker 1: what evidence might have existed before. Certainly, if any new

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Speaker 1: evidence comes out, I think people, I'm curiousou how you

595
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Speaker 1: think of this would have gone Buck. I think people

596
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: would have been upset, but I don't think they would

597
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Speaker 1: have had the expectation based on the binders and all

598
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Speaker 1: the comments from BONDI that charges were coming and there

599
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Speaker 1: was going to be some grand revelation here. It's managing

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Speaker 1: communication wise, this story that I think has been a

601
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Speaker 1: failure beyond the shadow of a doubt.

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Speaker 2: Well, a huge problem has been the the on the

603
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Speaker 2: one side of the equation promising massive transparency.

604
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Speaker 3: Look, this is why I didn't like the Oh the.

605
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Speaker 2: JFK files, the MLK junior files. We're going to unseal

606
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Speaker 2: those and there's gonna be big things in there too,

607
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: because there's not I knew there wasn't in that. I

608
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Speaker 2: know people are now saying, oh, the CIA killed JFK. Please,

609
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Speaker 2: this is not something. Maybe you can believe that, but

610
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Speaker 2: that hasn't been proven based on these new files that

611
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Speaker 2: are out. And even beyond that, in those cases too,

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Speaker 2: I just want to say, Okay, so what do we

613
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Speaker 2: everybody involved would be dead, Like, what would we even

614
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Speaker 2: do about that?

615
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Speaker 3: Even if that were theoretically true? But I don't want to.

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Speaker 3: I know the problem with some point, and I think

617
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Speaker 3: this is important.

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Speaker 1: If there were truly earth shattering things in files on

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Speaker 1: JFK or RFK or any of those, the idea that

620
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Speaker 1: it would have stayed buried or not been destroyed for

621
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Speaker 1: fifty whatever.

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Speaker 2: It's saying, all along, Okay, anybody, there are people that

623
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Speaker 2: have access that would know these things, and they would

624
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Speaker 2: have smuggled it out. Just think, look at some of

625
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Speaker 2: the stuff that has been leaked everybody. I mean, I

626
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: was in the CIA when the whole Black Site thing

627
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Speaker 2: was leaked. I mean, stuff that's supposed to be kept

628
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: really really secret has gotten to the press.

629
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Speaker 3: Big juicy stories get to the press.

630
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Speaker 2: Now the Epstein thing is different because at different layers

631
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Speaker 2: of the Justice Department there have clear and it's recent.

632
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Speaker 3: Still there have.

633
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Speaker 2: Been efforts or you know, we're talking about the twenty

634
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Speaker 2: nineteen raid on this houseman, this is recent stuff, right,

635
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 2: This isn't fifty years of sitting in files. People could

636
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Speaker 2: see nobody cares anymore. And so when they say there's

637
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Speaker 2: gonna be a huge revelation and then there's not, that's

638
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 2: that's not good. That's that's a that's a problem, and

639
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: that's where a lot of this has come from. So

640
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Speaker 2: I I understand, I get it. I just other than

641
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: just sitting around and speaking about the frustration, we can

642
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 2: advise what we think should happen. Which is make more

643
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: stuff transparent, or make a do a press conference. Beyond that,

644
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: the people in charge of the people in charge, and

645
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: they determine what gets released.

646
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Speaker 3: We don't get enough.

647
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Speaker 2: We're not I'm not sitting on any documents. If I were,

648
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Speaker 2: you would know.

649
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Speaker 1: I think the challenge that you're in now, and I'm

650
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Speaker 1: just being candid, is if you release every single file

651
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Speaker 1: in the entire Epstein file. I'm saying that that happens.

652
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 1: A ton of people are saying it's not enough. Right,

653
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Speaker 1: There is no way to satisfy the demand now short

654
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Speaker 1: of frog walking perpetrator style people out in handcuffs associated

655
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Speaker 1: with it.

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Speaker 2: Well, we got Todd in Louisville, Kentucky wants to talk

657
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Speaker 2: to us about this. Todd, let's let's go for or

658
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Speaker 2: what do you got?

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, this couple angles Trump.

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Speaker 11: Here's what aggravated me about all of it, and Trump

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Speaker 8: Constant, We're going to.

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Speaker 11: Get to the bottom of it.

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Speaker 3: Da da da da da constant.

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Speaker 11: Now, when all the information when it came out, Bondi

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Speaker 11: Because all of them are in they're all instinct, and

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Speaker 11: I think they've done a wonderful job.

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Speaker 3: I'm behind them a million percent.

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Speaker 8: This doesn't bother me.

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Speaker 11: At all, but it's aggravating to me when I hear

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Speaker 11: Trump when he was asked a week and a half ago,

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Speaker 11: what they're still talking about that, like it's something that

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Speaker 11: hadn't been mentioned in five years. He just got off

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Speaker 11: the campaign trip for months talking about it, and just

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Speaker 11: make no mistake, Bongeno, Fatail and Bonding are appointed by Trump.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 11: A lot of people said all that.

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Speaker 4: Bon Geno knows.

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Speaker 11: He'll come right out.

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Speaker 11: Knows that Trump will drop the hammer. He can find

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Speaker 11: him on the spot get rid of him. I'm not

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Speaker 1: There if he tells them, I think, thank you for

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Speaker 1: let me say this, and I think Buck you would

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. All right,

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Speaker 1: come back at the next top of the next hour.

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Speaker 1: We're going to talk about Joe Biden, one of his

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Speaker 1: with the Biden doctor doing it as well. But I

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Speaker 1: will read some of the messages all right, Karen says,

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Speaker 1: you just said, the more you talk about the issue,

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Speaker 1: the bigger it becomes. So why do you keep talking

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Speaker 1: about it? Well, the President talked about it, so I

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Speaker 2: When the president's talking about it in a press conference

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Speaker 3: I think that's fair. But I'm gonna read these.

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Speaker 1: The Democrats had four years to release anything on Epstein.

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Speaker 1: Why is the Trump administration being demonized over this issue?

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Speaker 1: Seems to me you're helping keep this non issue alive

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Speaker 1: by making it a focus every day. I don't care

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Speaker 1: if Epstein was murdered or killed himself, and I can

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Speaker 1: happily live the rest of my life without seeing the list.

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Speaker 1: Please give it a rest. Another email every minute, this

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Speaker 1: is from Bob. Every minute you continue to talk about

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Speaker 1: a four year old Epstein story does exactly what the

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Speaker 1: Democrats and the liberal media want, exactly what Trump said today.

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Speaker 1: They do not want to talk about everything he is

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Speaker 1: doing to move the country forward. The legacy media. Once

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Speaker 1: By the way, okay, we're now going to get delused

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Speaker 1: in the exact opposite side. But those are the most

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Speaker 1: recent emails we just got. We come back Anthony Bernal

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Speaker 1: update on what his testimony was, why I think it

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