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<v Speaker 1>Very athletic, very polished pitcher, unlike a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 1>that are getting called up now, guys who are just

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<v Speaker 1>grunt and snort and throw the ball as hard as

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<v Speaker 1>they can.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gearing up for the twenty twenty five season, going

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<v Speaker 2>team by team. Now, we've got the Phillies for you.

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<v Speaker 2>So four storylines will crack them right now. October Offense, Hello, Phillies.

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<v Speaker 2>Bats disappeared in back to back postseasons, including a super

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<v Speaker 2>high chase rate in last year's NLDS. Andrew Painter's debut

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<v Speaker 2>could be coming soon, maybe mid season July ish. Alec

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<v Speaker 2>Boem is back in Philadelphia after many thought he would

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<v Speaker 2>be traded. How's that going to look? And then the

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<v Speaker 2>outfield upgrade? What is it enough to just go after

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<v Speaker 2>Max Kepler? Did they need to switch things up a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more?

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<v Speaker 1>So?

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<v Speaker 2>Let's start Kratz with the storyline that stands out to

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<v Speaker 2>me the most, because the Phillies clearly have been a

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<v Speaker 2>really good regular season team, and they've done some pretty

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<v Speaker 2>good thing in the playoffs the last several years, but

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<v Speaker 2>they can't get this club to go the distance. And

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<v Speaker 2>when you look at the team on paper, I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like It's the kind of team that ten plus years

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<v Speaker 2>from now we're going to look at and be like,

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<v Speaker 2>how the hell did that roster of players not win

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<v Speaker 2>a World Series? So how can they figure this outcome

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<v Speaker 2>playoff time? Because we know they're going to make the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's as big of an issue as

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<v Speaker 1>we make it out to be. We had Max Munsey

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<v Speaker 1>on talking about i think earlier this year, talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how they needed to make changes going into the postseason.

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<v Speaker 1>Reddy Is We were talking about Max Munsey's team kind

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<v Speaker 1>of blowing it not and not scoring runs for two

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<v Speaker 1>or three games. You know, it's still a short series

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<v Speaker 1>that they just lost this year, But going back to

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<v Speaker 1>the last two games the previous season in the NLCS

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<v Speaker 1>when they couldn't finish the Diamondbacks off like they had issues.

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<v Speaker 1>They had issues. And the biggest thing for me is

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<v Speaker 1>the chase rate. And that chase rate was at like

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<v Speaker 1>thirty one point eight percent or something that it said,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's really hot, but it's also a product of

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<v Speaker 1>a really small sample size. So do you believe that

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<v Speaker 1>they just choke or they don't show up, or do

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<v Speaker 1>they just batter worse pitching during the season, and then

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<v Speaker 1>when they face somebody good, they don't hit them well.

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<v Speaker 1>And in the postseason you're only facing the best pitchers.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, I think it was a combination of both.

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<v Speaker 1>I think something that they understand they need to make

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<v Speaker 1>the adjustment to. But I also think, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>if one of the games the Shadows were bad. Now

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, they're taking one or two games

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<v Speaker 1>and it's tough for either team to hit. They came

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<v Speaker 1>out on the wrong end of it. They faced a

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<v Speaker 1>hot Mets team. To me, I don't think there's as

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<v Speaker 1>much to change. And maybe I'm a Phillies apologist for

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<v Speaker 1>saying that, but I don't think it's as much as

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<v Speaker 1>is made out that it is.

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<v Speaker 3>They got beat. They weren't. They got beat. What else

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<v Speaker 3>is there to say they got beat?

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<v Speaker 2>Ye want to know why you were there?

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<v Speaker 3>They had They had a three to one lead against

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<v Speaker 3>the Diamondbacks lost right that. The Diamondbacks made a script

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<v Speaker 3>flip when they started throwing them a lot of breaking balls.

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<v Speaker 3>The Mets last year were just hot and they just lost.

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<v Speaker 3>Now you can blame the layoff from him, You can

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<v Speaker 3>blame whatever you want to blame for the Phillies reason.

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<v Speaker 3>But they didn't hit enough, obviously, and they're pitching other

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<v Speaker 3>than Wheeler wasn't great and Nola wasn't great. Now they

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<v Speaker 3>played a division foe, so maybe they knew them, but

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<v Speaker 3>their bullpen, they were counting on Hoffman and some of

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<v Speaker 3>these other guys to come in and who were really

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<v Speaker 3>good for him in the regular season, didn't get it done. Kirkering, Hoffman,

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<v Speaker 3>all these guys didn't get it done. In Steave has

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<v Speaker 3>gave up the Grand Slam, right, the Big Grand Slam

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<v Speaker 3>to Lindor. He didn't get it done. So was it

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<v Speaker 3>just familiarity because they played the Mets. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>but the Mets were on fire when they played him,

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<v Speaker 3>after having beat the Brewers the way they beat them,

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<v Speaker 3>they just rode that wave into Philadelphia. Wheeler went out

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<v Speaker 3>shoved game one and you're like, oh, this could be

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<v Speaker 3>a short series. Then the next three games, the mess

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<v Speaker 3>just outplayed them. Defensively, They played unbelievable nothing the Phillies

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<v Speaker 3>could do there. But you know, Schwarber didn't hit other

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<v Speaker 3>than really Harper and Castiano, the rest of the lineup

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<v Speaker 3>did not hit at all, so they got to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out a way to hit. Why I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 3>they just didn't hit. It was those two guys and

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<v Speaker 3>the rest of the lineup was not good.

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<v Speaker 2>So if they can hit, let's get to the second storyline.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they can amp up the run prevention even more

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<v Speaker 2>with an even more dangerous starting rotation. And I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's got the potential to do that. They acquired Hajesuslizardo.

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<v Speaker 2>But also, in my mind, the top pitching prospect in

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<v Speaker 2>the sport is Andrew Painter. It's him or Jackson Job.

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<v Speaker 2>Job's obviously gonna spend some time in the bigs with

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<v Speaker 2>the Tigers two. They're both awesome. They're pretty different looking pitchers.

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<v Speaker 2>But Painter is this tall glass of water with all

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of command and control. Already good, you know, good

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<v Speaker 2>with the glove too. Already I've watched him make some

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<v Speaker 2>nice defensive place, you know, on comebackers. What I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 2>like it is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's two days. That's two days in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Aj His

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<v Speaker 1>face got me. Scott's talked about a really good defensive pitcher.

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<v Speaker 1>Who cares? I think you said about Martin Perez, who cares?

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<v Speaker 1>That's not solidifying your defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Burley?

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<v Speaker 1>So what Mark Burley was really good because he threw

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred innings and he threw strikes for like fourteen seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>Could he field his physician? Absolutely? He was great. A

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<v Speaker 1>good field a j tell me if I'm wrong, But

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<v Speaker 1>a good fielding pitcher means like this much to me? Yeah? Nothing?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, hold on, hold on.

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<v Speaker 3>It mattered more when there was bunting. Nobody bunts anymore,

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<v Speaker 3>So what does it matter teams like? Imagine John Lester

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<v Speaker 3>was an awful fielding pitcher, but he was still pretty good,

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't he?

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<v Speaker 1>Teams?

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<v Speaker 2>Teams run? He holds runners well with his pickoff move,

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<v Speaker 2>And then you guys didn't let me do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you know Andrew Payner holds runners well? We've

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<v Speaker 1>never seen a pitch in a big league game.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh sorry that I watched some minor league video and

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<v Speaker 2>read scouting reports on Baseballamerica dot com. Upper nineties. Two

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<v Speaker 2>good breakers developing a change up that probably will work

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<v Speaker 2>out for him because everything else he's developed has looked good.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry for laying out the scouting report. I will go

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<v Speaker 2>back to my layer and just say Andrew Painter good

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<v Speaker 2>at ball krats go when we see.

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<v Speaker 1>Andrew Paynter is good.

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<v Speaker 3>But Andrew Paynter also already had one Tommy John.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I don't care about him in twenty eighty nine,

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<v Speaker 2>I care about him in twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>That doesn't matter. That doesn't matter for this year. We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the twenty twenty five season. To me, all

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<v Speaker 1>that all that Scott was saying from Baseball America was

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<v Speaker 1>something that I could see. I watched seven innings of

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<v Speaker 1>him pitching. It was all Arizona Fall League innings. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a very athletic, very polished pitcher, unlike a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of guys that are getting called up now, guys who

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<v Speaker 1>are just grunt and snort and throw the ball as

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<v Speaker 1>hard as they can. He has the body that you

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<v Speaker 1>would look at if you're a scout, that you're like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a repeatable delivery with such a tall, long body.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a frame that he can go into. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>that doesn't really matter much for twenty twenty five, but

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<v Speaker 1>if he can continue his command that he has had

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<v Speaker 1>in the minor leagues, he's going to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>step into this rotation that's already legit, but it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>need some help. I mean, Hazus Lizardo didn't throw a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of innings. You can't expect two hundred innings from

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<v Speaker 1>him like you're gonna get from Wheeler and Nola and

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<v Speaker 1>Ranger and Christopher Sanchez like guys, they'll throw over one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty innings, so you'll need them. And you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, if he throws strikes, maybe you can slid

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<v Speaker 1>them into a bullpen by September and October.

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<v Speaker 2>And there you go. The goal of winning one nothing

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<v Speaker 2>games in October could become a reality for the Phillies.

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<v Speaker 2>We got two more storylines to hit in the next

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<v Speaker 2>few minutes here on the Philadelphia Phillies. Let's keep it rolling.

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<v Speaker 2>Two more to go, BOMs bounce back, and do we

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<v Speaker 2>feel good about the outfield. Let's start with Alec Bohm aircrats.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you think he was going to be traded? And

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<v Speaker 2>how will he be with this club when his name

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<v Speaker 2>was popping up in trade rumors? Motivation, chip on shoulder,

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<v Speaker 2>status or things are awkward.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, if you're motivated on top of having ninety

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<v Speaker 1>seven RBIs in a one point seventeen ops plus with

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<v Speaker 1>a down second half, yeah, there's some motivation being traded,

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<v Speaker 1>whether I thought he was gonna be traded or not.

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<v Speaker 1>If he got traded, oh man, they would have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>a Hall because their team control. There is the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that he has improved on defense, and again ninety seven

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<v Speaker 1>stakes just doesn't grow on trees. I didn't see it.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't see all this like Philly talk about oh Manuel,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's moving here. Could he have gone in the Tucker deal?

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<v Speaker 1>That would have been a monster trade. So yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>could have. Does he bounce back if the question is

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<v Speaker 1>his maturity needed to get amped up a little bit? Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, anytime you get put in your place.

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<v Speaker 1>He got benched in the beginning of the playoffs like

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<v Speaker 1>that is probably more hurtful than trade speculations. I think

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna be fine.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he goes back there, and knowing what I

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<v Speaker 3>know about the Phillies clubhouse, they will embrace him.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll bring him in and they'll say, listen.

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<v Speaker 3>Dude, go shut all these people up talking about you,

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<v Speaker 3>like Eric Kratz and show him how good you can

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<v Speaker 3>be and what you've done before. I mean, that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he'll be fine. I think he's in the

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<v Speaker 3>perfect situation. In the perfect clubhouse to have guys say

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<v Speaker 3>we got your back, bro go out and play and

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<v Speaker 3>do what you did last year.

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<v Speaker 2>And I would say the Phillies are probably the second

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<v Speaker 2>most popular team among players when they talk about atmospheres

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<v Speaker 2>they want to be around. Dodgers get number one in

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<v Speaker 2>the powering right now. Someone on our show the other

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<v Speaker 2>day said, hey, a lot of people would love to

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<v Speaker 2>be with the Phillies. Jack Flarerity, that's right, Jack Flaherty said, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>last topic, last big storyline for the Phillies. They did

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<v Speaker 2>a little work, a little maintenance, will touch up on

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<v Speaker 2>the outfield. Do we feel like they're in a good

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<v Speaker 2>spot now? Aj Do you like Max Kepler added to

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<v Speaker 2>the mix here? I mean, this should be a nice

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<v Speaker 2>ballpark for him to smash if he can stay on

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<v Speaker 2>the field.

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<v Speaker 3>What's what's his position? I mean, what's his role gonna be?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you have you know Castillanos, you have is Rojas

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<v Speaker 3>going to play center field? Where's he gonna play? Because

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<v Speaker 3>he was not a great outfielder. He's a good outfielder,

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<v Speaker 3>not a great outfielder. So I just want to see

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<v Speaker 3>where he hits in this lineup there they've already you know,

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<v Speaker 3>when does he get his playing time? How much does

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<v Speaker 3>he get to play? Because he can be effective when healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate using the win healthy, but right now we

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<v Speaker 3>have to because Max Kupper, when he's good with the

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<v Speaker 3>twins and healthy, he was productive. He just had a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of time that he missed, whether his fault or not.

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<v Speaker 3>But I need to see him healthy, and if he is,

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<v Speaker 3>he can definitely help these Phillies.

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<v Speaker 2>He's gonna play left field, even though he's only played

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<v Speaker 2>right field the last several years. I feel like he

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<v Speaker 2>can handle it. But that's going to be the spot

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<v Speaker 2>for him, right Kratz, because Schwarber clogs up the DH

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<v Speaker 2>and then Castianos plays right, and then you've got left

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<v Speaker 2>field Kepler, who should be fine, and then it's Rojas

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<v Speaker 2>and Marsh handling center fields. Do you feel good about

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<v Speaker 2>that outfield mix because productivity wise, in terms of war

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<v Speaker 2>and defense and all that, it did not greade out

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<v Speaker 2>well the outfield last year.

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<v Speaker 1>No it didn't. I mean, I think you have elite

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<v Speaker 1>defense in center field if Rojas is your guy. I

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<v Speaker 1>think this really all hinges on Brandon Marsh. What kind

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<v Speaker 1>of leash are they going to give him? Will he

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<v Speaker 1>get to face lefties more than forty seven times. He

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<v Speaker 1>had forty seven late appearances against lefties. So the answer

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<v Speaker 1>probably know they're saying, no, he can't do it. To me,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they should let him, and I think he

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<v Speaker 1>could slide over. If Max Kepler starts to have a

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<v Speaker 1>good year, he could slide over to center field and

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<v Speaker 1>take care of some of that offense that Rojas doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>give you necessarily. But then you bring Rojas in as

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<v Speaker 1>a defensive replacement kind of in the ilk of like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a twenty fourteen Royals, the team I played

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<v Speaker 1>on bringing girod Dyson that type of thing. We're getting

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<v Speaker 1>into the weeds too much with it. To me, I

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<v Speaker 1>think Max Kepler is a good pick up. They've tried

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<v Speaker 1>right handers out there, they've tried right handed hitters other years.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they might go with like a marsh Kepler type

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<v Speaker 1>of thing. And then Wes Wilson's also going to get

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<v Speaker 1>some opportunities when they face lefty. So they're gonna be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>They're gonna be good. Are they better? That's too hard

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<v Speaker 1>to say, Wes Wilson.

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<v Speaker 3>Listen, Wes Wilson's going to have a hard time making

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<v Speaker 3>this team with the way it's constructed right now, because

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<v Speaker 3>where's he gonna play. He's not playing the outfield above

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<v Speaker 3>those other five guys you just needed.

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<v Speaker 2>He's playing super utility bench poor guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's He's the right handed bat off.

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<v Speaker 3>Every day, right day. So Kepler Marsh Wilson. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. I I just feel like, I feel like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're sign Max Kelper, he's got to play every day.

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<v Speaker 1>Just just my opinion. Okay, So if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>then I push then I push Marsh out. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that Kepler can play center field because then

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<v Speaker 1>you're not you're not playing the issues, You're not playing

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<v Speaker 1>Marsh against lefties. That's that's what happened last year. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I'm just no, I hear you. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think Wes Wilson, they feel like Wes Wilson will

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<v Speaker 1>give them something more than what because he's not playing

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<v Speaker 1>first base. He's just that right handed bat off the bench,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think they're gonna give him some shots out

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<v Speaker 1>and left, especially with what he did. He's killed it

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<v Speaker 1>since he's been up.

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<v Speaker 2>There, and they might have the best rotation in baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say Phillies, maybe Diamondbacks, depending on if things,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, look okay. And obviously, oh damn, there's some

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<v Speaker 2>good rotations. Mariners and Rodgers have sick rotation, but I

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<v Speaker 2>just get worried about the innings there, all right. So anyway,

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