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Speaker 2: We're gearing up for the twenty twenty five season, going

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Speaker 2: team by team. Now, we've got the Phillies for you.

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Speaker 2: So four storylines will crack them right now. October Offense, Hello, Phillies.

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Speaker 2: Bats disappeared in back to back postseasons, including a super

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Speaker 2: Boem is back in Philadelphia after many thought he would

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's as big of an issue as

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Speaker 3: They got beat. They weren't. They got beat. What else

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Speaker 3: They had They had a three to one lead against

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Speaker 3: the Diamondbacks lost right that. The Diamondbacks made a script

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Speaker 3: But they didn't hit enough, obviously, and they're pitching other

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Speaker 2: So if they can hit, let's get to the second storyline.

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Speaker 1: One of the dumbest things I've ever heard. Aj His

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Speaker 3: It mattered more when there was bunting. Nobody bunts anymore,

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Speaker 3: So what does it matter teams like? Imagine John Lester

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Speaker 1: How do you know Andrew Payner holds runners well? We've

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Speaker 2: So what I don't care about him in twenty eighty nine,

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Speaker 1: That doesn't matter. That doesn't matter for this year. We're

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Speaker 2: Two more to go, BOMs bounce back, and do we

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Speaker 2: Did you think he was going to be traded? And

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're motivated on top of having ninety

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Speaker 3: I think he goes back there, and knowing what I

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Speaker 1: They'll bring him in and they'll say, listen.

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Speaker 3: Dude, go shut all these people up talking about you,

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Speaker 3: like Eric Kratz and show him how good you can

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Speaker 3: I think he'll be fine. I think he's in the

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Speaker 2: And I would say the Phillies are probably the second

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Speaker 2: they want to be around. Dodgers get number one in

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Speaker 2: a little work, a little maintenance, will touch up on

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Speaker 3: What's what's his position? I mean, what's his role gonna be?

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Speaker 3: he was not a great outfielder. He's a good outfielder,

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Speaker 2: He's gonna play left field, even though he's only played

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Speaker 2: right field the last several years. I feel like he

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Speaker 2: and then Castianos plays right, and then you've got left

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Speaker 2: field Kepler, who should be fine, and then it's Rojas

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Speaker 2: that outfield mix because productivity wise, in terms of war

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Speaker 1: No it didn't. I mean, I think you have elite

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Speaker 1: think this really all hinges on Brandon Marsh. What kind

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Speaker 1: I think they should let him, and I think he

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Speaker 1: take care of some of that offense that Rojas doesn't

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Speaker 1: you know, a twenty fourteen Royals, the team I played

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Speaker 1: think Max Kepler is a good pick up. They've tried

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Speaker 1: Now they might go with like a marsh Kepler type

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Speaker 1: of thing. And then Wes Wilson's also going to get

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Speaker 1: some opportunities when they face lefty. So they're gonna be fine.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be good. Are they better? That's too hard

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Speaker 1: to say, Wes Wilson.

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Speaker 3: Listen, Wes Wilson's going to have a hard time making

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Speaker 3: where's he gonna play. He's not playing the outfield above

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Speaker 3: those other five guys you just needed.

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Speaker 2: He's playing super utility bench poor guys.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's He's the right handed bat off.

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Speaker 3: Every day, right day. So Kepler Marsh Wilson. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: don't know. I I just feel like, I feel like,

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Speaker 3: if you're sign Max Kelper, he's got to play every day.

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Speaker 1: Just just my opinion. Okay, So if that's the case,

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Speaker 1: then I push then I push Marsh out. But I

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Speaker 1: don't know that Kepler can play center field because then

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Speaker 1: you're not you're not playing the issues, You're not playing

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Speaker 1: Marsh against lefties. That's that's what happened last year. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and left, especially with what he did. He's killed it

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Speaker 2: There, and they might have the best rotation in baseball.

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Speaker 2: I would say Phillies, maybe Diamondbacks, depending on if things,

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Speaker 2: you know, look okay. And obviously, oh damn, there's some

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Speaker 2: good rotations. Mariners and Rodgers have sick rotation, but I

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Speaker 2: just get worried about the innings there, all right. So anyway,

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