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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she

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Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and

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Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me

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Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In the case you didn't notice,

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Speaker 1: I'm not broke, you know he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs,

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Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do,

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Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here

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Speaker 1: we come. Welcome to money Making Conversations. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: ras Sean McDonald. It's time to stop reading other people's

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Speaker 1: success stories and come on y'all and start writing your own.

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Speaker 1: I always tell people who always lead with their gifts,

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Speaker 1: their passion, and don't let your age, French family, and

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Speaker 1: interviews did not do on money making conversation. Always provide

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Speaker 1: the consumer that's your business owners, access to celebrity CEOs,

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Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. My next guest is truly

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Speaker 1: an industry decision maker. My next guest name is hash Cash.

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Speaker 1: He's one of the nation's top financial educators, personal bank

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Speaker 1: personal finance experts, business coach, motivational speaker, a former fifteen

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Speaker 1: four Amazon dot Com bestsellers. He's been featured on many

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Speaker 1: Street Journal, American Banker, CNBC, The Street, dot Com, Black

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Speaker 1: Enterprise Essence Magazine, and Ebony. He's dubbed as the financial Motivator.

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Speaker 1: He used a culturally responsive approach and teaching financial literacy,

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Speaker 1: He's my friend, ash Cash brother. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for having me. I appreciate you. It's a pleasant you know.

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Speaker 1: I had to throw on my money making shirt all

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Speaker 1: to make happen. What's the great thing about it is

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Speaker 1: that watching you build your career and watching you, as

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Speaker 1: you know, stand on the sideline watch people I started people.

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Speaker 1: I don't understand. You do not have to jump out

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Speaker 1: with some experience. Let's talk about your background a little

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Speaker 1: you give advice to. How did it all start for you? Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's it's it started uh nineteen years old, straight out

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Speaker 1: I started my career as a as a teller at

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Speaker 1: So in the in the words of the Honorable Sean Carter. Uh,

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Speaker 1: You know, they're really funny when we are just hearing

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Speaker 1: on what you're gonna do with it. And that's what

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Speaker 1: this conversation that we're having is about effort. Everybody wants

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Speaker 1: to be a great athlete, everybody wants to be a

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Speaker 1: great singer. Everybody wants to be rich. Everybody wants a

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Speaker 1: big house. Taxes come with that, electrical bills come with that, gas,

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Speaker 1: all of it's much more. You know. I remember when

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Speaker 1: I was reading John Sally when he had his house.

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Speaker 1: He bought the big house in Detroit. He said he

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Speaker 1: had like a seventeen thousand dollars electric bill. Guess what,

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Speaker 1: he bought a big house that who came with it?

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Speaker 1: He kept the lights on. He all those bad rules

436
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Speaker 1: have to be all that stuff come with it. And

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Speaker 1: that's what more money, more problems. As a motivator, what

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Speaker 1: do you what do you tell people who get straighted

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Speaker 1: when the dream isn't what they thought it would be

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Speaker 1: when they arrived. Yeah, I think I think that. So

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Speaker 1: the first thing I tell them, uh, be grateful, be

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Speaker 1: grateful that you know that this is. This isn't what

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Speaker 1: you want, right, it is. It is as important to

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Speaker 1: know what you don't want as it is to know

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Speaker 1: what you do want, right, because knowing what you don't

446
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Speaker 1: want will get you to what you want faster. There

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Speaker 1: are many things that that I thought I wanted. I

448
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Speaker 1: was like, oh this is Oh, this is it. I'm

449
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Speaker 1: gonna put my blood, sweat and tears. And then I

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Speaker 1: get to this destination and I'm like, oh that's it.

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Speaker 1: But but now it kind of it kind of weeds

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Speaker 1: out all of the all of the all of the things.

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Speaker 1: And so I don't I don't um, you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's a loss. Right. A loss isn't a loss,

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Speaker 1: it's a lesson, right, and so it's not a loss,

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Speaker 1: it's really a lesson. And so for those who get frustrated,

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Speaker 1: I think I think frustration, uh is a great tool

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Speaker 1: if you use it right, right, Because some people use

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Speaker 1: frustration as a way to stop. Some people use frustration

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Speaker 1: as a way to give up. Some people use frustration

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Speaker 1: to say, you know what, I'm not doing this no more.

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Speaker 1: But you need to know you have to use frustration

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Speaker 1: as a barometer. Right, I'll give I'll give your example,

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Speaker 1: if you ever are driving late night on any any

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Speaker 1: highway right and for whatever reasons, you get tired and

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Speaker 1: you start veering left, what's gonna happen. You're gonna You're

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Speaker 1: gonna run across those ridgets in the road. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: wake you up. It's gonna make that noise. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: wake you up. Imagine if the ridges weren't there, the

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Speaker 1: ridges weren't there, you'll probably hit the divider, You'll you'll

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Speaker 1: swirl around, your cause a bad accident. And so those

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Speaker 1: ridgets on the side. When you get tired and you

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Speaker 1: start you start veering left or beering right, it's a

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a wake up call. It's like, yo,

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Speaker 1: wake up you you you gotta get up. You're about

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Speaker 1: the crash. Frustration is that negative negativity, right, negative feelings?

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Speaker 1: It's that, it's not it's it's not for you to

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Speaker 1: scoff at it. It is a It is a barometer.

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Speaker 1: When you start doing something, you start to get frustrated

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Speaker 1: and you're like, I hate they just don't stop. Just

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Speaker 1: take it as a sign that you need to regroup.

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Speaker 1: That the negativity, that negative feeling that you have is

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Speaker 1: telling you that you are on the wrong track, and

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Speaker 1: now you gotta figure out how do I how do

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Speaker 1: I go back to the middle, How do I go

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Speaker 1: back to this road? So I could go in the

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Speaker 1: in the direction I need to go. And So anybody

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Speaker 1: who's feeling frustration, good, good that you're frustrating. You eren't

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Speaker 1: care about this thing or is you're not supposed to

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Speaker 1: be doing it. So now take a step back, analyze

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Speaker 1: why are you frustrated? How can you release this frustration?

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Speaker 1: And and and what should you be doing? Because now

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Speaker 1: that you know what you don't want to do or

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Speaker 1: don't like to do, what are the things that you

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Speaker 1: should be doing. Yeah, it's two things. Thank you for that.

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Speaker 1: That the blessing. I'm gonna I'm gonna take that little

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Speaker 1: clip out and put it on my social with them

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Speaker 1: promote you, my brother. But the other ways you're promoting yourself.

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Speaker 1: You have the Ash Cash Show or Daily Life financial

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Speaker 1: news show with Strange Money through Friday eight am the

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Speaker 1: nine a m. Eastern standard type on your YouTube channel

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Speaker 1: and it provides what we just hearing, motivation and advice

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Speaker 1: on finance, entrepreneurship and more. And then I recently appeared

504
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Speaker 1: on the Vault with ash Cast without Town and Labels

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Speaker 1: stepped in and with the crew, where he speaks for

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Speaker 1: successful taste makers and entrepreneurs on their mindset. When you

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Speaker 1: started tapping into my mindset, what was your work away? Yeah? Man,

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Speaker 1: so so it was first of all, it was a classic.

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Speaker 1: It was an honor to even just be in your

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Speaker 1: presence because you know, as I said on the show,

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Speaker 1: there was so there was so much. I'm always the

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes guy, like, right, what what's making this?

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Speaker 1: What's making this tick? Um? But when I started tapping

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Speaker 1: into your mindset, the one thing that that stood out

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Speaker 1: to me, um, is that it was your resilience, right,

516
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: was your ability to not allow nothing, honestly, right, nothing

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Speaker 1: to to stop you. That you set a goal, right,

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Speaker 1: and you see the vision for that goal, and you

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Speaker 1: go after that goal regardless, right, even when they're obstacles.

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Speaker 1: Because you've had a lot of obstacles in your life.

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Speaker 1: There were things that the normal person, right, and I'm

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Speaker 1: using normal as a you know, just as the word right,

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Speaker 1: the normal person would have given up given the obstacles,

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Speaker 1: given the things that that have happened in your life. Um,

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Speaker 1: but but but but but your mindset you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't even think you understand what giving up means to

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Speaker 1: be honest, right, because there were even moments in our

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Speaker 1: interview that you said something that that the normal persons

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Speaker 1: would have been more emotionally attached to it, like oh

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Speaker 1: this happened, right, But but she was like, oh yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was just that, you know, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: whoa like again? So so I think I think I

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Speaker 1: think that mindset of um, you know, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: resiliency that I know that the goal is this, and

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Speaker 1: I know on my way to that goal, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: be some some obstacles. They're gonna be some roadblocks, they're

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Speaker 1: gonna be some dechoes, they're gonna be some things. But

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Speaker 1: that's not gonna stop me. That's actually right, Like fail

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Speaker 1: is actually part of success. That's that that that that

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Speaker 1: the failures, the roadblocks, the things that you might stumble

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Speaker 1: on a part of your role to success. Or Resiliency

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Speaker 1: is that word that I would definitely attribute to you. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you. You know. The beauty of you is that,

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Speaker 1: uh my my blessing is that meeting people who um

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Speaker 1: make me better and being interviewed value, sitting around your crew.

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Speaker 1: I walked away a better person, a better leader. Uh. Motivation,

547
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Speaker 1: because sometimes you get trapped into rhythms. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I always tell people to experiences. Why people tell you

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Speaker 1: to go on vacation, so go to different destinations so

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Speaker 1: you can see things. And it's uh, either frustrate you,

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Speaker 1: which I love that because I love two words that

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Speaker 1: you've talked about. One word you say, frustration that people

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Speaker 1: don't understand the value of that. Selfishness. On my side,

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Speaker 1: people don't understand the value that because they take it

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Speaker 1: negative and to too negative words frustration and selfishness were

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Speaker 1: really those are the keys to you of success because

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Speaker 1: you selfishness is denying yourself and in advantage of every

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Speaker 1: every hour in the twenty four hours. That's selfish. Just say, man,

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Speaker 1: look if I gotta get it done, I gotta get

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Speaker 1: it done. That's overcoming the frustration. And most people say

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Speaker 1: I can't get it done because I don't have enough time.

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Speaker 1: I never understood what that meant. Not enough time? Are

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Speaker 1: you awake? Do you have your help God bless you

564
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: to get up? You have enough time? Set some goals

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Speaker 1: and what we did done. But the number one thing

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Speaker 1: about it, and that's why I'm recommending people to, you know,

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Speaker 1: just see your your show The Strange Money through Friday

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Speaker 1: eight am then no Eastern Standard time on your YouTube

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Speaker 1: town the Ass Cash Show. I'm gonna put that in

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Speaker 1: my newsletter. In fact, what I'm gonna do, I'm gonna

571
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: get with you because I got these little links I'd

572
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: like to drop on my social media and send people

573
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: can send you questions and let it drop into your

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Speaker 1: drop box and then you can see it and just

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Speaker 1: see how you're affecting people asked because you're an important

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Speaker 1: individual in our society. You're nonstopping. My complimented about you

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Speaker 1: and being the biggie smallest of financial motivation was as

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Speaker 1: as ultimate compliments I can get because you you got

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Speaker 1: the lyrics. The lyrics is financial literacy. And if somebody

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Speaker 1: is speaking it, they say, coming off the dome, as

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Speaker 1: you are in financial literacy. Take that crowd, Baby were

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Speaker 1: to the right like bey headed, Absolutely, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: And he's like, so what's the future for you? Let's

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Speaker 1: let's wrap it up and let's talk about what your

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00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 1: what's your future? Next step goes I mean, I mean

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Speaker 1: the fure, the future The future was uh, Emmy Awards

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Speaker 1: talk show. But now the future is the guy right

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Speaker 1: if you know, you know, if he is any uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Tony, the future is the Grammy the Futures

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Speaker 1: of Oscar of Futures and Tony and and you know,

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Speaker 1: courtesy of ris Sean McDonald. I received that. Um. But

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Speaker 1: you know the future is really for me, Um, just

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Speaker 1: continuing to do what I do every single day, but

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Speaker 1: just on the higher level, right, And so that that's

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Speaker 1: the beauty of you know what I do. I have

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Speaker 1: eight books that I've read. I'm writing more books. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, I have a daily finance show. I have

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Speaker 1: Inside the Vault with Ash Cash, which is a podcast. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, the goal is that it's just it's just

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Speaker 1: to continue and reach more people. And so you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm I might have to reach other hundred thousand or

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Speaker 1: a million people, but how do I have How do

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Speaker 1: I get that reach of millions? Yeah, So it's just

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Speaker 1: to continue to do the same thing I'm doing, but

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Speaker 1: on a on a larger scale. Well, you know, I

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Speaker 1: remember a couple of years ago a guy came in

607
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Speaker 1: with interviewing me. He said, Man, you're gonna feel stadiums.

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Speaker 1: He said, you what you say You're going to feel stadiums.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna tell you this, Ash, When I feel

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Speaker 1: that stadium, You're gonna be on stage with me. Brother.

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Speaker 1: That's how much I respect you. Uh you know, I

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Speaker 1: see as a younger version of me with with different

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Speaker 1: goals that are that are working for you, and I

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Speaker 1: want them to be different from mine. But more importantly,

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Speaker 1: I want to share you in any platform that somebody says,

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Speaker 1: who do you want Elise on the show? I understand

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Speaker 1: you're gonna get a call from me, Ash, because man,

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Speaker 1: you you you're be stud and I love you for that.

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Speaker 1: I love your team, I love what you're doing. Man,

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Speaker 1: if you ever need me for anything, I always know

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Speaker 1: I'm coming without hesitation. That means that means a lot

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Speaker 1: because you because you you you were on the mentorship

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Speaker 1: list as well, so you were with somebody that was

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Speaker 1: a mentor to me. You know, I think I told

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Speaker 1: you this, but uh, you know when when when back

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Speaker 1: into Steve Harvey WBLS days, Like when when any time

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Speaker 1: I went in that building for Sean McDonald was the name.

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Speaker 1: It rung bells in that building and I was like,

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Speaker 1: who is this for Sean McDonald guy? And when I

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Speaker 1: looked you up. I said, oh, he's the guy, and

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Speaker 1: just from a manifestation perspective, right, just like thoughts become things.

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Speaker 1: Because you know, now you've been on my show, I'm

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Speaker 1: on your show. You know what you've just you know

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Speaker 1: the help that you've just offered up, that's literally you

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Speaker 1: know you were once a mentor to me that I

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Speaker 1: a big advocate of HBCUs and Howard University is right there.

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Speaker 1: of United States is on Howard Graduate. Talk about that experience,

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Speaker 1: Michael Um Howard was, in hindsight, a tremendous experience. Um.

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Speaker 1: You know, I, I, my mom went went to Howard University,

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Speaker 1: And I didn't really appreciate it until because I just

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Speaker 1: And I walked into the theater in ira Aldridge Theater

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Speaker 1: And this is what I want to do for the

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Speaker 1: the fourth season. Um, the job came as a simple audition.

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Speaker 1: It was, you know, my manager said, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: but that in and of itself, you know, it was

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848
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: And John was so wonderful and he came into my

849
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: trailer and sat me down and said, Okay, this is

850
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 1: the arc of her story. We don't know the new

851
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: you know the details. You know, we flitch out with

852
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: flush out with every seat with every episode. Um, but

853
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 1: this is the arc. And once I understood, Once I

854
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: understood that this woman represented his own life, the women

855
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 1: in his life, various women in his own life, in

856
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: his own world. That I felt more comfortable because I

857
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: know that I'm connecting to some that many people will

858
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: understand and and will will recognize and identify with. That

859
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: was important to me. UM. So you know, once once

860
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: John laid it out, I was on board. And and

861
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:21,760
Speaker 1: I mean this, this role Sissy speaks to every mother.

862
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 1: This is the experience. Whether whether the issue is UH.

863
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,320
Speaker 1: You know that your son is dealing you know, crack

864
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: or cocaine. Those are just symptoms, Those are just side things.

865
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: Really we're dealing with the struggle of um, the evolution

866
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: of your child, you know, the transition from childhood to manhood,

867
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: the transition from you setting his path to him taking

868
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: the reins and creating his own path. And who hasn't

869
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: fallen and needed to get up in whatever way, and

870
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 1: and the journey of how that works. And then the

871
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 1: journey of the woman herself. Who is she outside of

872
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: being this young man's mother? Now he is at an

873
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: age you know, he once you send them off to college,

874
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 1: the empty nest syndrome, the who am I outside of

875
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: being the mother? And then the journey of of of

876
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: of how do you navigate continuing to because you don't

877
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: throw them away? Right, how do you navigate continuing to

878
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: hold on to them but needing to let them go?

879
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 1: And then the journey of a relationship with with the

880
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 1: man that you have known since you were a young child,

881
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: a young teenager. Uh and and then that relationship falls

882
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: apart and then it comes back together again. All of

883
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: these beautiful things are our journeys that every woman can

884
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 1: relate to. And it's tough, it's it's it's it's hard

885
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: to do these scenes a lot of times. But I

886
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: know that I'm speaking to every aspect of my womanhood

887
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 1: and many aspects of my sister's womanhood. So it's a

888
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: journey that I welcome. Well, you do a fantastic job.

889
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,760
Speaker 1: And you know, we we we talk about these characters.

890
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: You know, when I look at the it feels like

891
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: I'm watching Every time I watch an episode of it

892
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,919
Speaker 1: feels like I'm watching a short movie. It's the way

893
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: it's shot, the greediness, the language. You know, if you

894
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: have a problem with the inward, don't look at it,

895
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: don't don't watch no fault. Okay, if they there, there's

896
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: there's a dope language. And I'm just talking because a

897
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 1: lot of people see cable. They don't. But that's that's

898
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 1: why I love about this series because, as they say,

899
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: the script is real, the toneage is real, the characterizations

900
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: there is. There is violence on this and and I've

901
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: never seen a black drama like this on television, and

902
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: I think it's unique, you know, like because why I

903
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 1: was something different. You know, Wire was the different different,

904
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 1: but this right here was it was different because it

905
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: was tied to a family, and you guys are this family.

906
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: And that's why I relate to the parenting aspect of

907
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: what you're saying. What the where The Wire was about

908
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: a lot of different people being caught up in the drug.

909
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 1: It was about politicians. It was about the police and

910
00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and then how they would manipulate numbers

911
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: and say they were doing good and they weren't doing good.

912
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: This is about you in particular, cause you talked Alter,

913
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: I would do whatever I need to do to get

914
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:48,319
Speaker 1: my son out. It's about you and your relationship with

915
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 1: your son. Please tell us about that relationship, Um, Franklin.

916
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: Is you know as a mother, Um, you you watch

917
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: your child grow. You can see their greatness, Um from

918
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: very young right, Um. And Sissy has always seen Franklin's greatness.

919
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: She always knew she saw her husband in her child.

920
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: She saw the leader that her husband, Alton is in

921
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: her son, and she knew it was only a matter

922
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: of time that he would do great things. UM, and

923
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: her whole life, she's been invested in that reality. So

924
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:55,319
Speaker 1: it is heartbreaking that when she when she sees him

925
00:50:55,360 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: take this turn, M and you see this struggle UM

926
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 1: with him constantly trying to you know, we talked about

927
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: the change from episode two to episode three, UM, where

928
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: when she decides I'm going to help you, you know,

929
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: because she tried. She tried to do the moral thing

930
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 1: of walking away and shutting the door and saying I

931
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: am not with you, UM, and it didn't work. You know,

932
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:37,439
Speaker 1: you tried. You tried a tactic, you're trying to save

933
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: your child, and it didn't work. This is not a

934
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 1: woman who is going to walk away from her child

935
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 1: for real, for real. And when he got shot, it

936
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: was it was a natural she went to his aid

937
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: and now and there was a discussion that that we

938
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 1: didn't film that. There was a discussion with Franklin and

939
00:51:54,920 --> 00:52:00,280
Speaker 1: Sissy where Franklin says, Mom, trying to better our commune city.

940
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 1: I'm trying to do the great things that we deserve,

941
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: and I understood that, and it's a nice step way

942
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 1: to get there. But one nobody knew that this is

943
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: what it would turn into. Franklin certainly didn't. We had

944
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: no conscious he had no nobody in the country had

945
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: any idea that crack was going to evolve in the

946
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: way it does. We didn't have. This was at first

947
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: of its kind. So um, I understood what he was

948
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: doing and why he was doing it because it follows

949
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: the same path as his as his father, and I

950
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 1: was there with Elton during the Black Panther journey, so

951
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: I get it. So now it is I understand the

952
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: core of what you're doing. Let me help you try

953
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,839
Speaker 1: my best to do what I can to help you

954
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: heal this and get out of this so that we

955
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,000
Speaker 1: can get back to our lives. And it's just that

956
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:05,840
Speaker 1: constant investing in your child because you believe in their

957
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: greatness if we can just get out of this mess,

958
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: you know. And that's just the constant back and forth

959
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: that happens with this family, with so many families. You know,

960
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: the beauty of this series, and you know we're talking

961
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: about your family, but you have Irene who plays the

962
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: investigative reporter that her character builds this season and when

963
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: she gets information about what's really going on. And like

964
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: I said, you know, in a way, Franklin is caught

965
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: up in something that that was bigger than him. He

966
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: didn't know about what the government was doing. He didn't

967
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:44,400
Speaker 1: know that this was a calculated fundraising activity that the

968
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 1: reagular administration back it was tied to Oliver North. You

969
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: know all these names you could you can flip through

970
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: the pages, just the stories right there, Oliver dorth He,

971
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,320
Speaker 1: the one Helm, the whole, Nikko rober drug and selling

972
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:00,800
Speaker 1: drugs and guns and for those campaigns and wrong Reagan.

973
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: They knew about all this going on. So again the

974
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: black community was being used. Yes they were selling drugs,

975
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 1: but guess what. They were selling drugs and being fed

976
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: drugs cheap drugs by the way on the counturally low

977
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,720
Speaker 1: prices so they can so they can for a military effort.

978
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: And so you had Irene, then you have Teddy Gustavo

979
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:23,239
Speaker 1: who's crazy, and then you have all these that that's

980
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: what makes a series so unique because I don't have

981
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,000
Speaker 1: to focus so much on your family and poor Leon

982
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: he's trapped, he got Scully, his situation, all the just

983
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: born through all these characters. It's all these characters. They

984
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: are so colorful that it's really, like I said, it's

985
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 1: like watching a movie and it's so intense. And you know,

986
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: the scene where you was caught up with the police officer,

987
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: you know that was I felt so nervous for you, Michael.

988
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: I felt I felt like, oh my god. You know,

989
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: talk about that moment, not revealing exactly what went on,

990
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:03,279
Speaker 1: but my ah, you you saw that scene and I

991
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: thought something bad is was gonna go down. It's a

992
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: bad tea go down, but not like we expected. But

993
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 1: talk about preparing yourself for those moments because if X

994
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:15,839
Speaker 1: is allowed to see no snowfall, to keep it real,

995
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, um, preparing for that, preparing for anything that

996
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 1: comes up in this gut wrenching show. You really just

997
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 1: have to well I just I can't think about it

998
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: too much really. I mean, in order to do this

999
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: kind of work for me, I have to throw ego

1000
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: out the window, um and just allow myself to be

1001
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 1: very raw, um and whatever comes from that is what's

1002
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,280
Speaker 1: going to come. And and in in that I trust

1003
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 1: that I know that it is the truth because I'm

1004
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: not trying to do anything. Um, I learned my lines.

1005
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: I understand obviously, I understand the story. That The wonderful

1006
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 1: thing about this story, um, is this this show is

1007
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: that it is filled with some tremendous writers. So it

1008
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: makes the work so easy because I don't have to

1009
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:37,760
Speaker 1: second guess what's on the page. I can fully lend

1010
00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,879
Speaker 1: myself to the words on the page because they right

1011
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: so beautifully, they write so truthfully. Um, And then you

1012
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: know what, it is uncomfortable. You know, this scene has

1013
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 1: already been aired so I can talk about it. It

1014
00:56:56,239 --> 00:57:00,239
Speaker 1: was incredibly uncomfortable. It was all night. It was take

1015
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: after take. It was you know, in those damn handcuffs

1016
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: and in a graveyard. It was just how did they

1017
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: shoot you? Bang in your head though? When you was

1018
00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: in the back seat, in the back seat of this thing,

1019
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: over and over and over and over. I think I

1020
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: had a little nugget, but shoot for a few more

1021
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: days or something. So it was fine. And they kept saying, Michael,

1022
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: are you okay? Okay, I'm like just because because soon

1023
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: as I said, you know, because you know, I've cast

1024
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: some man, I've been fortunate to be part of production

1025
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: like that, and I go, she banged her head? Okay,

1026
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: how many times did he shoot this scene her banging

1027
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: because he applies to break? So I knew that was

1028
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 1: like in my mind, I watched this team and said

1029
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: when because it shot it this way. No, I think

1030
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: she banged her head. I tried my best. I mean,

1031
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:53,800
Speaker 1: you know, they don't have me doing a bunch of

1032
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: stunts and stuff, but I mean, you know, it's it's

1033
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: just I don't I don't want the buffers of the

1034
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: stunt doubles are all that stuff. If I can do it,

1035
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: if it's remotely doable, I'm just gonna do it because

1036
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just more truthful that way, you know. Unfortunately,

1037
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 1: when I got to see you know, all of the

1038
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: North on trial, you know about this whole situation where

1039
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,520
Speaker 1: that's why I said that you're taking a true story

1040
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: and putting in a dramatic series and you playing it.

1041
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: Some characters may be redeveloped, so may be fictional, but

1042
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 1: the beauty of it, this is a story about a

1043
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,040
Speaker 1: mother's passionate love for her son, trying to get him

1044
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: away out and in the process is she wrong? Is

1045
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,160
Speaker 1: Michael is your character? Wrong. Is Sisy's character wrong in

1046
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: her approach? Because you know he does some things, especially

1047
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: to those bookstore owners that was really cold. But but

1048
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: tell us is Sincy are you are you wrong for

1049
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: leading them in that direction? Are you just so determined

1050
00:58:55,600 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: to get him out? Boy? Oh, that's that's a deep question.

1051
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: And the only way I can answer it is um,

1052
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 1: wrong is in the eye of the viewer. But I

1053
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: tell you what though, I yes, Sissy has compromised a

1054
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 1: great deal of herself and it does not feel good. Yes,

1055
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 1: you know, it does not feel good. Um, Cissy has

1056
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: been compromising from you know, even taking this job as

1057
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: the the manager, the property manager. Um with with for

1058
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 1: tofu wits who is as crooked as they come? H

1059
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Speaker 1: turning a blind eye to that because why I need

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Speaker 1: to put food on the table. And ultimately not happy

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Speaker 1: about that either your husband? Right? I mean, and and

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Speaker 1: you know, but right, and and it's it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: almost okay, yeah, you know, and then and and then

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Speaker 1: that gentleman whatever his name was. I mean, there is

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Speaker 1: no doubt that Sissy looks at herself in the mirror

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Speaker 1: and realizes that this is not who she ever desired

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Speaker 1: to be. Ever meant to be. But it's a means

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Speaker 1: to an end, and it is my son. And if

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Speaker 1: I don't, who the hell am I going to be

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Speaker 1: that day when I turn away and say no, I'm

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01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: not doing it anymore and I wake up and my

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Speaker 1: son is dead? What? What kind of life? Who? Who? Who?

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Speaker 1: Would sis e B and when? When she was faced

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Speaker 1: with that reality that death is the next option for

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Speaker 1: her child, she had to compromise. But you know, it's

1076
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Speaker 1: it's it's always with the understanding that I'm doing this.

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Speaker 1: I'm taking two steps back because I'm gonna take three

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Speaker 1: steps forward and because of that vision of the steps

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Speaker 1: forward for Cissy, it's worth it. Wow, mother knows best

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01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: is I don't always know best, just trying her damnedest

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Speaker 1: to make things work. This is true, but in the

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01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: sense because you give him artists you you you hear

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Speaker 1: your husband complaining, So mother knows best. There your son.

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01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,920
Speaker 1: You're directing him to do certain things, whether he and

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Speaker 1: what you you're saying, You're trying to get him out.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, the beauty of this series is that

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Speaker 1: it gives you so many different ways to portray how

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01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,960
Speaker 1: this community is. Because you have a bookstore owners where

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Speaker 1: you take away that's a different all. I'm a drug

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Speaker 1: deal and you take them out of their lives, bilihoods

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Speaker 1: by doing the deal that they thought wasn't honest deal.

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Speaker 1: So that's a way of just taking the community. And

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Speaker 1: you told him to get that deal done. Your husband,

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01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: Alton tells you mother knows best that hey, you're dealing

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01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: with a crook, a snake in the grass. You go

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Speaker 1: stop that. I'll do whatever it takes to get my

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Speaker 1: son out of this mess, out of this world and

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Speaker 1: get his life right. But the beauty of it all

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Speaker 1: is is that is in nineteen five. You can catch

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01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 1: it every Wednesday. You're an amazing actress. Uh you have

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01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,920
Speaker 1: a beautiful smile. I don't see it that much on

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Speaker 1: this episode, but my my god, you are a mother

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Speaker 1: that I would want because guess what, you're taking care

1104
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Speaker 1: of it. And you know when I look at shows

1105
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Speaker 1: like this, you know, because here's here's I'm gonna go.

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Speaker 1: This is my compliment all my life, I've always wanted

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Speaker 1: a black godfather all I've like all my life, I

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Speaker 1: wanted to see it play out where there was love

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Speaker 1: tied to the violence, and why the violence, because this

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Speaker 1: is a good storytelling and I finally got I wanted

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Speaker 1: my soprano. Okay, I have it. I have it in Snowfall.

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Speaker 1: I have my soprano. And and and thank you and

1113
01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: thank you for allowing me to enjoy a series. Thank

1114
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,920
Speaker 1: you for getting me involved. Your sol's hard for Leon.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen to him. Poor boy

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Speaker 1: helped a little cracker. Now he's sleeping on the streets.

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Speaker 1: You know you. They're platting his hair, bringing his hair,

1118
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Speaker 1: and so many stories that are gonna get herself killed.

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Speaker 1: I don't know this newspaper again. What I love about

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Speaker 1: this show is I have so many times I can

1121
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Speaker 1: turn on the show. I know it's gonna be two

1122
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: or three solid story lines that gonna keep me emotionally involved.

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Speaker 1: But more important to the storyline that I care the

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Speaker 1: most about is your relationship with your son. Thank you,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so very much. I am grateful

1126
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Speaker 1: to have the opportunity to reach you and all of us.

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Speaker 1: I am so grateful. Thank you for watching us. Absolutely

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna watch it every Wednesday, FX ten pm, Snowfall.

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Speaker 1: And this is beautiful talented actors by you know from

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Speaker 1: the Jamaica parents and Britain and came over in tense.

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Speaker 1: She went to an HBCU. HBCU changed her life and

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Speaker 1: her son. He's gonna go to HBCU preferably how. But

1133
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Speaker 1: if he doesn't go to HOW she know it's an HBCU.

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Speaker 1: She's cool with it. But more importantly, I love you

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Speaker 1: and and don't change. Okay, I love you, Thank you

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Speaker 1: grows in the forest trees? Sure you know what else

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Speaker 1: and our family bonds grow too, because when we disconnect

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Speaker 1: the AD Council. My next cause she's a celebrity. She's

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Speaker 1: an inter decision maker when she's somebody at work in

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Speaker 1: the past. She's Porsche Coleman. She's an accomplished actress, singer,

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Speaker 1: and star on the Netflix series That Stop Embarrassing Me.

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Speaker 1: I saw It is really funny. Porsche's multifact of the

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Speaker 1: careering clues, guest starring and recurring roles, and hit TV

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Speaker 1: series like Silicon Valley, Bowlers, Good Girls switched their birth

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Speaker 1: to Parkers, Wild and Out A long time my board

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Speaker 1: Nick Cannon, she played an addicted mother and the powerful

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Speaker 1: TV Jake's film Woman Die Out Loose. She's also a

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Speaker 1: very familiar face and I've never got the commercial, so

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Speaker 1: I gotta ask how she does this in boost Mobile

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Speaker 1: smart car hand the expresident toy Yota. She's on the

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Speaker 1: show to talk about her career and most importantly, her

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Speaker 1: starring role in the new Jamie Fox Netflix to Come

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Speaker 1: Daddy Stopped Embarrassing Me. It premieres April fourteen. Please work

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Speaker 1: with the body making conversations, porst your cold? How are

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Speaker 1: you doing? Porsch? You go? First of all, that intro

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Speaker 1: was amazing, Thank you so much. First of all, as

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01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,919
Speaker 1: they say, I don't lie, I tell the truth. You know,

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Speaker 1: she keeps one. I heard it was all very much,

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Speaker 1: so you know, you know, I gotta just get the secret.

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Speaker 1: You know, I had a little career out there as

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Speaker 1: an actor, and I really I kind of blew up

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01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: as a producer and the writer. But I tried acting,

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01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,479
Speaker 1: and I audition for so many commercial portion I don't

1183
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,000
Speaker 1: know how how do you get a commercial? How does

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Speaker 1: one land of commercial? You know what? The commercial game

1185
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: is so tough, But it's all about the smiles. It's

1186
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 1: all about lightning up. Because remember most commercials are thirty seconds.

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Speaker 1: You don't have a lot of time. You gotta come

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01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 1: out the gate in the audition room quick, get to

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Speaker 1: the point and then hopefully captivate them that fast, and

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01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 1: then that's how you can get a commercial. Really, you,

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Speaker 1: you are not giving me any advice. I was still long,

1192
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Speaker 1: so you were just saying, chet, I'm gifted, I'm beautiful,

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Speaker 1: I got that natural I have with the people. No, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I got you at boost Mobile. No, it depends boost Mobile. Okay,

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Speaker 1: here's the funny thing. Boost Mobile. I was required to

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Speaker 1: talk really really really really really really fast. I had

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Speaker 1: to see a bunch of words within like fifteen seconds.

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Speaker 1: And I guess I was the best to do it

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Speaker 1: because I booked that commercial and I was doing and

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Speaker 1: then Miller Lite was just a beer commercial, just the

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Speaker 1: girl who was like the cute bartender. So it depends.

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Speaker 1: But you still gotta be able to get delivered the

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Speaker 1: dialogue and say quick and make them love you quickly. Well, congratulations,

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Speaker 1: that's a skill set. And like I said, we met

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01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: on the sitcom many years ago when I was writing

1206
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Speaker 1: for Doing Consultant, right before RT the same time period

1207
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 1: I was managing Steve Harvey comedy. You do comedy, you

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Speaker 1: do drama. Talk about that, and now you're on a

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Speaker 1: very successful drama comedy on Netflix starring my man Jamie Fox,

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01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 1: because I was co executively on the Jamie Fox Here's

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Speaker 1: along with Bentley Evans. I know Ken Winningham. I know

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Speaker 1: so many people in that show. When I saw the

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Speaker 1: cast and the production sheet, let's go, I need to check.

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Speaker 1: I need to check. I know all these people. Where

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Speaker 1: are you at exactly? Everybody? So, so talk about your ability,

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Speaker 1: and that's just about your talent. And that's why I

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Speaker 1: really wanted to interview you because it's so diverse, it's

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01:08:45,000 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 1: so it's so it allows for you to not be

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Speaker 1: intimidated by the audition opportunity. Talk about that ability to

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Speaker 1: both from drama to go to sitcoms because they all

1221
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 1: have different shades. They do have different shades. And I

1222
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Speaker 1: like you, you're speaking from an after and producer stand point.

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Speaker 1: It's like it's it's you call it shades, and and

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01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 1: in the actors we call it tone. So in the

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01:09:05,320 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: tone of a drama is totally different than the tone

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Speaker 1: of a comedy. And comedy you're speaking faster, you're moving faster.

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Speaker 1: The dialogue is it's meant to want to punch and

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Speaker 1: then onto the next joke when it comes to dramas.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's like you have to set up the storyline,

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Speaker 1: you have to deliver it differently, you have to deliver

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Speaker 1: it slower a lot of times. So I think going

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Speaker 1: back and forth between you know, The Parkers a long

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Speaker 1: time ago, and we did the Parkers fast forward into

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Speaker 1: Silicon Valley, fast forward into Wild and out with your

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Speaker 1: stand up comedy all the way to you know the

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Speaker 1: movie I did with TV Jakes. Women that are loose,

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Speaker 1: all different tones, but still it's always the root of

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Speaker 1: understanding the character and really bringing it to life based

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Speaker 1: on their backstory, their age, and their circumstances. And once

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Speaker 1: you kind of dove into that, then you can just

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Speaker 1: kind of play with wherever the character is going and

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01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:52,080
Speaker 1: where you feel like they should be at that moment

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Speaker 1: in the scene. And then you had to and I remember,

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Speaker 1: it's so funny as I hear you talk you was

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Speaker 1: in that a movie with Mike app So with the

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Speaker 1: Jakie Pro promoters. It was so funny. That movie's one

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Speaker 1: of my It's one of my movies when I when

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Speaker 1: I'm when I'm going through at night and I got

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Speaker 1: I gotta watch it. I gotta watch it. So Jankee promoters,

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Speaker 1: is Jakie and so funny. Yeah, I'm not seen Jakee promoters,

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Speaker 1: Mike as ice Cube are hilarious. Yes, yes, yes I

1252
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Speaker 1: said ice Cube was in it. And a lot of

1253
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,599
Speaker 1: people don't ice Cube was funny. He is so was hilarious, right,

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Speaker 1: People never think they think hard ice Cube, you know,

1255
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 1: trying to come. You think he's mean and just like

1256
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: this hard guy when you see him do comedy, and

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Speaker 1: even when you saw him in Friday, like he was

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Speaker 1: hilarious and Friday. But Jakie promoters, he's like this affrow wearing,

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Speaker 1: slick talking promoter who's got to do what he does

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Speaker 1: to Rob Peter, to pay Paul to get money for

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Speaker 1: this concert. And it does not go well. And I

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01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 1: let him know that I need my money. Don't play

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Speaker 1: with me, disrespected me, get my money. Yes, but that's

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Speaker 1: why so you in the sense I was just laying

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Speaker 1: there in the audience. Now before we get to the

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Speaker 1: sitcom from this, she had a comedy jobs. I didn't

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Speaker 1: because I don't want anybody to thank you because you're attractive,

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Speaker 1: you know, because people do thank you. Do that you

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01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 1: know she's a cute. They won't allow you know your

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Speaker 1: talent to shine, talk about getting that type that happens

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Speaker 1: all the time. And because I've been fortunate to be

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Speaker 1: a part of your career early on, watching grow, you know,

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Speaker 1: telling the world about you and watching your smile, I

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01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:30,920
Speaker 1: went Jakie promoters, right. I think I'm very distinctive looking

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Speaker 1: in a way because people I don't care, even now

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Speaker 1: with the whole mask thing. If they see this, they

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Speaker 1: see my eyes and know my eyes, and then if

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Speaker 1: I have no mask, it's like, oh my god, I

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Speaker 1: know your lips and I know this space, and it's like,

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Speaker 1: I guess I'm recognizable, which I love. So it's like

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Speaker 1: I'm distinctive. And all the parts that I've gotten have

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Speaker 1: been various roles, of course, but in the same sense,

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Speaker 1: it's all still It's a part of who I am,

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01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 1: every character that I've taken on, and especially this one currently,

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Speaker 1: it's like it's one of the most, you know, the

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Speaker 1: most exciting particts that I've been a part of, just

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Speaker 1: because of the dynamic I've had so long with Jimmie Fox,

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Kite and of course now with David Allen Grier.

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Speaker 1: Watching this family comedy is just gonna bring such a

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01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,160
Speaker 1: warm you know, feeling to you and then we need

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01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,320
Speaker 1: it right now during a pandemic. Who all doesn't need

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01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 1: a comedy to laugh at right? Absolutely? And the reason

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01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 1: I like it because Netflix is going into that African

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Speaker 1: American family comedy that's right, and they're going that way.

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Speaker 1: And I just knew when I started getting a bunch

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01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: of calls they're like, oh my god, I watch you

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01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 1: in the Parkers, and I'm like, okay, it always is

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Speaker 1: on TV, but Netflix got the Parkers, they got girlfriends,

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Speaker 1: they got all these shows one on one that we

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01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,120
Speaker 1: used to watch on UPN that are now on the

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01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,840
Speaker 1: streaming service. And it's just a beautiful blessing to see

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01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:41,320
Speaker 1: how big these comedies they took off. And Netflix was like,

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01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, black comedies are exactly what people want

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01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 1: to see, and we've already shot our show and now

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01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: follow along and and and follow that pattern. They're they're

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01:12:49,479 --> 01:12:53,479
Speaker 1: really just truly they've been mindful of just how much

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01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:55,800
Speaker 1: people want to see all types of family because you

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01:12:55,880 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 1: can watch Bollywood on there, you can watch you know,

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01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: Korean movies, you could watch anything on there, and their

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01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 1: platform is so diverse and it's so inclusive, and that's

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Speaker 1: why I love that we're there. We're a black family,

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01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 1: but anybody can watch this show and relate to the

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01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:10,280
Speaker 1: homeboy that walks in trying to go in your kitchen

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01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 1: getting some of your stuff, for the dad who lives

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Speaker 1: in the backhouse, who who might have been going through

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01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,320
Speaker 1: hard times, or the sister who's just living with her

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01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: brother trying to you know, be the best sister she

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01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,160
Speaker 1: could be while also being in the corporate world. We're

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01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:25,000
Speaker 1: all relatable, just in different ways, and everyone can watch

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01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,519
Speaker 1: it and feel a piece of them or someone they

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01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,919
Speaker 1: know in this show. You know, I'm just come in Netflix.

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01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of the network streaming network because one thing,

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01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: it's airs in a hundred and nanny countries. And the

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01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,160
Speaker 1: reason I say that, you know, I've written down Sister, Sister,

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01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 1: I've written on Jamie Fox Show, I've written on the

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01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:44,879
Speaker 1: parents who And we've always been categorized as a black sitcom.

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01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 1: And guess what we were regulated either to low watted

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01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 1: stations or non major network station and so now and

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01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 1: even in black movies, you know, we were premier. Will

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01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:59,600
Speaker 1: never go international on Netflix. You you're growing up international

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01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 1: fans age, portion come on now, just just like but

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01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,760
Speaker 1: think about what we did the Parkers. It was up N.

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01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 1: There was one network for all of our shows one right,

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01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,920
Speaker 1: it was Girlfriends one on one, the Parkers. You just

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01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: tune into that network. Now you can watch you know,

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01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,240
Speaker 1: Shauna Rhymes TV shows and you see a Kerry Washington,

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01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: you see a Viola DATABC. You know it's it's just

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01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:25,320
Speaker 1: it's no longer one of us. I said, I used

1339
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 1: to be me the talking black girl on on one

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01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 1: show is the only one. I'm like, Now you're not.

1341
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 1: You're not the token black on this one that you know. Okay,

1342
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 1: now here's my history. You know, I was a co

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01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: executive producer to the Jamie Foxx show that was on

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01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 1: the w B Busney and was hired me okay and

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01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: uh and s before I went over to the Caucus.

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01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,360
Speaker 1: That's why I met you. So that's a blessing in it.

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01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:51,120
Speaker 1: I have, I have a twofold relationship with you with

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01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 1: Jamie so perfect and then kidding winning half. I know

1349
01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 1: him from working on just various sitcom when he was

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01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: cutting his teeth as a direct and so so that's

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01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:04,679
Speaker 1: the beauty of it. I'm sure, I'm sure so many

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01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 1: names over there. Stacy Evans. I'm sure she's over there

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01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:11,600
Speaker 1: as well. That's my girl that so many people on

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01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:15,480
Speaker 1: The Parkers I love Stave, Stacy Evans, Bentley, Ken Whittingham.

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01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:17,840
Speaker 1: It was really a family dynamic because I've worked with

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Speaker 1: Bentley on other projects. Of course, Stacy, you know with

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01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,559
Speaker 1: The Parkers, who is not a part of this, but

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01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:25,719
Speaker 1: she's so supportive and so amazing. And David Allen Greer

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01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 1: works with Jamie Fox. I've known Jamie for ten years.

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01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 1: I've known Jonathan Kite for many years. It's all just

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01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 1: a circle. And when you watch us on camera, I

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01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:35,559
Speaker 1: definitely feel like you you feel that because it's like

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01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 1: who doesn't go to Jamie Fox's house and and hang

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01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:41,760
Speaker 1: out and go to parties that he has, and you

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01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 1: kind of tell people his parties are iconic. That you

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01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:45,599
Speaker 1: haven't seen each other in a while, you can always

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01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: see each other. Jamie Fox through so many parties. He

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01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 1: had a swinging gate. It just fell off. That's that's

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01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 1: how many parties he through. He just leading gate open.

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01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,680
Speaker 1: They just they just fell on the ground. They just

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Speaker 1: That's how many parties even throwing. But this this is

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Speaker 1: the recordy on Netflix. It's called Dad Stopping bar embarrassing me. Yeah,

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01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: I know Jamie. He goes off scripts sometimes he wants

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Speaker 1: to improv. I know him well. So how do you

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01:16:10,560 --> 01:16:14,519
Speaker 1: react to this amazingly gifted young man who goes off

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01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 1: script but continues to move to comedy forward and you

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01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:20,000
Speaker 1: have to make a little small adjustments to not bust

1378
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,280
Speaker 1: out laughing, not bust out laughing and holding the script

1379
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 1: content moving forward. Talk about the experience of working with

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Speaker 1: this brilliant young man. It is truly the definition of

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01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,960
Speaker 1: a master at work. He's a genius. I find him

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01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,120
Speaker 1: to be one of the most people, the most successful

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01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 1: people and talented people I've ever met. I mean, he sings,

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01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: he writes, he produces, he directs, he plays music, he's

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01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 1: a comedian, he's a dramatic actor. There's nothing he can't do.

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01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: So when you're on set with him and he deviates

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01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 1: from the script, you gotta roll with the punches because

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01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 1: that might be a better version of what was written there. Right,

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01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 1: And so many times in the script and in the

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01:16:56,439 --> 01:16:59,160
Speaker 1: show that you're gonna see, there's a lot of moments

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01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 1: that they left in there that were completely organic that

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01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 1: Jamie did that I did that. David Allen Brier did that,

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01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,479
Speaker 1: Jonathan did that, Kylie Drew did that got kept in

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01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 1: because it was just organically in the moment and someone's

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01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:11,439
Speaker 1: reaction was just perfect on the spot for a new

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01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: thing that they actually hit you with because your reaction

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01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,240
Speaker 1: was different. Because you know, in acting, where you do takes,

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01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:19,120
Speaker 1: you do take three or four, sometimes five times. On

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01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 1: certain shows, you might hit that one line that's different

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01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 1: than what you thought it was gonna be in your

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01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 1: whole reaction chain is and that's the money. So dealing

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01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 1: with Jamie is just dealing with the master knowing how

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01:17:29,439 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 1: to you know, just be right next to him and

1404
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 1: just go right into the to the mix of it.

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01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:37,080
Speaker 1: And I find him just to be so so incredible

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01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 1: at that that how do you not get lessons for

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01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: someone who is so good at it? Like, I don't

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01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 1: find anyone more funny than him, but also more diverse

1409
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 1: than him in the world of winning a Grammy or

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01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:50,919
Speaker 1: winning you know, like an Oscar and the recording amazing albums,

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01:17:50,920 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: like his voice is like to dive for so being

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01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 1: next to him, as his sisters like is unbelievable. You know,

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01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,080
Speaker 1: just listen to your enthusiasm and first of all, it

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01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 1: shows on the screen and it shows in Your Good

1415
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,880
Speaker 1: Now that the portrayal of the women in the show. Uh.

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01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:09,280
Speaker 1: I love Heather's character. She plays Stacy. She runs the company,

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01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:11,240
Speaker 1: and she's kind of like the if I'm reading this right,

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01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 1: she's divorce of reason within the show. Yes, without question, Yes,

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01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: talk about her. Oh yeah, Stacy is actually incredible because

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01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,639
Speaker 1: she is you know, she's at this point, she's running

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01:18:25,640 --> 01:18:28,599
Speaker 1: the company. She's trying to let Brian know certain things

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01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,160
Speaker 1: that he might have to do to make sure this

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01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 1: company become successful. It's already successful, but if he wants

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01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:37,719
Speaker 1: to stay in that category of success and in building

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01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:41,679
Speaker 1: and growing into a different dimension as a company, listen

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01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: to her and understand what I'm telling you you need

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01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,240
Speaker 1: to do. But of course Brian is hardheaded, so Brian

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01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like anything need adjustments that he's already done well.

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01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,040
Speaker 1: And I come in because I'm like, listen, I come

1430
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:53,720
Speaker 1: from the corporate world. You might want to listen to

1431
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 1: me here or there, and we can both give you

1432
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 1: advice because you don't know at all. And I like

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01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 1: when he does actually for certain advice and when he

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01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:05,679
Speaker 1: listens to us sometimes and then when he doesn't listen

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01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:07,280
Speaker 1: to us. It's kind of like, oh, well, we told

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01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: you so, you know, we can just say that she

1437
01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: should have listened to the women. You know. It was

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01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:14,479
Speaker 1: really interesting about watching his career and watching the original

1439
01:19:14,560 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 1: hit sitcom that he had on called The Jamie Foxx Show.

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01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,880
Speaker 1: This seems like a grown version of that show because

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01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 1: he was a single guy, you know, worked at the hotel,

1442
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 1: and now he's business owner and he has parent responsibilities

1443
01:19:29,680 --> 01:19:32,400
Speaker 1: and so he has a system who who Who's who

1444
01:19:32,439 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 1: helps keep him straight, you know, and and the things

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01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: I love about the show this is it's a black show.

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01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: And I say that in a complimentary way because it

1447
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 1: talks about black values and her important These black values resonate.

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01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: And also it's really cool something to storylize that. And

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01:19:49,080 --> 01:19:51,240
Speaker 1: I would tell you this portion, you know, if I

1450
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 1: wasn't laughing, I was smiling the whole time I was

1451
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 1: watching this Nice you did you get that like feeling

1452
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 1: of like watching a family and saying, wow, the makes

1453
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 1: me feel good. And even the moments where you're like, no,

1454
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: he didn't know, she didn't You're like, oh that was though,

1455
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: Like you feel like every episode you might have learned

1456
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:10,920
Speaker 1: something about you know, one of the characters that you

1457
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:12,760
Speaker 1: didn't know before, but you also feel like you know

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01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:16,400
Speaker 1: someone that you can relate to. That exactly is a

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01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,599
Speaker 1: reflection of the person that you're seeing on screen, right absolutely,

1460
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: And that's what I'm saying, is like, you know because

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01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,479
Speaker 1: you know after the third because you know, I come

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01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 1: in because I know Jamie, and I came in with

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01:20:26,880 --> 01:20:29,080
Speaker 1: an open mind, because you know, I don't read any

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01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 1: of the information. I know David Alagre as a fool. Okay,

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01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 1: some fool, it's gonna come out. It's like, but good

1466
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 1: fool is this because it's gonna be funny. I know

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01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: Jamie cars is gonna break the third fourth fifth wall.

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01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,800
Speaker 1: And in this show, he talks to you. That's a

1469
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 1: really cool thing. He talks to you, so be prepared.

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01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,719
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm giving away anything, but he talks

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Speaker 1: to the audience, which is a really cool thing. And

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Speaker 1: even even even David al Grip the Busses said won't

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01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: talk to the audience. It's it's relatable. I like to

1474
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 1: say that. It kind of minds me of even like

1475
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 1: the Bernie Max show. Bernie Mac was father on the show.

1476
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, And he had those moments

1477
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: where he's engaging with the crowd because it's like sometimes

1478
01:21:08,240 --> 01:21:10,800
Speaker 1: you gotta say self, let me talk to you for

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01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:13,320
Speaker 1: a second. So whether somebody else is listening or on

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01:21:13,360 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: the other end of it, he's talking to himself and

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01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 1: talking and thinking out loud, you know, even though the

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01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 1: you know, the the audience is understanding the reflection that

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01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:25,160
Speaker 1: they're seeing, it's still him talking through. Okay, what scenario,

1484
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:26,920
Speaker 1: this could go back, this could go right, what do

1485
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 1: I do? And then just going with it. And then

1486
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 1: of course we all have moments where we make the

1487
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 1: wrong decisions, but we're all there to pick each other

1488
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 1: up even in between those moments. Now, he's an interesting

1489
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 1: thing about it, the dynamics of the characters. You know,

1490
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 1: the daughter. Let's talking about their daughter, you know, the daughter.

1491
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: It is not a real life version of his real daughter.

1492
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 1: But it's a lucidating to the base. There's a Luci

1493
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 1: base series because he was an actual entertainer in real life.

1494
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 1: It wasn't a business own in real life. So would

1495
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,600
Speaker 1: you sit taking We all want to work, you know,

1496
01:21:56,640 --> 01:22:00,679
Speaker 1: but we also opportunity to shine, the opportunity to show

1497
01:22:00,720 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: your singing. In this series did that. Did they excite you?

1498
01:22:05,560 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it excited me because I felt like

1499
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 1: that was that was absolutely Jamie's doing. And I was

1500
01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: just telling someone the other day and you can see

1501
01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:15,360
Speaker 1: this on Instagram and so many people have videos of it,

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01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,360
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of months ago, and actually not

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01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:18,600
Speaker 1: even a couple of months ago. At this point, was

1504
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: like a year and a half ago, even before we

1505
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:21,600
Speaker 1: did the show, before I even knew I was going

1506
01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:22,920
Speaker 1: to be a part of the show, Jamie had one

1507
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:24,600
Speaker 1: of those big house parties at the band in the

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01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: middle of his living room and all of a sudden,

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01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,680
Speaker 1: Jamie was like, you know, played this song. So they

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01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 1: started playing No Diggity the band. It's like, don't, don't, don't, no,

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01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: no, no no, They started playing this song. So next thing,

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01:22:35,320 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 1: you know, all of his friends, all his background singers

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01:22:37,640 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: and jamming this song. Jamie says, I got a thousand

1514
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 1: dollars from whoever knows the rap first the Queen Pen's

1515
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:46,719
Speaker 1: part or No Dignity, And I'm like, wait a minute,

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01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm in my head like, yo, look I know I

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01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: got this. So I tapped him. I'm like, my got it,

1518
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: and he's like, where your Cooma ladies and gentlemen wh're

1519
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: Shakoleman says that Jamie, I mean, she says that she

1520
01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: knows the Queen pen Birds. Next, you know, the band

1521
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,639
Speaker 1: kind of took you down a little, so I started living.

1522
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:04,840
Speaker 1: At first, I'm singing, so he's taking my all. She's

1523
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,400
Speaker 1: probably gonna start singing. I hit it with a rat

1524
01:23:07,560 --> 01:23:11,960
Speaker 1: verse and I'm singing in between. The whole party loses it,

1525
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:14,599
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, I guess he's He's

1526
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 1: all everybody said, hey, uh, going all this kind of

1527
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 1: stuff in the middle of his house. Two months later,

1528
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: I get the call about the show. Of course I auditioned,

1529
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:27,280
Speaker 1: but it was just one audition, and then I end

1530
01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,120
Speaker 1: up getting the role. And then I'm seeing in one

1531
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,479
Speaker 1: of the episodes that I'm singing. Jamie was like, oh no,

1532
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: we had to let you say, like, oh no, no, no,

1533
01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:34,600
Speaker 1: we made sure we had to do that because like,

1534
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,800
Speaker 1: you're too talented. We gotta put that in so praying that.

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01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,640
Speaker 1: Of course, you know, if all goes well and we

1536
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 1: do end up getting blessed with more seasons, that we're

1537
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:44,080
Speaker 1: going to really tap into a lot more of that stuff.

1538
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 1: Because who doesn't love Jamie Fox breaking into song. He's

1539
01:23:47,360 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: a master vocalist. So just to know that your sibling

1540
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 1: does the same thing, that's what mean. My own brother

1541
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: do but go into song all the time. And he's

1542
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,320
Speaker 1: Jamie's age, and he also sings and was a former athlete.

1543
01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 1: So I feel like I was perfect for this because

1544
01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:01,720
Speaker 1: the similarities between them and him, well, you know, the

1545
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,800
Speaker 1: beauty of watching the talent of the first First, all

1546
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:07,800
Speaker 1: my compliments are coming from a real source. Okay, yes,

1547
01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 1: you know everybody, so we know it's coming from a

1548
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:13,240
Speaker 1: place of understanding of who we are individually, and then

1549
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 1: seeing it's I appreciated, and it just seeing when you're

1550
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 1: going through that, you know, on the boat, on that

1551
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 1: boat in that video, you know. Okay, it was a

1552
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:25,800
Speaker 1: funny point. I remember way back and when I was

1553
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 1: when I was co executive US and Jamie. He hasn't changed.

1554
01:24:28,479 --> 01:24:30,719
Speaker 1: We should do it. He used to host a amateur

1555
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 1: night or like a karaoke knight way back in the

1556
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: day and when yeah, it was it was on Sunset,

1557
01:24:38,240 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 1: I can't remember the name. It was on Sunset and

1558
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 1: when you came in there and did a carryokes and

1559
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:48,360
Speaker 1: brought it down. So he has not changed. He's still brilliant.

1560
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:52,080
Speaker 1: You've been a part of this. It wraps it all together,

1561
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 1: David all I gotta let you tell us about working

1562
01:24:54,680 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 1: with that food, David Ali Grid. Oh my gosh. Well

1563
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,479
Speaker 1: to me automatically, when I heard David and Greer was

1564
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:02,760
Speaker 1: a part of it, I said, Jamie Fox and David

1565
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:06,439
Speaker 1: Allan Greer reuniting on camera. Oh my god, is what

1566
01:25:06,479 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 1: I said. Because I'm like, who didn't watch The Living

1567
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 1: Color and grow up watching their characters, thinking these men

1568
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:14,519
Speaker 1: are just incredibly talented. And then when you were around

1569
01:25:14,600 --> 01:25:16,960
Speaker 1: Jamie the first day, like on set, Jamie was like,

1570
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,320
Speaker 1: you guys don't understand. I wasn't the funniest person on

1571
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 1: the show. David Allen Greer was the funniest person on

1572
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:23,520
Speaker 1: the show, and I was trying to be like him

1573
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: and David Alan Grierson. They're talking and they're just really

1574
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 1: going back and forth about their stories and when the

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01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: camera rolls. David Allen Greer is a who like he

1576
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 1: We always talk about his wardrobe every day he comes

1577
01:25:35,080 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 1: in his overalls to set. He's he's like a farmer.

1578
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 1: He dresses like the farmer guy come on set, and

1579
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 1: when it's time to play David Annon Grier turns it

1580
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:46,599
Speaker 1: all the way on and when you're off camera he's talking.

1581
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean from he's just brilliant as as an artist

1582
01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 1: and an individual. I mean, he's on Broadway, he's done movies,

1583
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 1: he's done television. From the car michaels like, he's brilliant

1584
01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:58,320
Speaker 1: when it comes to this art, art form in general.

1585
01:25:58,360 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 1: But putting them together now as father and son, it's

1586
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:04,320
Speaker 1: something that is just mind going for people to really

1587
01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:07,720
Speaker 1: watch them after all this time together. And he's comedically

1588
01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:10,920
Speaker 1: just funny, just walking in somewhere, he walks in the

1589
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 1: way his stature is and this beard that he has,

1590
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 1: I'm sure, absolutely it's amazing. It's it's amazing that it's

1591
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,519
Speaker 1: beautiful thing. That's right. We're talking about Netflix new Jamie

1592
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 1: Fox series Dad Stopping season one. All I gotta say

1593
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,479
Speaker 1: is is I'm a I'm a I'm a hard critic,

1594
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 1: former stand up so I look everything. I'm a writer.

1595
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 1: I got friends on me. I got looking from the perspective.

1596
01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 1: They're not my friends, you guys, you guys are delivering it.

1597
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:41,760
Speaker 1: I make sure you have been watching time because on

1598
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 1: Netflix you can sit there just like I did last

1599
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: night I went from the episode to an episode, the

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01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 1: episode episode episode. Did you watch? You watched the whole thing? Absolutely? Absolutely?

1601
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:52,679
Speaker 1: You know they tell you not to doing this spawler.

1602
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 1: They say, spoilers to a void. So I'm not gonna

1603
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,840
Speaker 1: mentioning anything episode. Netflix. Ain't cutting my butt. Netflix Star,

1604
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:00,560
Speaker 1: You're not gonna give away the spoilers. You watch the

1605
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 1: top to bottom on a journey, right, It's a journey.

1606
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 1: And that's why it's a real black experience. It's a

1607
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 1: black experience because Bidley has the ability to write real

1608
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:14,040
Speaker 1: storylines in a comedic fashion, and because Dave Jamie Fox

1609
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:16,400
Speaker 1: doesn't run from that either. So it's a story. A

1610
01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 1: lot of things that are in this that are really

1611
01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:23,559
Speaker 1: uh that that plays out in our media airways today.

1612
01:27:23,920 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 1: It is told and plays out on this show. And

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01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 1: you're you're fantastic. If we have if we go back

1614
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: to having a live audience, which of course we couldn't

1615
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 1: go to COVID, you gotta come and hang out and

1616
01:27:35,880 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 1: you know, this rock with us, because I mean, look

1617
01:27:37,960 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 1: at how crazy it is for all of us to

1618
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 1: be on the show, and you have every interaction with

1619
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 1: all of us individually, that would be a blessing, so

1620
01:27:45,439 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 1: praying that we get an audience season two and if

1621
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 1: we get a season two, you I'm telling you your

1622
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,719
Speaker 1: boy was smiling, laughing, smile. I told my staff this morning.

1623
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:56,120
Speaker 1: I came in and said, reached out. You looked at

1624
01:27:56,200 --> 01:28:03,120
Speaker 1: us watching the show. You know, the heckks making into work.

1625
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 1: Asked me, was Howard Dad stop em parising me on Netflix?

1626
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 1: I said, well, I smiled the whole time. I couldn't

1627
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 1: take a smile off my laugh because that is really

1628
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:18,280
Speaker 1: a testament to me, that that that you're just smiling

1629
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 1: and your face is in a positive and that's what

1630
01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 1: we need today. And Netflix is delivered an incredibly funny,

1631
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:27,320
Speaker 1: serious starting Jamie Foxx starting Porscha Coleman, your brilliant, your

1632
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,519
Speaker 1: your career is a testament to your success. And the

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01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:32,400
Speaker 1: next thing you get a commercial, rashan this how I

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01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:34,160
Speaker 1: got that next commercion, Maybe you could try with you

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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, commercial commercial, Momo, momojo, mojo that

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Speaker 1: teach you everybody can see Nay country shot, see you

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Speaker 1: a hundrd name the pretty eyes all that they're gonna

1639
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 1: know who you are. Come on, girl, Yeah, thank you

1640
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:01,120
Speaker 1: so much. I appreciate it. We will be right back

1641
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 1: with more money making conversations with your host or Sean McDonald.

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Speaker 1: If I could be you and you could be me

1643
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:10,519
Speaker 1: for just one hour, if you could find a way

1644
01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 1: to get inside each other's mind, walk a mile in

1645
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Speaker 1: my shoes, wacome mile in my shoes. Shoes. We've all

1646
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Speaker 1: felt left out, and for some that feeling lasts more

1647
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:26,000
Speaker 1: than a moment. We can change that. Learn how it

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Speaker 1: belonging begins with us dot org. Brought to you by

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Speaker 1: the Act Council. Welcome mile in machines. And we're live

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Speaker 1: here outside the Perez family home, just waiting for the

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01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 1: and there they go, almost on time. This morning, Mom

1652
01:29:43,320 --> 01:29:45,679
Speaker 1: is coming out the front door, strong with a double

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01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:48,599
Speaker 1: armed kid carry. Looks like dad has the bags. Daughter

1654
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 1: is bringing up the rear. Oh but the diaper bag

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Speaker 1: wasn't closed. Diapers and toys are everywhere. Oh but mom

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Speaker 1: And now the eldest daughter, who looks to be about

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Speaker 1: nine or ten, has secured herself in the booster seat.

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01:30:06,640 --> 01:30:10,760
Speaker 1: Tad SIPs the bad clothes and they're off, But looks

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Speaker 1: like Mom doesn't realize her coffee cup is still on

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Speaker 1: the roof of the car, and there it goes. Oh,

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Speaker 1: that's a shame that mug was a fan favorite. Don't

1663
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Speaker 1: sweat the small stuff, just nail the big stuff, like

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Speaker 1: making conversations with your host, Ra Sean McDonald. But next guest.

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Speaker 1: He's a CEO, he's an entrepreneur, and more important that

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Speaker 1: he's an industry decision maker. That's a person, a change maker.

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Speaker 1: My next guest is Xavier People's. He's a private wealth

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Speaker 1: advisor at Capital Group Private Client Services. Xavier works directly

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Speaker 1: with high net worth individuals and families to create customized

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Speaker 1: Latter Voice fifty under fifty. Today, he is the founder

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Speaker 1: of HBCU Change, focused on raising one billion dollars for

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Speaker 1: HBCUs over five years. HBCU Change as a Black owned

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Speaker 1: app that rounds your purchase to the next dollar and

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Speaker 1: donates to change to your historical Black college or university,

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Speaker 1: which is an HBCU of your choice. Please work with

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Speaker 1: the money making conversations. He didn't ever attend an hpc U,

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Speaker 1: but he's like me. I did not attend an HPCU,

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Speaker 1: but my passion and my uplift is about creating change.

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Speaker 1: Please working in the the making conversation at Xavier People's

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Speaker 1: glad to be here today. You're supporting, you're sporting to support,

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Speaker 1: You've got the hbc U, Capo man, I swear you

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Speaker 1: much and went to like fam new a boat house.

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Speaker 1: Uh Howard, Tennessee State or Jackson State, Mississippi, Valence State,

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Speaker 1: Graftly prayer for you, oh man, Texas Southern. I could

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Speaker 1: run out of names and a hundred and four of them,

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Speaker 1: but I know them all. How about you? Can we

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Speaker 1: take a can we do it like an h b

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Speaker 1: c U? Uh Tim? You know you name HBCU. I

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Speaker 1: name HBCU. Then we see you p W I attend

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Speaker 1: right out of schools. How ain't doing, sir? I'm doing awesome?

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Speaker 1: How your power you doing that? We're great, man, I'm

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Speaker 1: great because I'm talking up to an individual who's trying

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Speaker 1: to create change. You know, was was was even before

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Speaker 1: she was announced as a president vice print of the

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Speaker 1: elect by Joe Biden. You know, HBCUs came to the

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Speaker 1: forefront of acknowledgement by a lot of large donations from

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Speaker 1: a lot of wealthy people in during the pandemic. What's

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Speaker 1: your take on that? S What I'll say is the

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Speaker 1: big donations are good, and we applaud the big donations

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Speaker 1: again and again and again. And I will tell you

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Speaker 1: most schools would applaud big donations as well, but there

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Speaker 1: are a couple of things that I need to point out.

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Speaker 1: Number One, those big donations seem to go to the

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Speaker 1: same five to tend schools over and over again. And

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Speaker 1: a lot of the mid size to small size schools

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Speaker 1: that are in really need of those those donations are

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Speaker 1: and that are at the highest risk of closing, they

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Speaker 1: really never get those donations at all. So that's one

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Speaker 1: point that I want to make. Number Two, if you

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01:34:56,520 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 1: talk to those institutions that receive those big donations, oftentimes

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01:35:01,439 --> 01:35:05,600
Speaker 1: those big donations fill an immediate needs and closed an

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Speaker 1: immediate gap, and then the next year they still need

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01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:12,800
Speaker 1: those big donations to come on in again to keep

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Speaker 1: the operational budget going, to keep a school going as

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Speaker 1: a whole. And so what HBCU change is it gives

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Speaker 1: schools consistent donations on a daily basis that will be

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Speaker 1: the foundation of that school's operational budget to keep their

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Speaker 1: doors open day in and day out. That's what this

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Speaker 1: is all about. And I agree with you, you you know,

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01:35:35,200 --> 01:35:38,679
Speaker 1: but like the like the United Negro College Fund, that's

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Speaker 1: a hundred and four h HBCUs that are credited as

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Speaker 1: a three more than are unaccredited which will get you

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Speaker 1: up to a hundred is selling. Okay, But like the

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Speaker 1: knitting the crowding fund, I think it represents like thirty

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Speaker 1: seven of the HBCU schools. I know it's no more

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Speaker 1: than forty, So there's over sixty schools that are not

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Speaker 1: getting any opportunity from any donations that are made to you.

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01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:01,720
Speaker 1: Now in legal College, a lot of people don't know

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Speaker 1: that unless you go to the website. They don't publicly say, hey,

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Speaker 1: give your money, but only a few schools are gonna

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Speaker 1: get it. And this is about trying to uh spread

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Speaker 1: the wealth, as we all talked about within the black community,

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01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:15,360
Speaker 1: trying to give everybody a shot to being successful. But

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Speaker 1: what brought this concept to you? But before we even

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Speaker 1: get to that, let's talk about your background. Okay. Now,

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Speaker 1: you went to undergraduate I think you said, the University

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Speaker 1: of West Georgia, Yes, and then undergraduate undergra University of

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Speaker 1: West Georgia, um Born and ready East here in the

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Speaker 1: city of Atlanta. So as you can imagine with the

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Speaker 1: historic HBCUs here in Atlanta, they're they're very close and

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Speaker 1: proximity to me. But then more importantly, they're very near

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Speaker 1: and dear to my heart. UM, my dad he attended

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01:36:45,439 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 1: Savantah State University, my wife attended Spellman, My sister and

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01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,679
Speaker 1: law attended Spellman. And so I'm surrounded by HBCU grads

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Speaker 1: day in and day out. Okay, so you're a spellman

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Speaker 1: then you know, I know they're looking at you. Savannah State,

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Speaker 1: m Mr. I know you got a scholarship. Mr. Athlete.

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Speaker 1: You know went on down and they played little football.

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Speaker 1: But then they came and you went to cal. Now

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Speaker 1: now I'm having fought with this because see I went

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01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 1: to the University of Houston, and I and the many

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Speaker 1: campaigns with Stephen A. Smith got to be the UH

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Speaker 1: brand ambassador for hbc U week for Ashley Christopher Christopher's Foundation.

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Speaker 1: We've done two big events on ESPN where we raised

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Speaker 1: UH what students have been awarded over the loved million

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Speaker 1: dollars and scholarships. Over two thousand have been registered on

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Speaker 1: the spot. So it's about passion, it's about belief. It's

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Speaker 1: not about this interview is more about letting every everybody

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01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 1: know that if you didn't go, don't don't feel there's

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Speaker 1: a need not to be a part of change, a

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Speaker 1: part of opportunity. That's what this interview is about, because

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Speaker 1: you and I both know we never attended that. We

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01:37:47,439 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 1: varied from me. Hey, I went to Universe Houston, Texas.

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01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:51,800
Speaker 1: Southern was in walking distance right down the street in

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Speaker 1: the Third War, Preview and then was forty five miles

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Speaker 1: north of me, and so my schools when my my

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01:37:58,720 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 1: senior class, half my in your class went to Preview. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and so, so I'm very familiar with the HBCU brand,

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01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:06,519
Speaker 1: but at the time that wasn't I wouldn't even say

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01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:09,920
Speaker 1: I went to Southern University. I went to their freshman

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01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:13,799
Speaker 1: class induction ceremonies to be ad managed to be admitted

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Speaker 1: as a freshman and bad rouge. So I I experienced it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't close on it, but doesn't mean I can't

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Speaker 1: continue to do my part to support it. And that's

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Speaker 1: really what's driving you. Correct absolutely, because at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, when when I was coming out of

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Speaker 1: high school, I actually wanted to go to more House,

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01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:32,200
Speaker 1: but I couldn't afford to go to more House, and so,

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Speaker 1: um there weren't any scholarships or anything like that that

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Speaker 1: I could find at that time that made it affordable

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Speaker 1: and made financial sense for me to go to more House.

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Speaker 1: But obviously athletics played a part into what drove me

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Speaker 1: to another school, But I think if those financial opportunities

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Speaker 1: were there, I would have gone to more House. So

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Speaker 1: that's one thing. I know. You asked another question earlier

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Speaker 1: about my background and kind of how that relates to

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Speaker 1: change and how we got here today. Well, the way

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Speaker 1: this actually started was my company, Capital Group, largest active

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Speaker 1: money manager in the world, and we managed literally billions

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Speaker 1: of dollars for institutions of higher learning, their endowments and foundation.

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Speaker 1: And so We're sitting in a conference room one day

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Speaker 1: and I just asked a simple question. I said, how

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Speaker 1: many historically black colleges and universities endowments do we manage

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Speaker 1: because they can truly benefit from the relationships, the resources,

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Speaker 1: and the research that we provide these other institutions of

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Speaker 1: higher learning. And to my surprise, the answer to zero.

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Speaker 1: So I got on a plane went all over the

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Speaker 1: country just to talk to HBCUs about who we are,

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Speaker 1: what we could do for him, how we can truly

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Speaker 1: help them, and they all stopped me in my tracks

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01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 1: and said this. They say, Hey, the research, the resources

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Speaker 1: that you can provide, that's great, but we have an

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Speaker 1: issue getting out our alumni to consistently give back to

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01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,640
Speaker 1: the institution, and we can solve for that, then we

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Speaker 1: can take advantage of this stuff that you're talking about today.

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01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:57,840
Speaker 1: So I came home and it quickly went from my

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Speaker 1: daytime job to a passion of mine. I said, let

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Speaker 1: me figure out how it can help these schools out,

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01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 1: because they really need some help. I sent out a

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Speaker 1: survey to five thousand HBC alum and I asked two

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Speaker 1: simple questions, why don't you give back to your school?

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01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:12,360
Speaker 1: Why don't you give back to your school on a

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01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:15,599
Speaker 1: consistent basis? And then, so my surprise, the number one

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01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 1: answer and that survey was we don't give back because

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Speaker 1: we've never been asked, followed by we don't give back

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01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 1: because we don't believe that we can give an amount

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01:40:23,439 --> 01:40:25,800
Speaker 1: that would have an impact on the school. And going

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01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,680
Speaker 1: back to your your first question, I would like to

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01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:31,679
Speaker 1: say that you know, we hear about these big mega

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Speaker 1: millionaires and billionaires right in these huge checks to HBC.

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Speaker 1: Used I tend believe I tend to believe that that

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Speaker 1: has a double ed sword and it plays on the

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Speaker 1: psyche of the average alumni and the average supporter of

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Speaker 1: an HBCU, and they believe that if they're not cutting

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Speaker 1: a million dollar check or even the thousand dollar check

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Speaker 1: that there are five, ten, or twenty dollars a month,

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Speaker 1: isn't having an impact on the school. And so what

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01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:58,720
Speaker 1: hbc you change wants to let everyone know that if

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Speaker 1: we're all giving change on a monthly basis or HBCU,

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Speaker 1: those sins as up to dollars, those dollars adds up

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Speaker 1: to millions, and they can have a tremendous impact on

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Speaker 1: each historically black college and university in this country. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's really interesting how you're taking in and just bring

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01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 1: up point out another known HBCU person who's out there

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Speaker 1: shining a bright lifes Chris Paul and be All Star

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01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:24,080
Speaker 1: Chris Paul. He's doing in fact, he's doing a joint

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01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 1: venture with Stephen A. Smith that's airing on ESPN Plus

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01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:32,759
Speaker 1: called why not Us about their North Carolina Central State University.

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01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,960
Speaker 1: North Carolina Central University. They called me state Bore. They

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01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:39,600
Speaker 1: come to get me for that. North Carolina Central University's

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01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:43,679
Speaker 1: rise to the run on the March Madness basketball season,

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01:41:44,040 --> 01:41:46,000
Speaker 1: which COVID really messed up. But that makes for us

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Speaker 1: a good story in this series is on now ESPN Plus.

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Speaker 1: Now when I when I look at you, and then

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Speaker 1: I look at the whole prospect of you know, donations,

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01:41:53,800 --> 01:41:56,960
Speaker 1: because you you graduate from cal I Graduate Universe Uses,

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01:41:57,000 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 1: I knew exactly what they're talking about. They constantly asked

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01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:03,080
Speaker 1: me for money. They constantly asked me to speak. They

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01:42:03,120 --> 01:42:05,439
Speaker 1: constantly asked me so much that I eventually wrote a

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Speaker 1: check for two h fifty dollars okay, for an endowar.

1886
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:11,639
Speaker 1: So I there has to be a plan in place,

1887
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:14,120
Speaker 1: and it has to be people built it. I remember,

1888
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:16,400
Speaker 1: I remember the president of my school said she had

1889
01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:18,719
Speaker 1: a billion dollar campaign she wanted to be in place.

1890
01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:21,600
Speaker 1: She said she wanted to bring a medical school to

1891
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 1: the campus University Houston. That was Remember she approached me

1892
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,920
Speaker 1: in twenty twelve because I was doing to Steve Harvey

1893
01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:30,400
Speaker 1: talk show in Chicago, and I hosted an event for

1894
01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:34,320
Speaker 1: her when she was in Chicago. And guess what. Fast forward,

1895
01:42:34,720 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 1: there's a she's passed a billion dollar fundraising mark. She

1896
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:41,000
Speaker 1: has a we have a medical school on the campus

1897
01:42:41,000 --> 01:42:44,280
Speaker 1: of the University Houston. That is absolutely true. You have

1898
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:46,519
Speaker 1: to have a plan in place. What I don't want

1899
01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:48,439
Speaker 1: people to do is act like black people don't want

1900
01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:50,920
Speaker 1: to give, Black people don't want to support. How are

1901
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 1: you asking and we're playing long term, not some short term,

1902
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:57,640
Speaker 1: long term nurturing plan that you have in place to

1903
01:42:57,800 --> 01:42:59,880
Speaker 1: get get Black people to give or donate on the

1904
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:04,240
Speaker 1: of the basis, what are your thoughts? So, um, it's funny.

1905
01:43:05,040 --> 01:43:08,759
Speaker 1: I received a call from Princeton not too long ago,

1906
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:13,679
Speaker 1: and they've seen the publicity that we've received HBC Change

1907
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:16,680
Speaker 1: and they just wanted to kind of talk to us

1908
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:20,519
Speaker 1: about what we're doing and how we're galvanizing so many

1909
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:24,600
Speaker 1: people to download a negative and in credit card and

1910
01:43:24,640 --> 01:43:28,280
Speaker 1: give change back to historical black colleges and universities. But

1911
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:30,599
Speaker 1: the thing that struck out stuck out to me the

1912
01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 1: most during that conversation, I just asked the question. I said,

1913
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:35,960
Speaker 1: how many people do you have in your your office

1914
01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:40,200
Speaker 1: of Advancement, which is typically in charge of raising money

1915
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:42,439
Speaker 1: for the school. They told me that they had a

1916
01:43:42,520 --> 01:43:46,360
Speaker 1: hundred and forty nine individuals that work in that department

1917
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:50,880
Speaker 1: that are solely focused on raising money for the endowment

1918
01:43:51,080 --> 01:43:55,599
Speaker 1: and the operation of that school. Typically at historically black

1919
01:43:55,600 --> 01:44:00,280
Speaker 1: college and university they have one of two people. And

1920
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:02,880
Speaker 1: so what we are. What we need to do is

1921
01:44:02,960 --> 01:44:07,799
Speaker 1: immediately is and I'm sure University of Houston they probably

1922
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:11,719
Speaker 1: have probably was a hundred people who are in charge

1923
01:44:11,720 --> 01:44:13,760
Speaker 1: of that as well. And so we need to be

1924
01:44:13,840 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 1: able to raise money for this these historical black colleges

1925
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:20,240
Speaker 1: and universities so they can build out their infrastructure and

1926
01:44:20,240 --> 01:44:24,080
Speaker 1: the apparatus to actually target and go after these individuals

1927
01:44:24,120 --> 01:44:26,800
Speaker 1: to raise money. Another thing that we're doing here at

1928
01:44:26,880 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 1: HBCU Change is we're becoming an extension of the school

1929
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:33,639
Speaker 1: by helping these schools to organize data. You can't raise

1930
01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 1: money if you don't have good data on your alumni

1931
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 1: and your supporters and you know where are these individual

1932
01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:43,240
Speaker 1: individuals geographically loticated? Do you have good email addresses and

1933
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:46,280
Speaker 1: good phone numbers on these individuals to contact them, to

1934
01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:49,200
Speaker 1: ask them for money and to organize to raise money.

1935
01:44:49,479 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 1: And so what we're creating is a dashboard and a

1936
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:56,160
Speaker 1: database for each HBCU so they can have the found

1937
01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:00,000
Speaker 1: the foundational infrastructure to build it out and to raise

1938
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 1: it's more money for their school. In the hall, now

1939
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,439
Speaker 1: here's here's here's the key conversation and all this Okay,

1940
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:07,479
Speaker 1: you told me the background. Private Wealth devisitors, one of

1941
01:45:07,520 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 1: the largest Capital Group Private Client Services got that. Then

1942
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:13,679
Speaker 1: you say, hey, I went around several colleges and find

1943
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 1: out what's going on. They say, they are this app

1944
01:45:17,479 --> 01:45:20,280
Speaker 1: that was designed. Is it your app? Or is it

1945
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:24,320
Speaker 1: tied to Capital Group Private Client Services or how did

1946
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 1: that come out? How did the development of that app

1947
01:45:26,320 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 1: come about? And what makes it secure? Because that's when

1948
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:31,160
Speaker 1: people always thought, you know, I don't you know you

1949
01:45:31,240 --> 01:45:34,160
Speaker 1: got the Russians attack and they're talking about faith faith voting.

1950
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:36,880
Speaker 1: You know, it's so much distrust some types of technology

1951
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:39,880
Speaker 1: that you when you hear something new like this that's positive,

1952
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,200
Speaker 1: how do you work yourself through that process? But tell

1953
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:47,320
Speaker 1: us how all got started from a technical standpoint, absolutely so, No,

1954
01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:49,719
Speaker 1: this app does not have anything to do with Capital

1955
01:45:49,760 --> 01:45:53,000
Speaker 1: Group at all. This is solely um an app that

1956
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:56,120
Speaker 1: bootstraffed and finance out of my pocket and I have

1957
01:45:56,200 --> 01:45:59,719
Speaker 1: a great team of eight individuals around me who helped

1958
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:03,240
Speaker 1: to build out this app. Shout out to my god

1959
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 1: Troy Wilson, who is the actual developer of this app. Now,

1960
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:10,960
Speaker 1: when it comes to security, we have two of the

1961
01:46:11,000 --> 01:46:14,360
Speaker 1: most secure platforms out there, the same platforms that you

1962
01:46:14,479 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 1: use for your online banking. We use for HBCU change

1963
01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:20,439
Speaker 1: as well, and that is Plaid and Stripe and so

1964
01:46:20,680 --> 01:46:23,960
Speaker 1: Plat and Strike are the most secure platforms out there

1965
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:29,640
Speaker 1: when it comes to cyber cybersecurity, particularly in financial technology.

1966
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:33,040
Speaker 1: And our app is just secure as your online making.

1967
01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:35,599
Speaker 1: That's how we pretty much describe it when we're talking

1968
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:38,639
Speaker 1: to the end us, right, and that's important to end user.

1969
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:42,679
Speaker 1: So so one uses this. So now we're getting into

1970
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:45,639
Speaker 1: the tech now the application part, because you're saying that

1971
01:46:45,920 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 1: by using this the change, it rounds it up. You've

1972
01:46:49,000 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 1: been forty five cents. It's a rounded up to a

1973
01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:55,639
Speaker 1: dollar of assuming and that's sixty five fifty cents will

1974
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 1: be donated going to an account all to the school

1975
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 1: of your charge. How does that work there? Yeah, so

1976
01:47:02,520 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 1: great question again. You're right, you buy a couple of

1977
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:07,400
Speaker 1: coffee for three dollars and fifty cents, right, so we

1978
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:10,679
Speaker 1: round that transactions up to four dollars. That empty cents

1979
01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:14,800
Speaker 1: goes to the HBCU of your choice. So you will

1980
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:17,519
Speaker 1: go in and you will link your debit and or

1981
01:47:17,560 --> 01:47:22,240
Speaker 1: your credit card to the app, and basically every transaction

1982
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:24,960
Speaker 1: that you have, we're rounding every one of those transactions

1983
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,559
Speaker 1: up to the nearest dollar, and we're giving that change

1984
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 1: to the hbc of your choice. What we found on

1985
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:34,160
Speaker 1: that app is that the average person gives about twenty

1986
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:38,840
Speaker 1: seven dollars per month per card on the app. So

1987
01:47:38,880 --> 01:47:41,080
Speaker 1: if you have your debit card connected, based on all

1988
01:47:41,120 --> 01:47:44,200
Speaker 1: the transactions you have on a monthly basis, more than

1989
01:47:44,280 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 1: likely when you round up that change, you're gonna give

1990
01:47:46,280 --> 01:47:50,000
Speaker 1: about twenty seven dollars per month. So using Clark Atlanta

1991
01:47:50,200 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 1: as a universe as an example, Clark Atlanta has forty

1992
01:47:53,479 --> 01:47:57,760
Speaker 1: thousand alumni at Clark Atlanta University. If we will only

1993
01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:00,240
Speaker 1: get ten thousand of those individuals to sign up in

1994
01:48:00,240 --> 01:48:03,800
Speaker 1: our average, they're giving twenty seven dollars a month. That's

1995
01:48:04,280 --> 01:48:06,839
Speaker 1: three million dollars a year going to Clark Atlanta University,

1996
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 1: which ultimately has a huge impact on Clark because that's

1997
01:48:10,360 --> 01:48:14,000
Speaker 1: money that they otherwise we're not getting on an annual basis. Okay,

1998
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,720
Speaker 1: now I'm I'm speaking to Xavier. You know, he's the

1999
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:20,040
Speaker 1: developer of HBCU. Change is this app and this goal

2000
01:48:20,080 --> 01:48:23,040
Speaker 1: is to raise one billion dollars for HBCUs over five years.

2001
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:25,559
Speaker 1: So I'm really trying to I'm not I'm not trying

2002
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:26,880
Speaker 1: to grill on you. I'm just trying to see how

2003
01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:29,920
Speaker 1: works because I'm ready for it, Okay, because you know,

2004
01:48:29,960 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 1: because okay, now, because I used my credit card, I

2005
01:48:33,240 --> 01:48:36,360
Speaker 1: go in. This is using your credit card, right, yes,

2006
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:40,439
Speaker 1: I give you credit. I go into let's say loads.

2007
01:48:40,479 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 1: I went in Loads yesterday, I put my thoughts and plants.

2008
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:46,840
Speaker 1: I pay for my plants. How does they get to

2009
01:48:46,920 --> 01:48:49,800
Speaker 1: the me paying for my plants with my credit card

2010
01:48:50,040 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 1: to the app? That's that's the part that's confusing me.

2011
01:48:52,439 --> 01:48:55,639
Speaker 1: All right, good question. So what happens is you will

2012
01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:59,080
Speaker 1: do your daily transactions. Once your daily transactions that change

2013
01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:01,759
Speaker 1: from me daily trans actions, once it totals five dollars,

2014
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 1: then immediately that money goes from your your bank account

2015
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:12,719
Speaker 1: right to your school's stripe account. Okay, and from there

2016
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:16,280
Speaker 1: it starts over again. So every transaction you make, once

2017
01:49:16,320 --> 01:49:20,520
Speaker 1: those roundups total five dollars, that's when the money transfers

2018
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:25,000
Speaker 1: from your bank account to that school's stripe account. Just

2019
01:49:25,280 --> 01:49:27,040
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that I hear

2020
01:49:27,240 --> 01:49:29,800
Speaker 1: the round up, I hear where it's gonna go. My

2021
01:49:29,920 --> 01:49:33,160
Speaker 1: disconnect is becoming like when I charged the credit card

2022
01:49:33,760 --> 01:49:36,360
Speaker 1: and the app. There are two different things. Okay, how

2023
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:38,519
Speaker 1: does the app? No I made a charge? I guess

2024
01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:41,559
Speaker 1: that's the question. I apologize, good question, No, no worries.

2025
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:43,840
Speaker 1: So all right, I'm gonna back up a little bit

2026
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 1: and teck and it just a little bit better. That is,

2027
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:50,040
Speaker 1: you have let's just say you have most credit cards,

2028
01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:53,200
Speaker 1: so you have your multiple credit cards, and then you

2029
01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:56,799
Speaker 1: have your funding source, which is essentially essentially your checking account.

2030
01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:59,599
Speaker 1: So that what the app does is it looks at

2031
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:01,840
Speaker 1: the trans actions that you have on your credit card

2032
01:50:02,200 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 1: and it says, Okay, you went to Starbucks and bought

2033
01:50:04,400 --> 01:50:07,439
Speaker 1: coffee for three dollars and fifty cents, we're gonna hold

2034
01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:09,960
Speaker 1: his fifty cents to to the side. You went to

2035
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:14,040
Speaker 1: Lows and you bought a flashlight for twenty seven dollars

2036
01:50:14,080 --> 01:50:18,639
Speaker 1: and seventy cents, We're gonna hold this. And then once

2037
01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:23,560
Speaker 1: all of those transactions total five dollars, then it triggers

2038
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 1: for that five dollars to move from your checking account

2039
01:50:26,760 --> 01:50:30,080
Speaker 1: to your school stripe account. So if you wanted to

2040
01:50:30,720 --> 01:50:34,479
Speaker 1: support Texas Southern, for an example, it goes from your

2041
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:37,639
Speaker 1: your checking account to Texas Southern stripe account and then

2042
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:40,800
Speaker 1: Texas Southern takes the possession of that five dollars. Now,

2043
01:50:40,840 --> 01:50:42,599
Speaker 1: you said on a lot of boards, you know, most

2044
01:50:42,640 --> 01:50:45,400
Speaker 1: of other as Citizens Trust Bank Advisory Board, the Atlanta

2045
01:50:45,439 --> 01:50:49,440
Speaker 1: Police Foundation, Young Guns BOYD. So you always have been involved,

2046
01:50:49,479 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 1: You've always wanted to give back. Why is that important

2047
01:50:52,360 --> 01:50:54,479
Speaker 1: to you? And I'm not just talking about HBCU, but

2048
01:50:54,600 --> 01:50:56,600
Speaker 1: you have a you have a built in you know,

2049
01:50:56,720 --> 01:51:01,320
Speaker 1: d N a of of saying my six it's great,

2050
01:51:01,360 --> 01:51:04,000
Speaker 1: but it happened other people to be successful is even better.

2051
01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:07,120
Speaker 1: So so there are a couple of things to that.

2052
01:51:07,720 --> 01:51:13,800
Speaker 1: Number One, when you see issues using your community, you

2053
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 1: know a lot of times you just have to ask

2054
01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:17,960
Speaker 1: the simple question, what you want to do about it?

2055
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:22,360
Speaker 1: In the best way to contribute to being a part

2056
01:51:22,360 --> 01:51:24,519
Speaker 1: of the solution is just being at a part of

2057
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:27,920
Speaker 1: the solution and getting involved on boards that makes decisions

2058
01:51:28,040 --> 01:51:31,040
Speaker 1: on the impact on your community day in and day out.

2059
01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:34,479
Speaker 1: So that's one. Number Two, I live up. I believe

2060
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 1: in reciprocity and that is what you give out, you

2061
01:51:38,439 --> 01:51:40,360
Speaker 1: get back. And I believe that I'm blessed in my

2062
01:51:40,439 --> 01:51:44,200
Speaker 1: life because I give, I give, I give, I give more.

2063
01:51:44,720 --> 01:51:47,559
Speaker 1: So I would never have to want or weight on anything,

2064
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:51,440
Speaker 1: because I've already put the good energy out into the atmosphere.

2065
01:51:51,840 --> 01:51:55,200
Speaker 1: And then lastly, I love my people, and at the

2066
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:58,000
Speaker 1: end of the day, I think that that's the most

2067
01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:02,519
Speaker 1: important thing that I have loved, or black historical Black

2068
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:07,960
Speaker 1: colleges and universities, black businesses, black institutions, the Black Church period,

2069
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 1: because I understand that I am who I am because

2070
01:52:11,040 --> 01:52:14,120
Speaker 1: of those institutions. And and yeah, you're right, I did

2071
01:52:14,120 --> 01:52:17,599
Speaker 1: not go to HBCU, but more than likely the person

2072
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:21,080
Speaker 1: that came before me, the first private wealth advisor to

2073
01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:26,040
Speaker 1: the first private banker, probably had some connection or or

2074
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:28,840
Speaker 1: went to a historical Black college in university. And so

2075
01:52:29,320 --> 01:52:31,519
Speaker 1: that's not lost on me at all. And so I'll

2076
01:52:31,560 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 1: understand the importance of these institutions, and so I feel

2077
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:38,720
Speaker 1: that it's my obligation to support these institutions day in

2078
01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 1: and day out. Yeah, your father which is a Vania state,

2079
01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:43,960
Speaker 1: which is HBC, and your wife with the spellment you

2080
01:52:44,000 --> 01:52:47,400
Speaker 1: know you're an HBC. HBC you change and secure partnership

2081
01:52:47,439 --> 01:52:49,920
Speaker 1: with brands like Sea Groups, Jim Watch the r for

2082
01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:53,080
Speaker 1: Creative program, tell us about that and and Alsto your

2083
01:52:53,120 --> 01:52:57,240
Speaker 1: speaker series Keys to Growth absolutely so we'll start with

2084
01:52:57,320 --> 01:53:00,879
Speaker 1: Keys to Growth. Keys to Growth is beyond just raising

2085
01:53:00,960 --> 01:53:04,240
Speaker 1: money for hbc USE. We want to give the schools,

2086
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:09,519
Speaker 1: the administration, the alumni and supporters good information that they

2087
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:12,519
Speaker 1: can use. You know, is one thing thole saying that

2088
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:14,880
Speaker 1: um you can give someone a fish and they can

2089
01:53:14,920 --> 01:53:16,439
Speaker 1: eat for a day, but you can teach them how

2090
01:53:16,479 --> 01:53:19,320
Speaker 1: to fish and they can eat for a lifetime. What

2091
01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 1: we do is we go out and find the best

2092
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:23,679
Speaker 1: thought leaders in the world and we do a monthly

2093
01:53:23,720 --> 01:53:27,200
Speaker 1: conference for those thought leaders to come and give great

2094
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:32,840
Speaker 1: information to hbc US presidents administration on how they can

2095
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:36,880
Speaker 1: better monetize their brand, how they can use finances to

2096
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:41,400
Speaker 1: better leverage those finances to better position hbc used over

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Speaker 1: the Loan Call and so um our. Most recent um

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Speaker 1: Key's the Growth Series. We had Damon John from Shark

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Speaker 1: Tank and a gentleman by the name of Gary Benderchuck

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Speaker 1: who's a marketing genius, and he talked to HBCU presidents

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Speaker 1: about um using licensing to leverage their brands and to

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Speaker 1: make money. Most recently we've seen Nike and Lebron James

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Speaker 1: partnership with Florida and m University, and that's a great

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Speaker 1: example of how um an HBCU partner with Nike and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna use their licensing brand to ultimately make money

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Speaker 1: for in this case, the athletic program at Florida A

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Speaker 1: and M University. Well, you know when you have an

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Speaker 1: app trying to generate revenue called HBCU Change, it's naturally

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Speaker 1: coming to money. Make conversation. Okay, we're talking about conversation.

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Speaker 1: How you getting out because I'm definitely gonna drop this

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Speaker 1: in my newsletter And I got a platform called HBCU

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Speaker 1: Awards that's it's about Black excellence. It's because if you

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Speaker 1: can go, there's HBCU Awards dot Com. I'm gonna feature

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Speaker 1: this on then get my staff to sit down with

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Speaker 1: you and see if we can put this on our website.

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Speaker 1: And because I think this is really cool. UM my

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Speaker 1: executive producer, she's uh HBCU grab Hampton University. UM my

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Speaker 1: social media person. She's from Savannah State. As you said earlier,

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Speaker 1: for your father tended to hpc U. So but I

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Speaker 1: think this is something that you're You're here from it

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Speaker 1: because if this is something I want you to go.

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Speaker 1: It's called hbc Awards dot Com. If most Black excellence

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Speaker 1: in the in the area, academics as well as black

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Speaker 1: excellence overall. It's a combination of what we're talking about.

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Speaker 1: You know. I we talked about barbershop, beautici laws or

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Speaker 1: UH stamp programs, and academics. We talked about the marching bands.

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Speaker 1: We talked about all the business schools, We talked about

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Speaker 1: everything that involved and excels, the medical side, the nursing

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Speaker 1: side of HBCUs and so that's what I'm about. And

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01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:34,280
Speaker 1: so when I see something like that, if this is

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Speaker 1: an opportunity for us to promote and give you another

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Speaker 1: relationship that's legitimate that brings credibility to your brand, we

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01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 1: should talk and we should talk about giving you a

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01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:47,400
Speaker 1: link and it goes to your website and let people

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Speaker 1: figure out how to register and also put you in

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Speaker 1: our newsletter. But HPC Awards were on Instagram, Twitter and

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Speaker 1: Facebook and uh. Samantha Taylor of AP of the show

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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation is the one who brought you to

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Speaker 1: my attention to reach out. He's kind of like you.

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Speaker 1: He's on the HPCU GRAB. I feel you guys should

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Speaker 1: connect and that's why you're on this car. But more importantly,

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Speaker 1: you on this call, so's you can use our synergy

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Speaker 1: to help your brand win, because our goal is just

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Speaker 1: to get these young people an opportunity to get a

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Speaker 1: high education, spending the least amount of money. Absolutely, and

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Speaker 1: and and our and our goal is raised a billion

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Speaker 1: dollars faith pc US over the next five years. You

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people say a billion dollars, How

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Speaker 1: can you do it? Why are you even trying to

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Speaker 1: do it? And I always say that how is by

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Speaker 1: have these conversations that we're having right now and getting

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01:56:37,200 --> 01:56:40,360
Speaker 1: the awareness out on it as many platforms as possible

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01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:42,920
Speaker 1: so people can know that, hey, this is the goal,

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01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:44,880
Speaker 1: and we can do this, and we can achieve this

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Speaker 1: goal in five years. And so I'm excited and I

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01:56:48,240 --> 01:56:50,600
Speaker 1: want to say that I owe you to the deepest

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01:56:50,640 --> 01:56:53,200
Speaker 1: gratitude as possible, and I and I kind of honor

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Speaker 1: in the privilege for you to allow me to sit

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Speaker 1: here and be on your platform today because I know

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Speaker 1: you have a huge platform, and I feel that it's

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Speaker 1: important for me to get on this platform and and

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01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 1: and give the HBCU Gospel and hbc you Change gospel

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01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:08,600
Speaker 1: and let people know that just a couple of cents

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01:57:08,640 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 1: can go a long way and supporting HBC use over

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Speaker 1: there across this nation. Well not only a couple of cents,

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01:57:14,360 --> 01:57:16,720
Speaker 1: but you know your brand. And so that's why I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting up here looking as as doing this interview. Thought

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Speaker 1: this whole interview, Xavier, I'm just thinking, how can I

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Speaker 1: help him? How can I doing that one? You know something,

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Speaker 1: Let's let's put a link on the website, because I

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01:57:26,360 --> 01:57:28,680
Speaker 1: have a link already already that goes to Dr Teresa

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Speaker 1: Price and she does the Black Expose and Black Expose

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01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:34,360
Speaker 1: you can register on the spot, and so that's that's

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Speaker 1: another opportunity. I probably connect you with her, you know,

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Speaker 1: because just trying to associate your break because we all

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Speaker 1: got the bottom line, man, we're just trying to help

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Speaker 1: these young people to go to get education and change

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Speaker 1: their lives effectively, you know, give them upper hand. You

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Speaker 1: can go to college. And I'm not saying you have

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Speaker 1: to complete complete your education, but I'm just telling people

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01:57:51,120 --> 01:57:53,000
Speaker 1: go to college because Tylerge changed my life. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna lie to you. I would not be the man.

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Speaker 1: It took me seven years to graduating. Now, don't tell

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Speaker 1: it wasn't It wasn't end and out now whenn't the

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Speaker 1: end and out now. But but because I went there,

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Speaker 1: I saw so much more to what I saw growing

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Speaker 1: up in the black neighborhood. I saw so much more.

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Speaker 1: And that that diversity or being able to communicate with

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Speaker 1: so many different people, people who look like me, people

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Speaker 1: didn't look like me, allowed me to be the person

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Speaker 1: I am as a father, as a parent, as as

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Speaker 1: a husband, all those good things that's a business person

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Speaker 1: has led me to do through education. And that's just

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Speaker 1: what this this interviews by the education and HBCU is

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Speaker 1: the brand that's being underserved, underrecognized for the Black excellence

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Speaker 1: and the contributions. Because you know, I always tell people

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Speaker 1: a percent of the congressman a black HBC used, of

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Speaker 1: the doctors HBC used, you know, or seventy of the

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Speaker 1: of the of the of the teachers. It's it's just

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Speaker 1: a list that goes on and on. How a small

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Speaker 1: population of students graduated HPCU, but they dominate the black workforce.

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Speaker 1: That's powerful, brother, that's powerful, right. And and imagine if

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Speaker 1: hbc USE we're not around, yes, then where would we

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Speaker 1: be as a community. Right with those stats that you

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Speaker 1: just routed off, and like you said, there are many

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Speaker 1: more stats. The essentially HBCUs are the bare rock of

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Speaker 1: the black ecosystem and the black economy and so um

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Speaker 1: without HBCUs where nothing and and and they're needed. And

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Speaker 1: so we need to do in and everything to do

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Speaker 1: two things. Number one, UM supporting HBCUs and people kind

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Speaker 1: of being a drum major for HBCUs. That's that's a trend, right,

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01:59:35,800 --> 01:59:39,320
Speaker 1: that's in bold right now. It's our job to make

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Speaker 1: sure that it's not just a trend, but it's something

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Speaker 1: that's here to stay for decades and generations to come. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd like said, I'm developing HBCU radio network. You know,

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Speaker 1: so far I'm up to thirteen stations with money making conversations.

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Speaker 1: So I'm telling you, man, I want to mission. That's

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Speaker 1: why I love talking to you. Brother. I want to

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Speaker 1: mission to make change. And uh and I'm you you

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Speaker 1: already got your thing having it. But brother, anything I

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Speaker 1: can do for you, Xavia, I'm gonna do. That's why

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Speaker 1: I let you know my newsletter, my website on social media,

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Speaker 1: and plus I got my radio network that goes there's

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Speaker 1: an hour show that I program exclusively for HBCU. So

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Speaker 1: you know, this interview will be on that platform as

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Speaker 1: well as my national talk show platform. Nice. Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: looking forward to tapping in with both you and your team,

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Speaker 1: so I'm ready. So let me know when where both

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Speaker 1: me and my team would be there. Okay, cool? Well,

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Speaker 1: my office here in Atlanta, Georgia, so I'm based in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: I'm opening Peachtree Corners, Georgia, which is no across so

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Speaker 1: we're definitely connected. And I gotta go to Atlantic City

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Speaker 1: this weekend, but next week we're trying to connect. So

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Speaker 1: I just start sitting. You know, everybody knows my brain

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Speaker 1: and what I'm trying to do. I've been fortunate in

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Speaker 1: this business to uh be perceiving somebody who's successful. So

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Speaker 1: I used that talent uh to be able to give

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Speaker 1: other individuals like you platforms and that's what money making

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Speaker 1: conversation is. Okay, thank you so much. Well, I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to connecting with you soon when you get back.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, and I think your Xavier people's for coming

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Speaker 1: on my show, HBC. You change. He's making a difference

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Speaker 1: five but is a billion dollars. I mean I've been

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Speaker 1: dollars a billion dollars five years, a billion dollars in

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Speaker 1: five years. You know you can do it. It's a number, man,

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Speaker 1: It's a number, and it's a number. You know. You

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Speaker 1: know what happens, man, is that people try to think,

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Speaker 1: you know, just you're talking about since, and you know

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Speaker 1: since add up to dollars, and dollars adds up to

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Speaker 1: five and tens and fifteen twenties, and that's what that's

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Speaker 1: how you galvanize people to participate, is that you don't

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Speaker 1: encourage a lot. You just concourage some considers some level

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Speaker 1: of participation. And I knows you launched a campaign like

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Speaker 1: So my man, you're looking at the right dude, Man,

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Speaker 1: I care. I'm having sent over a deck to you

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Speaker 1: just to show you all HBC Radio Network just so

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Speaker 1: you can see what we're doing. Look at our platforms

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Speaker 1: that we're creating for black excellence so we can win together. Okay,

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