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Speaker 1: This is Frosted Tips with Lance Bass and my Heart

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Speaker 1: Radio podcast. Hello, my Little Peanuts, it's me your host,

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Speaker 1: Lance Bass. This is me Lance Bass, Frosted Tips with

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Speaker 1: me Lance Bass. It's like that Beyonce choreography by It's

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Speaker 1: called Beyonce. And of course my co host, Turkey Turk Chain.

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Speaker 1: Hello there, um today, I'm excited for an extra frosting.

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Speaker 1: I love these extra frostings to really get to know

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Speaker 1: these teen idols on the other side of the aisles.

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Speaker 1: The girl girls. Uh, it's like it's just a bad

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Speaker 1: prom where they're all in the bleachers with Okay, I'll

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Speaker 1: pick Okay, tiff you're up next. Let's go, let's dance. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And speaking of dancing, she's in the room right now,

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Speaker 1: So let's get to tiffan a all right. Tiffany renee Daris,

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Speaker 1: known as Tiffany American singer, song writer, actress teen icon

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Speaker 1: from Norwalk, California. Tiffany released her first album in nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty seven, The Best year ever. I always say eighty

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Speaker 1: seven has the best music and the best movies of

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Speaker 1: all time. And it just so happens that Turkey Church

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Speaker 1: in here was born in nineteen eighty seven, which makes

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Speaker 1: me want to like throw up sometimes. The self titled

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Speaker 1: album featured her hit single I Think We're a Lull Now,

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Speaker 1: but skyrocket thanks to no small part to her promotional

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Speaker 1: tour in the America's Mall. I mean this is just

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Speaker 1: this follows you everywhere you were the like Mall Princess.

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Speaker 1: Outside of music, Tiffany has a guest startled several television

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Speaker 1: shows and has acted in a handful of horror and

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Speaker 1: science fiction films. Tiffany, welcome to Frosted Tips. We've had

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Speaker 1: We've had so many great moments together, and I have

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Speaker 1: to say you're just one of my favorite people. When

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Speaker 1: you get in the business, you know and you work

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Speaker 1: with different people, you know, your colleagues and all that

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Speaker 1: type of stuff. But it was something about you that

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Speaker 1: we just had a really great bond and I've just

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Speaker 1: loved being friends with you. Oh thank you, babes, both

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Speaker 1: of you guys, I mean, bringing Michael into our lives

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Speaker 1: as well, another wonderful person and artists and now the twins,

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Speaker 1: and of course I know I haven't even had a

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Speaker 1: chance to be seeing your home and so I feel

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Speaker 1: like a terrible friend, But I love the guys. You

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Speaker 1: know that I love you know this is this The

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Speaker 1: good thing about social media is you can see people

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Speaker 1: in their lives and what's going on because I travel

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Speaker 1: so much, you know, after the pandemic and everything, and

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Speaker 1: during and even before, I was always you know, thinking ideas.

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Speaker 1: So I've you know, created quite a bunch of different

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Speaker 1: small businesses that I'm working variously behind the scenes of

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Speaker 1: shadows and all the promotions. So I'm like this house

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Speaker 1: on fire right now. But i feel bad because I

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Speaker 1: come into LA and I'm like, you know, you guys

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Speaker 1: are parents. Now. It's not always just run down to

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Speaker 1: is where I'm at. People know anything about LA. It's like,

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Speaker 1: I understand it's not eating together, but we're gonna make

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Speaker 1: the time. Because I want to throw this out there.

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Speaker 1: That is my birthday wish this year is to spend

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Speaker 1: time with the people that I love and to really

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Speaker 1: just like do the backyard barbecue thing, you know, chill out, like,

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Speaker 1: not the restaurant thing. Although I'm a foodie, you know,

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Speaker 1: I love, let's food with Tiffany, but just to have that,

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Speaker 1: you know, time. So I think that's gonna be my

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Speaker 1: treat is to rent an airbnb in La and kind

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Speaker 1: of spend some time with you guys, because that's what

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Speaker 1: life is about, gonna have that balance. Yes, it's so true,

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Speaker 1: and we we I was just reading somewhere it was

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Speaker 1: it's called an eight hour note an eight minute phone

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Speaker 1: call challenge, and I'm gonna start doing this. So we're

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Speaker 1: I'm horrible on the phone, Like it's it's hard for

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Speaker 1: these days. So to get that back, there's this thing.

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Speaker 1: It's an eight minute challenge, and I challenge all the

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Speaker 1: listeners right now once a week, just choose someone that

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Speaker 1: so much and life and life is just even you know,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, checking in with people is really important now

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Speaker 1: their mental health, how you do and you know, go ahead,

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Speaker 1: started it for Let Food with Tiffany on Food and Fame,

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Speaker 1: which is fifteen minute chat and your favorite recipe, why

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Speaker 1: what's happening in your life and career? And yes, with

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Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm gonna call my friends they

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Speaker 1: and I'm not used to interviewing people like you, so

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Speaker 1: I thought, well to tap my toe into it. It'd

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Speaker 1: be fun for the cooking Club, but it'd be fun

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Speaker 1: So I've been having fun with that, so I'd love

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Speaker 1: for you to come on. I already know what I'm

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Speaker 1: going to try to know your favorite recipe. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: just okay, I just learned my favorite baking recipe. My

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Speaker 1: so like trying to find sugar free desserts is really impossible,

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Speaker 1: what I'm going to do on her shop. All right,

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Speaker 1: thank you, I'm going to say thank you. But you

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. Because we we as the Cooking Club,

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Speaker 1: to do it right. Yell. Now, how do people watch

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Speaker 1: I I want it to be exclusive because there is

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Speaker 1: course you get exclusives and discounts and even discounts to

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Speaker 1: know you got commercials? Do you do my music on YouTube?

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Speaker 1: So that is where I have the Music Diaries, and

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Speaker 1: your wheelchairs that need to be refitted, and cars that

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00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 1: need new wheelchair you know, ramps and all of that.

427
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: There's always something for the need of these families. So

428
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep it going. So I would love to

429
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 1: pair with a jacket with you for our cause. And

430
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,800
Speaker 1: thank you so much you guys for catching up. And

431
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 1: I am coming to the house if you don't mind,

432
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,080
Speaker 1: and I'm bringing all your presents that I store the

433
00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna have to take this suitcase because I'm

434
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,119
Speaker 1: always thinking of my friends and I go, oh, this

435
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: would be funny. Oh they would like that. And I do.

436
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,639
Speaker 1: I have this whole closet stuff that never makes it

437
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 1: to your house. But I will will be coming with you.

438
00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bombard you. When do you think, like, what

439
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 1: is she doing? This crazy woman a need that's the

440
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 1: only gift we need. Oh well, I love you guys,

441
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 1: So let's go to uh all right, So you know

442
00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 1: this is a teen idol show. You were the ultimate

443
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: teen idol. How did you handle that at such a

444
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: young age? Was it easy for you? Did your family help?

445
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,520
Speaker 1: Did your did you surround yourself with friends? What was

446
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 1: that dynamic? Oh? Well, I mean my family was helping

447
00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: as much as they could at the time, because again

448
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: they didn't know anything about the business and they have

449
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,360
Speaker 1: their own things going on. So I really he kind

450
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 1: of learned by hands on. I learned from being around

451
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 1: other people in the industry, and I think that was

452
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 1: again good and bad both. I don't think I learned

453
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: any bad habits, but it was hands on. I mean

454
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 1: I was kind of thrown into it. So I learned

455
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:21,880
Speaker 1: to be an adult very quickly. Again, at my home,

456
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 1: I was probably already in that role, So it wasn't

457
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 1: hard for me to go, oh okay, long hours when

458
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: I say, by myself in a room, you know, everybody

459
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 1: else is working on something or playing an instrument or

460
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: writing the songs, and I just kind of hung out

461
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 1: and I would do my school work or take naps,

462
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:44,160
Speaker 1: or sit in the vocal booth and write poetry. Myself,

463
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 1: but I was like a sponge. I was taking it

464
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: all in from the creative to the business side. Two

465
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 1: meeting was with my label. The one thing I can

466
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: say about George Tobin where I think that he did

467
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 1: me justice was taking me to all of those boring

468
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 1: meetings that at you know again fourteen and fifteen. I'm like,

469
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: why am I here? You know, they're all having dinner

470
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: and they're talking about other artists. But I got to

471
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:15,399
Speaker 1: see the politics of our industry and how you barter

472
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: things and how you you know, go, well, you know

473
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: you have such and such, but I want you to

474
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: spend this record, so I'm going to give you this.

475
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: It is a lot of that and working together. So

476
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: eventually that did you know so much? For me as

477
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: a co manager now and knowing you know, things have changed,

478
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: but throughout my career I knew why, psychology wise, why

479
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 1: people were saying or doing things to me in the

480
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: business realm, and what they needed from me. So it

481
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: made me less frustrated as an artist. I was like, no, okay,

482
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: bottom line, this is what they need from me. Now,

483
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: how do I work that? As me? As an artist?

484
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 1: So adult, do you feel like you missed a childhood

485
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 1: or do you feel like you had some kind of

486
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: a child Oh, I feel like I had some kind

487
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: of a childhood. I do. I don't know, you know, again,

488
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,880
Speaker 1: if the music hadn't been in my life, I don't

489
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: know what my life would be. Because of my home life.

490
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, I probably would have married

491
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 1: very young. I probably would have stayed married and had children.

492
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: And I wasn't great at education. I didn't have any

493
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: real fire behind me for that. So kids and family

494
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: has always been you know, first, really and so important

495
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: that that's probably what would have happened to me. I

496
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 1: probably would have never maybe even used my talent, so

497
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: it kind of rescued me and it was my path.

498
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 1: So I did have a childhood. I think, you know,

499
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: I wish I would have developed more bonds with people

500
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: that I was on the road with when I was younger,

501
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: you know, and smelling the roses a little bit, because

502
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 1: I worked so much. I mean, when I wasn't on

503
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 1: the road in America, I then took off to Asia.

504
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: Then I want to but I did that for three

505
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: years straight. I don't think I saw my family, and

506
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: when I did, I was, you know, so tired and

507
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,680
Speaker 1: half asleep, So that kind of affected me a little bit.

508
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: But you know, I learned how to to to work

509
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,560
Speaker 1: to be a soldier as well. You know, now I

510
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: try to do seasons balance. It doesn't have to be Yeah, well,

511
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: I mean obviously huge in America. What countries out there

512
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 1: were you just surprised? Like, oh my gosh, like I

513
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: am huge and Portugal, Like what countries did you always

514
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:38,160
Speaker 1: go to? Like oh my goodness, the fans are incredible here. Yeah,

515
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: all of the countries, I mean they really. I think

516
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: Southeast Asia was great for me, has always been great

517
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: for me. The fashion there, the food, you know, all

518
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 1: of it. It's made me the foodie that I am.

519
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: That's really what Let's Food is about. It's my take

520
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 1: on international foods and how I've traveled and been influenced

521
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: by different community uies and different um you know, nationalities

522
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: and their take on the love of food that they

523
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: have and how it brings people together. So, you know,

524
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,639
Speaker 1: for me, it was landing in the UK. I remember

525
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: the first time I landed in the UK and people

526
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: knew I loved like all of pizza and they had

527
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: the Jean jackets on and I was like, oh, there's

528
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: like many versions of me, but they're with a different accent.

529
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: I love it. And then that you about me, and

530
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: that was something that I I embraced but didn't expect,

531
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: like how much they would know about me, you know,

532
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: my favorite things, my favorite songs, my favorite bands. Although

533
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: you always did those bot magazine questionnaires and gave all

534
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: that information out, it's different when you go to a

535
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: different country and you know, and they do know so

536
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: much about you, and they and they're bonding with you

537
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: and they want to know more about you know, what

538
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 1: your life is. So that played a big role on

539
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 1: me as a as a young adolescent. It also made

540
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: me feel like we're all connected. You know that the

541
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: countries aren't so different. They are with their unique flare,

542
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: but you know that kids in you know, the UK

543
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: or Taiwan or you know anywhere, frads or feeling the

544
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: same way I am. Um. I didn't really have that,

545
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't dating too much. Of course I

546
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: ended up going on the road and then dating John

547
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: at the night, but I didn't have like regular boyfriends

548
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 1: or anything. But you know, I did still have that

549
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: adolescence of feeling awkward or not knowing my place and

550
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: then you know, like I said, having that home life

551
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: that might not be so supportive. So there was a

552
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,719
Speaker 1: lot of other things we bonded on um and I found,

553
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: you know, a lot in common with a lot of

554
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: people all over the world. Did you say your favorite

555
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: pizzas all of pizza? Yes, girl, that would be my

556
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: least favorite thing of all. Oh gosh, I can't stand up. Yeah,

557
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: I've never even heard of just an all of pizza.

558
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: There's alive them supremes. But you can do multi, you

559
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: can do different. College to be careful, just give yeah,

560
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: good to go. Yeah. Well, if you want to add yeah,

561
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: that was my thing. I mean everybody knows about my

562
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: my we rock Dominoes on my tours. That's that was

563
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: my jam and it was Yeah, it was olive and

564
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: halapeno and if you wanted to get fancy, we put

565
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 1: pepperoni those together. Yeah. I like Dominoes. Yeah, we're a

566
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: Domino's family, especially because they changed their recipe a few

567
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: years ago and it's so much better. But we always

568
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 1: get pepperoni and halopeno. That's kind of our go to

569
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: our Yeah, okay, there you my own olive. I'll split

570
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: to the side, have my little bag of olive. Well,

571
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: I love olive so much that it's funny because people

572
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 1: have bought me olive, like for presents and or like

573
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,479
Speaker 1: you know, when they travel like that was basically Italy.

574
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: They buy me all of bring it, which is very

575
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: j and I love it um but you know, or

576
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: even even in high school, people would like put birthday

577
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 1: gifts together and they'd always buy the account of all

578
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: of thes because I liked all of them. That's so

579
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: funny because it's yeah, especially being a teen idol. You know,

580
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: you say one thing, like you like something, you're going

581
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: to get so much of it. I remember, yeah, you

582
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: know I love doctor SEUs, so oh my goodness, I

583
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,959
Speaker 1: have so much Doctor SEUs stuff. I think I might

584
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: have said I liked the beanie baby. Oh you get

585
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: five thousand about it, and you're kind of like stuck

586
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: with that the rest of your life. Like, well, I've

587
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: kind of outgrown ren and stimpy. I like Lamborghinis doesn't

588
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: catch on, you know, Porscha, you know the good stuff.

589
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: But now you're stuck with alives the rest of your life.

590
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: Yeah again, now for my cooking club, bring it on.

591
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,239
Speaker 1: I love it, but yeah, I mean, you know, and

592
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: they're getting quite unique as as they're pickling and putting

593
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: them in different different experiences. A lot of the olives

594
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: with garlic I love, so yes, I will be bringing

595
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: my own olives, but that was my jam as pizza.

596
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: And I think you know again, the Jean Jackets. They've

597
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 1: stayed around watching people being jackets and copying me on that,

598
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: and now they're doing it again because that's really what

599
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: the movie shadows experience. I'm painting the jackets and recreating

600
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: and I am talking to you know, maybe taking that

601
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 1: to a real business and who else would be better

602
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: to do? I mean exactly, really your originator? Are you

603
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: kidding me? I am so yeah, Yes, we're gonna do

604
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 1: it again. Peeps. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. But I

605
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: mean all of those things are fun for me. I

606
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: just like I said, I'm renovating my home, so downstairs,

607
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: cleaning up all the stuff I've had in storage to

608
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 1: make it the studio, vocal booth and piles and boxes,

609
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: all you know of old school magazines that I was in,

610
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: old school slides, all the photographer that I've kept over

611
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: the year, and just having a really good chuckle probably

612
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 1: about last week of finding all these things and the

613
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: poses and the things that I said. You know, there's

614
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: something about pop culture that's just unique. And I love

615
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: that I'm representing it now again full force in the show,

616
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 1: and that it really is taking on more of my

617
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: life from the pop up things that I'm doing with

618
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: the food, like the new cookbook, which is going to

619
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: be embracing pop culture. So a little week that can

620
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: hint after school special foods and how we can judge

621
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: those up and make them valid foods. But all the

622
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: flavor that we loved, as you know, just casual foods,

623
00:33:42,680 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: especially foods. Gotta rock my cheese it somehow. Guys, what's

624
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: great about this young generation is they can find music everywhere, right,

625
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: and your music is still so fresh and gen Z's

626
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 1: minds right because they know you. You're a legend. What

627
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 1: do you What do you think when people call you

628
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: a legend? And as a teenager, do you ever think

629
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: that you would get to that legendary status? No? I never.

630
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: I I don't even think about myself that way, which

631
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: is probably something that I sometimes need to like not

632
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: put you know, a little chip on my shoulder. But

633
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: you know, I've accomplished a lot and I'm always proud

634
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: and I'm always grateful, but I think sometimes you can

635
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,000
Speaker 1: start always thinking about what's next, what's next, what's next,

636
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: and sometimes you do have to sit back and go, ah,

637
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: but I did make it, you know. So it's when

638
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: I do things like go through scrapbooks or something I

639
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: really do, my heart kind of sinks, but in a

640
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 1: good way to say, you know, what a lucky person

641
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: I am that you know this, this girl from Norwalk,

642
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:14,600
Speaker 1: California was able to make it. I am a pop icon.

643
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: You know, people all around the world know who I am.

644
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 1: Still continue to do this, I can still do my

645
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: music and just a name like your Madonna, You're Elvis. Yeah,

646
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: I mean it's a blessing. I'm really it's fantastic. And

647
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: now what to do with that in because it's not over?

648
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: So you know, you're like, well, where do we do next?

649
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean, having that great name, but then you know,

650
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 1: how do you make that still legendary throughout your entire life?

651
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: And um, you know not kind of because I'm obviously

652
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: there's always this stigma of you know, the old starlet

653
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: or the where they now kind of thing, and it's

654
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 1: hard to keep with that type of thing for sure,

655
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: even if you're on aime, you know what you've done today.

656
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 1: I just won fifteen you know awards. Okay, great, where

657
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: are you going to be in ten years from now?

658
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: It's like that's that's what they ask you. So that

659
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: was great last night great, but today it's like, uh

660
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,480
Speaker 1: oh please. So it's like that and once you know

661
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: that again, you just have to have that balance. I'm determined,

662
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: I think for myself is to turn my career and

663
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 1: my success and this platform that I've been given to

664
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: other things, like I said, and to be known as

665
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,879
Speaker 1: somebody who is a foodie and was successful in that

666
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 1: and fashion and successful. All the things that I loved

667
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: did turn into something that you know, were sustainable on

668
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: different facets and successful. So that's the goal now. But again,

669
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: I couldn't have that if it wasn't for I think

670
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: we're low now in the beginning and all the things

671
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: that came to be for us. That song was just

672
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: you know, like when you first made that song, did

673
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: you just know immediately it was gonna be a hit?

674
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: I did it because I didn't want to record that.

675
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: Actually I was, you know, I want to do more

676
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: rock stuff. So I think Rolono came in and it

677
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: was the original. They played me Chommy James and the

678
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: shan Del's version, which I don't know if I had

679
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: heard before. If I did, I didn't really you know,

680
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: stand out with me and it was all children behy

681
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, wow, where are we going

682
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: with it? This is not And it got worse because

683
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: when I came the next day the track was all

684
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: and I'm like, this is a dance song. I didn't, well,

685
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,959
Speaker 1: I want to be Cheryl Crowe, like, you know, what

686
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: is happening. So I was kind of bummed, But of

687
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,719
Speaker 1: course I took it home and was learning the song

688
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: to go back into the studio the next day, playing

689
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: it for my friends in my bedroom and they started

690
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: dancing and jumping around and I think they were even

691
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: doing the moves, you know, And I thought, well, it

692
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: makes people happy and they like h So that was it,

693
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: you know, my manager and producer at the time. I

694
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: really wasn't crazy about singing the song, but I enjoyed

695
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: singing the song probably by the end of the day,

696
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: because it does have that infectious feeling. I don't know

697
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 1: why it makes you happy, It just there's something about it.

698
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: So I'm very lucky on that aspect. It is, and

699
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: it's a song that has really just like stood the

700
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: test of time, like it's a song like they came

701
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: out now. I think people were so singable. It's like

702
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 1: you know, you know a hit when you hear it

703
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: so much at karaoke, right, if that's the song everyone

704
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: was singing. I hear that song so much. Oh. I mean,

705
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: I remember when I was in high school just always

706
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: like in my car with our like CD mix CDs

707
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: and like all of my friends would have I think

708
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: we're alone now on like their mixes. I just remember,

709
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: like just distinctly, just like singing in the car to

710
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: that song with my sister over and over and over.

711
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: But my favorite was could have been was probably my

712
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: favorite from that You love And then you did a

713
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 1: song years later, maybe with Red Man. It was from

714
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 1: your album probably released right like two thousand and five, Um,

715
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: wake Up, Wake Up. It was Bone Thugs and Harmony.

716
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: Yeah I'm not sleeping. So that was the song that

717
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: I wrote. I love that, you know again, just I

718
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: was very involved at that time in my life. I

719
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: thought I was going to be opening up a domestic

720
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,319
Speaker 1: violence shelter, which is something that I've always wanted to

721
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: do and working with again people with mental health and

722
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: just you know, I come from Norwalk. I mean that's

723
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: a lot of my friends didn't have the things that

724
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,800
Speaker 1: I had, and their lives took a different way, and

725
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: a lot of my girlfriends got themselves in really bad situations.

726
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 1: So you know, I learned a lot about that and

727
00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: how much there was a need for that. So that's

728
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 1: what was happening during the time, and that's what I'm

729
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 1: not sleeping was about, was about those experiences that I

730
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: had heard, and which was really great because we did

731
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: partner with the domestic violence i think helpline and be

732
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: able to raise some money for them. And but yeah,

733
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: that's Crazy Bone on that rap. Okay, it's like spooky scary.

734
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 1: He played the bad dude in there, you know, the

735
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: bad boyfriend or you know, the bad guy. But he

736
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 1: did a great job. And I mean all of that's

737
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 1: when I talk about pairings, you know, and being able

738
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: to collaborate with people. People were like Tiffany and crazy

739
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 1: Bones and Bones and what. But you know that song

740
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: came out of it. It's great. Um. Well, speaking more

741
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,880
Speaker 1: of teen Idols a few weeks ago. We had Debbie

742
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: Gibson on the show, and of course we had to

743
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: you know, talk about the you know, the alleged feuds

744
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: back in the day, which was completely sensensialized, you know

745
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: by the media. Um and you know, we we went

746
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: into depth with her and she just never really understood

747
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: why the media was the so hell bent on like

748
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: pitting YouTube you know girls. At the time, she was

749
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: Backstreet and you were in Yeah, I kind of, I

750
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 1: mean the same, you know, Brittany Christina. They just love

751
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: to put to you know, you know, like successful similar

752
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: artists against each other. So what was your whole mindset

753
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 1: back in the day when all of that was happening.

754
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't really give it much attention, to

755
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I think for me, and I've

756
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: talked to them about it, you know, I got a

757
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: little annoyed sometimes when you know you're doing your interviews

758
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,360
Speaker 1: and it's hard enough. Literally, yeah, well that was you

759
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,399
Speaker 1: had a number one single, But where do you see

760
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: yourself in ten years? And I'm like, I don't know,

761
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: I'm sixteen. I'm just happy to be doing that. Would

762
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:46,319
Speaker 1: be on a plane going I think they tell me

763
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: Argentina I'm not too sure, like there's a lot going on,

764
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 1: you know, but it got it would get heavy at times. Yeah,

765
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 1: and then they would start to make me try to

766
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,080
Speaker 1: validate Debbie as well, and I'm like, well, hold and

767
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: I can only be responsible for myself. Let'll him tell

768
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: you what dev thinks. And I haven't even had a

769
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: conversation with this girl. In passing, we're like on the

770
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 1: red carpet to throw us together. We do photos and

771
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: then we're like, oh did you Oh okay, call you later,

772
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: oh bye, And that's it. And that was our relationship

773
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 1: for many, many years. Although we had mutual friends and

774
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: of course projects were so it wasn't until Mega Python

775
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: Versus Gamehood stilly sci fi movie that we were sucking

776
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: trailers in one location as you know, pop stars, as

777
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: growing up together as you know, friends but not really

778
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: knowing each other but being friendly that we could say

779
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: now we got to know each other. It took that

780
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: little billy movie for us to be in the same

781
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: to really talk as people and go, oh, okay, you know,

782
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: we're friends, like I know you now you know and

783
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: we are so different, but that's that's the good thing.

784
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: And now we've learned and I think are fans have

785
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: learned that they don't have to pick one or the other.

786
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: It's not insulting to us. We're a complete package together

787
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: and we're happy to be that way ortivate each other's friends.

788
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: But I think that's what the industry has to do.

789
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: It's a good read. Again, there's that what do they

790
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,880
Speaker 1: need from you? Well, I mean it's a praise and rejection.

791
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: The way that the industry works, or the way popularity works,

792
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: is we praise them to get them to that point,

793
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: and then that's kind of boring. So now let's find

794
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: something wrong with him. Yes, and if you can have

795
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: two different people that you have bartering back and forth

796
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: and there's this feud, and they said, I just think

797
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: now it's it's smart. Some celebrities have gotten wind of

798
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: it and they kind of like play into it and

799
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 1: make it work for them. Yeah, I mean that's true.

800
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: You know again, I'm good read. It's fun. Well, that's

801
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: why I was so excited to start for us the

802
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: tips because it's bringing all the fandoms together. Where once

803
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: everyone was so separated and you had to have a team.

804
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 1: This is finally a place where everyone can go learn

805
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 1: about those artists that maybe weren't allowed to like at

806
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: the time and really get to know them and to create,

807
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: you know, create more fans on the show and everyone

808
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: come together. It's time. No, yeah, I mean all the

809
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 1: old school stories that you don't I mean that's the

810
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: thing with like again, you know, the album diaries. I

811
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: don't get to talk about how I felt really or

812
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: you know, the experience, or who screamed at me or

813
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: what they may have said that day that really made

814
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: me feel. You know again, I might be Tiffany, but

815
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: that made me feel really human and really you know,

816
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: unneeded or rejected or whatever it is. And that does

817
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: go into your music. You know, it should go into

818
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 1: your writings. For me, I've you know, I think again

819
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 1: my whole experience as a team with having my family

820
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: being unbalanced, I learned to have to cut that off.

821
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: So you know, it's helped me again, I can do that.

822
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: I can go from whatever is chaotic here to write

823
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: to stage two. I'm present, this is what we're doing.

824
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: It's hard, though, you know, I've learned to do that

825
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: more and more. But you have to because again, that

826
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,279
Speaker 1: can come on to you and then you're not great

827
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: in your shows and all that, and yeah, there's been

828
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,439
Speaker 1: times even in my life lately that it started to

829
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: affect me and then I had to take a break

830
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: and pop up and get it back together. But you know,

831
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: it's all this wonderful ride that I think people want

832
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 1: to see now, like like your show, they want to

833
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,279
Speaker 1: know more behind the scenes, what I was thinking, what

834
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 1: was making me tick that you don't get to say

835
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: in regular interviews. And you know, again, it's I'm at

836
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: a good point now that I really can start to

837
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: talk about a lot of the pop culture stuff and

838
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: have fun with that. There was a time in my

839
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: career I think I had to man the ship and

840
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: not maybe be so tiffany because I was going to

841
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: get stuck there and that was it, ye like, and

842
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: I had to like go, yeah, I know that, but

843
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna have to push forward and talk

844
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: about what I'm doing now. I know they don't want that,

845
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: but if I don't, I'll never get this opportunity. So

846
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: I have to break down these walls and then we

847
00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: can go back and all hug it out, okay, And

848
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: that's kind of what we're doing now. So it feels

849
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: really great. I feel really liberated to be at this spot,

850
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 1: to be able to like share all of these things

851
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: with my fans and you know, and to be able

852
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: to talk about old school and you know, and then

853
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 1: to go and take the stage with new stuff and

854
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: for everybody to go, oh, I get it. She's still

855
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: doing it, you know. And that's our girl. So it's

856
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 1: you know, and I have to say thank you to

857
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: all of my team for doing that for the you know,

858
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 1: keep continuing in the fight, because you know, you're always

859
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 1: breaking walls down as an artist, I feel, especially if

860
00:46:43,840 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: you want to do something new. Um, Okay, let's go

861
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: back to the love story of you and Jonathan Knight.

862
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: I need to know. I want to know how you met.

863
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: Was it love at first sight? Um? I need to

864
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: know the whole teal on this, because I don't think

865
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: I've ever asked you how y'all met. I don't think

866
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: while we met on the tour. So what happened was

867
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 1: my agent had just signed the New Kids on the Block, okay,

868
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: and I was doing a show at Westbury, um and uh,

869
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 1: well let's see that's long a long island. And um,

870
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: I was backstage with my friend Sanita. We were probably

871
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: eating pizza and these five guys walked in. Jerry Aide

872
00:47:43,360 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: said he was going to bring you know, five guys.

873
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: They're a new band and he really liked me to

874
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: see them. He of course did it on a weekend

875
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: that my manager wasn't there, so that was far and

876
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: put these five guys in front of me, and of

877
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: course it was like, you know, we're two young girls

878
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: going quete cute cute, yes, yes, but of course the

879
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: music was right on point and they had the you know,

880
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 1: the choreography, all of it. It was perfect. And I

881
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: know my audience. I knew most of my audience would

882
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: have young girls out there, so yeah, this is a

883
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: no brainer. Literally, I said, well, you guys have your

884
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: show with you, why don't you go on tonight? And

885
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: of course my agent was thrilled. Yeah you know, and

886
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: everybody's like what okay. So that was my call, my

887
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 1: first business call, to put the new Kids on the

888
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: Block on stage, and they did. And that's the one

889
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: thing I loved about them. Nobody, you know, coming from

890
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: country and you know Nashville, you want to sing, you

891
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: go sang, you know, it's like you shine now, and

892
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 1: I come from that, and they rose to that occasion.

893
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: It wasn't oh well we don't have our outfits with us,

894
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: or oh no, it's like okay, great, we'll stand up

895
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: here and tell you want us. And I love that.

896
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: And that's when I got a phone call. The next

897
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,439
Speaker 1: day though, my manager called me and went, you don't

898
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,279
Speaker 1: ever do those things. Oh so he was bad that

899
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: you put them on. I got so much trouble because

900
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: he didn't have a piece of them. That's why he probably,

901
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: But I also do think you know, and it made sense.

902
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: You cannot compete with a boy band, especially when your

903
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: demographic is most look it is it's Harry because I

904
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: remember when you know, Brittany joined us on our first

905
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: tour and she was just coming out with baby one

906
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,879
Speaker 1: more time. So I mean people, some of the fans

907
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: you were from Mickey Mouse Club obviously, but you know,

908
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: she was our sister. So she came out on tour

909
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 1: with us. The first half of the tour was so

910
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: dark for her because yes, those teen girls were attacking her.

911
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: She would come off stage crying and just like, oh

912
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,240
Speaker 1: they hate me. Then you know, halfway through the tour though,

913
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 1: it just turned everyone just started loving her. Yeah them,

914
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:57,880
Speaker 1: then they will be once they find that you're not

915
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: a threat, right then they then they will connect with you.

916
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: And that's why when we did the Reconnection Tour, the

917
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: Reunited Tour in twenty nineteen, it was great because I

918
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: could actually be around those girls and they didn't want

919
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: to kill me. I was like, oh, yeah, we are

920
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: aces and kids and things that like my girls, you know,

921
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: So it's it's a full circle. But before you know,

922
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I was just on the road with them,

923
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: and even the first tour I saw it turning a

924
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: little bit because of course I was having troubles with

925
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: my manager and we weren't releasing as much music, so

926
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: I was touring off all the old music, so it

927
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,959
Speaker 1: wasn't a great time for me. By around the second tour,

928
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: there was a lot of transition for me as an

929
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: artist behind the scenes. And then the new kids, of

930
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:47,160
Speaker 1: course were coming up with their success, so you know,

931
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,359
Speaker 1: that's a lot of things that were happening. So the

932
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: plates were spinning. But I do think that my manager

933
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: saw it's going to be a hard one now. You know.

934
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 1: Now you've got like all these girls are gonna want

935
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,319
Speaker 1: a piece of these guys, and you're what are you

936
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: gonna do about on it, and then of course dating

937
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: one made more complication to that, and John and I

938
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:09,319
Speaker 1: were backstage hanging out all the time. Of course, I

939
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: love each and every new kid. They're all so unique.

940
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: Joe was, I don't he's not so much different with

941
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 1: our age, but he was so tiny that we always

942
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: treated him a kid, which was not fair. And and

943
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 1: Donnie was, you know, all over his Donnie doing his thing.

944
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: Jordan was always very quiet, and Danny probably was at

945
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: the gym. Nothing's changed. Yeah, So John really had a

946
00:51:34,040 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: hard time with all the people in his space. He's

947
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: really not that person. Yeah, he didn't really like it,

948
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,360
Speaker 1: so he would always be the quiet ones didn't. And

949
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: I remember us sitting in a sound check and that

950
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 1: was really my like my first time really talking to him,

951
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: and he was asking me, you really like this? So

952
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: you like this? Like you you do okay with this?

953
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,600
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, you do. He's like, there's

954
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:04,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people in my space and like it's

955
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:08,799
Speaker 1: so he was forming that already, and we just had

956
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:13,399
Speaker 1: really good conversations. In the beginning. It was just hanging out.

957
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: He was always kind of like sitting there and I'm

958
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:21,400
Speaker 1: pretty quiet, although I'm vibrant. When I'm not being Tiffany,

959
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: I'm actually a pretty quiet person. I kind of I

960
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,560
Speaker 1: kind of just sit back and watch others. And that

961
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: worked for us. And that was it. We started. We

962
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: loved dogs, we loved tropical fish. It started over, you know,

963
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: simple things like that, just kid blings. And then we

964
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,719
Speaker 1: spent more time together, and you know, I think we

965
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: became a boyfriend and girlfriend, but I think that really

966
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: more than anything, we had that friendship and and I

967
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: still treasured that friendship very much, you know, and that

968
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: was it was a sweet thing because he wasn't, you know,

969
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: pressuring me to do things that normal guys were in

970
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: the limited time time that I had time to go home.

971
00:53:02,040 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: Any of my high school friends that I wasn't even dating,

972
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: but they were guys in my life. Yeah, they wanted

973
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: something else from me, and there was all that kind

974
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,399
Speaker 1: of pressure, and of course I didn't want to fall

975
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: into that or get pregnant or you know, or even

976
00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,720
Speaker 1: any of that. You know, my home life again, Norwalk,

977
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: California is just simple people, So there was all kinds

978
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: of mess to get into if you wanted to. But

979
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: I was already on my way to work, in my

980
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,959
Speaker 1: career and being around great people. So it was really

981
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 1: the simplicity of our friendship. See back in the day,

982
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: we you know, I don't know if kids do it

983
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,399
Speaker 1: this day, but in order to establish your boyfriend girlfriend relationship,

984
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,319
Speaker 1: one of you had to say, will you go with me?

985
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: I think that was the Mississippi no no that at

986
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: everywhere will you go? So I could be wrong, but

987
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 1: I think I, you know, I kind of remember that

988
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 1: when I really knew we were kind of like boyfriend

989
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 1: and girlfriend is when John started to take my hand

990
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: in front of people, because he knew that that was

991
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: going to piss a lot of girls off. But I

992
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: think he got tired of it a little bit. You know,

993
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: even in his own life he had to run and

994
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: hide and like it was like you couldn't get off

995
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: the bus because it's crazy. So by that time he

996
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, well I'm just doing this, you know,

997
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 1: come with me to think, you know, And I was like, oh,

998
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 1: you're showing people were together, okay, you know, but yeah,

999
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: it was great. I mean that's you know, it was short,

1000
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 1: but I think we really only were dating really officially,

1001
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: maybe a year, because by the second tour I was

1002
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 1: going off and getting off the road and they were

1003
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: at the height. I mean, that was it. And I

1004
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,399
Speaker 1: definitely I've always had the mentality just seeing my own

1005
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: bandmates and an old soul and probably you know, seeing

1006
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: the rock and roll stories. Is it's very hard for

1007
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: you know, especially guys, I think, and I don't honestly

1008
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: just guys, but when you're at the height of your

1009
00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:00,279
Speaker 1: career and you're young, it's very hard to become it

1010
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 1: to one person. Of course, as you're going to turn

1011
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: the world, Yeah, it's always going to take like back burner. Yeah,

1012
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: I think I felt like for me, you know, although

1013
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: I trusted John, I just was like, come on, you know,

1014
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean really, there's all these girls everywhere, so you know,

1015
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: I mean I get it. I'm not going to let

1016
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: it ever hurt our friendship. And I was, you know,

1017
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 1: and we're not going to get married right now. We're

1018
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: both young. Um, although you know, I think that you know,

1019
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 1: there was just something so special about that, having that

1020
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,399
Speaker 1: open communication and not we didn't really string it out

1021
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: where it got heavy. You know. Um, out of everything

1022
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 1: you've experienced in your career, what's that moment that you

1023
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: look back at and uh, and you just kind of

1024
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 1: replay in your head, like, wow, that was that was

1025
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: just really cool? Oh uh well, probably seeing Michael Jackson

1026
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: and having him, you know, the week that I knocked

1027
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,319
Speaker 1: bad off of the number one, Oh you were to

1028
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: do it talk about heavy? I was like, I think

1029
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna like me, going to be great, what's gonna happen?

1030
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 1: He so generous, He held up the whole line for me,

1031
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:18,919
Speaker 1: and you know, he was engaging and it didn't care.

1032
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,320
Speaker 1: It wasn't like, oh, here's the little girl that knocked

1033
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: me off a bad you know, m He was more,

1034
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: are you having a good time and you know, congratulations

1035
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 1: and you know, let's take a picture, and I just

1036
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: it was leaving your body moment where you know. And

1037
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,720
Speaker 1: again it also showed me, I have to say about

1038
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: that appreciation of a major pop star embracing me and

1039
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,240
Speaker 1: saying that it's okay that I knocked his number one off.

1040
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: You know for my number one there, it wasn't competitive,

1041
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:54,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't ugly, and that's always made an impression on

1042
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: me as an artist too, to be able to be

1043
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,959
Speaker 1: again cool with other artists. Oh okay, I released my single,

1044
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: but yours went better? All right? You know. I mean,

1045
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: it wasn't my time. Whatever, I'll see you, you know,

1046
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: next week we'll be hanging out, you know. I mean

1047
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: it made a big impression on me. Yeah, it should

1048
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: be that easy, all right. Here's a tip from a fan,

1049
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: Cheryl thirteen. What advice do you have for a struggling songwriter? Well,

1050
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: it changes every day. Now you know all of the

1051
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:29,800
Speaker 1: laws and the rules and all the publishing, but the

1052
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: biggest thing is just to keep doing it, you know,

1053
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: be open minded. I'm now and you know, I've been

1054
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,720
Speaker 1: in Nashville for many years now, I think more than

1055
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:43,440
Speaker 1: than la. I'm a Nashville in and I came to

1056
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: Nashville as a songwriter and put the Tiffany hat to

1057
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: the side. I wasn't doing an album and I just

1058
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: wanted to engulf the community. And it was very hard

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00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: for me because of course, when you sit with people,

1060
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,080
Speaker 1: they go, so, what album were we doing? What were

1061
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: we writing for? Where you going? And I'm like, no,

1062
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: I'm just writing. And if you want to be a

1063
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: part of that, then that's great. And I had to

1064
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: find my people, so a community of writers would be great.

1065
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: You can find them online. There's all kinds of different forums,

1066
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: to be a part of people all over the world,

1067
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: to have a community base as a songwriter, which I

1068
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: highly suggest. And the more you do it, the more

1069
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: that you listen to you know, different genres of music.

1070
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: Being pliable as a songwriter. I have a handicap because

1071
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 1: they don't play an instrument. But yet I have these

1072
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: melodies that go through my brain that I'm like, no,

1073
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: I know it works, I don't know how it just does.

1074
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 1: And then I have to struggle to communicate that to

1075
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: a fellow guitar player or pianist. And thank god I

1076
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: have those people. If you can pick up an instrument,

1077
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: if you don't play, start now. That would be the

1078
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 1: one thing that I would have changed way back when.

1079
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: And I'm still gonna do it. I'm still gonna learn piano.

1080
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: But you know, it takes discipline to practice. That helps

1081
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: you as a songwriter, That helps you um communicate your ideas,

1082
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: because I still do struggle with that, but you know,

1083
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: the more that you can do it and then putting

1084
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: yourself out there, there's all kinds of forums now, uh,

1085
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, the people are looking for songs, so you know,

1086
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,919
Speaker 1: the world is your oyster. I really do think that

1087
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 1: it's not the same platform as you've got to go

1088
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: get the label, and then you've got to be you've

1089
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 1: got to live in Nashville now, and you've got to

1090
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: know that's still another way to do it. I have

1091
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 1: friends moving to town next weekend and they're starting their

1092
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: writing careers and they're going to do it old school Nashville,

1093
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 1: and that's probably the longer road, but you know, that's

1094
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: another way to do it. But you know, for now,

1095
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: especially in pop music and current commercial music and TV

1096
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: and film, you know, you can be doing it from

1097
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: your from your room. Just got to do it and

1098
00:59:55,840 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: be again aware of what Yeah, look at TikTok you

1099
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: and I mean. As a lyricist, I'm open for there's

1100
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: a there's a place for every song. I really do

1101
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 1: believe that. But you know, obviously, you know, as a lyricist,

1102
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: I try to form ideas that aren't just the first thing.

1103
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes the first thing that comes to your mind and

1104
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: off your lips is the best, but sometimes it's just

1105
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: the structure. And then I live with a song, and

1106
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: I live within a song, and I say, no, that's

1107
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, that's not a deep enough way to express that.

1108
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: It'll come there's a cooler, deeper way to say that

1109
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 1: that's not, you know, the norm, because the norm has

1110
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 1: been said. I want to go to the next level

1111
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: and sitting with your songs for a bit and really

1112
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 1: demanding that of them. I think that's what I do

1113
01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: as a songwriter, so I always, you know, try to

1114
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: challenge people with that. I want to do more songwriting camps.

1115
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: We were just talking about it with Johnny Martin actually,

1116
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: and I think there's a songwriting camp that had a

1117
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: bunch of Carmen A Peace and all these all these

1118
01:00:57,320 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 1: different rock guys, and that's what they do. They mentor

1119
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 1: for songwriting, and I want to do more of that.

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01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: I know Deb does some song camps with herself and

1121
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,880
Speaker 1: all of her deb heads and stuff. And it's important

1122
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: because there's so many people out there that, you know,

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01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: just want to learn how to write songs and be

1124
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,440
Speaker 1: a part of our community. Whether you're successful or not,

1125
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters as long as you're doing

1126
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: something you love and there is a place and right now,

1127
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,280
Speaker 1: I can't say enough. The more I'm learning about the

1128
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: buzz in the industry, and I just did something for

1129
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: Amazon as an actress. But there's all these different TV

1130
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:33,960
Speaker 1: and film opportunities for song placement, and you know, especially

1131
01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,920
Speaker 1: these young kids out there, they're cranking out some stuff.

1132
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:41,919
Speaker 1: I'm always watching and learning and speaking of movies. So

1133
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:44,720
Speaker 1: missus Morrise eighty nine would like to know what did

1134
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: you think of the movie Ted using your song. I

1135
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 1: loved it. I didn't know what's going to happen. I

1136
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 1: thought it was funny. I was I think the first

1137
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:58,040
Speaker 1: time I saw it was with the band. Someone said, oh, yeah,

1138
01:01:58,040 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet, and I was like, no,

1139
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance. And they put it on

1140
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: and I was like the bears they grew alone. Now

1141
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: all right, So now I have a nineteen eighty seven

1142
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: interview from Best Hits. All right, what do you do

1143
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: when you're not involved with music and not going to school?

1144
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 1: What did you say in nineteen eighty seven eating all

1145
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:26,400
Speaker 1: of pizza nou shopping in the malls? Yeah, probably shopping.

1146
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: It made me a mean shopoholic, as you know, and

1147
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:33,040
Speaker 1: I do not want right, I'm fine with it. Well,

1148
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: in eighty seven you said I talk on the phone

1149
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: most of the time when I am not going to school.

1150
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: Oh well, yes, I was a normal teenager, but By

1151
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 1: that time, I was talking on one of those brick phones.

1152
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 1: You know those things that well you guys, but you

1153
01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: had to carry this brick around with you. Yeah. Man,

1154
01:02:51,160 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: that's what I had on the car phone. I was

1155
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: just talking to somebody about the car phone. Now that

1156
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 1: was I thought I was the bomb when I got Oh, yeah,

1157
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 1: my dad had you know, the one that came in

1158
01:03:01,240 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: like the leather case, had a totally had the whole box. Yeah,

1159
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 1: curly whatever, And I thought so cool. I would take

1160
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: the car but yeah, I got I got a car phone.

1161
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: You Yeah, Oh my gosh, Tiffany. It has been so

1162
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: great catching up with you. I always love seeing you

1163
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: and I cannot wait till you're back in LA and

1164
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: you get to go squeeze some kettoes? Yeah? How can

1165
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: everyone stay in touch with you out there? Tiffany Tunes

1166
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: dot Com that's all things tiff World, my Instagram of course,

1167
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: Tiffany Tunes and let's Food with Tiffany for the cooking aspect.

1168
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,360
Speaker 1: So Tiffany Tunes dot Com is really all things for me.

1169
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: The new merch that is going to be happening, like

1170
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,120
Speaker 1: all the UV stuff and all the retro stuff. We're

1171
01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: gonna be coming out with the retro line as well,

1172
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: so a little again we went back to the old school, um.

1173
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: And then all the news stuff I've gotten going on

1174
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: with Shadows, all the tour dates are there. You know

1175
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: we're going to be doing another video and another couple

1176
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,520
Speaker 1: of months when we get on the road, and some

1177
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 1: international travel too, taking it to other countries this year.

1178
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: So keep up with me on and I get all

1179
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 1: the things team tips, all the fans on Tiffy teams

1180
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 1: dot com. All right, I can't wait for my Jeane

1181
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:22,240
Speaker 1: jacket yea, And please leave your fans with a message

1182
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 1: right now. What do you want to tell your amazing

1183
01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 1: fans out there? Well, I of course I love you guys,

1184
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:30,400
Speaker 1: and I hope you're well, and I do I hope

1185
01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,680
Speaker 1: you follow me on all my different socials that that

1186
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:34,640
Speaker 1: I have can be a part of my world, from

1187
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: cooking to a let's end my friend, where we're learning

1188
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 1: meditation and holistic medicine, Chinese medicine that's keeping me in

1189
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,240
Speaker 1: the game, where I share more about my experience and

1190
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: weight loss and just all of it. Long COVID I've had,

1191
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: so you know, all the different things that I'm learning

1192
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: about myself and how to protect my health and immunity

1193
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: and alternative ways. I mean, I live on the road,

1194
01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: so you got to keep it in the game. And

1195
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 1: and then of course shadows. We've got lots planned. I mean,

1196
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: the cool thing about releasing records is today is that

1197
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:12,480
Speaker 1: there's there's there's no um, there's no what do you

1198
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: want to say? You know, there's no box you can do,

1199
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: so you know, for me, I just want to keep

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01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:23,400
Speaker 1: totally focused on this album and it's got so many

1201
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 1: great songs that I want each song to have its time. Uh.

1202
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,400
Speaker 1: And we're gonna be doing better videos and better behind

1203
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: the scenes content and possibly even a documentary about scenes.

1204
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 1: You know, it'll be gritty, guys, because I want to

1205
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: show the real stuff. That's what we want. And because

1206
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: you live your authentic self. And thank you so much

1207
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: for sharing all of your passions with the world, because

1208
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,040
Speaker 1: you're interested in so many things that we're all interested in.

1209
01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 1: And I can't wait to fix that strawberry cake for

1210
01:05:52,680 --> 01:05:55,919
Speaker 1: you because it's oh my gosh, I know, see I'll

1211
01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: be cheating that day, but not so bad. It's not

1212
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 1: bad sugar sugar free, it's good sugar free. I know.

1213
01:06:03,040 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: I've been on a real, real, like clean, fastened step

1214
01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: for this tour, I can reset my immunity, so yeah,

1215
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 1: I'll be ready for some like strawberry cake. Let's do it,

1216
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: all right, we have it, We have a date, all right,

1217
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: tiff It is so lovely seeing you and I cannot

1218
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: wait to squeeze you very soon. Awesome babes. Alright, I

1219
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: love you, love everybody. I love me some Tiffany, so

1220
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: you know I love I always say eighty seven is

1221
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: my favorite yea of all the decade of the eighties. Tiffany,

1222
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 1: I think is the one that I just I just

1223
01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 1: remember the most. I don't know, she just really resonated

1224
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 1: with you at such a young age. I think maybe

1225
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: because my sister liked her, because like, Tiffany was like cool,

1226
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: you know, she was like just a cool This girl

1227
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 1: was cool. She was cool. Yeah, it's not cheesy about

1228
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 1: this one, no, Like I want to be as rocker

1229
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: as Tiffany, I know, and she in her voice and

1230
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 1: her songs are just so good and it's still go

1231
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:04,640
Speaker 1: check out that one. Have you heard the one that

1232
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 1: you did with um? Now I'm going to bone. What

1233
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: are bone? Folks? And harmony guy? Something Bones, Crazy Bones Bones. Uh,

1234
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: it's so good, I'm gonna listen to it. Yeah, yeah, awesome. Well, guys,

1235
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:16,560
Speaker 1: that one went a little long, so we're gonna end

1236
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: the show right here because you don't want to hear

1237
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: our voices anymore. Um, what do you look like you're

1238
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 1: about to say something? You need something to say. No,

1239
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 1: like you said, nobody wants to hear our voices. Okay,

1240
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,640
Speaker 1: my voice, that's better, all right, Tiffany, Thank you so

1241
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 1: much for being on the show, and thank you so

1242
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: much for listening. You can always review, subscribe, rate all

1243
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 1: that kind of good stuff. Um. And also thanks for

1244
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 1: listening to the other show that I do, this Last Soviet,

1245
01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,479
Speaker 1: like yes, which is killing you. Yeah, it's like really

1246
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 1: killing it with us. Um. So The Last Soviet is

1247
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: my my scripted documentary podcast about uh Sarah and a cosmonaut.

1248
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: It's a very fascinating story about a guy who got

1249
01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: stuck in space for three d days. Crazy it is,

1250
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 1: but it's beautiful the way that they put the sound effects,

1251
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 1: and it's just it's one of those that you want

1252
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: to listen to at the gym, are going to sleep.

1253
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:09,919
Speaker 1: It kind of just rocks you. Yeah. The narrator's voice

1254
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: is kind of annoying, but like once you get past that,

1255
01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:15,959
Speaker 1: like the first few minutes, you'll get used to it. Wow. Wow,

1256
01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: well you have made it the number one documentary podcast

1257
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 1: in the world and the number fourteen show in the world,

1258
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,320
Speaker 1: which is our com Yeah, so thank you for listening.

1259
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 1: All right, guys, and thank you so much for listening

1260
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: to this particular show. Be good to each other, don't

1261
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,519
Speaker 1: drink and drive, take care of those animals, and always

1262
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: remember stay frosted. Hey, thanks for listening. Follow us on

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Speaker 1: Instagram at Frosted Tips with Lance and Michael church in

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