1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian. I was watching Dr Phil the other 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: day and he was talking about diagnosing somebody's mental state, 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: and I liked his approach. He kind of does what 4 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: I do um differential diagnosis. He's looking for the difference 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: of good versus bad. So sometimes knowing what's good tells 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:35,919 Speaker 1: you what's bad. That's a bag the car Doctor. If 7 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:37,919 Speaker 1: somebody says, well, I think it's this, or I think 8 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: it's that, thinking isn't diagnosing. Thinking is a guess. I 9 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: diagnosed it to this. That's a diagnosis. Welcome to the 10 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron and Anian, the Car Doctor. 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It was laying away from the block. 38 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: You could see that the tensioner itself had some wobble 39 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: to it, and when I took it apart, I found 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: that the bolt itself was starting to shear and fall 41 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: it away or loose from its mounting support. Took it 42 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: apart the entire way. It took the water pump, pull 43 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: you out the alternator and and snake the tensioner out 44 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: to look into there's a ten by one to five 45 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: thread pitch bolt that goes into the block and looking 46 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: in the hole where the bolt goes, Yeah, they're supposed 47 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: to be threads in there, like oops, Um, isn't that 48 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: a problem? And at first I said no, they couldn't 49 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: be this stupid to make you know this a critical 50 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 1: mounting areas such as this part of the block, like, okay, 51 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: maybe part of a cover you have to replace a cover. No, 52 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: it's it's actually cast into the block. It is an 53 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: all aluminum block, Honda Civic, and they actually cast the 54 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: threads for the surf belt tensioner right into it. So 55 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: and after some reading, I did some reading about this, 56 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: and we've talked about this on other vehicles before. Um, yeah, 57 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: there's a bolting out for this certain uh. I think 58 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: GO four or five six Civics have this issue where 59 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: the bolt starts to loosen up and shear and they 60 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: want to change the belt routing. Um, some of the 61 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: things you imagine that Honda made a mistake. How could 62 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: that happen? I told how this cars were perfect and 63 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: you know, so forth. But now what do you do? 64 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: You've got all You've got a bolt that has to 65 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: go into a hall that has no threads, and a 66 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: car that only has a hundred and fifteen thousand miles 67 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: on it, that's, you know, twelve thirteen years old. So 68 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: what do you do? Swing a motor? There's no way 69 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: to get a drill in there. You want to drill 70 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: it out to the next size and do a hilly 71 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: coil is where my mind went, And I said, well, 72 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: I can't really do that because I'd have to lower 73 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: the engine. I don't know. I can't lower the engine. 74 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: I can't get it out this way. I can't. I 75 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: have to pull the engine out of the car. And 76 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: it seems like an awful lot of work for something 77 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: like this. I wonder what happens if I grind the 78 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: end of the tap just to touch, just sort of 79 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: narrow it down in the nose a little bit, and 80 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: you know, take a chance. It's already broke. I can't 81 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: break it anymore than it's already is. It's broken. Um, 82 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: And I wonder if I just and if the aluminum, 83 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,720 Speaker 1: the aluminum is so soft aluminum is just as a 84 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: soft metal. I wonder if the tap would find its 85 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 1: way and act as the drill and the tap. I'm 86 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: thinking to myself, sometimes the best repairs are the ones 87 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 1: that you don't think about. They're the ones that you 88 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 1: just say, you know, you know, right right to the 89 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: wall and just let's just make it happen late in 90 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 1: the day on a Friday. It's you know what Hannibal 91 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: on the A team would say, living on the jazz 92 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: actually be A would say, it's the jazz Man, but 93 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: you get it. It's um, it's it's just the way 94 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: you work under five. I started this, it didn't seem 95 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:03,720 Speaker 1: like it was It seemed like it was too early 96 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: to go home, especially on a Friday. Ha ha. And 97 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: I ran the tap in and I wiggled it and 98 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 1: pulled it back out and shot a little air in 99 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: there and a little cleaner and a little more penetrating oil, 100 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: a little more cutting oil, shot the tap back in 101 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: again and working with a small quarter inch wrench to 102 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: turn the tap head because there's no room. There's absolutely 103 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: no room in this. After about forty five minutes of 104 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: in out, clean, in out, clean, kind of a repetitive process, 105 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: actually made a hole all the way down to the bottom. 106 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: I Um, I tapped the hole right down, clean, right 107 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: to the bottom, got out all the schmutz or all 108 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: the non technical parlance, the bad metal, and I had 109 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: an empty hall. Now I gotta get a heely coil 110 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 1: in here in an area where I don't have much 111 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: more room than the size of my fist. How am 112 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: I gonna do that? Well, they give me this a 113 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: heely coil. For those of you may not know, a 114 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: healey coil is like a spring with threads on both sides. 115 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 1: You ever looking at a spring like what you might 116 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: find in a fountain pen. I'm dating myself here. Um. 117 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: You know, if if a spring was real close together, 118 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: the inside diameter would have a certain thread pitch to it, 119 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: and that becomes the thread for the bolt to attach 120 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: itself to. A hilly coil is made specifically out of 121 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: a hardened steel so that it will embed itself into 122 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 1: the product and and grab and also give strength and support. 123 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: We've really coiled things for years, spark plug, cylinder blocks. Uh, 124 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: you know it works. Un wish I was the guy 125 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 1: that invented hilly coils. We wouldn't be here, Well, we'd 126 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: be here, we just would. We would own the radio industry. Um, 127 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: So I said, gee, how am I gonna do this? 128 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 1: Because they this big giant fixture. They want this adapter 129 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: and this turn buckle and this you know, and your 130 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: that will never fit. Well. You know, when you're dangling 131 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: by one hand seventies stories up, you might as well 132 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: just take off a few fingers and really just you know, 133 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: call it all and just go right to the max. 134 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: I threw away the guide fixture. I said, listen, at 135 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: this point, I'm hoping the tap kept me square because 136 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: it's aluminum, it's soft enough. And doing it by hand, 137 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: the tap, you would hope would follow the diameter or 138 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,680 Speaker 1: the bore or the square of the contrasticity, whatever word 139 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: you want to look at, of the whole. In other words, 140 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: the tool will do the work. Because you're doing it 141 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 1: by hand. You just gotta have slow, easy hands and 142 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: take your time. Let's see what the helly coil does. 143 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: I've got the threads, put a drop of liquid wrench 144 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: on the outside of the threads and took just the 145 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: center punch the center driver and slowly, I mean, you know, 146 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: started it by hand a couple of times, and that 147 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: doesn't feel right. Take the tap, run it back in 148 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: a couple of times, started up by hand. Take the tap. 149 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: You know, it probably took me an hour and a 150 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: half to get this heally coil in the hole. When 151 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 1: I was done, hey, look at that. I got threads. 152 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: I got threads in an engine block. Maybe I saved 153 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: this kid an engine Maybe. Now the problem is the 154 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: bolt has been and I said, well, let me see 155 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: what happens if I thread this in. I threaded it 156 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: in and it goes in and the serat belt tensioner 157 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: sits flush against the block so it lines up. It works, 158 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: but there's a little bit of a a notch in 159 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: the way the tension or pivots. And my my thought 160 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: is because the bolt's got a little bit of whank 161 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: to it, that it's it's loading the tension er in 162 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: one direction not the other. So after this week, I'm 163 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: gonna we're we're taking some mental health time this week 164 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: coming up, and we're gonna have a staycation at the house, 165 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: um and just think about fixing cars instead of actually 166 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: fixing cars. But when we get back from staycation, I 167 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: have to go find a ten millimeter one and a 168 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: quarter thread pitch bolt that's roughly two and a quarter 169 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: inches long with an alan head on it um roughly 170 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: eight millimeter in size. How hard could this be? And 171 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: you know, thread it in we should be good. But 172 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,200 Speaker 1: look at the look at the shallow thinking of the 173 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: engineers at Honda and once again proving that it's not 174 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: about the quality of the cards. It's it's really about 175 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: it's really about let's just build something and get it 176 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: out there. You know, I've noticed it of late a 177 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: lot of the manufacturers is not just on the Toyota 178 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,440 Speaker 1: does it, GM does it, Ford does it. They're casting 179 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: the aluminum blocks to save weight, have been for years, 180 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 1: and they're putting what I call critical let's take that too, 181 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: they're casting critical component threads right into the block. Toyota 182 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: does it with drive axles, the right side drive axle 183 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,559 Speaker 1: on cameras, the right side drive axle bolts to a support, 184 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: has a support going through it. That support bolts to 185 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: the engine block. If that support ear breaks off, hey 186 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: you're done, all right. You have to be careful taking 187 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: drive axles out. When new cars really become throwaway, is 188 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: it the mechanics fault or are they really just becoming 189 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: throwaway by virtue of what they are? Because there's something 190 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:04,319 Speaker 1: as you just can't rebuild the future of mechanics is 191 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: going to be left to people with steady hands, calm mines, 192 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: and clear thinking, and that time is really now. And 193 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: then sometimes as a mechanic, you're gonna find that you're 194 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: hanging by one hand seventies stories up. Sometimes you gotta 195 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: take a couple of fingers off and hang by one 196 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 1: finger and say, you know what, it's already broke. What 197 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: can I do to fix it? And that's that's gonna 198 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: be the skilled craftsman of the future, the guy that says, hey, 199 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: can I fix what can't be fixed? And how well 200 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: does that come out? Just food for thought. Be careful 201 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: when you're buying Honda's shame on you, Honda Motor Car. 202 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: Have to throw away a car just because it's got 203 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: anyway zero The car Doctor is coming back right after this, 204 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: whether it's a little red Corvette or you go, you've 205 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: come to the right place to get that car fixed. 206 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: Nay in the car doctor five five five zero zero zero. 207 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 1: Now back to on, Hey, let's get over fut to 208 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 1: Rick and Phoenix. Oh eight hounday accent, And so I'm 209 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 1: knocking around Rick, Welcome to the car Doctor. Sir, how 210 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: can I help? All right? Ron, good to talk to you. 211 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm fans Thank you for taking my call. Very welcome, 212 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: Thank you. What's going on? Okay? So I I bought 213 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:26,199 Speaker 1: an oh eight hunday Accent about a year ago, and UM, 214 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: since then, I've been kind of fighting with it on 215 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: and off when I want, when I feel like working 216 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: on that. But UM, it has a predetonation condition and 217 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: it has no it's not showing any codes. UM. I've 218 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: replaced many parts associated with fuel and timing, and UM. 219 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: At this point, I'm I'm thinking that what I have 220 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 1: because when I bought it, I only had twenty six 221 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: thousand miles on it, and it's a ten year old car. 222 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: That's the lack of driving of the previous owner has 223 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: built up some carbon in the engine. And I'm thinking 224 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: I need to address it, probably in this way, which 225 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: I've done with fuel additives. But it's not gotten. It 226 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: hasn't gotten me anywhere. So let me ask you, just 227 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: out of curiosity. Does it doesn't have an oil consumption issue? Doesn't? No? Okay, 228 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: oil it's you. You're you're checking it in between changes 229 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: and it doesn't burn any oil? No, okay? What what 230 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: what brand and octana fuel are you using. I'm using 231 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: Costco and uh, I stick with the seven. Um if 232 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: I go to ninety two with which they offer, it 233 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: gets better, but it doesn't go completely away. Um happened 234 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: to look You have a scan tool if you've been 235 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: able to look at fuel trim at all. I did 236 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: look at fuel trimp UM, and I did not see 237 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 1: anything out of the ordinary. Okay, Um, everything seemed completely 238 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: normal in that area. Which is the only other thing 239 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: I would look at is um, well, a couple of things. UM. 240 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 1: And I've just because you're in a hot part of 241 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: the country. Um, all the air and I'm sure this 242 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: is true, but all the air intake ducting is in 243 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:25,079 Speaker 1: place and correct position. Yes, Okay, you know I've seen Yeah, 244 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I've gone around and listen and 245 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: felt and I've even you know, gone around sprays and stuff. 246 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a very limited hose. It's just one 247 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: small hose that goes from the air cleaner and sort 248 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: of because i've seen, you know, with with the way 249 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: they route you know, intake ducks today they want air 250 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: from a specific source, and I've seen a few where 251 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: there's open intake ducks before mass airflow sensors or some 252 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: sort of airflow sensor and and I've seen the warmer 253 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: air create issues of detonation and changed away the vehicle operates. 254 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, then I'm I'm right there with you. It 255 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: sounds like a carbon deposit issue. You don't have access 256 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: to a poor scope by chance, do you. No, But 257 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: they're pretty cheap. I've been thinking about getting one. Probably 258 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: they're like, right, well, I'm not sure the one I have. 259 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: Uh so you kind of you kind of you kind 260 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: of got me there, bro Um. However, with my with mine, um, 261 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: you can actually use mine to probe around the inside 262 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: of your mouth and look at your feelings. Don't ask 263 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: me how I know that. Um, it is surgical grade, 264 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,160 Speaker 1: so I can I can actually see the grains of 265 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: the carbon. Yeah, that's well, because you know, it's if 266 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: you're doing it for a living. Do you want to 267 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: just see I think that's you know. This isn't like 268 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 1: looking at pictures of the Mars rocks. Well I I 269 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: think that's a piece of a wing of an airplane 270 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: or is that really a rock on Mars that we 271 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: saw this week in the news. No, this is you know, 272 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: I want it down to the grains. I want to 273 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: see actual deposit of carbon, and you know, I want 274 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: to see it before and then after I do a 275 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: carbon cleaning. I want to see it gone. Um. You 276 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: know there are things in between. You know, there's still 277 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: but I haven't seen anything for twenty bucks. I haven't 278 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: seen anything for twenty bucks that doesn't work. I haven't 279 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: seen anything for twenty bucks. In the way of board scopes. 280 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: I think the cheapest boord scope I've seen is probably 281 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: in the neighborhood of two to fifty and it's a 282 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: very pixelated, granulated looking kind of shot, which is why 283 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 1: you know I went for the bigger money. Um, but 284 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: you know, it would be nice to have a board 285 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: scope shot before and after. At least it tells you 286 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: if you're going in the right direction. UH. Fuel system cleaning. 287 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: Nothing better than Barriman for a poor in additive in 288 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: the tank. The hest technology is right there. It's still 289 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: cutting edge. You can find it at your local Oreillyoto 290 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: parts and if you want to go further, you know 291 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: and obviously follow the directions on the can more information 292 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 1: at Barriman Products dot com. If you want to go further, 293 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: then you've got to go talk to your mechanic and 294 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: get some sort of a formal carbon cleaning, top end 295 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: solution repair done to it. But I would definitely exhaust 296 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: the potential of carbon deposits before I looked any further. 297 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: The fact that, you know, using a ninety two or 298 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: nine the three octane fuel just makes it a little 299 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: bit better, but not a lot. You know. Yeah, I'm 300 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: kind of inclined to think it's carbon deposits. You brought 301 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: this car what two years ago with twenty six thousand 302 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: miles on it? With twenty six thousand miles on it? Yeah, 303 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: so what did it go to? Sixty miles a year? 304 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: Miles a year? Okay, I'll get it. Um yeahred miles 305 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 1: a year, you know, And you know, stupid question, But 306 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: there is no such thing. Any chance it was used 307 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: as a night watchman security vehicle kind of a thing. 308 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: Uh No, I think it was privately owned. All right. 309 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: Um here's the kicker. I only drive about hundred miles 310 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: a year. Oh boy, Um, when when you when you 311 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: get when you get down to a rally Oto parts 312 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: for the Berryman fuel system aditive, ask yeah, ask them 313 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: if there's asking if there's a discount for case lots. Um. 314 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: You know, here's another for you if you've got a second. 315 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: So I've been listening. I've been listening to another show 316 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: and UH on online and the guy was talking about 317 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: a customer he had who's been putting fuel addedives in 318 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: with every fill up and he's and he's gone through 319 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: four fuel pumps. Have you heard of this before? No? 320 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: That that that I that I haven't seen. I can't imagine, 321 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: you know, how caustic that product would be. Now, my 322 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: question would be, what are the directions on that can 323 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: or bottle say? If they say safe to use it 324 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: every fill up, and guess what it's safe to use 325 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: it every fillip. If they say use once every three months, 326 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: then you better use it once every three months. There's 327 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: there's you know, the auto repair industry is a lot 328 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: like the military, all right, the scuttle butt and the 329 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: rumors and the stories that are always floating around in 330 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: the air. You know, when when the green flag drops, 331 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: the BS stops because it's it's time to really you know, 332 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: here's what's really going on. Um, anytime somebody says something 333 00:17:58,480 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: like that to me, Hey, we went through four fuel 334 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: pumps using a fuel tank additive prove it to me. 335 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: Show me where that's written. I'd like to really see that, 336 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,399 Speaker 1: because if that was my vehicle, I'd be writing to 337 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,960 Speaker 1: the manufacturer saying, you guys owe me four fuel pumps. Um, 338 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 1: I don't buy that. I again, what are the directions 339 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: on the bottle side? Use that berryman, try a formal 340 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: carbon cleaning, give yourself a better board scope. Let me 341 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 1: know what happens. Rick. I appreciate the conversation, and uh, 342 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: thank you for being there. Zero zero the car doctors 343 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: cruising back right after this. Don't go away back coming 344 00:18:41,240 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: back then? All right, body, Hey, welcome backt octorate five 345 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,959 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. Let's get on over and 346 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 1: talk to Scott and Maine sixty nine Chavell and some 347 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 1: rebuilding questions. Scott, welcome to the car doctor, Sir, how 348 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: can help rebuild this classic? Scott? Yes, from my excurity 349 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: buoying a beautiful state of me sir, Yes, sir, everything 350 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: from everything is branded when uh from the brake lines 351 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: to the calipers, wheel Sylaunders. And on this one on 352 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: which you UH recommend for a break fluid in that 353 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 1: new system I've used. I used silicone in the hot 354 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: rod Um at the time, and I'm going back a 355 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 1: couple of three or four years, there was a product, 356 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: and the name is the brand Escapes. I mean I 357 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 1: could find it and talk about it next week. But 358 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: there was a brand out there that had two different 359 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: colored break fluids. One was red and one was blue. 360 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: And the idea was that if you ever flushed it 361 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: and changed it, the way you would know it was 362 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: changed would be that, you know, you started with red 363 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: and ended up with all blue, and then you started 364 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 1: with blue and ended up with all red. And I 365 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: thought it was a great idea. Uh you know, as 366 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I've got I've got blue in 367 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: there right now, and I've got one can of red left. 368 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,719 Speaker 1: And the reason I say left is because somebody got 369 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: ahold of this idea and said, oh no, we can't 370 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: have red brake fluid. It would confuse the people that 371 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: are too stupid to read the bottle and maybe think 372 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: it was transfluid, so they banned it. Um it's no 373 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,160 Speaker 1: longer available, which you know, it just goes to show 374 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 1: you how we're stupidifying America. Um. But I like the 375 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: idea of silicone. I think I think it's especially on 376 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:36,440 Speaker 1: something that's gonna sit at the very least dot four. Um, okay, 377 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: I wanted to use a silicone just so I know 378 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't eat up the team. Well yeah, yeah, yeah, 379 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: I get that. And I'm you know, bleeding as a nightmare. 380 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 1: And you know you've got to take the wheels down 381 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: and put rags everywhere, and and you're gonna do that anyway. 382 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: You're gonna do that. You know. The cousticness of regular 383 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: dot for is just as bad too. What did you 384 00:20:54,840 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 1: use for brake lines? Stainless steel are regular? Okay? Um? 385 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: Are you prepared for the leaks? There's no other way 386 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: to ask that question. Um uh yeah. I I did 387 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 1: stainless on the hot rod, and I don't know that 388 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: I would do it again. I mean, it's great and 389 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: it's nice, but boy, i'll tell you what. You'll get 390 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: that fitting as tight as a drum and it's still leaks, 391 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: and you're like, what am I doing wrong? Um? One 392 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: of the tricks I learned was that putting a drop 393 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,679 Speaker 1: of oil on the threads of the line before I 394 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: put it into the fitting, it just seemed to give 395 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: it a little bit more glide and I could get 396 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: it firmly seated into the adapter of the fitting or 397 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: the master or the wheel cylinder wherever it was going, 398 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: and that repaired the leak. But I had a couple 399 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: of leeks putting it together. I had a couple of 400 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: small issues to deal with. It just seems like stainless, doesn't, 401 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: you know, because that stainless seat, you know when you 402 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: when you when you make the double flare at the 403 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: end of the line, you know that stainless seat doesn't 404 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: crush into the brass is easy because it's so hard 405 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: and you know it just but I get it. You 406 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: know what stainless is nice. It's it just looks gorgeous stuff. Um, 407 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: I think that there was I think there's one line 408 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,879 Speaker 1: on black that I didn't make in stainless. I forget 409 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: which one. You can't really tell. If I look at it, 410 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 1: I can figure it out. But I ended up just 411 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: I ended up just stroking the line clean and I 412 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: cleared it. I put some clear lacquer on it, and 413 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: you know, it'll it'll never corrode. It'll it'll be like 414 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: that forever. Uh, you know, just because how often you're 415 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,239 Speaker 1: really gonna drive it, You're not gonna take it out 416 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: in the winters of Maine. Um you know so yeah, 417 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: so um quick question. UM, I'm looking to upgrade my 418 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: scan tool right now. I had a software on the 419 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: laptop and it's actually in the name of its scan 420 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: tool and wondering if you know, stick with another software 421 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: it was so launch or how much money do I 422 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: have to spend her reckoning? How much money do we 423 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: have to spend? Yeah? Um, under four or five. I'll 424 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: take a look at the Launch stuff. I forget their 425 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: models of the millenniums um. I believe they're millenniums. But 426 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: the Launch product is good stuff. Their latest, their latest. 427 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: I think the millennium nineties is what they are, and 428 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: I think they're in that four very nice scan tool. Um. 429 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: But you know, when it comes to scan tools. The 430 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: other thing I always think about two is I always 431 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: think about the shop that's selling that older tool that 432 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: maybe as a couple of three years old and they 433 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: don't need it anymore and they want to upgrade to 434 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: the next greatest thing. And I tend to look on 435 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: eBay and you know, what can I buy out there? 436 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: What can I buy out there? In the way of 437 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: a snap on, It's probably more than a four, But 438 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: then how many more features do you want, you know, 439 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,360 Speaker 1: do you want if you want vehicles specific, if you 440 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: want to be able to do some special function tests, 441 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 1: some exact function tests, you know, and you know, maybe 442 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: it's the unfortunately you got to spend to grant you 443 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: just restored a sixty nine Chavelle. You know what it 444 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: is to spend money on a car. It's just part 445 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: of the process. Um, yeah, lot longer than you. You know, 446 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 1: you can always tell card people when you go out 447 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: to eat, because if you look around the restaurant, the 448 00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: guy with the most expensive meal, it doesn't seem to 449 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: really it doesn't really seem to know himount. Um, that's 450 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 1: the guy that just restored a car, fixed the car. 451 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: You know, he just he just just I don't know, 452 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: they just they just have a different you know, like 453 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:28,800 Speaker 1: yeah whatever, just you know, give my food, I want 454 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: to eat, let me alone. Um, but I would look 455 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: at that too. You know. There's a lot of snap 456 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: on scan tools up on eBay or maybe you catch 457 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: the local snap on guy. He took something in on trade. 458 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: And even if it is too grand, how much more 459 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: of a tool is it than some of the smaller 460 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 1: generic tools. And you know that to me to me, 461 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: that's a whole market. I've said this to my snap 462 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: on guy more than a few times. I think they're 463 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: missing the market. I think that's uh. I think that's 464 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 1: a heck of an opportunity for him. Uh. You know 465 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: that too, you know, right? Well, and then there's that 466 00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: so how much longer life? You know, if if you 467 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: buy it for two grant and you get another three 468 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: years out of it, and it's it's a it's a 469 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 1: nine update to get another year out of it after that, 470 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, now you got four or five years out 471 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: of a tool. You know, people look at scan tools 472 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: and they're saying, well, I don't understand why I bought 473 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: this two years ago and now it's obsolete. Do you 474 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: know how much technology developed in that two years? Um? 475 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: I am quick. Yeah. You know. I had lunch this 476 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: week with someone we were talking about he was he 477 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 1: was a stockbroker guy, and we were talking about technology, 478 00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: and somehow we got on the subject. It was a 479 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: casual conversation, but somehow we got on the subject of technology, 480 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: and he said, did you ever stop to think that 481 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: technology stocks today are in their infancy? He said, imagine 482 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: we were gonna be a hundred years from now. And 483 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: you know he's right. You know it's we're not gonna 484 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,679 Speaker 1: have cell phones. We're gonna wear a bracelet or a 485 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: necklace that's gonna shoot a holographic image up with a keypad, 486 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go, I want to call Tom Ray 487 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna dial his phone number right right in 488 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 1: the air, and then I'm gonna be looking at Tom's face, 489 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: which might be scary, but um, the idea would be that, 490 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's you won't need a cell phone anymore. 491 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: It's gonna be all So you know, imagine, look at 492 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: what's in cars for crying out loud, look at the 493 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: technology that's there. Um, you know you can tell you now, 494 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 1: I can tell how many computers a car has because 495 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: I've got the same generic O B D twol tool 496 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: O B D two tool hanging by the shop door 497 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: real quick, and I'll plug it into a Corolla and 498 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: I'll watch it boot up and here it comes looking 499 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 1: for the computer and okay, I've found it. And then 500 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: the camera comes in the door and you have to 501 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: look at cod's real quick and you plug it in 502 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: a fast you can say that's in bam and there 503 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 1: it is and it's updated the screen and there's all 504 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: the processors and it's like and you're like, wow, look 505 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 1: at the speed, look at the look at the power 506 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: of the can bus and look at how fast it's 507 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: rolling along. Uh, you know there's that that's got to 508 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: be worth a scan tool upgrade just for the sake 509 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: of doing it. Um So anyway, that's the deal, all right, 510 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 1: Just silicon break fluid, be careful what you do, and 511 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,479 Speaker 1: take a look at those other scan tools and more 512 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: information obviously online snap on tools dot com eight five 513 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero. Ronading the Car Doctor coming back 514 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: right after this. Have what's more fun than listening to 515 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: ronading in the Car Doctor and getting that car fixed? Right? 516 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: Eight five five five zero zero zero Give Ron a 517 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: call now back to Ron. Hey, let's get over and 518 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: talk to Dan Detroit O three four three fifty diesel 519 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: and some power window and radio problems. Dan. Welcome to 520 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Hello sir, How are you good? Sir? 521 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: What's going on? Just wondering what's sailing my old truck? Um? 522 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: When you when you lose you lose radio and power 523 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: window operation. Do you happen to notice does the dashboard 524 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 1: illumination go out. No, everything else works, Okay, you're sure? 525 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 1: Uh you know what? Not not the operation of the dash, 526 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: but the illuminating shan the illumination lighting. I can't be sure. 527 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: I can't be sure. I know the clock on the 528 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,120 Speaker 1: radio goes blank unless I turn the lights on. Then 529 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: I get the dim display. Okay, yeah, so let's do this. 530 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,639 Speaker 1: I want you to hook a scan tool up for 531 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: this problem, all right. I know that's not easy for everybody, 532 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 1: but I'm looking for specific fault codes. Um. There are 533 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: more than a few that tell the tale. I'll tell 534 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: you where this is gonna end up, um, for example, 535 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: and I won't blow you away with technicality. If this 536 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: has a B thirty two and to keep alive memory, 537 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: this could very well be a bad instrument cluster causing 538 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,480 Speaker 1: the radio and power windows not to work. All right, 539 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: So there's some very specific repair procedures about checking power 540 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: on grounds to the cluster, and then the cluster itself 541 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: has to be replaced. Uh, there are some there are 542 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: some other things. What what what happens is the instrument 543 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 1: cluster provides power and control to the accessory delay relay, 544 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: which accessory delay relay say that three times fast, which 545 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: supplies power to the power windows switch and the radio. 546 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 1: All right, So, so the way this is gonna work 547 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: is if the cluster checks out, good, let's go to 548 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: the delay relay, which I believe is in the underhood 549 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: battery box. If the delay relay is providing power to 550 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: the radio and power switch, then then you've got the 551 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: unique problem of having two separate component failures on the 552 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: same circuit that have nothing to do with each other. 553 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,959 Speaker 1: But I don't think that's gonna be the case. I 554 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: think this is gonna be a conversation where I think 555 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 1: the cluster is gonna be bad. Uh. You know, if 556 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: we look at if we look at forty plus cases, 557 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: thirty of them are bad clusters, two of them are 558 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: bad um uh fuse box issues, and the rest get 559 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: down into minutia. All right, guy, huh, So yeah, you 560 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: gotta start with a scan and you know what, it's 561 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of an involved repaired. You got a 562 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 1: pencil um Ron at car Doctor show dot com. All right, 563 00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: you send me an email saying, hey, Ron, it's me 564 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: Dan from Detroit. I will dig into the database and 565 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: I will I will send you a step by step 566 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: diagnostic routine about the laws of probability and what this 567 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: takes be advised. If it does need an instrument cluster, 568 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: it has to be programmed with a Ford factory tool it. 569 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: All right. So there's a little bit of work that 570 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: has to be done here. But this is a very 571 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: common problem with these vehicles, and you know of the 572 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: time it's a cluster. All right, So let's do that, 573 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: all right, kiddo, Thank you, You're very welcome. Good luck, 574 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: And like I said, let's shot me an email. Let's 575 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: go over to ran in California at Ninissan Maxima and 576 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: some questions about suspension. What can I do for you? Run? Yeah, 577 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 1: so I put new struts all the way around on 578 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: this car. I'm an litle high rod guy, but I'm 579 00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 1: working on a Nissan for a friend. And uh, the 580 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: problem is it's got on the rear strut. You pull 581 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: the rear seat out and you can see the top 582 00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: of it, and when the suspension cycles, whether with a 583 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: jack or if you're driving it down the street, that 584 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: strut rod is actually moving, uh maybe half to three 585 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: quarters of an inch, and I can hear it rubbing, 586 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,560 Speaker 1: and then it kind of clunks as it gets all 587 00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: the way to the top and it clunks a game 588 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,239 Speaker 1: when it gets all the way to the bottom, so 589 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: it's it's it's traveling because it's not locked. Right. I 590 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,479 Speaker 1: can't find like a picture of an exploded view of 591 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: the shrut. It's just too old. Nobody's doing it on YouTube, 592 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: you know. And I hate to think that there was 593 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: already a peace missing when I got this wold junker. 594 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: But I put together all the stuff that I had, 595 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: with all the new parts of the game, with the 596 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: new shrut, and U maybe it's supposed to lock it 597 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: from underneath. Is this a stock strut run basically or 598 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,880 Speaker 1: is this a modified strut of some kind? It is 599 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: not a modified it's it's supposed to be a soccer replacement. 600 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: So it looks like it. Can't you go to like 601 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: have you tried looking for Nissan parts online and find 602 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,040 Speaker 1: a deller that's got a catalog online, it will show 603 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: a blow up of the strut. I haven't had any 604 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: any luck with a nine mm. I did find a couple, 605 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: but I mean they were they were so blurry and 606 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 1: terrible to look at. Yeah, yeah, and that's and that's 607 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: and that's the other problem, because it's you know, it's 608 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,520 Speaker 1: eighty nine it's it's it's more than a few years old. Um, 609 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: but there's not a single picture in that catalog that 610 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: is of the car I'm working on. I don't think. Yeah, 611 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: do this. Send me an email Ron at Car Doctors 612 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: Show dot Com. Alright, send me the seventeen digit vin. 613 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: I'm on vacation. I'm on vacation this week. I'll be 614 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: bored so I can look up car parts for you 615 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: and I'll send you back a reply. Okay, great, alright, brother, 616 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: take good care. Let me know bye bye, five zero 617 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 1: nine zero. The Car Doctor is coming back right after this. Hey, 618 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: welcome back. End of the Car Doctor. Let's go over 619 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: talk to Bob Phillisburg, New Jersey. Mr Bob, we have 620 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: two minutes. What's going on? Okay, in nineteen seventies, very 621 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: Volkswagon bust camper automatic transmission. I need to get clutches 622 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: and steals and bands and gascon set and everything else. 623 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: You've got any clues, No, And they're tough to find. 624 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: They really are. No kidding around, obviously. I'm gonna tell 625 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: you the search online. And you know that's number one. 626 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: There's a there's a bunch of places that everybody talks 627 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: about I never had any experience buying anything from them 628 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,479 Speaker 1: because I've never you know, I can't say I've ever 629 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: repaired to seventy three Volkswagen camper transmission. Um, but then again, 630 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: why would you need to bob if it's a camper. 631 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: Can't you just stay wherever the car is stuck and 632 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 1: just start living there? Isn't that the whole idea? They 633 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,840 Speaker 1: want to platau a beatle with this thing. Oh okay, 634 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: so they've really got the bug ha ha ha, no 635 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: fun attended. But anyway, Uh, you know, my concern is 636 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 1: is uh uh is there a self life with the gaskets, 637 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: the seals, you know, the clutch plates and everything else. Yeah, 638 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean there is, I but you know the other 639 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: you know, And then it's it's how well were they 640 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: stored and under what conditions? I think if if the 641 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: rubber is encased in some kind of plastic, it's you know, 642 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's okay. Uh, you won't know until you, 643 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,399 Speaker 1: you know, physically see it. But that's there all valid questions. Um, 644 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: there's got to be rebuilders out there. And I think 645 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 1: this is where the power of the Internet comes along. 646 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: It just makes life so much easier that, um, you know, 647 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 1: just some sourcing and researching and find maybe a Volkswagon 648 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: can't perform or Folkswagon transmission forum. And what's everybody else doing? 649 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: I always say to people when they're when when you're 650 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,760 Speaker 1: in this scenario, unless you're like me, you're not lucky 651 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 1: enough to be the first guy and only got to 652 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 1: have this problem for the first time. So there's somebody 653 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: else that's learned from your you know, from learned from 654 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: their mistakes, and they talk about it. So don't take 655 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 1: the skin knuckles. Use the power of the internet and 656 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: let it find it. Bob, I gotta go. I appreciate 657 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: the call, um and as always you keep them coming. 658 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: Hey real quick from the folks over at all Data 659 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: all data dot com. August is National break Month. I 660 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: like the recent article and the All Data the i 661 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: Y magazine about cost versus care explaining why certain cheap 662 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: break jobs don't really last and you want to do 663 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: the job right. More reading over there on the old 664 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: data dot com website, and thanks to them for that. 665 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: I'm running any in the car doctor till the next time. 666 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you