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Speaker 2: No, no, no, don't you want to tell people?
Speaker 1: Why?
Speaker 2: Well, I can't not even start over you.
Speaker 1: I have a temporary tooth in here. I had oral
Speaker 1: surgery yesterday. I'm on on medication so I can barely speak, think,
Speaker 1: keep my eyes open. But I'm doing this podcast. Lucky, lucky, y'all.
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Speaker 2: I'm just it's gonna be so good. You guys forgive him.
Speaker 2: He truly had surgery. Yeah, yeah, he didn't hit the bar.
Speaker 2: He didn't hit the bar before he came to the.
Speaker 1: Said yesterday, I had a tooth taken out and they
Speaker 1: put an implant in as well. So now and then
Speaker 1: I've kind of I've got I got a tooth replaceable too.
Speaker 1: I can take it in. Yeah, but that's just that's
Speaker 1: just for ten weeks until they get the permanent crime.
Speaker 2: My mom had to have that. Yeah, you have to
Speaker 2: do it like three you go three times or something.
Speaker 4: Ten weeks is a long time.
Speaker 1: Ten weeks to make the thing. Yeah, but anyway, so
Speaker 1: funny story, I did a I woke up after I
Speaker 1: got home. I crashed for a couple of hours, and
Speaker 1: I woke up and I was like, there was I
Speaker 1: don't want to gross anybody up, but there was. There's
Speaker 1: blood coming out of my mouth. So it's a streak
Speaker 1: of blood across my and then on my shoulder and
Speaker 1: on my pillow. And I woke up and my assistant
Speaker 1: Elaine texted me and said, this cameo is expiring in
Speaker 1: like thirty do I did it in that state and
Speaker 1: I and I hit send and she you caught it.
Speaker 1: And she's like, she texted me this morning. She goes,
Speaker 1: I hope you don't get mad. But I got with
Speaker 1: the cameo. People said you got to take that down.
Speaker 1: That can't be published because he's like way out of
Speaker 1: it man, And I said, well, send me the video.
Speaker 1: So she sent me the video. It's the funniest thing.
Speaker 5: You please post it?
Speaker 2: Can we please post it on Instagram? Please?
Speaker 1: No? I think it's I think that kind of thing
Speaker 1: is tantamount to, like, you know, showing your junk on.
Speaker 5: You do not want that to fall into the wrong hands.
Speaker 1: Wait, so that's not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, did they get it or did it make it
Speaker 4: to them?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 4: Did they see it?
Speaker 1: They didn't get it. But but but Elaine got in
Speaker 1: touch with them and said, listen, we're going to get
Speaker 1: he has surgery, so can you give them an extension?
Speaker 1: They were cool enough to do that, And I made
Speaker 1: a good one today. I mean, I have this thing
Speaker 1: in my mouth. I sounds kind of funny, but but anyway,
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Speaker 2: Scott can't put two words together. But he got his
Speaker 2: plug perfect.
Speaker 1: But I got the plug perfect, right, I perked up.
Speaker 1: That's now I'm tired. I'm gonna go to take a nap,
Speaker 1: amy take off.
Speaker 2: So, okay, before you sleep, you did not love this episode?
Speaker 1: Mmm, Look, it depends on how you what you want
Speaker 1: out of the show. What you know, Different people want
Speaker 1: different things out of the show. What I want out
Speaker 1: of the show is I like, I like my chuckles,
Speaker 1: I like I like the laugh. For me, the power
Speaker 1: of the show is getting the great laughs. And I
Speaker 1: got some good.
Speaker 2: Laught a couple. Yeah, yeah, I agree, you know.
Speaker 1: And so I don't want to I don't want to
Speaker 1: rag on the show too bad, but I mean, I don't.
Speaker 2: Get it out of the way so that we can
Speaker 2: talk about the episode. Let's just address quickly the assault,
Speaker 2: the cultural appropriation, so that we've we've addressed that at
Speaker 2: the top, so that as we talk about the episode,
Speaker 2: we maybe can talk about it without having to feel
Speaker 2: cringey over this salt.
Speaker 1: I mean, luke bashing. That's actually battery. That's not assault.
Speaker 1: It was I battered him.
Speaker 2: It was not cool.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was super cursed. It was super cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's recap. I mean, let's uh, let's synopsizepis.
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, good call, Suzanne. You sure I'll do it.
Speaker 5: This is season seven, episode two. That's what you get,
Speaker 5: folks from making whoopee. It aired on October third, two
Speaker 5: thousand and six. Wanting to cheer Rory up and take
Speaker 5: her mind off missing Logan. Lorelei turns her house into
Speaker 5: an Asian themed wonderland, meanwhile repairing the damage to the diner.
Speaker 5: Luke tells TJ about his breakup and insists on him
Speaker 5: talking about it with Liz, and Luke returns from her
Speaker 5: disastrous honeymoon with surprising news.
Speaker 1: Now, who in a million years ever thought that they
Speaker 1: would witness an episode of this very fine show where
Speaker 1: one of the most beloved and funny and endearing characters
Speaker 1: sits there and says, I hate sex. I hate sex.
Speaker 1: I hate sex, and now I'm pregnant and I hate
Speaker 1: sex even more than I hate sex. I hate hate sex,
Speaker 1: sex as awful as gross. I hate sex.
Speaker 7: It's never happening again.
Speaker 1: It was like, what did the pharmacist give me post
Speaker 1: surgery on my truth? Am I really witnessing this?
Speaker 2: Did anybody else feel like the episode was so disjointed?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that was my problem.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm a fan of this episode.
Speaker 2: It had like a few moments where I'm like, I'm driving,
Speaker 2: I like, I like my Gilmore girls, And then I
Speaker 2: was like, is this twelve different episodes?
Speaker 4: I think?
Speaker 7: Also, of course they made Lane pregnant like of course, right,
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I'm just like, and she got pregnant in two days.
Speaker 7: Lane's whole storyline throughout this entire series has just made
Speaker 7: me so dumbfounded.
Speaker 2: I'm just it's never been what it could have been.
Speaker 7: You, it could have been so much more.
Speaker 1: No, I think what was truly odd about this episode
Speaker 1: right away? You know. I I I pushed my theory
Speaker 1: over the last few podcasts about how this show isn't
Speaker 1: capable of such a heavy lift as to break up
Speaker 1: Look and Laurel. I. Right, I think it proved it
Speaker 1: at the top of this, you know, because it was
Speaker 1: as if Luke was going through something and he was
Speaker 1: trying to gut it out and it was showing in
Speaker 1: his behavior towards TJ. And thank god for TJ, because boy,
Speaker 1: he provide some levity here. And then we cut to
Speaker 1: Laurel I, who's sort of matter of factly going about
Speaker 1: her life and she's got to get to work and
Speaker 1: it doesn't doesn't really seem to be affecting her very much,
Speaker 1: to the point where she's you know, pulls the the
Speaker 1: Geisha gag and the home and with all the five
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars worth of Autremont from Asia, and it
Speaker 1: was just like, what is happening here? And I know
Speaker 1: there was a you know when they meet and Luke's
Speaker 1: try and play it cool. But if she isn't deep word,
Speaker 1: did you? But the thing is, did you guys feel
Speaker 1: that Laurel I was so deeply affected by the break up.
Speaker 2: I thought the whole thing was so weird until the end.
Speaker 7: Until the end, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I thought the crosswalk scene was bizarre and the grocery
Speaker 2: store bizarre, like shot bizarrely in weird locations we've never
Speaker 2: seen before.
Speaker 7: Like I also didn't feel like a Gilmore Girls grocery
Speaker 7: store like that is Ralph's Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: It was Whole Foods in Bourbank, like.
Speaker 2: Just clearly driving through Sherman Oaks just like I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 2: driving scenes, there's like driving the truck close up, just
Speaker 2: are we in Encino yet? Like I just like.
Speaker 6: I think for me, the disconnect is that the b
Speaker 6: storyline with Lane just it shouldn't have been placed with
Speaker 6: this a storyline.
Speaker 4: I think that's what it is. Like if it was,
Speaker 4: it was, it's just different than the thing.
Speaker 6: Well, I agree, but I'm saying, if they want to
Speaker 6: put it somewhere. It shouldn't have been with this Luke
Speaker 6: Lorelei storyline.
Speaker 2: It should have been an A storyline too.
Speaker 1: It's an afterthought, right, it's right, And it's so tone
Speaker 1: for what the fans invested in, what they really want.
Speaker 1: It's like, Okay, if you're going to do this, try
Speaker 1: to do this heavy lift, then deal with it, deal
Speaker 1: with the relationship, deal with the fallout of it. There
Speaker 1: was really very little of that.
Speaker 2: And if you're going to do this amazing like pregnancy reveal,
Speaker 2: do it better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I agree with terror, don't do it at all.
Speaker 1: It didn't belong.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5: The only the only part of the episode that I
Speaker 5: even smiled at was the whole Kirk's diner.
Speaker 1: That was.
Speaker 5: And but that was such a small part of the episode.
Speaker 5: That was like the c storyline, Like.
Speaker 1: It was just so for me that it wasn't really
Speaker 1: executed very well either, because Luke is dealing with this
Speaker 1: his heavy heart and trying to get over it, and
Speaker 1: then he comes over and he's doing light comedy with
Speaker 1: Kirk and.
Speaker 2: It's unhinged about it.
Speaker 1: He wasn't right.
Speaker 2: It's like, let me grew up your paper.
Speaker 1: Right if you're if you're going to provoke. It's like,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. What kind of a show is it?
Speaker 1: What is it is?
Speaker 7: It is like Luke should have driven through his dining.
Speaker 2: Well, can we talk about the beginning where look, it
Speaker 2: was funny and also it was battery that Luke. So
Speaker 2: we see, So this is why I got confused. You
Speaker 2: start the episode with the recap of what happened, and
Speaker 2: you see him with the truck and she says, I
Speaker 2: slept with Christopher, and then we open on him driving away,
Speaker 2: which was kind of a nice sort of like moments
Speaker 2: later and we see him driving and driving and immediately
Speaker 2: you're like, I know where he is going. Knock knock,
Speaker 2: suck him in the in the face. I think about
Speaker 2: David Suckcliffe probably got his full episode b for just
Speaker 2: taking a punch. It's never in it again.
Speaker 1: You know what that scene was. That was an ending
Speaker 1: scene that wasn't a beginning. It was weird and also
Speaker 1: it was very odd that that scene happened. And then
Speaker 1: the theme song hits You're supposed to be happy, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 4: What I thought too.
Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know if you guys agree or not.
Speaker 6: I didn't mind it because I just feel like Christopher
Speaker 6: deserved that punch after like all that he's been through.
Speaker 6: But again, it should have been the end of episode
Speaker 6: one of season seven, not straight into the theme song,
Speaker 6: because then I kept actually rewound it because I'm like,
Speaker 6: where am I in this show?
Speaker 2: And he also hate to say it because I want
Speaker 2: to say, oh, Luke wouldn't do that, but Luke maybe
Speaker 2: kind of would.
Speaker 5: Do that, Luke beating up on Dean in that one episode.
Speaker 5: So it wasn't really that surprising.
Speaker 6: I just feel like it was a long time coming
Speaker 6: from everything that happened.
Speaker 4: It was like like he just was over I'd be
Speaker 4: over it too.
Speaker 2: That being said, I wasn't totally just crazy about it.
Speaker 2: It's like you go over to his house and just
Speaker 2: punch him in the face, and like, really and truly,
Speaker 2: if anyone was to blame, it was just opened.
Speaker 1: The door between guys. Okay, that was appropriate, that's a
Speaker 1: that's a guy thing. That means you have no respect.
Speaker 8: For me, doesn't pay.
Speaker 2: And we don't condone punching people in the.
Speaker 1: Face between guys. If there's disrespect on that level.
Speaker 2: At Berkeley, we don't love punching.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get whacked. It was.
Speaker 2: It was funny TV moment too, like there was something
Speaker 2: kind of amusing about it, but I agree it was
Speaker 2: it was placed in the wrong place.
Speaker 7: I did enjoy that Christopher just got knocked out and
Speaker 7: took it.
Speaker 8: He took it.
Speaker 5: He's like, yep, did he fall or he kind of still.
Speaker 2: Get closed the door. Now, how did you know where
Speaker 2: he lives? I was trying to sort of process that
Speaker 2: yellow page or white pages or like, did you actually
Speaker 2: know where he lives? I don't know how Luke would
Speaker 2: know where He's a good question, thank you, And he
Speaker 2: knew his apartment number.
Speaker 1: I had my trusty assistant Cato find out all right.
Speaker 2: So then then it was weird because we go to
Speaker 2: the house and Lorelei's all cute and or cute outfit
Speaker 2: kind of looking amazing, which I just don't think after
Speaker 2: a breakup you're going to look that amazing. I think
Speaker 2: you're gonna look like dog do but whatever, making the
Speaker 2: famous waffles, which then Rory put chocolate syrup and syrup on,
Speaker 2: which I was like, that sounds great.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of food this episode.
Speaker 2: There was, And then what kind of happens They talk
Speaker 2: about how he is this where she says he doesn't
Speaker 2: want me to come until December. Yeah, and she's super
Speaker 2: disappointed about the summer trip that she doesn't get to
Speaker 2: go to Asia, which you know leads to what happens, and.
Speaker 7: She sets that Lane is back from our honeymoon.
Speaker 2: Right. So it was kind of a fine scene. It
Speaker 2: was sort of getting us to a bunch of different
Speaker 2: plot points. Nothing where I'm like, other than.
Speaker 8: That, I don't put chocolate syrup on it.
Speaker 2: Did she make homemade waffles or a go waffles?
Speaker 5: I'm sure they were agos.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't think he always takes the easy way out.
Speaker 7: Her is probably homemade.
Speaker 2: I'm also noticing how much Rory Slash Alexis is older now.
Speaker 2: Is anyone else noticing that she's not a kid anymore?
Speaker 2: I noticed that multiple times throughout the episode, where almost
Speaker 2: Alexis looks like she looks now almost anyway.
Speaker 6: I also thought it was I think it kind of
Speaker 6: worked in the sense that, like she's home for college
Speaker 6: and she feels like, oh, I didn't know I was
Speaker 6: going to be here the whole time, Like she is
Speaker 6: so much older than the last time she was living
Speaker 6: in that town, so I didn't mind her like seeming older,
Speaker 6: but I get what you're saying, Amy, like you kind
Speaker 6: of just like have this realization like, oh, she's maybe anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you really start to notice it. Okay, So then
Speaker 2: we go to the diner and this was amusing. So
Speaker 2: we so we get TJ which was kind of fun.
Speaker 2: You know, he's drinking the coffee. He's outside the window
Speaker 2: with Luke, and then we we learned that Kirk's has opened,
Speaker 2: and then Kirk's gonna sue you, which I was like, Kirk, what,
Speaker 2: like you're gonna sue him for dry crashing right into
Speaker 2: the diner and amusing and with the shirt, all the
Speaker 2: little details were like I just I just.
Speaker 1: Want to say this and that's to be over serious.
Speaker 1: But it was the only time that I saw Kirk
Speaker 1: is kind of an opportunistic jerk.
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the guy can't run his business. He's just
Speaker 1: you know, broke up. It's like that would be the
Speaker 1: time for a Gilmore girl's character to come.
Speaker 2: To his aid, right, but he totally right.
Speaker 1: Like do something like you know, I mean to open
Speaker 1: up a look like you know what I'm saying. But
Speaker 1: it was just sort of like just a selfish thing
Speaker 1: where he's got to he saw an opening in the marketplace.
Speaker 1: It's it's just it was incongruous because it was two
Speaker 1: different types of shows trying trying to fuse themselves together.
Speaker 2: Especially because Kirk looks up to Luke so.
Speaker 1: Much, right, and it's like, if if you're gonna break
Speaker 1: these two up, deal with it, deal with it. Don't
Speaker 1: try to do jokey jokes all.
Speaker 2: But we're getting right. We're not dealing with it. That's
Speaker 2: the thing. Like they barely deal with it. Yeah, they
Speaker 2: don't deal with it, and they deal with it in
Speaker 2: such a strange way. That said, I did love all
Speaker 2: the details, the no cell phone sign, the Kirk's just
Speaker 2: like the mug. He's wearing the exact same shirt with
Speaker 2: the ball cap backwards. And somehow he has a liquor license, Like, wow,
Speaker 2: doesn't he serve alcohol?
Speaker 1: HETJ got a beer from Kirks. Yeah, see another odd,
Speaker 1: very odd detail. It was just strange.
Speaker 2: And all the town is there now. I did sort
Speaker 2: of love the outdoor cafe vibe of Kirks, and the
Speaker 2: whole town is eating there and he's cooking up stuff
Speaker 2: on the grill.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'd trust Kirk burgers.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he doesn't know. I'm sure he doesn't have
Speaker 2: the proper permittve.
Speaker 1: That might have been the strangest scene. That was the
Speaker 1: strangest scene.
Speaker 2: Oh no, I liked it. I think the sushi making
Speaker 2: and the discussion of like fried chicken, sushi, a meat loaf.
Speaker 1: Again, that's another strange scene we go.
Speaker 2: To that megs We're at the Dragonfly. Sukis showing Laura
Speaker 2: how to make sushi and she wants meatloafs sushi, fried chicken, sushi,
Speaker 2: peanut butter. I was just like, was it just me?
Speaker 4: Or like was there no setup?
Speaker 6: That she's teaching her how to make sushi for no setup?
Speaker 2: We have no idea why.
Speaker 6: I was later it took me so long to realize
Speaker 6: why she was making sushi. I was like, what is
Speaker 6: this scene for? I forgot about like the Asia trip, right.
Speaker 2: Because I learned later. We learned later that they're doing
Speaker 2: it because she's going to serve it to Rory with
Speaker 2: the red hots or whatever at the Asia night. But like, okay,
Speaker 2: just making me gag.
Speaker 6: I rewound this scene because I thought I completely just
Speaker 6: blacked out and missed what setup.
Speaker 4: I'm like, why is she making sushi.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought they were making it for the dragonfly Yeah,
Speaker 5: and first me too. And then I'm like, why does
Speaker 5: Laura I care about this? She's got other things to
Speaker 5: do then worry about how to make the sushi.
Speaker 2: And when they said fried chicken and meat love, I
Speaker 2: was like, what is happening? But then we do get
Speaker 2: sort of a serious moment and that Lauraai tells Suki
Speaker 2: I told Luke, and Suki's.
Speaker 8: At like, why would you do that?
Speaker 2: Would you? Okay, this is sort of like me going
Speaker 2: off topic, but whatever, if you were Laura, would you
Speaker 2: have told Luke.
Speaker 8: You did it? Was that necessary?
Speaker 7: I think you have to otherwise? Yeah, down ten years
Speaker 7: down the road, and it's going to be more damage
Speaker 7: than if you did it right now.
Speaker 5: I mean we've already seen like all the damage that's
Speaker 5: caused when they don't tell each other things right on
Speaker 5: both sides. So you know, like, I don't know, I
Speaker 5: don't see how she couldn't because it would it would
Speaker 5: always be at least on her mind.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean I guess I guess, like we
Speaker 2: can all agree she kind of did the right thing
Speaker 2: or the needed thing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The timing, you know, when you tell somebody something like that. Agree,
Speaker 1: I mean she really humiliated him. He was in the
Speaker 1: middle of his impassioned good clamp it. Let's move to
Speaker 1: Beverly speech.
Speaker 2: Jud clamp the proposal, and she does say it was
Speaker 2: the worst moment of her life, which also was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: then why did you even do it? Like not meaning
Speaker 2: tell him, but why did you do that? Why did
Speaker 2: you go over to Christopher?
Speaker 1: It's like, weird, what a mess?
Speaker 2: Totally Jesus So yeah, okay, So then Rory runs into
Speaker 2: Zach on the street and Zach had a weird hat
Speaker 2: and weird hair. Yeah, what was the hat?
Speaker 5: Like were they trying to cover up his hair or something?
Speaker 5: My husband and both were like, why is he wearing
Speaker 5: that hat? Can't brain conductors?
Speaker 2: It was weird. And then we learned about Pedro's which
Speaker 2: that actually was sort of funny because I could totally
Speaker 2: see that happening to Zach where he thinks he's getting
Speaker 2: some ocean front room and it's really some weirdo's apartment.
Speaker 5: It's like the first Airbnb, like.
Speaker 2: Totally was ahead of it.
Speaker 9: Oh my god, you're so right.
Speaker 2: So that was good. And then some guy's apartment Zach
Speaker 2: I don't think Zach got a parasite. I think he
Speaker 2: got Monazuma's revenge. Right, It's very different from a parasite.
Speaker 2: Am I right?
Speaker 8: A parasite?
Speaker 5: He did?
Speaker 4: Like, so they both got it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, correct, But guess what I get it? She might have.
Speaker 4: She might have also at the water did so well.
Speaker 2: But so yeah, okay. So then Rory goes over and
Speaker 2: we learned that the honeymoon sucked, right, okay, So we
Speaker 2: sort of get the beginnings of it here, and we
Speaker 2: kind of get like, well, I was sick, but now
Speaker 2: I'm not sick, but then I am sick like that.
Speaker 2: So we're starting to get like, oh.
Speaker 5: Right, we have Brian in that giant sombrero.
Speaker 2: I know, I said, there's a lot of sort of
Speaker 2: weird cultural things in the second that I'm just like,
Speaker 2: I'm going to just let it go for the sake
Speaker 2: of the conversation. He's playing video games or something.
Speaker 8: Does he still live there? I guess he does?
Speaker 4: Yeah he does.
Speaker 2: Okay, So then we go back to the diner and
Speaker 2: TJ wants Luve to put up a stained glass window.
Speaker 5: M hm, super chair.
Speaker 2: Was putting his head back because he fell asleep.
Speaker 4: I saw the escaping.
Speaker 1: Ever you guys almost, So.
Speaker 2: DJ realizes that Luke's kind of been a mood and
Speaker 2: then he talks about Lis being so horny during the pregnancy,
Speaker 2: which it's if.
Speaker 7: I was a brother, you know, that does happen to people,
Speaker 7: but like for me, I was just like absolutely on
Speaker 7: the level of never. I don't know how people get
Speaker 7: like that during pregnancy.
Speaker 2: But also who's telling their person like their's I know,
Speaker 2: it's so brother.
Speaker 6: So I also like Luke is so just patient in
Speaker 6: this episode, like he's just like all right, like you're
Speaker 6: gonna tell me, all right.
Speaker 2: Wait tell you how patient he was for the tunic
Speaker 2: cast role, which I call castle. I guess she called
Speaker 2: it a tuna loaf. Also, oh god, and I just
Speaker 2: felt like that's been sitting in that oven for how long?
Speaker 2: How not food safe is this now? Because we'll get
Speaker 2: to that though, right. So now we're at the gazebo
Speaker 2: and we learned about the horrible sex it's yeah, And
Speaker 2: first of all, who's having sex for the first time
Speaker 2: on the beach?
Speaker 1: Oh god?
Speaker 7: My favorite part is how Lane was like, I mean,
Speaker 7: now I know it's horrible, and Rory's.
Speaker 2: Like, uh, like it's not.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she Lura is being really respectful about it, but
Speaker 6: like the conversation was just weird, Like I could not
Speaker 6: imagine having that conversation. Also, the timing of all this
Speaker 6: is just like so like how long was the honeymoon?
Speaker 2: I know, I know you're trying to do the timing
Speaker 2: because it just really beat meant already because they'd have
Speaker 2: to have been gone a month.
Speaker 4: Exactly, it's been two days.
Speaker 2: I thought it's been two weeks. Yeah, week honeymoon, but
Speaker 2: maybe it was a month long honeymoon.
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe day one.
Speaker 2: That was day one, and then it's day one ish.
Speaker 2: I mean she'd barely get a pregnancy test that would work, yeah,
Speaker 2: literally barely.
Speaker 6: And it's also like we're I know that pregnancy tests
Speaker 6: now are a lot more accurate, but like.
Speaker 4: Two thousand what year was this two thousand and six?
Speaker 2: Like my sort of flag on it is that we're
Speaker 2: they're talking about sex, right, but in gilmore Land. So
Speaker 2: it's like you can only talk about sex and gilmore
Speaker 2: Land kind of like PG. Maybe PG. Thirteen. When in
Speaker 2: actuality you're having this conversation with your best friend, you're
Speaker 2: gonna have it.
Speaker 5: Way more, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Are you saying, yeah, you're gonna have way more conversation.
Speaker 6: It was like the high school version and totally of
Speaker 6: this conversation and they're like twenty one two.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I felt like I should have should leave the
Speaker 1: room when they were I got up and left the
Speaker 1: room because I didn't feel it was appropriate that I
Speaker 1: was listening.
Speaker 2: To them two young girls that are basically like your daughter,
Speaker 2: and you're just like yeah, And I was like, if
Speaker 2: we're gonna do it, let's do it at Carrie Bradshaw
Speaker 2: and Samantha style. But instead we were doing.
Speaker 8: It very tog.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I thought it was drawn out way too long. I
Speaker 5: thought that whole scene was way too long. Right, They
Speaker 5: could have made it half as long and still gotten
Speaker 5: the same message across.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably would have been better.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know those messages we got like you're beating
Speaker 1: a dead horse kind of thing, that's what they were
Speaker 1: doing on this episode.
Speaker 2: Well, then we get to yes, I mean I agree.
Speaker 2: The whole episode felt like that. Oh, the whole episode
Speaker 2: felt so like weird and disjoyt and like I'm liking
Speaker 2: it and not at the exact same time, I'm like,
Speaker 2: how is this possible?
Speaker 4: Also, my other question was does Zach feel the same way.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's such a great question.
Speaker 6: She's like, I'm open to sexless marriage. I'm like, what
Speaker 6: does your husband think about this?
Speaker 2: And does she think it waiting so long?
Speaker 1: Yeah, she just to wait twenty years.
Speaker 8: And that's actually something that would love to ask his character.
Speaker 2: M hm, because does that mean they never so say
Speaker 2: they were gone for a month, which were to believe? Right?
Speaker 2: So they have sex day one, right, you know, they
Speaker 2: get to Mexico sex day one, and they're on this
Speaker 2: month long honeymoon and paid at Pedro's gross apartment and
Speaker 2: they never have sex again. And then she comes home
Speaker 2: and two days later she's pregnant. Like they're off to
Speaker 2: a great start.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's like an episode of the Bachelor or something.
Speaker 1: So then we have sort of the stock the stuff
Speaker 1: of dreams, right.
Speaker 8: They're in the fantasy suite.
Speaker 2: Then this was awkward for me. So we finally have
Speaker 2: this moment where Luke and Lorelai are reunited in the crosswalk,
Speaker 2: a crosswalk I don't know that I've ever seen before.
Speaker 2: She's carrying all the groceries. They're quite distant, like it
Speaker 2: was so like they spotted each other from across I
Speaker 2: don't know where we're supposed to be, like this is
Speaker 2: so dramatic, but instead it was just weird. And then
Speaker 2: they're crossing and kind of keep crossing, talking awkwardly. I
Speaker 2: didn't love it.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it wasn't like this the first time. I wanted
Speaker 7: them to see each other after the breakoup, Like it
Speaker 7: was almost like too casual. They both were just like, well, hey,
Speaker 7: well you're the one that proposed in the first like,
Speaker 7: oh yeah, I punched Christopher your boyfriend. I punched your boyfriend.
Speaker 8: You know, it's like just it was just weird.
Speaker 1: Point these characters are destroyed. It's hard to relate to
Speaker 1: them anymore. It's hard to like them anymore. And you know,
Speaker 1: they're not saying anything that's remotely recognizable for six previous seasons,
Speaker 1: and it's it's just awkward. Everything is awkward, And.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that was my problem with the episode,
Speaker 5: is that, like I'm still pulling for Luke and Lorely,
Speaker 5: like I still think that deep down they still love
Speaker 5: each other, but then this episode is there, it's just awkward.
Speaker 5: They're just acting weird and it's all disjointed, and I
Speaker 5: didn't know if maybe that was intentional. They wanted us
Speaker 5: to feel weird and awkward because the characters are feeling
Speaker 5: weird and awkward trying to figure out how there's I
Speaker 5: don't know, but the whole thing just was like, I
Speaker 5: don't think I need to see this episode again. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't usually watch this one.
Speaker 1: The question, I think the question really is do you
Speaker 1: think that Luke and Laurel I, given this, you know,
Speaker 1: the weight they bring to the show over the years,
Speaker 1: do you think they deserved an episode or two or
Speaker 1: three where you really had to deal with this breakup
Speaker 1: Andre that.
Speaker 2: I would have preferred that we get a glimpse of
Speaker 2: it at the end of this episode. And I sort
Speaker 2: of was like, Okay, now I'm in I.
Speaker 1: Think the fans the fans are getting short change period. Again.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed this relationship.
Speaker 2: Liz, I thought. Liz, which we'll get to, had some
Speaker 2: really astute comments and she really said to her brother,
Speaker 2: well that wasn't normal what you did, and that was
Speaker 2: some good meat. And I thought, oh, okay, well, okay,
Speaker 2: well we'll keep going because we can break that down.
Speaker 2: So then this is where we have the scene where
Speaker 2: TJ and Luker, you know, fixing the window and TJ's
Speaker 2: got his beer and he's got four tickets to the
Speaker 2: hawk Ats And this is where Luke finally tells him
Speaker 2: that hug. They broke up in the hug and then
Speaker 2: he says, you got to come over for dinner, which okay,
Speaker 2: good good.
Speaker 1: I thought that was sweet, Like, yeah, yeah, TJ saved
Speaker 1: this episode for me, saved the episode for me. They
Speaker 1: made it enjoyable.
Speaker 2: I agree, because when we get to it, I mean,
Speaker 2: we've got one more scene before it, but I really
Speaker 2: enjoyed the scene with the three of you. So right
Speaker 2: before that, we get Rory at the house with Lorlai
Speaker 2: and this is the whole we've transported ourselves to Asia
Speaker 2: and we've got which was quite extravagant in the kimono.
Speaker 1: And did you find that it was one of the
Speaker 1: strangest moments on the show for her to go to
Speaker 1: those lengths to do that.
Speaker 2: I don't feel like she would do that. Yeah, is
Speaker 2: this where they ate the hot sushi?
Speaker 6: It maybe feels out of place at this age in
Speaker 6: this season.
Speaker 4: I think if it was like.
Speaker 6: Three seasons earlier, maybe, but it's just been Also.
Speaker 2: She's heartbroken, so was awkward for me that she's doing
Speaker 2: this when she should just be in bed crime.
Speaker 4: Well, I thought of it as light escape.
Speaker 6: She doesn't want to think about it, so she's gonna
Speaker 6: throw this extravagant night with Rory so she doesn't have
Speaker 6: to sit in bed and think about it.
Speaker 3: She made a Tutsi roll, marshmallow twizzer roll, sushi, a
Speaker 3: butterfinger junior mint chocolate chip, jujubie roll on an oreo
Speaker 3: red hot shashimi, and were they wrapped in the traditional seaweed?
Speaker 5: Who?
Speaker 2: Then this has a moment where we hear the message,
Speaker 2: which I was like, okay, now we're now, I'm now,
Speaker 2: I'm in and we hear Christopher leave the message and
Speaker 2: Rory's reaction, which what did you all think of her reaction?
Speaker 1: Well, let's let's talk first about his intention. Why did
Speaker 1: he leave that message? He knew that Rory probably might
Speaker 1: hear it. There's a chance she could hear it. Why
Speaker 1: would he These characters are acting like.
Speaker 2: Why why wouldn't he just call her cell phone?
Speaker 1: I just you know, leaving that message with all the
Speaker 1: detail on it. And Luke punched me, and you know
Speaker 1: we had nookie and I want to have more and
Speaker 1: call me. Let's discuss because you know I have a
Speaker 1: broken nose from your boyfriend who you just dumbed. But
Speaker 1: we had nookie, So call me and gosh, I hope
Speaker 1: alexis is Rory isn't listening. I mean it was just
Speaker 1: it was just such a Again, I don't understand. I
Speaker 1: don't get it. Do you think it was intentional that
Speaker 1: he did that? Or was? I think I think sho
Speaker 1: he's so in his own world that he just doesn't care.
Speaker 2: I like hearing you tell it that being said, I
Speaker 2: was like, okay, he would call, he leaves messages there.
Speaker 2: He I wasn't. I sort of.
Speaker 4: Rory doesn't live there full times.
Speaker 6: That's how I took it, Like, you know, he didn't
Speaker 6: know that she'd be there, so I actually didn't think
Speaker 6: of it that way.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and he saw that she was in your in
Speaker 5: your not Europe Asia.
Speaker 2: But he's her dad. Who still believe?
Speaker 1: Do you leave something like that on a on an
Speaker 1: answering machine?
Speaker 5: Yeah, well he's not that bright right there?
Speaker 1: You think.
Speaker 5: The Ry herself said, he's never not stupid.
Speaker 2: What do you all think of Rory's reaction?
Speaker 6: I I actually like I liked it. I was like, finally, like,
Speaker 6: you know, I don't always agree with things that Rory says.
Speaker 6: But I think in this moment, it's like Suki wasn't
Speaker 6: going to snap Laura, I had of it, so and
Speaker 6: her mom like, we haven't seen Emily and Richard, and
Speaker 6: usually Emily's the one who's, you know, saying some things
Speaker 6: are actually kind of true.
Speaker 4: So Rory stepped up and she's like, what are you doing?
Speaker 6: And you know, it just shows you that Rory really
Speaker 6: respects Luke over her dad. And I think that was
Speaker 6: a really important scene because of Rory's relationship with Luke
Speaker 6: as well.
Speaker 1: M hm.
Speaker 2: And also I thought it was a point well taken
Speaker 2: when she says, things are so good with me and
Speaker 2: my dad, why would you do this?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: And it is you know, it's true sort of a.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's true because Rory always gets so flustered when
Speaker 7: her dad brings her mom down, and so doing that.
Speaker 5: She knows Christopher is always bad news. So what the
Speaker 5: heck were you thinking? I can kind of see both
Speaker 5: sides though, because Rory has made some questionable decisions too,
Speaker 5: so it was a little there was an element of,
Speaker 5: you know, the pot calling the kettle black, but I
Speaker 5: think she could have shown Loralai a little more grace.
Speaker 5: But then she kind of for me, she kind of
Speaker 5: redeemed that at the end of the episode when she
Speaker 5: came back and.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we did need somebody in Lorali circle to do that.
Speaker 7: Though yeah, you said we don't have Emily. Suki was
Speaker 7: just kind of like, oh, don't tell Luke, you know,
Speaker 7: kind of shrugged it, not shrugged it off, but pretending
Speaker 7: it didn't happened. We needed somebody to call it for
Speaker 7: what it is.
Speaker 2: And I actually, for me, I don't know, it's always
Speaker 2: a little cringey when the daughter and the mother have
Speaker 2: conversations about who the mother's sleeping with. I don't know,
Speaker 2: I'm always like, oh god, that being said, I think
Speaker 2: she's older that Laura. I would sleep with Christopher. She's
Speaker 2: not going to go sleep with somebody else, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. So it's like it's Suki. Like say
Speaker 2: it was Suki having the conversation, or even Babbett, it
Speaker 2: would be like, oh, honey, you always go back to him,
Speaker 2: and you can't really have that with the daughters. But
Speaker 2: I still thought it was an interesting sort of plot
Speaker 2: point and.
Speaker 5: Kind of like, yeah, I mean, right, she could have
Speaker 5: chosen to not have sex with anyone she could have
Speaker 5: chosen to eat ice cream or something like Christopher's not
Speaker 5: always the answer to the problem when you don't feel well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's also like that that episode when.
Speaker 6: I don't know how Lorlai phrased it, but it's when
Speaker 6: she broke up with Dean, Oh, wallow, She's like, you
Speaker 6: have to wallow. I think it was kind of like
Speaker 6: a callback to that where it's like you told me,
Speaker 6: if I'm having a breakup, I need to sit and wallow,
Speaker 6: And it's exactly what she's not doing well.
Speaker 2: And she's also doing with what Logan did, which when
Speaker 2: Logan and Rory had their break he went out and
Speaker 2: started sleeping with eighteen bridesmaids. But you get My point
Speaker 2: is like true, wallowing would have been the better move. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I thought Luke had a really good point in that
Speaker 7: scene where they were breaking up and he was and
Speaker 7: he had he said, I'm also in this relationship and
Speaker 7: I'm not letting it. I'm not giving it up, you know,
Speaker 7: And I don't know. I thought he had a point
Speaker 7: there because it's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I what was interesting for me, Luke's a character
Speaker 1: probably has greater impact as a stable force for Rory
Speaker 1: over the years, and he does as a relationship with LORELEI. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's when I got out of this scene between mother
Speaker 1: and daughter and daughter reprimanding mother. It's like, why didn't
Speaker 1: you consider me and my relationship with Luke? How this
Speaker 1: is going to affect me and my relationship with my
Speaker 1: real dad.
Speaker 2: Well, and her relationship with Luke has always been stable,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like it actually is more
Speaker 2: stable than Laureli's relationship with Luke. Over the years, they've
Speaker 2: had other breakups, whereas Rory and Luke have always had
Speaker 2: a constant.
Speaker 1: All right, I mean that's really the loss, isn't it.
Speaker 1: It's like, now Rory's cut off somewhat from Luke.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just I was about to say that
Speaker 2: in the sense that like they needed to take all
Speaker 2: that into account when they started dating, which I think
Speaker 2: they did, and then everything's just in the bucket. I
Speaker 2: don't know how to say it any other way. It's
Speaker 2: like it's all just a mess. Well, then we go
Speaker 2: to Lane's apartment and Lane's on the floor and oh
Speaker 2: she's pregnant, and she freaks out and Rory's kind of
Speaker 2: talking her down.
Speaker 4: I don't hate the idea of Lane being pregnant.
Speaker 2: But oh, I'm sorry skipped a scene. I'm sorry because
Speaker 2: we talked about it briefly. I skipped the scene where
Speaker 2: you're having the white Russians. So you go over to
Speaker 2: the to Liz's and you start to have the drinks.
Speaker 2: And this is where I do like Liz a lot.
Speaker 2: She asked if it was Anna, and Luke doesn't want
Speaker 2: to talk about it, but that that's the beginning of
Speaker 2: very important stuff to come.
Speaker 4: Jello.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, we haven't gotten to that yet, but we
Speaker 2: can talk about should we talk about why we just
Speaker 2: talk about the whole dinner. Let's just talk about the
Speaker 2: whole dinner because the scenes are separated, but they're so important.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Susanne.
Speaker 5: I was just going to say, talking about things that
Speaker 5: are awkward and unexpected. Who would ever have thought that
Speaker 5: Liz would be the voice of reason.
Speaker 2: I know, and yet she fully was. And also I
Speaker 2: guess the one thing is she can totally call out
Speaker 2: her brother, right, yes she does, and she was she
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know that I totally agree with
Speaker 2: everything she said, but she finally did call out like
Speaker 2: that was weird that you didn't just include Lorlai with
Speaker 2: April right, and that she was pretty quick to say
Speaker 2: was it Anna, which it kind of was Anna, even
Speaker 2: though everyone's like, no, it's not Anna in the sense
Speaker 2: that he loves Anna. But Anna laid apart into pushing
Speaker 2: the Luke and Lorelaia apart.
Speaker 7: I think she planted it in Laura Lai's head that
Speaker 7: she's not married, Like we like, Laura knew she wasn't married,
Speaker 7: but like create it an issue.
Speaker 2: But she's less than because they're not married. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: then we get the gross tuna loaf? Is that good? Tunas?
Speaker 2: It was a tuna loaf?
Speaker 4: She said, a loaf, yeah, and it.
Speaker 2: Was not in a castle role dish. It was like
Speaker 2: on a cookie sheet.
Speaker 5: All meat that it was like a shaped thing.
Speaker 2: And wouldn't you know the oven's broken?
Speaker 5: But I was gonna say, how did she check it
Speaker 5: like three times and not notice it was hot until
Speaker 5: the lost time?
Speaker 2: And it does set us up to get Luke to
Speaker 2: the store, which we'll talk about.
Speaker 4: But I did like for else.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I did like that Luke had family support in
Speaker 6: this episode.
Speaker 4: Never seen.
Speaker 6: I mean, we've seen Lizen TJ before, but not in
Speaker 6: this this way.
Speaker 7: He's always been the support so like, I appreciate he
Speaker 7: has it this time.
Speaker 2: Okay, We've got more to talk about there that. But
Speaker 2: also I want to talk about the scene with Rory
Speaker 2: and Lane. This is a hot take, but I'm just
Speaker 2: going to say it. Did anyone get the vibe for
Speaker 2: a moment there that Lane might be considering other options?
Speaker 1: M h, I did do That's it made me very uncomfortable.
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, like I thought, okay, they're sort
Speaker 2: of going to have this deep conversation and then it
Speaker 2: just pivoted. But I don't know if that was intentional.
Speaker 2: Did you guys? Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: She sort of said, this show is going listen, this
Speaker 1: show overall over the last I don't know, five or
Speaker 1: six episodes, end of season six, beginning season seven is
Speaker 1: going into territory that it doesn't normally occupy and doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily do very well.
Speaker 2: Yes, your points taken, and that it's like they started
Speaker 2: to go there where I thought they were gonna have
Speaker 2: a deep conversation about her options and then who that
Speaker 2: just went away.
Speaker 4: I didn't think of it.
Speaker 6: Yeah I didn't either, But I mean I can see wat.
Speaker 7: You Yeah, I think I think just overall like what
Speaker 7: I gathered from that, Elaine is just super bummed. Like
Speaker 7: she went on honeymoon, it wasn't amazing, she had sex
Speaker 7: for the first time, it wasn't amazing, And now she's pregnant.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 7: I think she's just I.
Speaker 1: Mean, let me ask you, let me ask you something.
Speaker 1: Was that supposed to be funny that scene? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Was that supposed to be funny? What were
Speaker 1: they going for there? What was the point of it?
Speaker 6: I took it as someone who's just been sheltered her
Speaker 6: entire life, and like she's never had that conversation with
Speaker 6: her mom or even in season one if you remember,
Speaker 6: like Lane was just weird around guys, and Rory was
Speaker 6: awkward too, but Lane was just like a different you know,
Speaker 6: like she didn't really know how to like talk to guys.
Speaker 6: So I just thought of it as like Lane never
Speaker 6: grew up.
Speaker 4: But that's just.
Speaker 2: How I m.
Speaker 7: Yeah, she's like not I get what you're saying, but
Speaker 7: she's put in the situation where she is grown up. Like,
Speaker 7: you know, she she is married. You know, she seems
Speaker 7: a little.
Speaker 2: Too to be married, too young to have a kid,
Speaker 2: too young for all of this.
Speaker 8: Yeah, like she wakes up.
Speaker 2: The diner and has a band that cruises around in
Speaker 2: a broke van.
Speaker 5: She hasn't really had much opportunity to be independent yet,
Speaker 5: like she's going from her mom's house to being married
Speaker 5: to being a mother, Like she never gets a chance
Speaker 5: to like do her thing.
Speaker 2: I think I just expected more from Lane. Not that
Speaker 2: not that it's bad that she got married or pregnant,
Speaker 2: but like she doesn't really have a purpose quite yet.
Speaker 7: And maybe, yeah, her storyline is just so jumbled, like
Speaker 7: she works at the diner here and there, she sometimes
Speaker 7: has some music shows, sometimes has band practice.
Speaker 8: And she's pregnant.
Speaker 7: I don't know, it's just her storyline just yeah kills me.
Speaker 6: It's also with someone like Rory, who's always had like,
Speaker 6: you know, interesting relationships and back and forth you usually
Speaker 6: have like in these shows, like the friend who has
Speaker 6: their together as a guess, but in this sense, both
Speaker 6: of them don't, and so they're kind of just like
Speaker 6: figuring it out together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's mature sometimes and very immature sometimes. I guess
Speaker 2: that's what I would say.
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, so then this episode is such a
Speaker 5: train wreck for me because everyone miserable except for Kirk.
Speaker 1: Unhappy and when he shouldn't when he shouldn't be right right.
Speaker 2: You know, it's so messy. The whole thing's disjointed is
Speaker 2: a better word. But then we go to the Ralphs,
Speaker 2: which was so weird because it didn't even look Gilmoury.
Speaker 2: It was just we're clearly like on a handheld camera
Speaker 2: and Ralphs, like you has.
Speaker 7: Like cut little Dozies market where all the produce is like,
Speaker 7: you know, it looks like a tiny, tiny trader Joe's.
Speaker 2: They acknowledge it too, so like she even says like, oh,
Speaker 2: my attempt to avoid you at Dosies didn't work, And
Speaker 2: he's like, well, I'm at this grocery store because I've
Speaker 2: been at Lizon TJ's on the other side of town,
Speaker 2: and it's just like.
Speaker 7: What Dozy's on the back lot was booked that day,
Speaker 7: literally booked.
Speaker 2: Isn't TJ also live in stars Hollow? Now they do,
Speaker 2: like they bought a place. We know this, so why
Speaker 2: would we not just shoot this scene at Dozi's. It's
Speaker 2: so weird. It's so weird and weird.
Speaker 6: We've never in seven seasons seen any other grocery store,
Speaker 6: Like it's apparently really far away to go.
Speaker 2: Literally, I think Lorli drove thirty miles to that grocery
Speaker 2: store because where is the Ralphs? Like by Ryan target too?
Speaker 2: Like what it was so weird and it was like
Speaker 2: that person like they definitely shot that in a grocery store,
Speaker 2: which I also don't understand, like that is lighting is
Speaker 2: not allow at all.
Speaker 5: Which maybe I mean, maybe that was intentional to add
Speaker 5: to the feeling of disconnectedness. It was like, let's put
Speaker 5: them in a completely different place that we've never ever
Speaker 5: seen before and really throw everyone off their axes.
Speaker 1: Where are the town busy bodies? Where's Taylor? Where's that?
Speaker 1: Where's miss Patty? Yeah, chiming being involved in the breakup
Speaker 1: of Luke and Laurel, e all the ramifications. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is such a missed opportunity. It's kind of shocking. Really,
Speaker 1: it's not.
Speaker 7: Even a missed opportunity. It's just not the show, you know,
Speaker 7: like your show.
Speaker 1: It's just this is a different show we're watching. It's
Speaker 1: like a whole different show we're watching with these characters
Speaker 1: we don't really recognize, but we know they're bela missing.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make sense with how they're behaving.
Speaker 8: Now, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Thought that the the whole Kirks thing was the perfect
Speaker 5: opportunity that they could have had, you know, Gypsy or
Speaker 5: Miss Patty or somebody you know having their coffee at
Speaker 5: Kirk's because Luke's is gone now, But they just have
Speaker 5: like generic.
Speaker 6: I was I was looking for, like bebetter, someone who's
Speaker 6: gone listen in and ask Luke like how you doing
Speaker 6: or you know something? But we didn't even get that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, but the way the way in a small town,
Speaker 9: the way they tee up a lot of these things,
Speaker 9: and especially this relationship, they didn't tee it up for
Speaker 9: the breakup.
Speaker 1: It's not affecting the town in any real way.
Speaker 2: It's right.
Speaker 6: The way.
Speaker 1: And before they trained the audience for six seasons to
Speaker 1: count on this relation, to want this relationship, to really
Speaker 1: root for it, and then when it happens, this big celebration,
Speaker 1: and it's they're breathless waiting for Luke and Laura to
Speaker 1: get together, and now that they're not together, it's like
Speaker 1: nobody's nobody's really talking about it.
Speaker 6: I actually wouldn't mind if, like she drove to Emily
Speaker 6: and Richard's house totally.
Speaker 2: I just was about to say that, why why are
Speaker 2: we not doing that.
Speaker 6: Or like, I just feel like they should even though
Speaker 6: like they've always been critical of Laura I and her relationships.
Speaker 6: I just felt like we needed them in this moment
Speaker 6: and we don't have that.
Speaker 2: Well, why didn't she take Rory and out of town?
Speaker 2: We've seen like I know we've done that before, but
Speaker 2: it's like kind of did that with the Max break up.
Speaker 2: But it's just like, I don't know, nothing tracked. And
Speaker 2: I have to say, I think one of the things
Speaker 2: that was so awkward for me was how happy she
Speaker 2: was in Asia. Do you know what I mean? Doing
Speaker 2: the Asian She's smiling and putting this. It just I
Speaker 2: was like, what candy and watch movies?
Speaker 6: But like I also just thought like, why don't they
Speaker 6: go on a trip together? Like was that addressed at all?
Speaker 2: Five seas pick your choice?
Speaker 1: Yeah, back to season three? Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Anyway, So then we do have a scene that was
Speaker 2: sort of felt gilmoury and poignant is that she goes in,
Speaker 2: Rory gets comes home, and lower lie there finally you know, crying.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Sorry, I felt like just to go back one step.
Speaker 5: At the in the grocery store scene, she looked like
Speaker 5: she wanted to talk about it more like she she
Speaker 5: looked like she wanted to maybe have more of a discussion,
Speaker 5: but he kept putting up that wall, like you go
Speaker 5: be with Christopher, you know, you know you shouldn't be
Speaker 5: with me, And I don't know. I just felt like
Speaker 5: she wanted to have more of a conversation there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's gutted, he's done. He's hurt so deeply.
Speaker 1: I mean, she slept with it a.
Speaker 2: Guy, and he's just so like, I'm fine, We'll be fine.
Speaker 2: I'm angry now, but I'll be fine.
Speaker 5: He's watching out because he was hurt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very luke like though, that's how he would be.
Speaker 2: I'm fine. I don't want to talk about it.
Speaker 1: Let's write this puppy. What are we What are we
Speaker 1: giving it? What's the measuring stick?
Speaker 2: Who wants to go first?
Speaker 1: I think I think tar should go first, giving she
Speaker 1: just has that look.
Speaker 6: This is this is where Gilmour lost me. Honestly, like
Speaker 6: this season. This is why I say I don't like
Speaker 6: the season. I prefer the movies. But I'm going to
Speaker 6: give it a four.
Speaker 1: Generous that's actually generous.
Speaker 4: Tune of loafs.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Danielle, I'm going to give it five point five
Speaker 7: red hats, extremely generous.
Speaker 2: How did you give it?
Speaker 4: How many she gave?
Speaker 1: Five point five?
Speaker 2: I'm going to give it.
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, we haven't call on you.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, continue, I got excited.
Speaker 1: I know, I understand Susan French.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna give it a four point five.
Speaker 5: This didn't really do anything for me. Four point five
Speaker 5: beers from Kirk's Diner, Amy Sugar.
Speaker 2: Six point five, which is my low score ever, still
Speaker 2: higher than you all, but six point five. Rory having
Speaker 2: a blue dress over jeans, which was a look.
Speaker 4: I rocked in that era.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, so I respected the fashion.
Speaker 2: Yeah, six point five, and I feel bad giving it
Speaker 2: that low. I'd like to give it a seven, but
Speaker 2: I think I'm going six point five.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it. Well. The TJ hug was
Speaker 1: worth at least three points. God disjointedness of it is
Speaker 1: so I don't know. I can't give it anything. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry it's a zero. Oh no, because it's such a did.
Speaker 4: You give a zero last week?
Speaker 6: Zero?
Speaker 2: Zero?
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I agree with Tara. I mean the
Speaker 1: thing like, it's how many episodes does it take to
Speaker 1: lose you? I mean this thing's lost me too.
Speaker 6: I'm like, I mean, we're only on episode two.
Speaker 1: And nobody's acting like their characters and it's just an
Speaker 1: odd experience and I'm just really like, I'm just looking
Speaker 1: for some laughs and I got a couple, you know,
Speaker 1: but it's just none of it makes sense anymore. There's
Speaker 1: no real emotional logic to it any longer. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a double zero. Give double zero. I'm giving it
Speaker 1: zero zero's Oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't great. I'm not gonna lie about that. Well,
Speaker 2: maybe next week things will be better because I think
Speaker 2: Emily at least we get Emily.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's coming back. All right, Well that's going to
Speaker 1: do it. Our goose is cooked here. We love you,
Speaker 1: we need you, we we worship you, and you're the
Speaker 1: best fans on the planet. And I just took another
Speaker 1: pill and I washed it down with gues Scottie Pea's
Speaker 1: Big Bug coffee break as well, that rich smooth flavor. Anyway,
Speaker 1: Thanks everybody. Wish wish we had better news for this episode,
Speaker 1: you know, but you know us, we we're addicted to
Speaker 1: being honest and it's just real fault here that I am.
Speaker 1: That's my fault. I told everybody to be honest. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like the no bs on. But anyway, have a
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