1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noon Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot Com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,799 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin cowher 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: Oh, We're gonna have a good show. Who needs sleep anyway? 11 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 1: It is Thursday. We are liveving Los Angeles. It is 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: the Herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be listening. 13 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for making us part of your day. Bryan Fitzpatrick, 14 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 1: Harvard Guy, Funny Guy, playmaking quarterback now at Amazon, joining us, 15 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: Greg cosel Aiden, Hodgeson, Lee and Cohen stopping buying. So 16 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: we had Christian McCaffrey and I've said before is in 17 00:00:56,880 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: my lifetime? Walter paytons by the best word I've ever 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: seen Barry Sanders is closed. I'd say Christian McCaffrey in 19 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: terms of the ability to do everything, not fumble, catch 20 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: a pass, make a blog, make a run, make people 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: miss outrun people. He was on our show yesterday but 22 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: it was at the very end of our show. And 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 1: he played a couple different times with Sam Darnold, once 24 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: in San Francisco and once in Carolina, so he knows 25 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 1: Sam very well, and he dropped this little gem about 26 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: slinging Sammy d. 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 3: When I first met him in Carolina, from the jump, 28 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 3: I was like, this guy's a dude. And the more 29 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: and more you see him at practice that you see 30 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 3: the throws to make you understand why he's a top 31 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 3: pick in the draft, and then you're around him more 32 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 3: and you're like, this is one of the best players 33 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: I've been around, period, and it's because of how talent, talent, 34 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: how talented his arm is. He's he's way more athletic 35 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: than people give him credit for. 36 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's one of the most talent to players I've 37 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: ever seen. And that's the guy that plays with George 38 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: Kittle and Trent Williams, the Deebo Samuels. I mean, like, 39 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: you know, Fred Warner of Bosa, He's one of the 40 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: most talented players I've ever played with. All those Carolina 41 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: teams they had good players too. So the fans opinion 42 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:25,440 Speaker 1: on Donald is so different than the player's opinion on Donald. 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,120 Speaker 1: And the coach's opinion on Donald. I mean, if Sam 44 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: throws an ugly pick in the Super Bowl, fans will 45 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: be like, told Jah can't play. When this guy was 46 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: at the depths of his career, players were always like, 47 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 1: he's a dude. And by the way, players and coaches 48 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: gossip like the rest of us, and people inside the 49 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: game know how good he is. And I think one 50 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: of the reasons is is because first impressions die slowly. 51 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 1: And there's a reason our parents, I hope your parents 52 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: did this. My parents, My dad did this lot where 53 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, look people in the eye, tuck your shirt 54 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 1: in firm handshake. First impressions matter. Man never had better advice. 55 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,079 Speaker 1: I had a college professor named Howard Hopp at Eastern 56 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: Washington University. He was a very funny guy, small guy projected, 57 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: wore like an interesting hat, and the reason when you 58 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: had a class project, he would make you come up 59 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: and present it like a business person. And I can 60 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: remember him shouting at me cow HUD's hit out, I 61 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't buy trisk, it's from you, Stotova, And it was like, 62 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: first impressions matter. People feed off your energy or your negativity. 63 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: And Sam's never been a victim. He's got great energy, 64 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: he's a great guy, and that was tho the hard times. 65 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: So you know, but those first images in New York, 66 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: I'm seeing ghosts on a nationally televised game. But players 67 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: always knew how bad the Jets were, So I think 68 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: that's theff just gets embedded in our brain, your first impressions. 69 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: And I'll give you a basketball example, Chris Weber. When 70 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: Chris Webber came into basketball as a college player, I'd 71 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: never seen a guy that big with that good of 72 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: hands and that good of feet. I thought he had 73 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: the best hands and feet I'd ever seen from a 74 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,679 Speaker 1: big pre lebron I just like he had the feet 75 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: of a guard and the hands of a catch. 76 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 4: And shoot two guard. 77 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: But because he called a timeout in the National Championship, 78 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: that gets embedded in your brain. Sea Webb is an 79 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: NBA Hall of Famer. It's a five time All Pro 80 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: in his prime twenty five a game, tough defender, great rebounder, 81 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: unbelievable touch for a big guy. He was a great 82 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame level basketball player. But you say, see 83 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: web and you think that timeout, that image one second 84 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: is all That play lasted one second Scott Norwood made 85 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: a lot more kicks than the one he missed in 86 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,160 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. But that stuff gets embedded with people. 87 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: And when I look, I've said this, I've used this 88 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 1: stat before, is that if you go after the Jets, 89 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: he went to Carolina and he got benched for the 90 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: first time in his career. Then November twenty seventh, Sam 91 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: Darnold started again. From that day to today, Carolina Niners, 92 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 1: Minnesota Seattle, highest percentage of one hundred plus passer rating games, 93 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: winningest quarterback in the league. The dude is a baller, 94 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: and the players and the coaches know it. And if 95 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: he loses the Super Bowl, players and coaches will not 96 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: bail on Sam. Tom Brady lost multiple Super Bowls, won 97 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: the Nick Foles, but fans will immediately. 98 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 5: Bail on him. 99 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: He's just seen differently from one group to the next. Okay, 100 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: So I saw this headline, and I really love this 101 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: headline because you know, I like Mike Rabel. 102 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 4: And you know I love Max Crosby. 103 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 1: Max Crosby, the Raiders reportedly wants to play where does 104 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 1: he want to play? 105 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: This team? 106 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: That team, the best team, the AFC, the MC. Max 107 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: Crosby wants to play for Mike Vrabel, and running backs 108 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: and quarterbacks want to play with Kyle Shanahan. Matt Stafford 109 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 1: took less to play with Sean McVay. You see Vrabel 110 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: in the tunnel with players emotionally hugging them, and he's 111 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,640 Speaker 1: not just doing that to the stars, he's doing that 112 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: the gunners on special teams. 113 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 4: And long snappers. 114 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: That image is so incredibly powerful throughout the league. And 115 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: there are only five or six head coaches, that's about it, 116 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: in this league that have a brand. That doesn't mean 117 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: there's only five or six great coaches, but that have 118 00:06:51,839 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: a brand. Shanahan schemes, Andy Reid, creativity, McVeigh, energy, innovation, BA, physicality, 119 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: and the two words I would use with Mike Rabel 120 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: tough love. Nobody is going to be harder on you 121 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: and love you more than Dad and Mike Rabel. And 122 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: Vrabel's brand is virtually impossible to duplicate because of his 123 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: size and physicality. Apparently he intimidated people in Tennessee like 124 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: he was intimidating, and there were reports that when he 125 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: was interviewing for jobs, you know, people remarked about his 126 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 1: sheer size and presence in the room and it worked 127 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: against him. I can't imagine it would, but those were 128 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: the stories, so you can't really duplicate him. And the 129 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: other thing is there's two things in the league you 130 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: cannot fake, and I would say among. 131 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 4: Pro athletes, you can't fake a tough guy. 132 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: Those who know no, you can't fake being a tough guy. 133 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: You also can't fake that you really really deeply care 134 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: about your players. Players can smell fake tough guys. They 135 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:17,760 Speaker 1: can sniff out the guy who says he loves you 136 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: but doesn't so. Vrabel, to me, is a very unique 137 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: coach Chris Long, and he's such a good fit in 138 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: New England. Chris Long yesterday on the show, talked about. 139 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 6: That Mike Vrabel is who he is. What you see 140 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 6: is what you get. Players appreciate that, and we also 141 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 6: appreciate being told the truth. That's one thing I always 142 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 6: appreciate about Belichick was, you know, like I had coaches 143 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 6: that would walk a mile around confrontation and telling you 144 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 6: the truth and telling you if what you were doing 145 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 6: wasn't cutting it, or what we were doing as a team, 146 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 6: something needed to change. Hiring Mike Vrabel is going to 147 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 6: turn out to be one of the best decisions a 148 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:58,479 Speaker 6: team has made this decade. 149 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 4: And by the way, Sean pay And has some of this. 150 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 4: Vrabel and Sean Payton. 151 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: They'll bark at you, they allow you to bark back, 152 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: and they don't hold grudges. That mean nobody nothing pettier 153 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: than holding grudges. Sean Payton barks at Bownicks Bonicks, barks back, 154 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: Sean barks back, bo barks back again, and they don't 155 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 1: hold grudges. He loves him and Rabel has that quality. 156 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: And even among coaches you'd think that was universal, it's not. 157 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: There's pettiness in every industry and Vrabel just doesn't have that. 158 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: So Warriors finally made a trade. Boy, what a big 159 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: nothing burger that was. 160 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 7: The Jonathan Kuminga era ends with a whimper woof. 161 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: Like a real whimper. I've got some thoughts on that 162 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: for the record. So all the money is coming in 163 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,839 Speaker 1: on Seattle. Jmak U of Al has been a bit 164 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: of a contrarian, so I said from the very beginning 165 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: this number. 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Taylor's livelihood depends on it You do it 190 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 8: today and you can check all of those out on 191 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 8: the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. 192 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: And with that, Greg Cosel forty six years NFL Films 193 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: joining US Live. 194 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 4: So last year. 195 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: The Patriots had Drake May, they had a lot of 196 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: this personnel and they were unwatchable thirty first yards per game. 197 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: This year you still have Drake May. They made some acquisitions, 198 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: but Hunter Henry was here last year. Is there this year? 199 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: When you look at New England's offense year to year, 200 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: is it free agent signings, is it the draft or 201 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: is it just schemes and coaching a massive upgrade? 202 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 4: Why? 203 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,239 Speaker 9: I think it's schemes and coaching and the natural development 204 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 9: of Drake May. You know, Colin, we've talked for years. 205 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 9: You know how big a believer I am in coaching 206 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 9: with quarterbacks. Very very very few quarterbacks are transcendent that 207 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 9: you can just go out there and it doesn't matter 208 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,559 Speaker 9: what the system is, what the schemaddics are. It all 209 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 9: comes down to that, in my opinion, in many many ways. 210 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 9: And I think that's a big difference. And I know 211 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 9: for a fact the way Josh McDaniels went about dealing 212 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 9: with Drake May and they basically gave him everything because 213 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 9: he can handle it mentally, and then you can work 214 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 9: down as opposed to just giving it incrementally giving it 215 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 9: to him that way. So it'll be interesting because you know, 216 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 9: it's funny. I don't know how you feel about this game, 217 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 9: but this game, to me, believe it or not, has 218 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 9: much more of a defensive field to it than an 219 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 9: offensive field. 220 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 7: Yeah. 221 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: I think it is a I've said this. I think 222 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: it's twenty four to twenty. I think field goals and 223 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: special teams will matter. I think a lot of it's 224 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: played in between the thirties. I think it's a very 225 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:15,959 Speaker 1: physical game. 226 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean my sense. 227 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 9: Look, no one can predict turnovers and short fields, which 228 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 9: obviously change games. Can Shaheed take one to the house 229 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 9: on a pun returner kickout return? Sure? 230 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 3: You know. 231 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 4: Can Darnald hit Shaheed for a big one? 232 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 5: Yeah? 233 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 4: Those things can happen. 234 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 9: But I don't see this game as being a game 235 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 9: where you're going to see a meaningful number of eleven, twelve, 236 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 9: thirteen play long drives for touchdowns. And I think one 237 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 9: of the things in this game, and we rarely talk 238 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 9: about this, the defensive tackle rotations in this game for 239 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 9: both teams are really high level, and I wonder how 240 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 9: that's going to impact the run games because you look 241 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 9: at what New England brings to the table with Barmore Williams, 242 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 9: even some unknown players like Already Durden in Tanga. 243 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 4: Then you look at Seattle. We know about Leonard Williams 244 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 4: and Murphy Jaron Reid. 245 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 9: It's very hard to run the ball inside against these 246 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 9: defensive fronts, and I think both teams will definitely feel 247 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 9: the need to have the run game to be a 248 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 9: meaningful part of their offensive approach. 249 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 4: Why did Sam Darnald and JSN. 250 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: It felt like it clicked very early, and we know 251 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: this is not the case with all quarterback wide receiver combles. 252 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 4: It takes time. These guys clicked immediately. Why, you know, 253 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 4: I think. 254 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 9: A lot of that also has to do with schematics, 255 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 9: because aren't you always amazed at times when you see 256 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 9: really great receivers being so open. 257 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 4: You know, you wonder, God, he's a great receiver. 258 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 9: He's open, And that gets down to the schematics of 259 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 9: the offense. And I think one of the things that 260 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 9: Seattle does exceptionally well. We actually saw it last year 261 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 9: in Minnesota with Donald under center play action. And I've 262 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 9: always believed that under center play action is much more 263 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 9: effective than shotgun or pistol play action because what are you. 264 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 4: Trying to do. 265 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:15,119 Speaker 9: You're trying to influence and put second level defenders in conflict. 266 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 9: And when it takes more time for a second level 267 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 9: defender to determine whether it's pass or run, and the 268 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 9: run game in the pass game are married together so well, 269 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 9: then they get caught in conflict. And you see a 270 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 9: lot of those inbreaking routes that the Seahawks were really 271 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 9: really good at against single high safety coverage, and you 272 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 9: saw Smith and Jigger being able to run those routes 273 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 9: and essentially be open. 274 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 4: And they move him around a lot too. 275 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 9: He predominantly lines up outside eighty percent of his snaps, 276 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 9: but they move him around a lot. 277 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 4: And you know, I'm not. 278 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:54,120 Speaker 9: Sure that the Patriots are gonna put Christian Gonzalez on 279 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 9: him because that affects other defenders too. 280 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: People aren't aware of that. It's not just one guy. 281 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: What I remember when Kenneth Walker was at Michigan State, 282 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: he was very good to post, very good post contact. Well, 283 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: he's very good post contact as a pro how do 284 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: they use him in Seattle? Do you like the way 285 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: they use him? 286 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 9: You know, I think that over the last five six 287 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 9: weeks he's become a different runner and a better runner 288 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 9: because to me, and this is the way I evaluated 289 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 9: him coming out of college, and I thought he was 290 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 9: like this for his early years in the league and 291 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,960 Speaker 9: he hasn't been in the league that long, but I 292 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 9: always described him Colin as much more of a jazz musician, 293 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 9: improvisational guy as opposed to a you know, classical pianist 294 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 9: who you know follows all the notes. But over the 295 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 9: last five six weeks, he has run inside much much better. 296 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 9: He's gotten what we call the hard yards, and I 297 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 9: think when you play in games like this a yard, 298 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 9: two yards, three yards, those yards matter now. I also 299 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 9: think that the Patriots, because of Rabel's background with Belichick, 300 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,080 Speaker 9: will do a much better job than recent opponents of 301 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 9: the Seahawks in setting the edge, and you're not going 302 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 9: to see Walker get outside the way he has against 303 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 9: some other opponents in recent weeks. 304 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 1: Is there something that stands out with the Seahawks defense 305 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: that just jumps off the film for you or is 306 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: it just consistent the ability to play and mesh all 307 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 1: their levels of football together. 308 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 4: Well, what does the tape say? Two things stand out? 309 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 9: I would say Williams and Murphy on the inside, and 310 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 9: the versatility of so many of their safeties and corners, 311 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 9: because don't forget we know about Em and Worry and again, 312 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 9: I know he got heard and we'll wait and see 313 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 9: on that. 314 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 4: But let's assume he plays. 315 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 9: He's essentially a SAM linebacker in their system, but he 316 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 9: does so many things. He can match up to wide 317 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 9: receivers as we're seeing, but also Love who's a corner 318 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 9: in college. Witherspoon can play outside, can play inside. They 319 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 9: have tremendous versatility with their back end players, which allows 320 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,199 Speaker 9: them to do multiple things from a coverage and a 321 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 9: pressure stand point. Because Em and Wari and Witherspoon are 322 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 9: both very good blitzers. And while the Seahawks are not 323 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,159 Speaker 9: a high percentage blitz defense, when they do blitz they're 324 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 9: very very good at it. 325 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,679 Speaker 1: Do these two teams look like? I mean again, I 326 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: see a close, low scoring game. How do they match 327 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: up on film? Are there are there glaring holes? For 328 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: I worry about New England's O line matching up, but 329 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: I worried about the last three weeks and three games 330 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: and they won. What what how do they match up? 331 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 5: Yeah? 332 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 9: I would say that the left side of the Patriots 333 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 9: all line with the rookie. The two rookies, Wilson and 334 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 9: Campbell are our potential issues. Again, the Patriots know this, 335 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 9: So it depends on how the game is played, because 336 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 9: now you get into situational football, and if you get 337 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 9: into too many long yarded situations, do they feel they 338 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 9: need to help Campbell? I mean, obviously the past the 339 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,199 Speaker 9: edge pass rushers for Seattle, maybe they're not quite at 340 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 9: the level that they played against in the in the playoffs, 341 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 9: but they're feel very good. So the question is do 342 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 9: they feel they need to help Campbell? How about Wilson 343 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 9: the rookie left guard, what do they feel about him 344 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 9: going up against perhaps Williams or at times they even 345 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 9: move Lawrence inside. So I think that it'll be interesting 346 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 9: to see how the Patriots handle that, knowing that that 347 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 9: is a potential concern when you get to pure pass 348 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 9: and third down situations. 349 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, the you know, you kind of talked about strength 350 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: and weakness there. I want to circle back to Sam Darnold. Yeah, 351 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, I said, just because of his early years. 352 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: If he has a bad pick in the Super Bowl, 353 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 1: people will just be like, see, I told you so, 354 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: and no questions, no question and Drake May will be 355 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: able to get away because Drake may Our early impressions 356 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: are boy, he's ready, young and talented, so he'll get 357 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: away with more. I mean, just Darnald can't throw a 358 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: bad pick. But here's something else. I think Fred Warner 359 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 1: mentioned this yesterday. So Seattle and the Rams play these 360 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: wildly entertaining and they both look like absolute dynastic, unbelievable rosters. 361 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: New England plays in blizzards. Yeah, against good defenses. So 362 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: the takeaway with New England is their offense stinks, And 363 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, they dropped thirty one on Buffalo, so 364 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: you have to be very careful about recency bias. In 365 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: my opinion on New England's offense. I still like it. Greg, 366 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: I like New England's offense. Now they get to play 367 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: in California weather. What do you like about the Patriots 368 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: offense that we probably haven't seen a lot of in 369 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: the last month. 370 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's a great point because all throughout the season, 371 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 9: May was terrific and their past game was really good. 372 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 9: I really like the way they attacked. They work the 373 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 9: intermediate areas of defenses really really well with their route concepts. 374 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 9: Protection will be the key, as we just mentioned. But yeah, again, 375 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 9: no one knows what Drake May is going to do. 376 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 9: He's a second year player playing in a super Bowl. 377 00:20:59,280 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 4: You never know. 378 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 9: But throughout the course of the season, their past game 379 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 9: was very dynamic. It was really very schematic, really good. 380 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 9: They did a lot of things conceptually that define reads 381 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 9: and throws for May. I would expect that to be 382 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 9: the case. You know, as I said, if he's under duress, 383 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 9: that changes things. But the other thing to keep in mind, 384 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 9: May's legs are a big deal. He had more scrambles 385 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 9: this season than any quarterback in the NFL. Keep that 386 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 9: in mind, and I was very surprised that Denver, you know, 387 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 9: it didn't really do a lot to address that in 388 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 9: that game. Now, Seattle historically this season has not used 389 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 9: a spy. 390 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 4: Now, with two weeks to prepare, could they do that? Sure? 391 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 9: But you know, Mike McDonald is aware of May's legs, 392 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 9: so he's going to have some plan that accounts for 393 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,959 Speaker 9: that in those pure pass and third down situations. 394 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 4: Great stuff. 395 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: I've said before, you know, if I was a better 396 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: I would take the points here and the under. I 397 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,479 Speaker 1: think it's close and low scoring. It's very hard to 398 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: project how games play, but it sounds like you expect 399 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: you expect a top physical, low scoring game. That's what 400 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: you're kind of projecting, right more so. Yeah, and by that, 401 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't mean it'll be ten seven. 402 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 4: But I'm with you. 403 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 9: I mean because I get asked all the time and 404 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 9: I have to pick scores. I think I picked twenty 405 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 9: three twenty or twenty three seventeen, and I think you 406 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 9: feel the same way, and I picked Seattle. But you know, 407 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 9: when I pick games, it's you know me, Colin. I 408 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 9: could give you ten reasons on either side, so I 409 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 9: never can pick these games with great conviction. 410 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: Great stuff. Greg Cosell love the fifteen minute breakdown. Thanks Greg, 411 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: Thanks Colin, really appreciate it. For the record. It is 412 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: now if you ask me, okay, it's a blowout. Yeah, 413 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: I would take Seattle. I could see Seattle's defensive front 414 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: just wearing out Will Campbell. I could see, you know, 415 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: one little injury on the O line for the Patriots 416 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: and a line that's struggling. 417 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:58,959 Speaker 4: It's man overboard. 418 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 1: In fact, James mac just told me there's an alternative 419 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: bet you can make. 420 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 4: I think this is an interesting one. Yeah, there's old lines. 421 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 7: You could bet Seattle minus ten and a half, Seattle 422 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 7: minus fourteen and a half. And if you believe, like 423 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 7: you said, Patriots offensive line struggles, you know, go look 424 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 7: at the Patriots who they played down the stretch. A 425 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 7: lot of backup quarterbacks, a lot of coaches that got fired, 426 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 7: didn't look great. And you know, I think Seattle could 427 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 7: easily win this twenty seven to seven in kind of 428 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 7: a beat down like Drake made, chasing against that pressure. 429 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 4: I don't know, Colin, I don't see it. 430 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 7: I'm starting to lean Seattle blow out here. 431 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 4: I did call Eagles blowout over the. 432 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 7: Chiefs last too, was it last year? 433 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 6: Yeah? 434 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: That takes courage. Yeah, I don't have the courage. I'm 435 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: calling it low scoring and close. 436 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,119 Speaker 7: Let's put my money where my mouth is, and my 437 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 7: mouth is a lot of talk. 438 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 4: A lot of trash. 439 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 2: But I do like Seattle. 440 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 4: Considering your bitcoin losses. 441 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 7: I have suffered some bitcoin losses in the last three months. 442 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 7: You know, I'm gonna go back to my job at 443 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 7: Burger King on weekends. 444 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 5: So nothing wrong. Workers see what happens. 445 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 446 00:23:58,119 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: and Noone Easter not Am Pacific. 447 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,919 Speaker 1: Well, we've talked about over the I mean I've been 448 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: a Sam Donald fan for a long time since USC 449 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: but that you know, you have to be careful about judging, 450 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: especially the quarterback position early. So much of it's a journey. 451 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: You can look at Baker Mayfield, it was success, it 452 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: was bumpy. Then McVeigh wants him, and then he gets 453 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: Dave Kanalis and he gets Liam Cohen. It is a 454 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,360 Speaker 1: position that is sometimes very dependent on your left tackle 455 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: and your offensive coordinator. And when you think of Donald's 456 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: journey and you think, wow, what a crazy journey for 457 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:37,600 Speaker 1: Sam Donald, double it and add another thirty percent. And 458 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: that's the journey of Ryan Fitzpatrick, who now does a 459 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 1: great job on Amazon Prime Thursday night football analysts, very outspoken, 460 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,439 Speaker 1: starting quarterback for nine different teams, which is a record. 461 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: You know what's really interesting is I always think when 462 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 1: guys go to Harvard and then end up in the NFL, 463 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: they always get short changed because everybody's like, well, yeah, 464 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: he's small, and I've said this about you multiple times. 465 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: I'm like, Ryan Fitzpatrick has a lot of Donald is 466 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: that he's really athletic, strong, thick. Sometimes that aggressiveness got 467 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: even a little trouble. But I mean, I do think 468 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 1: that you've got some Sam Is that you were never 469 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: afraid to let it rip, You had a very short memory. 470 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: Teammates really liked you, So I would guess Ryan, you 471 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: would appreciate Darnald to some degree. 472 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 5: Oh. 473 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 10: I love Sam and I've known him since his rookie 474 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 10: year and so always been a fan. 475 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 5: But it's not easy. It's not easy to get picked 476 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 5: that high and. 477 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 10: To fail right, and he failed in New York and 478 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 10: the biggest media market. I think the smartest thing that 479 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 10: Sam did when he went to San Francisco, he took 480 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 10: a step back. 481 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 5: He wanted to. 482 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 10: Insert himself into the McVeigh Shanahan tree. 483 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 5: He did that. 484 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 10: He meets Clint Kubiak there, and I love that he 485 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 10: talks about how much he learn from being in San Francisco, 486 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 10: from watching brock Purty, even though brock Perty's younger than him, 487 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 10: in the way that he operated, and then to take 488 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 10: those tools and to apply him the rest of the 489 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 10: way in his journey. 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You do it 512 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 8: today and you can check all of those out on 513 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 8: the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. 514 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: You know, you know, you go and look at your 515 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 1: career and I said this earlier, you weren't a people 516 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: could say, well, Ryan was a bounce around the league. Gut. 517 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: Now you started for nine different teams. You are a 518 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:49,480 Speaker 1: starting quarterback. In fact, I've said, if you ever want 519 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: to go win money at a bar, just ask them 520 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: most consecutive four hundred yard games ever by a quarterback. 521 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 4: You're gonna You're gonna want to get us or eight? 522 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 1: On that question is I do think it's harder when 523 00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: people like you and Sam move well. So you were 524 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: probably great in high school, you dominate college, You go 525 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: to the NFL, you have big I remember you had 526 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: a September with Buffalo one year. 527 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 4: You were absolutely on fire. 528 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:17,479 Speaker 1: What is the line that you self manage that you 529 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: were in a game all of a sudden, Ryan, you 530 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: have hit eight straight passes. You are feeling it. It's 531 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: seventy two, it's Buffalo, you're beating New England. How do 532 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 1: you turn down the governor? Because I watch Sam sometimes 533 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: and he can get a bit forre neetic. But I 534 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: watch him and I'm like, sometimes I think you gotta 535 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: let Sam be Sam. 536 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 4: You add some of that. Is that a hard thing 537 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:39,479 Speaker 4: to do? 538 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: If, even if you respect your coach, is it hard 539 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: sometimes to turn that governor down in big emotional. 540 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 10: Games, Colin, I never found a way to turn it down. 541 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 10: You know, I'll tell you you have to. You do 542 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 10: have to rely on your coach for a lot of that. 543 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 5: Though. 544 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 10: I think that's why it's important that there is a 545 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 10: previous relationship with Clint Kobiak and Sam Arnold. Clinton knows 546 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 10: Sam well, and he has to know in those moments 547 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 10: what Sam's feeling, what Sam's gonna do. There's play calls 548 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 10: that you have dialed up for this super Bowl that 549 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 10: you've been working on for two weeks, and sometimes you've 550 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 10: been working on the whole year and you just haven't 551 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 10: had a chance to call him that are going. 552 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 5: To get dialed up in particular moments. 553 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 10: And when they get dialed up, Clint and Sam have 554 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 10: already had the conversations. 555 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 5: Look, Clint, if you. 556 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 10: Call this play and it's one on one, we're putting 557 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 10: it down the field. And so Clint has to know 558 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 10: on certain situations and certain plays. If I call this, 559 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 10: I know we're taking a shot. I know we're going 560 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 10: to be really aggressive. So he has a better idea 561 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,959 Speaker 10: of how to turn it up and down with Sam 562 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 10: as the game goes on. And it's a really important 563 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 10: relationship quarterback and play caller. 564 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, you overlapped with Rabel and Houston. Mike's really bright. 565 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: He also has a quality. I love that he's confrontational 566 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: but doesn't hold grudges. I like that quo. I mean 567 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: Mike is he'll I mean he'll poke. He used to 568 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: poke Belichick in the ribs, but Mike doesn't. He got 569 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: mad at me about a year ago on something. He 570 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: doesn't hold grudges, and I think that's just a good 571 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: human quality when you see I think, I don't think 572 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: Ryan you can fake toughness with players or that you 573 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: really care about him. You either care you don't, and 574 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: players can sniff that crap out in a second. There's 575 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,400 Speaker 1: something about Vrabel and I don't know if you felt 576 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: that that overlap in Houston. I just think players know 577 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 1: he loves them, and I don't think you can fake. 578 00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: You can fake some stuff, I don't think you can 579 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: fake that Yeah. I think the word we're looking for 580 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: is authenticity. I mean, he has it. And the thing 581 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: that Mike does so well though it's a blend. 582 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 10: Because we always talk about Belichick and all of his disciples, 583 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 10: and he never coached for Belichick, but he played for him. 584 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 10: But the problem is that all the Belichick disciples they 585 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 10: try to be Bill They try to have that hard line, 586 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 10: I'm your coach and you're my player. And Mike has 587 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 10: done such a great job of navigating line to where 588 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 10: he's played in the league. He's got instant respect because 589 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 10: he's been through everything you're going through, all the shit 590 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 10: in training camp that you're going through, the tough times, 591 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 10: the injuries, and playing through it. Mike's already done all 592 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 10: of that as a player. He knows what you're going through. 593 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 10: But he has a clear vision. He's authentic, and he's 594 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 10: also very consistent in what he's demanding out of these players. 595 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 10: And that's why it works so well with him. 596 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: You know, I said, I'm from the Pacific Northwest, and 597 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: I said, guys, I know Seattle plays at a different 598 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: speed than almost every team in the league. And you 599 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: you know on Thursday Night Football, Ryan, you've seen both 600 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 1: these teams. You watch a lot of football, you know 601 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,600 Speaker 1: the culture of New England. But I said, there's some 602 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: value in being told for two weeks you could get 603 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: run over by the Seahawks. Yeah, And I got to 604 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: tell you, I think what's happened, Ryan is we've watched 605 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: New England for a month and they keep playing in 606 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: blizzards against good defenses. So everybody now thinks, Drake Man, 607 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: the offense stinks, And I'm like, guy, they dropped thirty 608 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: one on Buffalo. You just it's recency bias. I think 609 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: New England's got a real shot here. 610 00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 4: I really. 611 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, the tenth Super Bowl for 612 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 1: Josh mcdan. You can't tell me that's not an advantage. 613 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: How do you see the game? 614 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 10: Yeah, I think what you're talking about them being told 615 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 10: that they're not belonging in this game. But it's also 616 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 10: Seattle listening to that, right, And then all of a sudden, 617 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 10: we get through the first quarter and we get to 618 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 10: halftime and the game is still close, and Seattle's been 619 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 10: being told all week long like it shouldn't be close. 620 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 10: I think the big thing is going to be early 621 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 10: in this game. When you watch that Seattle San Fran game, 622 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 10: We've got the kickoff return for a touchdown, and then 623 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 10: we've got the fumble by San Fran. All of a sudden, 624 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 10: you look up at the scoreboard and Seattle's winning seventeen. 625 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 10: Nothing could that happen in this game? It sure could, 626 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 10: because Seattle's that good. But I think you're right. I'm 627 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 10: favoring and leaning towards the New England Patriots because I 628 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 10: think the longer this thing is the game, they're going 629 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 10: to shorten the game on offense. Forere Monja Stevenson is 630 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 10: going to have a ton of carries. Josh McDaniels is 631 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 10: the X factor in this game. He's been in a 632 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 10: bunch of these. Drake May has a calmness about him. 633 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 10: When Josh is calling the place, he's going to put 634 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,719 Speaker 10: him in good situations. I think the New England Patriots 635 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 10: going to win this game. 636 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: How about that? The you know so interesting about quarterbacks. 637 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: They're they're tall, they're big, they moved their pocket. Your 638 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: personality is totally different than Kirk Cousins. You know, It's 639 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: just it's it's one of the things I love about 640 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: this league. But I do think Fernando Mendoz I'm interested 641 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: on your opinion. Fernando Mendoza I heard I heard this 642 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: once from a quarterback coach. He said, it doesn't matter 643 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: what your personality is, but you can't be a chameleon. 644 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: You have to be what you are and you and 645 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: if people think Russell Wilson had a little bit of 646 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 1: this where people didn't always buy the authenticity of it. 647 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,200 Speaker 1: You're a quirky guy, but that's who you are, and 648 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: people buy that. I watch Fernando Mendoza and I could 649 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: see or a pro athlete would go, man, this is 650 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: a little cringe, and I'm like, Okay, he may be 651 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: mister Rogers a little, but there's something I love about 652 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: his willingness to just put it all out there. 653 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 4: And I don't know, I don't know. 654 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously he's a tall guy, can a move, 655 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 1: And I think his personality is an advantage is that 656 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 1: he seems so optimistic and grateful and this league just 657 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: beats the hell out of you. And he just looks 658 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: like a guy that could go one in sixteen and 659 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: would be in a great so much of this league 660 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: is just keeping your head right. 661 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 4: What do you make of him? 662 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 2: Yeah? 663 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 10: I do think there's I've never met him, but he 664 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 10: looks real. It looks authentic, and it is easy to 665 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,719 Speaker 10: be happy when you win all your games, right, So 666 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 10: I would love to see him in an adverse situation 667 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 10: to see how that goes. But I think what players 668 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 10: really are drawn to with quarterbacks is are you the 669 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 10: hardest working guy on the team. Are you somebody that's 670 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 10: gonna demand a lot of me and demand a lot 671 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 10: of yourself? And when we go out there. I mean, 672 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 10: people obviously love winning, but can you command a huddle? 673 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:05,520 Speaker 10: Can you sit in a huddle and make those other 674 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,360 Speaker 10: ten guys believe that you're going to win this football 675 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 10: game when they look at you in the eyes and 676 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 10: you call play? And I think that's one of the 677 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 10: most important things in a quarterback. Again, he had an 678 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 10: unbelievable season. I don't know him, but I love I 679 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 10: think his personality is infectious. I mean, he looks like 680 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,239 Speaker 10: a goober a little bit and he's talking, but I 681 00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 10: mean it is Guys are going to gravitate and love it, 682 00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 10: especially if he has the work ethic to back it up. 683 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 1: Well, you've really become you. And the Amazon I just 684 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: saw Richard Sherman last night. They've put a collection of 685 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: unique personalities, and you have crushed it on Amazon Prime. 686 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 5: You really have. 687 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: And I see here today you are and this is 688 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 1: the most fitting advertiser of any guest I've ever had 689 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: on my show in the history of my thirty three 690 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 1: year career and Super Bowl interviews. You are doing work 691 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: for the Aruba Tourism Authority, and I completely buy it. 692 00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 1: I know, just talk about Aru. I'm going to a Guila. 693 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: I've never gone there, so I'm in March. Tell me 694 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 1: about Aruba. 695 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:08,680 Speaker 5: Aruba's incredible, is great. 696 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 10: They gave me this shirt and I pretty much already 697 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 10: had the same one in my closet. So but my 698 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 10: wife and I went, and we've got seven kids Colin, 699 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 10: so very rarely are we going. 700 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 5: On a vacation with just the two of us. 701 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 10: We've been married for almost twenty years and this was 702 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 10: one of the first times we've been off together, so 703 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 10: it had to be a special place. They call Aruba 704 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 10: one happy Island for a reason. It has the white 705 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 10: sand beaches, but it also has the adventure, you know, 706 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 10: going on the hikes, doing the natural swimming pools, doing 707 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 10: the snorkeling, so it was very refreshing. We came back, 708 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,080 Speaker 10: we felt lighter, we felt happier, we felt rejuvenated. But 709 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 10: would recommend it to anybody that's thinking about going down 710 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 10: to a tropical place. 711 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 5: Aruba is incredible. 712 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: Well, I hope people appreciate you. You just ended up 713 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 1: being just a your passion for I see it in broadcasting. 714 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: Your passion for football and your pass for what you 715 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,480 Speaker 1: do just jumps. It's like a strong drink. It hits 716 00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: you right through the TV. You've got a great sense 717 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: of humor and I'm really happy for you Ryan. You've 718 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: done You've done well for yourself, not surprising. 719 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 10: Thank you, Colin, and we have, of course Carissa Thompson 720 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 10: to wrangle us all in. She's amazing and it's been 721 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,280 Speaker 10: awesome for us on Thursday night football. 722 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:21,400 Speaker 4: Yeah she is. 723 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,839 Speaker 1: By the way, what was the hardest class you ever 724 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: took at Harvard? 725 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,680 Speaker 5: I get that a lot. I don't know. 726 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 10: Some econ class probably, But I'll tell you what. My 727 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 10: son is there now, he's a freshman, and he sends 728 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,880 Speaker 10: me the chalkboard in his Math fifty five class of 729 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 10: the teacher up there grinding and writing and there aren't 730 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 10: any numbers and it's a math class. So I don't 731 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,680 Speaker 10: know what he's learning or what they're teaching him, but 732 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 10: it is way above my head. 733 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 4: Say hi to the crew. Thanks buddy, thank you so much. 734 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 5: Thank you. We'll see it. 735 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: Colin all right, Ryan Fitzpatrick, he's really a credit. He's 736 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 1: just done a terrific job. They put all sorts of 737 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: different personalities on that. 738 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 5: Good for that. 739 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,440 Speaker 1: And Curse is great. We know her well here on 740 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,920 Speaker 1: the show. Okay, I'm gonna do my take your pick. 741 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: I took both these teams and these units and all 742 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,960 Speaker 1: of them quarterbacks and coaching and all this stuff. By 743 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,399 Speaker 1: the way, we have I've been doing this for a while. 744 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 5: Right. 745 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: This is my favorite week of guests I have ever 746 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: had during a Super Bowl. We have had more thoughtful, 747 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,760 Speaker 1: smart guests than any like Yesterday was amazing. Today Liam 748 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: Cohen's unbelievable, and Ryan Fitzpatrick and Aiden Hushison. 749 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 4: And they're swearing on the air. I mean we've had more. 750 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 4: I love it. 751 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: We have had multiple words that you know, people get 752 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: uncomfortable with, and I am here for it. 753 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 4: Great job. Everybody live in LA. 754 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:40,920 Speaker 5: It's the hurt