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Speaker 1: What's up everybody? John Middle Coop three and Out Podcast.

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Speaker 1: Back at it again. I usually wait till the Monday

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Speaker 1: night football game is over. Uh, they've been pretty good

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Speaker 1: to the Warriors game. This is a blowout. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: get into Drew Brees. He obviously had a historic night. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton and just Carolina is just always a topic

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Speaker 1: We have the tickets. Um Drew Brees took out Paid

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Speaker 1: Manning's record tonight, uh for yards. It was pretty cool halftime,

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Speaker 1: right before halftime, it was really cool. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: was just a very very cool sports moment. Anyone, regardless

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Speaker 1: of who you're a fan of what I think, agree

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Speaker 1: with that and one one of the great sports arguments

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Speaker 1: in just one of just the great arguments in American history.

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Speaker 1: Now football is not as hasn't been going as long

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Speaker 1: as America has been around in seventeen seventy six. But

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Speaker 1: we know where I'm getting at is arguing over what

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Speaker 1: quarterback is better. I would say over the last four

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Speaker 1: or five years, Brady has basically cemented like there is

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Speaker 1: no argument anymore with Brady and Montana. And there's listen.

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Speaker 1: I'm up northern California. I grew up a Niner fan.

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Speaker 1: It ain't an argument anymore. Brady one Montana too. Then

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Speaker 1: I think the next like five or six guys, you know,

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Speaker 1: like you know, the the the Auto Grams and how

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Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable commenting on them. So of the

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Speaker 1: there would be an argument to be made for Marino, Elway, Manning, Rogers,

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Speaker 1: And I was a sucker for Steve Young, but those

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Speaker 1: people would take Brett Farve. So I'd say Drew Brees

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Speaker 1: Four bills in games. I went back to two thousand

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Speaker 1: But Drew Brees has been throwing up these video game

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Speaker 1: Manning won two Super Bowls, but his second Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: he lost. Guess who beat him. His name was Drew Brees.

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Speaker 1: And I just think that the natural reaction from a

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Speaker 1: Because Roger is a tough argument because Rodgers is like,

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Speaker 1: Roger's more talented than Brady. I even thinking that new

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Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, he just did it longer,

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Speaker 1: he ain't going anywhere. Who who's to say they couldn't

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Speaker 1: Let's say he beats I don't know, Tom Brady this year.

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Speaker 1: You've been in the playoffs countless number of times, all

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Speaker 1: Jason Garrett, even where even if he thought, like what

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Speaker 1: if I could find the next Sean McVeigh, well, still

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Speaker 1: that transition of learning a new Sean McVeigh, learning how

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Speaker 1: they tick, that guy, learning how he ticks. Obviously his

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Speaker 1: family runs a huge part of the Cowboys is probably

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Speaker 1: not something Jerry wants to do. And again, Jason Garrett

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Speaker 1: deserves to lose his job. He stinks he's terrible. But

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Speaker 1: we all know people. Whether it's your grandparents, whether it's

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Speaker 1: you listening. Probably not you listening because most of my

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Speaker 1: my demo excuse a little younger. But whether it's your

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Speaker 1: parents when they get in their seventies, whether they're a

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Speaker 1: multimillionaire whether they just blue collar or normal guy whoever

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Speaker 1: they are, that is not the time of their life

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Speaker 1: when they're just open to change. Even if things aren't

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Speaker 1: going well, they'll just like, screw it, I'll go down

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Speaker 1: with the ship. You know. Now you could argue like

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Speaker 1: is the new uh? And but Jerry's pretty weathered s

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Speaker 1: ob you know. I mean, I think he drinks a lot.

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Speaker 1: He gets after it now somehow. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: pills he's taken, but he sure result is a lot

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Speaker 1: of energy and it ain't just coffee. But I I

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Speaker 1: think Jerry is dreading the day of firing Jason Garrett.

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Speaker 1: I think it's one of the things in his life

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Speaker 1: that brings him just great stress. It would have to be,

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Speaker 1: because I can't imagine at that age thinking of like

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Speaker 1: I don't want to start over, and what if we

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Speaker 1: got to take even a step back to take two

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Speaker 1: steps forwards in three years and he might be thinking

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Speaker 1: I might not even be around that. I I don't

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Speaker 1: think Jason Garrett is locked to get fired this year.

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Speaker 1: I think it's really the last thing Jerry wants to do.

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Speaker 1: Jerry is open to doing business deals till the cows

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Speaker 1: come home, but this is the one business deal. And

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Speaker 1: again it does kind of make sense when you just

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Speaker 1: think about it at his age, Like if you're Steven Jones,

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Speaker 1: he Steven Jones probably wouldn't hesitate if it was his call,

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Speaker 1: just get a new coach in here. But it's not

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Speaker 1: Steven's call yet. As long as Jerry's heart still taking

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Speaker 1: and he's still walking around, he'd a boss of that

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Speaker 1: place and he's got the final say. Now, he may

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Speaker 1: let Stephen override him when it comes to taking Johnny

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Speaker 1: Manzel and they'll take an offensive lineman or you know whatever.

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Speaker 1: But I think when it comes to the head coach

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Speaker 1: that that ain't something that Jerry's gonna do that whatever

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Speaker 1: he wants to do and for whatever reason, and I

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Speaker 1: think I know whatever reason, it's not because I think

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Speaker 1: he thinks Jason Garrett is Vince Lombardi or Bill Parcels.

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Speaker 1: I think because it's easy for Jerry and it's just

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Speaker 1: something that Jerry feels comfortable with, which beside him, it's

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Speaker 1: the most in the quarterback is the most important guy

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Speaker 1: of his team. Like you get a new coach in

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Speaker 1: what if that coach doesn't like Dak, what if that

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Speaker 1: coach wants to trade dead. You see it all all

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Speaker 1: these places all over the league. New coaches come in,

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Speaker 1: they want to change things. It's just a natural coaching environment.

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Speaker 1: They want their players from previous stops. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if Jerry wants to go through with that. And that's

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Speaker 1: why I think Jason Garrett, even on a terrible season

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Speaker 1: this year, could win five or six games, somehow survives

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Speaker 1: in two thousand nineteen. A couple of things really quick

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Speaker 1: before we get in the Middlecoff mail back. I've never

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Speaker 1: been the biggest Cam Newton guy. I'm not the biggest

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Speaker 1: fan of roller coaster rides. When it comes to my quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I like the guy to be just even if you're

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Speaker 1: slow and steady, just get me to the end. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know of the finish line. And Cam Newton is

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Speaker 1: just one of the all time great roller coaster rides

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Speaker 1: in NFL history. Because I will not dispute. When Cam

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Speaker 1: is on, he is as talented as anyone in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: A good Cam Newton game, Uh, can can beat Brady,

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Speaker 1: can beat Breeze, can beat Rogers. Remember I mean last

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Speaker 1: year he went toe to toe with Breese. He's he's

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Speaker 1: awesome when he's on the problem is he's liable to

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Speaker 1: throw two or three picks in a game. For the

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Speaker 1: most part this year, he's been pretty under control. He

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Speaker 1: did throw a couple of picks against the Giants kind

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Speaker 1: of kept him in the game. But I gotta give

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Speaker 1: Cams do he's playing a lot better. He's also better.

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Speaker 1: Like the one thing is like when Peyton or Breezes

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Speaker 1: or Rogers, like, they don't need a good running game.

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Speaker 1: They don't need a good defense like Cam does. Uh, Cam,

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Speaker 1: you know, to consistently be on a good team. And

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Speaker 1: this year right now, I looked it up because I

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Speaker 1: was like, well, I know, just watching him play, he's

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Speaker 1: playing well. But how's their running game doing this year? Well,

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Speaker 1: they're averaging five yards to carry right now, which is

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Speaker 1: top five in the NFL. They're averaging a hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty four yards per game, which is number one in

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Speaker 1: the NFL right now. So as we've seen when they

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Speaker 1: can and Cam's a part of that because Cam runs.

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Speaker 1: But Christian McCaffrey has been a you know, much closer

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Speaker 1: to the guy they thought they were getting, you know,

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Speaker 1: when they drafted in the top ten than the Christian

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey that we saw uh, last year, and it's a

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Speaker 1: big difference. It's been what you'd want out of drafting

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Speaker 1: a guy you know in the top ten. They're also

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Speaker 1: good on defense. They are they're scoring. They're scoring defense

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Speaker 1: right now is right around ten at I think it's

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Speaker 1: like eleven or twelve twenty two points a game. But

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Speaker 1: overall points, they've given up ninety one overall points, which

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Speaker 1: is in the top ten, and they get they gave

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Speaker 1: up thirty one points on Sunday, so the number skewed

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Speaker 1: a little bit. They've been playing good defenses. Like, I

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Speaker 1: don't care anymore in two thousand eighteen how many yards

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Speaker 1: your defense gives up. Belichick always believe that, like, who

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Speaker 1: cares about how many you could average the most yards

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Speaker 1: per game? If you're scoring defense in the top ten,

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Speaker 1: who cares you score get yards on me all day long?

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Speaker 1: Do I not allow points? That's the point of the game.

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Speaker 1: And the Carolina Panthers, I'm telling you, are kind of

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Speaker 1: built to last. They are not gonna go away. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna look up and they're gonna win eleven or twelve games.

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Speaker 1: And Cam's just slow and steady. They can run the

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Speaker 1: ball and they can play defense. Now are they gonna

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Speaker 1: win the NFC. I don't like him as much as

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Speaker 1: l A. I don't like him as much as New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: Uh I think Chicago. The Carolina would just have such

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Speaker 1: an advantage against the Bears in a playoff game at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but Chicago Bears defense would give Cam trouble. I probably

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Speaker 1: like him more than any NFC East team, uh So.

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Speaker 1: I think the Carolina Panthers are a playoff team like

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Speaker 1: they were last year, and they would be in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs six I think of the last seven years, Ron Rivera,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he makes the playoffs all the time. Might

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Speaker 1: be one of the more underrated coaches in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: We never talked about Ron Rivera, but keep keeping it

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Speaker 1: North Turner. That has been a good hire for the

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Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. Like I, I think the Panthers, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of weird. They're flying under the radar right now and

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Speaker 1: they're playing pretty good. One team that's not flying under

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Speaker 1: the radar and they never do is the Eagles. Obviously

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Speaker 1: they're defending chance, but they are one of the more

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Speaker 1: talked about teams in the league pretty consistently, especially Carson Wentz.

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Speaker 1: Right now, they're not playing well, there there, two and three.

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Speaker 1: They have a million injuries today. It came out the

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Speaker 1: JGI towards a c L. They also redid Fletcher Cox's

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Speaker 1: contract to gain like six or seven million dollars of

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Speaker 1: cap space. And then Schefter said, well, it's not because

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Speaker 1: they're gonna go after Levion Bell. But trust me, I've

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Speaker 1: known how he roseman now a long time. I have obviously,

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Speaker 1: you know, like any fan, follow his career, just the

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Speaker 1: way he operates, and he is a wheeler and a dealer,

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Speaker 1: and they just didn't do that randomly. I don't have

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Speaker 1: this is not inside in for I don't know. Uh.

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Speaker 1: If Scheffer said they're not going after Levion Bell, they're

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Speaker 1: not going after Leffion Bell, but they got something, you know,

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Speaker 1: up their sleeve, I would also just not count them out.

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Speaker 1: The NFC stinks. You saw the Washington Redskins, and I

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Speaker 1: actually think are okay, but their ceiling it's limited with

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Speaker 1: Alex Smiths the quarterback. The New York Giants are in

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Speaker 1: shambles that they're one and four and Eli Mannings their quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And the Dallas Cowboys just suck. There's their defense is good,

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Speaker 1: but their offense is just met and Jason Garrett is met.

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Speaker 1: So the Eagles are gonna win that division. I am

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Speaker 1: pretty confident on that They're gonna get guys back. On offense.

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Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is also just gonna play better. I think

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Speaker 1: the Eagles are gonna be fine when it's all said

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Speaker 1: and done. Uh, they still have the best quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the division. People forget this because of the day and

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Speaker 1: age we live in that you just kind of like

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Speaker 1: discount A c L injuries. Kerson Wentz tore his a

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Speaker 1: c L last year and not like last year in

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Speaker 1: the summer last year, at like the end of November,

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Speaker 1: it might have even been early December, like it really was.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of crazy that he just came back so seamlessly,

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Speaker 1: and when I've watched him, it's like, yeah, he's had

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Speaker 1: some hit and misplays, but for the most part, given

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Speaker 1: especially on a team that I mean Alsa Jeffrey when

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Speaker 1: he got back was not around. Uh, they're running backs

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Speaker 1: for all hurt. He still has zach Ertzon and Nelson Aghilar,

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Speaker 1: but Lane Johnson has not been the same guy. Carson

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Speaker 1: Wentz has been getting destroyed back there, and and I

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Speaker 1: give them somewhat of a pass in the Minnesota game,

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Speaker 1: not just Carson, but the entire team. Like Minnesota was

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Speaker 1: one two and one. If they lost that game and

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Speaker 1: went one three and one with Chicago at three and

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Speaker 1: one coming off of bye, and they would be then

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Speaker 1: kind of a game behind Green. They would have been

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Speaker 1: in shambles, and especially because the NFC has a lot

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Speaker 1: of good teams record wise, that it would have been

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Speaker 1: hard for them to make the playoffs at one three

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Speaker 1: and one. Now they're two two and one and in

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Speaker 1: pretty good shape. You look at their next two games

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Speaker 1: will probably end up being four two and one, and

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Speaker 1: they'll right this ship. But Minnesota had to win that game.

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Speaker 1: Philly did not have to win. So I know it

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Speaker 1: was at home. I know it feels like a big loss,

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Speaker 1: but I think the Eagles will get it right back

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Speaker 1: on track when they play the Giants this Thursday night. Again,

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Speaker 1: I am pretty confident. I'm not right enough the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: They're not as good as they were last year. They

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna win Super Bowl, but I

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Speaker 1: think they'll make the playoffs when it's all said and done. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's get into my favorite time in the week Middlecoff

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Speaker 1: mail Bag. The way I'm doing this now. If you've

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Speaker 1: been listening to the podcast for a long time, used

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Speaker 1: to do it off iTunes to put it in the

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Speaker 1: review section. Now it's just way easier to just go

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Speaker 1: to my Instagram at John Middlecoff and slide up in

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Speaker 1: my d M s and leave a question. And that's

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Speaker 1: that's where I get to you at John Middlecoffs same

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Speaker 1: as my Twitter handle, and I will there's my phone

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Speaker 1: buzzing right now, and I will get to your questions. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's start with the with Pierre. My question is this,

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Speaker 1: do you think that the running back rotation in Indie

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Speaker 1: Mac Turbin, Wilkins, Hynes can provide what Luck needs down

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Speaker 1: the line in terms of high level running play. I'll

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Speaker 1: be honest, I didn't know much about Hines until watching

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Speaker 1: him on that Thursday night game, and I know they

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Speaker 1: It looks like an interesting guy, uh not the biggest

640
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: Mac guy. Turbin does nothing for me. I know Wilkins

641
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: had the bad fumble against the Patriots. Listen, man, you

642
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: you don't need four running backs in two thousand eighteen.

643
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: Like you should be able to draft, especially the Colts,

644
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: one in the second or third round. Just be your dude.

645
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: You know you should be able to find a Shady McCoy,

646
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: a Levan Bell, a David Johnson in the third round,

647
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: a guy for Andrew Luck to just use. I mean

648
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: to me, like, should they go after Levian Bell in

649
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: this offseason. I don't know if it's a great culture fit,

650
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: but they could surely use them. I mean, Andrew Luck

651
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: is a phenomenal player, but but he needs help because

652
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: right now they're wide receivers. When t Y Hilton is

653
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: out is just an embarrassment to football. And the running

654
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: backs actually aren't terrible, they really aren't. Those guys four

655
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 1: guys together. But when Andrew lux or quarterback, I mean,

656
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: get him, someone, get him. Draft a guy high. That

657
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: would be my thing. Just just draft a guy high. Okay,

658
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: with all the noise around the Clemsons quarterbacks, do you

659
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: think that Trevor Lawrence, the true freshman, is now being underrated,

660
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: especially with the injury in his first start, Because to me,

661
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: he's a lot to be the number one overall pick

662
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,320
Speaker 1: in two thousand and twenty with all the gifts he has,

663
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: and speaking of the freshman quarterbacks, so Georgia potentially do

664
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: what Clemson did and make it an open quarterback competition

665
00:35:25,480 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: between From and Fields. I understand that from his talent

666
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: that is going to be in the NFL one day.

667
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: But Fields an Elite eleven m VP and closest thing

668
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: we've ever seen to Russell Wilson. I'll be honest, I

669
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: haven't seen that much of Fields. I've only really watched

670
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: one Georgia game and he kind of came in sparingly.

671
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: I'm with you. From people asked you were like, oh,

672
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: he's gonna be an NFL starter. Like, you know, the

673
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: more I watched him, he's like a better version of

674
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: Aaron Murray. You know, he doesn't have a great arm.

675
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 1: It's not bad. I do think he's probably a mid

676
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: round draft pick now with all the talent they have.

677
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,239
Speaker 1: He did get them to the National Championship Game last year,

678
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: so it's you never know. I mean, it just depends

679
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: how this season plays out. You know, do they beat Florida,

680
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 1: do they beat Alabama? Do they make a run in

681
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: the playoffs, Because I'm with you a little bit. I've

682
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: seen a fields he clearly, I mean, he has a hose,

683
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: big time athlete, he's clearly pretty special. I just struggle

684
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: when the guy is a true freshman in football, it's

685
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 1: so much harder than like in basketball, you know right away,

686
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: like you see Marvin Bagley or you see you know.

687
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm just using the guys that come to my mind

688
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: in basketball in recent memory, Karl Anthony Town's Anthony Davis,

689
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: like you see them a month or two. DeAndre Ayton

690
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: last year, you know right away, like that guy's a lock,

691
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: top two or three pick. In football, we've seen it

692
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: several years ago with Christian Hackenburg that I thought there

693
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: was no chance on Guy's Green Earth, he wasn't gonna

694
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: be a lock pick, and he turns out to just

695
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: be a royal bus. Now his coach did leave. But

696
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, I said the same thing about Josh Rosen

697
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. I thought he was a

698
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: lock to be the number one overall pick. Now he

699
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: still went tenth. You know, but I think with football

700
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: you get so many late risers. No one on God's

701
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 1: Green Earth two years ago would have said Baker Mayfield

702
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: would be the number one overall pick. Nobody he was

703
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. Obviously you know that if

704
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: you're listening. But my point is that just things get

705
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: kind of crazy, things get kind of weird. I'm with you, though,

706
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: I mean you just watch him. Just his physical size.

707
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,319
Speaker 1: I mean he looks just eyeball on him, six four

708
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,320
Speaker 1: or six five. He has a cannon, and he's playing

709
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: for a football factory. So I don't think it's crazy

710
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: that he's the number one overall pick. If I had

711
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: to bet, you know, you said, let's make this interesting.

712
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: A thousand dollars what I bet on him being the

713
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: number one overall pick, or what I bet on him

714
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: being too through you know whatever, thirty I would probably

715
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Speaker 1: go to through thirty just because the numbers would be

716
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: on my side. It's rare that you see a guy

717
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: like how often as a guy come as a true

718
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: freshman and just maintain it for three years. These guys

719
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 1: get picked apart, injuries happened. I mean, he already played

720
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: his first already got hurt. So again, I'm with you,

721
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 1: I mean, he he has the number one overall ability attributes,

722
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: but so did Josh Rosen, and ship just changed he

723
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: got her personality stuff came out again. I don't know

724
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: anything about Trevor Lawrence off the field, but I don't

725
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: feel confident anymore just making bold statements like that with

726
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: college quarterbacks at eighteen years old, because I've made him

727
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: before and I've been way off. I'd also would have said,

728
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: if you would have brought up Baker Mayfield a couple

729
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: of years ago, I would have said, he's probably like

730
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 1: a mid round pick. Even by the start of the year.

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Speaker 1: Last year when it was clear, like against Ohio State,

732
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: you're like, God, Baker Mayfield has gotten a lot better.

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Speaker 1: I would have been like, yeah, I'll probably go like

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Speaker 1: pick fifteen to thirty. And then it just ship changes quickly,

735
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: you know, with these during the draft process. Then all

736
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden it was like, God, Baker Mayfield is

737
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: gonna go in the top ten. Got Baker Mayfield went

738
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Speaker 1: number one overall. Here's the other thing. You get quarterbacks

739
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: like a Josh Allen that you don't know that much about,

740
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: that are at random small schools that have these physical

741
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 1: traits now that go really really high, so that there

742
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: might be a Josh Allen at you know, some North

743
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: Dakota or just some random school that we don't even

744
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: know about yet that that goes super high. It's just

745
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: it's hard, So I would lean know just on statistical

746
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,799
Speaker 1: chances of just things changing. Hey, John Big hello from Brisbane, Australia.

747
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: Got we got an international fan base here as a

748
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,880
Speaker 1: Patriot fan, can you tell me why our pass rush

749
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: is so bad and what we can start doing to

750
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: get pressure on the quarterback? Well? Watching the game this week,

751
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: they played Chandler Jones and it wasn't even close. Chandler

752
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: Jones was the best player at Levi Stadium on Sunday.

753
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: Now the barslow. Not many good players in the Niners

754
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: and really not many good players in the Cardinals. But

755
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: he's really, really good. He's an absolute freak. And he

756
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: was on the Patriots a couple of years ago and

757
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: they traded him. Now, I've always supported Belichick for trading him.

758
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,959
Speaker 1: He went in naked high to a jail like that's

759
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,480
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick's gonna trade you when that happens. But I

760
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: would say this, they just don't have blue chip talent

761
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: up front. They never draft high enough to draft a

762
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: suite defensive lineman, you know, in the top ten, and

763
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: that's usually where guys go. They don't spend that much

764
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: in free agency, so they're not ever gonna pay like

765
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: Olivier Vernon no Dominican sue. The only way they're ever

766
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 1: gonna get a guy like that is like they did

767
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: with Reeva's you know, they get you when you cut

768
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 1: from another team, and they can pay a small amount.

769
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 1: So the only way to get a blue chip pass

770
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,240
Speaker 1: rusher is to either draft him super high, Von Miller,

771
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: Khalil Mack, Aaron Donald you know a guy like that,

772
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 1: or pay huge money in free agency for a guy

773
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,800
Speaker 1: that's probably not totally worth it. And Bill is definitely

774
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: not for doing that. So I think it's way more

775
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: personnel than it is scheme. Like Belichick knows what he's doing.

776
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: He's one of the great defensive minds in the Like

777
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: what he's good at at his profession is better than

778
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 1: of people of people in their professions. Like he is

779
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: the equivalent to like the Steve Jobs of his profession.

780
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: Like that that that's what he is, you know, Like

781
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 1: he's Jeff Bezos of the Internet, Zuckerberg of social media.

782
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: Like that's what that's where Belichick is. So he gets it.

783
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 1: But you can't just generate pass rush Ski Like it's

784
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: somewhat to me much more about the Jimmy's and the

785
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 1: jos and the excess and the Ohs. Like there's like

786
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor. I mean, I could coach him, he's getting

787
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: ten sacks, Like i'd coach Clear Mac, He's getting ten sacks.

788
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 1: They just don't have those guys on the team. And

789
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: a lot of it just has to do with their

790
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: own success. And the one guy they did have, Belichick

791
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: traded him way and I get it, and I'll never

792
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: crush them for trading them because I do think it

793
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: was the right move. Do you think a soft cap

794
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: would work in the NFL like it does in the NBA.

795
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: You can pay above the cap for some players that

796
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 1: you drafted that have made Pro Bowls, are all proteins.

797
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: I kind of like that. I do think that everything

798
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: is gonna be on the table in the new c

799
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: b A, which I think is in a couple of

800
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: years away. You know, like the Warriors, for example, that

801
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: they exceed the cap because they can extend Steph to

802
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: a max deal. They can extend Clay to a max deal.

803
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: Andrea Guadala, who was their guy, They can extend same

804
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 1: with Sean Livingston. Uh, that's just an example that I

805
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 1: that I know on the top of my head, so

806
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: I see what you're saying. I do wonder this. The

807
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: NFL owners, I think like a hard cap for a

808
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: couple of reasons. One is there kind of big on

809
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: the equality of money, because if they keep the equality

810
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: of money, they never get to the point where like

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Speaker 1: Jerry might be okay doing that, Aubert Kraft probably wouldn't

812
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: because Bill wouldn't want to do it. I don't think

813
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: many owners would want to do that because it would

814
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,880
Speaker 1: put a lot of pressure on you to resign your

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00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:11,800
Speaker 1: own guys like no one. I'll give you an example,

816
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: the Raiders. It's not an easy sell because I would

817
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: say most people listening to this have common sense and

818
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 1: they know trading Khalil max is one of the dumbest

819
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: things they've ever seen in the NFL. But you can

820
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: sell it be like, you know his cap number and

821
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: Derek's cap number just takes up too much money. Well,

822
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: if it was a soft cap, you'd go, well, you

823
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: can go over the cap because you can resign Khalil Mack.

824
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: They wouldn't be able to say that. And I think

825
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: a lot of NFL owners like that ability to be

826
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: able to say, you know, we didn't want to pay him.

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00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: So I just think while it does make functional sense

828
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: and they probably should do it, I don't think a

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00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: lot of owners would vote to do it because here's

830
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: a thing like the revenue check that they get, Like

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00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: Mark Davis gets two million dollars. Well, Mark Davis's salary

832
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: cap is hundred seventy five million dollars, and even because

833
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,720
Speaker 1: he's overspending for grooding ten million dollars and probably another

834
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: ten million dollars for his entire staff, that's only twenty

835
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: million dollars. So you're not even at two million dollars.

836
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: And then even paying del Rio and some of his

837
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 1: staff going away, that's another six seven million dollars a year.

838
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: So again he's profiting forty million after paying for his

839
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: most expensive expenses that he has on the books. So

840
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: why would he ever want to take that away to like, yeah,

841
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 1: we can go a soft cap. That's that's his free money.

842
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: Mike Brown, Dean Spanos. I can't see them raising their

843
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: hand for that. So I would like to see it

844
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: because it would put more pressure on teams to not

845
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 1: screw up and not take care of your guys. And

846
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: also it would help out the smart teams like you

847
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: draft really well, Like the Chiefs shouldn't have to worry

848
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: about one day keeping Tyree Hill, Travis Kelsey, and Patrick

849
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: Mahomes all on the same team, right, they should be

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Speaker 1: able to keep them all. But they're probably gonna have to,

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Speaker 1: like not gonna be able to extend everyone for like

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Speaker 1: five years, and they're all gonna be on the team

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Speaker 1: and Kareem Hunt, so they're probably gonna have to pick

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Speaker 1: one of those guys to boot. It's just the nature

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Speaker 1: of the sport that is it almost you draft really

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Speaker 1: well and you nail a quarterback, it almost screws you.

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about the Raiders. They got rid of

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Speaker 1: clear MC and they had like three good players. It

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Speaker 1: was just because they signed their quarterback. Again, that's what

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Speaker 1: they claimed they easily could have. I like the question though,

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Speaker 1: middlecoff mail back always here of the Giants, Jags, Miami

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Speaker 1: taking a quarterback in this draft, who do you what

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Speaker 1: do you think of the Chargers sliding up and grabbing

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Speaker 1: a midground quarterback like Will Greer to take Rivers place

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Speaker 1: for a year or two. Here's the problem, and I've

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Speaker 1: watched the Chargers game actually pretty closely the last two

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Speaker 1: weeks because they've played the Nighters and Writers. The Charges

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Speaker 1: are three and two. They play the Browns this week.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll win that game. They'll be four and too.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident the Charge will win in ten plus

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Speaker 1: games this year. Charge is are winning a wild card

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Speaker 1: and I don't think they would. You know, the Patriots,

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Speaker 1: and let's say the Patriots and the Chiefs or the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs Patriots are the one and two seeds, who would

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Speaker 1: be the three and four seed? Well would be the

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Speaker 1: a f C now North and the a f C South,

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Speaker 1: so it would probably be the Bengals. Steelers are Ravens.

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Speaker 1: One of those teams, probably the Jaguars. I think the

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Speaker 1: Chargers could beat either one of those teams. So it's

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Speaker 1: not crazy to think the Chargers are drafting, like I

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Speaker 1: don't know if there's gonna be a quarterback around. I

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Speaker 1: think this is the problem is last year was probably

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Speaker 1: the year to do it, but they did draft during

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Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks were off the board and Derwin James

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Speaker 1: like one of the best players on their team, so

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Speaker 1: it all worked out and Rivers, I mean, I got

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Speaker 1: news for you. Rivers is having like a sneaky MVP season.

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Speaker 1: He looks fantastic, kind of like Drew Brees. Why why

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Speaker 1: can't Rivers play at this level for another five six years? Now?

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Speaker 1: They're gonna need a replacement one day. Maybe take them

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Speaker 1: in the second round. I don't know if they're will

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Speaker 1: career is not gonna be there when they draft, if

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Speaker 1: their season can as long as Rivers stays healthy, because

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Speaker 1: they're gonna win too many games. I actually think they

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Speaker 1: might make some noise in the playoffs. I got a

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Speaker 1: hot take. Is it crazy to think that the Chargers

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Speaker 1: could win the a f C this year? Uh? You know,

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Speaker 1: if they do play the Chiefs, they'd be an underdog,

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Speaker 1: but they have Rivers have seen them a lot. Just

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Speaker 1: in a lie averages, he could beat him. He's played

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Speaker 1: the Patriots a lot over the years, So I don't

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Speaker 1: think it's too crazy if Bosa comes back that they're

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Speaker 1: right now my sleeper to win the a f C.

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Speaker 1: The San Diego I still call him the San Diego Chargers. Okay,

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Speaker 1: one last one, well, one last one here, Hey, John

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Speaker 1: loved the podcast here in Fresno. I know it's not

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Speaker 1: a question, but what was it like working for Pat Hill.

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Speaker 1: He's my favorite Frison State coach of all time. Pat

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Speaker 1: Hill was awesome, just a just a dying breed of

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Speaker 1: football coaches. Uh for Bill Belichick. You know, it's one

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Speaker 1: thing that I still use a lot on Twitter because

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Speaker 1: it's the way that he used to hammer this home

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Speaker 1: and he put it up on the wall and it

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Speaker 1: was Bill Belichick's mantra. And Pat worked for Bill at Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: You know, in the staff that had Nick Saban and

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Speaker 1: all those guys on the staff that you're either coaching

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Speaker 1: it or allowing it to happen. And it's why when

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Speaker 1: I look at football, it's when people go, that's on

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Speaker 1: the players. The way football works, man, you're the coaching

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Speaker 1: that are allowing it to happen. It's that simple. It's

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Speaker 1: why like Martavius Bryant has dropped balls, has uh against

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Speaker 1: the Chargers, had a ball fumbled like hit out of

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Speaker 1: his hands from behind? Like to me, that's the coach.

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Speaker 1: You keep putting him in. You can't be shocked when

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Speaker 1: he continues to do these things. Yank him out of

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Speaker 1: the game. Bell, Bill Belichick, you either coaching allowing it

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Speaker 1: to happen. If you lead the guy in the game.

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Speaker 1: You know, things are never gonna change. I love Pat Hill.

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Speaker 1: He's the reason that I got into football. When I

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Speaker 1: wanted to interview and get it work in the league,

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Speaker 1: I said, Hey, the the Eagles have an ternship opportunity.

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Speaker 1: We make a call. Within ten minutes he at Andy

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Speaker 1: Reid on the phone, like two days later, I was

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Speaker 1: interviewing there and I was hired the day of because

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Speaker 1: Pat Hill called the head coach. You know, I mean

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Speaker 1: I I owe him a ton professionally. And it was

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Speaker 1: one of the cooler I mean, I made nothing. I was.

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Speaker 1: I was a g a on the staff. I was

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Speaker 1: paid a scholarship check. The coolest two years of my

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Speaker 1: life back when you know, you had no responsibility in

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Speaker 1: terms of like mortgages or bills in my early twenties,

942
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Speaker 1: just aspirations working in the NFL and learning from Coach

943
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Speaker 1: Hill and playing in big games, you know, playing big

944
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Speaker 1: five Power five opponents, and just working for a coach

945
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Speaker 1: that was as respected is you know any in football.

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Speaker 1: Like everyone loved him, NFL people loved him. It was.

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Speaker 1: It was an incredible experience and something that I I

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Speaker 1: value a lot personally. For sure. I'm a huge Pat

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Speaker 1: Hill guy too, Thanks again for listening. Keep going in

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Speaker 1: my d M S. I gotta ton more questions. I'll

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Speaker 1: keep answering them Friday, We're Going Now, Tuesday and Friday.

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Speaker 1: Tuesday and Friday, UH three and out podcast John Middlecop

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Speaker 1: See you guys a little later this week