1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Last way to spread Christmas cheers singing loud for all 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: the year, ron Ananian, But do you ever look at 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: the tech working on the car. Does he have a 4 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: tune in his head? Does he hear the music of 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: the day. Is he looking at that job in front 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 1: of him thinking yeah, I can do this, and he 7 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: becomes one with that project? The Car Doctor. The reason 8 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: why manufacturers don't like oil editors is for fear of 9 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: what sort of contamination it's going to impose on the 10 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:46,480 Speaker 1: catalytic converse Jeal Welcome to the radio home of ron Andanian, 11 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the 12 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 13 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: the phone and call in the garage to orders are open. 15 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: But I am here to take your calls at eight 16 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: five five five six, And now I walked through the 17 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: Lincoln copy running. Chances are your mechanics doing something wrong? 18 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: And I've got a base that on analytical information. We 19 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: probably did close to eighteen or nineteen oil changes this week. 20 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 1: Um eighteen I think was the number nine. The nineteenth 21 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: WOL didn't really count an oil change for some other reasons. 22 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: But out of eighteen oil changes, we found fifteen cars 23 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: that didn't have simple things done correctly. The oil change 24 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,040 Speaker 1: sticker wasn't on right, the oil level was low. Prior 25 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: to Tom, Tom, is that you? Yes, it's me. Listen, 26 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: I'm trying to do the open. Now. What's now? What's 27 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: We have a very very very important call for you, Tom. 28 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: What is more important? You know? This is a national show, Tom, 29 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: It's more important than the opening. Come on, who is this? 30 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: It's the North Paul, Oh this I better take this. Okay, 31 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: put them through. Hello? Is this the party to whom 32 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: I am speaking? It's Roninien for the bank guy, Hotshot, 33 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: the Jolly One of Christmas. Santa? Oh, how you doing? Hi, Santa? 34 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 1: How are you? I'm doing fun in yourself? How're you doing? 35 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: My friend? You've been a good boy. I've been a 36 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: good boy. Tom. Not so good me. I've been great. Yeah. 37 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: I don't want to throw Tom under the bus, Santa, 38 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 1: but Tom has been a little naughty. I've been good, though, Santa. 39 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: I want that train set under the tree this year. 40 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: Oh right, well, we'll see what happens come next Friday. Okay, Yeah, Oh, 41 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: I appreciated, Santa. Has everything been good at the North Paul? 42 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: Everybody you all set? You already for your trip around 43 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:01,799 Speaker 1: the world? Oh no, not really. Also giving me problems. Um, 44 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: we're running out of face masks and has on hand sanitizers. 45 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: Can you help us, Santa? I have inventory of face 46 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 1: masks and hand sanitizer if you want, I could send 47 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:15,679 Speaker 1: it to you. That will definitely help me and Mrs 48 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: Clause absolutely Now listen, um, you know, are you already 49 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: for the right around the world. You know everybody's kind 50 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: of anticipating you now more than ever. We need a 51 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: little Santa Clause right, and we were when we need 52 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: our Christmas and we need our holidays whatever we're gonna celebrate, 53 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,920 Speaker 1: and we need to know that you're you're ready to go. 54 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: And that's just it's so important this year, Santa. We've 55 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: got to make sure you get around the world like 56 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: you're supposed to. A lot of kids of all ages 57 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: and sizes are depending on you. You know that. Oh yes, 58 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: without a question, We'll we'll be fine. But like I said, 59 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:49,839 Speaker 1: I just need you to come up to the North 60 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: Pole thore okay and my slitters all right, so I 61 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: could go around and bring choice to everybody. You know, 62 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: I've got to tell you, Santa, this year, I'm working 63 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: on recle take off. We're gonna we're gonna lift straight 64 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: up because we can't. I don't think we're gonna have 65 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: the runways. You know, we have to stay six ft apart, 66 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: and everything is getting more crowded now. So I've worked 67 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: out a vertical takeoff procedure for the reindeer that I'm 68 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: teaching them which way to pull, and we're just gonna 69 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 1: go straight up. So I'm gonna come with you this year, 70 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: if that's okay. I've already got a little caboose attached 71 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: to the back of the sleigh so I can be 72 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: six feet back and I'll just I'll just be like 73 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: the flight engineer and and and and trapes along and 74 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: you know, now I've got to get back by, you know, 75 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: next week, because I've got to do the show. Obviously, 76 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: it's I've got to be here. So we're gonna have 77 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: the time this just right? Can you drop me off 78 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,239 Speaker 1: in New Jersey when you get back over the United States? 79 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: Sounds and also we have to bring Tom, Okay, We're 80 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: gonna bring Tom to the North Pole this year. Well, yeah, 81 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: he has been. He has been a naughty boy. You 82 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: ought to hear some of the things Tom has done 83 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: this year, Santa. Um, it's it's really just it's absolutely crazy. 84 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: It's it's been a crazy year. But we're really thrilled 85 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:06,239 Speaker 1: to hear from you and all that you do. And uh, 86 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a good sign. You know what. 87 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: Back in back in March April, you wondered if there 88 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: was gonna be a Christmas and here we are. It's 89 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: Christmas and we're a year. We're two weeks away from 90 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 1: New Year's and uh, you know, we're just looking forward 91 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: to the new year and all that all that comes 92 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: with it. So uh um, I know you have a 93 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: busy schedule and I really appreciate you taking the time 94 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: to be with us today. Um, you know, problems, you know, 95 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: I have one question though, Santa, on a serious note, 96 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:34,359 Speaker 1: were there any issues getting the Elves to work together 97 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: this year? Um? You know you have to practice social distancing, right, Yeah, 98 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: well we took we took care of that. That's why 99 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: I need to bring Tom up to the North Pole. 100 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: You'll get everyone straight. Tom. Oh, Well, you know, if 101 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: you if you show the elves, Tom, they'll realize what 102 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: naughty looks like and then all of a sudden they'll 103 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: straighten out and fly right. Yeah, well Tom is the 104 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: original bad boy. Santa. I know you gotta go. I'm 105 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: not to hold you. It's uh, it's it's just too 106 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: much to do. But um, you go about your business 107 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: and I'll be up there. Um. I'll be up there 108 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: no later than Wednesday this week coming because I've got 109 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: to prep the sligh, make sure the raindeer get plenty 110 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:15,720 Speaker 1: of sleep, and you too, and I'll be there. I've 111 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 1: got your back, Okay, I'll be You're a flight engineer 112 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: this year, no problem. Always good to hear from Santa. Hey, Tom, 113 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: that was great. I don't know how you manage the 114 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: time these things just right. Let me just real quick 115 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: finish what I was talking about before Santa interrupted me. 116 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: But I let Santa interrupt me, So let me just 117 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: finish my initial opening thought before Santa called. You know, 118 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: is your mechanic doing the right thing? And this week, 119 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: out of all those oil changes that we did, there 120 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: was just you know, little things. Drain plug gaskets weren't changed. 121 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: You know, oil filters were on, but they were on 122 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: so tight more than a few required superhuman strength to 123 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 1: get them off. And it makes me wonder, Okay, how 124 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: good of a job are they doing. If they can't 125 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: do an oil change correctly, you know how good are 126 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: they taking care of the rest of the car? I shocked. 127 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: One customer came in. Dan new customer came in with 128 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: a Subaru and the drain plug gaest and on a 129 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: subbru is it's a crushed style gasket. It's designed it's 130 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: a one time used, throw it away and put another 131 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: one on every time you change the oil. And I 132 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: showed him the gasket as it came off. It was crushed, 133 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 1: completely flat and distorted to the point that it had 134 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: been used more than a few times. And I pointed 135 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: out to him the rationale here is at some stage 136 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: that vehicle is going to have issues if they continue 137 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: to do that with the drain plug, stripping the threads 138 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: or breaking the oil pan itself, because then a lot 139 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: of the oil pants today are either spot well did 140 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: nuts on the inside of the steel pan, or they're 141 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: aluminum threads into an oil pan that will eventually wear 142 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: out and and strip out. It's so important you know 143 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: what the next time you get an oil change. And 144 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: the next time you think you're trying to save money 145 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 1: and you're asking yourself, Hey, how expensive could an oil 146 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,559 Speaker 1: change be? Take a look at your invoice. They should 147 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: be charging you on most cars for oil, a filter, 148 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: maybe some additional chemicals, washer fluid, things like that, and 149 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: he freeze. But there's on the majority of cars they 150 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: should be charging you for a drain plug gasket. All right, 151 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: they're replaceable on Forge, they're replaceable on Toyota's, they're replaceable 152 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: on Subaru, GM products, Chrysler products. There aren't many cars 153 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: out there that don't have replaceable drain plug gaskets. And 154 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: the fact is, if they're changing the drain plug gasket, now, 155 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: chances are you won't have to replace the oil pan 156 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: later on somewhere down the road, as as this car 157 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 1: ages with you. So just keep it in mind. Listen, 158 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: small point, small points become big points, and that's how 159 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: we build better cars and make or make cars better 160 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: and build better mechanics. So just a tip of advice 161 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: from the car doctor. Hey, we've got a lot going 162 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: on this hour, there's a lot of calls. We're gonna 163 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: pull over and take a pause, but we are here 164 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: at zero zero, I am on an any in the 165 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: car Doctor. We alsoid giving way in O'Reilly o to 166 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: parts gift card. UH this week, I don't know if 167 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: it's this hour next hour decision of the judgle's namely 168 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: Tom Ray original bad Boy himself. As final We've also 169 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: got a couple of books to give away for you, 170 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: the Corvette Book. Um, I believe we've got some others 171 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: that we're giving away this week in our final holiday giveaway. 172 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: Trying to get things out to you, So stick around 173 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: eight five zero zero zero. I'm rona eating the card doctor. 174 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: We'll be back right after this. Need advice on how 175 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: to maintain that classic g t O. Ron is the 176 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 1: guy eight five five five zero nine nine zero zero. 177 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: Here's Ron, welcome back. You know that was just wasn't 178 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: it great to hear from Santa this Stuh just just 179 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: good stuff, always good to go, always good this time 180 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: of year to kind of get in the Christmas spirit. 181 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: And uh, in keeping with that Christmas spirit, this hour 182 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: give me away a couple of things we're gonnapery. The 183 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: gift clause it Classic Car Adventures Dr Richard McCann. We've 184 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: got one copy left and it's going to a caller 185 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: this hour, I promise, So I'll line up on the phone. 186 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 1: ZO zero. Let's get over to John Bronxville, New York. John, 187 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir. How can I help 188 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: him our car? The car stools, you know, it's stole 189 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: over the years, but now it's become you know, it's 190 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,839 Speaker 1: more frequent. And I put my foot on the gas 191 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: and I'm driving along and put my foot in against 192 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: nothing and stops um And after about three or four, 193 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: maybe ten minutes, it starts up again. It's never not started, 194 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 1: but it just goes out. Okay, So has anybody tried 195 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: to diagnose repair this? I mean, this is thirty years old, 196 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: so there's a lot. There's a lot this could be. 197 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: Has anybody taken any And he shots, yeah, yeah, I've 198 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 1: had the same mechanic for a while, and they you know, 199 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: he really doesn't have an idea because you know, it 200 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: does and happened when he's around. And even if I 201 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: stole it and he comes, the damn thing is how 202 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: it's ready to start up again. So he said it 203 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: could be a fuel pump relay or something like that. 204 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: By the way, I know nothing about cards you know, okay, 205 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: so let me let me let me it out for 206 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: you like this, Um, you ever have a bad light? 207 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: Do you ever have a light not work in the 208 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: house like a light bulb? Right? And what do you want? 209 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 1: What do you usually do? Usually you put a light 210 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 1: bulb in it and that fixes it. Right, But if 211 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't a light bulb and it was intermittent, that 212 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: it didn't happen all the time, how would you diagnose it? 213 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: A simple electrical circuit like that? Beat the heck out 214 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: of me. So let me let me walk you through it, 215 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: all right. What if we took an auxiliary light bulb 216 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: and put it at the switch on the wall, all right, 217 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: and every time you turned on the light, whether the 218 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 1: lightbulblit or not, that bulb blit, and that by that 219 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 1: bulb lighting, we know what we know there's power going 220 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: to the component. Makes sense? Right? What if we did that? 221 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: What if we did that with the car now volkswagons 222 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: of this generation. I could talk about fuel system issues 223 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 1: that this has from now until the end of the show, Um, 224 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: and rather than go through that, and we can talk 225 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: about cleanliness of gas and yes they have fuel pump issues. 226 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: They also had a lot of ignition switch issues in 227 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 1: the late eighties. All right, so you know, talk to 228 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: your mechanic. Could he wire in a side market ball. 229 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: We call it a side market ball, but it's a 230 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: little tiny marker is the part number side bulb? I 231 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: would and I've done it two cars like yours. I've 232 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 1: done it to other makes and models too, where I 233 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: would just wire in a bull feeding power too, and 234 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: from the ignition switch. Now, when the car stalls, now, now, now, 235 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: when the car stalls, John, if there's power coming into 236 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: the ignition switch, the white bulb is lit. If there's 237 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: power coming out of the ignition switch all the time, 238 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: and you put a different color bulban and amber color, 239 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: you know, what if it was what if it was 240 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: as simple as an ignition switch, Because the truth is 241 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: does it cut does it cut out like somebody turned 242 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: the key off? Or is it a does it stutter? 243 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: Is it just it's kind of like guys playing like right, right, Well, 244 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: so I must say that sometimes it shakes a little 245 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: bit before but very you know, well, let's and let's 246 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: and let's not rule out we've got two problems. It is. 247 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: It is thirty two years old, right, so you know, 248 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: let's let's let's let's put do this. It's it's cheap 249 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: and simple to do. He can probably do it in 250 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: under an hour. All right, wire in so you know, 251 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 1: he would go to his auto parts. Story's probably got 252 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: the bulbs and sockets and stock. And the idea is 253 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: that you're going to tap into the wiring harness, tap 254 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: in a ball for power into the switch, tap in 255 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: a bulb for power out of the switch, or you 256 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: could just do one, do one for power out of 257 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: the switch. If if if it's really tight and it 258 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: doesn't work, the idea being that if you have if 259 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: that bulb goes out and that's when the car stalls, 260 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: you just eliminated the car because you know the problem 261 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 1: is from the ignition switch up to its power supply. Right, 262 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: makes sense? Let me it does make it. Let me 263 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: ask you, so where would the bulbs be? What do 264 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 1: you mean we were the bulbs? But another word, I'm 265 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: driving along right and it goes out, and what would 266 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 1: happen to the bulls? Then? Well, here's here's the that 267 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: what you say, no, no, no, no, no no no, 268 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: this would be. This would be so you can position 269 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: these balls with the wiring harness so that they're shining 270 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: down at your feet. That they're you know, you could 271 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: extend the wires so that it's laying on the dashboard 272 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: by the speedo so when the car cuts out, you 273 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: don't take your eyes off the road. You're looking at 274 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: those bulbs. Those bulbs are going to be lit now, 275 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: you know. Sometimes, depending upon where you position them, will 276 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: use a dull bulb. I'll actually paint the ball of 277 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: color so that it's not this glaring white light staring 278 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 1: me in the face at night that I'm going blind, 279 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: that I can't see the road. Uh. You know. Sometimes 280 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: I'll get little Christmas light bulbs and I'll use those 281 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: how to get a holiday dig in there? Um, you know. 282 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 1: The idea is though, that that bulb is your monitor. Listen, 283 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: I could accomplish the same thing if I drove around 284 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: in your car with a voltmeter. I can't do that, 285 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: and you can't do that, and he can't do that. 286 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: So that bulb then becomes the test device and it's 287 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: just that simple. So he so he sticks so he 288 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: does that, and I still now the bulb then would 289 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: be right, if that if that bulb, if that, if 290 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: if the whatever that bulb is wired too. In this 291 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: case the ignition switch. Here, let's go back to the 292 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: light bulb in your house. Right, You've got power to 293 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: the wall switch on one side and then the other 294 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: side of the switch gets completed when you turn the 295 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: switch and it lights the bulb right in the ceiling. Right, 296 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: So your wall switches, your ignition and switch. You've got 297 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: a power feed coming in and a power feed out 298 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: to the car coming out. You wire that bulb into 299 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: the power feed coming out so that when you when 300 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: you start the car, it's got to turn everything on, 301 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: just like that wolf switch for the light bulb. Right now, 302 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: when it happens, that bulb will be lit all the time. 303 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 1: If that bulb is not lit and it's wired correctly, 304 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: the car is not running. Got you, So that's the deal. 305 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:29,880 Speaker 1: You do that, and you call me back if he's 306 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: got any questions, if he wants to hear this, if 307 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: he wants to hear this description. You're in the first 308 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: hour of today's show, So in about thirty six hours 309 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 1: the podcast will be up. You can tell him to 310 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: go grab the podcast. Just google my name, Rod and 311 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: any in the car doctor. It comes up as a 312 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: podcast and you can do it again. What station are 313 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: you on that I can get you on the radio 314 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: from two to four depends where you are hun tree 315 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: markets around the country. I don't know off the I 316 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: don't know at the top of my head in relation 317 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: to Bronxville John. But if you send me or if 318 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: you send your info to his Ron at Car Doctor 319 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: show dot com, we'll look and see. All right, sir, 320 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: you're very welcome. You're very welcome. Orry Christmas, take good care. 321 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, you know Diagonolson Cars is take it out 322 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: of the car, put it on the bench. How would 323 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: you tell if it's good or bad? And and and 324 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: that's the biggest thing. And if you can't be there, 325 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: what would you do for it? And just break it 326 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: down into simple English And sometimes that's all it takes. Listen. 327 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: I had a customer, Gordon good customer. He was he's 328 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: a little adventurous. He was working on his daughter's Nissan 329 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: and he took it to the cars up in Vermont, 330 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: I should point that out. And he took it to 331 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: a couple of mechanics up there, and nobody could figure 332 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 1: it out. The problem was that, uh, he had a 333 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: problem with the power windows. And then he realized the 334 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 1: power window switches were interchangeable. He took the right switch, 335 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: made it the left, and made the left switch, put 336 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: ticket to the right. The problem followed the switch. He 337 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: knew what to do. And sometimes you just got to 338 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: think outside the box. Make it simple, break it down 339 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: at the I'm an easy to understand every day thought process. 340 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be complicated, not all the time. Sometimes. Yes, hey, 341 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: I'm running any of the Card Doctor eight zero zero 342 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: stick around. We're coming back right after this. And perhaps 343 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: there's a book in your future. Should you pick up 344 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: the phone and give us a call. Don't go away, 345 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: look at Frosty, go look at the Car Doctor. Go hey, Ron, 346 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:52,479 Speaker 1: any of the Car Doctor. We're back. Let's get over 347 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: and talk to John L. Tune in Pennsylvania. John, Welcome 348 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: to the Car Doctor, sir. All right, Ron, nice listen 349 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: to your show last week. It was really good. I 350 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: really liked your story about talking about the waiting room 351 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: and you fixing the customer's car and um. Last week, 352 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: I took my ss Camaro away for the winner, and 353 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: I had mice problems last year, and I said, all 354 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 1: these traps I caught at least ten of them before 355 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: I put it away, and I wanted to get your 356 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,719 Speaker 1: opinion on these sonar mice go away things. I haven't. 357 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: I haven't used one yet, John, but I like it. 358 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: I keep reading about them. I haven't had a big 359 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: enough problem to go further. I actually have traps set 360 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 1: up at the house, you know where I have a 361 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: professional exterminator coming in for a couple hundred bucks a year. 362 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: He does the whole house, and you know, he puts 363 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: the traps up against the wall, the little sticky boxes 364 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: that they walk through. What I've learned is you're supposed 365 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: to put the traps up against the perimeter of whatever 366 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: it is you're trying to protect, because mice, like a 367 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: lot of animals, as they go through their perimeter, they 368 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: kind of walk, you know, they won't walk in the 369 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: middle of the floor. They walk against the wall where 370 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: it's a safer sin two of them, I guess, And 371 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: you know that's where John always puts the traps. The 372 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: other thing I've used with some degrees of success is 373 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,120 Speaker 1: mothballs and plastic bags lined in the corners. And then 374 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: you know, you could get a cap, but then that's 375 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: something else to take care of, uh, you know, and 376 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: that that that's good advice there. I'll have to, Oh, 377 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: it's a big problem because you know how much damage 378 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,360 Speaker 1: they can do. And yeah, yeah, maybe you could tell 379 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: the people a story about a mice problem you had 380 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,880 Speaker 1: it years ago. The damage they do is unbelievable. Well, 381 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,359 Speaker 1: you know, John, the issue is that it's it's just 382 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: never one wire. They'll they'll I've had mice take out 383 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: the car where they'll they'll chew their way through the 384 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,959 Speaker 1: wiring harness where you've got to actually, you know, you're 385 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,439 Speaker 1: putting an engine compartment harness in or you're putting an 386 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: interior harness in, and it's it's really you've got to 387 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: really be mindful, you know of the fact that mice 388 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: can get into everywhere and everything, and you know that's 389 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: an issue. It's really a big problem. You're out now, Tuna. John. 390 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: You must be listening to us on w r T 391 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: A yes, A M twelve forty. It's really a good show. 392 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: You're like I said, your stories you tell it was 393 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 1: all just about nuts, sports and tools, but you know 394 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: sometimes your storytelling of the customer in the whiting room, 395 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: I just thought that was pretty good story. Um My 396 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: next question is this I got two little dogs, b 397 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: sean Shitzus, and they go in this Camaro with me 398 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: and they keep jumping on this toggle switch in the middle, 399 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: and uh, I don't know if that's gonna cause any damage. Um, 400 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: you have an opinion on this toggle switch? The dogs 401 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: jump on? What's the toggle switch for John? Because um, 402 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: you know track mode? Uh? Race mode? Um, well, what 403 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: you could do. What you could do is you could 404 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: cover it all right, because you don't you don't want 405 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,880 Speaker 1: to let it. That's good. Yeah, you don't want to listen. 406 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I'm gonna make it easy for you. 407 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: You need something to cover that switch right now, that's 408 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 1: easy and I didn't even think of it, but you 409 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: know it's a dog thing. And and also my last question, yeah, 410 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: my last question I'm gonna hang up and listen to you. 411 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: Is the the new Corvette going from a front engine 412 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: to a rear engine. They're wanted to get your take on. 413 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: Now we'll tell you what. John. Don't don't hang up 414 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 1: too soon, because I'll tell you what. I'm gonna answer 415 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: your question. I'm also gonna solve your Camaro problem because 416 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: they're gonna be sending you with a complete book of Corvette. 417 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna get. You're gonna you're gonna get our latest copy. Brother, 418 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. Um. You know it's as you know, we've 419 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 1: we've had Michael Muller on the show talking about it. 420 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's it's hardcover bound. It covers all current 421 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: model your Corvettes. It's got detailed color pictures. For a 422 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: car guy like you. You're gonna have a Merry Christmas 423 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:46,479 Speaker 1: sitting down looking at this, and it'll make a perfect 424 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: spot you can keep the dogs from jumping on the 425 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 1: traction switch. As for the mid engine Corvette, we were 426 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: just we were just we were just informed that the 427 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: same publishing house that puts out the Complete Book of 428 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: Corvette is going to be releasing to us in mid 429 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,719 Speaker 1: February or March. They've done a complete workup story about 430 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: the mid engine Corvette, and we're gonna be one of 431 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: the first ones to get a copy of that book 432 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: and review it up here on air. So you guys 433 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: have that to look forward to in the new year. 434 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 1: You know, we'll be talking about that as well. Stay 435 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: on the phone, John, don't run away. Let Tom get 436 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,159 Speaker 1: your information, and I'll be sending out this copy of 437 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: the Complete Book of Corvette by Michael Muller, A car 438 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,640 Speaker 1: guys dream. Just everything you've always wanted to know about 439 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: Corvette production. Numbers, are po codes, everything under the sun. 440 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 1: It's all there. So enjoy Merry Christmas from us at 441 00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, and thanks for being part of the 442 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: family and listening to us on w r T A. 443 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: So we really very much appreciate it. Let's get on 444 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: over and talk to uh. Can we go over and 445 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: talk to Larry in Orlando, Florida. Larry, Welcome to the 446 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: Car Doctor, sir, how can I help? Greetings Ron, what 447 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: a tremendous program. Thank your observations on the mice were 448 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: extremely helpful. I just wanted to follow up on a 449 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: call you had several weeks ago that was very helpful. 450 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: It was describing a matter you'd run into the shop 451 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: with the movie exhaust manifolds from a camera using a 452 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: heat and water treatment, and this is what we've got wrong. 453 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: It's a little bit of an oddball matter. We're working 454 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: to restore a nineteen sixty two Volkswagen Transporter pickup and 455 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: as you might recall that they like the Beatles and 456 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: the other busses in the air cooled series have an 457 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: experior hinge and there's yeah yeah, and there's a pin 458 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 1: in it. And originally I think there was supposed to 459 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: be rubber caps on top, but in this instance the 460 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: pin is rested solid into each of the hinges such 461 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: that we can't open either door. The doors are very thin. Anyway, 462 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: We've tried treating it with PB blaster without any luck 463 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: so far for about six months. And also Croil, a 464 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: wonderful man that has a used Volkswagen salvage yard out 465 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: in Nevada and California, suggested heating them, but he said 466 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: that a torch wouldn't be sufficient, like a propane to 467 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: which we'd need like a welder type guy that knew 468 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: how to heat them. But I just was wondering, if 469 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: the car was in your shop, which is where it 470 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: would be if we weren't in Florida, run, how would 471 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: you think about tackling it. I would do it. I 472 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: would either use and I would I would. I always 473 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 1: start mild, Larry, you know, I always try to go slow, 474 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: mild goes wild, as my motto has been forever in 475 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: that I would Yeah, I've got the torches handy, but 476 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: I also have something it's an electric heater. It's some 477 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: made by Innovation Solutions. I think it is UH an 478 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: inductive heater that actually has a heating coil on the 479 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: end of a wand that gets plugged in, and it 480 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: would give me the ability to apply direct heat, so 481 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: I can actually, with a tightly wound coil of wire, 482 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: go right around the area of the hinge I wanted 483 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: to concentrate on. It won't apply so much heat that 484 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to deform something, but it's heat in a 485 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: way that it wakes things up, alright, if I can, 486 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: If I can say it like that, and then I 487 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,120 Speaker 1: would probably go through, Um, listen, I'm something you're gonna 488 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,120 Speaker 1: have to buy yourself for the holidays, right. Everybody needs 489 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 1: one and and and the inductive heaters and a lot 490 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,719 Speaker 1: of the tool manufacturers have them now. I believe Innovation 491 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: was the first ones to mark it there out on 492 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 1: the web somewhere. I believe Innovation is the name of 493 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: the company. You know, snap On sells the Mac tool 494 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: sells them. They're up there. But you know, using heat, 495 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: sometimes it's not just heat. Sometimes it's heat and then 496 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: freeze it, heat and then cool it. You know, it's 497 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: that sudden shock. It's that thermal you know that that 498 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: that reaction to the temperature change that causes the rust 499 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: or the bound the barrier to break free from the 500 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: component it's adhered itself too. And then after that, I'm 501 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: gonna start thinking about the torch or at the very least, 502 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: can I can I warm it up and get it 503 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 1: to move that I can open the door, not necessarily 504 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: remove the pin. And then once I get it off, 505 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: can I opened the door once I get it to open, 506 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 1: can I open the door remove the hinge? I'm trying 507 00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: to remember. I know what it's like on the body side, 508 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember what it's like on the doorside. 509 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 1: If I got the hinge off, could I throw it 510 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 1: in a tank of something, you know, a mixture of 511 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: PB and maybe automatic transmission fluid. Let it circulate and 512 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 1: soak through and you know, work it's restoration magic on 513 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: it while you're doing the rest of the car. And 514 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,360 Speaker 1: what's really weird with the hinges having looked at one 515 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: in a junk in the junkyard in California, was that 516 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: the inner the hinge that at taxes to the door 517 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: is actually welded into the door. Yeah, that's yes, that's 518 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: that's the way. Yeah, that's the way they did it. Yep, 519 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: it's weird, but your thoughts are tremendously helpful. On could 520 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,440 Speaker 1: I just ask you specifically the name of the tool, 521 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: It would be an inductive if you're you're looking for 522 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: and you know, I would Google search automotive inductive electric heater. 523 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: And I believe the name of the company that manufactures 524 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 1: it goes by the name of Innovation Technologies. I'm not 525 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: a d percent certain. When I pull over and take 526 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: the plause, I'll jump on a computer and I'll look 527 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: and I'll mention it on air when I come back, 528 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: and or we'll get it, or we'll get it up 529 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 1: on our Facebook page, okay, or we'll get up on 530 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: our faceage. So what best for wonderful holiday? The show 531 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: is phenomenal, particularly the stories from the shop. Thank you 532 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 1: very very much. You're very welcome, Larry. Guys like you 533 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,640 Speaker 1: and everybody else you guys will make it worthwhile. That's 534 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: why we're here. We're here for you. We appreciate it. 535 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to all. I'm runing any in the car. Doctor, 536 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this blocome back on any 537 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: of the card ocurate by five zero. Brian in Massachusetts 538 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 1: nine Suburban. What's going on here? Brian? Welcome aboard. Well, 539 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: thank you for taking the call. So I've had this 540 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 1: car since new and it's got a lot of miles 541 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: on it, a little over three hundred thousand and just 542 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: broken in. Yeah, and UH, I try to do most 543 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: the maintenance myself. There's uh a fellow with an independent 544 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: shop that I bring it to when I think it's 545 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: outside of my range. Um, and what's going on with 546 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: the car is, for a number of years I've been 547 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: putting up with an issue where UM, I can't rely 548 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: on the car to go between say, uh floor and 549 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: by level on the bent and defrost. Um. And it 550 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 1: has electric motors controlling the different doors. There are three 551 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: different motors controlling it and the one that is supposed 552 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: to switch to defrost. I replaced myself a few years ago, 553 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: and then when that didn't fix it, UM, I kind 554 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: of ran it by my local shop and it seemed 555 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: to me that he didn't really want to deal with it. 556 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: So I brought it to a dealership and they called 557 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: back and said they wanted to replace the motor, and 558 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: so I let him do it. They're the pros and um, 559 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: and that didn't work. Um, and then I've just kind 560 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,479 Speaker 1: of do with it. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait, wait, 561 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: went back up. You've got a ninety nine suburban and 562 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: it's it's not putting heat where to defrost. I can't 563 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: rely on it. So in what I do is in 564 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: the summer, I set the car to come out the 565 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: vent doors. That is where the air is directed at 566 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 1: the passengers the winter. When you do when you do that, Brian, 567 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: does the door move freely? No? So well it will 568 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: eventually maybe in a week. When you because I know 569 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 1: what you're doing. You're opening the glove box, You're you're 570 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: pulling the actuator off the side of the case and 571 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 1: you're flipping the door by hand. Right. Oh no, no, 572 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm using the actual Um, there's an h 573 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: v A C head. Okay, you're using the control head 574 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: to move it. Okay, all right. And and when I 575 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 1: change it to defrost, say it's spent. It's summertime and 576 00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 1: winter is coming, and I know I have to have 577 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: de frost because you can't drive the car without frost. 578 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 1: I then set it to defrost and maybe it will 579 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: go straight to defrost, but more likely I may have 580 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: to wait a couple of days of driving around before 581 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 1: it moves to defrost. Um and uh, it's but sometimes 582 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: it just changes right away. UM. So what I do 583 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: is in the summer, I keep it set to a 584 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: C and in the winter I keep it set to defrost. 585 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: Because you know, I've done some things, but I'm pretty 586 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: sure from having read um different things that what has 587 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 1: to happen is I think the dash has to get 588 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: pulled and the uh, the h B A C unit 589 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: back there needs to be rebuilt. And my question is UM, 590 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:47,640 Speaker 1: the the independent shop that I use, I hate to 591 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: UM to saddle him with a job that he may 592 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: not want to do. Maybe it's not profitable book time 593 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: or something. And so then I bring it to the dealership. 594 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: But it was apparent to me when I doubt with 595 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: the dealership that they didn't want to pull the dash either. 596 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,640 Speaker 1: And I think it's kind of outside of my range. 597 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: So who do I bring it to. It's I'm happy, 598 00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 1: I'm not quibbling over price. I just want to fix it's. 599 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: It's you know, listen, it's sometimes when it comes to 600 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: book time on certain jobs, my answer is if the 601 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: book thinks it can do it in that time period, 602 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: let the book do it. But it takes a human 603 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,440 Speaker 1: being to actually repair the vehicle. And I would go 604 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,959 Speaker 1: talk to your guy. Listen. You know what order repairs 605 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: about the relationship. In my opinion, successful order repairs about 606 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: the relationship. And there's a lot of things we do 607 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: at the shop that other people will look at and go, wow, 608 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: that was expensive, and I'll go, yeah, but it's fixed, 609 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: and you're not coming back twice, and you know it's 610 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: it's just as simple as go talk to your guy 611 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 1: and say John or Fred or whatever his name is. 612 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: You know, listen, I think we got to pull the dash. 613 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: I want you to change all the actuators and you 614 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: know I want to I want you to make sure 615 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: the blend doors are working. And you know what, if 616 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 1: we have to, we will put a control head in it. 617 00:32:58,120 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 1: Because I'm not getting rid of this truck because it's 618 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: six D grant and you know it's I'm not buying 619 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: another one, right and that I'm not buying another one. 620 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: And you know, if the books, the book says five hours, 621 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: do you think you could do it? Inten, do you 622 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: think you could do it in fifteen. If I leave 623 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: you the truck for two weeks in the middle of 624 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 1: January when business is traditionally slow in order repair, could 625 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: you make it the you know, the shop job and 626 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: kind of pick at it. Have that conversation with him. 627 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: Go and talk to him about that, because the relationship 628 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: with this guy is so much better than trying to 629 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: do it the other way taking it to the dealer that, 630 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: like you said, they don't know you. They're looking at 631 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: flat rate. How fast can they bang it out? And 632 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be much better for you in 633 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: the long run. Good luck to you, Brian. I appreciate 634 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: the call. I'm running any of the car doctor I'm 635 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: back right after this. I won't be because I'll be 636 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: right here and I'll have all of you guys with 637 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: me in my thoughts as we go through the Christmas holidays. 638 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: I really appreciate everybody being with us. You know, this 639 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: year and what a tough year to get through, right, 640 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: But here we are um for Larry in Florida. If 641 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: everybody else I know Larry, I wasn't supposed to do this, 642 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: but Tom did it. It's not me, It's his fault. 643 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,560 Speaker 1: The name of the tool. Tom looked up and he's right, 644 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: is the Inductor. So you go to the Inductor dot com. 645 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: They're the ones. They've got all the mobile They've got 646 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 1: a mobile version now of an electronic heater and it 647 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: gives you the ability to apply heat outside the shop 648 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: as well as they make a big version for inside 649 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: the shop. You're trying to get rusty nuts and bolts loose. Uh, 650 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 1: the Inductor dot com has got only the information you're 651 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 1: looking for. Looking at the Car Doctor Facebook page, and 652 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: I love looking at the Facebook page while we're doing 653 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 1: the show, you guys come up with some interesting questions 654 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: and comments. Doug rights in, Hey, ron, I I'm driving 655 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: both cars twenty minutes per week, Uh, including on I 656 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: seventy five to keep them both in decent shape at 657 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: two thousand ninon Toyota vents and at your r d X. 658 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: Any further thoughts. You know what, Doug, it's something at 659 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: least you're trying. You know. Probably the most repairs I 660 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: was just saying, this is someone this week. The most 661 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: repairs we did in the shop this year. Looking back, 662 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 1: it was break jobs for rusty rotors, batteries that just 663 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: couldn't be revived. And had sulfated themselves to death and 664 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 1: way overdue state inspections. The problem is the vehicle fleet 665 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: kept sitting this year, and it's going to be a 666 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: problem even next year until we come out of this 667 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 1: thing and we can all start driving again and we 668 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: look forward to that. We're teaching every one of you, 669 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: but you keep doing that. You're on the right track. 670 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 1: I'm on an any in the car doctors, thank you 671 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 1: for being here reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. 672 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: See you