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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller and I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is

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Speaker 1: hot pursuit.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 3: We have a lot of stuff to talk about plus today, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we're going to talk about the Queen's vehicles. And you've

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Speaker 3: seen these already.

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Speaker 1: I saw them. It's a set of land Rovers personally

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Speaker 1: owned and operated by Queen Elizabeth of England, the late

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Speaker 1: Great Monarch. And we've got Mike Bishop here, the land

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Speaker 1: Rover Products specialists, who basically manages this fleet and is

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Speaker 1: bringing them to New York for anybody to go look

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Speaker 1: at at Rockefeller Center this weekend, which is so cool.

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Speaker 3: By the way, don't you think it's fair to say

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Speaker 3: that she's the most beloved model?

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Speaker 1: Definitely? Yes? Yeah, I mean wow, what a I mean

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Speaker 1: you can disagree with some of her specific policies, of course,

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Speaker 1: but just in terms of a sense of duty and

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Speaker 3: Wow, you've got kind of a royal look going on

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Speaker 3: yourself today. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well you know, thanks, Yeah, I'm transitioning into monarch my

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Speaker 3: I love it. We have a lot of other stuff

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Speaker 3: to talk about first, And you wrote a story for

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Speaker 3: the Terminal for the Bloomberg terminal that I thought was

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Speaker 3: really cool because at first glance, I kind of my

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Speaker 3: heart skipped a beat. I thought Porsche was going to

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Speaker 3: introduce a new Carrera GT, but it turns out it's

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Speaker 3: more like just the tires.

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Speaker 1: Just the tires. And also, if you happen to already

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Speaker 1: own a Kara GT, you can legally drive it again,

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Speaker 1: which I reached out to multiple people who do own one,

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Speaker 1: and they all told me, to a person, they never

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Speaker 1: actually stopped driving it. So I don't know if this

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Speaker 1: really affects a lot of people, but yes, the recall

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Speaker 1: of the Porscha Kara GT has ended, and as part

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Speaker 1: of sort of sweetening the deal, Porsche is giving a

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Speaker 1: free set of new Michelin tires to people who bring

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Speaker 1: the car in as part for the recall. These are

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Speaker 1: new tires developed specifically for the Kara GT, and they're

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Speaker 1: the first new set of tires that have been developed

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Speaker 1: since twenty thirteen, and before that it was just running

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Speaker 1: on old tires, So it's kind of a big deal.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is really a notorious model for being

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Speaker 1: challenging to drive. There have been some high profile accidents

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Speaker 1: in it, and it is considered really the last great

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Speaker 1: supercar from Porsche. Not to take anything away from the

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Speaker 1: nine eighteen Spider, but that is, as you.

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Speaker 3: Know, that's what I think is interesting. So I have

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Speaker 3: never driven. I don't think I've even seen a Careera

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Speaker 3: I know that Doug DeMuro bought one as soon as

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Speaker 3: he sold his website. It was like he got I

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Speaker 3: think like three million he grabbed.

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Speaker 1: Fo Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the first thing I'm gonna do is buy a

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Speaker 3: Career GT, which I thought was interesting because it's it's

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Speaker 3: love I love you know, there's no no replacement for displacement.

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Speaker 3: But I've always found the nine to eighteen to look

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Speaker 3: cooler and be it's clearly more technologically advanced. And I

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Speaker 3: do you think the Career GT will be more valuable

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Speaker 1: Yes, I definitely do. It's the it's the end of

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Speaker 1: the era. It's you know, twelve hundred were made obviously,

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Speaker 1: I don't I'm not sure the nine eighteen Spider has

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Speaker 3: No, I think you're right. I just to me because

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they they debuted it in two thousand and three

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Speaker 3: So they've developed tires with Michelin specifically for this kind

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Speaker 3: of as. We're sorry to the people that owned them

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Speaker 3: and had to I mean, would have had to stop

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Speaker 3: By the way, do you think Portia comes out with

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Speaker 3: nine to eighteen the last Porta supercar to have an

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Speaker 1: This is an interesting question and I'm going to answer

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Speaker 1: it in two parts. First of all, yes, these are

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Speaker 1: people feel better about the recall. But it also accomplishes

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Speaker 1: something else, which is it helps Porsche dealerships and Porsche

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Speaker 1: official to identify the people who own Kara gets, which

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Speaker 1: they may not necessarily have all of that data. And

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Speaker 1: heard about the Mission X, you know, that was unveiled

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Speaker 1: What will Portia do to follow up and bring out

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Speaker 3: No, I agree. In fact, the Rimac is the only

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Speaker 3: one should count as a supercar. I know this is

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Speaker 1: Is a corvette, by the way, for anyone. This is

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Speaker 3: And as you pointed out we were chatting about this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently on September fourteenth, Mark Royce, who is the

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Speaker 3: It's I think, incredibly impressive. And I was already impressed

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Speaker 1: And yeah, because usually we should say automakers use professional

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dangerous, Like if anything happens to him, it's a

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Speaker 1: That is serious. That's actually that is kind of unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: And I've met and spoken with Andy and he is

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Speaker 1: he's won like twenty four hour, twenty four hours Daytona.

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Speaker 3: Uh, I just thought, you know, two thirty three, that

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Speaker 3: even you know, two hundred, but the Bugatti does three

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Speaker 1: So it is are you putting this in your AMMO

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Speaker 1: belt for why the Corvette is a supercar?

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Speaker 1: Are you at it even though you don't care about

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Speaker 3: I don't care about top speeds. That I will say, Look,

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Speaker 3: this car can go two hundred and thirty three miles

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Speaker 3: an hour. To anyone who argues against me that it's

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Speaker 3: Royce did this in Germany, right.

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Speaker 1: In Papenberg, Germany, the town of Papenberg. And I actually,

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Speaker 1: What's what's wild? And this to me proves that horsepowers

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Speaker 3: So for the most part, I agree with you. And

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Speaker 1: Here he is Mike, Uh, it's so great to have

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Speaker 2: personal set and the first vehicle is a nine point

436
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 2: fifty four model land River series one eighty six inch

437
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: and this vehicle set up for use around bell Morral

438
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 2: as they're a state vehicle and it's got some really

439
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,959
Speaker 2: interesting little features about it. It's got some quite beats

440
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 2: in the front and some lovely little sort of seats

441
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 2: in the back for guests. But it's got a small

442
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 2: rifle rack in there which is beautifully appointed and made handmade.

443
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 2: And then these really cute, cool little doors that swing open,

444
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 2: these two sort of little doors that swing open the back.

445
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: Normally where there's a tailgate because that era of vehicles

446
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 2: normally a pickup, so there's normally a drop down targo,

447
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 2: but there's not on this. These two doors that swing

448
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 2: open so people can get in and out of it

449
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 2: a lot more easily. And yeah, it's an incredible it's

450
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 2: an incredible car. It's spent all of its life pretty

451
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 2: much out of bell Morrale right until recently. It was

452
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,360
Speaker 2: in a local museum in Blatta, which is the local

453
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: town close to Balmoral Classle, and it had been at

454
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,159
Speaker 2: the garage used after after nineteen you know, sort of

455
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 2: sixty mid sixty sixty five or so sixty six, when

456
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,439
Speaker 2: it's when the royal family stopped using it, so it

457
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 2: was used locally and then King Charles found it in

458
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 2: a in a shed Yahund about two thy ten or

459
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 2: so and it came back to Jaguar Landra and was restored,

460
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 2: and then when it went to the garage as a

461
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,879
Speaker 2: display piece, and very recently came to it came to

462
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: us to the Jaguar Lander of a classic collection.

463
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 3: So do you happen to know the entire story of

464
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,479
Speaker 3: the provenance when her Majesty acquired the vehicle? You know

465
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 3: how often she used it? Who built the rifle rack?

466
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 3: Is that like a Holland and Holland thing? Do they

467
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 3: always use that company?

468
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,359
Speaker 2: Well, so, I mean we've got to put one of

469
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 2: the things was really important with these vehicles, to put

470
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: them into the era. So it's a great question. It

471
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: will take me a minute or so to answer it

472
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: in full. So the first land rover was originally the

473
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: eighty inch and in nineteen fifty three model. That year

474
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: they developed the next eighty six and one oh seven,

475
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:17,480
Speaker 2: which is a bit like the ninety and one ten today.

476
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 2: And so as the Queen was coming into her coronation year,

477
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 2: there was this very interesting set of circumstances that the

478
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 2: vehicles they had been using, the previous eighty inch, a

479
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: very short little wheelbase, was sort of done. You know,

480
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 2: that model was over, so they needed to sort of

481
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: get these vehicles very very quickly, readily available for the

482
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 2: Queen and Prince Philip. So this vehicle it was, it's

483
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 2: a pre production vehicle. It's chassis number nine of the

484
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: eighty six inch pre production prototypes. And it went to

485
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 2: Stratston's in London, which was the retailer, the dealer that

486
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 2: had the royal warrant in the so it went there,

487
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 2: which wasn't a traditional rover dealer, and then and then

488
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 2: they spect the vehicle to how they wanted it and

489
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:10,639
Speaker 2: came back to Solihl. It was it was all built

490
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 2: up at the Special Projects which is sort of now

491
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 2: it's Special Vehicles became. It was called Special Projects in

492
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 2: those days. They appointed it and trimmed it and made

493
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,480
Speaker 2: the little rifle racks and the little rear doors and

494
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 2: everything like that for it. And then it went and

495
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: went back to them in November and replaced an earlier vehicle,

496
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 2: an eighty inch Land Drover, and that was used about

497
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 2: the place. And there's an incredible amount of photographs of

498
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 2: the vehicle in use, with the Queen and Prince Philip

499
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: enjoying that vehicle personally between themselves and also with friends

500
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 2: there's a great there's a great photograph of people are

501
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: they're at a racetrack or something and they're standing in

502
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,320
Speaker 2: the back of it with binoculars and looking out of

503
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 2: it and just enjoying it as anyone would do. A

504
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 2: really good land driver.

505
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: And the Queen herself drove this vehicle others, right, we've

506
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: seen photographs of this.

507
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was a she was a very keen driver

508
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 2: as a young woman. During the Second World War, she

509
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: she trained as a mechanic for the war effort, so

510
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: she was very very familiar with with driving vehicles and

511
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: maintaining them as well being the outdoors kind of people

512
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: that they were. Yeah, exactly, they were. You know, the

513
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: landro was perfect vehicle for those circumstances. And also in

514
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: that time when they were young, it was it was

515
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: very new. Got the end of the land The original

516
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: Andrew was launched in nineteen forty eight, so it was

517
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: sort of you know, the total the latest up and

518
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 2: coming thing those those in those days. So yeah, people people,

519
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 2: you know, it really hit the world with a with

520
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: a bang, you know, as a product, and yeah, yeah,

521
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: it was great. The for All family took that on.

522
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: It seems to me that the person the family vehicles,

523
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 1: the personal family vehicles, they're all green, and then some

524
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: of the State review vehicles are those all black. Can

525
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: you walk us through that distinction.

526
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the state review vehicles a royal claret and

527
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: royal clart it was that goes back to Queen Victoria's time,

528
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: and it's one of these, one of these, you know,

529
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 2: it's I mean, in the dispatch records they always write

530
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 2: it down just as a maroon because that's the sort

531
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 2: of color. It's so dark, indeed, and it's a very

532
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 2: sort of I suppose, and if you sort of go

533
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: back to that sort of you know, sort of Victorian

534
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 2: style era which Queen Victoria came from, and you know,

535
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 2: think of you know, beautifully appointed railway carriages and all

536
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,120
Speaker 2: these kinds of things that were you know, completely you

537
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: know modern at the time, they used that color as

538
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: a as a sign of you know, on the queen

539
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: or the king, you know, through is being in states,

540
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,800
Speaker 2: so as they moved through the through the countryside or

541
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: from town to town or whatever they are doing. And

542
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 2: so you see the royal claret color used for them

543
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 2: on other vehicles, on helicopters, and obviously in the land

544
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 2: Rovers and the range Rover State Review vehicles.

545
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,960
Speaker 3: The first vehicle the Queen got was the eighty six

546
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 3: inch wheelbase land Rover, and you say that's because previously

547
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 3: they'd made shorter wheelbases and this was a new thing.

548
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: She got a pre production number nine. Did she when

549
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 3: they made a big technological breakthrough or whenever they came

550
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 3: out with the really new design, did she always upgrade?

551
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 3: Or how often did she get a new personal vehicle.

552
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: In those days are the nine to fifties when there

553
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: was quite a rapid pace of development through the land Rovers.

554
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: You can remember it was launched as one product in

555
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: nine one forty eight, and then it went to the

556
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: two wheelbases in nineteen to fifty three for fifty four

557
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 2: model year, and then station wagons came about, and you

558
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 2: ended up by the end of the nineteen fifties with

559
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 2: this range of vehicles. You could have station wagons, or

560
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 2: you could have pickups, or you could have you know,

561
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: short wheelbases or long wheelbases or so to fulfill you know,

562
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 2: the opportunity of the royal family using the vehicles as

563
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 2: they needed. Yes, yeah, the company made sure that you know,

564
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: they had the right vehicles in the right place.

565
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about some of the mechanical

566
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: issues that you handle and manage just in your role

567
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: overseeing these vehicles. Is there something that is a consistent

568
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: bugaboo for you with these cars?

569
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 2: I mean, any museum vehicles, you know, where they're not

570
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 2: regularly used. I suppose that. I suppose when we went

571
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 2: to Pebble Beach, the Interesting Things, we took them on

572
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: a magnificent drive down the coast. It was it was amazing.

573
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: You know, they really are stunning to see. I mean,

574
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: I think it's just going to be some land rovers,

575
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: but as someone who saw them in Pebble Beach and

576
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: saw them pull onto the lawn, to your point, they're

577
00:32:55,560 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: really really there's a presence that you don't feel absolutely.

578
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: When you use these museum vehicles, and you sort of

579
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: suddenly expect them to drive, you know, twenty thirty forty

580
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: miles and they haven't really done that in a very

581
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: long time. And it's with any any older vehicle. Of course,

582
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: you're running a risk of something going wrong, something breaking down,

583
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 2: something unforeseen because you're not using the components of the

584
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: components of the car as they were designed to use,

585
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 2: and things just you know, Yeah, things just don't like

586
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: sitting around not being used. So that was that's always

587
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: when you're using older vehicles, that's always a little bit

588
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 2: of a concern. But also if you're into them, it's

589
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 2: part of the part of the fund. You know, you

590
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 2: do get a lot I do get a lot of

591
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: satisfaction out of you know, making sure that especially a

592
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 2: lot of these really special ones are seen and used

593
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 2: and you know us used in you know, for for

594
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 2: real purpose driving down the road, people seeing them and

595
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: enjoying them, filming them. So but that's one thing that's

596
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 2: a that's a common common thing to you know, I

597
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 2: say to museum cars. Other than that, there's you know,

598
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: they're yeah, they're where they're kept is in you know,

599
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: a beautiful environment, so there's no real sort of decay

600
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 2: as such. Yeah, some of the parts are getting a

601
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 2: little bit older, and you know, you've got to be

602
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: mindful of the time which they came from and just

603
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 2: supposed to be a little bit not rush things too

604
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: much is probably the best way of putting it. With

605
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: older vehicles.

606
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: Now, some of these are still owned privately, is that true?

607
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: Some of these are owned bi Jaguar and land Rover classic, right,

608
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: and then some are owned by private collectors. Is that accurate?

609
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 2: So yeah, So the majority of them are owned owned

610
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 2: by the British Motor Museum. They're kept there and there

611
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 2: is one vehicle, the fifty four model State Review Series

612
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 2: one another eighty six inch that that's privately owned by

613
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 2: a collector here in the US. And of the personal set,

614
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,279
Speaker 2: the two thousand and nine Range Rover is still owned

615
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: by the Royal Household. So they are very gracious and

616
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: letting us take the Queen's Range Drover and bring it out.

617
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:10,719
Speaker 1: That's the one with the labrador mascot, right, correct, got it?

618
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: But but has it been removed? The dog's been removed.

619
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, it's one of these it's one of these

620
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 2: incredible things that and being able to to do these

621
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 2: shows and use these vehicles to celebrate the Queen's life

622
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,280
Speaker 2: and her legacy and you know, I think the decades

623
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 2: of which she you know, serves that you know, the

624
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: various communities around the world is that when the vehicles

625
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: in use, it usually had a symbol or a mascot

626
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 2: or is something something to say that you know, the

627
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: Queen was, you know, driving her personal vehicle and you know,

628
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: for that, for that for that final rangeow we were

629
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,879
Speaker 2: we were allowed to put the put the labrador back

630
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 2: on it, the dog back on the on the bonnot

631
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: on the hood there, which was yeah, which is just

632
00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: you know, it's it's one of those things that you're

633
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 2: sort of like you're m pinch yourself. You can't believe that,

634
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 2: you know, you're sort of you're sort of doing these

635
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 2: you know, kind of kind of events. Yeah, it's it's

636
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 2: awe inspiring.

637
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 3: So but then I imagine I gathered that the Queen

638
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: would typically drive whatever. The newest vehicle that she had

639
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 3: was the two thousand and nine range Drover. Seems to

640
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 3: be the newest of the group that you're showing, and

641
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: I guess that's the one that she drove ever since

642
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 3: two thousand and nine. She then retired the previous the

643
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: Defender for example.

644
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's basically what happened. So in nineteen sixty

645
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 2: six she got a Series two a station Anger JYV

646
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: is the one D is the plate which we've got

647
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 2: on display, and so that vehicles used from nineteen sixty

648
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 2: six until nineteen eighty three, and a Triple four ROYV

649
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: which we've got on display replaced JYV and then that

650
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: vehicle was in use until about the year two thousand

651
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: and there's another Defender which they've got at the Royal

652
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: Househofs still has. They still have her last Defender and

653
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 2: then as she as she as she got older, she

654
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: moved into a range that range Rover, the two thousand

655
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 2: and nine Range Rover as her personal vehicle. But if

656
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: you see the consistent behavior of you know, keeping the vehicles,

657
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: you know she was we know she was a personally

658
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 2: loved and enjoyed driving vehicles. And you know that's you know,

659
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,240
Speaker 2: I don't if I don't have to upgrade my vehicles,

660
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: I don't because you get that harmony with it. It

661
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: comes part of the family. And that's one thing that

662
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 2: Landra has do particularly well, and range Rovers as well,

663
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: and discoveries that be Yeah, you know, people enjoy that

664
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 2: story of having the vehicle becoming the part of the

665
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: family and you know, doing whatever you know, the pursuit is.

666
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 2: You know, you go off and you go on trips,

667
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: you go off on holiday, or you go you meet

668
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,399
Speaker 2: friends or go off road driving, and you know that's

669
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: one of the nice things about it. And you can

670
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: see that consistent use. You know, there's photographs of the

671
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 2: family when they were young, all climbing all over the

672
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 2: roof of jo wav one day and you can see

673
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 2: in the back of a triple four the dog guard

674
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: and the lonole and this old fashioned style you know,

675
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 2: sort of sixties seventies lonole and they put down and

676
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: you can see the scratches of the corgis, you know,

677
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 2: clause in there and all those things bring the vehicle

678
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 2: to life. You can almost imagine you at Pebble, the

679
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: queen coming out and jumping in that range of it

680
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 2: because the mascot was on the bonnet and ready for

681
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: her to go. So, yeah, incredible thing to do.

682
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 3: Is it possible to get that paint as a consumer?

683
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 3: Could I have a land Rover, make me a range

684
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 3: Rover with the Royal claret color? Or do they reserve

685
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,280
Speaker 3: that for the monarch?

686
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: No, it's sorry, it's a closed color, sir. You would

687
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: not be interesting now it is. It's a closed color.

688
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:52,400
Speaker 2: So it's something that we wouldn't put on on a

689
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: normal color palette or anything like that. Obviously, if you

690
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: came up with your own color which was similar, we'd

691
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: probably say what do you want to do that? You

692
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: know that, but yeah, yeah, Royal Claric color is a

693
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 2: closees color, so unfortunately you can't be used.

694
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: Mike, I'm so curious. I know that you are Australian

695
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 1: and I'm so curious how you arrived at this job.

696
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: You know, very closely aligned with the British monarchy. Of

697
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 1: course obviously Australia was part of the Commonwealth. But can

698
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: you tell us a little bit about your background and

699
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: how you arrived at this role.

700
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 2: My mother and my grandmother, they were both Londoners and

701
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 2: they came out to Australia in the nineteen sixties. My

702
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 2: mum when she was a teenager, she finished school and

703
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: went to University of Melbourne. And my grandmother I never

704
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,240
Speaker 2: really really got it out of her why she left London.

705
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 2: She was just she was a London or two and

706
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: she departed us, you know, which was all When was

707
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 2: that probably twenty years ago? And we found a little

708
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 2: jar of English soil in it cupboard in Australia. We'd

709
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: never nobody had ever seen it. It was just sort of

710
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 2: hidden in the corner.

711
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: How did you know it was English soil.

712
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: Because had a label on it with a handwriting saying

713
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 2: English soil.

714
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: Wow.

715
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was very that was very moving and anyway,

716
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 2: because I suppose, you know, this curiosity in me as

717
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: you know, I had my Australian family, which you know,

718
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 2: and grew up in Australia and you know, that's that's fantastic,

719
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: but the British side was always a great curiosity to me. Anyway,

720
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: I when I was when I was fourteen, I bought

721
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: my first landro which is a nine forty nine model

722
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: inch wheelbase and this brought out these conversations with my

723
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 2: mother and my grandmother about about family and you know,

724
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 2: farming family connections we had in Scotland and stuff like that,

725
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 2: and they remembered the vehicle. So that sort of I

726
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: suppose that sort of raised a curiosity about me at

727
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: that age when you're a teenager, a young teenager and

728
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 2: you're sort of like working out where you fit in

729
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 2: the world. And so the andre sort of helped me

730
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 2: do that. And by the time I mean I got

731
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 2: that vehicle on the road, by the time I was

732
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: had my had my first driving license and used it

733
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 2: and I still got I still have it and use

734
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: it quite regularly with my son. But that that sort

735
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: of took put me on this journey to sort of

736
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 2: discovering that, you know, the true home of Landre and

737
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: a little bit of you know, where I come from too,

738
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: from that British side. So I started, I started writing

739
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: about the vehicles and how they developed and changed. And

740
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 2: you know, there's a there's a you know, in the

741
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: development of the original vehicle from nineteen forty eight to

742
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: about that that sort of first Queen's Card, the eighty six.

743
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 2: It is an incredible, incredibly rapid pace, you know, for

744
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: you know, for a relatively small post war company, because

745
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: before the wall Rover cars, I only did about ten

746
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: thousand units, and by the by the end of the

747
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 2: end of the nineteen fifties are well into the sort

748
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 2: of sixty seventy thousand odd units, you know, which you

749
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: know is a massive transfer, you know. And so I

750
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,880
Speaker 2: wrote about all those things. And as I sort of

751
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: went along did that, the Internet came along. I started

752
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,760
Speaker 2: writing on the Internet in its very early days, and

753
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 2: then anyone in Britain who got their first modem looked

754
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 2: up if they're landra A fanly searched landro and they

755
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: came across me. So I sort of built this, I

756
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 2: suppose notoriety, the speciality, the storytelling side to the vehicles

757
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: and where they came from. And on the back of that,

758
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: in two thousand and ten I found the last remaining

759
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 2: engineer of that original Land of A program in nineteen

760
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 2: forty eight living in Brisbane, Australia, and his name is

761
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 2: Arthur Goddard, and I wrote a book about him and

762
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,240
Speaker 2: interviewed him about his life and he was the guy

763
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 2: who developed the State reviewing vehicles for the Queen and

764
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: so he had he poto. There's a photograph that we

765
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 2: can we can share with you of Arthur with his

766
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 2: team in Edinburgh, Edinburgh about to show the Queen the

767
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 2: first version of the State review vehicle that she was

768
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 2: going to take on tour on the Commonwealth Tour for

769
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: for a coronation in nineteen fifty four. So I learned

770
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 2: all these all these all these little bits and pieces

771
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 2: from from Arthur about that program, about those early days.

772
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 2: And by this point my wife and I were living

773
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 2: in England for a bit for her many firstly for

774
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: her career, but it ended up really being for my

775
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: career with with land Rovers and you know, I went

776
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 2: and worked for Land for Experience for twelve months and

777
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: that was in twenty eleven and I'm still here now, Wow.

778
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 3: Mike, did the Queen only drive land Rovers or did

779
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 3: she also have maybe a Jag or a Bentley Rolls Royce?

780
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 3: I mean, did she have a stable.

781
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: Back in the in the in the nineteen sixties, she

782
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 2: had some Rover cars, some Rover we were the famous

783
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 2: Rover P five B which was built at solly holl

784
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: as well. That vehicles in the British Motor Museum, and

785
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 2: that was that was a popular cause. Often what they

786
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 2: call the Prime Minister's Car in the in the UK,

787
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: it's a car that sort of was the late fifties,

788
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: you know, sorry, late sixties, seventies, that of prime minister

789
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: look car and then you know, once once they dropped away.

790
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: She used Jaguars mainly, as we've got one of the

791
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: Jaguars at work in the Classic collection. What about the King?

792
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 3: Does he have any favorite vehicles that you know of?

793
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 3: Are you allowed to talk about.

794
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: That what he uses for his vehicles at the moment? No,

795
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 2: Unfortunately I can't discuss them, so, I mean I can't.

796
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: My My specialization is in the older products, older vehicles,

797
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 2: and yeah, hopefully one day you know, we'll be able

798
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 2: to explore that story further.

799
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 3: You know, how about the special You mentioned the Special

800
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 3: Projects Department, and I think it's public knowledge that they

801
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 3: electrified a classic jag for the princes on his wedding

802
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 3: as a wedding gift. Is that is that something you

803
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 3: can talk about?

804
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was a program which we called

805
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 2: Atype zero. It was an idea that we explored to

806
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 2: see if we could we could do it just as

807
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: a sort of a bit of fun as an engineering project,

808
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: which we achieved and we did a really nice job

809
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 2: of it. I mean, the vehicle was incredibly overly appointed,

810
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 2: you know, in the sense it had a digital dash

811
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: facure and all these things that we weren't you know

812
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,439
Speaker 2: of that era that the Atype was originally made, And yeah,

813
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 2: that was that was used as part of the royal wedding.

814
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 2: But that's nicely sitting in the collection now at Jaguar

815
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 2: Landre a classic a waiting for its you know, next

816
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: moment in time, whenever that is.

817
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: Mike, I'm so curious, just going back to the history

818
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: that you kind of walked us through with land Rover,

819
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: can you tell us what was the sort of a

820
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: writing philosophy that was really propelling the company back in

821
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: the early days, like in the fifties and you know,

822
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 1: maybe early sixties. What was really the driving force that

823
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: really gave it this soul that has lasted all of

824
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: these years.

825
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:22,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really brilliant question. So after the Second

826
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 2: World War, the company had found itself in a really

827
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: interesting position because it had been a niche luxury car manufacturer,

828
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 2: which the business model worked. It was eighty percent home

829
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: market sales and about twenty percent export, and that export

830
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: was only Commonwealth countries, so it was all right hand drive.

831
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: There was no left hand cars made for the Second

832
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: World War. And obviously after the Second World War the

833
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 2: company had grown exponentially during and they got involved in

834
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 2: all kinds of engineering projects, developing Merlin engines, developing jet

835
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 2: engines with Frank Whittle, all these kind of things, and

836
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: suddenly got back into into into car production as or

837
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: finished and there was a much bigger company and they

838
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 2: had bigger factories, and they needed it, and they needed

839
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: a product that would would would fit those times. And

840
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,839
Speaker 2: so they looked around quite closely at various you know,

841
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 2: sort of opportunities of what was going on at the

842
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 2: time outside of luxury car manufacture. And one of the

843
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 2: things they noticed was how practical I suppose the Second

844
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: World War vehicles were in general as trucks or you know,

845
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 2: original wartime jeeps and those kind of things. And they

846
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 2: kinbed up the idea of making a vehicle of along

847
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,760
Speaker 2: along that practical use that people could use for anything,

848
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 2: for farming, for transport, for towing. But it was going

849
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: to be it needed to be a lot more, you know,

850
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: a lot better than a military vehicle. It needed to

851
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: have doors, that needed to have full weather protected. Creature

852
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: company and they sort of sold them in because you know,

853
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: the Rover cars were luxury cars, so it sort of

854
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: it sort of fitted into this one of Britain's fine cars,

855
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 2: you message that they gave and you could use it

856
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: for anything, anything and everything. You know, it was the

857
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: world's most versatile vehicle at the time. You could take

858
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 2: the doors off, you could put the doors on, you

859
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: could take the hood off, you could keep the hood on,

860
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: and you could put seven people in it. You could

861
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 2: have two people in it. You could do all this.

862
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 2: You had a power take off it. You could use

863
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: it for mowing, you could use put a winch on

864
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 2: the front of it, all these things, and the one

865
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: thing that they're very carefully is they gave the vehicle

866
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 2: a very distinct look in the face and the front

867
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 2: fenders coming down and the sort of you know, the

868
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 2: grille and lights. It almost looks like a little sort

869
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: of I suppose a set of eyes looking at you,

870
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 2: and it gives you that sort of the caricature of it.

871
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 2: And the other really really clever thing that they did

872
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 2: was they made the functionality of the vehicle really intuitive.

873
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 2: And this is one thing that Morris Will was really

874
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 2: really into. He's into development creative engineering from almost a

875
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:08,919
Speaker 2: sort of like an engineering art as a form, and

876
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 2: he'd been doing this a long time with you know,

877
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 2: in the nine thirty If we look at a lot

878
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 2: of his you know, his ideas that didn't then necessarily

879
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 2: go anywhere, you can sort of see the same theme

880
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: through that. And so so how that all works is

881
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: on a series vehicle, the full drive system. You have

882
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,479
Speaker 2: a yellow lever and a red lever and you drive

883
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,720
Speaker 2: down the road and you know, if the road something's

884
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:32,319
Speaker 2: got a bit of snow, or it becomes a bit

885
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,600
Speaker 2: muddy or a little bit of gravel, the yellow is cautionary.

886
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 2: We know that from you know, basically basic traffic light systems.

887
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 2: You've got you know sort of you're red for stop.

888
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:44,840
Speaker 2: You you know, you're yellow or orange for caution, or

889
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: you're green for go. So they put that yellow as

890
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 2: a cautionary. So you push down the yellow lever and

891
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: it's full wheel drive and then you go. If you

892
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 2: go a little bit further, if you need low ratio,

893
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: it's a red lever. You red, so that's stop and

894
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 2: you stop it and you put into low ratio and

895
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 2: the vehicle go further. Very simple, and it's that connection

896
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 2: between the driver or operator looking at the circumstances and

897
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 2: setting the vehicle up to how how it works, and

898
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 2: then you can suddenly start to have some fun with

899
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 2: the vehicles. And this is this is what happened. If

900
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,959
Speaker 2: you look at all the early photographs of people using

901
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,800
Speaker 2: the vehicles on the test trackers at Soliholt as days

902
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 2: to enjoy themselves, not just days of learning how to

903
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,920
Speaker 2: operate the vehicle. You can see your people, you know,

904
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 2: waving and cheering and doing all these things. And in

905
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 2: the late nineteen forties and early nineteen fifties, that was

906
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 2: just an incredible thing to do because pro the Second

907
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: World War, only only really really extremely wealthy people used

908
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 2: cars for racing or enjoyable pursuits. It was something that

909
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 2: you know, was out of reach of most people. And yeah,

910
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:53,400
Speaker 2: that's that's how how you get those stories about the vehicles.

911
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 2: You know, the vehicle that helped us do this and

912
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 2: helped us do that, or we did this or did that,

913
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 2: and suddenly the vehicle, you know, the land comes part

914
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:04,200
Speaker 2: of the family. And that's why that's why it's so endearing.

915
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,759
Speaker 2: And you read all these you know, these expeditions or

916
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 2: these you know, the stories of you know, people who

917
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 2: have had them, who have been a notoriety through through decades,

918
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: and you get that same consistent Oh, we went in

919
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 2: the Landro and we did this, or we drove across

920
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 2: that country, or this is what happened. Suddenly the landro

921
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 2: was part of the part of the story, part of

922
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: the part of the group, part of the set of friends.

923
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: And on the expedition and on.

924
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 3: The trip, Mike, you clearly care more about the spirit

925
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 3: of the vehicle and what it brings to you know,

926
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 3: the public, for example, than you do about the value.

927
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 3: But I wonder about how much it would cost to

928
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 3: acquire a vehicle that was once owned and driven by

929
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 3: the Queen just because it would be so cool.

930
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: High persidic on the market.

931
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: Do we have do we have any idea what kind

932
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 3: of premium people are willing to pay for a vehicle

933
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,160
Speaker 3: that was owned and driven by what has to be

934
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,280
Speaker 3: the most popular monarch in living history.

935
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,319
Speaker 2: It's one thing after state first, it's it's it's not

936
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 2: easy to do to find a vehicle like that. So yeah,

937
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: so for example, I'll give you example when they when

938
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 2: they did the nine to fifty four Royal Tour and

939
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 2: they produced twelve State Review vehicles, so most have ever done.

940
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 2: Because she was because she was going around the around

941
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 2: the world, around big countries like Australia, also to New

942
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,880
Speaker 2: Zealand and other places. She also needed needed little land

943
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:49,080
Speaker 2: Rover in every port, so to speak. And once those

944
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 2: once those vehicles were finished with, the message was to

945
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 2: turn them back into standard Landos and to sell them off.

946
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 2: So they'd lose there, you know, they wouldn't wouldn't retain

947
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 2: any any any any of provenance or you know, sort

948
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 2: of history or that. And the ones that the one that

949
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 2: survives or the two there's two that survive for whatever reason,

950
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 2: they just were sold off, but they didn't take the

951
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: ceremonial back off the vehicle that stayed. So that was

952
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 2: just a quirk of fate that happened. That where the

953
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 2: other ones have gone, nobody knows. So that's the first thing.

954
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,839
Speaker 2: It's not it's not easy to go and find one

955
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 2: of these very rare, very rare, which does make them

956
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 2: collectible obviously. So and I suppose if anything in life,

957
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 2: if you really, if you, if you're into collecting something

958
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 2: and you look hard enough, you never know what will

959
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 2: turn up.

960
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: I did hear a dollar figure in that response? I mean,

961
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: can we assume these are not seven figure vehicles but

962
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:49,640
Speaker 1: six figure mid six figures?

963
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 2: The vehicles I know that have you know, sold, have

964
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 2: gone into that that area. It's not something that because

965
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 2: we're you know, jagu Orlandra where the holders of the

966
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 2: royal warrant for the vehicles. It's not something that we

967
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 2: actively do. You know, we're obviously very respectful of a

968
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 2: relationship with the royal family. But yees, the vehicles that

969
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 2: I do know that have made it into private hands. Yeah,

970
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,959
Speaker 2: you're talking in those kind of figures.

971
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: Well, Mike, thank you. So much for your time. Remind

972
00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: our listeners again where they can see and explore these

973
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: rigs in New York.

974
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 2: Yes, so it's from the seventeenth the Rockefeller Center in

975
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 2: New York. Yeah, come and see us. It will be

976
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 2: an incredible display of vehicles, the ones we showed at

977
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 2: Pebble Beach from nineteen fifty four until two thousand and nine.

978
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 2: And yeah, they up until Pebble Beach, they'd never been

979
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 2: shown as a full set, and they do a brilliant

980
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 2: job of celebrating the Queen's legacy, reign and community service

981
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 2: over the decades to all of us even enjoyed the

982
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: watching and appreciating what she does.

983
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:07,879
Speaker 3: Excellent. Well, welcome to New York and thanks so much

984
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 3: for joining us.

985
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 2: Absolute pleasure.

986
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 3: All right. That was Mike Bishop from Jaguar Landrover or

987
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 3: from Landrover more specifically, very cool story and I will

988
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 3: be going to Rocke Color Center to check out those views.

989
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 1: Send me picks. That'll be great.

990
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 3: I mainly want to see the color what did he

991
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 3: call it.

992
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: Again, Clara, Yes, Claire, but it looks in a photograph

993
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,399
Speaker 1: and I'd forgotten I guess it, and even in real

994
00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 1: life it looks almost black. It's really dark. It's a cool,

995
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 1: vampy color.

996
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,320
Speaker 3: I'm partial to those. I'm partially colors that look black

997
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 3: in most lights. And then, for example, the Mercedes Emerald

998
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 3: green color green, it mostly looks black and odd. There

999
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 3: are sort of super sunny occasions where you're like, oh,

1000
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 3: my goodness, it's a sparkling green, and I love that.

1001
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 3: BMW does it too with their carbon black. It looks

1002
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 3: black all the time, and then if you see it

1003
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 3: in certain sunlights, it's blue.

1004
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: Oh. I need to go back and look. And I

1005
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: hadn't thought of that, but that's I need to get

1006
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 1: in some BMW's. I haven't driven any in a minute.

1007
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 3: Yes you should. Yeah, by the way, because I'm in

1008
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 3: my basement and we're on zoom, there's a slight delay,

1009
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 3: and we talked over each other a lot at first.

1010
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 3: Now I've been making a conscious effort over the past say,

1011
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 3: six months, not to do that, because we got an

1012
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,799
Speaker 3: email from a guy once who was like, dude, it's

1013
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 3: killing me. You can't keep talking me over Hannah. And

1014
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 3: also my wife was like, your horrible person. So I

1015
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 3: tried to stop doing that and we got did you

1016
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 3: see the email we got from this guy Peter, and

1017
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 3: said he stopped listing all together.

1018
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to bring it up, but yeah, yeah,

1019
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: I saw it, but he said he started listening again,

1020
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: which thank you, Peter for giving us a second chance.

1021
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: That is, we're so happy to hear it. And look,

1022
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:59,879
Speaker 1: nobody's perfect and we always are striving for continual improvement,

1023
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 1: so thank you for throwing throwing us another another chance.

1024
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 3: I wanted to go through some of the emails that

1025
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 3: we've been getting and by the way, you can shoot

1026
00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 3: us an email. Hot pursuit at Bloomberg dot net is

1027
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 3: the email address again, hot pursuit at Bloomberg dot net.

1028
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 3: I actually found a few emails that I had missed

1029
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 3: from months ago, so I was excited to dig some

1030
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 3: out of my spam box. But one that I get

1031
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 3: often is or that we both get off and is

1032
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 3: people asking us to review or asking me to review

1033
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 3: the Dodge Charger. EV that's not possible right now, like

1034
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 3: we can't, they're not even out there.

1035
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: I've actually asked a couple times for even for insight

1036
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: about when we might be able to get it. And yeah,

1037
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: I've had some even some girlfriends here in La asking

1038
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: about it. They're very Look, the streets want it, the

1039
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: streets want it, and we hear you. We just we

1040
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: can't get it one yet, so we'll we'll stay on

1041
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: it though.

1042
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 3: And you know, obviously Stalantis is having spectacular problems in

1043
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 3: the market right now. The stock has absolutely cratered, and

1044
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 3: the CEO, Carlos Tavares, will not be renewing his contract

1045
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 3: when he retires in twenty twenty six. They're going to

1046
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 3: find somebody else. And he actually kind of threw his

1047
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 3: CFO under the bus last week, So there's some management

1048
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 3: shakeup going on. There. Is that fair to say, Hannah, I.

1049
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: Think that's fair to say. I mean, I kind of

1050
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 1: cringe anytime there's like public disparagement between band members, company

1051
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,200
Speaker 1: chiefs of steffff et cetera.

1052
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 3: Wait, band members, I'm talking about holl of Oaths right now.

1053
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 1: I was talking about Oasis. But we can talk about

1054
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: Hall of Oats if you want. I just saw Clapton

1055
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: at the Bull We can talk. I'm wearing the T shirt.

1056
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: We can talk about any of this, sure.

1057
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: Well.

1058
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 3: I mean, in terms of Stillantis, they've had such a

1059
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 3: difficult time and I feel like it's self inflicted. They

1060
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:13,960
Speaker 3: canceled their most popular Dodge models. They only make one Chrysler.

1061
00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 3: I don't even know if you can buy the minivan anymore.

1062
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 3: There's no more V eight in their ram trucks. And

1063
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:22,919
Speaker 3: this is still America. Last time I checked, Carlos and

1064
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:25,920
Speaker 3: the Jeeps are priced way too high. Yeah, what is

1065
00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 3: a pretty good vehicle but is not a Mercedes. So

1066
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 3: they've done this all themselves. And the CFO when she

1067
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 3: got hired last year, she's like, Hey, we're having difficulty

1068
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 3: meeting these targets like this is there are real problems here.

1069
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 3: So she was the one who was calling out the

1070
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 3: emperor has no clothes, and the emperor was like, you

1071
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 3: are banished. I have clothes.

1072
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, that's kind of a no. That's

1073
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: a thankless job to be the one to say that,

1074
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,920
Speaker 1: because it's this it's a no one win situation. I

1075
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: have empathy for that. But you did mention minivan. And

1076
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 1: I want to say I recently found myself in Parker, Colorado,

1077
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 1: where I did drive a two thousand and two Dodge Caravan.

1078
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: So for any who believe that I'm too up tight

1079
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Speaker 1: or snotty to drive any vehicle, that is not true.

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Speaker 1: I had a great time driving that caravan around and

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Speaker 1: I drove it to Grease Monkeys for an oil change,

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Speaker 1: and I have to say shout out to Grease Monkeys

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Speaker 1: and Parker, Colorado. They did. They had a great service

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Speaker 1: and very friendly atmosphere. So you know, we do we

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Speaker 1: go high we go low on this show, right, Matt,

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Speaker 1: Yes we do.

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Speaker 3: And I noticed, well you go high even when you

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Speaker 3: go low, because the Dodge caravan had white gauges, which

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Speaker 3: I imagine must have been at least a thousand dollars option.

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Speaker 3: They were beautiful.

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Speaker 1: There's no way those cost one thousand dollars back in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and two on a caravan. Those were probably

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Speaker 1: a no cost option. I'm guessing, well they could have been.

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Speaker 3: They could as Are there any other emails that you

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Speaker 3: wanted to hit?

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Speaker 1: No other than I did have one person request the

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Speaker 1: idea that maybe we could talk about the profits per

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01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: unit for every automaker, which is a great idea. We

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Speaker 1: had mentioned the profit per unit at Ferrari, which is

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Speaker 1: like one hundred and eighty three thousand euros per car.

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Speaker 1: If I remember, right, yeah, I think there you go.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking into that because it's a great question and

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Speaker 1: I personally would love to just see them stacked up

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Speaker 1: all against each other. So we'll come back to you

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Speaker 1: on that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know what we'll do on the Bloomberg

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01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 3: terminal will type BI go and we'll just come through

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01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,480
Speaker 3: or BI space auto go, and then we can just

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Speaker 3: come through the library and find I love that stuff

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Speaker 3: as well, because.

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Speaker 1: Favorite thing I nerd. I'm not I'm not a data person,

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01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 1: but I nerd out with that. I love doing that.

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01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 3: Well, and the data library that Bloomberg can tell Elligence

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01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 3: has on the terminal is insane, but you have to

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01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 3: know how to navigate it.

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01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm still learning, all right.

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Speaker 3: Cool, we'll definitely do that. I love to hear about

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Speaker 3: margins because remember Tesla margins were like twenty percent a

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Speaker 3: couple of years ago, and they've been compressing those drastically

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Speaker 3: to try and squeeze out of proper. They had a

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Speaker 3: tough week as well, by the way, in terms of

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Speaker 3: the stock right, because they showed that Robotaxi, which was

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Speaker 3: a total clock the presentation was, and then they showed

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Speaker 3: their robot Optimists, which it turns out they were actually

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Speaker 3: operating by remote control with humans at least partially. You

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Speaker 3: can't make this up.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know. Oh yeah, no comment, All.

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Speaker 3: Right, what do you what do you? What are you doing?

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Speaker 3: What should we look forward to? Hannah? And then we'll

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Speaker 3: get off.

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Speaker 1: Good question. You know what. This is not correlated, but

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Speaker 1: I'm going to the opening of the Fall Exhibits at

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Speaker 1: Skirball the Scareball Center at here in LA and they've

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Speaker 1: got a Diane von Furstenberg exhibit. So anybody who's interested

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Speaker 1: in fashion or Diane von Furstenberg or culture or any

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Speaker 1: anything like that, I guess she's part of the Fall exhibit.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going to go see that. I'm looking forward

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Speaker 1: to it.

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Speaker 3: That sounds very cool. Yeah, I am.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 3: For one thing, I'm going to drive that Bentley that

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Speaker 3: you drove in Switzerland.

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01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: Which good, good, good good.

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Speaker 3: The Continental GT, which I can't wait to do.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear what you think? That'll be

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Speaker 1: really good.

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Speaker 3: For another thing, there's a cars and Coffee in Bedford

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Speaker 3: that I'm going to go to.

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Speaker 1: I've got a lot of friends there. What are you taking?

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Speaker 1: Are you driving? Sure?

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Speaker 3: I guess I'll drive the Bentley. I mean my other

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01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 3: choice is I have a Jaguar F type convertible right now,

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Speaker 3: which is probably the last time I'll ever drive it.

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Speaker 3: But it doesn't seem as special as the brand new

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Speaker 3: Bentley Continental GT. The only thing is is that going

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Speaker 3: to be a popular cart car and coffee? Like? Who cares?

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Speaker 3: I looking at looking at it right?

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Speaker 1: No, it's too new. You need something old, the older.

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Speaker 3: I mean, even if I pop the hood, no one

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Speaker 3: can say no.

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Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, I'd park it out of sight and

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Speaker 1: just walk up.

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Speaker 2: I'll do that.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring my daughters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 3: I thought about that. It'll be fun to drive it there,

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Speaker 3: but it won't be fun to show it because it's

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Speaker 3: just like, look.

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Speaker 1: It's not that kind of meet up, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: not right there to great, we should have him back on.

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Speaker 3: Agreed, And then I'm gonna go to Sergil Simpson at

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Speaker 3: Forest Hills.

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Speaker 1: That's cool. Who are you taking?

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Speaker 3: I'm taking my Wife'll be right. He's a favorite of

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Speaker 3: both of ours, So I'm pretty pumped.

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Speaker 1: Who's the opener? Do you know?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm kind of hoping it'll be Culture Wall,

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Speaker 3: but I doubt that's going to be the case. Recently

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Speaker 3: discovered Culture Wall he's like this dude from Saskatchewan that

1181
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 3: sounds like some country whaler from the forties. I highly

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01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 3: recommend listening to his songs. I think it's called Songs

1183
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:18,000
Speaker 3: from the Prairie, which is just a fantastic, bare bones,

1184
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:25,680
Speaker 3: really classic country, old school country in Western Well.

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Speaker 1: All right, I like I can get into it. Have fun.

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Speaker 3: That's all I got for you. That's all I think

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Speaker 3: we have for this week. So meet us back here,

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Speaker 3: same time, same place next week. Shoot us in the

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Speaker 3: email if you have any suggestions or critiques. Hot Pursuit

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Speaker 3: at bloomberg zatnet is the email address.

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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Miller and I'm Hannah Elliott, and this is

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg