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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 1: I'm Brian Campbell. This this morning combat.

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Speaker 2: Back in the saddle again here on this Wednesday, June

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Speaker 2: twenty second, twenty twenty two. That's a lot of twos

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Speaker 2: twenty two twos. Hi, everyone, My name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I am merely one half of your hosting duo, joined

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Speaker 2: by the returning King of Connecticut himself, my friend in yours,

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Speaker 2: the beij one. He calls himself a bunch of names

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Speaker 2: that don't make sense given who he is, But hey,

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Speaker 2: who cares. Who's fact checking around here? It's Brian Campbell,

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Speaker 2: b C. How are you doing? Son?

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Speaker 1: Back in action, Luke, refreshed from an incredible vacation in

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Speaker 1: your your SITEE Washington, d C. I know, Luke, a

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Speaker 1: lot of people are looking for the juicy details. Did

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Speaker 1: we hang out? Did our family members get it get along?

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Speaker 2: You know?

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Speaker 1: Did we blow up each other's spot? I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: how did it go? It didn't go, Luke, it didn't

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Speaker 1: go at all. Unfortunately, my son caught ill the night before, Luke,

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Speaker 1: I was faced with a difficult decision potentially infect Columbia,

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Speaker 2: Luke. Okay, well, yes, I'm glad to hear you do

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Speaker 2: that very quickly. Tell us about your impressions of my

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Speaker 2: my city, but also everyone who lives in the United States.

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Speaker 2: It's the capitol, which is like, this.

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Speaker 1: Was a tremendous vacation staying down there. I believe they

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Speaker 1: call it the district wharf, Luke, Is that it is that?

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Speaker 2: What? They're just just the wharf? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Uh, Luke, this was great. Now, do I have negatives

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Speaker 1: about your city? Yeah? The price, people's attitudes separate from that, Luke.

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Speaker 1: This is a beautiful, amazing, historic, fantastic city that I

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Speaker 1: I'm wrong here. Okay, I don't want to. I don't

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Speaker 1: the ditch here. But that National Mall, Luke, And there's

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Speaker 1: But that National Mall, Luke, it's there's almost you know.

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Speaker 1: And I don't get down on politics, you know that

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Speaker 1: from Forrest Gum coming out of the water. It felt special, Luke,

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Speaker 1: and I had. I had a great time in your city.

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Speaker 1: I mean, dude, what a place, right. I can't believe

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, in the place he's talking about for

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Speaker 2: folks who don't know, it's basically the patch of grass

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Speaker 1: War two Fountain, Luke, big big, big ups to that.

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Speaker 2: Yeahduki had a big melt down there one time because

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Speaker 2: is expensive as shit. Yes, it is brou First of all.

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Speaker 2: Might there might be some of that you can see

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Speaker 2: show today, dude, we have to get to let's see,

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Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, how about your interview with Danny sabs With

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Speaker 2: Dude, Sabatello is fucking hilarious because I asked himim like,

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Speaker 2: My biggest takeaways he fucking sucks And I was like, okay.

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Speaker 1: He basically was like if you ain't down with that,

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Speaker 1: I was into it. People can check that out, of course,

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Speaker 2: Bellator really needs. But more than that, and this is real,

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Speaker 2: whole tournament. I know a lot of folks may not

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Speaker 2: believe that because he's kind of a loudmouth, but he

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Speaker 2: I've got merch on right BC's got merch on. You

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Speaker 2: our athletic greens read here. We need to promote our

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Speaker 2: live show, not this Friday, but the following Friday when

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Speaker 2: we're in Las Vegas. So July first, if memory serves

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Speaker 2: July first, let's announce it now. Five pm is about

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Speaker 2: And you're asking, where's beer house? Dude, a block from

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Speaker 2: a rock and hit beer House. It's right there, right

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Speaker 2: next to Park, MGM and BC Live Show. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: It's that indoor outdoor restaurant slash bar. If you haven't

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Speaker 1: seen it. That's connected to the New York New York.

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Speaker 1: You have to walk past it if you're leaving T

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Speaker 1: know that they got the big Jengle blocks outside all

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Speaker 1: that bullshit, but inside there's even more bullshit. And that's

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Speaker 1: Luke and BC gonna make it look easy. Some special guests.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna react to all things fight Week. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: do a lot of real weird shit stuff, probably, Luke.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if if Twoe shows up, one will bang too.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I could be drinking it out of someone's orifice, Luke.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen, But the only way

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Speaker 1: to find out is Friday, five pm Pacific, International Fight Week.

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Speaker 1: Be there, Okay, be there seriously. And I know a

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Speaker 1: lot of people, Luke. They're already saying, I got my

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Speaker 1: travel ready, I want to be there. I want to

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Speaker 1: be a live DM from Dunk. Come on, bro, you

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Speaker 1: know the saying, right are you coming on? Come the

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Speaker 1: fuck on? Already?

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Speaker 2: There you go, five PMPT five pm local time, right

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Speaker 2: after the weigh ins are over at T Mobile, come

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Speaker 2: see us at beer house. You cannot miss it. It's

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Speaker 2: free to get in. We're gonna have a good time

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Speaker 2: a live MK showing you asked for it, We're gonna

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Speaker 2: give it to you. Last, but not least, BC, Before

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Speaker 2: we get into all of today's topics, I want to

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Speaker 2: talk about ag one. Now. I know you were traveling

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Speaker 2: in DC recently. Were you drinking your ag one when

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Speaker 2: you were on the road?

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Speaker 1: I was, and I think it helped not only myself

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Speaker 1: but my entire family bounce back because you know, on

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Speaker 1: the road, Luke, you can get a scratchy throat, you

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Speaker 1: can get something going on here. But here's the deal.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day, Luke, I love. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't taste super healthy, is the mid tropical taste. But

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Speaker 1: in terms of starting my day each morning, Luke, it

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Speaker 1: makes me feel good. I don't do a lot of

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Speaker 1: things that are good that make me feel good. Usually

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Speaker 1: it's the bad things that make you feel good. Is

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Speaker 1: a good thing, Luke, right.

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Speaker 2: My wrong, No, no doubt about it. And as you

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Speaker 2: indicate it, it supports let's see gut health, immune health, aging,

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Speaker 2: I don't hate it. It just seems woefully irrelevant because

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Speaker 2: That seemed to me a very clear round for Calvin

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Speaker 1: But here's what this would fix, Luke, I want to

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it will eliminate that bullshit. I

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, Lee James Borthwick, the bloke who's slay

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Speaker 1: I think that's the best way to eliminate the bullshit.

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Speaker 1: I really believe you're not going to fix everything. I

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Speaker 1: just think in the long run, you're going to fix

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Speaker 1: better these situations. Anyway, that doesn't matter, Luke Emmett next

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Speaker 1: title shot. Is it dependent upon Yayra or Tega, who

430
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Speaker 1: have bigger names shining in a bright light come July sixteenth?

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Speaker 1: Is it dependent upon that?

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Speaker 2: I think it is. Yair is a guy who I'm

433
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Speaker 2: sure the UFC you know, I've had issues with him.

434
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Speaker 2: They cut him for crying out loud, then brought him

435
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Speaker 2: back and all that kind of stuff. But I do

436
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Speaker 2: believe they would rather have him in a title picture

437
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Speaker 2: than Josh Emmitt if for no other reason, well two reasons.

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Speaker 2: One he's younger, and then two he obviously would have

439
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Speaker 2: a connection to the Mexican audience, which they're always trying

440
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Speaker 2: to grow and build. It's very very important for them, understandably,

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Speaker 2: Yah hear brings to two of those major solutions that

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Speaker 2: they want in somebody who's a sort of an interesting contender,

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Speaker 2: Josh Emmett. I think would be a certainly to me,

444
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Speaker 2: it'd be a little bit more interesting to have Emmett

445
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Speaker 2: fight one of these two guys. Obviously Max already fought

446
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Speaker 2: Ya year and I and I do I would be

447
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Speaker 2: interested in seeing a Volkanowski. Yeah, your fight, I think,

448
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Speaker 2: I told Aaron Bron said of that, but I think

449
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Speaker 2: an Emmitt fight would be really, really, really fun as well.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think I think if that fight sucks

451
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Speaker 2: or Ortega wins, then I think Emmett's gonna get it.

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Speaker 2: But I do think if yeah Ear wins, and especially

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Speaker 2: if you win spectacularly, which is unlikely but certainly possible,

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Speaker 2: then they're gonna go towards him.

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Speaker 1: In Cator's favor, I'm sorry, in Emmet's favor. He's on

456
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Speaker 1: a nice win streak right now. Those other guys are

457
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Speaker 1: coming off of defeats, but they do have some pretty

458
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Speaker 1: big names. It's going to be interesting. I don't know, Luke,

459
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Speaker 1: I'm just starting to feel like Josh Emmont's that that

460
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Speaker 1: motherfucker he's that he's good, dude. He's really told he's

461
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Speaker 1: got the best tats in the game. You've been up

462
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Speaker 1: on his ubl upper bound limits for a long time.

463
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Speaker 1: So let me day one is she give you that credit?

464
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Speaker 1: But he has earned it, dude, right, you know, doesn't

465
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Speaker 1: grind it.

466
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and not just not just tough guys, but like

467
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Speaker 2: he's got He's overcome a lot of physical ailments. Even

468
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Speaker 2: in this fight. His face was turned into hamburger and

469
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Speaker 2: he looked like shit when he was on Michael Bisbin's podcast,

470
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Speaker 2: you know, which I don't say like insultingly. I mean,

471
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Speaker 2: he just through a rough experience. He has really sacrificed

472
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Speaker 2: a lot to be here. And so if he's getting

473
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Speaker 2: big wins against legit guys, and again, a three two

474
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Speaker 2: score card for him is entirely justified. If not the

475
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Speaker 2: outright correct one, you know you got to you gotta

476
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Speaker 2: start thinking what do we owe him. I know the

477
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Speaker 2: UFC may not think of it that way, but I

478
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Speaker 2: do as a media guy, and he might be owed

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Speaker 2: one here depending on what happens.

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Speaker 1: I know what I owe him. I owe him a

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Speaker 1: spot on the Room Services Diaries couch. All right, Josh,

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Speaker 1: I bring it's great.

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Speaker 2: One more fin. I wanted to ask you about over

484
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Speaker 2: the weekend very quickly, and we had kind of not

485
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Speaker 2: like passed it over. We talked about it on Friday,

486
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Speaker 2: and I did think that Arthurpreteriev was gonna win. But dude,

487
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Speaker 2: he beat the fucking breaks off of Joe Junior. I

488
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Speaker 2: mean it wasn't even close. That double uppercut. He had

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Speaker 2: lead hand, rear hand, and then eventually just pushed him

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Speaker 2: over the refereete. Seen enough, Joe Smith didn't make it

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Speaker 2: outside of two rounds at Gribby from Wrong BC. Before

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Speaker 2: this contest, he'd never even been knocked down, and the

493
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Speaker 2: Terebyev went right through him like a buzzsaw. What is

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Speaker 2: your reaction?

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Speaker 1: It's not that we didn't think the ability levels between

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Speaker 1: these two was wide. We did. But Luke, we have

497
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Speaker 1: to understand Forturbeev's thirty seven. Despite that colossy record of

498
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Speaker 1: all knockouts, last couple of fights, dude, you know, long layoffs,

499
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Speaker 1: he just didn't look like the killer anymore. Dude, the

500
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Speaker 1: Killer's back, and I think he's back because of the

501
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: level of competition was an upgrade here. It was a

502
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Speaker 1: unification about Joe Smith Junior, despite being originally like a

503
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Speaker 1: you know, union worker turned fighter, he's legitimate. Now his

504
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 1: defense isn't bad. Yeah, he's a little awkward, but he's

505
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Speaker 1: got a big right hand. Luke, we've seen him box

506
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Speaker 1: rounds against better boxers and hang in there, dude, he

507
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Speaker 1: had nothing for a wired, fired up, ready to go

508
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Speaker 1: baturvif Luke. I don't know how long this window at

509
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Speaker 1: thirty seven is gonna last, but he really is back

510
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Speaker 1: in full on destroyer mode. I didn't do it forty

511
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Speaker 1: nine times, right, because it's a big joke, right, ha ha,

512
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Speaker 1: there we go. But I did rewatch this a bunch

513
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Speaker 1: of times this morning, the round and a half that

514
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Speaker 1: they gave us. Dude, did you see the variety of

515
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Speaker 1: better beab who Look the last two fights, he wasn't

516
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Speaker 1: walking down and chasing people. He was more waiting for

517
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Speaker 1: them to come to him. I think he looked at

518
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Speaker 1: the strategy here, saw Joe Smith, big right hand, but

519
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,399
Speaker 1: technically there's still some flaws. He's still that union worker

520
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 1: turned pro fighter, right. I think he said, look the

521
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: best way I'm gonna exploit those flaws is to get

522
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Speaker 1: him into a fight, and I've just got better technique

523
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Speaker 1: and more variety. Look, when I say variety, I don't

524
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Speaker 1: just mean the ability to switch from a jab to

525
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Speaker 1: an uppercut to a hook to a body shot at

526
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Speaker 1: any meaning. Each one of those punches he almost has

527
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Speaker 1: three to four different types, like a change up, a curve,

528
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Speaker 1: a looping one. There's times where he comes with that

529
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Speaker 1: right cross for the kill shot. There's other times where

530
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Speaker 1: he loops it. When he landed that first knockdown on

531
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Speaker 1: the top of Joe Smith's head. He was constantly throwing

532
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Speaker 1: different speeds, different angles, side arms for a destroyer to

533
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Speaker 1: almost become straight on with you, walk you down to

534
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Speaker 1: the ropes, have the defensive responsibility, yet still throw that

535
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: much variety in a short space. Luke, when he's this

536
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: dialed in, you know he would fuck Canelo up. Yeah yeah,

537
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: all right, Like let understand that, Okay, not the guy

538
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Speaker 1: from two fights ago, the guy who came back from

539
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Speaker 1: a one or two year layoff, whatever it was, This

540
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: dialed in version of better beav Nah dude, nah, Luke,

541
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Speaker 1: he may even do bad things to Bevall and obviously

542
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Speaker 1: Dmitri beval who just beat Canelo. That's the fight we

543
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Speaker 1: need now for all four belts undisputed. The problem in

544
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Speaker 1: boxing is Anthony Yard has the mandatory now for Better

545
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: beav They just made a deal for that fight. It's

546
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Speaker 1: gonna come later this year. Yard's a British slugger, Luke,

547
00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:43,480
Speaker 1: but not much more. Remember Sergey kov Lev going life

548
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 1: for death to edge him out to get the Canelo fight.

549
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: We're not gonna learn a lot there, but the quicker

550
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Speaker 1: we can get into a Dmitri beval Ar to Better

551
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 1: Beef fight for all four belts, two unbeaten guys. We

552
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 1: know Bevall's the crafty Q puncher, but Better beats the

553
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: absolute destroyer. Luke. Seriously rewatch that tape of how he

554
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Speaker 1: set those shots up. This dude's next level.

555
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Speaker 2: He's the next level. And then the interesting part was

556
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Speaker 2: I would actually I ninety percent agree with you. I

557
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 2: would ten percent disagree with you, but like only to

558
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,879
Speaker 2: compliment the point, which is to say the following. There

559
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: were two times he dropped Smith, and one was in

560
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 2: the first, one was in the second, or rocked him

561
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Speaker 2: or the referee intervened where he actually backed up on purpose,

562
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Speaker 2: so he was walking him down and then just drilling him.

563
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 2: But there were a couple times where he let Smith

564
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Speaker 2: come to him and still dropped his ass. What do

565
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: we say about pitchers in baseball when they can, to

566
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: your point, when they have a change up in a

567
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,160
Speaker 2: curve and a slider and a breaking ball, we said

568
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Speaker 2: that they have good stuff. Dude, better Beef just has

569
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Speaker 2: good stuff. He has so many tools to go to

570
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 2: so many ranges. Because this is the point, like, oh,

571
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 2: well he fights at long range, Joe Smith can crack him. Well,

572
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Speaker 2: he never let Joe Smith really ever do that by

573
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Speaker 2: virtue of some of the ways in which he was

574
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Speaker 2: inviting pressure or then delivering it, and then all the

575
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Speaker 2: different trajectories, all the different openings they interviewed him. Did

576
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Speaker 2: you see the interview afterwards? And they asked him like,

577
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Speaker 2: you know, what was the strategy here? And he was

578
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,080
Speaker 2: like he didn't want to insult the guy, but he

579
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:05,919
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, he was really open, so I just

580
00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: looked for the opening. He's like, dude, he just saw

581
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: all the various windows that had been slit open and

582
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 2: was just finding all different ways to get in there. Dude,

583
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Speaker 2: Joe Smith was completely overmatched. That was a meeting.

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Speaker 1: If you're new to better beef. I mean, when he

585
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Speaker 1: follow Alexander Vodsik to unified titles, they were both un

586
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Speaker 1: beating those about three fights ago, dude, he sent Vodsig

587
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Speaker 1: into retirement, Luke, and that was a guy who was

588
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Speaker 1: in his prime, almost knocking on like pound for pound attention,

589
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Speaker 1: you know, and he just absolutely wore him down and

590
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Speaker 1: took care of him. The fact that he saw, like

591
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Speaker 1: you said, an avenue to make this a quick outing

592
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Speaker 1: against Joe Smith because that technique, you know, was a

593
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: wide gap between them. Damn, dude, damn. So look, I

594
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: don't know if I've ever seen a guy who's this

595
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Speaker 1: old yet his eighteen and O with eighteen first round

596
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Speaker 1: KOs and even though he's got like, you know, three,

597
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: four or five really good wins, there still kind of

598
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: under exposed. It's gonna be fun to see how long

599
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 1: he can carry this on because big fights away Bevall,

600
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 1: maybe Canelo. I mean, this is gonna be fun to see.

601
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: But when you watch him from footwork to set up, dude,

602
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,960
Speaker 1: he's just different. And that's that's the shout out to

603
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 1: Mark Ramsey's trainer. He's got Russ amber on Coutts, he's

604
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: got iceman John Scully from Connecticut as his chief second.

605
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 1: They know what the hell they're doing there. This guy

606
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: is damn still got it, still got it.

607
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: Still got it, one hundred percent finishing record among champions.

608
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 2: It's pretty fucking special. So and that was a unification too.

609
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: He has three of the four belts, Bivel has the

610
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 2: other one. I mean, it's not like he was fighting

611
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: a chump. He just made the guy look like a

612
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 2: completely lower level. So amazing for him. All Right, we see,

613
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 2: let's turn the page here if we can. What a

614
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 2: weekend of fights we have coming up now, a UFC

615
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: pay per view that'll be the following Saturday, but quality

616
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Speaker 2: fights just the same. UFC Austin was phenomenal, and UFC

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Speaker 2: on ESPN thirty eight or Vegas fifty seven, whichever number

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00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: it is at this point, is also very very good.

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Speaker 2: I want to go through this, but very quickly. We

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Speaker 2: start with the main event. Armins are uki In taking

621
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 2: on Mattaeus Gamrod. Now BC they're ranked eleven and twelve respectively,

622
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 2: Armin at eleventh, Gamrot at twelve. You would imagine that

623
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,159
Speaker 2: the winner here moves into the top ten. But the

624
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: thing that I love about this fight the most is

625
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 2: not just that they are very good and very exciting.

626
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: And I know a lot of folks don't like it

627
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 2: for this reason, but I actually really like it when

628
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: young contenders have to face off against one another to

629
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Speaker 2: see who's really coming or going, because to me, the

630
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: one who loses is not gone forever. They can rally

631
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: and have a second or third effort in their careers

632
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Speaker 2: and then get to the same kind of point we've

633
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 2: seen it in a number of times. But this is

634
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Speaker 2: going to be a big decider into very promising careers

635
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: about who is going to be potentially maybe a title

636
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 2: contender in the future, but someone who's really going to

637
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: be entering that elite space, that top ten space. I

638
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: think arminsar yuki In is one of the best up

639
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 2: and comers in all of MMA. Do you agree with

640
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: my assessment that this is more than just about rankings,

641
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 2: This is a bit of a fork in the road

642
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: at least for this juncture in their career.

643
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I love this type of match making. It's hungry, aggressive.

644
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: We have two guys that one could be the future.

645
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: Let's find out right, it's Ryan Bader versus John Jones

646
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: back when they were both you know, largely untested up

647
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: to that point. Let's find it out right the hell now.

648
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: But Luke, I think something that I've said up before,

649
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: I'll say it once more. Right, knew you would make

650
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: me feel so good? Want to do you? Right? I mean, look,

651
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: that's the best three eleven sog it really is, right.

652
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 1: I don't you know, people forget you've never heard their

653
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: first record, you know. All right back to this, Luke

654
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: was set up before about this lightweight division two years ago.

655
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: I thought historically deep and even though now it's been

656
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: passed by bantamweight on a global level, but certainly within

657
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: the UFC for depth, star power, et cetera. Dude, it

658
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 1: is transitioning very nicely from the older guard, the Fergusons,

659
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: the Mcgregor'syn Poorier, even you know RDA, who are sort

660
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: of slowly starting to transition out. Now we've got Islam

661
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: Maha Chev Brad Riddell and really both of these guys,

662
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: including the winner, who's going to launch into the top ten.

663
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, it's among the the least like household

664
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: name sexy fight Night main events. But It's sort of

665
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: one of those where I think you're guaranteed to see

666
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: two hammers try to figure out which one is actually

667
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 1: the nail underneath it? Luke, how do you even not

668
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: break it down? Nexts and O's. But like, if I

669
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: knew nothing about these two, what should I be looking

670
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: for in this one?

671
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 2: I think this is going to be a real question

672
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,880
Speaker 2: of who And we'll talk more about this on Friday,

673
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: But as a basic overview, both are very exceptional wrestlers.

674
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 2: I mean, both can do a lot of it now,

675
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: but I really wonder who is going to dictate the

676
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 2: wrestling battle, Which is to say, this is not meaning, oh,

677
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: whoever gets the takedown, and that's not what I'm saying.

678
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is who is the dominant wrestler in

679
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: the sense of when I want to take you down,

680
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 2: I can, and when I want to defend I can.

681
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 2: Because both guys have very good offensive takedowns. Potato's Gamrot

682
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,720
Speaker 2: lost to Guram Kute de Lazze, who fought over the weekend,

683
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 2: in part because Kute de Lazzi did get taken down

684
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: a lot, but was fighting a lot off of his back.

685
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: That's not really Sar Yukin's game that we scene, So

686
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a much more a bigger question of

687
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 2: who can either establish the takedown, defend it, or immediately

688
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: win scrambles. And then if that's the case, obviously there's

689
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: gonna be a question of who can win on the feet.

690
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: But they're very evenly matched. They have a lot of

691
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 2: the same skill sets. The question is going to be

692
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: who gets to put their thumb on the scale when

693
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 2: it comes to having the better wrestling either defensively or offensively,

694
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: to decide how that fight's going to go within that dimension.

695
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: Luke, does the winner of this, you know, I like

696
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: to talk. I don't have my hammer with me right now,

697
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,560
Speaker 1: my Russian hammer, Luke. And by the way, when we're

698
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: talking about Butterbev from Daugistan, although he lives in fights

699
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 1: out of Montreal these days. But when we're talking about

700
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: that list across mixed martial arts, you know it includes military,

701
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 1: includes PFL. The hammers are coming on. Does the winner

702
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: of this get added to that list of you know,

703
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: Eastern European based hammers who seem to be ready to

704
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: take over the sport.

705
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean sar yuki In is Armenian, Russian, So

706
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 2: you know these are these are these are we kind

707
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 2: of group them all as like, oh therese are just

708
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: tough dudes from mountainous regions who speak Slavic languages, but

709
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,560
Speaker 2: there are meaningful differences between them. But yes, to your point,

710
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: these are like it's interesting, right, like Georgia Iran, we

711
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 2: won't have many Iranians, but like Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan obviously parts

712
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: of Dakasan and whatnot, that whole region there you get

713
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 2: different religions, different people's, different languages, but they're all kind

714
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 2: of good at like wrestling, Olympic weightlifting, These real kind

715
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 2: of like masculine sports. There'd be no good reason why

716
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: they wouldn't equally be adept at these kinds of sports

717
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 2: as well. And so I just you're beginning to see

718
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: that flow from yes, very similar parts of the world,

719
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: but meaningfully different in many ways too. I just think

720
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: it's an inevitability that you know you're going to see

721
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: this and then more I think Gamrock's Polish though of

722
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: memory serves right. So it's a little bit different. But

723
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 2: but yeah, certainly our sar Yuking would be part of

724
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: that larger ilk I think of what you see. You

725
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: see a lot of those thing guys good in boxing

726
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: as well. Dude, Yeah, Kirchinian and all the Armenian crews.

727
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 2: Armenian is thirty.

728
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: One from Poland. I was unaware of that, but it

729
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: still fits the larger territory there in Europe of what's

730
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: going on. But Luke, you know, particularly Saryukian, dude five

731
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: in a row since that loss to Mahachev in a

732
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: similar type of matchmaking, although much early to this one.

733
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: But look, he kind of looks like you now that

734
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: you're in shape. You guys do resemble each other. I mean,

735
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: is that Armenian power, right? You look very Armenian today,

736
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. And I say that as a compliment.

737
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 2: Look is I don't know that. I take it as one. Also,

738
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: I look more like Saryukian's hers sue to uncle that

739
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 2: I do his twin. But yeah, he's he's an incredible shape.

740
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 2: This is going to be a hell of a fight.

741
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 2: But speaking of guys from that region, BC, whether you

742
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: like the main event or not the co main event,

743
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: I don't know how you can't. Neil Magni, by the way,

744
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 2: give Neil Magni credit. This guy has been asking for

745
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: the smoke from what's his face bores?

746
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,840
Speaker 1: What's his name, Hamzah.

747
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 2: Yes, Jamiav. He's been asking to fight SHAMAIV, He's been

748
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 2: asking to fight Hammers. Well, careful what you wish for,

749
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 2: because he got one. Neil Magnie is going to take

750
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: on Shovcot Rockmanov in what is easily, easily easily the

751
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: biggest test of Rockmanov's career because he has looked and

752
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 2: you would agree, bec he has looked very, very good.

753
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 2: But he's not fought anybody this experienced, anybody this talented,

754
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: anybody who's got an interesting frame in the way that

755
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 2: Magni does. What a fight in either direction? What a

756
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 2: win it would be in either direction?

757
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And on top of that, this isn't a Magni

758
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: who has only made his name on being the guy

759
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: who fights the people that no one wants to. He's

760
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: won five of six coming in here, Luke, and that

761
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: only lost a decision that went the wrong way against Kisa,

762
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 1: and he was, you know, competitive like he always is

763
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,840
Speaker 1: in all of these fights. Thirty one years old, you

764
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 1: could argue is putting together the best sort of run

765
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 1: you know that we've seen up to this point. But look,

766
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: I have no you know, misgivings here. If if an

767
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 1: alien would walk off a ship tomorrow and put on

768
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: a single it and no one wants to fight him,

769
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: Neil Magne's gonna fight that alien, Luke. So he's he

770
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: is that dude, he's that difficult out. He's got that cardio.

771
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: But damn, we're gonna find out right now how good

772
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: your boy Choff cut Rockmanoff is And damn has he

773
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: looked really good? In fact, Luke, that list of hammers

774
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 1: that we're talking about. I mean, you know you can't

775
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: put him above you know, Maha Chev right now. But

776
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: he's pretty damn high up there, Luke. I mean, he's

777
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: coming the hell on, Luke. He looks to be good.

778
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: This is that durable, not easy to contend with type

779
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: of opponent. Well, we're really gonna find out what Shavcott's

780
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: plan BCD are because you know Neil Magne makes you

781
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: do that. So yeah, this, Luke, this this could be

782
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 1: the main event. It could it could be, dude.

783
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 2: I'm telling you now, Like the people who are around

784
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: Scheff got rock Monov, they've all privately reached out to

785
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,959
Speaker 2: me about it, and they all say that, like he

786
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 2: is as good as anyone in the gym, and usually

787
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 2: the best by far, and he's only shown a small

788
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: smidge of what he's capable of. Now again, Neil Magni

789
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 2: is no one's pushover. This is a very difficult test.

790
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 2: Funnily enough, Caesar's has Rockmanov. I mean, even I am

791
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 2: surprised by this, and I'm very high on Rockmanov. They

792
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 2: have Schofcott. Rockmanov has a minus four hundred favorite in

793
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: this contest. Little high for me if you're asking, but

794
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: just the same. We all talk about Chamaiev and what

795
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: he's done, and he's just exploded through the ranks, had

796
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 2: a bit of a come to earth moment against Gilbert Burns,

797
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: but still got the job done, fighting very undisciplined, but

798
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: still getting his hand raised. Rockmanov is taking a much

799
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: different approach, much slower, steadier kind of I'm going to

800
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: build the quote unquote right way to get there. I'm

801
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 2: telling you, we'll see what happens on Saturday. But if

802
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 2: he makes not short work, but if he really shines

803
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: against Magni, it's not just that there's a meeting between Schofcott,

804
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 2: Rockmanov and Chimayev headed down the line. It's that Rockmanov

805
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: might have actually been the guy who, because of his

806
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 2: development process, gets to the point where he needs to

807
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 2: be in the right way, even though he got there

808
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: a little bit slower versus something to think about.

809
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, good news for the Walterway division if that happens.

810
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, if he systematically breaks down Magne like

811
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: the way you're sort of in in you know, teasing here,

812
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: that that's a statement. So that's that's gonna be worth watching.

813
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,919
Speaker 1: Just the same. What what if that guest take looks

814
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: a little uh, looks a little pulled on? Come late

815
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: round three. This is in play here against Magni, so

816
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: we'll see what happens. Luke, I can't help but look

817
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: up and down this card and see Flyway JP bays

818
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: back on after you know, the very public breakup there

819
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: with Cheyennev Listmas big win for Roman de LEDs on Saturday.

820
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: Just the same if you want to link the conversation together,

821
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: but uh, you're not into the idea of a catchweight

822
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: out between them for the for you know, for like

823
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: talk about the money in the bank briefcase there, Luke

824
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 1: for the winner.

825
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 2: No nothing, okay. Also on this card.

826
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: I guess I'm alone. I guess I'm alone on this Luke.

827
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean. You are certainly alone. There

828
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: are other good fights on the card. The JPBAS fight

829
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 2: Cody Durdins is a fine fight, but I would also

830
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 2: point out BC on this one. Chris Curtis taken on

831
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 2: judelfo Vieira. Vieira kind of needs to figure out if

832
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 2: he's gonna do something at this level or not. Obviously

833
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: he can beat some people, but like, are you really

834
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 2: going to rise to the Are you gonna be a Jacquaraye?

835
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: Are you gonna be a Hoddra Gracie when it comes

836
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 2: to MMA? We haven't quite figured that out yet. Also,

837
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 2: Nate Manesse, a phenomenal grappler, taken on Umar Number made Off.

838
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: He's the biggest favorite on the card. Number Goat made

839
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: off at a minus nine hundred over Nate Manesse. That

840
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: is you don't usually see that in the UFC too often,

841
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,320
Speaker 2: But well.

842
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: Can I give you my BC super sloppy special of

843
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: the week on this card?

844
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 2: Look, let me cass it involves the women because you're

845
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,359
Speaker 2: a horn dog or what not?

846
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: True Luke not true. First of all, shout out to

847
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: Brian Boomkell, her friend of the program and the extended

848
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: MMA beat family, who is back against Mario Bautista at Bantamwait,

849
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: but look the opener women strawweight Vanessa Demopolis, who Luke

850
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 1: made a lot of headlines with the pole dancing training

851
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 1: in the background for her last big win, jumping in

852
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: DC's or Rogan's arms. Excuse me, you know, even though

853
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: he was dressed like a bus boy at a at

854
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: a restaurant taking on Ginu Fry here, who's riding a

855
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: two fight win stream. Look, both Fries thirty seven, both

856
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: need a big win here. But this Demopolis hype train

857
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,760
Speaker 1: that she's you know, you know, pour the coal herself

858
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,839
Speaker 1: to get this thing going. Let's see if she continue it. Look,

859
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: you don't like these undercard like freak shows would be

860
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:23,320
Speaker 1: a very not not correct at all. These are professional

861
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: fighters climbing the rankings, no question about it. But when

862
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: somebody uses sort of the outside the cage, like the

863
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: post fight interview to become like, oh crap, I kind

864
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: of need to see them more. You can't deny me

865
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: that Demopolis has become that. Am I right?

866
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: Luke, not in my world. I mean, I certainly respect

867
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: her as a fighter. I don't mean to suggest that

868
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: she hasn't done that yet. But I am not scrolling.

869
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,360
Speaker 2: I don't have your Instagram feed, so I couldn't speak.

870
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: To you not it's not even like remotely about that.

871
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: I guess that that's that's low fruit for you. It's

872
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: a it's a it's an easy fallback. It's an assumption,

873
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 1: and most of.

874
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: Our audience has hard it's a it's a it's a

875
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 2: fight that matters. It certainly matters for their careers in

876
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 2: the way that you say it, I certainly agree, but

877
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: it's literally opening the card. I don't want to overstate

878
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: its significance either, Okay, okay.

879
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:08,959
Speaker 1: All I know, Luke is this is the same week

880
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: that we're getting the rematch between Britten Beltran and Beck

881
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,719
Speaker 1: Rawlings on BKFC. So look, I get into personalities, Luke,

882
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of personalities behind these fights. So

883
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: there you go, all right.

884
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 2: By the way, also, is he's guy the City Kickboxing

885
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: Carlos Olberg taking on and I'm gonna mispronounce it, so

886
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: please forgive me. Tifan and Chukwi, I think how you

887
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 2: say it. Tifan is actually from this area, Camp Springs, Maryland.

888
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: He trains over at Team Lloyd Irvin. He's looked really

889
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: good that he's been phenomenally heavy puncher. He's got overall

890
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: well rounded skills. It's an interesting test. I think if

891
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 2: he can find Olberg's chin, who is quite hittable, it's winnable.

892
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 2: But they do have Olberg as a slight favorite minus

893
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 2: one twenty two plus one hundred. Another one to keep

894
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: an eye on. Also Halley and Piva, taket On Serageame

895
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: Morozov and some other ones there as well.

896
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: Which Carlos Olberg is the best looking mail fighter in

897
00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: MMA today. Look would you say that?

898
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,720
Speaker 2: Oh by a country mile? Right there you go.

899
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: He's got that going for him. We'll see if he

900
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:05,680
Speaker 1: can continue.

901
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: He is handsome. I mean, no one's ever accused him

902
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: of being ugly. I can certainly attest to that.

903
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 1: B C.

904
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: I will say this, Beltor's got a card Friday night

905
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 2: on showtime from the Mohegan Sun. I believe they will

906
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: kick off at nine pm in the east. Dude, this

907
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 2: is a good card from Beltore and we always say it.

908
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 2: If the cards are good, we're gonna say it. If

909
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: the cards are bad, We're gonna say it. This is

910
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 2: a good one. There's a few fights to watch. Let's

911
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: start with that main event here very quickly. If we

912
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: can Geyguard Musasi taken on Johnny Eblin, now b s,

913
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: let's revisit this. I thought Austin I had a hipster

914
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: pick and it exploded in my face, like Elmer Fudd

915
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: holding the bomb or something that bugs Bunny gave to him.

916
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: Fair enough. I just want to point out something here.

917
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: One the odds makers agree with me a little bit

918
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,279
Speaker 2: that this fight deserves to be treated as a little

919
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 2: bit more serious than I think Musasi's online fans would

920
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 2: like you to believe. They have Eblin as a underdog

921
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,560
Speaker 2: plus two ten. Musasi has a minus two sixty. But

922
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 2: this is not some minus four hundred minus five hundred fight.

923
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,640
Speaker 2: Eblin is undefeated. He wrestled at the Universe of Missouri

924
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,080
Speaker 2: alongside not at the same time, but from the same

925
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: program as Ben Asker and Michael Chandler, Tyrone Woodley mark

926
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: ellis right. He comes from a sort of a lineage

927
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: there of good guys. He was a national Division one

928
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 2: qualifier for the tournament in his senior year, he'd had

929
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 2: done some great things. He is undefeated. He beat up

930
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 2: John Salter relatively easily to get to this point. Now,

931
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 2: has he fought anybody like Musase? Not even close. No,

932
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,360
Speaker 2: he has not, But I will tell you, dude, undefeated,

933
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: full of confidence. His corner is like King Mo, Dustin Poirier,

934
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,720
Speaker 2: like it's a fucking All Star, Mike Brown, it's a lineup.

935
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 2: How much of a threat do you perceive Johnny Eblin

936
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: to be to Musase's title.

937
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: In theory A decent one, because I do think of

938
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: these of some of these guys, You're like, you know,

939
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: I've seen him, but as he won me over yet,

940
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: I think Eblin's better than that. I think he's got

941
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 1: plus sides to him, his motor, his wrestling ability, his

942
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: intention to score damage when it's top position. But Luke, dude,

943
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: this version of the thirty six year old Musac, like

944
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: you've openly said, you kind of missed it, you kind

945
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,280
Speaker 1: of had questions. Dude, he's twelve and one since twenty fifteen, Okay,

946
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: and you know that list of guys he's beat is.

947
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna pull Luke Thomas and go up

948
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: and down the wiki. But it's like, you know, Maheta Santos,

949
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: Vitor Belfort, You're Riyah Hall, Chris Widman, Alexander Slimenko, Rafael Carvallo, Luke,

950
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 1: Rory MacDonald, Liota Machida, Doug Lima, like Salter Vanderford, like

951
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: he has been on a terror and I think it's

952
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: because of the late thirties efficiency that he sort of

953
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: found himself in right now, uses his wrestling in very

954
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 1: credible ways when needing to offensively, but just distance, I mean,

955
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: just you know, he's always been a very accurate striker.

956
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,799
Speaker 1: He's just a he's just operating on all cylinders right now.

957
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 1: And you know, Luke, I loved that speech he gave

958
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: after dominating Austin Vanderford about you know, for the first time,

959
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: I like life. I feel like I'm the best in

960
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 1: the world. I fear it's going to be too much,

961
00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: even for a guy like Eplin, who for a contender

962
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: comparative to guys like Salter and Vanderford. I think he's

963
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: got another gear. I think he's gonna make this a

964
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: close fight. But I still think this is no question.

965
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,200
Speaker 1: Musase's fight to to, you know, survive in advance and

966
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: show us what he's got. Look, do you have any

967
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: reasoning why Musase doesn't get talked about for going twelve

968
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: and one in the last seven years against pretty damn

969
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 1: great names across the board.

970
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 2: Two reasons. One you could argue he should be eleven

971
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 2: and two because I thought Schlamenko deserved that win. Yeah,

972
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: I thought Schlameiko beat him. Uh but okay, that aside.

973
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 2: That aside, and that was his first belt or I

974
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 2: think his first or second beltoor fight. He was still

975
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 2: getting the jitters out, So whatever that aside. You're right,

976
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: he has gone on an incredible run. I'm not exactly

977
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: sure why it's gone somewhat unnoticed and even by people

978
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 2: like me who are forced to pay attention to it

979
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: and have to, and I kind of put it to

980
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: the side. One reason might be that, like you know,

981
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: McDonald and Lima were naturally undersized. That's something that right,

982
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 2: And who is Austin Vanderford in the sense of like

983
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: what has he done? Right? He's did good things, but

984
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: he never thought like anybody like musas so he was

985
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 2: kind of overmatched in that way that we certainly found

986
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 2: I certainly found out the hard way after the fact.

987
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: Beyond that, I'm not entirely sure, but I agree with you.

988
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 2: Like his run of late, he has really come alive.

989
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 2: He's put all the pieces of his game together. The

990
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: only reason why I think I'm not gonna say that

991
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 2: people need to be like, oh, Johnny Evil's gonna be

992
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 2: the new champion, But certainly it's possible. But I'm not

993
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 2: gonna go here and declare it to you like as

994
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: an inevitability. But I would ask for people to take

995
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,640
Speaker 2: Johnny Eblin seriously. And the reason why I say that

996
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 2: is again, undefeated, young guy, blah blah blah. But he's

997
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 2: just got really, really really not just good takedowns. He's

998
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: got strong control. Now, he doesn't have the passing or

999
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: the positional dominance that Levato Junior had to beat Musase.

1000
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: That part is lacking, and we'll see how much ground

1001
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: and pound he actually is able to employ on a

1002
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: scrambling Musase. But I do think he's going to be

1003
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: the stronger guy. He is going to be the far

1004
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 2: better wrestler. He's also going to get hit a lot more,

1005
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 2: which is going to change the equation too. But the

1006
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 2: reason why I think he's a threat and why the

1007
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 2: odds are not close but closer than you might imagine

1008
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: them to be. Is because this dude has suff a

1009
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 2: case control on the ground. He's very good, as you

1010
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: can see here. He's got good sub defense, He's relentless.

1011
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 2: He's a threat. I don't know how much of a

1012
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 2: threat we're gonna see, but if this is I'll say

1013
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 2: it this way. If Musase is dialed in, there shouldn't

1014
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 2: be a reason that he loses over the course of

1015
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: five rounds. But if he doesn't take Eblin seriously, he

1016
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: is an upset threat here. And I do think that

1017
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: deserves to be mentioned.

1018
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no doubt. It's not that. It's not as

1019
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: if this version of Musase isn't, you know, potentially able

1020
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 1: to be outworked or whatever. But eblin'sni have to raise

1021
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: his game to get there. And I do want to

1022
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,359
Speaker 1: double back. You mentioned, you know, the consecutive wins over

1023
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 1: Lima or not consecutive, but Lima and McDonald, who are

1024
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: smaller guys coming up. That does package in the same

1025
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: four fight stretch in which uh Gegar lost the title

1026
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 1: to Levato by majority decision and then bounce back by

1027
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: beating an old Macheetah by split decision. So I could

1028
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: understand during that stretch. It didn't look now something during

1029
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 1: that stretch, Luke, you know ReLit the fire, Yeah, and

1030
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: you are certainly seeing the benefits of that. But but

1031
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: look this this card is very good because I'm so

1032
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: excited about what's going on in the Grand Prix, but

1033
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: this main event, don't sleep on it. This is gonna

1034
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: be fun to see whether we've got another you know,

1035
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: uh uh, who's the welterweight champion that just kind of

1036
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: came on and started coming on so much as I

1037
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: can't even remember his name in real time, Logan Storley.

1038
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 2: No, the welterweight champion Amon.

1039
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, Amason, you know yourslof Amasloft just kept just kept

1040
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,440
Speaker 1: escalating to another level each fight. Evelyn has got a

1041
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: little bit of that going for him, Luke, where I

1042
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,799
Speaker 1: would not, to your point, be be blown away if

1043
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: he stepped up, because sometimes it just takes getting to

1044
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: that next level and to raise your own game to

1045
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 1: match it, which is why I think better beeve looked

1046
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: so great against Joe Smith and boxing last weekend, and

1047
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: I think you're going to see that here, Luke. So wow,

1048
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 1: by the way, when you interviewed Danny Sabtello, did you

1049
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: did that energy, feel or taste anything like what you

1050
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: get from me on this show three days a week.

1051
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 2: That was that was like if I could make a

1052
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: fast food comparison, that was like five guys, and you're

1053
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: more like Arby's. You know what I'm saying.

1054
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: You're like, I mean, the Jamocha shake is so underrated

1055
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: that I'll take that comparison. But it doesn't make any sense,

1056
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: thank you.

1057
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 2: It doesn't make any sense at all. Speaking of Danny Sabatelo,

1058
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 2: So the bantamweight Grand Prix continues. This is one of

1059
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 2: the great things I think Belatoor is doing, and you

1060
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 2: pointed it out. Be See, the bantamway division isn't just

1061
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 2: good in UFC. It's good in a lot of places,

1062
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 2: including but not limited to Bellatore. Danny Sabtelo, who was

1063
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 2: a like he had to fight into the tournament to win,

1064
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 2: which he did fucking easily, now takes on Leandro Ego,

1065
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 2: who is much more experienced. This was so funny. I

1066
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,799
Speaker 2: told you yesterday. I asked him, like, Hey, what'd you

1067
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: like about what did you make of Leandre Ego? He's like, hey,

1068
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 2: fucking sucks, Like he just went on and on one.

1069
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 2: I think he's a dynamic personality and Belatore could use

1070
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: a lot of those two. Dude, do not lose sight

1071
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 2: of the fact this guy was I think a Division

1072
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 2: IE national qualifier for three years at Purdue. He can

1073
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 2: wrestle his off, he has all the confidence in the world.

1074
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,440
Speaker 2: He's a very good athlete. BC, he can scramble, he's quick.

1075
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 2: He also has all those guys from att in his corner.

1076
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: That's where he went. He went on his own to

1077
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 2: go down there. He's a very interesting guy and BC.

1078
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 2: I normally would never say this, but you know everyone

1079
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 2: because everyone wants the tournament to have the Daniel Cormier

1080
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 2: story where Cormier came out of the Headway grandpri and

1081
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 2: just fucking bulldozed everybody. And every time someone else is

1082
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 2: an alternate and tournament, they're like, could he be the

1083
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 2: next Daniel Cormier? And the answer is no, there's one

1084
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 2: Daniel Cormier. I will say this, Danny Sabtello is a

1085
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: threat to win this entire tournament. And listen to the

1086
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 2: odds on this. He is favored by our friends over

1087
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: at Caesars as a minus six twenty five over Leandro

1088
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: Ego at plus four point fifty, who has vastly more

1089
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: experienced size this one up for me.

1090
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, nice, Julius and Gleischicez subtweet there, Luke, You're like,

1091
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 1: I know, Julius, he's no about Actually no not.

1092
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 2: It is subtweeterish, but I didn't mean it that way.

1093
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, you know Sabatello, aside from his upper bound

1094
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: limits to steal Luke Thomas Fras, you have to see

1095
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 1: what he's gonna do next. I'm sorry the way, the

1096
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: swagger that he carries and he I thought he said

1097
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: it great and again. Go to YouTube dot com slash

1098
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: Morning Combat to see Luke's entire twenty plus minute interview

1099
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 1: with Sabatello. But look, you know, he's shit on the

1100
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: Henry Shudos of the world for being a little too

1101
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,759
Speaker 1: cringe and calculated while praising the Jail Sun and Connor

1102
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: McGregor's and basically saying this is who I am. It's

1103
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: not an act. It's exactly how I get myself fired up.

1104
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: I hate the guy I'm going against. I want to

1105
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: kill him. And if you don't like it, fuck you, dude.

1106
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: There is already a musty quality and just seeing if

1107
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: he can carry this stick, and he's saying it's not

1108
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: a stick. Up to this point, it's hard to disagree

1109
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: with that if he can back it up, and in

1110
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: the way that you mentioned, he just comes onto the

1111
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 1: scene late replacement. This tournament kind of got flipped upside down.

1112
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: Pettis got hurt, right we saw suddenly he got play

1113
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: in bouts. There's a lot going on here. There was

1114
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: an interim championship on the line. Gucci lost, hoorra, Gucci lost.

1115
00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 1: Yet Sabatello just sneaks right in and easily takes care

1116
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: of the first fight here against Lugo and now calling

1117
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 1: out Leandro Higo. Like you said, it's not just oh

1118
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 1: he fucking sucks. They all suck. It's like the key

1119
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: to his delivery. It's key Luke. He sets it up

1120
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: like he's gonna give you a real detailed answer. He's like,

1121
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 1: you know, I haveter reviewing the tape and really going

1122
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: up and down it. I think the difference between us

1123
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: is he just fucking sucks, but like you know, he

1124
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: actually seems to have at least that high of a motor,

1125
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 1: that strong of a wrestling background and the intention plus

1126
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,440
Speaker 1: swagger I'm not comparing this to McGregor, but one thing

1127
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: about McGregor's run is it creative that word people hate

1128
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,719
Speaker 1: when I say it magic, meaning he was able to

1129
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: elevate himself to performances that we didn't think were possible,

1130
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: right one, punching Joseialdo because the confidence in swagger was

1131
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: a fucking ten out of ten, like every second of

1132
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: the day, right Sabatello has some of that at the

1133
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: very least that I don't know where to put limits

1134
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: on that. I don't think his striking on the feet

1135
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: is next level or anything like that. But if he

1136
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: able to get the fight on his terms, Luke, he

1137
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: may be able to just outwork even elites. Like he

1138
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: has one of those plus motors mixed with that. Would

1139
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: you compare his swagger plus wrestling to the belatour version

1140
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: of Ben Askrin when he used to ride people from

1141
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:16,800
Speaker 1: behind and just like drive them into the ground.

1142
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 2: He doesn't have that funk style that Askrin was famous for,

1143
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 2: but like here to this point here where he's got

1144
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 2: risk control and he's like signaling to the crowd to

1145
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,600
Speaker 2: like cheer and stuff like that. He does have a

1146
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 2: little bit of that verve where he just knows he's

1147
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 2: so much better than them in these positions and and

1148
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 2: wants to act out in that kind of a way. Yeah,

1149
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: in that sense, they are quite similar.

1150
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: Now. He goes on a three fight win streak, so

1151
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: he's coming in here in a good stance. Although we've

1152
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: seen him before step up and lose. He got stopped

1153
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,959
Speaker 1: by Aaron Pico. This is gonna be a big test

1154
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: I think for Sabotello. He may, Luke, he may walk

1155
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,400
Speaker 1: through this with the ease that he did in the

1156
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: qualifying rounds, and we may be having you know, the

1157
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: conversation is going to get escalated in terms of his

1158
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: future and you know, would we even like him to

1159
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: win this chancempionship right here in this tournament. But I

1160
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: think this is a good test on paper just the same,

1161
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: even if it ends up going that way. This is

1162
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: the right type of next challenge that I want to

1163
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: see to find out if Sabotello's game is anywhere close

1164
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 1: to his level of confidence. But you know, you know,

1165
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 1: your boy BC loves that eighties wrestling shtike he's got

1166
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: going on, Luke. I don't think it's cringe. I think

1167
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: it's right on the money, right Now it's a you know,

1168
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 1: you got a tiptoe of that line and not get

1169
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,080
Speaker 1: you know. I think he's he's doing it perfectly. His

1170
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: outward business proposal that he's selling you through the camera.

1171
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 1: It's working, dude.

1172
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 2: Also on this card is the other playing match on

1173
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 2: the right side of the bracket, where Enrique Barzola is

1174
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 2: going to take on Magamed Maga Medov. Now, Maga Medov

1175
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: was supposed to be earlier in this tournament, but there

1176
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 2: was Ramadan and I think he may have been injured

1177
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 2: as well, so they had to delay him. He is

1178
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 2: coming off that loss to Ralphie on Statts back in

1179
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:50,959
Speaker 2: August of twenty twenty one, so it's been a while

1180
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 2: since he competed. But here he is against Enrique Barzola.

1181
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,760
Speaker 2: Barzola a highly interesting figure. He does have five losses,

1182
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,080
Speaker 2: but he has really kind of improved of late. And

1183
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 2: of course the one of the losses that he has

1184
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 2: is to Evlov, who was from the UFC. He left

1185
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,640
Speaker 2: UFC himself and went over to Bellator beat Darien Caldwell

1186
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:10,479
Speaker 2: and then had another win after that. Here he takes

1187
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 2: on Magamed Maga Matov. Now, BC, what's interesting about this

1188
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 2: one is. I would have thought the odds would have

1189
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 2: been a little bit further apart. I certainly respect Barzola,

1190
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: and I take his chances of winning quite seriously. Listen

1191
00:54:20,080 --> 00:54:22,719
Speaker 2: to these odds. They've got our friends at Caesars. They

1192
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 2: do have Mega Metov as your favorite, but barely minus

1193
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 2: one sixty two plus one thirty five. Are you surprised

1194
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: by that?

1195
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:32,839
Speaker 1: Very surprised. I'm like, what do we not know about

1196
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: Mega metof? Is there nude picks out there that were unflattering?

1197
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: I mean, what's going on here? Luke? To correct you,

1198
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:39,359
Speaker 1: and I don't think you meant to say it this way.

1199
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: This is not a play about. This is a quarter

1200
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: final matchup in the tournament. Barzola, though you're right, came

1201
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: in through the door of the play in victory last

1202
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 1: time out, just like Sabatello. Either way, Luke, I think

1203
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: Barzola looked like like Sabatla he belonged. But no, I

1204
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: don't give him that same level of chance. And I

1205
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,200
Speaker 1: am intrigued about the basis of why the betting odds

1206
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:01,360
Speaker 1: are like it this way, whether to you know, movement

1207
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 1: in one direction or not, Because Luke, although Maga Medov

1208
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 1: got I guess you could say humbled by stats and

1209
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: that he was beaten in his own strength more or

1210
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 1: less on the ground. He's a dark horse for this

1211
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,479
Speaker 1: tournament no matter who's in it. But now you're telling

1212
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: me Horr Gucci's out, Sergio Pettis out, former champ Wanter.

1213
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: To let it out, dude. If Magomed maga Metov comes

1214
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: in with the type of performance that we all have

1215
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: seen hints of knew was possible despite his loss to stats,

1216
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: in which let's give him credit, he kept trying to

1217
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: figure out how to try to win that fight, Luke,

1218
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: he's in play to win this whole damn thing. You

1219
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 1: better believe that he's got to come back with one

1220
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 1: of those high level performances. But his ability to chain

1221
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,800
Speaker 1: wrestle in that gas tank, he seems to be a special.

1222
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can put him on that

1223
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: hammer list yet, Luke, but he's knocking on the door

1224
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:49,360
Speaker 1: just the same.

1225
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this, I think Maga Madoff is a

1226
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 2: much better wrestler slash grappler much as a stronger word,

1227
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 2: I'll say he's a better wrestler slash grappler. But I

1228
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 2: think Barzola has better experience against better guys. I'll say

1229
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:06,760
Speaker 2: that obviously, he fought Kevin Aguilar, Bobby Moffatt, mosarv loev

1230
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,719
Speaker 2: Hani Yaya right, He's fought in a lot of pretty

1231
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 2: good names. But the other part to me is that

1232
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 2: Barzola is more well rounded. He is more well rounded

1233
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 2: of the two, and so for that reason I am

1234
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 2: curious to see either one of two things. Is Mega

1235
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 2: Madov's grappling differentials so great that he can just rely

1236
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: on that, or is he gonna have to show us

1237
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 2: something a little bit new. Is you're gonna have to

1238
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,120
Speaker 2: start bringing around the other parts of his game, which

1239
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 2: are by no means bad. Please don't misunderstand me, but

1240
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 2: his winning skill set against elite guys is gonna be

1241
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 2: wrestling grappling top position. That kind of a thing. I

1242
00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 2: want to see to what extent, Like, what's the story here?

1243
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 2: Is it back to the same old thing that's good enough?

1244
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:46,760
Speaker 2: Or are we turning the corner into a new dimension

1245
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 2: of the game. Given what happened in the stats fight,

1246
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 2: given some of the time off, very very curious to

1247
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 2: see how this one plays out. For sure.

1248
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: Luke on the flip side for Barzola, here the native

1249
00:56:56,560 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 1: of Peru. I remember feeling like, although he outlasted Darien

1250
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,920
Speaker 1: Caldwell to get the third round TKO, I remember feeling like, okay,

1251
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: but like, did he win that fighter? Did Caldwell lose it?

1252
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: You package that with we've seen him lose in various

1253
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 1: step ups in the past. Do you think that victory

1254
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,920
Speaker 1: and that playing about over Nikita I will not attempt

1255
00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 1: to brutalize his last name, do you think that did

1256
00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: enough to sort of show that that he's not here

1257
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: by accident.

1258
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, Barzola is very, very good, and he's getting

1259
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 2: something of an elevated role due to the changes that

1260
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 2: happened in the Bantamwey Grand Prix. Also, Josh Hill got

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00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 2: kind of passed over even though he was sort of

1262
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: promised to be one of the alternates. But whatever.

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00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:40,360
Speaker 1: Uh.

1264
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know, there's some proving

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00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 2: that has to happen here, I think, not just to advance,

1266
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 2: but to be taken. Like Danny Sebatello's win to get

1267
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 2: this Ego fight was, I mean, it was one. It

1268
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 2: was a one sided beat down. We need to kind

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00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,040
Speaker 2: of see like what Barzola is gonna do against a

1270
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 2: a much more established figure in this Belator bantamweight division.

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00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 2: You know, to take him seriously as a threat. That's

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00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 2: sort of where I'm at. It's like, Okay, you might

1273
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: be able to advance and win, but how seriously do

1274
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 2: we take your chances to win this. I'm not gonna

1275
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,400
Speaker 2: say Sabotelo I favor outright to win the whole thing,

1276
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 2: but I definitely think he is at a bare minimum

1277
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: a dark horse to win it. Barzola, that remains unclear

1278
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 2: to me at the moment.

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00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: I guess that's what I was good This good fights man.

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00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to this. Shout out to Scotti, Cookes

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00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: and company over there at Belatoor. Luke, quickly we mentioned Peru.

1282
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: You know our listener hardcore Lee right trains at Nick

1283
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: Newle's Jim Connecticut Russell at Duke, he sent us those

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00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: Peruvian sauces because his wife is of that of that background, Luke. Yep,

1285
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: He's been on record multiple times saying Luke needs to

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00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 1: understand that Peruvian food is the alpha in South America.

1287
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: It's better than Colombian like by a lot. Luke. Can

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00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 1: you speak to that again?

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00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's right, He's right. No one denies that in

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00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: South America, like no one denies that Peruvian food is

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Speaker 2: by far the best food. There is something to be

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00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 2: said though that like overall, Peruvian cuisine is better. And

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you're aware of this. There's a

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00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: giant Chinese influence in Peruvian food. That's why they have chalfa,

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00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,720
Speaker 2: which is like their version of fried rice. It's amazing

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00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 2: and also they like. One good thing about Peru is

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00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 2: like they also have a lot of good seafood and savices.

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00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,960
Speaker 2: They're famous for it. I will say this though, Peruvian

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00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,960
Speaker 2: food on balance is the best in South America. But

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00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: they don't have the best steak. I've actually found that

1301
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 2: like the red meat in the way in which it's cooked.

1302
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: Like in Argentina, parts of Brazil, including even Colombia as well,

1303
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 2: they have a dish called sobre barriga, which is like

1304
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 2: unbelievable that individual dishes can give Peruvian food a run

1305
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 2: for its money. But on totality, yes, Peruvian food is

1306
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 2: the best by far.

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00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: Look do you have can you speak about Guyana at all?

1308
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 1: You never talk about them.

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00:59:51,080 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: They're much about Guyana. I hate to admit, but I'm

1310
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: woefully ignorant. About it.

1311
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Speaker 1: They like cricket a lot, but shout out to all

1312
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 1: the GUYANESK fans that I know are out there.

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01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 2: Also on this card is the son of what's his face,

1314
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 2: Jeff Brennan. It's Lucas Brennan, who was undefeated. Katzin Ghana

1315
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: was on this car taking on in Victor Champ Pam Sorensen.

1316
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 2: Also Brent primis taking on Alexander Shabili. I'm sure I'm

1317
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 2: mispronouncing his last name. He's another top prospect at one

1318
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:19,680
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty five pounds, So Bajo Masi's on this card.

1319
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 2: Ala Hundro speaking of Columbia, Allejondro Laura is on this

1320
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 2: card and top prospect, keep an eye on him. Cody

1321
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 2: Law undefeated at six and oh he's going to move

1322
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 2: to seven.

1323
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:32,000
Speaker 1: Dude, Cody Law is really good. So that's someone to

1324
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 1: what this e loaded preliminary TV card, which I know

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01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 1: airs live on YouTube right on the showtime in Belaturia

1326
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:41,440
Speaker 1: channels also on Pluto TV, so if you want to

1327
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: check that out. I'm sure one or two of these

1328
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: gets bumped up to the main card by the end

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01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,880
Speaker 1: of it. But Luke anatotally Toko at middleweight. He's taking

1330
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,800
Speaker 1: on Muhammad Abdullah. Dude, he's a grinder Tokov man.

1331
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,720
Speaker 2: Yes, thirty shit huge as his record, he's unbelievable. Also

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01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 2: be c Rat Garbage is on this card, man, Yes,

1333
01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 2: he opens Ratguarb opens the card.

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Speaker 1: Dude, that's mussy tv onto itself. But Sabajo Masi as well. Luke,

1335
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: you mentioned Alijandra Lara, Dude, she needs a very impressive win. Luke,

1336
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: it's going it's going in the wrong direction quick for somebody.

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01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 2: I think with her overall development, she she she had

1338
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 2: some good progress for a while. It's kind of stalled. Yeah,

1339
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think to do something else

1340
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 2: in the sport, it's gonna have to the level is

1341
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: going to have to be raised a little bit.

1342
01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: So I believe she's Colombian, Luke.

1343
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 2: So, yes, she's from Metagene.

1344
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: Best of luck on Friday.

1345
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: We'll see. We'll see. Although she trains out of Mexico,

1346
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 2: she trains out of the same gym as like Grasso

1347
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 2: and al Donna and all that kind of stuff. So

1348
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 2: it's a good gym. We'll see what she can do.

1349
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 2: All right. Topic number three, Now, b C, we've been

1350
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 2: over this a million times, but there actually is a

1351
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: new wrinkle, never seen this one before. So Nate dis

1352
01:01:53,880 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 2: calls to be released from the UFC. That's not new,

1353
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 2: Nate Diz kind of insinuates he wants to fight Jake Paul.

1354
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 2: Not new, here's what is new. You had him tweet

1355
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 2: a video of Jake Paul knocking out tarverin Woodley, saying,

1356
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,919
Speaker 2: UFC released me now please or give me a fight

1357
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 2: with anyone in July or August. I have bigger shit

1358
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 2: to do, Like, why are you bringing this up again?

1359
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 2: The reason why this is interesting BC is one he's

1360
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 2: just openly like advocated before he was kind of hinting

1361
01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 2: at it. Now there's no hints. But the bigger story

1362
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 2: to me was the MacLife asked Dana White about it,

1363
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 2: and Dana White was saying, like he started working with

1364
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 2: different fighters, and his point was, listen, Nate hasn't won

1365
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 2: a fight. He's won one fight in five years or

1366
01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 2: whatever it is. Five fights.

1367
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:37,640
Speaker 1: By the way, I love that he pulls that sword

1368
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: whenever he needs to. Although when he wants to use

1369
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: Nate's brand, He's got no problem put him in a

1370
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:43,080
Speaker 1: big spot when.

1371
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: He wants to use when Na's brand is advantageous to him,

1372
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 2: it's the greatest brand in the world. When it's not,

1373
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 2: it's a fading one. But the bigger story was he

1374
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 2: actually said to the macfe Dana White, UFC President, Yeah,

1375
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:58,080
Speaker 2: Nate Diez probably should fight Jake Paul. That's a fight

1376
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 2: that makes sense. BC. Are you surprised Dana White said

1377
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 2: that out loud?

1378
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am so. It's almost though as surprised as

1379
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: I am. To be fair, it's meaningless unless action is taken.

1380
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: So you need quick action, and I need to know

1381
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: how quick, because we know that Jake Paul has a

1382
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:20,440
Speaker 1: showtime pay per view return date August sixth and Massive

1383
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: Square Garden with no opponent yet, if Dana White really

1384
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: means this, And by the way, if you heard the

1385
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 1: extended interview the question, there were comments as you alluded to,

1386
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: of Dana saying, look, I love Nate Diaz, blah blah blah,

1387
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: worked with him forever. I'm not trying to hold anyone back. Sorry,

1388
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:34,920
Speaker 1: it does look like you've been trying to hold him

1389
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: away from other things. So the action is what is

1390
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: needed on the back end, and the action is one

1391
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 1: of two things, Luke, either outright release him, slash, say

1392
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,680
Speaker 1: go ahead. We're not going to stop you. We're not

1393
01:03:46,680 --> 01:03:48,360
Speaker 1: gonna cut you, but we're not gonna stop you either

1394
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: or the other side is what we didn't think was possible.

1395
01:03:51,960 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: Not possible, but we didn't think was probable. UFC co

1396
01:03:55,600 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: promoting with Nate opposite Jake to try to help it,

1397
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: you know, make even more money and become worthy of

1398
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 1: them being a co promoter. Look, I tend to not

1399
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: think that's gonna happen because UFC doesn't need it. Why

1400
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,200
Speaker 1: would you put Jake Paul in a leverage situation? So

1401
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 1: if it's not that, and I think you would agree

1402
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,360
Speaker 1: with me that it's not that, then take action and

1403
01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,680
Speaker 1: get out of the way. Let him go. Either cut

1404
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: him or say to him go ahead, Because Luke, I

1405
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: think that's what August sixth is what a month and

1406
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,919
Speaker 1: a half away, almost two months. I think Nate would

1407
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 1: take that fight, and I think that'd be a monster event,

1408
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 1: whether UFC wanted to be involved or not. But unless

1409
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: there's action due, these are just words floating in the ethos, Luke,

1410
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 1: like my bad jokes, right, Sometimes I think they're hit

1411
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,520
Speaker 1: and I think they're slaying, Luke, you know, like like

1412
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 1: hey Dallas, yeah, hello, all right, No, not slaying apparently

1413
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 1: Luke so hollow bullshit words. I often say, so, is

1414
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: this Dana quote? Am I wrong?

1415
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 2: Tell me I'm wrong. I don't think you're totally wrong.

1416
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 2: I think you're mostly right. But I will say that

1417
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 2: Dana openly saying I think it makes sense for Nate

1418
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 2: Diaz to fight Jake Paul. That is a new wrinkle

1419
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 2: that is kind of that's sort of like tacitly acknowledging.

1420
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 2: They can't stop it, they can slow it, they can

1421
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,040
Speaker 2: somewhat derail it, and they can make it less of

1422
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 2: what it ordinarily would be, which is what I think

1423
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: they're gonna do. They're gonna try and give Nate something

1424
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:14,920
Speaker 2: he has to accept it, but they're gonna try and

1425
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 2: give Nate some kind of an opponent who they think

1426
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 2: is gonna demolish him so that it would ruin his

1427
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 2: stock or at least damage his stock heading into a

1428
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,280
Speaker 2: Jake Paul fight. But I think the fact that Dana

1429
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:28,600
Speaker 2: is finally openly talking about it kind of represents a

1430
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 2: little bit of the worm turning here. Now Nate forced

1431
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 2: his hand by like openly using the clip of Jake

1432
01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 2: Paul knocking out Tyron Woodley. Where now when if you

1433
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 2: ask Dana, you're a media guy and you stick a

1434
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 2: microphone in his face, you have to be like, hey,

1435
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,480
Speaker 2: did you see Nate Like not even making some weird

1436
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 2: allusion to something. No, no, no, he put the clip right

1437
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 2: in the tweet. You kind of have to ask it.

1438
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 2: They forced his hand a little bit, but saying as

1439
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 2: much that that's a fight that makes sense. It's sort

1440
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 2: of like he has always said, like I don't quite

1441
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 2: you know, the boxing thing as whole is all broken

1442
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 2: in and you know these guys are MMA fighters. Why

1443
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,080
Speaker 2: are they boxing? This is the first time I can

1444
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 2: think of him saying an MMA guy fighting a YouTuber

1445
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 2: is actually a thing that coherently he can like accept

1446
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 2: and understand that that's act somewhat new territory.

1447
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: You're not like me saying okay, let's have action, because

1448
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: look it's again, it's one thing to say it, but

1449
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:23,680
Speaker 1: unless he lets him go fight Jake Paul August six,

1450
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: it means nothing, right Or I mean, if Dana's smart

1451
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:27,880
Speaker 1: and if he doesn't want to take part in it,

1452
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: which I don't think he does, wouldn't he wait until

1453
01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: after that anyway, If so, he's saying it publicly, would

1454
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: so you're saying it's most likely that he's saying it now,

1455
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: but maybe action comes in a few months after this

1456
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 1: Jake Paul window saying.

1457
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 2: What he's trying to do is he realizes he can't

1458
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 2: stop it, and he realizes that under any condition, it's

1459
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 2: probably going to do big money. To your point, if

1460
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,040
Speaker 2: he released him this instant and they booked the fight

1461
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:52,320
Speaker 2: against Jake Paul at MSG, I mean, does that do

1462
01:06:52,360 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 2: a million buys? It might? It might, And honestly, m.

1463
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: Dude, it might, it might, It's might.

1464
01:06:56,800 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 2: But here's what I think he wants to do. I

1465
01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 2: think he has tacitly accept did previous to this point anyway,

1466
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 2: tacitly accepted that that's an inevitability. And I think what

1467
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 2: they want to do is kind of lower his stock

1468
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 2: on the way out, not really to like have less

1469
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,200
Speaker 2: combat sports competition, but to lower the potential reward for

1470
01:07:13,320 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 2: Jake Paul conceivably winning. And also, you know, let's just

1471
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:18,600
Speaker 2: damage Nate on the way out now, I mean, in

1472
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 2: a sinister way. This is just what the UFC is

1473
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 2: often done. I bring it up all the time, I

1474
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 2: try it with Arlowski against Jacobrian.

1475
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 1: But that's what you think they're gonna do, So that

1476
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: that's if that happens. So what you're saying is you think, Okay,

1477
01:07:28,960 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: Dana said this, but they still want to book Nate

1478
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: in one more really tough fight, like against the Chamaiev type.

1479
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:37,720
Speaker 1: So that that that means, like, that's not much different

1480
01:07:37,720 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 1: if natea has one fight left on his deal. How

1481
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 1: does that change anything? Dana saying that? Do you don't know?

1482
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 2: I guess. I guess. What I'm trying to say is

1483
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 2: the way Dana is pitching it now is that he's

1484
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 2: pitching it in a way where it's like, oh, yeah,

1485
01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 2: that does make sense, almost like yes, your grandfather does

1486
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 2: need to be in a retirement home, like oh, that's

1487
01:07:56,640 --> 01:07:59,400
Speaker 2: the next stop on the train to sadness. And I

1488
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 2: guess that's where someone like Nate belongs. I mean, again,

1489
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 2: that's not my opinion. I'm not suggesting that's how I believe,

1490
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 2: and I don't know exactly how Dana believes it, but

1491
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:08,520
Speaker 2: the way he's kind of leaning into it is like,

1492
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 2: all right, I can't stop this inevitability, but what I

1493
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 2: can do is I can ruin it. A little bit,

1494
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 2: and by the time it arrives, I can frame it

1495
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:16,720
Speaker 2: in such a way as that you look at it

1496
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 2: as something and we would look at it as less

1497
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,519
Speaker 2: than you know, Nate versus RDA or something like that.

1498
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 2: Obviously it wouldn't be that, but you know, to really

1499
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 2: downplay it, to really almost turn it into a bit

1500
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 2: of a joke rather than because you know, be honest,

1501
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,840
Speaker 2: if Jake Paul got Nate Diaz in the ring, that

1502
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 2: elevates Jake Paul's brand, does it not hugely?

1503
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 1: So? I was gonna ask you, do you think it's you?

1504
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:41,519
Speaker 1: Because neither of us believe that Dana's gonna gonna do

1505
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 1: this in like a co promotion sense, like it like

1506
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: Maywether McGregor. Nor do we believe this fight is on

1507
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: that level Financially it's not. But to your point, it's

1508
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:51,839
Speaker 1: still a big deal. I don't even think Dana could

1509
01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: co promote this because doesn't that go against in some

1510
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 1: ways the deal he has with ESPN since this is

1511
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: a showtime date for Jake. I mean, does that does

1512
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: that does that play into it too? Dana couldn't just

1513
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 1: go help out another network's pay per view correct.

1514
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be The other part too, is Jake.

1515
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 2: You know, here's the question for you. If Jake was

1516
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:12,559
Speaker 2: aligned with the zone, would Dana want to stick it

1517
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:14,960
Speaker 2: to him as bad? He would still want to stick

1518
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 2: it to him obviously as bad. What do you think

1519
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:19,320
Speaker 2: it's interesting?

1520
01:09:19,400 --> 01:09:20,679
Speaker 1: That's an interesting ring because.

1521
01:09:20,920 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 2: Dana and Nadi Hearn kind of get along.

1522
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: They do, and everybody else in boxing hates Eddie Hearn

1523
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 1: right now and is one by one openly turning on him.

1524
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 1: Dana loves him. Yeah, I mean, dude again without any

1525
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:35,599
Speaker 1: action behind it. This is absolute nothing. It's fucking nothing, okay,

1526
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: but it's a nice sentiment, right, It's like it, Yeah,

1527
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 1: I believe fighter should get paid more. Okay, what are

1528
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: you gonna do about it?

1529
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 2: Luke?

1530
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: In regards to the potential whether it happened to August

1531
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 1: sixth or let's say, you know, November, Jake Paul in

1532
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:52,519
Speaker 1: a boxing match with Nate with Nate Diaz, excuse me.

1533
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:55,840
Speaker 1: Nate does compete at top level one hundred and seventy

1534
01:09:55,840 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 1: pounds in MMA. Jake competes at one hundred and ninety

1535
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 1: five or so in boxing. How do you give Nate

1536
01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:07,719
Speaker 1: Diaz like a huge chancer, a huge chance or what?

1537
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: How are you looking at this?

1538
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 2: I want to see how Nate looks in his next

1539
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 2: UFC fight, which you know may or may not tell

1540
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 2: us a lot, but it could potentially tell us a lot.

1541
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it all depends on the nature of the fight.

1542
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 2: Obviously I can make a better judgment call there. I'll

1543
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 2: just say this, like, I know it sounds in theory

1544
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,599
Speaker 2: absolutely fucking insane to think Jake Paul could beat Nate Diez.

1545
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 2: But I don't know how insane that is. You're right,

1546
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 2: he has the size of Ansler, he has a youth advantage.

1547
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 2: All he does is box, he doesn't do anything else.

1548
01:10:32,560 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 2: And no, I don't think Jake Paul could beat a

1549
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 2: prime Nate Diaz. Maybe he can't even beat an old Nadaz.

1550
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think it's competitive. I think it's

1551
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 2: probably competitive, and.

1552
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: I think there's enough intrigue of what we don't know

1553
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: that that just adds on to the sales of what

1554
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:49,679
Speaker 1: would be big to begin with because of the names.

1555
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 1: But when you add on, I'm not really sure who

1556
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 1: you know who wins that that's a potential blockbuster lit So, dude,

1557
01:10:56,600 --> 01:11:00,200
Speaker 1: I I mean, like Dana could easily just the right

1558
01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:01,920
Speaker 1: moves for Dana to cut the cord and say, Nate,

1559
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: thanks for everything. If you want to come back for

1560
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: a big fight, we'd love to have you form McGregor three.

1561
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,439
Speaker 1: But go do it. But dude, I just it's not

1562
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,040
Speaker 1: gonna happen without what you're saying, Without running him through

1563
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: the Tamaia of dry cleaning. But you know, run him

1564
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: through the car wash first, you know what I'm saying.

1565
01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, yeah, Also, Mike Tyson, I don't know, I'm

1566
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 2: not gonna read the whole quote, but Mike Tyson was

1567
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 2: on Jimmy Kimmel Live and kind of gave an indication

1568
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:27,760
Speaker 2: that he'd be somewhat interested in a Jake Paul fight,

1569
01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 2: called it interesting, says he's skilled enough because he's winning.

1570
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,559
Speaker 2: Even if he's fighting guys that you don't believe are

1571
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 2: good enough fighters. They should be able to beat him,

1572
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,320
Speaker 2: but they can't. He says he'd be kind of interested

1573
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 2: in it. I got to tell you, well, I don't

1574
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 2: really know how I feel about that. How do you

1575
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 2: feel about a potential Mike Tyson Jake Paul exit, Because

1576
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:47,799
Speaker 2: that's what it would be. I have to be an exhibition.

1577
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, whether it was Logan or Jake. They've both been

1578
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: rumored at times. I have a very love hate idea

1579
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 1: with this idea one because like Mike already had the

1580
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,800
Speaker 1: happy ending, right, we never thought we'd see him again

1581
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: any form of fighting, and he got into ridiculous shape

1582
01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,000
Speaker 1: and shout out to Mike, and you know, he didn't

1583
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: get hurt against Royan, looked pretty damn good and we

1584
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: were talking about him and all these other fights suddenly,

1585
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,559
Speaker 1: So that part hurts me, Luke. I mean, because Jake Paul,

1586
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: for whatever you want to say about him, he's a

1587
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:14,720
Speaker 1: big boy who can punch a little bit, right, Like,

1588
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,559
Speaker 1: let's give him that credit. He's an athlete to a degree,

1589
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 1: Like there's something there. But at the same time, dude,

1590
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 1: you could really talk yourself into the competition of this

1591
01:12:24,560 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 1: matchup and that both have a shot at potentially getting

1592
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 1: a knockout here, right, Like I know that's the that's

1593
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 1: the selling point. And I think it, by the way,

1594
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,559
Speaker 1: would do monster business. There's no way it couldn't. Even

1595
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: if Mike was sad and decrepit, it would still do

1596
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 1: monster business. You better believe it would.

1597
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 2: I'll just say this from my Jake Paul, you.

1598
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 1: Don't want to see Mike, you don't want to see

1599
01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 1: a sad ending in this, Luke, you really don't.

1600
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 2: Also, I just don't want to see it. I don't

1601
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 2: want to see it. Like here's the thing. They try,

1602
01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 2: the Logan Paul Mayweather thing, and it did big business.

1603
01:12:55,680 --> 01:12:57,839
Speaker 2: We were there, we had a great time in Miami,

1604
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,720
Speaker 2: but in the end, it was just too weird to

1605
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 2: get a really fun fight out of it. Mayweather was

1606
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 2: stealing on him constantly, but he was so small relative

1607
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 2: to Logan secause Logan Paul is a big, strong kid, right,

1608
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 2: So there was not much Logan Paul could do except

1609
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 2: tolerate it, and he kind of had flurries here and there.

1610
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:18,920
Speaker 2: It was just a weird pairing. It didn't really work

1611
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,679
Speaker 2: like you want people who are roughly similar in size,

1612
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 2: roughly similar in a few dimensions. This one's just too

1613
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 2: far apart. Like to me, the Jake Paul experience is

1614
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 2: much much, much more interesting when it's an actual professional contest.

1615
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 2: I think you could make an actual professional contest with

1616
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,000
Speaker 2: Nate Diaz maybe eight rounds. I don't know if you

1617
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,200
Speaker 2: could go ten, but you could probably go eight. That's enough.

1618
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,360
Speaker 2: That to me is reasonably intriguing. But when you're starting

1619
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,759
Speaker 2: to hedge, Okay, this guy's fifty, this guy's in his twenties,

1620
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 2: they're gonna be a you know, thirty pounds apart. We're

1621
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:50,720
Speaker 2: gonna have exhibition this size, gloves, this size. It just

1622
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 2: it ends up being something it's not supposed to keep it,

1623
01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 2: you know, reasonably in the same universe of where it's

1624
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 2: supposed to be to be, you know, uh, the proper stakes,

1625
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 2: the proper reactions, the proper kind of training to get

1626
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:06,280
Speaker 2: what you want, and I think you get a much

1627
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:08,320
Speaker 2: better product in the end. That's my personal view.

1628
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 1: All Right, I'm a little nervous. I'd still want to

1629
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 1: see it, dude, at the end of the day. And

1630
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: I think, do you know how many clicks you'd get

1631
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: of people that are like, fuck the Paul Brothers. They

1632
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 1: they deserve they have to come in for pretending they're boxers.

1633
01:14:21,720 --> 01:14:24,719
Speaker 1: Let's go to the bullpen and call Mike Tyson up, Like, dude,

1634
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 1: that's the ultimate impulse clickby like that, dude. What is

1635
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: the ceiling on pay per view bys for this? It's

1636
01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: it that be insane, It's.

1637
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 2: It's five yeah, right, has to be.

1638
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: I mean, we have we have recent, somewhat recent footage

1639
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,600
Speaker 1: of Mike Tyson looking good, right, Like we have a

1640
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,120
Speaker 1: somewhat recent footage, you know what I'm saying, We have

1641
01:14:45,160 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 1: footage of him just beating the shit out of a

1642
01:14:46,560 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 1: guy and a plane.

1643
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,599
Speaker 2: Like, I just I just don't believe Jake. Given who

1644
01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:52,040
Speaker 2: Jake Paul has fought to this point and who he's

1645
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 2: really looking to get, I don't think he takes it,

1646
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 2: even under hedged circumstances like an exhibition. I really don't.

1647
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:00,639
Speaker 1: You don't think he would take care?

1648
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 2: You serious, dude, No, I don't think he would take it.

1649
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 1: I disagree. While I'm not here to tell you that

1650
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:07,960
Speaker 1: Jake Paul is all these a million things. I mean, like,

1651
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 1: I think he's an He's honestly trying to be a

1652
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: good fighter. I give him that credit.

1653
01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 2: Yes, he strains, he trains hard, the kid trains hard.

1654
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,920
Speaker 1: He's a smart businessman. And like Logan accepting the Floyd

1655
01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:20,240
Speaker 1: fight when you're like, how the hell is Logan gonna

1656
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,679
Speaker 1: not get? You know, beat up badly? And by the way,

1657
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: it turned out to be a weird show, as you mentioned,

1658
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 1: not my favorite fight Logan Floyd ever, by any means,

1659
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 1: but it was a little weird to see that, you know,

1660
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 1: Floyd couldn't do what he wanted to. I think Jake

1661
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:35,679
Speaker 1: is like, I gotta take this chance. Du It's Mike Tyson,

1662
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,519
Speaker 1: I gotta take this chance, right, dude.

1663
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,080
Speaker 2: I think you know it's hard to say. Okay, so

1664
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 2: let's imagine the worst case scenario for Jake takes the fight,

1665
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:46,320
Speaker 2: makes some gazillion dollars but gets stretched, right, however unlikely

1666
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,479
Speaker 2: that might be, that is at least conceivably on the

1667
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 2: table if he gets stretched. I'm not going to sit

1668
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,200
Speaker 2: here and say that the Jake Paul Show is over.

1669
01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:56,000
Speaker 2: I think that's a little bit overstating it. I live

1670
01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,519
Speaker 2: through Kimbo Slice losing. It's not quite true that once

1671
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 2: they lose, the balloon pops, but it does do significant damage.

1672
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 2: It does actually have an effect, especially Kimba was it

1673
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:10,720
Speaker 2: was polarizing, but over time became beloved. Jake Paul is.

1674
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 2: You know that he has a fan base for sure,

1675
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 2: but he is quite polarizing in a similar kind of way.

1676
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 2: He actually, I would say, even the worst way, if

1677
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 2: you get stretched again, he could probably come up with

1678
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:23,960
Speaker 2: some fights afterwards like that. And I know I was like, oh,

1679
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 2: he lost to Mike Tyson, But dude, you know what

1680
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 2: the narrative would be. The narrative would be he lost

1681
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 2: to a guy in his fifties who's been smoking weed,

1682
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 2: wearing bumblebee costumes on TikTok, you know, not taking it

1683
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 2: seriously at all, and he got fucking put his guy,

1684
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 2: his lights put out. This guy can't beat anyone for shit.

1685
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: Eddie Hearn, who has said he's waiting for Jake Paul

1686
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 2: to get chinned, would have a field day. I think

1687
01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 2: he has to take fights now where he can at

1688
01:16:46,920 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 2: least reasonably look good, but he has to be able

1689
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:51,320
Speaker 2: to shine a little bit. I don't think he shines

1690
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 2: even in an exhibition against a fifty year old plus

1691
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:54,920
Speaker 2: Mike Tyson. I don't.

1692
01:16:55,080 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of problem you can if you're

1693
01:16:57,520 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: Jake Paul, you can look bad. If you he was

1694
01:17:00,240 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson, you'll look me. I mean like, there's ways

1695
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 1: you can look bad in this scenario. But anytime you're

1696
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 1: doing circus type of promotion, which this is to a degree,

1697
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:10,520
Speaker 1: it has that risk. Luke okay and again.

1698
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: Held the ropes held up Jake Paul against Tyremon Woodley

1699
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,160
Speaker 2: what do you think Mike Tyson would do. I know Mike,

1700
01:17:16,720 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 2: and you know.

1701
01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 1: Mike Tyson still got it from the standpoint of like,

1702
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 1: in any given minute, can he put together a combination

1703
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 1: that ends the fight. Yeah, he showed us against Roy

1704
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 1: Jones that if he takes it seriously and gets in

1705
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: stupid shape with I mean, look, he's got access to

1706
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: things that he didn't probably in the eighties to get

1707
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,679
Speaker 1: himself in stupid shape. You know what I'm saying.

1708
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 2: No doubt about it, all right, BC topic number four

1709
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 2: here kind of a small one, but it's interesting. Old

1710
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:42,160
Speaker 2: Bob Aram. Old Bob Aram is still out here making news.

1711
01:17:42,439 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 2: He did a media scrum and they asked him about

1712
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:49,960
Speaker 2: Fury Versus Francis and Ghanu. Here was his quote, quote, Well,

1713
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 2: I think he's still the MMA guy is still recovering

1714
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 2: from an injury, which is true. But I would love

1715
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 2: to do that fight. And depending on in Gan, who's

1716
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 2: contract with the UFC, we'd either do it with or

1717
01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:04,120
Speaker 2: without the UFC. But that would be a huge, huge event.

1718
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 2: BC would UFC co promote with Bob Aram. And for

1719
01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 2: folks who don't know, they haven't beefed recently, but throughout

1720
01:18:12,160 --> 01:18:17,120
Speaker 2: the entire twenty tens, all Dana White did was called

1721
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 2: Bob Aram a scumbag who was ruining boxing. So I

1722
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 2: don't know how likely that is.

1723
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 1: UFC is a bunch of skinhead fans watching other skinheads fight.

1724
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, roll around on the floor is what he said.

1725
01:18:31,680 --> 01:18:33,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's been a lot of those takes from a

1726
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 1: lot of boxing folks. So no, I don't love this fight.

1727
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 1: But here's the deal, and I get, I get there's

1728
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 1: a way that they could make this musty and very

1729
01:18:41,240 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: entertaining by you know, coming together on the rules like

1730
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:45,680
Speaker 1: like they've been talked about, and of course we're in

1731
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:48,759
Speaker 1: the trailer triad days. Where could you put small gloves

1732
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:51,960
Speaker 1: and BKFC style holding on this fight and make it

1733
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,200
Speaker 1: more interesting? Possibly you could. Yeah, I only think Dana

1734
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: White is going to do it, Luke, if there is

1735
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:01,400
Speaker 1: some form of Disney related he huge upside in him

1736
01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 1: doing them a solid in that regard, because no one's

1737
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,400
Speaker 1: doubting that if promoted right and using the vehicle of

1738
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,519
Speaker 1: you know, Sports Center on ESPN, on in every gym

1739
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: and you know, in a cafe here there. You know

1740
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like the promotional vehicle wise, it's a

1741
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:20,479
Speaker 1: slam frickin' dunk. But Dana has no real need to

1742
01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: do it, and I do think it opens up a

1743
01:19:22,880 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 1: Pandora's box potentially for the control that Dana and company

1744
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 1: have over you know, money and a lot of these

1745
01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: negative headlines that are happening because of the control they have.

1746
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 1: If they give into Anghano, yes they would you know,

1747
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 1: get them back under contract and you can still making

1748
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 1: Ghano and ridiculously big fights with you know, Stevee and

1749
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 1: Jones and Gon and all that. But it also, Luke,

1750
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: would be, it'd be it's set a new precedent in

1751
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 1: a lot of ways. So I don't think it happens

1752
01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: unless there's something that can only be done like at

1753
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,360
Speaker 1: the Bohemian Grove among high level CEOs, Like if Dana's

1754
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 1: sitting down with Disney and there, you know, there's giant

1755
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:00,320
Speaker 1: stacks on the table and they're like, you know you

1756
01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 1: do this for us. Well, you know, we won't tell

1757
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: John S Nash about this non documented budget bonus. We'll

1758
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:10,519
Speaker 1: give you right here. Do you agree with me on that, Luke,

1759
01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 1: that it's certainly possible that everybody involved could say yes

1760
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 1: to this with the UFC's inclusion in this, right, but

1761
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,760
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not the most likely scenario, correct.

1762
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,559
Speaker 2: I think it's the least likely scenario.

1763
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 1: All right, and we're we're on the staf page here, Luke, all.

1764
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,840
Speaker 2: Right, I don't think. I don't. I'm not saying there

1765
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,719
Speaker 2: will never be a scenario where Dana White doesn't work, Okay.

1766
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 2: I am not arguing that Dana White never works with

1767
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 2: a boxing promoter. Again, That's not what I'm saying. It

1768
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 2: is entirely possible. We live in a strange world. Strange

1769
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 2: things happen, But Bob fucking Aerm, I mean no, And

1770
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,640
Speaker 2: and even though they would financially benefit on that, you know,

1771
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:56,360
Speaker 2: on Francis's behalf, I don't think the UFC is all

1772
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:59,479
Speaker 2: that happy with Francis right now. So no, I don't.

1773
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 2: I don't see if that happening whatsoever.

1774
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, ifully agree, right, Yeah that I'm just saying it's

1775
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: possible to close on this before you transition out, Luke,

1776
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 1: because I think people do care. I wanted to ask

1777
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: you this. If I can remember what I was about

1778
01:21:11,960 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: to ask you, I'm sure it was great, though, Luke,

1779
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 1: Tyson Fury Eddie Hearn has echoed some sentiments I've heard

1780
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 1: related to Fury constantly saying I'm retired. I only want

1781
01:21:20,439 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 1: to come back for WWE or to box Francis, Right

1782
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:25,600
Speaker 1: like you hear that a lot from Fury. Do you

1783
01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 1: agree with Eddie Hern and some of the dissenters that

1784
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 1: Fury is not just trying to control the negotiation leverage

1785
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:35,519
Speaker 1: narrative by doing the whole tease of retirement, but that

1786
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: he really hopes Anthony Joshua beats Alexander Usik in their

1787
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: summer rematch, and if he doesn't, he may not see

1788
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 1: the value in taking on someone as hard to deal

1789
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,799
Speaker 1: with as Usik for all four belts, and may consider,

1790
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 1: you know, using this whole thing as a facade to

1791
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 1: walk away and avoid that. Do you think there's any

1792
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 1: any levels of truth to that?

1793
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, for sure, I think that. I mean I

1794
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:02,320
Speaker 2: would pick Fury to be eat Francis in a boxing match, obviously,

1795
01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 2: I would pick him to beat Joshua, and I would

1796
01:22:04,760 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 2: pick him to beat Usick. I think Usik's the most

1797
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,679
Speaker 2: competitive of the three, but I still think Fury beats

1798
01:22:09,720 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 2: all of them. And again, we're talking about a Fury

1799
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,200
Speaker 2: who's in shape, ready to go the whole thing. But

1800
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 2: at this stage, given how much money he could make

1801
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 2: one direction or the other, what he has to prove,

1802
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,840
Speaker 2: what he has to lose if something went wrong, if

1803
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:25,519
Speaker 2: he took one of the tougher fights that he doesn't

1804
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:29,440
Speaker 2: necessarily have to take, how he might play one opportunity

1805
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:31,639
Speaker 2: off of the other and hedge it as a way

1806
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 2: to get certain outcomes that he might prefer. Yes, I

1807
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:36,160
Speaker 2: totally think he's looking at the way in which he

1808
01:22:36,200 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 2: described for sure. I believe that.

1809
01:22:38,080 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 1: I mean, he's always working, right, you know what I'm saying,

1810
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: Like he's always doing something in a calculated way, or

1811
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 1: he's just goofing off And it's hard for us to

1812
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,760
Speaker 1: tell which way he's leaning at that moment. But Luke,

1813
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 1: I will say this, if he did that, if Usik

1814
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,120
Speaker 1: beats Joshua, and we have a chance right now to

1815
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 1: do a four belt heavyweight champion, you know, the biggest

1816
01:22:57,360 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: fight you can make in the sport. Both guys unbeaten

1817
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,720
Speaker 1: by the way, right, all four belts like and he

1818
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 1: avoided that purposely to go boxing Ghanu like and and didn't. Now, look,

1819
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:14,040
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean he couldn't come back into the heavyweight

1820
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:15,920
Speaker 1: boxing you can last forever. It doesn't mean he couldn't

1821
01:23:16,120 --> 01:23:18,040
Speaker 1: take three years off and make money and get fat

1822
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: again and do ww You get my point. But in

1823
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 1: the prime window, if you would allow the narrative to

1824
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: say that, Okay, you were unbeaten and you you were great,

1825
01:23:26,200 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 1: but you didn't you didn't try to fight everybody in

1826
01:23:29,080 --> 01:23:30,920
Speaker 1: your era and you walked away from because Luke, I

1827
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 1: agree with you. Fury versus Usik, which is a hella

1828
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 1: interesting matchup. Dude, we're both picking Fury and if they

1829
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, there's a lot of

1830
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 1: there's a Fury has so many more ways to win

1831
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 1: that than an Anthony Joshua would No, you know what

1832
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: I mean? So no, I don't know. I would not

1833
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: accept that I as a public narrative in terms of

1834
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 1: his legacy, and you could not accept that as an

1835
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:54,920
Speaker 1: honest boxing fan. Luke, you couldn't tell me, tell me

1836
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,160
Speaker 1: the truth. You couldn't him walking away, You couldn't. No, No,

1837
01:23:58,200 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: you can't do that does.

1838
01:23:59,120 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 2: Mean you won't do it actually if the price is

1839
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 2: right in one direction or the other. So we'll have

1840
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 2: to see, all right, last, but not least quick hitters BC.

1841
01:24:06,600 --> 01:24:09,439
Speaker 2: These aren't that great. We'll go through these very quickly.

1842
01:24:09,880 --> 01:24:13,720
Speaker 2: The rest of the UFC two seventy eight card was announced.

1843
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:15,760
Speaker 2: This of course will take place, I believe in Salt

1844
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 2: Lake City. This is going to be an August twentieth.

1845
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 2: This is Leon Edwards taking on current UFC walterweight champion

1846
01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:24,519
Speaker 2: Kamar Usman, who Dana has declared as incontestably the greatest

1847
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 2: walter ware.

1848
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,800
Speaker 1: At all the time. What the hell is up with that, dude?

1849
01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 1: What is that just him trying to stick at to

1850
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 1: the GSP. What are we doing here?

1851
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 2: Bro? Guy, you're making money off of? Guy, you're not

1852
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 2: making money off of What do you think the promoter

1853
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:38,519
Speaker 2: is going to say? Listen, it's not that. There's actually

1854
01:24:38,520 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 2: not an argument to make for Kamaru if you really

1855
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,599
Speaker 2: want to look at it. And it's difficult because if

1856
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 2: you just look at title defenses. GSP got to a

1857
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:50,000
Speaker 2: title earlier in his UFC run by virtue of the

1858
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 2: way the sport worked back then, where there wasn't this

1859
01:24:52,160 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 2: long contendership queue. But I would argue that like the

1860
01:24:55,160 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 2: guys GSP beat like that wrecord, that body of work

1861
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:00,800
Speaker 2: is better than Kamarrow's body work. Now thats you can

1862
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 2: have a debate about that. It's not like an ironclad truth.

1863
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 2: But like to say that like Ouspin is incontestably undeniably

1864
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:10,799
Speaker 2: I think was the word he used better than GSP.

1865
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,080
Speaker 2: That is not true at all. It's certainly a point

1866
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 2: you could make, but it's hardly like like, for example,

1867
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 2: who's the best light heavyweight of all time? It's John

1868
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:23,880
Speaker 2: Jones with a bullet Like, I mean, whatever else you

1869
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 2: want to say, that's the best, and the second best,

1870
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 2: Guy Cormier is a pretty distant second. You are we

1871
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 2: saying tomorrow? Is that to GSP that that's nonsense, That's

1872
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:33,960
Speaker 2: not true at.

1873
01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 1: All, Sorry, senator. I know Jack Kennedy and you're no

1874
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,200
Speaker 1: Jack Kennedy. Come on, dude, Like, unless you're just trying

1875
01:25:40,200 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 1: to entice GSP to come out of retirement to prove

1876
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:46,760
Speaker 1: him wrong, or.

1877
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 2: To shit on GSP, who might be free of his contract,

1878
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 2: who could take a boxing fight against Dale Hoya, there's

1879
01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 2: also that too, all right. Also on this card, we

1880
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 2: talked about it previously, Josel w be taking on Rob

1881
01:25:57,479 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 2: Dawallas Wheeley, which is a fun fight. This one was interesting,

1882
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 2: was supposed to happen, and I think even before this,

1883
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,439
Speaker 2: but was supposed to happen in July. They moved it

1884
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 2: to August. Luke Rockhold versus Paolo Costa. Helly be on

1885
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 2: this card as well.

1886
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:11,719
Speaker 1: This card kind of rocks, right.

1887
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:15,040
Speaker 2: It's not bad Marching Tabora taken on Alexander Romanov. Romanov,

1888
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 2: that's a big test. Ty Bora is kind of like

1889
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,960
Speaker 2: slept on by fans, and yeah, he's had ups, he's

1890
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:20,559
Speaker 2: had downs. He's not the best guy in the division.

1891
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 2: But Romanov looks to be somebody to pay attention to.

1892
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,599
Speaker 2: You beat ty Bora, that's a pretty legitimate win. As

1893
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 2: you escalate through the ranks, that's gonna be one to

1894
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 2: pay attention to. Leonardo Santos taking on Jared Gordon Tyson

1895
01:26:32,280 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 2: Pedro against Harry Hunsucker. Yeah, not about a red hot

1896
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 2: Sean Woodson, Luke, Okay, thank you, I will not uh

1897
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:43,920
Speaker 2: Louis Aldona all right? Also b C making the news.

1898
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 2: I don't care so much about this. It was kind

1899
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:52,080
Speaker 2: of interesting. Peotr Jon calls out Henry Sehudo, and Sahudo

1900
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,360
Speaker 2: responded to the call out saying, only if you would

1901
01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:55,840
Speaker 2: have had the gold, I would have loved to have

1902
01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:58,479
Speaker 2: buried you, and should you go back to Dakistan and

1903
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,679
Speaker 2: learn more wrestling because you got out rest by Division

1904
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:03,040
Speaker 2: three all American. That wouldn't be smart of you taking

1905
01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:06,200
Speaker 2: an Olympic champ after that. Lose lost spelled wrong. I'm

1906
01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:09,879
Speaker 2: after gold hoe Ben the knee. Knee spelled wrong. Yon responds.

1907
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:11,760
Speaker 2: The truth is you retired the day I became number

1908
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 2: one contender and unretired on the same day I ceased

1909
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:16,200
Speaker 2: to be a champion. Now you're ducking me again, only

1910
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,640
Speaker 2: proving those facts. So Hudo responds, and you lost to

1911
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 2: al Jo lame. It's a very funny joke. If you've

1912
01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 2: been hitting the head with a hammer, do you think

1913
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:26,960
Speaker 2: the Olympic Champ two division UFC is going to play

1914
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 2: with sorry ass contenders? Your fat ass bold manger is

1915
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 2: going to get your hurt. I'll give twenty percent off

1916
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:37,200
Speaker 2: if you subscribe to my Technique of the week. You

1917
01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 2: know I'm getting the title shoot next. I don't know

1918
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 2: if Henry's riding those tweets. B see, I'm just gonna

1919
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 2: point that out.

1920
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:45,719
Speaker 1: Oh wow, he's trying to say there's somebody else that

1921
01:27:45,720 --> 01:27:48,080
Speaker 1: that writes those for the fighters. That'd be cringe Luke,

1922
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,680
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this though. You know, I've supported Suhudo,

1923
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 1: understanding his value, leaving for a while on his own terms,

1924
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: and now trying to parachute in for big opportunities. Dude,

1925
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:02,799
Speaker 1: I'm here if you want to fight Volkanovski, Connor, whoever.

1926
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 1: But I'm kind of sick of this conversation. I know

1927
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,559
Speaker 1: he's taken the steps to get himself back in the

1928
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: testing pool, and we're in the process right now. And

1929
01:28:11,160 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 1: I know that he's also trying to land this, you know,

1930
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: put out fielders, land a big fight. But I am

1931
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,080
Speaker 1: getting a little sick of this. I want to see

1932
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 1: him fight now, Luke. He makes big fights against everyone.

1933
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:23,439
Speaker 1: I do think he is super elite, top of the

1934
01:28:23,439 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 1: powerful pound consideration when active, had that incredible year, multiple divisions.

1935
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 1: I love me some Henry s Hudo, despite the cringe,

1936
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,240
Speaker 1: But I'm ready for the fight now, Luke. Okay, if

1937
01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:36,200
Speaker 1: it's John, hell yeah. If it's gian O Helly, absolutely

1938
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 1: hell yeah.

1939
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm a little sick of it too. Just two

1940
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:40,920
Speaker 2: more of these very quickly. Dana says he's not going

1941
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 2: to rebook Serroni versus Lozan At the first time they

1942
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:46,640
Speaker 2: booked it Serni got a sick last minute, like a

1943
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 2: food poison kind of thing. Then they rebooked it and

1944
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 2: moved like. A few weeks later, Joel Lozan had a

1945
01:28:51,560 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 2: potella tendon issue, which he then resolved. Last minute. He

1946
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 2: had some kind of weird condition where I guess it

1947
01:28:57,600 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 2: was like dislocated or whatever. Fixed it, tried to get

1948
01:29:00,479 --> 01:29:03,800
Speaker 2: the fight again, it still wouldn't happen, and Dana White's like,

1949
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:05,880
Speaker 2: I'm not going to rebook it last but not least

1950
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 2: to be see. I don't even know what to say

1951
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 2: about this one, so you can take this one away.

1952
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,840
Speaker 2: September fourth, Fox Sports pay per view. Who is going

1953
01:29:13,920 --> 01:29:17,360
Speaker 2: to pay for this? Andy Ruiz taking on Luis Ortiz?

1954
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 2: Not the worst fight in the world, but on a

1955
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 2: pay per view?

1956
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:23,960
Speaker 1: Okay, not the worst fight in the world. No on

1957
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:26,880
Speaker 1: pay per view? Hell no, a two year bill to

1958
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 1: get to this fight. No, it makes no sense. I

1959
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: don't really understand of late what Fox has been doing.

1960
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:35,760
Speaker 1: Although the Keith Thurman Mario Barrios fight like good fight

1961
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,280
Speaker 1: on paper, not really a pay per view, still, people

1962
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 1: paid for it, fun fight to watch. We haven't heard

1963
01:29:40,840 --> 01:29:44,599
Speaker 1: anything from them since, seemingly Luke so it seems like

1964
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:46,519
Speaker 1: Fox playing out the string of the end of their

1965
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,720
Speaker 1: PBC deal. It's still a fight. We kind of have

1966
01:29:49,840 --> 01:29:52,160
Speaker 1: to see what happens. Ortiz forty three kind of went

1967
01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:55,679
Speaker 1: life or death with Charles Martin and Prince Charles Martin whatever,

1968
01:29:55,720 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: Sir Charles Martin, I don't know, you know the guy

1969
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. In their January first pay per view,

1970
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:04,280
Speaker 1: which was another puzzling pay per view direction, Ortiz still

1971
01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 1: has something. Ruiz hasn't fought since getting up off the

1972
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 1: canvas to be Ariola and another pay per view that

1973
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:13,320
Speaker 1: probably shouldn't have been. I like the fight. I like

1974
01:30:13,400 --> 01:30:15,880
Speaker 1: the matchup. The winner could get a big money, you know,

1975
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:19,479
Speaker 1: heavyweight fight. But this is like trying to serve me

1976
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,920
Speaker 1: a grilled cheese on a you know, with a sneak knife. Fluke, Right,

1977
01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:24,519
Speaker 1: Does that make any sense?

1978
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1979
01:30:26,640 --> 01:30:28,640
Speaker 1: Does depend on what's inside the grilled cheese? I mean,

1980
01:30:28,680 --> 01:30:30,960
Speaker 1: you get tomato in yours? Luke. It's it's automatic, right.

1981
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 2: You got it? Ooh? You know what my go to is? Well,

1982
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:34,920
Speaker 2: I haven't had it in a while, but it used

1983
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 2: to Actually, it used to be my go to. I

1984
01:30:37,200 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 2: like to get a wheat bagel toasted cream cheese with

1985
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,519
Speaker 2: a tomato. That's my go to. I like that rule.

1986
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 2: That's badass.

1987
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:45,800
Speaker 1: A one more for you on the way out. Luke

1988
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,920
Speaker 1: Sports Betting dot Age, who always seems to put out

1989
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 1: those odds on fights right after people whisper about them,

1990
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 1: they have Nate Diaz as an early minus two point

1991
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 1: fifty favorite over the plus one seventy Jake Paul, which

1992
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:01,799
Speaker 1: is the exactly op a sit sort of early stance

1993
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:04,360
Speaker 1: that I had of like, this size difference may be

1994
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:07,439
Speaker 1: more than people think. They're like, no, these hands difference, Luke,

1995
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:08,160
Speaker 1: are gonna be the.

1996
01:31:08,120 --> 01:31:12,280
Speaker 2: Difference maybe, but you know, Diaz is not young, and

1997
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,360
Speaker 2: again they're gonna give him a rough ass fight on

1998
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:15,880
Speaker 2: the way out. That's just the way it's gonna be.

1999
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 2: Which Nate could do the imp you know, not the

2000
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,400
Speaker 2: impossible he could do because he could surprise people and

2001
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:22,640
Speaker 2: you stick it to UFC again. I saw it with Ourlowski.

2002
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:26,240
Speaker 2: Everybody thought Jacobrien was gonna run him over and he didn't.

2003
01:31:26,360 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 2: So we'll have to see, but it could get interesting. Uh.

2004
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:33,120
Speaker 2: And that's it. That's it for our quick hitters. It's

2005
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:34,360
Speaker 2: time for your feces.

2006
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:38,559
Speaker 1: BC's Yeah, every Monday at this time, although today's Wednesday,

2007
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:41,960
Speaker 1: we do BC's Feces, which is me scouring the globe

2008
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:45,120
Speaker 1: for the highs and lows sakes.

2009
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 2: The name of this top this segment from have You

2010
01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 2: Seen This Ship to BC's Feces.

2011
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 1: The good, the bad, the ugly, the in between, combat

2012
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,599
Speaker 1: sports and beyond, and boy was it a loaded combat

2013
01:31:54,640 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 1: sports highlight weekend look. Trying to pick through that UFC

2014
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,240
Speaker 1: card I could have put every fight. I seriously could

2015
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 1: have put a video from every fight on there in Austin.

2016
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:10,519
Speaker 1: It's called have you seen this shit? Oh God, Luke,

2017
01:32:10,640 --> 01:32:14,840
Speaker 1: can you fight night in Austin? Did you see women

2018
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:19,160
Speaker 1: strawweight Maria Olivera, who had swagger all week at this event,

2019
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 1: licking the blood off her gloves. There she's in the

2020
01:32:22,160 --> 01:32:25,439
Speaker 1: yellow from Brazil, Luke. She did it after the fight

2021
01:32:25,479 --> 01:32:28,000
Speaker 1: as well, a lot of people making bj pen memes.

2022
01:32:28,479 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: I originally took my mind to the lava shack, but uh,

2023
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 1: you into this, Luke.

2024
01:32:33,320 --> 01:32:36,799
Speaker 2: It's a little overdone at this point. But I thought

2025
01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,400
Speaker 2: I thought Olivera. I can't say I thought she should

2026
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 2: deserve to lose, because I wasn't fully watching the fight

2027
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:43,639
Speaker 2: like a judge, So I don't. I can't say that.

2028
01:32:43,479 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 2: I did think that de Paula was piecing her up

2029
01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 2: a little bit later, but dude, you're right. She came

2030
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:52,760
Speaker 2: in there, like I mean, from the opening bell, she

2031
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:55,679
Speaker 2: was set on fire. So I kind of like her swag.

2032
01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:56,639
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, but.

2033
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:02,439
Speaker 1: Split decision over the three rounds against Gloria Depaula. There

2034
01:33:02,479 --> 01:33:04,680
Speaker 1: was also some dancing on the stage of the way in,

2035
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:06,880
Speaker 1: so she's getting our attention here, Luke. Let's keep it

2036
01:33:06,920 --> 01:33:10,960
Speaker 1: going though, Friend of the program, Adrian Yanaz putting them

2037
01:33:11,160 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 1: hands that you mentioned as some of the best boxing

2038
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 1: in the UFC on Tony Kelly. Look at this handywork, Luke. Bro.

2039
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:21,720
Speaker 2: Did you see Tony Kelly responding on social media afterwards? No?

2040
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 2: I didn't, Dude, he doubled. I mean he what did

2041
01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,200
Speaker 2: he say? Something about like some I don't even want

2042
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,519
Speaker 2: to repeat it, some racist shit about Latinos and what

2043
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 2: they do. I'm like, Bro, okay, man, probably not the

2044
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,520
Speaker 2: way to handle things, but okay.

2045
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 1: Mister Campanas, can you please put the microphone down? Thank you, Luke.

2046
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:47,879
Speaker 1: Speaking of Yanas, here was his take slinging that Texas

2047
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 1: she at after the fight. We don't get from if

2048
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,599
Speaker 1: period at teches you find a Texas guy against slipt

2049
01:33:59,120 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 1: Texas forever. Yeah, luke in on that.

2050
01:34:02,040 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 2: I do love Adrian Anez. I think he's a wonderful talent.

2051
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 2: I don't love Texas that much. I got relatives in Texas.

2052
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 2: It ain't that money.

2053
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:11,599
Speaker 1: Hey, Joe Rogan in the crowd, do you see that?

2054
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:13,840
Speaker 2: I did? I did, and I was like, wait, oh,

2055
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 2: well he doesn't do fight nights, that's right. He only

2056
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:17,679
Speaker 2: does the pay per views, so and at the only

2057
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 2: domestic pay per views. That that that's a good gig. Bro,

2058
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:21,680
Speaker 2: What do you let me ask you a question? What

2059
01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:26,160
Speaker 2: do you think his per event check looks like? Serious

2060
01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:27,719
Speaker 2: question for Joe Rogan?

2061
01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,519
Speaker 1: You do have to understand the levels of fame he

2062
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:34,000
Speaker 1: reached due to his podcast blown up in the Spotify

2063
01:34:34,040 --> 01:34:36,000
Speaker 1: deal and all that. It was more than I ever

2064
01:34:36,080 --> 01:34:38,920
Speaker 1: thought for a guy who hosted What Fear Factor was

2065
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:41,400
Speaker 1: in a popular sit on I'm on NBC and is

2066
01:34:41,439 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 1: a world renowned comic. I mean, he's uber famous. So

2067
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 1: his per night to call, So what are you paying

2068
01:34:47,080 --> 01:34:49,200
Speaker 1: if you're the UFC for him to call a pay

2069
01:34:49,240 --> 01:34:49,639
Speaker 1: per view?

2070
01:34:51,320 --> 01:34:52,960
Speaker 2: I think it's six figures.

2071
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:55,240
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, is seventy five grand too high?

2072
01:34:55,240 --> 01:34:56,679
Speaker 1: You're gonna go right up to six figures?

2073
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:59,679
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's much more than seventy five grand. Yeah?

2074
01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:02,880
Speaker 1: Is it? Because we're always blown away in TV? Right

2075
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:05,080
Speaker 1: when you find out that the you know, lead actors

2076
01:35:05,080 --> 01:35:07,960
Speaker 1: in Seinfeld were making what like multiple million per episode

2077
01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 1: by the end, right, like it was like some of your.

2078
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:11,840
Speaker 2: D Yeah, he's not in Seinfeld territory, but if you

2079
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:14,080
Speaker 2: told me two fifty grand a pop, I would I wouldn't.

2080
01:35:14,120 --> 01:35:18,200
Speaker 2: I would believe it. Damn damn dude, dude, think about it.

2081
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 2: How many pay per views does he do a year?

2082
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 2: Like nine to ten? He doesn't do all of them,

2083
01:35:21,920 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 2: sometimes less than that, so that would be what two

2084
01:35:24,479 --> 01:35:27,080
Speaker 2: and a half mil a year? Like that seems about right?

2085
01:35:27,200 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 1: That seems that seems about right. Yeah, I guess I

2086
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:31,880
Speaker 1: guess you're right. Doing less states also increases that that

2087
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:35,040
Speaker 1: uh per pro outing number. Luke, let's keep it going

2088
01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:36,680
Speaker 1: on this undercard, And again, I know I had so

2089
01:35:36,760 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 1: many to pick from, but how about Cody Staman sending

2090
01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:43,880
Speaker 1: Eddie Weinlan into retirement very brutally, dude, This was one way,

2091
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 1: one minute traffic here.

2092
01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:48,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, the ref could have stepped in a little earlier here,

2093
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:51,360
Speaker 2: you know. He was Yeah, I mean that that was

2094
01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:53,799
Speaker 2: the end there within a minute of the first round,

2095
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 2: but that went on for a while. This was like,

2096
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:00,479
Speaker 2: this was the end of the bear mall, but there

2097
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:03,599
Speaker 2: was a beginning to the bear mauling too, Luke.

2098
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 1: You want to say anything nice about the the inaugural

2099
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:08,599
Speaker 1: w e C Bantam Wait champion, Eddie Winland.

2100
01:36:08,720 --> 01:36:10,479
Speaker 2: He had a great Honestly, he had a great career, dude.

2101
01:36:10,479 --> 01:36:12,200
Speaker 2: He was in a lot of big fights. He had

2102
01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:14,439
Speaker 2: some solid wins. He did it for a really long time.

2103
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:16,960
Speaker 2: He always had an awkward style. He always kind of

2104
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 2: stuck to it. He represented the Midwest the whole way.

2105
01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:21,599
Speaker 2: Like he should be very proud of himself.

2106
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:24,880
Speaker 1: Yet thunder, Yeah, thunder and then fish too, Luke.

2107
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 2: Okay, yes he could. In his day, he was a formidable,

2108
01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 2: formidable opponent, dude. Like again, everyone wants to be like, oh,

2109
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 2: either you're John Jones or or nothing. Nah, man, There's

2110
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 2: a lot of in between, and Eddie Wyland occupies a

2111
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 2: very very i would say, you know, he occupied a

2112
01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:41,439
Speaker 2: really great space for the time he carved out in

2113
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:42,479
Speaker 2: the career. Yeah for sure.

2114
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:45,320
Speaker 1: Well Winland walks into retirement. Luke. If you're wondering where

2115
01:36:45,360 --> 01:36:47,599
Speaker 1: Stayman walked to after the win, let's hear from him.

2116
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 2: I love him, Texas, Let's gone. I mean fucking wait, dude,

2117
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 2: that was me every night of my twenties, Like looking

2118
01:36:58,360 --> 01:36:58,920
Speaker 2: in the mirror.

2119
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 1: That's aready like two thousand and eight ish for UFC, right,

2120
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,439
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine ish. It's like that had the

2121
01:37:04,479 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 1: whole promotion had that vibe. But now when we see

2122
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, by the way, speaking of Cowboy, I didn't

2123
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:09,360
Speaker 1: put it in here.

2124
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:09,720
Speaker 2: I could have.

2125
01:37:09,840 --> 01:37:11,519
Speaker 1: Do you see his kids dressed up in the full

2126
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:14,479
Speaker 1: three piece suit with a monster energy cowboy hat. You

2127
01:37:14,479 --> 01:37:15,080
Speaker 1: into that, Luke?

2128
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:20,080
Speaker 2: Oh? You know, everyone's got their own way of living.

2129
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:23,559
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not gonna tell Cowboy how to live, Luke.

2130
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:26,840
Speaker 1: He's a legend. Damn right, all right, Phil Howes, Luke

2131
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:31,200
Speaker 1: put it on Golden Boy Mma a wombles, Phil Howes,

2132
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:35,560
Speaker 1: Phil Hawes paws like that's all I said, haws. Yeah,

2133
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,559
Speaker 1: he put it on Mini mea d C Duran win.

2134
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 1: They finally stopped this bloody battle. I know there was

2135
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 1: a dust up after between DC who told Howes to

2136
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:49,680
Speaker 1: be respectful during the commercial full full house over here,

2137
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 1: Phil Howes, Luke, were you impressed though this was a

2138
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 1: brutal beating?

2139
01:37:53,640 --> 01:37:55,639
Speaker 2: You know what? Did you see the video? Durn Winn

2140
01:37:55,720 --> 01:37:59,639
Speaker 2: put out like he narrated Phil Hawes beating his ass

2141
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:02,439
Speaker 2: and he was loud and it's hilarious too, Like I

2142
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 2: feel bad for Deron Winn. He's a good dude, but

2143
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:07,439
Speaker 2: he was like, all right here, this is exactly how

2144
01:38:07,479 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 2: when he's like, all right now you see phul haw

2145
01:38:09,360 --> 01:38:12,240
Speaker 2: ish elbowing me for the thirty millionth time, that shit

2146
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 2: fucking hurt and herr he has left hooking me. Oh,

2147
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:17,200
Speaker 2: that shit really hurt. Like he just goes on and

2148
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:19,120
Speaker 2: on about the guy getting his ass beat. I give

2149
01:38:19,240 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 2: I Deran Win a lot of credit for, like, you know,

2150
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:25,640
Speaker 2: just we always talk about this. Everyone always interviewed you

2151
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:27,559
Speaker 2: is the loser, and I know a lot of fighters like, oh,

2152
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 2: there's nothing lonelier than when you lose, and like, you know,

2153
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 2: when you win, everyone's congratulating you. When you lose, no

2154
01:38:32,000 --> 01:38:34,120
Speaker 2: one is. But from the media side, I'll say this,

2155
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:36,639
Speaker 2: like I want to be respectful of someone having time

2156
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:38,200
Speaker 2: to themselves to lose. I don't want to stick a

2157
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:40,400
Speaker 2: microphone on their face. But I will also say at

2158
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:44,080
Speaker 2: the same time, BC, sometimes the loser has much more

2159
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:47,120
Speaker 2: interesting things to say than the winner. This would be

2160
01:38:47,160 --> 01:38:47,880
Speaker 2: one such case.

2161
01:38:48,560 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And and and if you're wondering why, like

2162
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:53,439
Speaker 1: why would Win take that beating, there was like a

2163
01:38:53,479 --> 01:38:55,280
Speaker 1: brief second where looked like he was coming on in

2164
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 1: the second half of that fight, and you thought the

2165
01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:59,479
Speaker 1: you know, the gas tanks were going in opposite directions,

2166
01:38:59,520 --> 01:39:04,000
Speaker 1: but that wasn't true, Luke, Phil Hawes kicked his damn.

2167
01:39:04,040 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 1: I mean, shout out to dron Win for taking that

2168
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:07,040
Speaker 1: and hopefully bounces back.

2169
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:08,559
Speaker 2: Luke, it was a lot of abuse.

2170
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 1: He took PFL from Atlanta, Luke. Did you see Josh

2171
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 1: Sylvieira of course, son of Brazilian trek Conan Sylvia of

2172
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:20,400
Speaker 1: Att fame. Luke, he put it on Martin Hamlet in

2173
01:39:20,439 --> 01:39:21,719
Speaker 1: a crazy finish here.

2174
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:23,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about this Aaron bron Setter and I

2175
01:39:23,960 --> 01:39:26,599
Speaker 2: on Friday. It's silvera He is the son of Conan,

2176
01:39:27,120 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 2: who is sort of a famous coach, former fighter himself

2177
01:39:29,479 --> 01:39:32,800
Speaker 2: over at att big old dude, and his son is undefeated.

2178
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 2: This was another one he got first round stoppage. I

2179
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:38,960
Speaker 2: think this was his PFL debut and he is I think.

2180
01:39:39,280 --> 01:39:41,040
Speaker 2: I think what Aaron told me was UFC wanted to

2181
01:39:41,080 --> 01:39:42,680
Speaker 2: sign him and they were going to and he went

2182
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:45,400
Speaker 2: to PFL instead. It's not a bad call. You get

2183
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:47,120
Speaker 2: some good experience and if you win the whole thing,

2184
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:49,720
Speaker 2: you get a shitload of money. Yeah, in the process.

2185
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:51,719
Speaker 2: It's an interesting choice that he made.

2186
01:39:52,160 --> 01:39:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, he looks to be the goods here. I've

2187
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:56,760
Speaker 1: seen him before in terms of the whispering for you know,

2188
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:59,439
Speaker 1: Conan's son is turning pro and he looks to be

2189
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:02,400
Speaker 1: pretty damn good. Martin Hamlet was in contention, I believe

2190
01:40:02,439 --> 01:40:04,760
Speaker 1: last year for that championship, so this is a good

2191
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:08,280
Speaker 1: win for him. Also at PFL, Luke, Jeremy Stephens shaved

2192
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:10,639
Speaker 1: seemingly every part of his body to try to make weight.

2193
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:14,719
Speaker 1: But now the videotape emerges of a Daniel Cormier UFC

2194
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:19,439
Speaker 1: two ten like potential cheating. They say, if you look closely,

2195
01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:24,280
Speaker 1: Stevens left heel lifting off the ground. He didn't grab

2196
01:40:24,360 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 1: the towel like DC. But Luke, do you smell fishery

2197
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:28,200
Speaker 1: in this at all?

2198
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:31,719
Speaker 2: A little bit? Look? Actually, look at his outside toes. Yes,

2199
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 2: his no, No, it's less to me about the heel, and

2200
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:36,640
Speaker 2: it's more as a guy who has to weigh in

2201
01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 2: constantly to monitors progress, you're all of your feet have

2202
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:45,080
Speaker 2: to be on the black part that where the censors are.

2203
01:40:45,160 --> 01:40:49,160
Speaker 2: So he's actually putting less input on the sensors. But

2204
01:40:49,240 --> 01:40:50,719
Speaker 2: you know, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying.

2205
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 1: So whatever, Rubbins, Rice, And yeah, Stevens did get the win.

2206
01:40:55,080 --> 01:40:56,720
Speaker 1: Did you were you impressed? I think you got a

2207
01:40:56,760 --> 01:40:58,679
Speaker 1: split decision over Miles someone.

2208
01:40:59,280 --> 01:41:00,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't see. I didn't see the fight. I

2209
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 2: did see that he got the win. But yeah, all.

2210
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:05,280
Speaker 1: Right, you're like, we I don't watch that ship, Louke.

2211
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:05,639
Speaker 2: It's good.

2212
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:06,479
Speaker 1: Pfl's good this year.

2213
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:09,240
Speaker 2: No PFL has fights. PFL has fights on Friday night

2214
01:41:09,280 --> 01:41:11,400
Speaker 2: as well. Anthony Pettis's back. It's actually a decent car.

2215
01:41:11,479 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 2: But we'll talk about that on Friday.

2216
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:15,240
Speaker 1: All right, Luke, how about this? You know I get

2217
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:19,640
Speaker 1: sentimental for these homecomings, YERI prahatchka. Wow, coming back to this,

2218
01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:23,479
Speaker 1: coming back to the Czech Republic as the as the

2219
01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:27,840
Speaker 1: warrior champion, he is, Luke, well earned, well earned.

2220
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:29,840
Speaker 2: My dad took me to the Czech Republic on a

2221
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 2: family visit in two thousand and one. It's a phenomenal place.

2222
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:36,559
Speaker 2: I didn't know what kind of support because you know,

2223
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:39,720
Speaker 2: if a fighter goes back to like Rio dejan Naro, yeah,

2224
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 2: they're going to be treated as like a big hero

2225
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:43,759
Speaker 2: or something, right because well, you know, I'm just saying

2226
01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:46,560
Speaker 2: I've been told that in Brazil, soccer of course is

2227
01:41:46,640 --> 01:41:48,800
Speaker 2: number one, but MMA is right behind it, which is

2228
01:41:48,840 --> 01:41:50,120
Speaker 2: kind of crazy to think about it. I mean it's

2229
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 2: a huge country with you know, a lot of people.

2230
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 2: I just didn't know what, like, what's the Czech Republic

2231
01:41:55,520 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 2: going to be like? And dude, they showed the fuck

2232
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:00,000
Speaker 2: up for this guy. I was so happy to see

2233
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,439
Speaker 2: the mm A popular and like these pockets that we

2234
01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:04,200
Speaker 2: don't really have access to her in the States to

2235
01:42:04,479 --> 01:42:06,759
Speaker 2: better understand look at that. That was great.

2236
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:10,200
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's like I kind of I've always

2237
01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:12,400
Speaker 1: loved it, whether it's like Yao Ming and the NBA,

2238
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,240
Speaker 1: or remember when Eachi Ro first landed in the Indivijor

2239
01:42:15,280 --> 01:42:18,040
Speaker 1: League baseball. It's like the media is like following every

2240
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 1: pitch or moment or whatever, and it's like it's such

2241
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:23,719
Speaker 1: a frenzy, but it you know, it makes new fans,

2242
01:42:23,720 --> 01:42:25,519
Speaker 1: It draws attention to see him get that love, as

2243
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:28,360
Speaker 1: you mentioned, after going through hell literally to get to

2244
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:28,800
Speaker 1: that point.

2245
01:42:28,880 --> 01:42:30,559
Speaker 2: I mean, you could say whatever you want about him,

2246
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:31,759
Speaker 2: but he earned it. He earned.

2247
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:36,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't show love to our athletes any any

2248
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 1: level of comparison, not even the Olympic level to what

2249
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 1: these other countries do.

2250
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 2: Luke, right, Yeah, we're spoiled here though. Like you ever

2251
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,760
Speaker 2: watched like the Olympic, the summer Olympic medal count it's

2252
01:42:45,760 --> 01:42:48,640
Speaker 2: always like US China and then sometimes like Germany or

2253
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 2: some shit that we usually win on overall and gold

2254
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:53,760
Speaker 2: medal counts like worst. We have so many good high

2255
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 2: level athletes here. We're spoiled as shit, so you know, yeah.

2256
01:42:58,040 --> 01:42:59,760
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. Let's go to Top ring

2257
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:03,160
Speaker 1: By from the Hulu Theater at MSG in New York, Luke,

2258
01:43:03,439 --> 01:43:09,840
Speaker 1: Troy Isley. Check out this right hand finish. Oh got

2259
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:13,519
Speaker 1: him in the step look like the ending of Rocky three,

2260
01:43:13,600 --> 01:43:15,559
Speaker 1: right where they freeze it like they both land at

2261
01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:16,040
Speaker 1: the same time.

2262
01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 2: It looked like that was Yeah, I need to see

2263
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:21,559
Speaker 2: it one more time if they can show it. He's

2264
01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:24,000
Speaker 2: still Oh no, he slipped to the outside and caught

2265
01:43:24,080 --> 01:43:28,160
Speaker 2: him in the middle. Jesus, that was vicious, Luke.

2266
01:43:28,200 --> 01:43:30,719
Speaker 1: Your comin event to the Better b fight was featherweight

2267
01:43:30,840 --> 01:43:34,160
Speaker 1: Robaz Ramirez, who had an early upset loss to his

2268
01:43:34,200 --> 01:43:36,640
Speaker 1: pro career but's putting it back together. Check Out this

2269
01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:39,679
Speaker 1: ko of previously unbeaten Abraham Nova.

2270
01:43:39,760 --> 01:43:43,040
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, and just do and look at the way

2271
01:43:43,040 --> 01:43:46,080
Speaker 2: he dismissively looks at him as he walks away.

2272
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:48,560
Speaker 1: Oh he's a badass, dude, Rameirez. I think he was

2273
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 1: a gold medalist. He was an absolute badass as an amateur,

2274
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 1: and he's got that swagger for the pro game. Look indeed,

2275
01:43:55,240 --> 01:43:55,719
Speaker 1: look at.

2276
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 2: This over the top missus and then just straight down

2277
01:43:58,960 --> 01:43:59,839
Speaker 2: the middle boom.

2278
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:02,760
Speaker 1: And Nova's that dude who always colors his beard like

2279
01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,400
Speaker 1: he's Hollywoodhulk Cogan and has a mascot that looks like

2280
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:07,120
Speaker 1: him that follows him to the ring. I love that guy,

2281
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:10,559
Speaker 1: So shout out to Abraham Nova. Also on this card, Luke,

2282
01:44:10,600 --> 01:44:13,679
Speaker 1: here's a video footage of Better Beef just just fucking

2283
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 1: Joe Smith up. Here's the first knockdown. Dude to the

2284
01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:16,599
Speaker 1: top of the.

2285
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:19,360
Speaker 2: Skull, Dude, This was a mugging. Now see how bad

2286
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 2: we were talking about before. You see how BUTTERBEV was

2287
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:25,400
Speaker 2: backing up and drops him, just setting traps for him.

2288
01:44:25,439 --> 01:44:27,040
Speaker 2: It's one thing to go forward, and you're like, all right,

2289
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 2: I'll let you go forward. Just walking into a trap

2290
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 2: on this guy. He tries to double joy in the

2291
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:32,800
Speaker 2: times the second jab.

2292
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:35,479
Speaker 1: Dude, he kind of knocked him down with the palm

2293
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:38,160
Speaker 1: of his glove like it was a sweeping hook that

2294
01:44:38,200 --> 01:44:40,920
Speaker 1: looked like more of like a slap. But damn, that

2295
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:41,400
Speaker 1: was hard.

2296
01:44:41,920 --> 01:44:46,080
Speaker 2: But nothing nothing, you know, half asked about that left

2297
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:49,040
Speaker 2: hook here stays in front of him to jab. Oh,

2298
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:52,120
Speaker 2: just down the middle, hooking shot, down the middle, hooking shot.

2299
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:57,880
Speaker 2: He's all over the place, this guy. Oh, look at

2300
01:44:57,880 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 2: that right hand, dude, that was d that's.

2301
01:44:59,479 --> 01:45:02,519
Speaker 1: Straight right hand was there all day for him. Damn.

2302
01:45:03,800 --> 01:45:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean.

2303
01:45:04,760 --> 01:45:06,920
Speaker 2: Jasmith later was saying the first time he got rocked,

2304
01:45:06,960 --> 01:45:08,960
Speaker 2: he just could not get his legs under him again,

2305
01:45:09,040 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 2: just couldn't equilibrium. Dude.

2306
01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 1: You get hit around that ear and boxing early, you

2307
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:16,200
Speaker 1: may last four or five rounds like Joshua did against

2308
01:45:16,240 --> 01:45:19,519
Speaker 1: Andy Ruiz, right, but you're never the same, you know, Right,

2309
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:22,720
Speaker 1: all right, Luke here's some celebrities in the wild. Check

2310
01:45:22,720 --> 01:45:25,920
Speaker 1: out Utah Jazz Center. Rudy Gobert at seven foot one

2311
01:45:26,360 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 1: trying out his hands.

2312
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:31,880
Speaker 2: Your thoughts here, Luke, is that Sebastian Fundora?

2313
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:33,000
Speaker 1: Sure ain't stephen A.

2314
01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 2: Smith.

2315
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:34,920
Speaker 1: We got to zoom in here, We got to zoom

2316
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 1: in on this ship.

2317
01:45:35,640 --> 01:45:39,000
Speaker 2: I mean, this dude's an athlete, no doubt about it. God,

2318
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:40,599
Speaker 2: he is big as shit man.

2319
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, he is not bad, not bad, Luke.

2320
01:45:44,320 --> 01:45:46,519
Speaker 2: I mean he's got, he's got, He's a little something there.

2321
01:45:47,000 --> 01:45:51,960
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Luke, your boy Cristiano Ronaldo getting it done

2322
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,240
Speaker 1: in the weight room. But you know why, Luke, everyone

2323
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:56,080
Speaker 1: sent me this. How are you going to defend your

2324
01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:56,679
Speaker 1: boy now?

2325
01:45:57,240 --> 01:46:00,080
Speaker 2: I don't know, dude, how many elite pros have to

2326
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 2: right you and me, which they've done telling you that

2327
01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:05,800
Speaker 2: real motherfuckers don't. But by the way, I see the

2328
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:09,719
Speaker 2: penis outline. I have to wear, have to wear. Sorry,

2329
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 2: don't ever wear gloves. I don't know why you get this.

2330
01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:15,599
Speaker 1: I see you Ronaldo's hog, I see you hone all though.

2331
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, if you're a real dude, you don't wear gloves.

2332
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:21,360
Speaker 2: That's just the beginning and the end of it. I've

2333
01:46:21,400 --> 01:46:23,240
Speaker 2: also said it fucks with your grips. So if you're

2334
01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:26,519
Speaker 2: actually trying to work on your grip, take the gloves off, Luke.

2335
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:29,760
Speaker 1: You know NBA champion Steph Curry. Uh did you see

2336
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:31,439
Speaker 1: that series? By the way they beat my Celtics. It

2337
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:32,719
Speaker 1: was painful, Luke. You know what I'm saying.

2338
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:35,160
Speaker 2: But I watched three of the games, Yeah, and they

2339
01:46:35,160 --> 01:46:37,439
Speaker 2: were all no. One of them was the Celtics one game,

2340
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 2: the turnout game, the Celtics one good.

2341
01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,759
Speaker 1: Turnout at that victory parade in San franz though, despite

2342
01:46:42,800 --> 01:46:45,080
Speaker 1: the DA and all that situation over there, Luke, let's

2343
01:46:45,080 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 1: talk about Steph Curry's wife, I ABC, what about him?

2344
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:50,519
Speaker 1: Dangerous times?

2345
01:46:50,560 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 2: Luke.

2346
01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:54,760
Speaker 1: Aisha Curry in the weight room, Luke, check the technique this.

2347
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:03,040
Speaker 2: So that is a trapbar deadlift, but that's not a

2348
01:47:03,080 --> 01:47:05,679
Speaker 2: full deadlift, so she's lifting off of blocks so she's

2349
01:47:05,760 --> 01:47:06,840
Speaker 2: low address.

2350
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:10,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's also in the uniform dress, Luke, a jersey there,

2351
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:14,360
Speaker 1: so uh, well done there, Just the same Aisha, Aisha,

2352
01:47:14,880 --> 01:47:15,720
Speaker 1: So glad to meet you.

2353
01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:19,559
Speaker 2: Right? Who was that? That was Bobby Brown? And what

2354
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:20,320
Speaker 2: was the ABC?

2355
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:25,639
Speaker 1: Another another bad creation? Right, Chris rock read Dave Row Yeah, dude,

2356
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 1: that I'm telling you. It's a nostalgic urn. But I

2357
01:47:28,360 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 1: found that cassette tape and I popped it in a

2358
01:47:30,000 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. That things still it still moves me. Luke,

2359
01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 1: right playground, Do you have a cassette player? I do?

2360
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:36,800
Speaker 1: I have one left?

2361
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:38,680
Speaker 2: I have one left? Yes? Wow, even I don't have

2362
01:47:38,720 --> 01:47:40,000
Speaker 2: that ship. Yeah.

2363
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 1: And now I'm a big vinyl guy though. By the way,

2364
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:45,639
Speaker 1: my dad is arriving this this weekend, Luke to deliver

2365
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 1: me his vinyl collection that I was not allowed to

2366
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:51,880
Speaker 1: touch growing up, that I worship and idolized. He was

2367
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:53,800
Speaker 1: gonna leave it to me, but then he said, you

2368
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:55,600
Speaker 1: know what, while I'm alive, why not just give it

2369
01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:57,120
Speaker 1: to you. Look, that's a big moment.

2370
01:47:57,160 --> 01:48:00,240
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a that's like a let me say something too.

2371
01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:03,559
Speaker 2: That is a big moment. That's very nice of your dad,

2372
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:05,479
Speaker 2: by the way, and smart of him too, Like someone

2373
01:48:05,520 --> 01:48:07,519
Speaker 2: will take good care of it. Dude. I will tell

2374
01:48:07,520 --> 01:48:09,640
Speaker 2: you this. I was digging through my front closet and

2375
01:48:09,720 --> 01:48:12,360
Speaker 2: my entrance and I hadn't done that in a long time.

2376
01:48:12,439 --> 01:48:15,880
Speaker 2: I found a bunch of old baseball cards, so I'm

2377
01:48:15,880 --> 01:48:18,519
Speaker 2: gonna say this. If you're a collector like your comic

2378
01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 2: book guy from the Simpsons, go fuck yourself. But if

2379
01:48:21,160 --> 01:48:23,639
Speaker 2: you actually have a kid and you and your kid

2380
01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:27,400
Speaker 2: collect I'll send them to your for free. So email

2381
01:48:27,479 --> 01:48:30,600
Speaker 2: the show Morningcombat at gmail dot com. You got to

2382
01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:32,599
Speaker 2: prove that you and your kid or at least your

2383
01:48:32,680 --> 01:48:35,160
Speaker 2: kid collects. I want to send them to a kid.

2384
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:38,719
Speaker 2: I'm not sending you to some fucking stupid ass adult

2385
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:40,840
Speaker 2: who goes to comic con and ships his pants or

2386
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 2: whatever at the sight of you know, Patrick Stewart. I

2387
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 2: want an actual, like nerded kid who's into like collecting cards.

2388
01:48:49,680 --> 01:48:51,320
Speaker 2: Email the show. I'll send them to you for free.

2389
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:54,600
Speaker 1: They're going to be all you know then all they're a.

2390
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:57,600
Speaker 2: Pretty good condition. And there's a Jose can say a

2391
01:48:57,680 --> 01:48:59,800
Speaker 2: Rookie card in there too. How about that shit?

2392
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:02,360
Speaker 1: Do you have the Billy rip came on with a

2393
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:03,719
Speaker 1: swear on the handle?

2394
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:05,719
Speaker 2: You know? No, no, I don't. I have a Michael

2395
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 2: Jordan Rookie card from Fleer back in the day in

2396
01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 2: there as well.

2397
01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:11,400
Speaker 1: So there's there's some.

2398
01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:14,640
Speaker 2: Decent cards in there. I had one. I also had

2399
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:16,360
Speaker 2: had oil can Boyd remember him?

2400
01:49:16,479 --> 01:49:20,559
Speaker 1: Oh yeah? I love the love the bougar shugar. Yes, yeah, yeah,

2401
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:23,200
Speaker 1: Dennis Boyd big time. Even though he's a Red Sox guy,

2402
01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:24,479
Speaker 1: and I was a big Mets fan. I always loved

2403
01:49:24,479 --> 01:49:26,679
Speaker 1: that guy, Luke because he was living on the edge.

2404
01:49:26,680 --> 01:49:28,920
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Sure was all right? Back

2405
01:49:28,920 --> 01:49:31,800
Speaker 1: to celebrities in the wild. Here's some elder abuse for you, Luke.

2406
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:34,600
Speaker 1: Speaking of our nation's capital. Here's the king of the

2407
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:36,120
Speaker 1: nation's capital at the moment.

2408
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 2: Oh god, this poor bastard.

2409
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:41,479
Speaker 1: Joe Biden on his bike in Delaware and.

2410
01:49:41,720 --> 01:49:45,040
Speaker 2: Joe, you gotta take your right foot out of the stirrup, homie.

2411
01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 2: What are you doing there, you old bastard.

2412
01:49:47,439 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, this didn't look good. This didn't look good.

2413
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:52,599
Speaker 2: I mean it's like, dude, it's like, you know, gas

2414
01:49:52,640 --> 01:49:56,559
Speaker 2: prices are skyrocketing and foods expensive, and this fucker can't

2415
01:49:56,560 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 2: even dismount a bike.

2416
01:49:58,040 --> 01:50:00,439
Speaker 1: Oh god, no, dude, I mean, come on, I couldn't

2417
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:02,800
Speaker 1: get one meal under one hundred bucks in DC because

2418
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:05,000
Speaker 1: of this guy Luke. Probably all right, there you go.

2419
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:07,720
Speaker 1: Let's go over to the rain Man. When I say

2420
01:50:07,760 --> 01:50:12,120
Speaker 1: the rain Man, who do you think of Luke Dustin Hoffman? No, dude,

2421
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:15,679
Speaker 1: By our our nineties hero Seawan Kemp. Come on, dude,

2422
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 1: the one of the greatest in game dunkers.

2423
01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:20,760
Speaker 2: Sorry an NBA history. I thought you met a guy

2424
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:23,120
Speaker 2: who had ten thousand kids when you said Sean Camp

2425
01:50:23,160 --> 01:50:23,720
Speaker 2: not rain Man.

2426
01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:26,680
Speaker 1: Well, Luke, remember he got fat during the lockout in

2427
01:50:26,720 --> 01:50:30,240
Speaker 1: the ninety eight ninety nine season and never recovered unfortunately, Luke.

2428
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:32,960
Speaker 1: Look at him now, look at him now throwing out

2429
01:50:32,960 --> 01:50:37,040
Speaker 1: the first pitch at the UH at the Mariners game, and.

2430
01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:41,599
Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, Sean, Oh, Shawn's on that. Shawn's on that.

2431
01:50:41,640 --> 01:50:43,760
Speaker 2: Trick Daddy diet Huh.

2432
01:50:43,280 --> 01:50:45,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah he is. I mean they had to show

2433
01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:47,160
Speaker 1: up with the medium jersey for him too. Luca, was

2434
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:48,360
Speaker 1: that was that was not flat.

2435
01:50:48,360 --> 01:50:50,519
Speaker 2: For folks who'll get the reference there BC and I

2436
01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:51,960
Speaker 2: went to what Way and was it? Oh, you know what?

2437
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:54,080
Speaker 2: It was the Madweather logan Paul Way in Yes, and

2438
01:50:54,120 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 2: it was in Miami, and trick Daddy came out, old

2439
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 2: trick has been not working out. I could say that.

2440
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:02,920
Speaker 1: Very You're actually nervous. When you me and Brendan Shoup

2441
01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:04,960
Speaker 1: were making fun of him on the air, you were like, well, guys,

2442
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:06,720
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm part of this here, I mean,

2443
01:51:06,920 --> 01:51:08,639
Speaker 1: trick Daddy'll still fuck up right.

2444
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:10,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he's actually he's not a pretty good too,

2445
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:12,679
Speaker 2: but he's been he's been even.

2446
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:15,519
Speaker 1: All right, Luke. Celebrities in the wild. Uh, one of

2447
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:18,840
Speaker 1: my favorite fighters of all time. Betch koheia enjoying retirement

2448
01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:22,160
Speaker 1: here with a with a saucy ig dance, Luke. This

2449
01:51:22,240 --> 01:51:22,599
Speaker 1: year thing?

2450
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:26,479
Speaker 2: Did she get surgery or she had like a filter on?

2451
01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:29,400
Speaker 1: I will not say stuff like that out loud, Luke.

2452
01:51:29,439 --> 01:51:31,760
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Check me on my Patreon later.

2453
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 2: Dude, I don't understand, Like, let me ask you. If

2454
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:39,519
Speaker 2: you go through TikTok, what I've noticed is it's just

2455
01:51:39,720 --> 01:51:43,160
Speaker 2: a bunch of women in tight clothing dancing in front

2456
01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 2: of you. Yeah, who are they dancing for? Because I

2457
01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:50,040
Speaker 2: gotta tell you, I don't need to see any of it.

2458
01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:54,720
Speaker 1: Probably our kids, Luke. Unfortunately, right, you know, yeah, you're

2459
01:51:54,760 --> 01:51:55,160
Speaker 1: so right.

2460
01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:57,000
Speaker 2: But I'm always like, you know, if you're I'm not

2461
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:58,639
Speaker 2: saying she's a ten, but you know, there's a bunch

2462
01:51:58,680 --> 01:52:01,320
Speaker 2: of tens or eight, nine and ten on on on TikTok.

2463
01:52:01,640 --> 01:52:04,439
Speaker 2: It's like, dude, if you're a ten, just stand there

2464
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:06,679
Speaker 2: and turn around. You don't have to do shit else?

2465
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 2: Why are you demand more? I'm like, you know, make

2466
01:52:09,280 --> 01:52:11,360
Speaker 2: me a sandwich too, Luke. Okay, help me raise this

2467
01:52:11,479 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 2: SAand all right, they're going to sell it and I'm

2468
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:15,040
Speaker 2: going to consume it as a consumer. I have a

2469
01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:16,400
Speaker 2: right to give some consumer feedback.

2470
01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:21,000
Speaker 1: All right, Okay, okay, big betchka fan. Luke always brought it. Okay, Luke,

2471
01:52:21,080 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 1: Let's go to Saudi Arabia. The Alexander Usik Anthony Joshua

2472
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:27,000
Speaker 1: rematches booked. I forgot the date.

2473
01:52:27,000 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 2: What is it?

2474
01:52:27,320 --> 01:52:29,559
Speaker 1: August something, August twentieth, Yeah.

2475
01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 2: Look at him. Date as UFC two. So that's gonna

2476
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:31,960
Speaker 2: be a big day UFC.

2477
01:52:32,080 --> 01:52:35,240
Speaker 1: Yes, Salt Lake City the same night. This hopefully will

2478
01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 1: air in the afternoon. But here's the face off, Luke.

2479
01:52:38,400 --> 01:52:41,559
Speaker 1: The size difference still still pretty big, Luke, Still pretty big?

2480
01:52:41,560 --> 01:52:44,400
Speaker 2: There? Did they talk about the murder of Jamal Kashoji?

2481
01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:47,760
Speaker 1: That did not come up on the the questions there

2482
01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:49,240
Speaker 1: for old and you hear me.

2483
01:52:49,360 --> 01:52:52,240
Speaker 2: The media in Saudi Arabia didn't bring it up. I

2484
01:52:52,760 --> 01:52:54,440
Speaker 2: wonder why I cannot imagine.

2485
01:52:54,720 --> 01:52:58,120
Speaker 1: Look, I hope aj under Robert Garcia is going to start,

2486
01:52:58,200 --> 01:52:59,680
Speaker 1: is going to bring the fight to Usik. It's going

2487
01:52:59,720 --> 01:53:02,080
Speaker 1: to be an interesting fight if he does very interesting.

2488
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:06,120
Speaker 2: All right, Oh, here we go face forward. Yeah, bro Eddie,

2489
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 2: I always forget how tall Eddie Hearn is.

2490
01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:12,040
Speaker 1: Dude, six foot seven. No one remembers that did Yeah.

2491
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:14,639
Speaker 2: No, no, no, because Josh was only six to six.

2492
01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:18,120
Speaker 1: Dude, Eddie hern goes by six seven. I asked him

2493
01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:19,679
Speaker 1: on the air. He says six to seven, dude.

2494
01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 2: And Max Holloway's arms are shrinking.

2495
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:25,240
Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, indeed, All right, Luke, let's go to the

2496
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:28,639
Speaker 1: knockouts of the week. We start with former Mike Tyson

2497
01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:33,680
Speaker 1: opponent back in his boxing days. Julius Francis now a

2498
01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:37,599
Speaker 1: a parking lot attendant outside of box Park Wembley as

2499
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:41,840
Speaker 1: a security guard. Luke, Julius Francis is in the black right.

2500
01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:43,120
Speaker 2: There, right, he's the guy on the left of the

2501
01:53:43,120 --> 01:53:45,320
Speaker 2: screen you just saw briefly. He kind of had a

2502
01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:46,160
Speaker 2: big belly.

2503
01:53:46,479 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 1: And he's doing security at at Wembley Box Park. Here,

2504
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:53,120
Speaker 1: and the fellow you want to watch closely is what

2505
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:54,080
Speaker 1: the guy in the blue cap.

2506
01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, so watch him. The guy who's the boxer is

2507
01:53:58,280 --> 01:54:01,479
Speaker 2: the one who's now walking around to the back with

2508
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:03,280
Speaker 2: the security vest on you see him to the ride

2509
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:05,400
Speaker 2: of your screen. Now he's gone, and my man in

2510
01:54:05,439 --> 01:54:08,080
Speaker 2: the blue just rolled up on him and pow.

2511
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:11,960
Speaker 1: Oh god that wow. That is uh. I mean, you know,

2512
01:54:13,880 --> 01:54:15,040
Speaker 1: was that necessary, Luke?

2513
01:54:15,120 --> 01:54:17,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. Okay, so I'm so glad you asked that.

2514
01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:23,680
Speaker 2: Was it necessary? No? Was it justified entirely? Dude, do

2515
01:54:23,840 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 2: not walk up aggressively on a security guy outside of

2516
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:30,519
Speaker 2: a bar. They will fuck your world up.

2517
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,440
Speaker 1: You speaking from experience as an X spouncer, Luca, is

2518
01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:35,000
Speaker 1: there no such thing as xpouncers.

2519
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:38,320
Speaker 2: I'm mostly diffuse situations or like kept people safe. I

2520
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:40,920
Speaker 2: didn't like jack People's jaw, but I saw plenty of

2521
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:43,440
Speaker 2: other guys do it, plenty of du Dude, you cannot.

2522
01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:46,280
Speaker 2: They'll they'll get they get big heads from drinking, they

2523
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:48,720
Speaker 2: get thrown out, and they want to test themselves. And

2524
01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:51,960
Speaker 2: it's the same Onion article every time Area man overestimates

2525
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:56,360
Speaker 2: fighting ability by five thousand percent. Dude, don't do it.

2526
01:54:56,800 --> 01:54:59,280
Speaker 2: This guy, everyone was like he was just walking Watch

2527
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:01,080
Speaker 2: it again. He kind of walks up and he's talking

2528
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:02,560
Speaker 2: to him like that, and he got his ship rocked

2529
01:55:02,600 --> 01:55:04,800
Speaker 2: for it. I don't I don't blame the bouncer even

2530
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:05,280
Speaker 2: a little bit.

2531
01:55:05,720 --> 01:55:07,800
Speaker 1: He kind of looked like remember that fan in the

2532
01:55:07,800 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 1: Pistons Jersey rumbled onto the court on our test at

2533
01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:13,240
Speaker 1: the Palace brawl. They kind of sized each other up

2534
01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:14,480
Speaker 1: and then they both threw combos.

2535
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:17,040
Speaker 2: Look looking aggressively at him, and he puts it. He

2536
01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:19,240
Speaker 2: brings his hand up to put it as well. Dude,

2537
01:55:19,280 --> 01:55:19,880
Speaker 2: fuck that guy.

2538
01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 1: No, I just mean this guy's got a lethal weapon

2539
01:55:22,800 --> 01:55:24,960
Speaker 1: in that right hand, Luke, and he Wow, he brought it.

2540
01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:25,680
Speaker 1: He did bring it.

2541
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:27,760
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what, that guy in the blue learned

2542
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 2: a real valuable lesson about where he stands in the

2543
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:32,920
Speaker 2: pecking order that day. That will help him in the future.

2544
01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:35,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true. That is true. Hopefully you and

2545
01:55:35,600 --> 01:55:36,920
Speaker 1: I don't catch those same receipts.

2546
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:39,520
Speaker 2: No, no, but I'm not gonna if I got thrown

2547
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:41,280
Speaker 2: out of a bar, dude. You know way times I've

2548
01:55:41,280 --> 01:55:44,600
Speaker 2: been thrown out of a bar peacefully, Like that's not new.

2549
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 1: Also, your your choices for Knockout of the Week, Luke

2550
01:55:48,680 --> 01:55:52,640
Speaker 1: includes this, uh punk outside the train. If you watch

2551
01:55:52,720 --> 01:55:53,640
Speaker 1: closely here.

2552
01:55:56,120 --> 01:55:57,400
Speaker 2: What the fuck are these?

2553
01:55:57,800 --> 01:56:06,560
Speaker 1: Oh ah, that's great, that is great. Let's go to

2554
01:56:06,720 --> 01:56:10,400
Speaker 1: virtual reality goggles for our next Knockout of the Week contender, Luke.

2555
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:13,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody who's ever tried this has done this

2556
01:56:13,120 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 1: at least once. Oh wow, wow it works. Yep, confirmed

2557
01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:25,240
Speaker 1: it works. There it is, Luke. Indeed, Yeah, that's great.

2558
01:56:25,960 --> 01:56:28,400
Speaker 1: Uh let's go over to the sidewalk, Luke. You get

2559
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:31,280
Speaker 1: two drunk eyes together, anyone can anything can happen. How

2560
01:56:31,280 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 1: about this for a contender for Knockout of the week.

2561
01:56:34,920 --> 01:56:36,720
Speaker 2: Uh? Oh are we about to are we about to

2562
01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:38,800
Speaker 2: watch Cormier Jones two? Here?

2563
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:39,640
Speaker 1: Oh?

2564
01:56:39,680 --> 01:56:43,880
Speaker 2: Shitt looking for the drink though, I know my man,

2565
01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:45,920
Speaker 2: My man's trying hard to save that guinness.

2566
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:48,520
Speaker 1: God, he got splattered.

2567
01:56:48,560 --> 01:56:51,360
Speaker 2: Dude, he's like, pour out this Bodington.

2568
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:55,160
Speaker 1: Wow, that was probably like eight am two, knowing those

2569
01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:58,080
Speaker 1: knowing those guys, Luke. All right, Also, how about this?

2570
01:56:58,080 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 1: This is probably your knock out of the week. And

2571
01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:03,280
Speaker 1: they got two with one stone, Luke, or maybe two stone,

2572
01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:05,520
Speaker 1: or maybe I was two stone. Look at this, damn

2573
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 1: this looks like low level bare knuckle fighting. Luke. I

2574
01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:13,160
Speaker 1: don't even know if that's the thing, because isn't it

2575
01:57:13,200 --> 01:57:14,120
Speaker 1: all low level? Luke?

2576
01:57:16,240 --> 01:57:20,800
Speaker 2: You mean, like just like just regular old bare knuckle Yeah, like.

2577
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:24,040
Speaker 1: This looks like gross pornography. Oh wait, yeah, well yeah.

2578
01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:26,440
Speaker 2: That oh god, that is terrible.

2579
01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:29,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. Let's go though to our joke of the week. Luke,

2580
01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:30,839
Speaker 1: let's hear from this old best.

2581
01:57:30,680 --> 01:57:32,000
Speaker 2: Room said to a girl, why not?

2582
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:36,080
Speaker 1: I said, you've got a card, Jeet, and she kept

2583
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:37,920
Speaker 1: look at that means, what do you mean they're going.

2584
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:38,680
Speaker 2: To a card? Jeet?

2585
01:57:38,920 --> 01:57:40,600
Speaker 1: I said, the card that you know, I'd like to

2586
01:57:40,760 --> 01:57:52,280
Speaker 1: risk me bones. Looks like I'll vape to that. Yep, yep,

2587
01:57:52,360 --> 01:57:52,800
Speaker 1: I will.

2588
01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:57,800
Speaker 2: That's every guy in the that's every old man in

2589
01:57:57,880 --> 01:58:02,480
Speaker 2: the gym bathroom. Right, yes, that's everything except their naked

2590
01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:03,800
Speaker 2: walking around with shoes.

2591
01:58:03,560 --> 01:58:07,960
Speaker 1: On am I right, Dallas, Yes, indeed, Luke rate this flex.

2592
01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 1: A lot of people try weird shit in terms of

2593
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:17,680
Speaker 1: lifting videos. How about barefoot deadlift against everyone's worst nightmare,

2594
01:58:17,960 --> 01:58:19,480
Speaker 1: the loose legos.

2595
01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:22,560
Speaker 2: Luke, dude, I can't stand people who do this shit.

2596
01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:23,440
Speaker 2: Fuck this guy.

2597
01:58:25,120 --> 01:58:27,360
Speaker 1: You do know that's a pain. That is a pain

2598
01:58:27,440 --> 01:58:28,400
Speaker 1: unlike any other Luke.

2599
01:58:28,440 --> 01:58:31,160
Speaker 2: You know that that's an outrageous pain, Dude. Like Instagram

2600
01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:36,919
Speaker 2: and social media have turned lifting into like circus performing,

2601
01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 2: but not even the good kind, just the jackass variety

2602
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:41,680
Speaker 2: and it's not all that interesting. Fuck these guys.

2603
01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:44,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's keep it going, all right? Rate this tat, Luke.

2604
01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:46,280
Speaker 1: This was so weird I had to include it. I

2605
01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:48,600
Speaker 1: hope it's not real your thoughts.

2606
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:55,200
Speaker 2: You gotta be shitting me. Someone did not do this,

2607
01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:58,040
Speaker 2: did they? Are you fucking kidding?

2608
01:59:02,560 --> 01:59:06,480
Speaker 1: Yikesh? Just yeah, just did it?

2609
01:59:06,600 --> 01:59:06,800
Speaker 2: Luke.

2610
01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:11,440
Speaker 1: That's uh, all right, let's keep back. Let's look out.

2611
01:59:12,040 --> 01:59:14,760
Speaker 2: I'm seriously stunned looking at that, Like, I am actually

2612
01:59:14,800 --> 01:59:16,080
Speaker 2: shocked that someone went through with that.

2613
01:59:16,800 --> 01:59:18,680
Speaker 1: Somebody got their fifteen seconds, Luke.

2614
01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:20,760
Speaker 2: Okay, you know what I will say this. My man's

2615
01:59:20,760 --> 01:59:23,760
Speaker 2: toes are better space than mine. Mine are all fucked up.

2616
01:59:24,560 --> 01:59:26,840
Speaker 1: So are mine, Luke. But that's because I'm a real man.

2617
01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:29,680
Speaker 2: No, it's just because you are dirty and you have fungus,

2618
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:30,640
Speaker 2: you old piece of shit.

2619
01:59:30,760 --> 01:59:33,440
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's those tell the story of the miles

2620
01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:36,640
Speaker 1: I've logged, Luke, up and down. Life's you know, valleys

2621
01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:37,440
Speaker 1: and peaks.

2622
01:59:37,160 --> 01:59:38,480
Speaker 2: And right now, yeah, any khakis.

2623
01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:41,680
Speaker 1: Right now we're peeking at the beacon, Luke. Let's go

2624
01:59:41,680 --> 01:59:43,680
Speaker 1: to our fans of the week. Check out these young

2625
01:59:43,720 --> 01:59:46,880
Speaker 1: boys behind the Reggie Miller at the NBA game. Luke,

2626
01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:56,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if coach Sandusky would know who got

2627
01:59:56,160 --> 01:59:57,360
Speaker 1: a hold of this, Luke, I don't know if we

2628
01:59:57,400 --> 01:59:58,200
Speaker 1: can legally.

2629
01:59:57,920 --> 01:59:59,840
Speaker 2: Show that, but I cannot believe you just made that joke.

2630
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:05,680
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, was this was also me at eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen, twenty,

2631
02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:07,240
Speaker 2: twenty three years old.

2632
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:10,320
Speaker 1: You've had a sordid pass, Luke, we all know about that.

2633
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:12,880
Speaker 1: Let's go to this. This this fan, though he may

2634
02:00:12,920 --> 02:00:14,720
Speaker 1: be our real fan of the week, check him out

2635
02:00:14,720 --> 02:00:16,240
Speaker 1: behind the rugby player.

2636
02:00:18,800 --> 02:00:20,680
Speaker 2: Bro, These rugby players are jacked as shit.

2637
02:00:21,280 --> 02:00:26,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a shoey from his own vessel? Damn respect.

2638
02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:28,520
Speaker 2: Is there a bigger difference between a rugby player and

2639
02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:31,440
Speaker 2: a rugby fan than this shot right here? Yeah?

2640
02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great, that's great. All right, let's let's go out.

2641
02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:36,480
Speaker 1: Let's get out of this. Let's keep it going. Summertime, Luke,

2642
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:39,920
Speaker 1: you know that means pool fails only. Check out this

2643
02:00:40,360 --> 02:00:43,480
Speaker 1: female influencer trying to catch a snapshot of mid chaos.

2644
02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:49,960
Speaker 2: Luke. What do they spring them with? Uh?

2645
02:00:50,160 --> 02:00:56,160
Speaker 1: Probably expensive champagne. There you go, there, have a drink.

2646
02:00:57,600 --> 02:01:00,360
Speaker 1: Hopefully she caught the shot. Before she fell in. Luke,

2647
02:01:00,400 --> 02:01:02,640
Speaker 1: there you go. Oh, let's go over. Anytime they put

2648
02:01:02,640 --> 02:01:04,800
Speaker 1: a trampoline next to a pool, Luke, it's like they're

2649
02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:08,000
Speaker 1: setting the stage to end up in this segment. First

2650
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:10,880
Speaker 1: we'll check their their skin inflection, and then we'll see

2651
02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:17,120
Speaker 1: the result. Luke. Oh Jesus. Yeah. If you feel like

2652
02:01:17,160 --> 02:01:19,720
Speaker 1: we've played this one before, it's because there's a few

2653
02:01:19,880 --> 02:01:21,080
Speaker 1: like it. But it's still hurt.

2654
02:01:21,160 --> 02:01:27,480
Speaker 2: Luke. Wow, bro enjoy yo. I've never seen someone with

2655
02:01:27,600 --> 02:01:30,560
Speaker 2: that much of a boost have that little amount of ups. Also,

2656
02:01:30,680 --> 02:01:31,960
Speaker 2: enjoy your above ground pool.

2657
02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:36,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's go to the diving board, Luke

2658
02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:39,040
Speaker 1: for a final failure by the water this week.

2659
02:01:42,880 --> 02:01:46,720
Speaker 2: Oh oh this heavy set, gentlemen. Oh fuck off? Oh yeah,

2660
02:01:46,760 --> 02:01:47,280
Speaker 2: there you go.

2661
02:01:49,880 --> 02:01:51,600
Speaker 1: There you go, all right, keeping it.

2662
02:01:51,680 --> 02:01:54,400
Speaker 2: He learned a valuable lesson in physics that day.

2663
02:01:55,240 --> 02:01:57,160
Speaker 1: I would say this would probably cost more than your

2664
02:01:57,200 --> 02:01:59,680
Speaker 1: eighty five dollars variety, But you know that Dubai barber

2665
02:01:59,720 --> 02:02:02,920
Speaker 1: that I follow on Instagram. The alternate Luke Thomas was

2666
02:02:02,960 --> 02:02:04,920
Speaker 1: back in his chair this week. Luke, I'm gonna put

2667
02:02:04,960 --> 02:02:06,840
Speaker 1: this guy on every week until you get this thin.

2668
02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:09,280
Speaker 1: Check out this handsome devil.

2669
02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:11,360
Speaker 2: I know he is way more handsome. I mean that's

2670
02:02:11,400 --> 02:02:14,240
Speaker 2: not saying much, but he is, dude that much.

2671
02:02:14,280 --> 02:02:14,480
Speaker 1: You think?

2672
02:02:14,480 --> 02:02:16,600
Speaker 2: How serious question? How much you think that haircut cost?

2673
02:02:17,080 --> 02:02:18,840
Speaker 1: Oh at four thousand at least?

2674
02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's that's that's a that's a ridiculously

2675
02:02:21,600 --> 02:02:22,440
Speaker 2: expensive haircut.

2676
02:02:22,760 --> 02:02:25,640
Speaker 1: This guy's like the Salt Bay of of barbers.

2677
02:02:25,720 --> 02:02:28,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, serious question. How handsome could he make me? And

2678
02:02:28,360 --> 02:02:30,360
Speaker 2: I realize he's working with a gob of shit, but

2679
02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:34,040
Speaker 2: I'm saying, what could how much could he improve me?

2680
02:02:34,080 --> 02:02:35,520
Speaker 2: Could he take me from a four to a five?

2681
02:02:35,640 --> 02:02:39,680
Speaker 1: You think you ever see the movie soul Man, Luke no, oh,

2682
02:02:39,760 --> 02:02:43,000
Speaker 1: all right with ce Thomas Hall. I think he could

2683
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:45,280
Speaker 1: take you pretty high. Luke, Okay, but you've got to commit.

2684
02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:47,320
Speaker 1: You've got to You've got to commit to Cardio. Are

2685
02:02:47,320 --> 02:02:47,760
Speaker 1: you ready?

2686
02:02:48,680 --> 02:02:50,760
Speaker 2: I'm ready? Not really? Yes? All right?

2687
02:02:51,400 --> 02:02:53,000
Speaker 1: T Shirt of the week. Luke is going to go

2688
02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:55,240
Speaker 1: to this dirty old bastard. You guessed it. Let's zoom

2689
02:02:55,240 --> 02:03:05,000
Speaker 1: in here. He's so casual about it too, Luke, Right.

2690
02:03:05,200 --> 02:03:08,880
Speaker 2: Dude, look at him rolling around scratching his gross elbows.

2691
02:03:10,280 --> 02:03:14,720
Speaker 1: Just he's like, I got an itchy boil over. You

2692
02:03:14,760 --> 02:03:17,960
Speaker 1: can sit on that too, all right, Let's keep it going, Luke.

2693
02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:20,640
Speaker 1: When you exercise out of the gym, sometimes you get hurt.

2694
02:03:20,680 --> 02:03:22,560
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful here. Let's go to the bathroom

2695
02:03:22,600 --> 02:03:23,480
Speaker 1: box jump attempt.

2696
02:03:26,720 --> 02:03:29,480
Speaker 2: Fuck this kid, yep, yep.

2697
02:03:30,520 --> 02:03:33,560
Speaker 1: And of course everybody's favorite, the BMX bike in the

2698
02:03:33,600 --> 02:03:34,800
Speaker 1: bar routine, Luke.

2699
02:03:35,120 --> 02:03:42,000
Speaker 2: Keep jumping up on surfaces known for collecting water, jack Ass. Yeah,

2700
02:03:42,040 --> 02:03:44,280
Speaker 2: oh yeah, dude, I can't believe he's white. B See,

2701
02:03:44,320 --> 02:03:47,600
Speaker 2: it seems so out of character, Luke.

2702
02:03:47,640 --> 02:03:50,160
Speaker 1: Remember back to the future when the guy changed his

2703
02:03:50,280 --> 02:03:53,080
Speaker 1: past and then his brother started disappearing from the photo.

2704
02:03:54,200 --> 02:03:56,000
Speaker 1: It's kind of similar to my to the people in

2705
02:03:56,040 --> 02:03:59,000
Speaker 1: this category, Luke. Let's start with the Let's start with

2706
02:03:59,120 --> 02:04:00,800
Speaker 1: the uh A dance floor.

2707
02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:09,440
Speaker 2: Remember this move, Luke, yep. Oh shit, you had a

2708
02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:11,080
Speaker 2: nice college apartment. Fuck face.

2709
02:04:12,960 --> 02:04:15,840
Speaker 1: And let's continue to the bartender, Luk. A great bartender

2710
02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:18,720
Speaker 1: is like an NFL referee. You never knew they were there, Luke. Right,

2711
02:04:19,000 --> 02:04:19,600
Speaker 1: let's see this.

2712
02:04:23,600 --> 02:04:28,360
Speaker 2: Oh no, oh, what the fuck?

2713
02:04:30,000 --> 02:04:32,720
Speaker 1: They keep the kegs in the basement, Luke. Apparently, bro,

2714
02:04:32,760 --> 02:04:33,360
Speaker 1: there's a bar.

2715
02:04:33,600 --> 02:04:37,080
Speaker 2: What was on It's near Saint Mark's Place in near

2716
02:04:37,120 --> 02:04:40,920
Speaker 2: the Bowery in Manhattan. It used to be an old speakeasy.

2717
02:04:40,960 --> 02:04:43,480
Speaker 2: They haven't really changed it. So when you order a beer,

2718
02:04:43,560 --> 02:04:46,360
Speaker 2: the beers are next door, they're not at the actual place,

2719
02:04:46,640 --> 02:04:49,600
Speaker 2: and they come from the floor of Belding's. They open

2720
02:04:49,920 --> 02:04:51,840
Speaker 2: the floor and they pull out your bottle of beer

2721
02:04:51,840 --> 02:04:53,440
Speaker 2: and they hand it to you. I forget the name

2722
02:04:53,440 --> 02:04:54,680
Speaker 2: of it, but it was pretty cool.

2723
02:04:55,040 --> 02:04:57,880
Speaker 1: That's a different take on the Asian toilets with just

2724
02:04:57,880 --> 02:04:58,800
Speaker 1: being a hole in the floor.

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02:04:58,880 --> 02:05:02,680
Speaker 2: Luke, it's not just. It's not just Asian. Turkey is

2726
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:04,920
Speaker 2: in both Asia and Europe, but on the europe side,

2727
02:05:04,920 --> 02:05:06,840
Speaker 2: I've seen it there too, so it'll be clearical.

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02:05:06,880 --> 02:05:08,480
Speaker 1: It's an interesting way to do it, Luke. It's it

2729
02:05:08,480 --> 02:05:10,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't be for me, though it's not my I told you.

2730
02:05:10,640 --> 02:05:12,520
Speaker 2: The story, dude. I went to one of these places

2731
02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:15,480
Speaker 2: and they were charging one lira, which is like their currency,

2732
02:05:16,080 --> 02:05:18,480
Speaker 2: and for toilet paper. But the catch was they didn't

2733
02:05:18,520 --> 02:05:20,840
Speaker 2: have toilet paper. They were tearing sheets out of a

2734
02:05:20,880 --> 02:05:24,280
Speaker 2: phone book and handing you that, and I was like,

2735
02:05:24,480 --> 02:05:26,640
Speaker 2: I'll just ship my pants, thank you, sir. Have a

2736
02:05:26,640 --> 02:05:28,360
Speaker 2: great day.

2737
02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:32,680
Speaker 1: That's great. Diald G for Grundle Luke cleaned that ship up. Okay, uh,

2738
02:05:32,840 --> 02:05:34,800
Speaker 1: that's the ship. No, we got one more piece of shit.

2739
02:05:34,880 --> 02:05:36,760
Speaker 1: Let's see what it is here, Luke, it's an oldie

2740
02:05:36,760 --> 02:05:39,840
Speaker 1: buck goody. It's the pinata miss you know it's you know,

2741
02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:40,680
Speaker 1: it's coming next to.

2742
02:05:40,840 --> 02:05:42,680
Speaker 2: Someone's balls or some kid's head.

2743
02:05:44,120 --> 02:05:45,640
Speaker 1: Where's Ryan batter when you need them?

2744
02:05:45,680 --> 02:05:51,600
Speaker 2: Right, old nutsack, enjoy your gender reveal party, you dumb

2745
02:05:51,600 --> 02:05:52,320
Speaker 2: piece of ship.

2746
02:05:53,920 --> 02:05:56,240
Speaker 1: There It is all right, hey, Looke, we you want

2747
02:05:56,240 --> 02:05:58,520
Speaker 1: to push fans ups to Friday, or you want to

2748
02:05:58,520 --> 02:05:58,960
Speaker 1: do it now.

2749
02:05:59,080 --> 02:06:00,520
Speaker 2: We can push them to Friday if you want. Give

2750
02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:02,040
Speaker 2: audience a little more time to put.

2751
02:06:01,920 --> 02:06:04,360
Speaker 1: Some in because we gave them today, Luke. Just a

2752
02:06:04,640 --> 02:06:07,040
Speaker 1: outstanding comeback show from vacation.

2753
02:06:07,240 --> 02:06:09,560
Speaker 2: Right, we certainly did. We certainly did.

2754
02:06:09,680 --> 02:06:12,720
Speaker 1: I mean, the good news is I'm here, I'm back,

2755
02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:15,440
Speaker 1: will be in Vegas next week International Fight Week. The

2756
02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:17,480
Speaker 1: bad news is, though, Luke, I'm going back on vacation

2757
02:06:17,600 --> 02:06:19,840
Speaker 1: at the end of July. So all those people that

2758
02:06:19,960 --> 02:06:22,080
Speaker 1: shit on you, they're coming from me, Luke.

2759
02:06:23,640 --> 02:06:25,880
Speaker 2: Well, the only reason they should on me is because

2760
02:06:25,920 --> 02:06:29,240
Speaker 2: you have somehow manufactured some idea. I actually of you,

2761
02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:32,000
Speaker 2: me and our head producer. I take the least amount

2762
02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:34,400
Speaker 2: of vacation of all of us that's.

2763
02:06:34,240 --> 02:06:38,080
Speaker 1: Not fair because our producer likes to vacation every weekend,

2764
02:06:38,080 --> 02:06:38,800
Speaker 1: so that's not fair.

2765
02:06:38,960 --> 02:06:41,040
Speaker 2: That's true. Our lead producer. I'm like, hey, what are

2766
02:06:41,040 --> 02:06:42,840
Speaker 2: you doing on Friday? He's like, not working on this

2767
02:06:42,920 --> 02:06:51,000
Speaker 2: motherfucking show, bitch. He's in our chat right now, furiously

2768
02:06:51,080 --> 02:06:51,840
Speaker 2: typing away.

2769
02:06:52,440 --> 02:06:55,320
Speaker 1: Yes, yes he is, Yes, Yes, we love you, Michael,

2770
02:06:55,360 --> 02:06:58,960
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Luke. That's it though for this week. Okay, today,

2771
02:06:59,040 --> 02:07:01,360
Speaker 1: I mean today, that's it. But we've probably got great

2772
02:07:01,400 --> 02:07:03,720
Speaker 1: bonus content, like a resume review and some other ship.

2773
02:07:03,880 --> 02:07:05,720
Speaker 2: Let's remind the folks we do have bonus content. We

2774
02:07:05,720 --> 02:07:08,720
Speaker 2: have the Max Holloway resume review. I'm not it's supposed

2775
02:07:08,720 --> 02:07:11,360
Speaker 2: to be coming out. I want to say tomorrow, but soon.

2776
02:07:11,840 --> 02:07:14,800
Speaker 2: We're actually in the resume review. We promised that we

2777
02:07:14,800 --> 02:07:18,520
Speaker 2: were gonna watch the Volkanovsky Max fights one and two together,

2778
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:21,480
Speaker 2: score them and talk about them. That's coming out and

2779
02:07:21,560 --> 02:07:23,720
Speaker 2: just either a tomorrow or in a matter of days,

2780
02:07:23,800 --> 02:07:25,440
Speaker 2: be on the lookout for that. So that's gonna be

2781
02:07:25,480 --> 02:07:28,400
Speaker 2: coming out as well. Plus, as I indicated my Eblin interview,

2782
02:07:28,440 --> 02:07:31,000
Speaker 2: my Sabatllo interview, they're already up. You can check those out.

2783
02:07:32,080 --> 02:07:34,480
Speaker 2: Let's see also b C, let's remind the audience one

2784
02:07:34,480 --> 02:07:35,000
Speaker 2: more time.

2785
02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:37,720
Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on. Look, the best response on that

2786
02:07:37,800 --> 02:07:41,320
Speaker 1: on that Sabbatela interview was when you were like, Jesus Christ,

2787
02:07:41,360 --> 02:07:43,440
Speaker 1: you're a says. You were like you didn't know which turn,

2788
02:07:43,480 --> 02:07:44,960
Speaker 1: you don't know where to go next? Luke, it was

2789
02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:45,880
Speaker 1: just he back, just like.

2790
02:07:45,840 --> 02:07:48,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna torture this motherfucker. I'm gonna rip his heart out,

2791
02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:50,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna fucking take his kids, I'm gonna take his property.

2792
02:07:50,760 --> 02:07:52,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna move into his house and eat out of

2793
02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:55,360
Speaker 2: his fridge and not even thank him. I'm like, settle down,

2794
02:07:56,320 --> 02:07:58,040
Speaker 2: settle down, and so we're.

2795
02:07:57,880 --> 02:07:59,240
Speaker 1: Gonna make sweet love. Yeah.

2796
02:07:59,320 --> 02:08:02,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was I'm gonna turn this guy into a cuck. Oh.

2797
02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:05,960
Speaker 2: I was like, yo, time out, timeouts, just a five

2798
02:08:06,000 --> 02:08:09,640
Speaker 2: brouh okay. But I want to remind folks not not

2799
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:12,880
Speaker 2: this Friday, Friday July first, if you are going to

2800
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:15,920
Speaker 2: be in Las Vegas, join us. Go to the UFC

2801
02:08:15,960 --> 02:08:18,560
Speaker 2: two seventy six way ins. Then then come hang out

2802
02:08:18,600 --> 02:08:21,720
Speaker 2: with LT and BC at the beer House beer House

2803
02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:25,040
Speaker 2: right outside the C Mobile Arena. We'll start at about

2804
02:08:25,080 --> 02:08:27,480
Speaker 2: five o'clock. We're going to do a live show, special guests,

2805
02:08:27,720 --> 02:08:30,080
Speaker 2: spin the wheel, the whole nine yards. It'll be a

2806
02:08:30,120 --> 02:08:34,440
Speaker 2: ton of fun. Beer House, beer House, beer House, beer House,

2807
02:08:34,480 --> 02:08:37,960
Speaker 2: five pm Local time on Friday, July first. Can't say

2808
02:08:38,000 --> 02:08:40,560
Speaker 2: that enough. Let's see Showtime dot com is the label

2809
02:08:40,600 --> 02:08:42,040
Speaker 2: that pays. You can go to showtime dot com get

2810
02:08:42,040 --> 02:08:43,360
Speaker 2: a thirty day free trial. I feel like you can

2811
02:08:43,440 --> 02:08:45,200
Speaker 2: keep it. If not, you can pounce in. It will

2812
02:08:45,240 --> 02:08:47,720
Speaker 2: allow you to watch the very good belt or card

2813
02:08:48,040 --> 02:08:51,360
Speaker 2: on Friday. Bult War two eighty two. Let's see email

2814
02:08:51,400 --> 02:08:53,920
Speaker 2: the show, Morning commat at gmail dot com for fan

2815
02:08:54,000 --> 02:08:56,400
Speaker 2: subs and dead Wrong. We'll have both of those on Friday.

2816
02:08:56,480 --> 02:09:00,600
Speaker 2: Show and Morningcombat dot store to get the merched A's wearing,

2817
02:09:00,640 --> 02:09:02,560
Speaker 2: To get the merch that I'm wearing or whatever it is,

2818
02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:04,280
Speaker 2: the merch that you would like to wear be see

2819
02:09:04,280 --> 02:09:05,120
Speaker 2: any final thoughts.

2820
02:09:05,960 --> 02:09:08,400
Speaker 1: Uh no, but thank you to the great fan of

2821
02:09:08,400 --> 02:09:10,680
Speaker 1: this show who back us through everything, hides and lows.

2822
02:09:10,680 --> 02:09:12,120
Speaker 1: We hope you can make it to Vegas. We hope

2823
02:09:12,160 --> 02:09:14,240
Speaker 1: to you know, open mouth, kiss you, hug you, whatever

2824
02:09:14,280 --> 02:09:16,240
Speaker 1: whatever you're in the mood for. But uh, thank you

2825
02:09:16,240 --> 02:09:19,320
Speaker 1: folks for tuning in and you know we're back with

2826
02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:20,600
Speaker 1: this is the best thing. This is the this is

2827
02:09:20,640 --> 02:09:23,200
Speaker 1: the this is your best option. Talk yourself into that

2828
02:09:23,280 --> 02:09:25,400
Speaker 1: other bullshit. This is the best thing you got going

2829
02:09:25,480 --> 02:09:27,120
Speaker 1: love it or hate it, right, right, Luke. I mean

2830
02:09:27,160 --> 02:09:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be you know, the awards speak

2831
02:09:29,240 --> 02:09:31,440
Speaker 1: for themselves. You know, I don't care. It's just I'm

2832
02:09:31,480 --> 02:09:34,280
Speaker 1: just I'm just I'm just arting, right, you know what

2833
02:09:34,280 --> 02:09:36,280
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, you know, I don't care who watches Luke. Right,

2834
02:09:36,320 --> 02:09:38,320
Speaker 1: I really don't because I'm going to be doing this

2835
02:09:38,520 --> 02:09:40,440
Speaker 1: in my basement, whether there's a crowd or not.

2836
02:09:40,600 --> 02:09:47,760
Speaker 2: Luke, Okay, okay, all right, four Malka four b C

2837
02:09:48,400 --> 02:09:52,800
Speaker 2: four showtime for everyone involved in the show and CBS

2838
02:09:52,840 --> 02:09:54,960
Speaker 2: Sports in the whole nine yards. That's Brian Campbell and

2839
02:09:55,080 --> 02:09:56,800
Speaker 2: Luke Thomas. This has been Morning Combat. We'll talk to

2840
02:09:56,840 --> 02:09:59,760
Speaker 2: you guys again on Friday, and until then, all of

2841
02:09:59,800 --> 02:10:01,200
Speaker 2: your gains be loyal.