1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Welcome and everybody to a Friday edition of Texas All 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Access from the Hounday Texans Radio Studio. I am your 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: host for this Friday's proceedings, John Harris, Football Else's sideline 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: reporter for your I think I just said that again, 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: but it bears repeating. Football Else to solid report. Joining 6 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: me to kick off the show is my friend and 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: host of Dear Drew. Host of Texas three sixty is 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: Drew Doherty. What's up, Drew? How much I've sideline reported 9 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: on the TV? A little bit too? Yeah, I've done 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: a little bit of everything you've done. Marsha Sharp lad 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: Rader based basketball with Marsha Sharpos, the host of that 12 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 1: for her final season out there. Yeah, that different things. 13 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 1: Red Raiders Sports with Mike Leach us talking about Mike 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: Leach with West Welker yesterday, chit chatting about the old 15 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 1: Pirate himself. It was good to hear some of West's stories. 16 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: What what are West's remembrances of Leech? See, I would imagine, 17 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: you know it was it was you know, I don't 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: want to give away too much, but it was more 19 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: current day. Uh, he'd interacted with the coach and um, 20 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 1: it's just funny. I actually we were talking about that stuff, 21 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 1: and then I was telling him a story about how 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: on the show you could email in questions for the coach. 23 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 1: This is two thousand and five through two thousand and 24 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: eight that I did this. And every Wednesday after practice, 25 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: we'd go out there and we'd hand him this sheet 26 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: of paper with like nine questions from people on it, 27 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: and he would get it after practice was over, and 28 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: he'd take the pencil out from behind his ear and 29 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: he'd look at it and he'd go, that's a good question. 30 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: I've answered this question. I don't want to answer. That's 31 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: a stupid question. That's a dumb question too. Oh look 32 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: that's a good quote, Okay, all right, and then he 33 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: handed back Yeah. So he'd whittle it down from like 34 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: eight to about five. We'd ask all five and then 35 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: we'd put about four, three or four of them on 36 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: the show. So I was entertaining. He was the one. 37 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: One of them wound up being the one. Where are 38 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: you going to state? And he's like, suggest you take 39 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: her to a steakhouse so she can't eat a salad. 40 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: Wasn't there a particular place in Lubbick? He said, that's right. 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: We played that. So that was in two thousand. That 42 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: was two thousand and eight. I believe that was the 43 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: Sean Penner gas and I played that sound bite for ever. 44 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: I mean, we played that thing all the time. We 45 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: were huge, We were huge Leech fans when in two 46 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:31,239 Speaker 1: thousand and eight that year, and I've been part of 47 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: the Bear Bryan Awards since two thousand and seven since 48 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: I got back here, and so each year Sean and 49 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: I would have the opportunities. So now with the coaches 50 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: and in interviewed the coaches, and we interviewed. We interviewed 51 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: every single coach that went through there for I don't 52 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: know how many of her years, with the exception of one. 53 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: Nick Saban didn't want to do it. I don't know 54 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: if you didn't want to do it or I don't 55 00:02:50,480 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: know what it was, but he just didn't want to 56 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: do radio. So whatever. But we had Jim Kelly, we 57 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: had Jim Harbaugh, we had Mark man Gino, we had 58 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: Silvester Kroom, Gary Pinkel, and so two thousand and eight 59 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: was our biggest year. That day, we had Tom Osborne, 60 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 1: Barry Switzer, Jim Rossow, Bob Stoops, Mac Brown, Mike Leach, 61 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: it's good all on the show. And see Leech was 62 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: from his connection, you know, his time at Oklahoma. He 63 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: and Barry Switzer were friends. Yeah, he was also friends 64 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: with Jackie Sheryl. There were a few times when we 65 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: did the Leech radio show that Jackie Sheryl would just 66 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 1: kind of sit in the room and hang out. Yeah, 67 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: while we did this radio show. It's really interesting that 68 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: the guys that he hung around with that you probably 69 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: would not have associated him with if you think about 70 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: his offense, his personality. So we at that show. I mean, 71 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: it wasn't it was incredible. It was my first time 72 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: to interview I had I had met Bob Stoops earlier, 73 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: probably about a year or so earlier, but I had 74 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: known about him at Florida. I had some friends of 75 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: mine that knew him from Florida when he was a 76 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator there. I did not know Mac Brown. Mac. 77 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: I could see exactly why Mac won parents over and 78 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: got Rickers and and it was it was incredible. The 79 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: most charming guy I've ever met in my life. And 80 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 1: he knew who we were. He walked over and Hey, John, 81 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: Hey Sean, I was doing what you're doing here? Blown away, 82 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 1: great radio voice. They were they were incredible. So Leech 83 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: walks up at some point, He's got a tie that 84 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 1: I swear goes down to the third button of his shirt. 85 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 1: He want to tie on two hands, a little short 86 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 1: a little short tie, and he sits down, and at first, 87 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: I feel like it's gonna be We were looking forward 88 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: the interview, and at first I was like it was 89 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: we started. I thought I was gonna be kind of 90 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: surly a little bit. I don't know why. I just 91 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: kind of got that feeling. And then it sort of 92 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: opened up. And then once it started opening up, we 93 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: felt we could ask him a lot of stuff. So 94 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: we asked him about Cagle Steakhouse and he was like, 95 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: do you like that? Didn't and then he kind of 96 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: went into you know, he kind of went into different 97 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: things about it, and he's like, well, you know, it 98 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: made sense to me, and I had to tell her 99 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: and so he was great. He was great. He was great. 100 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: But it took him a little took him a couple 101 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes to kind of get rolling and 102 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: get warmed up. But I'll never forget seeing him roll 103 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: up with that tie that literally went down like his 104 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: third button at little short tie. It just it cracks 105 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: me up to even think about it. But that year, 106 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: that year was was unbelievable, the amount of code. We 107 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: had Kyle witting Hand from Utah, we had Turner Gil 108 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: from Buffalo. Did you have urban Meyer? Because didn't floored. No. 109 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: Urban Meyer was not somebody who liked to come to 110 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 1: these events. And then after he went to Ohiose State, 111 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: it was like, oh, maybe he's changed, he's and then 112 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: he committed to come and then didn't come. So that's 113 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: just really yeah, that's not Yeah, that was that was 114 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: kind of our experience with with urban Meyer. But that's 115 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 1: a great coach and then you can do about it. 116 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, Nick Saban was the only coach of those 117 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: years that we did that show that would not come 118 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: over and do radio with us. Interesting. It was actually 119 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: it was surreal after the twenty twelve season sitting there 120 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: doing the interview with Bill Bryan as the head coach 121 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: of Penn State. But it was it was very cool. 122 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong with background. It was very very surreal. 123 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: All right, Drew. I wanted to kick off the show 124 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 1: with you because you you sent me this text. Now 125 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: I looked at see if you sent this to anybody else, 126 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: But you sent this text to me last night, and 127 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: I thought it was kind of interesting because I was 128 00:06:15,480 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: just kind of messing around last night after watching some 129 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: guys play. I was focused more on the offensive side yesterday, 130 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: and I gotta put my computer up. It was just 131 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: kind of laying around listen to what was going on 132 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: on TV. And you said this text, if the starting 133 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: eleven plays at seventy five percent the entire way through 134 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen, the Texas defense will and then you 135 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: left it blank. I put a blank, and so I 136 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: kind of got my mind. I immediately just said, I 137 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: don't know why I didn't see the seventy five percent. 138 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: I just saw eleven play eleven play starting eleven players 139 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 1: entire way through. My immediate thought was the number one defensively. 140 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: I didn't see the seventy five percent. That's meaning like 141 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: JJ Watt is seventy five percent his old self, Jeneveon Clowney, 142 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: it's seventy five percent of his best self. But that 143 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: also means Benardrick McKinney's seventy five percent of his best health, 144 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: and so on and so on. So so it might 145 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: be a dip for some guys, but it's a big 146 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: jump up for guys like J. J. Watt, for guys 147 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 1: like Whitney Merciless, maybe Tyron Matthew too. I it was 148 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: weird because when you texted back and said, it means 149 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: Watton Clowney are bonkers, but are the rest regressing? And 150 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: then you got in my head. I went back and 151 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: I looked at the text. Let's started thinking, Okay, seventy 152 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 1: five percent and that I guess I was kind of 153 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: getting lost on that. I mean, it's semantics, but I 154 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: but I see, I see your point. I don't know 155 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: why I thought of that either, but I thought of it. 156 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: I thought John will kind of find this interesting. I think, Yeah, 157 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: my thought on that being I think the additions. I 158 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: feel like there's let's say why it is seventy five 159 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: percent of what he was. Let's say he gives you. 160 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: Let's just take JJ for instance. Let's say that he 161 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: gives you seventy five percent of the production that he 162 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: gave you in fourteen and fifteen. You're still talking about 163 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: at sex. Yeah, you're still talking about thirteen fourteen sacks. 164 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: You're talking about multiple tackles for a loss. You're talking 165 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: about tackles at the line of scrimmage. I thought one 166 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: of his best players last year was the play you 167 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 1: just gotta tackle for. And I was against New England 168 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: that we did a film room on. And but but 169 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: here's the thing. If his production is at seventy five 170 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 1: percent of what it once was, there's gotta be ancillary 171 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: benefit for the secondary, because the secondary, I think, is 172 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 1: gonna utilize his because he's gonna create quarterback pressures. Okay, 173 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: maybe say maybe seventy five percent of what he did, 174 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: it's still a hell of a lot. It's a hell 175 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: of a lot more than what you've had. Absolutely, and 176 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 1: then on top of that, and I felt like this 177 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: was one of the issues last year. What the defense 178 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: in particular in those two games against Tom and against 179 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: Tom Brady and Russell Wilson was the fact that they 180 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: had time to throw the ball. Now, now, the thing 181 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,719 Speaker 1: about it was Tom the Patriots game. Everybody saw that 182 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: Tom had, you know, pretty significant numbers, and there's no doubt, 183 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: but the defense returned a touchdown on on the fumble recovery. 184 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 1: They hit Brady incessantly, and after the Patriots came out 185 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 1: and scored the first drive of the second second half. 186 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: They got nothing for the rest of the game until 187 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: that final drive, and if they recover a fumble that 188 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: Marcus Gilchrist forced right there, games over, they would have 189 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: gotten nothing for the entire second half. Court clicked out 190 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: with the interception. Yeah, to me, there's a there's a 191 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: lot of different ways to look at it, and I 192 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 1: think that's that's and that's where the greatest of Brady 193 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: was was so good. He found open spaces. He got 194 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: the ball to guys that were marginally open. And I 195 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: think that's where the pass rush comes in to me, 196 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: is that as the season wore on, quarterbacks had more 197 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: time to throw, and because they had more time to throw, 198 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: those windows were larger that they could throw into. And 199 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: think about it too, You're you're you're focusing there on 200 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: what justifiably so we've made no mention of Whitney merciless 201 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: that because that's another weapon in the past. Rushing absolutely so, 202 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,839 Speaker 1: Now you have three when you really only had one 203 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: in a quarter last year with Clowney, and could Clowney's 204 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: set to you know, looking like the contract extensions coming. 205 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: We we've all expected that, you know him, and he 206 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: deserves it. He deserves of course, he does, and you 207 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 1: get you put those three together. It's it's what we've 208 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 1: been waiting for since fourteen when he got drafted. Put 209 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 1: those three together. Let's see what happens. Oh man, I 210 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: just so let me ask you this your point of 211 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: of let's just say, whatt and Merciless, if they are 212 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: just at seventy five percent of their quote unquote normal production, 213 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 1: it could be fully back to normal. Well, let's just 214 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: say that they are. Let's just say that they're at 215 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 1: seventy five percent of their normal production. This defense goes 216 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 1: where to answer your own question, where do you think 217 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: this defense can be? Obviously a whole hell of a 218 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: lot better. And I think the big rise comes in takeaways. 219 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: I place more importance on takeaways than I do on 220 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: yards allowed per game, and above both of those, I 221 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: place the ultimate importance on points allowed per game by 222 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: the defense. But if I had to rank them, I 223 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,760 Speaker 1: go points allowed takeaways and then yards, and I think 224 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: it I think it jumps specifically there and the takeaways 225 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: more than anything. Yeah, I think to your point, even 226 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: if they aren't one hundred percent, if they're at seventy, 227 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: I still think that means takeaways are generated for this defense, 228 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: you're knocking the ball lose. I mean there, and I 229 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,559 Speaker 1: think there's another I think there's another couple of ways 230 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: to look at this too. Number One, if this offense, 231 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 1: I don't believe the offense is gonna score forty points 232 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: a game, but I do think the offense can can 233 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: put up points with the best of them in this 234 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: league when everybody's healthy, and I think that's gonna be 235 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 1: the case that they're gonna be able to score some points. 236 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: You score some points. Defense comes out on the field. 237 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: They're facing teams having to throw the ball. You're now 238 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: facing you know, say you're facing the Jaguars and you 239 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: gotta lead on them. And now Blake Bortles has to throw, 240 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: and you know he has to throw four Nett's taken 241 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: out really as a weapon. Then all of a sudden, 242 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,719 Speaker 1: it plays right into your hands. In some sense, that's 243 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: where more turnovers can happen. Last year, Bortals in the 244 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: December game, in particular, when he got hot, I mean, 245 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: they had everything at the disposal. They could run, they 246 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: could throw, and you were off balance. But now a sudden, 247 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: you gotta lead, Bortles has to throw. That plays into 248 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 1: your hands. A little bit more. But that said, even 249 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: if those two come back and they're not one hundred percent, 250 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 1: they're not right where you'd like for them to be, 251 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: they're still going to create havoc as long as they're 252 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: healthyening on the field, no doubt. And you just brought 253 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: up something that made me kind of think. You said, 254 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: I don't think the Texans are gonna score forty points 255 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: a game, and you know, I tend to agree with you. 256 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 1: I think regression to the mean will happen with the offense. 257 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: But I also kind of kept expecting that each week 258 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: with the Shawn Watson, like, well, you know, they might 259 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: the defenses might kind of figure something out with them, 260 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: and they never did. And so I just don't know 261 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: what to think about this offense because in addition to 262 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: all that, we've heard Bill O'Brien say that this offense 263 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: is gonna look a lot different than it did last year, 264 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: So that could mean a lot of things too. So 265 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: I just I have a very happy no expectation, no 266 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: way to winno or or or figure out what this 267 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: offense is gonna look like because there's so much uncertainty 268 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: and you got the trigger man coming back, who is 269 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 1: so breathless, breathtaking, league dynamic. You know, I just I 270 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: don't know what to expect and I like that. Yeah, 271 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 1: I felt a lot like you. Okay, they scored thirty 272 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: last week. People would ask me, hey, you scored thirty 273 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 1: plus a New England like, they won't do that. I 274 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: know when to fluke, you know, but I just thought 275 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: they'll kind of rain him back in a little bit. 276 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 1: And they never did. No, they never did. And hopefully 277 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: that happens and with a I say, a new offense, 278 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: because I think there's gonna be a lot of things 279 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 1: that are pretty similar to what they were doing while 280 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: the Shan was in. Yeah, but I thought about some 281 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: things now and all bosos off of you over the 282 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. But one of them has to 283 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:13,559 Speaker 1: do with the draft in the tight end position. But 284 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: we'll talk about that more next time. Drew story coming 285 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: up next here. There's some guys still in this roster 286 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: that maybe some of you forgotten about. Mark vander Meer 287 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: and I will go subterranean roster next. Who are some 288 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: of those guys that we may have forgotten about? We 289 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: need to keep our eye on that. Next Right here 290 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: in Texans, a axis Welcome back to a tg I 291 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 1: f Texans All Access. Yes, thank god it is Friday. 292 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: I'm your host. John Harris, Football is Als' side on reporter, 293 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: joined now by the voice of the Texans, Mark vander Meer, 294 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: who did something very cool today. What did you do 295 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: earlier today? I thought was you're an opportunity to talk 296 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: to some students, did you Angelo State? And let's see, 297 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: it was a kind of a video conference seminar on 298 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: getting jobs and broadcasting, which is nearly impossible. Kids, don't 299 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: try this at home. No, But it's funny because I 300 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: was doing this thing and I was on this app 301 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: on the phone, and you know, I could barely hear 302 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: who the other panelists were, and they were local people, 303 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: I thought. And then I hear this voice that I think, 304 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 1: this voice is really familiar. Then he's talking about working 305 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: at the Boston Globe and I'm thinking, oh, my gosh, 306 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: it's Bob Ryan. Bob Ryan was on the panel with me. 307 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 1: Bob Ryan, Yeah, for these Angelo State kids, And I thought, 308 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: that's pretty cool that they get to hear from Bob Ryan. 309 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 1: That's pretty awesome. Yeah, And they said, oh, yeah, you're 310 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: the featured guy. I'm like, no, I'm not. Bob Ryan 311 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: is the featured guy. Don't be crazy, it's Bob Ryan. Well, 312 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: how many of the students in the room, I'm assuming 313 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty two year old students wouldn't know Bob 314 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:43,880 Speaker 1: Ryan versus you, Well, I don't know versus how many 315 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: of them would know who I am. But the thing 316 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 1: is this, and maybe there's some of those. Yeah, but 317 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: Bob Bryan. It's a good point, Johnny, because you know, 318 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: is he old media? Yeah, but he was also a 319 00:15:54,840 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: groundbreaker in terms of newspaper guys who become TV d oars. 320 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: I'll put the word in quotes, because he was on 321 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: the Sports Reporters. I thought the best panel of the 322 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: Sports Reporters was, of course Dick Schapp hosting Mitch Album, 323 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: Bob Ryan and Mike Lupica. That was my all star 324 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: panel on Sports Reporters on Sunday Morning, and it was 325 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: actually musty TV at the time until every show was 326 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: like that and you're thinking, take your pick at that point, 327 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: that was really the first of its kind. Yeah, really 328 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: was because you had the you know what stir with 329 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: Mike Lupica, you had with Mitch Mitch Album, who was 330 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: more maybe the softer side of sports. I suppose that 331 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: before he started writing all these books about dead people. Yeah. 332 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: And then you had Bob Bryan, who to me was 333 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: he knew everything. Yeah. I mean he obviously covered the 334 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: Celtics for a long time, but just being in Boston, 335 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: to me, he covered everything and he was seemingly, in 336 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: my opinion at the time, he was sort of the 337 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: foil to Lupica, and I hated Lupica, so I was 338 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: always a big Bob Bryan band. There was a part 339 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: there was another show out of Chicago and you might 340 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: have gotten the R sands up and wis continent stuff. 341 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 1: Rick Callender was on it, Yes, who used to write 342 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: for Sports Illustrated and these older guys, and I was like, so, 343 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: why don't you think of Notre Dame this week? And 344 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 1: they were around a card table or something and it 345 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: was like a dark room. Yes, and I want to 346 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: call it The Sports Reporters. I saw there was an 347 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: article about that show. I saw in a camera. I 348 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: think it made men. Sports Illustrated wrote about that show 349 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: that would that that preceded the Sports Reporters. I can't 350 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: remember what that was called, but that was all sports 351 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: nothing off the field. There was no it was just 352 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: we're talking all ball, Hey, what do you think about 353 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: the third started? What do you think about him? And 354 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: it was fantastic. Yeah, I mean I used to watch 355 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,159 Speaker 1: it on WGN. It used to be on WGN, and 356 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: now every show is that. Every show is people talking 357 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: about sports and what do you bring to the table. 358 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, there's so much of the I 359 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: don't know, you know where we've gone though, Like the Starters. 360 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: I was reading about their one thousandth episode and congratulations 361 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: to them because that show caught my eye. I'm like, 362 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it's it's like guys who used to 363 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: work for Darryl Morey. That's not really in fact it 364 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: is but basketball nerds just talking about NBA and it 365 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,479 Speaker 1: works for some reason. They do a Twitter show every day, 366 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: they do a TV show. It's not n NBA TV. 367 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: It's actually pretty good. If you flood people with content, 368 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: you know what you're talking about, and you got a 369 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: little bit of entertainment value to you, I mean, you 370 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: have at it, You've got an opportunity. But unfortunately, I 371 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: think the media nowadays, you got to say something somewhat 372 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 1: shocking for for somebody to pay attention unless yeah, I know, 373 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: but there there there are plenty of people that fall 374 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: into that category. But I being a I'd like to 375 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: think a true sports fan, I'd like to listen to 376 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 1: people that know what tch they're talking about and are 377 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: compelling to listen to. The starters are are very very good, 378 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: but they are spitting out content left and right. There's 379 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:55,920 Speaker 1: no question you know that true. And I did in 380 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: the Lab podcast here the day and I'd come up 381 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: with this dam And then I got really mad at 382 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: Landry Locker because Landry stole my idea that the Genesis city, 383 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: the idea. We're sitting around and we're talking, and I 384 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:09,119 Speaker 1: brought this up with you before, so I brought it 385 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: up with Drew and so then he took it to 386 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: a different step and I said, right now, we're in 387 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: the sweet spot of Houston athletes right professionally with Harden 388 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: and Chris Paul and all the astros, and obviously what's 389 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: going on here with Watt and Watson and Hopkins and 390 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: Clowney and Merciless and the players that are here. It 391 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,600 Speaker 1: feels like a sweet spot. I know, since I've been 392 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and seven, I can't remember it 393 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 1: ever being really like this with a same sorts, and 394 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,159 Speaker 1: so I thought, man, what if we ranked like the 395 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: top ten, did that for our podcast, and he goes, well, hey, 396 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,960 Speaker 1: let's let's let's do that for Let's do that on radio, 397 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 1: and then let's for the podcast. Let's do the top 398 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: ten Houston professional football players essentially from the Love You 399 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 1: Blue ear And we didn't go all the way back 400 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: to the sixties because that was not a time. We 401 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 1: weren't we weren't of that era. We'll start with the 402 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: Love Blue oilers going forward, Let's rank the top ten 403 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: Houston professional players in the lab put it out on 404 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 1: social media, and then the Texans account put it out. 405 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: I mean, my Twitter timeline has just gone crazy because 406 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: both Drew and I were mentioned in there, and it 407 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: just went nuts. It was like, oh, it needs to 408 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: be Earl. No, No, it's definitely JJ. I mean, it 409 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: was all over the place. And it was something as 410 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: simple as we just sat and we kind of came 411 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: up with the ranking together of what we would do. 412 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: And I don't want to spoil it for you. You'll 413 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: have to go look at it in the Lap podcast 414 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: subscribed to it, but it was it was interesting because 415 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: as we talked through, I almost talked Drew into a change, 416 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: but I said, no, we're gonna leave it the top ten. Well, 417 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: of course he did, Okay, of course he did. Yes, 418 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 1: he definitely made the top ten. How many Texans do 419 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: you think made the top ten. I'm gonna say at 420 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: least two, maybe three, they're right, three okay, three? Oh, 421 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: I think at back we had a tie at ten 422 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,040 Speaker 1: made four four, four, ok. Yeah, you can maybe you 423 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: think about who those guys actually are. So it's in 424 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: the lab. That's the pod labs. In the podcast, you 425 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: get an itune stitcher. It's really good. Now, speaking of 426 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: dropping in your lap, so to speak. We we get 427 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 1: an email every time there is a transaction from our 428 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: buddy Omar in PR and he sends along the updated 429 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: roster every time that a transaction happens. And the other 430 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: day I just was curious. I just I don't know, 431 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: I just wanted to see what the roster looked like. 432 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: The roster. First of all, yeah, there are always number changes, 433 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: and so I've got to adjust to that. Brandon Weedon 434 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,360 Speaker 1: was number five, now he's number three. Oh oh, you're 435 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: messing with me now, No, I'm telling you what it is. Yeah, 436 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: you're right, Brandon Weeden's number three. I didn't even know this, 437 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, I haven't seen the practice yet. I know 438 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 1: Joe Webb is not number five. So Webb has Weedon's 439 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: old number, right, and Weedon has savages old number, right. 440 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 1: But that was Weedon's college number. So that'll that'll help 441 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: me because I'll be okay. Tyler Irvan is now number 442 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 1: twenty one. Okay, Johnson about him most he's number twenty. 443 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 1: But that wasn't really wasn't the purpose. I'll be fine 444 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: with that. That wasn't really wasn't the purpose. In fact, 445 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: I might have dp on to talk a little bit 446 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: more about the makeup of the roster. But as I 447 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: started going through the roster and looking at the names, 448 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: of course you see a familiar name Jonathan Joseph Creem, Jackson, 449 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: Lamar Miller, Sharts. Seeing some other names, you went, oh, man, 450 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: I forgot he was on the roster. That guy might 451 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: be able to be a part of this roster. And 452 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 1: so we do this every year at training camp. We 453 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: talk about the subterranean roster members those guys were not 454 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: talking about that have an opportunity to make an impact 455 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 1: on this team in some way, shape or form. Now 456 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: by design, it's not a group of players that they're 457 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: all gonna make it. All the guys we talk about 458 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 1: maybe one guy makes an impact. Maybe maybe, but these 459 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: guys have a chance. But they have a chance. So 460 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: you're saying as a chance, So there's a chance. And 461 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: so I know you looked at the rod. I gave 462 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: you that that exercise. Give me your first subterrane okay, 463 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: roster player that you think has a chance. I'm ready. 464 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: And he got back with the team. I forget when, 465 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: but we saw him for like a day and a 466 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: half a training camp. Light it up and we were thinking, 467 00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: we need to see this guy more, and that would 468 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 1: be I'll give you his number number eleven. Deandrew White. 469 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 1: Deandrew White came to camp and he was such a 470 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: breath of fresh chair second year accredited at of Alabama, 471 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: and he started catching everything and he had chemistry with 472 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 1: Watson and Savage and then he gets hurt and bye 473 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: bye Deandrew White and he ends up rejoining the team. 474 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 1: Went was it this offseason or late in the regular season, 475 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: because I remember I saw played in the Colts game. Yeah, 476 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: that's right, I saw him in the break room during 477 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: the season and I didn't know who it was, and 478 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: I said, hey, Mark Van, I just introduced myself and 479 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: you know, no one was around, and he said, hey, 480 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm Deandrew White. I'm like, oh, Deandrew White's here. And 481 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: if he's here, he's probably signing there now bringing to 482 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: talk to him. So he ends up signing And I 483 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: forgot about that that he actually did get a little 484 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 1: piece of the action in the regular season. So this 485 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: is great for him to be back, and I think 486 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: he's got the ability again a chance to do something 487 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 1: because it's not like their ocean deep and wide receiver here. 488 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 1: There are opportunities for these guys to you know, rise 489 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 1: and fall and whatever. Just because you have guys who 490 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: have played in this league like Sammy Coates and even 491 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: Braxton Miller, doesn't mean a guy like the Andrew White 492 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: can't crack into the lineup or at least out of 493 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: the roster. Think of the roster makeup at wide receiver 494 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: going into last training camp and what it is now. 495 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 1: Obviously hop Andrew White was not there, Bruce Ellington was 496 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: not there, Chris Thompson was a rookie, Sammy Coats was 497 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:46,360 Speaker 1: not there, and Monte Crockett was not there. Thompson's completely 498 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: remade wide receiver Sammy Coates is interesting for a variety 499 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: of reasons, of course, and Thompson good special teams player. 500 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: Let's just see what I think he found his role. 501 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a good one. Must be 502 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: Matthew Slater maybe that. I'm fine with that, all right. 503 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: I got one. LaTroy Lewis outside linebacker. Played a little 504 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: bit at the end of the year. He was in Oakland, 505 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: had a really solid training camp with the Raiders, but 506 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: I just think numbers wise in Oakland, it wasn't it 507 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,800 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna work. They had Cleil mac did brewserv and 508 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: just wasn't gonna work. And so when the Texans picked 509 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: him up put on the practice squad, I was I 510 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 1: was thrilled because the way last year was going, you 511 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 1: figured he's gonna get on the field at some point. 512 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: He finally did at the end of the year, and 513 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: I felt like he did some good things. I was 514 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: a big fan of his coming out of college where 515 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 1: he were number four, and I love single digit defensive 516 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,719 Speaker 1: lineman numbers for some reason. That's I don't know why. 517 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: It's a guilty pleasure of mine, I suppose. But LaTroy 518 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: Lewis always flashing games that I watched, and he, of 519 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: course was on the field with Derek Barnett, so your 520 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: eyes always went to Barnett. But I kept looking at 521 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: number four, going, I think he could play, and the 522 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: fact that he's the outside linebacker position. Again to your point, Mark, 523 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: when you look at the outside linebacker, just pure outside 524 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: linebackers you got with you got Brent Scarlett, you got 525 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: Jamil President, LaTroy Lewis. Now we know Clowney can bump 526 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: out there and play if he needs to. Sometimes Bernardrick 527 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: rushes from out there, but as full outside linebacker, and 528 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 1: then you formal Camalos listening outside linebacker, but he kind 529 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: of bumps inside outside of the number of the things 530 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 1: they do with him. But I think LaTroy Lewis, with 531 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: a full OTA's and off season and then training camp, 532 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: I think he's got an opportunity to surprise some people 533 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 1: when we get the training camp. I was gonna say 534 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: Jamil President at that position, yeah maybe, yeah, But he's 535 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: two seventy five. He's a pretty big outside linebacker for 536 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,640 Speaker 1: a three four. But I don't know that he's that big. Really, Yeah, 537 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna rewigh him and see how 538 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: it all works well, I mean twenty five with the 539 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: roster for about fourteen years. Yeah that's true. Maybe not 540 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: never changed. I don't know what you know, what changes 541 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: every day with him? I know, but but these weights 542 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: never I don't know. I don't what's ever produced on 543 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 1: the roster. I don't know if that's ever ever right on, 544 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, but Trial President, I think 545 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,239 Speaker 1: is a good one. Okay, I'll give you another one here. 546 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: Because tight end is something where they're gonna need depth. 547 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,159 Speaker 1: I mean maybe more than depth, okay, I think they 548 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: need actual participation, you know, blocking tight end, maybe pure blocking. 549 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: John McLain thinks they're gonna draft a pure blocking tight end, 550 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: maybe somebody who has the potential to catch, but not 551 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: really looking for that first and foremost, you know, go 552 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: for a straightforward guy. And I don't know if that's 553 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: gonna happen or not in the third round, but I 554 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,719 Speaker 1: bet in the third round you're looking at tackle tight end. 555 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: That's another topic. I guess. Yeah, what are the lock 556 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: positions in that third round for them? And I know 557 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: it's best athlete available, but Brian Gain admitted that's theoretical 558 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: and it looks like they have some needs here. But 559 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say pick your tight end, but I'll go 560 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: Zach Konk or Conk, as Drew Torry would say, he's 561 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: just trying to throw us off the set there with 562 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: the pronunciation incorrectness. Is Zach Conk the former quarterback from 563 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 1: Stephen F. Foston who now is in year two. So 564 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: we went through it for a season six six two. 565 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 1: What do you know, he's a quarterback. You know he 566 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: knows his way around a football field. Let's see if 567 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: he can do some damage here in year two. Yeah, 568 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: I think the tight end tight end position is gonna 569 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: be very, very interesting because I do think somebody's getting 570 00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: added to the mix. Here's here's my thought about the 571 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: tight end position. Mark for you to give you the 572 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 1: last one. The game against Seattle. I don't know. There's 573 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: something about that game against Seattle. I felt like that 574 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: was the Texans offense at its best, right at its best. 575 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,399 Speaker 1: How often in that game did Ryan Griffin lineup as 576 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: a true tight end. He was spread out, He was 577 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: either a sniffer tight end like a fullback, or a fullback. 578 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: He spent a lot. I don't remember him lining up 579 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: as a why tight end an entire game. And if 580 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about and cut Bryants talked about the offense changing. 581 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: Maybe that's one of the ways that it changes. Maybe 582 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 1: that you don't need that amount. Maybe you don't need 583 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: that big blocking tight end. You can spread team out 584 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: and still run. Maybe that's something they're thinking about that, Hey, 585 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: we don't need maybe blocking tight end. Maybe we just 586 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: need a really good athlete at tight end. I hear you. 587 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: But here, here's my thing. This is still the NFL, 588 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 1: and it's quarter and you're up two touchdowns and you 589 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 1: want to pack, and it's Bill O'Brien. You know he 590 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: wants to do it. There's no fight. You can tell me. 591 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: It's like you've changed the office. But guess what, everybody 592 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: get in the hole and block, and I'm going three 593 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: yards and a cloud of dust right here, baby, all right. 594 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: He doesn't want to just do three yards, but you 595 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: get my drift. Yahny definitely wants to find bodies. But 596 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: he can do that with a tackle. Yeah, I guess yeah, 597 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: they'll go six and here it comes. Anybody, you're gonna 598 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: run the ball. Well, yeah, you're up to touchdowns. You 599 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: want to run clock and you're trying to You know, 600 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna have those instances where you're like, all right, 601 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 1: what do we do with Watson? Now? You know we 602 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: want to protect him, but we want to get a 603 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: first down, So what are we gonna do. I'm sure 604 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: they're having those conversations all offseason long. This is we're 605 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: gonna do in second half situations when we're up. When 606 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: we're down, it's pretty obvious that we need to throw 607 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: the ball and move the ball. But when we're up, 608 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: you want to move the ball, but you want to 609 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: do it safely. But the best thing about having to 610 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: Sean back there is as soon as he gets the ball, 611 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: first of all, all eyes go to him. Secondly, as 612 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: soon as he puts into running backs belly, there's a 613 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: guy you don't have to block. Yeah, there's a guy 614 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: right there. You don't have to block him, don't have 615 00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: to touch him because you're gonna force him to read 616 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: and if he wants to sit there and wait for 617 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: the Sean hand the ball off and now you've got 618 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: a man advantage up front all because Deshan is back there. 619 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: It's almost like having another blocker because Deshan can that 620 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,959 Speaker 1: guy crashes, let the Sean pull it and tell him 621 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 1: get down like he did against Seattle. So I mean, 622 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: I'm just curious to see how that all fits. I 623 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: wouldn't I wouldn't be opposed to a guy. I know 624 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: Trey Nicholas signed with the Patriots, but that's the kind 625 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: of guy I would think about if I wanted to 626 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: do that that could catch a little bit. Maybe maybe 627 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: there's a guy this draft that they look at think 628 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: that they think can block a little bit better. There 629 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: are a couple of guys I have my on. I 630 00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: won't give it away too much, but Ian Thomas from 631 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: Indiana's guy. That really why he was in a vander 632 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: mock of mine. Also, if I'm if I'm Zach Conk. 633 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 1: By the way, I am living with a jugs machine. 634 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: I am catching everything. Somebody's throwing me one hundred footballs 635 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: a day. I don't care who it is. I just 636 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: need to do this all right. To end the segment, 637 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you Bryce Jones, defensive back, was on 638 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: practice squad last year. A lot of good things. Is 639 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: a rookie. You can tell that he's always asking questions. 640 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 1: He loves ball. Bryce Jones is my final one, Mark 641 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: that one. Thank you very much for stopping by. Thanks Johnny. 642 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: Did you catch Tyrn Matthews Players Tribune article EBC? Who did? 643 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that next right here in Texans All 644 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: Access one, final segment of Texas All Access on this 645 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: one Friday evening, I'm your host John Harris now joining 646 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: me my good friend DP cy DP. How are you doing? 647 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 1: I'm good, Johnny. I have to say thank you so 648 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: much for joining me on my podcast, which is now 649 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: up yes on tune in Stitcher and the like. It's 650 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: you know, it was very fun. It was It's all 651 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: over Twitter. It was great. We went behind the Harris 652 00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 1: one on the Harris one hundred. You're process, how you 653 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,480 Speaker 1: scout players, what you look at? I feel like I 654 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: had so many questions I could have been up our two. 655 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: So it's funny because Mark Mark Vanimir was like, you're 656 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: getting John Harris on your podcast, Like, don't you and 657 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 1: Johnny talk all the time? Yeah? Pretty much? I said, 658 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: we do talk, but we don't. We don't talk about 659 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: it like that. These are things that I've always wondered about. 660 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: But you know, when the Harris one hundred comes out. 661 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: You're just more focused on like what's already there. Yeah, 662 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: not like all the ingredients that went into making it. Yeah, 663 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: exactly this. It's good stuff and the second version of 664 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: that should be up hopefully pretty soon. Not throw anybody 665 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: under the bus because it takes me a long time 666 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,560 Speaker 1: to put it together. And ad av Leibwitz and her 667 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 1: brother have put this together and it's great. You can 668 00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: sort it by a position, you can hover over it. 669 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: I really, I really like the last job. It's been 670 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: so so good, and I it's funny. I've gone back, 671 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: I've gone back and I've looked. I got this. I 672 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: got this. The other day DP, somebody had asked me, 673 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: and I can't remember why this question came up. This, 674 00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: but the question came up about what my original thought 675 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: was on Brock Oswyler, and they wanted to know my draft. 676 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: My draft draft came with my draft analysis. Um, and 677 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: I don't remember. Oh, I know what it was. I 678 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: was on Triple Threat and I was asked about I 679 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 1: made some kind of crack about Brock. I can't remember 680 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: what it was, something about it not turning out or 681 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,160 Speaker 1: whatever the case might be. I don't I don't remember exactly, 682 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: but I got this tweet from this individual and I'm 683 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: trying to I'm trying to find it real quick. I'm 684 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: sure I won't be able to, but essentially it was 685 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: what I would have liked to have seen your original 686 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 1: thought on brock Oswalder. So I was like, I was like, oh, 687 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 1: here was, Oh here was. It was from M six 688 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: soccer fan and he said it would be cool to 689 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: see your pre draft notes on brock Oswyler. Also now 690 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: that he is at this point of his career where 691 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: the major shortcomings that stand out to you now. So 692 00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: I sent him this. This was from my draft profile 693 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: in two thy twelves. See how I did. Ok I'm 694 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,479 Speaker 1: really curious about Okay has a tendency to lock out 695 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: of wide receivers, but plays in the system that creates 696 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,640 Speaker 1: those tendencies. Decent feet outside the pocket for his size, 697 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 1: takes a while to get rid of the ball, labored 698 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 1: release at times, will step into his throws nicely. Because 699 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 1: he doesn't hold defenders with his eyes, he ends up 700 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: having to throw into traffic. Plays in simplistic read offense, 701 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,800 Speaker 1: low release point, inconsistent with zip on his passes. Some 702 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 1: of his throwing issues look coachable. Overall, some teams will 703 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: be intrigued Boss while he's size, but his arms, slot 704 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: and delivery make him play shorter than his listing size. 705 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: When he steps in his passes, he looks pretty good, 706 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 1: but he needs work to improve his consistency. He makes 707 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,640 Speaker 1: way too many dangerous throws for playing in a system. 708 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: He will probably be overdrafted. On his size and potential. 709 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: I projected him to go into third slash fourth round. 710 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: He went in the second round. Wow, John Harris, you 711 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: need to have a podcast where you just go back 712 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 1: and read your scouting reports. I need you know the 713 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: one I need to find, you know, the one that 714 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: I probably hit out of the park, maybe more than 715 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: any other draft prospect that I've ever done, because it 716 00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: was in that same year, in twenty twelve, and I 717 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,560 Speaker 1: have it on my computer that's upstairs by my office. 718 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 1: Was I nailed? I mean, idiots, I nailed it. I 719 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: went back and read it was like, oh my gosh, 720 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: like I made it. I made a comment about how 721 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: everything I hit it out of the park. Deep you 722 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: talking about? I mean it was? It was. Um, I'll 723 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: have to get it. I'll have to read it one 724 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: day I might read it for Whitney one day. I 725 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: think he'd be proud of me. But when I remember 726 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: one of sement right now, this is a Texans TV segment, 727 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I think it could be pretty good. 728 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: I the one thing I definitely remember saying was Whitney 729 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: does not play the run very well at all. In 730 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: due time, I think he'll be able to. It's gonna 731 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: take some work, but that is probably the biggest hole 732 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: in his game. And it was early on his career. 733 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: He did not play this one very well. It took 734 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: him a few seasons. But man, now he's a monster 735 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,480 Speaker 1: against a run. You cannot you can't run at him, 736 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: whether he's in the middle or outside. But the whole thing, 737 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 1: when you hear it, you go, oh man. Now, those 738 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: obviously are some good ones, but there have been well, 739 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,280 Speaker 1: we all know it's Dwayne, There's no question. I mean Dwayne. 740 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 1: Dwayne Brown back in two thousand and eight was probably Okay, 741 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,560 Speaker 1: that was the biggest one. You've talked about him, you 742 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: know what. I know, another one another one, and and 743 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,959 Speaker 1: I think I think maybe I fell into a trap. 744 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: Now I think I still think. I still think had 745 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,800 Speaker 1: he just stayed on the football straight and narrow. I 746 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: do eventually think that Johnny Manziel would have eventually learned 747 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: how to play quarterback the right way in the NFL. 748 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: But I just felt like there was something about Johnny 749 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: that he was going to eventually make plays in the NFL, 750 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: and he started to dud it. In twenty fifteen, I 751 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: remember there's a game against the Steelers. We were on 752 00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,239 Speaker 1: a road trip. We went we were going somewhere and 753 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: I can't remember where it was. I think was Cincinnati. Yeah, 754 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: it was Cincinnati. We went to Remember when Cincinnati in 755 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, Well, that's Sunday. We were going to the hotel. 756 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: We're driving the hotel and the Browns were playing Steelers 757 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: and Johnny was having one of his best games the Steelers. 758 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:15,839 Speaker 1: I think he ended up having to win that game 759 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,719 Speaker 1: in overtime, and I remember thinking that day, man, if 760 00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: he can just build off this, and then a couple 761 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:20,920 Speaker 1: of weeks later he ended up getting dinged up and 762 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: then the rest of the season went off the rails, right, 763 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: But that was that was probably my That's probably when 764 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: I look back and go, man, all the things off 765 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: the field. I knew all the things off the field. 766 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: I had heard all that, but those are some demons 767 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,319 Speaker 1: that don't go away. Yeah, exactly exactly, And that's why 768 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: I wonder, you know, he's gonna be playing in this 769 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: in this new spring league. Yeah, I've seen him tweet. 770 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: He and Tyron Matthew have an interesting Twitter relationship, but 771 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 1: they really seemed to cheer each other on. So I'm 772 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: kind of curious to see what happens. Speaking of but 773 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: now Tyron Matthew, that was one that I you know, 774 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: it's funny. Back in twenty thirteen, I was writing for 775 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,320 Speaker 1: Yagging Sports and I did a I did a draft 776 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 1: board for each team. So what I what I did 777 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,840 Speaker 1: was I took each position. I took each position, and 778 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 1: I wrote a breakdown on the position, and then I 779 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:13,359 Speaker 1: went on first through seventh round a player that might 780 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 1: be available to that team at that particular round that 781 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: would fit that team. And so there would be times 782 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: like I wouldn't have a you know, maybe a first, second, 783 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,240 Speaker 1: or third round because it may not be a priority, 784 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: but then in the later rounds and have somebody. So 785 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,040 Speaker 1: I went back and I tried to find what I 786 00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: wrote about Tyron Matthew, and I had him pegged. I 787 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 1: put him in the in the Texans. I didn't think 788 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,400 Speaker 1: the Texas would draft him, but I wanted them to. 789 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: But I had him as a fourth rounder because all 790 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: the stuff he had going off the field that he 791 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: would go in the fourth round. And then I laid 792 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: out the case why I thought he would be good 793 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: in Houston. He's with John Lucas. You know, it's a 794 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: good locker room, a lot of vets. I think they'll 795 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,279 Speaker 1: surround him. I think it'll be a good location for him, 796 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. It may have been, it 797 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,280 Speaker 1: may have been. It worked out for him in Arizona, 798 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:00,520 Speaker 1: and now he's here. But I'm excited. Did you see 799 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: his Players Tribute article? I read it, actually wrote a 800 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 1: story about it on Houston Texans dot com, so I 801 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 1: linked to the original article, but a few parts of 802 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,239 Speaker 1: that and I love players Tribute. A few weeks ago, 803 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,480 Speaker 1: see France, Steve Frances I don't know where. I was 804 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: waiting for my food. I had ordered food from a restaurant. 805 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: I was waiting for it, and I thought, oh, twenty minutes, 806 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: and I started reading it, and I couldn't stop reading 807 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,400 Speaker 1: the Steve France the story because I thought I remember 808 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,839 Speaker 1: one of the Rockets games. I remember watching him play. 809 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: I had no idea how he grew up, what he 810 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 1: overcame to get into the NBA, and the fact that 811 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: you know, every a lot of people thought, oh he 812 00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: you know, he had like he sort of flamed out 813 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,839 Speaker 1: towards the end. It's amazing to me that he even 814 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,920 Speaker 1: made it to the NBA because of everything that he 815 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: went through. But anyway players tribute in his fantastic tarn 816 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,400 Speaker 1: Matthew story is great. We heard everything he had to 817 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: stay at the introductory press conference here. Yeah, when he 818 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,880 Speaker 1: signed with the Texans. But there's something about a player 819 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,839 Speaker 1: right writing it in his own words, and there were 820 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,319 Speaker 1: some stories in there. You know. I think I love 821 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: it when players tell stories because you can say all 822 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 1: you want, like, oh, I'm really attached to Houston. But 823 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: then when you tell the story of Katrina and how 824 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: you left and what you saw that story away, I 825 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 1: mean that it's like haunting. It's haunting. And I referenced 826 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: that in the story I wrote because I thought this 827 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: is just it's amazing because it's something that the way 828 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: he describes it, you you can put yourself in that 829 00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: situation today. So I thought I thought he did a 830 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 1: fantach's fantastic job. I wrote my week slant on Tyron 831 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: Matthew's working out because he's out in Arizona's working out 832 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: in the heat and um for those of you who 833 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: like working out. My whole story began with all these 834 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: boot camps around town, because have you seen all these 835 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: boot camps like early in the morning, like like everywhere 836 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 1: I go there, it's like boot camp city in Houston 837 00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,239 Speaker 1: getting a little bit better. Weather's nice. People are trying 838 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,759 Speaker 1: to lose their winter winter quote. Wait, I don't know, 839 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: but anyway, Yeah, I wrote a little story about all 840 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,080 Speaker 1: of his workouts. You know, it's funny that the part, 841 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: you know, when he talked about Houston and that it 842 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: was interesting how he felt because I was. I was 843 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: reading that part, and I thought, in that situation, having 844 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,399 Speaker 1: to leave New Orleans because of all that was going, 845 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: you know, because of Katrina that hit, and then having 846 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 1: to come to Houston, my initial thought was that's not 847 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,240 Speaker 1: really my home. I'm only there for a short amount 848 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 1: of time. That's gonna be a memory, not a great 849 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: memory for me, because it got me out of New Orleans. 850 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: That's not a place I'm gonna remember fondly, but it 851 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: was the exact opposite right for him, He's the exact opposite. 852 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,120 Speaker 1: Which stood out to me so much that I would 853 00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,240 Speaker 1: think Houston would be a revival of a bad memory, 854 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 1: because I know when we go, when we go next 855 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:47,200 Speaker 1: to New Orleans or Dallas, those cities aren't gonna be 856 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: a it's not gonna be like those are bad cities, 857 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 1: but it's gonna kick up all that went on with 858 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: Hurricane Harvey, and oh man, it's just gonna give leave 859 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: me this kind of awful feeling leaving my family here 860 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 1: in Houston and going too New or we go there 861 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: for a preseason game or whatever. Whenever we go to 862 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: New Orleans or Dallas next, I'm gonna, I know, I'm 863 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 1: gonna have those feelings, you know, because of and not 864 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,200 Speaker 1: that I'm gonna hate New Orleans hate Dallas, but you 865 00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,560 Speaker 1: just it just brings it takes you back to a 866 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,400 Speaker 1: time in your life that was very stressful and horrible 867 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: and you just felt so completely helpless. Yeah, I mean, 868 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,439 Speaker 1: I know, we didn't get very much sleep because we're 869 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: just trying to get in touch with our families here 870 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: and just seeing the images on the news, and I 871 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 1: just saw like my intersection outside my house just completely underwater, 872 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: and I thought, how can we get home? And you couldn't. 873 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 1: You could drive home, you couldn't fly home, and you 874 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 1: didn't know when you'd be able to fly home, and 875 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: you just kept watching the weather hoping for it to end. 876 00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,160 Speaker 1: And Hurricane Katrina, I mean, I can't even imagine what 877 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,399 Speaker 1: he went through, having to evacuate for months at a time, 878 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 1: like you can't even go back to your city. But 879 00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,720 Speaker 1: he tells the story of being in a Louisiana shelter 880 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: and how it was just it was just so gut wrenching, 881 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: gut wrenching, sad and devastating, and but you know, he 882 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,439 Speaker 1: writes about it beautifully. Yeah, because then he talks about 883 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: coming to Houston and how that was just sort of 884 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: a new start and how people here really received him, 885 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,120 Speaker 1: And I just I can see where his love from 886 00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,839 Speaker 1: for Houston comes from. And I get what you're saying, 887 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: because I thought the same thing. I thought, isn't Houston 888 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,359 Speaker 1: kind of a bad memory? But you know, he kind 889 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 1: of went through almost worse when when he left for Katrina, 890 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: before he got to Houston. Yeah, and he felt like, 891 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: as he notes in the article. He felt like Houston 892 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: was where he was well received, and so he felt 893 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 1: like the people were so nice and they were so 894 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: giving and so helpful. Once they got to Houston, it 895 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,040 Speaker 1: made him think about this place in a in a 896 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: good way and thankfully, thankfully because now Tyrann Matthew is ay, 897 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,839 Speaker 1: he said Texan and oh oh is it week one 898 00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,439 Speaker 1: yet so exciting. We gotta we gotta get there, There's 899 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: no question. Deep appreciate you time by thank you, Thanks Johnny, 900 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: and there you have it, Deep Drew mark All on 901 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,760 Speaker 1: the show tonight. Thank you, y'all have a great, great weekend. 902 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: We'll see I'm Monday, everybody, and as always, go Texans.