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Speaker 1: that was all canello triple listen to that. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: with the fight this weekend, Shakor Stevenson robes and can

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Speaker 1: say so. This was officially as of Friday morning, for

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Speaker 1: the two belts at hundred thirty pounds held by Shakor Stevenson.

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Speaker 1: On Friday afternoon Shakor Stevenson missed wake coming in at

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Speaker 1: one thirty one point six, one point six pounds over.

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Speaker 1: Didn't try to make the weight. After that, released the

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Speaker 1: You've often said, Sergio, that fighters responsibility to make weight. Um,

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Speaker 1: in fights. Uh. Joseph Parker probably the better boxer. Has

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Speaker 1: twelve rounds of assault from Joe Joyce? What do you

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Speaker 1: make of this one? I love it. It's a perfect

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Speaker 1: So if you look at him, everything is behind the JAB.

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Speaker 1: Not a bad, bad look for Bam Rodrick's going to

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Speaker 1: Right now is Ioko, is coming off that win over

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Speaker 1: But UH, fighter of the year is not his aspiration.

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Speaker 1: making a list of the top guys in terms of

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Speaker 1: fighter of the year, you're talking most likely about de

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Speaker 1: Major Bevil if he beatszerto Ramirez. You're talking most likely

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Speaker 1: about Errol Spence if he beats Um Terence Crawford, and

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Speaker 1: a fight Pencylvan off for November. So I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna do a little bit more. I think two fights

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Speaker 1: against the middle of the pack type of guys of

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Speaker 1: a calendar year doesn't get it done, even if you

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Speaker 1: get four wins out of it. I'm about drop down

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Speaker 1: to one T and be a two division champion. They

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Speaker 1: will be fight of the year and that's easier than

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Speaker 1: a tough fight like Ayoka. Well, he does. He does

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Speaker 1: want to drop down to one twelve. You've got Jumo

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Speaker 1: Kn Knakatani, who is a title holder at hundred and

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Speaker 1: twelve pounds. I believe he has a fight scheduled, he does,

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Speaker 1: for October. Julio Caesar Martinez. He's got a fight scheduled

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Speaker 1: for the fall. I believe that's gonna be down in Mexico.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the other titles there look. He

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Speaker 1: could go back to one twelve he wants to take

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Speaker 1: a big fight. If he wants a big fight at

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Speaker 1: a hundred and twelve pounds, I'm fine with that, but

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a big fight. It's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: title holder or one of the big names in the

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Speaker 1: hundred twelve pound division. I'm just saying Sergio he wants

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Speaker 1: to be fighter of the year. So if you want

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Speaker 1: him to be fighter of the year and if he's

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Speaker 1: the front runner for that, if he can go back

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Speaker 1: down to one twelve and pick up a title, a

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Speaker 1: title at that, against the title holder doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: be a big name, that should make him a lot.

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Speaker 1: Unless Errol Spence and Tarrol Tamas Cowford fight, and then

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Speaker 1: I think look at beeble beats, Canelo and Zerto, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be hard to vote for anybody else. Two undefeated fighters.

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Speaker 1: was four pound for pound, number one. I'll give you that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how it's gonna be, tough people. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be tough, but we're gonna see how it own

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Speaker 1: reps in the end. Before right now, Bam Rodriguez has

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Speaker 1: a momentum. By the way, we mentioned pop forer pound

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Speaker 1: here Um and fighter of the year type guys and

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Speaker 1: the poper pound list. Canelo Alvarez, after beating GNATI Glofkin.

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Speaker 1: He erases that loss. To to meet your people. Where

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Speaker 1: would you put Canelo on your pod? For poulace right,

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Speaker 1: don't have to give me exact number, like the one

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Speaker 1: to three or five, five, hundred five, I would say four.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I would say four. I mean I would have

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Speaker 1: to put, you know, a Crawford in front of him,

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Speaker 1: beavile in front of him, be people from you don't

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Speaker 1: get put in front of cans from one win, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: in a way, in front of him, in a way

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Speaker 1: I can see the argument for. In front of him.

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Speaker 1: That I can see the argument in a way. And

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Speaker 1: Terence Crawford. Those are the three. I wouldn't put people

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Speaker 1: ahead of him. I mean, well then beavil's number five.

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Speaker 1: Then I don't even put I think I don't beat

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Speaker 1: the back half of my top ten, back half, because

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Speaker 1: they spence is better than the beavil. Spence is not

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Speaker 1: active enough. You just in like April. Okay, what do

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Speaker 1: you find? Before then? He fought in like I don't

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Speaker 1: was out of you guys, I get it, but he

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Speaker 1: hasn't been active enough. I think the world the truth.

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Speaker 1: thing I want to hit you on deontay wilder, who's

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Speaker 1: back October fifteenth and a pretty intriguing fight against Robert

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Speaker 1: lenni s. He did an interview recently where he said

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Speaker 1: he's in the hall of fame, no question about it.

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Speaker 1: Deontay wilder is one of the biggest punchers in the

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Speaker 1: heavyweight division. But again, something I talked about a lot. Resume.

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Speaker 1: What is the resume of deontay wilder? He has got

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Speaker 1: two high level wins. Those are both over Luis Ortiz.

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Speaker 1: He pushed Tyson fury to a draw in their first

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Speaker 1: fight but was knocked out into very entertaining subsequent fights

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Speaker 1: by fury. So I don't know. You you tell me.

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Speaker 1: First is deontay wilder, if you're retired tomorrow, Hall of fame? No, uh,

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Speaker 1: you just mentioned that what Bermains. Steverne is the only

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Speaker 1: champion he's beaten and other than that he's had good names,

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Speaker 1: good solid you know, title challengers. Chris Sarreola, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's one of them. Louise Ortiz there's another one. The

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Speaker 1: thing that makes him exceptional is that he's a power puncher.

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Speaker 1: He knocks everyone out. He has the highest knock out

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Speaker 1: one of the highest knockout ratios in boxing. But that

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Speaker 1: you don't get into the hall of fame for being

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Speaker 1: a huge puncher, or else Ernie Shavers will be in

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Speaker 1: in the hall of fame. That's why I compare wilder too.

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Speaker 1: Ernie Shavers went to distance with Muhammad Ali. He went

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Speaker 1: to distance with what Larry Holmes? He fought, he put

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Speaker 1: homes that remember that shot put. All I'm saying is

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Speaker 1: that Ernie Shavers is, pound for pound, Hall of fame

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Speaker 1: material of Punchers, but as far as skill goes, no,

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Speaker 1: that's where I put deante wilder. He made a big splash,

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Speaker 1: he made a whole lot of money, he's the he's

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Speaker 1: you know, he's entertaining with his right hand, but he

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Speaker 1: lacked a lot of skills. He's not polished enough to

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Speaker 1: be in the hall of fame. So No, you Ernie

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Speaker 1: Shavers record was, yeah, about ninety fights. I think fourteen

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Speaker 1: and one out of those seventy five knocks. I bet

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Speaker 1: you had at least sixties something knockouts. Win Sixty nine knockouts.

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Speaker 1: He was not telling you. One of my favorite clips,

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Speaker 1: whenever top rank puts it on social media's of Ernie

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Speaker 1: Shavers Fighting Larry Holmes. I don't think there is a shot,

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Speaker 1: I mean including the shot wilder hit fury with. I

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Speaker 1: would put the shavers on Holmes shot as one. I'm

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Speaker 1: shocked that he got up from like. The fact Larry

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Speaker 1: Holmes got up from that punch was wild. That was

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Speaker 1: a clean, straight right hand right down the pipes. Many people,

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Speaker 1: so many people. Well, first of all he's an underrated

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Speaker 1: great heavyweight, but so many people questioned Larry Holmes Heart,

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Speaker 1: you know, and Uh and and is, you know, because

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Speaker 1: he dominated with that Jab and he was so ali like.

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Speaker 1: He came after Ali. So he was in his shadow,

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Speaker 1: but man he was. He's one of the greatest heavyweights

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Speaker 1: in the world. Nary Holmes knows he has that World

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Speaker 1: Class Chin. I mean Ernie Shavers, Muhammad Ali says he's

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Speaker 1: the hardest that ever hit him and all he's been

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Speaker 1: in there with everybody. So yeah, I think that's that's who.

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Speaker 1: I think. I'm going to compare him to Ernie Shavers,

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Speaker 1: Deante Walden. It's a pretty fair comparison, now that I

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Speaker 1: think about it. WILDRE's record, of course, will be much

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Speaker 1: better than shavers, but that was at a different time

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Speaker 1: when guys are fighting all the time. And Shavers, what

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Speaker 1: did I say? Ninety wins or ninety fights totals out

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Speaker 1: of them, Um, and look at we had this conversation,

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Speaker 1: at least I did last week when he came to

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Speaker 1: Katilofkin Um. At some point, you are what your resume says.

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Speaker 1: You are right, and listen, man. It's the hall of fame.

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Speaker 1: Isn't the end of every fighter? Fighters want to win championships,

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Speaker 1: they want to make millions of dollars. He did that.

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Speaker 1: They want to shake up the world. He did that.

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Speaker 1: He was he wants to be part of memorable fights.

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Speaker 1: He was in a trilogy with the Tyson Fury, but

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Speaker 1: not the hall of fame. It's okay. There's people in

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Speaker 1: the hall of fame that are probably broke right now.

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Speaker 1: They wish they could have the millions of attention and

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Speaker 1: all that. Look, it's not everything that's cracked up to

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Speaker 1: be for all fighters. Yes, it's, it's, it's it's a

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Speaker 1: great accomplishment. You have fighters nowadays, Sergio saying I deserve

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Speaker 1: to be in the hall of fame, for Adrian Browner

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Speaker 1: to Keith Thurman and now deandre era of mentality. Everyone

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Speaker 1: wants that. No, it doesn't work that way. But I

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Speaker 1: don't think, by the way, I don't think it's too

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Speaker 1: late for wilder to get into the hall of fame.

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Speaker 1: Like if wilder goes on a run over the next

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Speaker 1: two years, if he beats Robert Hilennis, he beats Andy Ruise,

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Speaker 1: that would be a world title holder, that he would

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Speaker 1: have beat another one on his list. And then let's

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Speaker 1: say he goes out and fights Anthony Joshua, if he

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Speaker 1: would have picked up at least one win against Tyson fury,

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Speaker 1: I would say yes, but but look, I'm saying but

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Speaker 1: if it as his career goes on, like what if

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Speaker 1: he fights over the next twelve months and he has

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Speaker 1: wins over, let's say, hypothetically, Um Lennius ruise and then

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Speaker 1: maybe either sick or Anthony Joshua would that? That would

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Speaker 1: be an impressive run to me and that would put

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Speaker 1: I would have to say. I would have to agree absolutely. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but to go to have that, that TRIFECTA in the

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Speaker 1: next two years, it's unlikely. I sneaky like thet wilder fight.

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Speaker 1: If that happens, and I'm still skeptical that it would,

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Speaker 1: like that would be a pretty good fight. Like USA,

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Speaker 1: clearly the spirit boxer, but can wilder steak in that

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Speaker 1: right hand on the smaller fighter? I don't know. It's

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Speaker 1: still gonna be dangerous. I still want to see wilder

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Speaker 1: and Andruse o a j yeah, those two fights. I'm

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Speaker 1: all for it. Signed me up, take my money, pay

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Speaker 1: per view. Look, wilder versus Anthony Joshua was going to

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Speaker 1: be marketable until both of our that's gonna be marketable

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Speaker 1: across the pond. I don't think they'll put that fight

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Speaker 1: in the states, but here in l a Andy Ruise

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Speaker 1: up for us, for the hardcore fans. I would love

633
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 1: that fight. I would love that fight too. Like you know,

634
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: all the things that have gone on the last few

635
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 1: years where guys have not fought each other outside of

636
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: wilder and fury. Um You can kind of erase that

637
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: if you put these guys in the ring together. If

638
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,959
Speaker 1: we get wilder Joshua, if we get USI fury, if

639
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: we get US wilder, if we get Joshua Fury, there's

640
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: still an opportunity to have great heavyweight fights over the

641
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: next two years. No one's gonna get no one's gonna

642
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: be in a hurry to face he's gonna need names,

643
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 1: three titles. Why wouldn't they be in a HARMON'S gonna

644
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: be in te he's just too difficult to look good against.

645
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,760
Speaker 1: I don't think while they will get in there with him.

646
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: I don't think any anyone that wants to think wilder

647
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: would have more success against ustic than Joshua did yes. Why? Uh,

648
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: he fights taller. He uh, he unleashes that right hand

649
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 1: without he unleashes the right out a lot better and

650
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: he and he, he'll probably aim at the chest of USI,

651
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: which is what you're supposed to do with with fighters

652
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: like that. Aim for the part that's not moving, you know.

653
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: So just aim at the chest of them, mainly at

654
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: the shoulders, and as hard as while their hits. That's

655
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: gonna be enough. It's gonna just shake him off balance

656
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: from there, get a little flurry, get behind that stick again.

657
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard for us to dance his way

658
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: on the inside to pot shot. You know a fighter

659
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: like wilder. So yeah, I think while they gives him

660
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: headaches and you also not have to fight a guy

661
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: that was significantly taller than him like that was a

662
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: problem for a while, they're having to punch up at

663
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 1: Tyson fury and get leaned on by Tyson fury. He

664
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: presents a lot of problems, don't get me wrong, but

665
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: not the problems that cause Deonta so much trouble in

666
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 1: those fury fights. So I'd like to see it. Hopefully

667
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: it happens at some point in the next couple of years. Sergio,

668
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: hopefully you get your fight against Jake Paul at some point.

669
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670
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Speaker 1: she of course. Stevenson is the unified hundred and thirty

689
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Speaker 1: pound champion, Olympic silver medalist, already one of the top

690
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: pound for pound guys in all of boxing. On Friday

691
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: will face ropes, you can say so, in his backyard

692
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: of new ORK, New Jersey. That's a fight you can

693
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Speaker 1: watch on ESPN and ESPN PLUS so ICOR. Let's start

694
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 1: right where the news is. Uh, you missed weight by

695
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: about a pound and a half on Thursday. Can you

696
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 1: just kind of walk me through sort of what you

697
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: were feeling this week? Did you know you were gonna

698
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: Miss Uh no, I didn't know. I thought it was

699
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: a possibility of me getting down till one thirty. Um,

700
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: my last fight, it was real hard making one thirty,

701
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: but I thought it was just when I had at

702
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: least one more in me of doing whatever I can

703
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: to get to the weight. But Um, we tried everything.

704
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: I mean Um, from sitting into to run, into hitting

705
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: the shadow box, in the bags. We've done everything that

706
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: we could and when sweat don't come out no more,

707
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 1: that means it's over. It's all over. So they could

708
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: say what they want about me, not during the two hours.

709
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: I've been up since seven in the morning trying to

710
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: make weight. So two extra hours wasn't gonna get me there.

711
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: Did you feel coming in that this was going to

712
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: be your last fight at one thirty regardless? Yeah, I

713
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: told everybody I had a surprise for them. A Week

714
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: I've been saying it all week that I had a

715
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: surprise and that was gonna be my surprise. I didn't

716
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: want it in the way that it happened, but my

717
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: surprise was gonna be that I was moving up to

718
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 1: one five because I couldn't due to one thirty no

719
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: more like making one thirty is too hard for me.

720
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: So MHM, all right. So I still want to get

721
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: into your fight with Consey salth but I want to

722
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: ask you about something happened last week. And last weekend

723
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: we saw Canelo and Ganadi glafkin complete one of the

724
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 1: better trilogies of this generation. As you kind of look

725
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 1: ahead to your career, is there a fighter out there

726
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: that you can see yourself having that kind of rivalry with,

727
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 1: a trilogy, three fight type of rivalry with? Now, I

728
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: don't know. Um, we gotta see. I'm really dominant in

729
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 1: all my fights, so we gotta see. For it to

730
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,200
Speaker 1: be a trilogy, it had to be like something that's competitive.

731
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: So you gotta see if somebody to slow me down.

732
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: So you don't think anybody can be competitive enough with

733
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: you to give you a trilogy? I mean we got

734
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: to see it. At this moment of time, I haven't

735
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,399
Speaker 1: been in a competitive fight, so we'll see. Um, these

736
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 1: dudes supposed to be competitive, but I'll go in there

737
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: and make it look easy. But I ain't. Then I

738
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: can't talk too much of it right now. I'm a batter.

739
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: So so I gotta kill out. That's no look it.

740
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can't make weight. You can't make weight, your

741
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: body grows, you gotta move out of it just happens

742
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: to every young fighter. When I think of you in trilogies, though,

743
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: Javante Davis jumps to mind the most, because you guys

744
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: are probably gonna be in and around the same weight

745
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: class for the next few years. Davante seems pretty entrenched

746
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: at one thirty five. You'll probably spend a couple of

747
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 1: years at one five at least. That feels like the

748
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 1: kind of rivalry that could give us three good fights. Yeah,

749
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: I think that that that's Um a fight that will

750
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: be like the biggest best when it comes to fruition. But,

751
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm gonna say this to you because

752
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: I haven't seen you asked tank anything about me, so

753
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: I ain't asking. I ain't really answering no tank nothing

754
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: with anybody that didn't ask tank about me, because I

755
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: don't want to tank to even think that here on

756
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: my mind in any type of way. I'm not letter.

757
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: That would be about you, and he has said you're

758
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:29,160
Speaker 1: too small at this point. That was at tanks last fight,

759
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: but now you're not too small, now you're one. Yeah,

760
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 1: but you you get. You got the chance to ask

761
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: some questions and I don't never see you ask them

762
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: about me. Asked. Okay, that that's fair actually, but tech

763
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: doesn't talk to me all that much because I keep

764
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: yelling at him to fight somebody real, which is kind

765
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: of like asking about you. I mean it's kind of

766
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: the same thing. If he would talk to me sor,

767
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: I would happily ask him about you, but he doesn't

768
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 1: want to talk to me because of that. I'm just saying, man,

769
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say how to be no beef. I just

770
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 1: want the guy to fight Ryan Garcia and then you.

771
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: That's what I want for thank Davis. That's my goal.

772
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: But I get what you're saying. Um, I saw you

773
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 1: in tanks last you're a fan of boxing, obviously. Um,

774
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: your favorite fighter to watch is who right now in boxing? Yeah, boots. Really,

775
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 1: I enjoyed watching booze. I think he's a freaking nature. Why?

776
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: Why do you think that? I mean, I know he

777
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: hasn't got the chance to fight Oh, top level competition yet,

778
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: but boost so good that even when he do fight

779
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,919
Speaker 1: top level competition, he's gonna be able to show how

780
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 1: good he is. But I just think he's a really

781
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 1: good fighter. I enjoyed watching him. Yeah, and you can,

782
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: I'm sure, see things that that we can't. Like I

783
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 1: talked to basketball players all the time about skill guys

784
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: recognizing skill guys. Jayson tatum works out with Kevin Durant

785
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: because you know, real cognize as real when it comes

786
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: to skill. Is that similar with you, where you can

787
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: see a level of skill in boots that maybe not

788
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,879
Speaker 1: everybody can? Yeah, yeah, yeah, most definitely. Um, I've been

789
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: around him for a long time though. Two you gotta

790
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: realized my amateur days are going through Olympic trials and

791
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: national tournaments, I was around boots, saying I got to

792
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: see him fight, and just watching his development now is

793
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: like insane, like just seeing how good he is. And

794
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: I've seen him in the gym too, so I got

795
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: a real good look at him before I even came up.

796
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: came up with my thoughts and my thoughts staying where

797
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: is that? I feel like he's a hell of fighter.

798
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: I saw you say recently that you bet money on

799
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,240
Speaker 1: Devin Hanny to win his last fight. I'm just wondering,

800
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 1: do you ever bet on yourself before a fight you're

801
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 1: so confident going in, like, are you so sure sometimes

802
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna win that you better on yourself? I think

803
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: with this fight I might. I might place it though.

804
00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: I tell you, I though what the bet is that

805
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: I gotta cooklete my bed. So you have bet on

806
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: yourself for this one, is what you're saying, for this fight,

807
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: but no other fight I have I've never done it before. Um,

808
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 1: the pound for pound list gets a lot of debate.

809
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,320
Speaker 1: You know, Devin Haney has been adamant. He deserves a

810
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: place on the pound for poulding list. Where canella ranks

811
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: gets a lot of debate. Um, you are in my

812
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: top ten pound for pound, but I'm wondering where do

813
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: you think you belong in the pound for pound list?

814
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think maybe like seven, seven ish.

815
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: I think that's a solid spot for me. Um, I

816
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean it's a P nated list. So

817
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, as long as I'm warning,

818
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm cool. I think that I deserve to be on it.

819
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: At the end of the day. But as long as

820
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: I'm there, I'm good. I don't I don't care. Well

821
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm at. What will it take for Shakoor Stevenson to

822
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: get to number one? I think, think in the next

823
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: two to three years. Um, for me, just going and

824
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: through these weight classes and dominating these weight classes the

825
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: way that I am and go to one thirty five,

826
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: which is everybody by the act, like I'm about to

827
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: have the biggest task in the world. Um, just doing

828
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 1: stuff like that, it's gonna make me no more one.

829
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: When you look at the going through all the weight classes,

830
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: what do you think your Max Waite is one seven.

831
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: A couple of couple of years, a few years for that.

832
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: Maybe middal, late twenties. Yeah, probably, Um, late Twenties, Um,

833
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: early thirties maybe, but one seven for sure. You and

834
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: I have have you and I have talked about you

835
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 1: and I have talked about judging scoring a lot over

836
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: the years, my scoring a lot over the years. But

837
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,480
Speaker 1: like when you, like Canello, go off in last weekend

838
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: like that, those were not the right scorecards, like they

839
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: how much when you're going into a fight do you

840
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: think about how a judge is going to score it

841
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: and I try not to think about that. I mean,

842
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 1: my last fight I was a little bit thinking about

843
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: it just because of the crowd, like they kept screaming

844
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: every time you throw any punches at me, and they

845
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: just got the screaming. But, Um, I don't be worried

846
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: about that. I just going there do what I'm supposed

847
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: to do. I know I'll be winning, so I'm I

848
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: don't need to be thinking about what the judges doing. Um,

849
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: I try not to keep fights closed. I try to

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00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 1: dominate all my fights. That way I don't got to

851
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: think about what's going on with the judges. Um, this

852
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: fight coming up against cans south, fighting in Newark, your hometown,

853
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: second time in your career, uh, fighting at this arena

854
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: Um as a, as a world champion. How do you

855
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: feel about fighting so close to home? Some guys love it,

856
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: some guys think there's a little bit too much pressure

857
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: that comes with it, especially before the fight. How do

858
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: you feel about fighting at home? I'm the one who

859
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: press for this, I'm the person who said this all up.

860
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: I went to trank and told him I need to

861
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: be going back home. So I'm definitely not worried about

862
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: the pressure of it. I'm one of them type of people.

863
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Speaker 1: I look at it like it's just another day in

864
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: the office. Um, I think it's harder going through what

865
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: I went through my last fight, where it's like the

866
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: whole crowd is against you and you gotta shut them up. Um.

867
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: Now this time my crowd is with me, so it's like,

868
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Speaker 1: I'm cool, I'm straight, I think that I'm gonna go

869
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 1: in there and do what I'm supposed to do, and

870
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: this treated like it's another day in the Jim. Yeah,

871
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: you don't have a problem going into hostile territory, whether

872
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: it's a Valdez fight. I saw you tweeting right after

873
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: Joe Cordina won his piece of had a thirty pound title,

874
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: that you were ready to go overseas to the UK

875
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:42,719
Speaker 1: for that fight. Yeah, but all that did. Now let

876
00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: them boys at one thirty appy that I'm not dead

877
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:50,000
Speaker 1: no more. They shouldn't be very heavy. So before you

878
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 1: move up, you have consase out. Is this the fight

879
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,320
Speaker 1: that you wanted after the Valdez fight? Were you hoping

880
00:44:55,400 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: something else materialized after beating Valdez? Now I've this is

881
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: the fight I wanted. I think that this is the

882
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,799
Speaker 1: fight that I needed. Um, I also think that he

883
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: deserved it, because a lot of people say that he

884
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: won the fight. So, Um, I disagree with him winning,

885
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 1: though I don't I didn't score home to win the fight.

886
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: I think he let up the gas and let Valdez

887
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: in the fight. So it was either a draw or

888
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: one of y'all won. It wasn't like a I won

889
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: clearly and I got robbed, like I don't don't respect

890
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 1: that just because of the fact that I felt like

891
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: he let off the gas. If he would have fought

892
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,799
Speaker 1: the first four round I mean the last rounds like

893
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: he did the first four rounds, will be calling him champ. Yeah,

894
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: his fight against belt, that was probably the best of him.

895
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 1: Two fights earlier, I thought he was kind of gifted

896
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: the decision against Louis Coria. Like, what are you expecting

897
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: from him in this fight? What do you expect from

898
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: that too? I I've seen that him, like him like

899
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: pressure when when Korea's up to him, and he even

900
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 1: dropped them, I think in the second round, I want

901
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: to say, with a left hook he went down. So

902
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean for whom to just act like

903
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: he just a a champion and all of this stuff?

904
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: He was saying at the press conference. I didn't understand

905
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: because if that's the case, you'll be champion. Bro So,

906
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: one thirty five is is fertile ground for you. Are

907
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,399
Speaker 1: you looking at that division saying, all right, well, Devin

908
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 1: Handy's there, uh moment, Schenko is there. Bob Baron wants

909
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: to match the two of them early next year. Maybe

910
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: I get the winner of that fight. Or have you

911
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: not looked that far ahead? Now? I ain't looking that

912
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: far ahead because I ain't worry about who there at

913
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: the end of the day. Um, whoever it is, they're there,

914
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm near now, like the man is

915
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: in the way class now, and that's how I look

916
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: at it. Well, you court. It's always good to talk

917
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 1: to you, man. I always appreciate you calling me out

918
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: for certain things, like my scorecard. Is still is, is

919
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: still great. You're wrong about that, but I will next time.

920
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: Next time I get a chance to talk to tank,

921
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: the first thing I'm gonna ask him is do you

922
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: want to fight Shakor Stevenson? I promise you that. Love

923
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 1: as you asked him about me, did not to answer

924
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: questions about him. What good luck or my fight score?

925
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: A right man, I'll be scoring it from TV ON

926
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Speaker 1: ESPN on Friday. You better believe it. And two, three, four,

927
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: I have a long ago. So you gave me. You

928
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,360
Speaker 1: gave me a death stare at that. When I was

929
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,959
Speaker 1: kiddingly saying that I gave Valdez a bunch of rounds,

930
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: you gave me this death stare at Barkley Center. He

931
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 1: said he didn't win a single round. Nah, I didn't

932
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 1: win nothing. He may have got one, maybe, maybe, if

933
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 1: you try to give him one. Oh, sure, good luck

934
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Speaker 1: on Friday. Man. Good to talk to you when we

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Speaker 1: come back. This week's picks brought to you by Fan Duel.

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Speaker 1: All right, time now for this week's picks, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by our friends over at Fan duel. I've been

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Speaker 1: doing pretty well with these picks of late. I don't

939
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: know if you've been following along or betting along. Last

940
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: week I told you Canelo Alvarez to win by decision.

941
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: What happened? Canelo Alvarez won by decision. A couple of

942
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: weeks before that, Andy Ruise by decision. What happened? Andy

943
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: Ruise by decision. So if you want to keep making money,

944
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: keep betting with me and stick with me this week

945
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,239
Speaker 1: because I have an upset for you this week. Joe

946
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,240
Speaker 1: Joyce Against Joseph Parker. Over in the UK. Joseph Parker

947
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: right now, according to Fanduel, plus one fifty eight. That's

948
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: the bet. I like Joe Joyce, a heavy hitter. He

949
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: knocks guys out. He is relentless with his pressure. That's

950
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: how we got Danny Dubois a few years ago. But

951
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 1: Joseph Parker one of the Best Chins in the heavyweight division.

952
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: He went the distance with Andy Ruise, he went the

953
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,560
Speaker 1: distance with Anthony Joshua. He went the distance with dillian white.

954
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: He can go the distance against Joe Joyce. I think

955
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:57,359
Speaker 1: Joseph Parker is the better boxer in this situation. So

956
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 1: if you want to make money, Bet Joseph Park or

957
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: Jo Jah Parker by points is at plus two ninety.

958
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,880
Speaker 1: Want to make even more money that on that. Parker

959
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,320
Speaker 1: by decision, Parker by points. That's how you should bet.

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Speaker 1: Get Rich. Keep betting. Those are my picks this week,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Fan Duel. That's it for this

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Speaker 1: week's episode. My thanks to Sergio Mora and she cour

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Speaker 1: Stevenson for joining the show. As always, subscribe, Rate Review

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Speaker 1: this podcast on Apple Podcast, spotify, wherever you download podcast,

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Speaker 1: and I'll see you next week