1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: What's up? Everybody walking to move the sticks? DJ? Bucky 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: back with you? Buck? How you doing, man? Man, I'm good. 4 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: I'm really good because it seems like we have football 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: around the corner. Uh, so I'm really excited about it. Yeah. 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: By the way, does it bother you the people that 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,919 Speaker 1: you almost feel like are rooting against us sometimes? I 8 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: mean it's just a little like, Oh, we can't do this, 9 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: we can't do that, we can't do this, we can't 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: do that. Like I don't know, man, I'm looking at 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: some of these other leagues and how they're doing with 12 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: the testing and the protocols and and players being responsible, 13 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: and I've been encouraged what I've seen. I know football 14 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: is different with the contact obviously, and we're not completely 15 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 1: in a bubble like the NBA. But as much bad 16 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: news is floating around in the world right now, I 17 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 1: think in the sports world, I'm actually am feeling more 18 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: optimistic right now. I'm really optimistic about the NFL. You know, 19 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: the college thing I think is a different with you, Uh, 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: the NFL, when you're dealing with professionals, you're dealing with 21 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: guys who are uh employers, employed ease and workers, and 22 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: this is their career. I'm very very positive that they're 23 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: going to take the necessary steps to kind of protect themselves. 24 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm also positive that the NFL is going to make 25 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: sure that they protect the players and put them in 26 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: environments that work. And so we have seen over the 27 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: last couple of days. We saw the tweet storm from 28 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: the players. We saw some of the concessions that the 29 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: NFL made to try and get this thing started. I 30 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,039 Speaker 1: have always and we have always been optimistic that the 31 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: NFL was going to start and start on time, and 32 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm very very cautiously optimistic that is going to continue 33 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: to start and and perceive as we've talked about. Yeah, 34 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: look and Bucky and myself were not doctors, but I 35 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: do think the difference between the NFL and college I 36 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: saw a report today that that talked about the testing 37 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: price tag. Did you see that said it would be 38 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: a seventy five million dollar price tag on testing. The 39 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: NFL working with the company to be able to provide 40 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: I think up to a hundred twenty tests per day, 41 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: and then on top of that, if teams want to 42 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: go over that amount, then they can cover that cost themselves, 43 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: but you split up the seventy five by the thirty two. 44 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: I don't want to say dropping the bucket, but it's 45 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: very a four able in order to salvage a season. 46 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: It's a minimal investment when you look at it from 47 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: that standpoint. But that's the difference between the NFL and 48 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: college college where you're talking about. One of the numbers 49 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: I had heard was twenty five thousand a week um 50 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: for them, and that was with one test a week, 51 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: which I think they were planning on maybe Wednesday if 52 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: I remember correctly. That's a whole different ballgame versus being 53 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: able to daily test, like the NFL would have the 54 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: financial backing to be able to get that accomplished, because 55 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:28,640 Speaker 1: it seems to me that's the answer, right, is the 56 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: testing and then once you get a positive test, to 57 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: be able to remove that person to keep the spread 58 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: to a minimum. And I just don't know that the 59 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: college is going to be able to have the resources 60 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: to pull that off. Now. I don't think they're going 61 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: to be able to do it, but I think the 62 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,799 Speaker 1: NFL is uniquely qualified to be able to pull this off, 63 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: and to pull this off in a minute, in which 64 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: we talked about like DJ like in in reading a 65 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: lot of things outside of football. Uh, this time period 66 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: has given us an opportunity to what I call prune 67 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: two trees. There's a lot of stuff that we did 68 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: in the football world. It might have been unnecessar series 69 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: when it came to, hey, let's bring ninety players to camp, 70 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 1: Let's have all of these other guys because let's let's 71 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: be honest about training camp. When you got the training 72 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: camp and you're cutting down the fifty three of those ninety, 73 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: only about ten, two, maybe twelve guys had legitimate shots 74 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: to unseat other people. And I hate to kind of 75 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: be the bear of bad news, but that's what it was. 76 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 1: What you're going to see now with eight guys you're 77 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: now talking about with the practice squads maybe bumping up 78 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: to sixteen, you're talking about maybe ten, eleven, fifteen guys 79 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: being able to get cut. You're going to see more 80 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: competitive battles, and you're going to see people bring people 81 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: to camp that have legitimate opportunities to win jobs. They're 82 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: not going to waste their time and money and efforts 83 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: on guys that don't have legitimate opportunities to make their teams. Yeah, 84 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: it's it's a good point. And it sounds like I 85 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: haven't heard the final uh number that we're taught. I 86 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 1: think eighty is the number that I've heard folded around. 87 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: It seems like that's what we're gonna be looking at 88 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: it going down to that number. And then so that 89 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: eliminates ten guys right off the top right there. Uh, 90 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be you know, I would imagine you'll 91 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: see some probably some early cuts to that that eight 92 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: will be trimmed rather quickly. Get a look at some 93 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: of those guys, and then move on because the final 94 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,919 Speaker 1: ruster is now do they move it up to fifty five? 95 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: So so fifty five plus sixteen, I mean that right there, 96 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 1: push you at seventy one. So now you're talking about 97 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: teen guys that you have to move. And because of 98 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: the way the practice squad thing is going to be, 99 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: you're going to want to have your course squad together, 100 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: meaning practice squad and everybody else. Yeah, so you want 101 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: to get that together, and then the practice squad guys 102 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 1: would be the ones that would be churned over and 103 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: those things, and so you don't want to waste a 104 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: lot of time. You want to get it going. And 105 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: because you don't have preseason games, a let's get to 106 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: work in terms of privacyng and preparing for week one. Um, 107 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,679 Speaker 1: you want to get through the evaluation phase pretty early, 108 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: all right, I want to I want to get into 109 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: something that we talked about before we went on year 110 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: and I think this is Uh, it's fast to me. 111 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: I know. Um, we just kind of brainstorm, right, just 112 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: kind of I bring up an idea, you bring up 113 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: an idea, kind of go back and forth. Because if 114 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: we look at this rookie class uniquely challenged with the 115 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: lack of an off season, now it appears as if 116 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: we have no preseason games, is gonna be no joint practices. 117 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 1: So those live reps that that would try and prepare 118 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: these guys to get them ready to go don't exist. 119 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: So we were brainstorming ideas of in this environment where 120 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: you see obstacles, how do you create opportunities? What can 121 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: we do to get these guys up and running. Uh. 122 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: And one of the things that I talked about, something 123 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:37,000 Speaker 1: we've talked about on the podcast before, which is really 124 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: trying to tap into the virtual reality. I think it's 125 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: a great tool. Um, I've had a chance my kids 126 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: actually got one because they wanted to. That was like 127 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 1: their big gift or whatever was to get one of those, 128 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 1: and uh, it is. It is very realistic when you 129 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: put those glasses on. So to be able to be 130 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: a quarterback and to be able to rep plays, to 131 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: be able to work through reeds, to be able to 132 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: see coverages. Um. I think that's a tremendous valuable tool 133 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 1: for them, even for you know, a safety to be 134 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: able to identify formations, call things out and just versus 135 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: just clicking on the tape and watching on there. I 136 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: think it does come to life a little bit and 137 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: that could be one of the tools to help these 138 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 1: guys when they aren't able to get on the grass. Yeah, 139 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: it's funny that you mentioned virtual reality because I think 140 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: that is a huge tool that can accelerate the process 141 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: when it comes to getting comfortable, getting acclimated to the game. Uh, 142 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: not only for your young players, but your veterans getting 143 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: reacquainted to the game. Another thing that you can do. Um, 144 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: I think you have to be very creative with your meetings. 145 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: If these meetings are going to be conducted like they 146 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: were conducted throughout the offseason, you have to find other 147 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: ways to keep your guys engaged and talking to UH 148 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: an assistant coach for an a f C team, he 149 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: talked about, look, man, you gotta empty the bucket to 150 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: make sure that you can capture their mind. You also 151 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: have to put more on the players in terms of 152 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 1: their accountability and responsibility. So some of your veterans may 153 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: need to lead the meeting some of that stuff that 154 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: you talk about. We may be able to watch film 155 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: as a group, but make real live checks in the meeting. 156 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: So in virtual reality, if you can imagine the tape 157 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: is playing, I am the quarterback. Whatever happens on the screen, 158 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: I bark out real signals, real audibles, real adjustments in 159 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: real time. You do the same thing. On defense, we're 160 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: going to have to utilize simulated reps to get our 161 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: guys up to speed. What we can't do physically, we 162 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: have to figure out a way to get it done mentally. 163 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 1: All right, We're talking about a lot of that on 164 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. One of the other 165 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: things we discussed was, you know, to get these guys 166 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: ready to tackle, and something I would love to get 167 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: your thoughts on as a high school coach, because you're 168 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: limited in the amount of contact you can have during 169 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: practice to get these guys ready to play week one 170 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: of a high school season. It's a similar challenge now 171 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: with the NFL. Really it wasn't a lot. It was 172 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: a lot more thud in the NFL than actually taking 173 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 1: guys to the ground. But I think now you're gonna 174 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: have fewer live tackles when you eliminate the preseason than 175 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: we've ever seen before the start of a regular season. 176 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: So being able to get some tackling work in without 177 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: tackling buck explain that one. Yeah, So look, this is 178 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: going to be the biggest part of it. And I 179 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 1: would say teams in the past that had advantage. The 180 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks were always a really good tackling team. Pete 181 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: Carroll was on the cutting edge of innovation when they 182 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: came up with the Hawk tackling, the rugby style tackling 183 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: that they were able to utilize the entire year in 184 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: the off season meeting. They didn't have pads on, but 185 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: we've seen rugby games. Rugby guys do a great job 186 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: of shoulder tackling and getting guys down some of the 187 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: drills that the Seahawks used to use um without pass on. 188 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: We would be I'm on my knees, you're standing up, 189 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: I grabbed, squeeze and roll you to the ground. I 190 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: think we will see more of those things utilized. Also, 191 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: if you think about the IVY League being able to 192 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: make phone calls two teams in the IVY League and coaches, 193 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 1: because Buddy TeVeS at Dartmouth was one of the first 194 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: coaches to go through what he called contactless practices, meaning 195 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: they didn't have live contact. They utilized those remote dummies, 196 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: they utilized bags that utilize um people tackling, much like 197 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: the Seahawks did. I think you can do those things. 198 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: In fact, for our interested listeners, if you go to 199 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: YouTube and you google uh Dartmouth Tackling Buddy Tevens, there's 200 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: a twenty five minute video that will illustrate exactly what 201 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. They basically tackle with dummies the entire year, 202 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,599 Speaker 1: and DJ they talked about their numbers of mistackles, the 203 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: percentages went down. I think creative coaches who focus on 204 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 1: the basics tackling, pursuit angles, rap, squeeze, getting guys to 205 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,960 Speaker 1: the ground without beating their players up, they're going to 206 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: see the production be at the level that they want. 207 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: While also not beating their guys up the twenty one 208 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: days that they have for the strength and conditioning and 209 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 1: the ten days of unpadded practices. The really good teams 210 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: will maximize that by making sure they get the tackling 211 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: done without putting their guys at homes way. Yeah, I 212 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be crucial. I think, you know, as 213 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: much as we both appreciate kind of old school mentality 214 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 1: and old school toughness, you better have some new school methodol. 215 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: You better have some new school um techniques in order 216 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 1: to be able to get your guys ready to go. 217 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: Because I'm not saying you can win the super Bowl 218 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: in the first four weeks, but you can take yourself 219 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: out of the playoffs in the first four weeks. You 220 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 1: put you post a zero and go over four to 221 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: start the season, you're not going to postseason. So you've 222 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: got to be able to at least play five hundred balls. 223 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: We've talked about earlier in the year, and that's why 224 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: you've got to be able to get these guys some 225 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: reps without necessarily getting reps. Yeah, so you gotta get 226 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: the rep all all of those reps matter, and the 227 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: people that have taken the time in the off season 228 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: because what we had, we haven't had time to do anything. 229 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: So the coaches that have been able to put plans 230 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: in place, that have been able to think about the 231 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: alternative waves to practice are going to be the ones 232 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: that are head of the curve. How can you get 233 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: your guys ready to tackle without necessarily beating them up 234 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: using the donuts, uh, using the tackling dummies, the bags, 235 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: the remote control dummies where you can tackle. You have 236 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: to have all of those tools in your toolbox to 237 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: get your players players ready to play. And let's be honest, 238 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: when the game is kicked off and we start in September, 239 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: if he goes according to plan, no one's gonna care 240 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 1: about the challenges when they play that first regular season 241 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: game announces and stuff, we'll talk, but the wins and 242 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: the losses count. You better be able to get your 243 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: guys better to play it. So you have to be 244 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: adaptable and learning how to tackle without live contact is 245 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: going to be critical. All right here, here's here's another idea, um, 246 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: and you can speak to this. Buck. Haven't been on 247 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 1: the players side as well as the personnel side, but 248 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: normally as you go through training camp, it is a 249 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: focus on yourself mentality, focus on you as an individual, 250 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: focus on you as an offense or defense, and you 251 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: as a team. We worry about opponents once we get 252 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: into game prep week. We're not gonna spend a lot 253 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: of time working on them. Now in in O t 254 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: a s in the off season, you might take one practice. 255 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: I know we did a bunch of teams I was 256 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,959 Speaker 1: with where they would take uh, you know, one week. 257 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: So if you had four O t a s that 258 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: week and where you know you're with the Ravens, or 259 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: say you have three O t as you're with the Ravens, Uh, 260 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,679 Speaker 1: Monday you would work on the Browns, Tuesday would be 261 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: the Bengals. You know, third day would be the Steelers. Whatever. 262 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: So you just get one practice. You put guys in 263 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: in pennies and you know, with the numbers on them, 264 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: and you kind of get a little taste of what 265 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: you're going to see inside the division. But very minimal 266 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 1: preparation in that regard. I think with this, uh, this 267 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: lack of practice time that you're gonna have with this 268 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: whole uh get up to speed ramp up that they're 269 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: talking about, this might be a way to fill some 270 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 1: of that time with these guys mentally is start really 271 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: preparing for some of your opponents, both scheme wise and 272 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: personnel wise. Use some of this time where you you 273 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: might not be able to get on the field and 274 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: rep your own stuff. But this is a luxury of 275 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: time you have now to really study your early opponents 276 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: in the season, your divisional opponents. The coaches that traditionally 277 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: do that, but now I think the players that could 278 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 1: be a way to kind of get some value out 279 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,079 Speaker 1: of this time. Yeah, I think it is a way 280 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: to give value. And so dj Um, based on the 281 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: proposal that we have, uh there forty eight days to 282 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: get ready to play for the first game if they 283 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: don't have a preseason game, twenty one of those days 284 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: of straight the conditioning, ten days unpadded practices, fourteen days 285 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: of padded practices. So um, I think what you're talking 286 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: about is really focused on the first quarter of the 287 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: season and while you're beginning to put in what we 288 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: call a reinstallation, because what happens is you install the 289 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: entire offense and defense in the off season O t 290 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: s and the like. Typically when you get the training camp, 291 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 1: you reinstall all of that information. But an accelerated rate. 292 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,680 Speaker 1: I think that happens. But while you're doing that, you're 293 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: also doing that with very specific opponents in mind. So 294 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: you're beginning to put what we call a skeletal UH 295 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: structure for a game plan. So I found the Baltimore 296 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: Rags and the same My week one opponent is Pittsburgh, 297 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: So we begin to put a skeletal game plan for 298 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh still is. We work on that for a 299 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 1: couple of days, then we move on to week two, 300 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,680 Speaker 1: and then when we get back to game week, they'll 301 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: have to be like, Okay, I remember going over this coach, 302 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: but at least we've gone through the heart, the hard 303 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: installation part of it, and now it's just a re 304 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: you so we can get ready to play. But yeah, 305 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 1: I think your emphasis is more on Yes, let's tend 306 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: to our own knitting. Let's make sure everyone understands our fundamentals, 307 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 1: but let's also look ahead to the opponents that we 308 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: have to play, and let's start preparing for those guys. Yeah, 309 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: which brings me to another conversation we're having, which is 310 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: the advantages of UH. We're talking about the disadvantages of 311 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: newness and Carolina Panthers are a great example of this. 312 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: You know, our friend Field Yates tweeted this out. I 313 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: think the only team in the NFL with new offense 314 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: and defensive coordinator, new head coach, new quarterback. The only 315 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 1: team that has all those new people in those roles. Now, 316 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: we know it's familiarity. They were Teddy Bridgewater and Joe Brady. 317 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: They were together with the Saints, so there's some familiarity there. 318 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: I think that will smooth some of it. But while 319 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: that's a disadvantage for them in terms of continuity and 320 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: being ready to go at the beginning of the season, 321 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: how about the challenge of trying to prepare for a 322 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: team that you know so little about. If you've got 323 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: to play them early in the season, you're not gonna 324 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: have any preseason tape to go off of. Scheme wise, 325 00:14:57,600 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: offense and defense. You're gonna wonder is it a mix 326 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: of what you know did a l s U or 327 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: what they did at Baylor, Um is gonna be your 328 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: new stuff? I mean, I think there's a challenge in 329 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: and built an advantage I would say for for a 330 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: team like Carolina, for teams who got to play them 331 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: early in the year, Yeah, I think so. And I 332 00:15:13,040 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: think we saw a little bit of this um leaving 333 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: last year with Cliff Kingsburg trying to adjust today what 334 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: is his version of the air area going to look 335 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: like in the NFL? And as they continue to evolve 336 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: and adapt, it kind of morphed into more traditional NFL ball. 337 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: But the preparation part earlier in the year is hard 338 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: for the opponent because the unknown is always scary, and 339 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 1: when you're coordinating, you just don't know, how are they 340 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: going to attack us when they're on defense, how do 341 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: we attack them when they are on offense? Those things 342 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: are kind of scary. You mentioned a point though, that 343 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: is critical, I think, and I think it's a big 344 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: advantage UH veteran teams, teams that are well established in 345 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: their scheme and system, Teams that the personnel hasn't changed 346 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: much from year to year. The New Orleans Saints come 347 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: to mind, how Drew Brees in that offense. They s 348 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: had to ground running. This is what they've been doing forever. Uh, 349 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: not a lot of adjustment. The only guy who probably 350 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: has to come up to speed will be Emmanuel Sanders, 351 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: and he's a veteran. Shouldn't take them long to learn 352 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: that offense. UH teams like the Baltimore Ravens, I think 353 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: have a an advantage already in their uniqueness in the 354 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: way that they play. But now add to that, an 355 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: option team in the National Football League that's already counterculture 356 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: now has the ability to continue to remake and evolve 357 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: their current system. We saw last year they did something 358 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: that we hadn't even really seen before, their triple option 359 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: offense with Lamar Jackson. Now, you had given Greg Roman 360 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: an entire offseason to add toys. If I am him, 361 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 1: I enveil those new gadgets and tricks early in the 362 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: season because every defensive coordinator has studied what they did 363 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: last year, looked at all of their games, broke them down. 364 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: They feel like they have a good plan. When they 365 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: unveil something new the first quarter of the season, it 366 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: is going to throw teams off their scent because they 367 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's a huge advantage. And as 368 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: you talked about, the first quarter of the season is 369 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: about getting out to a fast start. Three and one, 370 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: four and oh, the magic number in the National Football 371 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 1: League is ten. If you can get the ten wins, 372 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: it pretty much guarantees that you get into the playoffs. 373 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: I gotta come out hot. I have to get my 374 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: team ready to play right out the gate. So I 375 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: was thinking about a different team. I was thinking about 376 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: the forty Niners and thinking about a team that was 377 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: so close, um to win a Super Bowl, just couldn't 378 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: quite finish it. It. Look at the team that beat them, 379 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. What are the Kansas City Chiefs done. 380 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: They've They've taken care of their own guys, right, They've 381 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 1: got Chris Jones contract and obviously my homes contract done. 382 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: They're able to keep you know, the pieces in place there. 383 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins comes back. But if I'm the forty Niners, 384 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying, man, I'm this close. I have in a 385 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: in a rarity to have the year they had and 386 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: to not lose a coordinator. Right, So they still have 387 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 1: obviously Kyle Shane it's calling the offensive place. But to 388 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: keep your defensive coordinator and not have to change up anything, 389 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: you have a limited off season. So that's already a 390 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,360 Speaker 1: built in advantage for them. With the familiar to the quarterbacks, 391 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: and that's been in the system for several years now. 392 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: If there was a team to me that's that you 393 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: would look at and say, hey, let's go for it, man, like, 394 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: this is all set up for us. Let's let's let's 395 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: be ultra aggressive. Let's go try and look at the 396 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: trade market here. Maybe maybe that's a deadline, Maybe it's 397 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: early in the year, maybe it's before the season starts. 398 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: Who knows, But to me, I could make a strong 399 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: case for the forty niners. Of any team you are 400 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: on the doorstep, if you make an aggressive move right now, 401 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: it could be what gets you over the top. I 402 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: think about the Chiefs last year. The move for Tyron Matthew. 403 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: I think was kind of a little bit, you know, 404 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: that was that little thing they needed a little edge 405 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: to get them over the hump. Is there you know? 406 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: Is there another team you can think of that comes 407 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: to mind, because that, to me is the team I 408 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 1: would think would be motivated to make a run at 409 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: this thing. Well, I mean it teams that we've seen 410 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: that have been the most aggressive. Traditionally, the Philadelphia Eagles 411 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: have always been a team that is unafraid of taking 412 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 1: chances and when they look at themselves, especially early because 413 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: DJ you know how this goes. We we always waxed 414 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: but in the off season about how we feel about 415 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: our team or whatever. But traditionally with preseason games, that 416 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:09,320 Speaker 1: first preseason game is telling, and after that game we 417 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: begin to make decisions on a we need to go 418 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 1: get a veteran player, the young guy that we were 419 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: counting on. We don't know, we have to do it. 420 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 1: I think now it happens a little more in practice. 421 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 1: You have to look at where you are and really 422 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: try and imagine, Hey, man, are we good enough to 423 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: beat Dallas? Are we good enough to beat the Niners 424 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:30,119 Speaker 1: and the Bucks and the teams that we expect to 425 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: be at the top of the division or at the 426 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 1: top of the conference. If not, what is the one 427 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: player that could go pushes over the top? Is it 428 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: a wide receiver, Is it a running back? Is it 429 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 1: another pass rusher? Because Jadeveon Clowney is out there, who 430 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: is out there that could help us in a one 431 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: year run get over the top. I do believe a 432 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: team that is aggressive, has cat flexibility, and has an 433 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: aggressive mindset can absolutely get it. Yeah, I'm just looking 434 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: at teams and this is what we talked about before, 435 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 1: which is the uncertainty of the college season and impacting 436 00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: the value of a first round pick. Obviously, the top 437 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: of you have a top ten pick, you're gonna know 438 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: who those guys are, and you're gonna feel more comfortable 439 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: about that evaluation. But if you're a team that feels 440 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: like you're a lock to go to the postseason, I 441 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: mentioned the Niners. UM we talked about the Ravens being 442 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: another one. I think the Saints would be one. Obviously, 443 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are where they are. UM. I think those 444 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: teams feel like kind of obvious teams. The other team 445 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: I would actually throw in the mix. If you're the 446 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. Um, we saw them last year make the 447 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: trade for me if Fitzpatrick ended up being an unbelievable 448 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: home run trade for them. But maybe they say, hey Ben, 449 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:40,400 Speaker 1: this might be it. This might be the last year 450 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: for Ben. So maybe they are a team that says, 451 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: let's go for it again. Last year we hit gold 452 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: with making Fitzpatrick. We figure, if Ben stays healthy, we're 453 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: picking in the late twenties, hopefully picking thirty two. UM, 454 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: maybe that could be a team that could make make 455 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: a run at it. Here. In trade picks, I just 456 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: I think we're going to see, um the value of 457 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: next year's picks. If there's no college season, or if 458 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: it looks like that's you know, a spotty at best, 459 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 1: I think teams would be more willing to part with 460 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: those picks. Uh. No, one, they're not gonna have a 461 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: true evaluation on those kids. Yeah, I think it's a 462 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: smart way to approach it. I think teams that see 463 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: themselves picking into twenties. I'm always an advocate of player 464 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: over pick, uh, particularly in those situations. If I can 465 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: get a proven player, a guy with a track record 466 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: of having success, I am okay going to get that 467 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: player over a pick, which is kind of like what 468 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: is behind door number two. UM. In these situations, in 469 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 1: a unique set of circumstances where we don't know what 470 00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 1: the college game is going to bear uh in one, 471 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: we also don't know what the cap situation is going 472 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: to be like in two UM, I think if you 473 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: can make a move that helps your team make a 474 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: real run at it and then maybe you have to 475 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: dismantle it or change it, I think you have to 476 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: consider that move. I think right now, all options should 477 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: be on the table, and I think the best team 478 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: builders are willing to utilize whatevery option is availing, but 479 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 1: to them to make sure today able to put the 480 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: best product on the field. All right, this is the 481 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,959 Speaker 1: last topic I want to hit on today, a little bit, 482 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 1: a little bit shorter on the podcast today, but this 483 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: is the thing I was thinking about as well. We've 484 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: heard the college coaches are gonna get a mulligan for 485 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: this year. So let's assume, let's assume the power five 486 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: goes off, right, that we we have a season in 487 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: the a C C SEC Pack twelve Big twelve. They're 488 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: all rolling big ten um. That seems to be And 489 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,200 Speaker 1: we talked about hot seats with with coaches for two factors. 490 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 1: Number one, this year, you've just had a weird year. 491 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: You don't know what's gonna happen with the health of 492 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: your players. You haven't had the full run up to 493 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 1: the season, the off season, so we can't judge a 494 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: head coach based off what happens this year. The other thing, 495 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: um is financial. Right if you're committed, if you're a 496 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: college uh university and you're committed to a coach for 497 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: the next three or four years, the days of maybe 498 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: you know, writing that twenty million dollar check to get 499 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 1: rid of him, to then get the right to write 500 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: a thirty million dollar check to bring in his replacement. 501 00:22:57,520 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: Not in this climate. I don't see that happening. Now. 502 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: My question is Buck, we said the same thing with 503 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: the NFL. Are some of these coaches that are kind 504 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: of in big years, Um, are they going to be 505 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: giving a mulligan here with with where we are? I 506 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: think everyone has to be physically responsible. UM. I think 507 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: with an uncertainty surrounding the money in the collegiate game 508 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: and also in the program, I think you have to 509 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,680 Speaker 1: you have to really pause before you make these dramatic decisions, 510 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: particularly when it revolves and it involves an outlay of cash. 511 00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: When you talk about guys that have years, multiple years 512 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: remaining on their deal, man, it's hard to see paying 513 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,360 Speaker 1: fifteen million for someone walking out the door to then 514 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:39,119 Speaker 1: add more money to the bottom line. I think you 515 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,640 Speaker 1: have to give these coaches every opportunity to build their program. 516 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: And I think about a guy, and typically Cincinnati is 517 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: not a team that moves on from their coaches, but 518 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: I think about a guy like Zach Taylor. Zach Taylor 519 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: was a young coach last year, has struggles. He now 520 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: gets the number one pick, but he hasn't had an 521 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 1: off season, Like, what do we make of this? Year, Like, 522 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 1: how can we really truly evaluate him on this year? 523 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: I think he has to be guaranteed to get one 524 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,640 Speaker 1: a guy like Matt Patricia. I know the four family 525 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: ownership talked about this has to be the year they 526 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: see dramatic improvement. But how can you really evaluate him 527 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 1: in these circumstances? If they play hard, if they're competitive, 528 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 1: is that enough to extend him and give him another opportunity? 529 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: I think it probably has to be. The money definitely 530 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: would play a part in the decisions that owners have 531 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: to make because with not as much revenue coming in, 532 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: I think you have to evaluate each and every dollar 533 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: that is going out, and that really relates to the 534 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 1: coaches in the coaching staff. Yeah, and I'm actually hopeful 535 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 1: something good can come out of this and that maybe 536 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: we'll exercise more patients with some of these guys. I mean, 537 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: we everybody talks about Belichick right as a great example, 538 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: just be patient. He was, he was figuring it out, 539 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: he was getting it together. Obviously, the move happened from 540 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: Cleveland to Baltimore, wins with the Browns, uh, and that 541 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: was it for him. But I think you know, you 542 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: go back and look at John on Wooden's tracker. I 543 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,439 Speaker 1: can go through all these great coaches have compass all 544 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: these amazing things and look at their early struggles. But 545 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: they were afforded the time to be able to work 546 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: through that. And maybe the fear of the financial, fear 547 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: of getting rid of some of these guys, maybe we'll 548 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: see some some diamonds in the rough kind of emerge 549 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: after giving a little bit more time some patients there 550 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: to develop their plan. Yeah, I believe. So. I believe 551 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: that is the big part because a lot of times 552 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: we want instant gratification, we won't do results to happen 553 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: right away. And you know, man, team building is a 554 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: is a process. It's a process. It's a mix of 555 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: draft picks, it's a mist of veterans, it's a mix 556 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: of bringing free agency in that can get you over 557 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: the top. And it doesn't always come together uh in 558 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: the immediate uh point of view. And so I think 559 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: you have to hire good people and then allow them 560 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: to kind of set the plan and work the plan 561 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: down a lot, no doubt. Um, is there anything else 562 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,400 Speaker 1: you want to hit on here? Buck? I know we're 563 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: a little bit abbreviated today. We both have a meeting 564 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: we've got to go to but uh it's fast. I 565 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,199 Speaker 1: think I'm just glad we've got we've got what appears 566 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,120 Speaker 1: to be football coming up. Yeah, I think it's it's 567 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 1: really important that, uh, we can appreciate football being back. 568 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: We can appreciate the Rockies coming into twenty eight at 569 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,360 Speaker 1: the Vetterman's Report and football goes off according to plan. 570 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,880 Speaker 1: I think would be much more appreciative of the game 571 00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: and what it brings to us in a bunch of 572 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: different areas. I do want to remind everybody we've got 573 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 1: the TV show coming back Thursday, July six, Eastern UM 574 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: that I believe it's gonna be a half hour episode 575 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: this week, and it's gonna be followed up at six 576 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 1: thirty with our Justin Herbert three sixty episode, which has 577 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: been updated to account for him being with the Chargers 578 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:39,080 Speaker 1: what we expect to see with him going forward his 579 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: NFL career. You can also catch re AARs of Justin 580 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 1: Herbert three sixty Saturday at five and five thirty AM 581 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: and eight and eight thirty AM, so those are Eastern times. 582 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: Be on the lookout for those. Well, I was gonna 583 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,080 Speaker 1: do it for us today. I hope you guys have 584 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 1: enjoyed the conversation as we have. We're excited about football, 585 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: and uh, it's here man, We're we're making progress. Let's 586 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: be optimistic, let's put a smile on our face and 587 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 1: uh and be hopeful here because I think it does 588 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: look promising, which is very encouraging. All Right, that's gonna 589 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: do it for us. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Daniel Jeremiah. 590 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: I'll catch you next time. Right here on, move the sticks.