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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature feature production of iHeartRadio. I'm your host

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Speaker 1: of Mini Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology and evolutionary biology,

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Speaker 1: and today on the show Animal Elector, the animals will

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Speaker 1: eat your liver with some fava beans, Kyanti, maybe some

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Speaker 1: parsley or those little oyster crackers. These critters have a

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Speaker 1: taste for the weird, the morbid, and the wildly unethical.

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Speaker 1: Discover this and more as we answer the age old

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Speaker 1: question what do you do with the cannibal boss Baby?

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Speaker 1: Joining me today are friends of the podcast Friends of

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Speaker 1: Me Small Beans podcast network hosts Michael Swayman A Beperson.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Hey, Hey Katie, thanks for having us. Yeah, Abe

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Speaker 2: was gonna say it. I heard the thch on his time.

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Speaker 2: This is the Michael voice.

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's my ches, the Abe voice.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, there might yeah, there might be creature.

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Speaker 2: You knows who don't know us just saying hey, uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: very excited to be here. I am. Also, I was

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Speaker 2: famously I was the kid who would like eat bugs

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Speaker 2: on the playground. Yeah, and eat weird and unethical, gross

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Speaker 2: things for attention. So I already feel a kinship with

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Speaker 2: the topic and I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: To discuss it.

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Speaker 1: Michael coming out as a bug as a weird eat

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Speaker 1: as a bug eater on the podcast today.

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Speaker 3: I was a weird bug kid, but I didn't eat them.

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Speaker 3: I just stared at them.

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Speaker 1: You were just half bugging hours.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in a way, that's weirder to me, Like you're

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Speaker 2: not what's to gain?

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Speaker 3: Where's the big Yeah.

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Speaker 2: What's my what's my what's my piece of this bug?

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Speaker 1: I ate snails as a baby, I knew.

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Speaker 2: So what was interesting is I ate bugs, not like

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Speaker 2: I liked it, but to literally, you know, because someone

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Speaker 2: would dare me or to get attention or be audacious.

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Speaker 2: And then there was another kid who would get attention

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Speaker 2: organically because he ate snails because he wanted to. And

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Speaker 2: that was how I felt good about myself. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm not like that freak.

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Speaker 1: Though, You're not like that snail eating freak.

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Speaker 2: Otherwise known as different.

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Speaker 1: Otherwise known as French people and other Europeans who enjoy us.

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Speaker 2: Sure, sure, or Katie it was a baby Katie who knows.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like escargo these days. But yeah, as

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Speaker 1: a baby, my mom would find me in the backyard

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Speaker 1: just with like little pieces of snail shell stuck to

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Speaker 1: my mouth because I ate snails shell and all.

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Speaker 3: Apparently, Wow, you guys are just bragging good texture.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine the shell into the goo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, chewy on the inside.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we we.

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Speaker 1: Are talking about animals who have a taste for the

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Speaker 1: strange that uh you know the title of the podcast

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Speaker 1: animal elector Animal elector. You know, it's if you say

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Speaker 1: it fast enough, it is a joke. Yeah, But first

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Speaker 1: I want to set a grizzly crime scene for you guys.

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Speaker 1: Now I'm not so much a true crime podcaster, but

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Speaker 1: let me see if I can kind of do my

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Speaker 1: true crime podcaster voice. It's sort of like, I'm way

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Speaker 1: too into this. So the victim has washed up on

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Speaker 1: the shore with an almost surgical terror across her shoulders.

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Speaker 1: While the rest of her organs are intact, her liver

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Speaker 1: has been pulled out through the tear in her back

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Speaker 1: and is missing. This scene is blood curdling enough, but

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Speaker 1: soon another victim washes up to shore, and then another,

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Speaker 1: and then another. Soon there's a total of nineteen victims,

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Speaker 1: all of them beautiful innocent sharks gone before their time.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that sharks.

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Speaker 2: But the shark reveal I was expecting, not sharks, not humans,

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Speaker 2: because I knew you were doing something animal sharks.

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Speaker 3: So something's out there hunting sharks is just drilling.

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Speaker 2: Their livers out. That is, I've never encountered only the liver.

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Speaker 1: The liver. Yeah. Yeah, So starting around twenty fifteen, a

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Speaker 1: murderer had been meticulously preying on seven gill sharks. So

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Speaker 1: seven gill sharks are formidable themselves. The females can grow

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Speaker 1: one and a half meters, and their carnivores they're serious business.

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Speaker 1: So you know it is it is quite a feat

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Speaker 1: to go handibal elector on these sharks because they're they're sharks.

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Speaker 1: They're sharky sharks. They're not like little cute, tiny sharks.

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Speaker 1: They are just big old sharks. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: That guy also dangerous to around.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I did a crime.

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Speaker 3: My first thought is like it's like like an orca

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Speaker 3: or something. It's got to be big, right.

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Speaker 2: Oh, my brain went the opposite way where I thought

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Speaker 2: like it's some kind of little needlefish that they can't

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Speaker 3: But how does he eat it? Like, it's got to

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Speaker 3: be a handsome that's a handsome liver, you know, like

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Speaker 3: a big liver. Well, I actually don't know the size

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Speaker 3: of shark livers, like I.

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Speaker 2: Would love if it's just like, oh, no, it's a

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Speaker 3: It's oh, it's just a guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they thought him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah he's a freak dude. It's just Paul in Pacific

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Speaker 3: Beach in San Diego.

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Speaker 1: Well, abe, you are getting promoted to the rank of

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Speaker 1: ocean detective because you are correct. This was Orca's So

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Speaker 1: there's a National Geographic article with a wonderful title, why

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Speaker 1: are these orcas killing sharks and removing their livers?

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the author, Jessica Taylor Price. This is

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Speaker 1: a fascinating story. Apparently based on the precise of the killers,

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Speaker 1: as well as tooth impressions found on the victims, shark

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Speaker 1: biologists whittled down the suspects to two male orcas Starboard

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Speaker 1: import Just a pair of fun loving orcas going around

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Speaker 1: surgically removing the livers from sharks.

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Speaker 2: So we're not a regular behavior of orcas. Yeah, down

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Speaker 3: Okay, wow, So like sociopath or psychopath orcas.

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Speaker 2: Yes, right, I thought I thought we'd be covering animals

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Speaker 2: where that whole species eats something we would consider weird.

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Speaker 2: But these are like, no, no, these two orcas even

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Speaker 2: while they're you know, slicing the liver rapp right, what

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Speaker 2: you're doing, Bud, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: The liver. That's Starboard. He's the worst.

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Speaker 1: Yeah or sorry, no, exactly. Yeah, so this is not

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Speaker 1: a hitherto known behavior that orces regularly do. They do

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Speaker 1: attack and eat sharks, sure, but this like surgical precision

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Speaker 1: where they're just like, I want to eat the liver.

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Speaker 1: Holds him down, brother, while I cut out the liver. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's just these weirdos. So uh yeah, Port and Starboard

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Speaker 1: figured out how to precisely cut open the sharks just

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Speaker 1: liver from the wound and just feased on shark fois gras.

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Speaker 2: Wow or can suck yeah yeah, I mean like their

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Speaker 2: lips can come together enough to create suction. Is also

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Speaker 2: something I didn't think was true.

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Speaker 1: I think it's maybe I don't know that it's their

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Speaker 1: lips so much. I mean, Belugas can do that. Belugas

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Speaker 1: definitely can do that. They actually have very mobile lips

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Speaker 1: and they can suck things up. Or is I think

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Speaker 1: it's more like sort of like get in their mouth

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what a waste. Obviously they would. I think

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Speaker 2: it stands to reason they kill way more to eat

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Speaker 2: than other orcas have to write. It just feels like

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Speaker 2: this is like a dude who is like I just

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Speaker 2: like the bacon off of the sandwich, right, throws the

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Speaker 2: rest of the sandwich out the window of his car.

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Speaker 3: So wasteful, right, that it's very wasteful. I just think

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Speaker 3: that these two are just fancy orcas, right, that must

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Speaker 3: be what they are. They only have the finest their

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Speaker 3: food parts. Yeah, they're snobs. They da figured it out.

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Speaker 3: Deliver is the best part and screw everything else.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I am a bit of a fussy eater,

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Speaker 1: but I can't imagine just like so that means I'm

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Speaker 1: of its eyeballs it's just you know, it's like you

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Speaker 1: can be picky, but for me, picky is like I

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Speaker 1: don't like capers, and so I pick all the capers

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Speaker 1: off my food. But you know, I don't kill like

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Speaker 3: We also don't kill our food, though, So I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Well is a thing, and I'm sure that I'm sure

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Speaker 2: foa grad ducks. I mean, maybe I'm wrong, but I

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Speaker 2: imagine foa garrad ducks. You know, like the livers turn

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Speaker 2: into fuagra, and other parts of it are also used.

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Speaker 2: Like I imagine they don't throw the rest of the

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Speaker 3: They just kind of livers.

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Speaker 1: They just kind of torture it by forceing it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's still horrible, right, But my point being that

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Speaker 2: our our food snobs also have a thing for liver. Like,

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Speaker 2: I guess liver is good. I don't like liver, but

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Speaker 2: I guess it's good.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah that's true. I don't know, but

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Speaker 3: I imagine that like the things you need, the horrible and

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Speaker 3: that sweet sweet foah graw versus like I just want

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Speaker 3: they're doing things to the animal for to streamline, like

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Speaker 3: the best foe gras, right, So that doesn't necessarily mean

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Speaker 3: They're gonna use an entirely different animal or yeah animal, I.

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Speaker 1: Don't I don't know what happens to the rest of that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what happens to the rest of the fuagram.

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Speaker 1: I went, well, no, I'm googling it. Now you've you've

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Speaker 3: To ye graters. This could get dark, This could get

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Speaker 3: real dark.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Also, I realized how funny of God to design

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Speaker 2: the ducks such stuff. Torturing it makes it delicious. God's like,

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Speaker 2: you're fuck, I've done this to you. This is funny

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Speaker 2: to me tell you what corkscrewed dick. There you go.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing. I recently learned that ducks are amazing

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Speaker 3: because they have the most amazing and the most horrifying

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Speaker 3: factoid about them. One is that, yeah, they have horrible

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Speaker 3: corkscrew penises, which is very covered on this show before.

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Speaker 3: And that's the horrible thing. I'm sure we taught. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Coature for Cheers covered it. But the thing I just

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Speaker 3: recently learned is that they can breathe out of their buttholes.

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Speaker 2: I did not know that. Also, I should correct myself,

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Speaker 2: goose liver pat as fois gras. But but yes, but

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Speaker 2: ducks are the interesting animal we're discussing now, Katie, did

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Speaker 2: you find the information?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, I've found some horrible things about like

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Speaker 1: vomiting and aspirating the vomit. But you know, yeah, so

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Speaker 1: we're not going to answer that fun little question today. Sure, Instead,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna answer the question why are these orca brothers

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Speaker 1: running around sucking out shark lovers? Sure? What that short

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Speaker 1: story is, They're not sure, But there are theories as

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Speaker 1: to the motives for their serial killing of these sharks.

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Speaker 1: Overfishing may be causing a deficit of fish for these

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Speaker 1: orcas and making it harder for them to get the

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Speaker 1: nutrients that they need, so they focus on this very

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Speaker 1: vitamin rich liver. The reason they might not be eating

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Speaker 2: Then ironically cave their head in with a tortoise show, Ah, tortoises.

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Speaker 1: We are talking about tortoises. Turtles are you know, similar?

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Speaker 1: It sounds like a gopher, which because I assumed.

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Speaker 2: Delicious at all. Yeah, I thought of so many gopher tortoises.

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Speaker 1: You guys are really good tortoise detectives.

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Speaker 3: They make little tunnels out of its shell. It's some

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so the moth just tubes. The adult moths don't

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Speaker 1: they wait a few days and they're like, I think

434
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: we actually got to eat this guy and it's like,

435
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: even though that's morally less repugnant, ew, it's just gross, right,

436
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: I mean it's grosser in a way, right because often

437
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: it's they've waited a while, so the body's not you know,

438
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: it's not fresh anymore, and so you know, yeah, just.

439
00:25:59,080 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 3: Put it on ice.

440
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: It's kind of nice that they go for the shell

441
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 2: and not the meat parts because after a few days, like,

442
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 2: that's even the more disgusting image.

443
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: I guess, So I guess we got spared.

444
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: But yeah, if you do look up an image, which

445
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 2: I suggest in all these cases kind of looks like

446
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 2: it's wearing a rasta hat and now like the dead shorts. Yeah,

447
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 2: or like Katie said, if it was upside down, I

448
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,399
Speaker 2: would be roots. But what a weird thing. If you

449
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 2: were a primitive man and you found one of these,

450
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 2: I feel like you spend a long time pondering what

451
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 2: the hell was that.

452
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: I don't think you'd have to be a primitive person

453
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: to ponder this to not know what it is. Yeah,

454
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: I think if you lifted one of these up and

455
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,199
Speaker 1: you looked at this, it'd be like today, there are

456
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: people looking at this going okay, it's haunted. Haunted.

457
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

458
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 2: I do still see a lot of goos on Twitter

459
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: where people go, is this the first sighting of this

460
00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,200
Speaker 2: ever on Earth? And some zoologists will respond, no, it's

461
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 2: this kind of worm. Yeah, we know it exists.

462
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,280
Speaker 3: It's fine, it's fine, it's just you haven't seen it.

463
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. It does occasionally happen that someone will take a

464
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: photo of a weird thing in their backyard and it's

465
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 1: not necessarily that it hasn't been seen before, but it's like, hunh,

466
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: that's not supposed to be in this area at this

467
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: time of year, in this Yeah, in this kind of backyard.

468
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 2: So you know it does happen, but yeah, LUs, yeah,

469
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 2: it's just like the worm, right, life finds away Like

470
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 2: screw dinosaurs changing genders. This thing is eating fingernail material, right,

471
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: It's amazing to me that life can use that and

472
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 2: turn it into nutrals.

473
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: Like, it's it's biology, man, We've got clearly it's morally

474
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 1: right for us to eat.

475
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 2: So can we just eat rocks or can we eat anything?

476
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 3: Is it fine? Does it work? It's all yeah?

477
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 1: So, uh, these moths, these moth larvae, are actually relatives

478
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: of the horn moth, which is another creepy little moth

479
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: that instead of feeding on dead tortoise shells, actually feeds

480
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: on the horns and the hooves of dead ungulates. So

481
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: you'll sometimes find like some buffalo skull or an antelope

482
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: school and then on the horns it looks like the

483
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: horns are growing little like tubes or like roots or

484
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, like it almost kind of looks like

485
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: a fungus of some kind, But really it's the silk

486
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: tubes of these little horn moth larvae, and they are

487
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:37,360
Speaker 1: eating the keratin found in the horns like a flagpole.

488
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 2: Are those live ones sticking straight out from it? Or

489
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: how do they make those little tubes if there's no

490
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 2: earth around them? Or did someone pull this out of These.

491
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 1: Tubes are made out of silk. So the silk is

492
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 1: a structure, you know, that is, you know, kind of

493
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: a sticky stuff that like will dry and so it's

494
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: can't it's sort of like a it's actually a physical tube.

495
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: Even with the tortoise eating uh larva, the tubes that

496
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: they do, even though they're digging into the dirt, the

497
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 1: tubes are made out of this silk, and so it

498
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: is they are somewhat rigid.

499
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 2: I thought they were just burrowing tunnels. Interesting, and they're

500
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 2: in there that's like they're apart.

501
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

502
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's their apartment that opens directly.

503
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: I got a condo. It's bone adjacent. It's really good.

504
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. So guys, can I give you some unsolicited advice?

505
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

506
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, damn it.

507
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 3: Otherwise yeah, now you don't get it.

508
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 1: It's only okay, great, now, now i'll give it to

509
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: you since okay, wait now not okay now wait, okay,

510
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: I'll just give it to you. If you find a large,

511
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: pink baby that starts speaking to you in a regal

512
00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:00,520
Speaker 1: adult queen's voice and oozes honey, run away, don't pick

513
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: it up, leave it there.

514
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 2: Could you take some of the honey first, or no,

515
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: it's a hard rule. Okay, no, I trust you. No.

516
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: If a baby starts like going, good afternoon, I am

517
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: your queen. You get out of there, right. Just do

518
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: not not pick up the baby. Do not try to

519
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: collect the honey from the baby.

520
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 3: Here's the thing you could get. You could get like

521
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty bucks or something that like that

522
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: on the black market. Find a you know, find a

523
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: baby that can doc. That's pretty amazing.

524
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, But by the time you've picked up this baby.

525
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: It's gonna be too late for you. Ab You've just

526
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: made the biggest mistake of your life.

527
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 3: Oh no, I am always doing this.

528
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: So there is a caterpillar that is not exactly like

529
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: a cute little caterpillar. Like remember a bugs bugs Life?

530
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 2: What was it?

531
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 1: A bug's life? Oh?

532
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, the big story.

533
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: He was like German, he was a little caterpillar. Uh no,

534
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 1: this is like this looks more like it comes out

535
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 1: of Dune or a Cronenberg kind of situation. It's pink,

536
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: it is fleshy, it has a fringe of what looks

537
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: like blonde eyelashes around its pale, ridged body. It is,

538
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: you know, unattractive. I'm gonna say.

539
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: It's a still image, but you imagine that it's pulsating.

540
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's you.

541
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: You know, you know you're horrifying larva, don't you, Michael,

542
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 1: Because well, let me tell you a little bit about

543
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: this thing. So it is found in Europe and parts

544
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: of central and south western Asia.

545
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

546
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: It is the larva of a creature. We'll cover that later.

547
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: So this little nightmare should make anyone who comes across

548
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: it repulsed, especially ants. So it starts out life looking

549
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: pretty harmless, I mean, other than being gross and horrible looking.

550
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: It's no larger than an ant. Actually, that ant could

551
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 1: easily kill it, and they probably should, but they don't

552
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 1: because this caterpillar has developed an amazing strategy, an amazingly

553
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: devias strategy that they have been sort of born with

554
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: these instincts, this plan of infiltration. So first it releases

555
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: a sugary substance called honeydew, which is sounds really delicious.

556
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: It is actually an excretion made by a variety of

557
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: insects that is sort of like this sugary nectar that

558
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 1: it can offer other insects to eat. So this is

559
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: something that can be excreted by like ant larvae. It

560
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: can also be excreted by aphids. Ants and aphids have

561
00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: this somewhat symbiotic relationship where ants will harve this honeydew

562
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: from aphids. They're also ant species where they harvest that

563
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: from their own larvae. So you know, it's like it's

564
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: it's a little bit, it's an offering. It's something inviting, right,

565
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: It's like like heavy, a little bit of heavy, a

566
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 1: little bit of sweet sugar. You know, these ants just

567
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: come up and they're all about it.

568
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 2: You just know some etymologist has tried it honeydew for sure.

569
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: First, yeah, there are I mean, you know people that

570
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 1: insects are a viable food source for people. They can

571
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: be quite tasty. In fact, there's an ant I believe

572
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: called a sugar ant or a honey ant, sugar ant.

573
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: It tastes sweet sugar ant.

574
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 1: Well, it actually collects a bunch of sugar in its

575
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: gaster and people can eat it sort of like candy.

576
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: It's apparently really Yeah, it's like a little gush. It's

577
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: like a gusher full of sugar, of sugary sweetness. So yeah,

578
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure it probably tastes all right. Uh so that's

579
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: a little caterpillary is like, yeah, yet it be shitty union,

580
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: don't you mind me? And so, uh, the ant will

581
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: kind of be put at ease. It's like, all right,

582
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:12,319
Speaker 1: great sugar being excreted by this little weird pink thing.

583
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 1: That's fine.

584
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 4: Uh.

585
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 1: And then the caterpillar starts phase two of its plan.

586
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 1: It inhales a bunch of air. It actually kind of

587
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 1: inflates itself and then releases the air like a squeaky balloon.

588
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,320
Speaker 1: And this sound actually mimics the distress call of a

589
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: queen ant, so.

590
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: It turns crazy. It turns itself.

591
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 1: Into like bagpipes, and it's like like, Eh, don't mind me,

592
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:42,800
Speaker 1: I'm the queen.

593
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 3: Oh heaven to me, that's the real part.

594
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're literally it's the ants in the famous Simpsons

595
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 2: episode Save the Queen, which one of us is the queen.

596
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 2: I am No, you're not.

597
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly.

598
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 3: So it's just a big whoopee cushion that makes ant sounds.

599
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 3: So this ant is losing its mind. It's like, oh delicious, honey, dude,

600
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 3: what you I was just came from where you were clean?

601
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 3: What are you doing here now? And you're in distress

602
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: and you're in distressed. I gotta save you like that man.

603
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: Just really psychological warfare coming from these little things.

604
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: It gets classic gas lighting strategy. You love classics.

605
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: It gets worse. So this caterpillar also has a pheromone

606
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: that mimics the pheromones of the ant colony. Uh, and

607
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: so the ants feel compelled to pick up this little

608
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 1: bundle of not joy and bring it back to their nest.

609
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: No no, Once inside, it's quite snugly, and you know

610
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: it's it smells like it belongs there. It sounds like

611
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 1: they're queen. It's oozing, you know, this sweet sugary substance.

612
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: So the ants are like, they trust it, they think

613
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: it's great. They they actually, I think that maybe it

614
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: is even their queen that they should listen to. The

615
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: basically like the orders that it's giving it. So they

616
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: will sometimes make those distressed sounds inside the colony, which

617
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: will trick the ants into protecting it, like it's like

618
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: their queen baby, and it will get preferential treatment in

619
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 1: the nest. It will be protected first in times of danger. Well,

620
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 1: there are two strategies that different species of these caterpillars employ.

621
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: One is to compel the ants to feed it, just

622
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: continually feed it until it grows and grows. There's another

623
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: species that has a slightly different strategy, which is to

624
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: eat the babies that are in the nests. So eating

625
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 1: of a little real ant babies that it is surrounded by.

626
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: And because it's act of being like, I'm queen baby,

627
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: pay attention to me is so convincing. Sometimes the ants

628
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: will even attack their own larva, responding to this caterpillar's

629
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,880
Speaker 1: distress call, and then feed the larva to the caterpillars.

630
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: So it's completely brainwashed these ants into giving it the

631
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: queen treatment.

632
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 3: And giving their young to it.

633
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: Yes, and just like human queen's the greatest luxury of all.

634
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 3: I always imagine stay young. I always imagine first contact

635
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: would go something like this, you know, like some alien

636
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 3: would like visit and be like, I'm President of the world,

637
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 3: and we're all like that sounds awesome, you seem awesome,

638
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: and then he's like, you guys are a bunch of

639
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 3: dummies because I'm not even from here.

640
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh wow, we're gonna we're gonna like get a

641
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: new audience. And people were like, that's right written her

642
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: babies anyways. No, I mean I wonder if there has

643
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: there been like a horror movie where like there's a

644
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: baby that's actually an alien or a changeling and it

645
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: like eats the other kids. I know there was like

646
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: a rug Rats episode about.

647
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 3: That and brainwashes everyone around it.

648
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 2: Right, No, and it would it's like a good that's

649
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 2: a good hook if you like the most horrifying thing possible.

650
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: The closest thing I can think of is the Darren

651
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 2: Aronofsky movie Mother that has a baby eating in it,

652
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 2: but brainwashing someone into feeding you their baby.

653
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: What a horrifying by Yeah, I mean there's Rosemary's baby

654
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: where it's a demon baby, but it's still not eating

655
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: the other baby, right, Like.

656
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 3: No, it's almost not demon enough.

657
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: Its parents aren't cutting up babies and feeding it babies.

658
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: Like grost, not just any babies in their own babies.

659
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 2: And the equivalent of that alarm sound would be like,

660
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 2: it's just constantly emitting a police siren sound. Just twenty

661
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: four hours a day. People are shoveling baby parts into

662
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 2: its mouth.

663
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 3: Love this, I love that. The answer just like, this

664
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 3: is great. I love the new you know, like the

665
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 3: whole fight, the whole infrastructure is great. Now everything moves smooth.

666
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 2: The answer probably like, and I'm doing my job.

667
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: This is good. I'm doing my job clean baby tunes.

668
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I mean it's like, yeah, it's like a

669
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: baby talking with an adult voice, like the adult voice

670
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 1: of an authority. And you just keep feeding it your babies,

671
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: and it gets huge, like it grows to one hundred

672
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: times its original size, and over the course of a

673
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 1: year it will mature and once it has had its

674
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: fill of the ants babies, it will pupate and the

675
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:57,280
Speaker 1: adult monster will emerge. It is a beautiful, pale blue butterfly.

676
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: So this is called a large blue butterfly, and it

677
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: will daintily sip on nectar as if it has never

678
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 1: spent its childhood eating the babies of it's big right.

679
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it looks like a normal cute butterfly where

680
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: you go.

681
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: Like, butterfly, you don't know where I've been, you know,

682
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 3: I struggle. It's like like bit, it's like this thing

683
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: in Baane. I came out of the darkness, you know,

684
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,759
Speaker 3: like I am I am your god. This is terrifying.

685
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: What a.

686
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 3: Nature? So cool?

687
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:33,839
Speaker 2: You ordered the three animals in the correct order where

688
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: the last one.

689
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 3: Is the worst.

690
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's like, you know, I think that

691
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: it goes to show you you can't judge a book

692
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: by its cover. You're like, oh, no, a shark. It

693
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:48,359
Speaker 1: turns out the sharks were the victims, and you're like, oh,

694
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: time off. That can't be a weird necrophage that eats

695
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: dead tortoises. But it can and it does. And this

696
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: time it's like who do you trust more? And or

697
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: beautiful butterflies? I think everybody loves butterflies more. They're like

698
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: they're beautiful. Uh, they're like little fairies. But no, this

699
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: thing is zvious and it's mean to the ants.

700
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 2: So mean.

701
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:18,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not looking good for ants. They're not that's smart.

702
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 3: But hold on. You brought something home and it's it

703
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 3: within it like I don't know how long a time

704
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 3: amount of time, it grows to be a hundred times

705
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 3: its size, and you're just like, don't weird, talking in like.

706
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: An adult voice, going I'm a baby. I'm a precious

707
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: little baby. Feed me.

708
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 2: It's like I'm still hungry and in distress, and you're like,

709
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: still you've been shoveling food into you.

710
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: It's a hundred times your size, and it's still like,

711
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: I'm your precious little baby, I'm your bundle of joy.

712
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: Feed me your children, Feed me your children.

713
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,360
Speaker 3: Your children. They're like that sounds good, sounds about but

714
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 3: it's the tunes.

715
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 2: It's actually the giant flesh thing from the end of Akira,

716
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 2: like right, and they're still like this is normal, this

717
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:10,919
Speaker 2: is normal, this is a god.

718
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: It like flies off and then they're like bye, and

719
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 1: then they look around and their colonies just devastated. There's

720
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 1: no more babies. It can't actually devastate an entire ant colony.

721
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: Of course I would imagine, Yeah, and then I I

722
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 2: imagine the real Queen's long dead. But I like the

723
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 2: idea of panning over to the real queen all shrivel,

724
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 2: like I'm still hey, no one cares about getting rebuilt.

725
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:41,880
Speaker 3: The most interesting part to me about this particular animal

726
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 3: here is the thinking about, like how natural selection and

727
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 3: evolution does so many cool things that are like what,

728
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 3: that's so weird, But the inflating yourself thing like that

729
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: is so left field, out of left field for me,

730
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 3: Like that, like you, that's your whole body. Your body

731
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 3: has to evolve to that point where you're like, yeah,

732
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 3: it probably makes sense just to get a little bit

733
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 3: of you know, like whoopy cushion going on? What can

734
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 3: we do with this? Can we mimic ants? I don't know,

735
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:16,439
Speaker 3: you know, it's just like it's so weird. How many

736
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 3: steps to create that weird novel?

737
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, imagine sort of you are randomly

738
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: in putting some lines of code into a program, and

739
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: the bits of code that works will propagate, that will happen,

740
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 1: and the bits of code that don't work that's just

741
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: a dead end. It won't propagate. And you do that

742
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: over millions of years, you're gonna get something. You're gonna

743
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: get at least like maybe a Tetris game going on.

744
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: You know.

745
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right. That's just a horrifying combination of events.

746
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, I mean it is. It's the power of

747
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,399
Speaker 1: selective pressure over a huge amount of time.

748
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 3: Exactly.

749
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: It's amazing, though.

750
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 3: Beautiful, beauty, beautiful.

751
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: You know, baby eating in nature, It's beautiful.

752
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 3: That's what That was my takeaway out of this horrible topic.

753
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 4: What's your takeaway, Michael, I'm just imagining Mufasa and Simba

754
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 4: on the ridge going But but when we die, we

755
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 4: become the grass and the antelopes eat us, and this

756
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 4: is as it should be, all right. What about that

757
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 4: weird pink thing that eats all the aunt babies?

758
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's.

759
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 2: No.

760
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 3: Don't think about the pink baby.

761
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 2: Beautiful, it's not where I landed.

762
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: He's just like turning the camera away from that. No, no, no,

763
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: we're not we're not.

764
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: Talking about I'm not I'm not. I'm gonna blank this

765
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 2: memory as soon as this is over. Just it was

766
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: a great episode, but just sheer self preservation. I will

767
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: not recall this conversation.

768
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 1: It's a learning podcast.

769
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: That's right today, just lost time.

770
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: Well, guys, before we go, though, we gotta play a

771
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: little game, my little game, by my little rules. The

772
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: game is called Guess Who's squawking the Mystery Animal Sound Game.

773
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: Every week I pay I play a mystery animal sound

774
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: and you the listener, and you the guests, god to

775
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: guess who's squawking in my twisted little game. It can

776
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: be any animals, any animal at all.

777
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 2: You're so, I'm a little twisted, a little twisted.

778
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:35,760
Speaker 3: It makes sounds.

779
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: I'm a little uh unorthodox, I'm a little little dark, a.

780
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 2: Little I was prepared for this segment. So I've listened

781
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: to every animal sound.

782
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 3: It's true, it's.

783
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: Every animal sound that's you know, if you do it

784
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: on like three time speed, I think that you can.

785
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: I think that's doable.

786
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, But then you lose the fidelity of

787
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: the real thing. Man, it doesn't see the same.

788
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, we will natigate this twisted haul of terrors.

789
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. So last week's hint was this, don't be too

790
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: bitter if you can't guess this one. And here is

791
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: the sound. So fellas, you've been pretty good detective. So far,

792
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: do you have any guesses for what this animal could be?

793
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: And the bitter clue applies to this.

794
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't be too better if you can't guess this one.

795
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,439
Speaker 3: I guess is that it? I mean, I'm also hearing bitter.

796
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 3: It's an or baby hear me, I'm hearing a I'm

797
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: hearing like jungle sounds.

798
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: That's the thing. It sounds like a way shorter. But

799
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 2: also you hear the jungle.

800
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:05,399
Speaker 3: Maybe something maybe something nearby like uh, coco, not coco,

801
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 3: old coffee plants and such. That's there's bitterness and then

802
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 3: oh bitter.

803
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 2: Oh, but what animal is that gonna be?

804
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:14,600
Speaker 1: Like?

805
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 2: It sounds like an instrument, right, and I've never heard

806
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: it before even in that video. I must have fallen

807
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 2: asleep for that part. But uh, it sounds almost like

808
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: a Yeah. I'm trying to attack it from the bitter clue,

809
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 2: like if it's a you know, what do you like

810
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 2: a lemon skink? Name is bitter? You know?

811
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 3: Is there a bit?

812
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: Oh?

813
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 4: Yeah?

814
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 3: Is there bitter?

815
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 2: Yeah?

816
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:42,840
Speaker 3: That's probably gophers are better. This one's got stuff is

817
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 3: there right now? Well, it's gotta it's something that can

818
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 3: create a column of air because that sound is like

819
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: much like a digital doo. Yeah, it's a columnist kind

820
00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 3: of like, which can be contorted. I mean, so I'm

821
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 3: taking like bird out of the mix, you know what

822
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 3: I mean? Sure, but man, oh man.

823
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: I can do it too.

824
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 2: Grape I'm gonna I'm gonna guess grapefruit toad.

825
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a toad is in the right direction,

826
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 3: grapefruit because the coffee toad.

827
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you guys, You guys.

828
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: Are getting you guys are getting cold. You're getting colder

829
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,479
Speaker 1: and colder. So dang, you're wrong on all accounts. I'm sorry.

830
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:28,439
Speaker 1: I'm revoking your.

831
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:31,360
Speaker 3: It's a beached orca that ran around. It's an orca.

832
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: It's an but with lemons on it. But lemons aren't bitter.

833
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: There's sour, you guys, And there's no such thing as

834
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: a lemon skink. I checked.

835
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 3: Grapefruits are better, though, grapefruits are better.

836
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: That was fair. I like grapefruits though. Anyways, this is

837
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:53,760
Speaker 1: a bittern. It's a bittern. This is the Eurasian bittern.

838
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: Congratulations to Anti B. Saga E and Emily M for

839
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: guessing correct. Klee Bitterns are brown aquatic birds with long

840
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 1: poses disappointed and a somewhat long neck. So abe, when

841
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: you're like, this can't be a bird, you fool.

842
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking it now. You're just reminding me of

843
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 3: my child.

844
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: Were you tortured as a child?

845
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,360
Speaker 3: You feel just made fun of for my lack of

846
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 3: bird knowledge?

847
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,200
Speaker 1: What people bullied you for their Like you couldn't identify

848
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: a passerine bird from an aquatic bird?

849
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah a belt. Why you couldn't tell a grackle from

850
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 2: a pig? Well, that is pretty bad. Those are pretty different.

851
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 3: I'm gonna.

852
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: So the bittern is related to the heron, but their

853
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: neck is not as long. It kind of looks like

854
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: you took a heron and kind of like cranked its

855
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: neck down a few notches.

856
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're sort of brown.

857
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: They've got a pointy head. They feed on fish and

858
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 1: other small aquatic creatures. Males will issue that booming call

859
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 1: as an attempt to seduce females. There are a set

860
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: of very powerful muscles around its esavacus that allows it

861
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: to create a call much louder than one might think

862
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 1: a four pound bird is capable of. So that's just

863
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 1: under two kilograms for our non American listeners. So, yeah,

864
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,560
Speaker 1: that is the Eurasian bittern.

865
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's surprising that sounds comes out of that thing.

866
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:43,760
Speaker 2: It's a real clay ache. And that's an old reference

867
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 2: that cut Sandpiper kind of Potter response.

868
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 3: That's right.

869
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what we call the feeling they feel in

870
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: that scene from Ghosts when they're spinning the pot together.

871
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:05,840
Speaker 1: Way aching Acon for the aching play love onto this.

872
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 3: Sound that was my mating. Is it working out and

873
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:13,840
Speaker 3: we got we got it?

874
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:18,239
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta move on, we gotta move on. Uh.

875
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,560
Speaker 1: The hint for this week's mystery animal sound is this

876
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: this little guy isn't happy about being put in the

877
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: discount Ben.

878
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:31,839
Speaker 3: Discount.

879
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: Don't even you're trying to think about it before I

880
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,240
Speaker 1: play the sound. That's not how my game works.

881
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 3: I play the game how I play the game.

882
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,720
Speaker 2: So what do you what do you think a broken

883
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 2: kazoo or like a balloon they you're holding the end

884
00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 2: of but not fully tightly and you're just letting the

885
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: air ound.

886
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 3: Haiti, Why are you just recording me and playing it back.

887
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,240
Speaker 2: I don't record any when he sleeps.

888
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: If you feel like this while you're sleeping, you need

889
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: to go to a sleep clinic. That's probably a form

890
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 1: of aggressive sleep apnea. That it's probably a.

891
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 3: Legitimately one of the funniest sounds.

892
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it does feel like.

893
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:32,760
Speaker 3: It's a must like a turtle having sex.

894
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 2: But I've heard that a lot on YouTube, and I

895
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 2: know the difference is a lot, Yeah, a lot, a lot.

896
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 3: This one feels I could see maybe a toad or

897
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 3: something like that. I don't know. It was also sounded

898
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 3: cat like.

899
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 2: Well, if it's in the discount rank, I thought you

900
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 2: have discount be that's what throws me.

901
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 3: It's like a cheap like a bird.

902
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 2: It's a bird, it's another bird, it's a bird. Cheap swishes.

903
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 2: Keep Well, it's the beginning of the clue. You used

904
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 2: a this a little bit.

905
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: This little guy isn't happy about being put in the

906
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: discount ben so.

907
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 2: He's also or they are also unhappy and little Yeah,

908
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 2: so the cheap cheap grumpy cat.

909
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: Cheap cheap grumpy cat.

910
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:20,560
Speaker 3: Well, I'll tell you what.

911
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 2: I'll actually you can actually make that all right, we

912
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:24,440
Speaker 2: give up, you give up.

913
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,040
Speaker 1: Well, I'll let you know the answer on next week's

914
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: episode of Creature feature Fellas, thank you so much for

915
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:37,200
Speaker 1: joining me today this on this twisted episode.

916
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I knew that that segment ended

917
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: like that, and I still feel ripped off. I want

918
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 2: to know.

919
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 3: I really want to know. Oh maybe we slipped you

920
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 3: twenty dollars under the table.

921
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well we'll talk about that later. But now, Yeah, what, guys,

922
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: is there anything you're work on, anything that people might

923
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: want to know about you?

924
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: I just admitted distress called people all over the world

925
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 2: bringing their babies. No, we do have a thing.

926
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:11,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you, kurious. Thanks.

927
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: We have made one movie before. If you don't know

928
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: our work, it was called kill Me Now. You can

929
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 2: check it out online for free if you want, on YouTube.

930
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 2: And then we made a bunch of bunch of sketches

931
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 2: over it cracked For like ten years, we sort of

932
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 2: led the video department there. Now we're in the middle

933
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 2: of trying to fund our second movie. It's based on

934
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 2: the hilarious, poignant true story of when my dad came

935
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 2: out as a gay furry named Papa Bear when I

936
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: was seventeen. It's called Papa Bear. You can find out

937
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:41,600
Speaker 2: more about it and how you can get involved, and like,

938
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 2: if you pitch in fifteen twenty five bucks, get really

939
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: cool rewards.

940
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 3: We're very excited to sort.

941
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 2: Of show the fandom in a light that we think

942
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 2: media has never shown it in before, which is to say,

943
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: always with a bunch of misinformation.

944
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 3: But it's broader than that.

945
00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: It involves a whole community sort of forming their complex,

946
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 2: reducible lee unique sexual identities. That's all say. You can

947
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: find out more over at seed and spark dot com

948
00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,319
Speaker 2: slash Fun slash Papa hyphen Bear.

949
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 3: I hope you'll check it out. Thanks so much for

950
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 3: having us.

951
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, personally, it was super fun.

952
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm personally very interested in checking out that that movie.

953
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: It sounds very interesting and it seems like, yeah, so

954
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 1: it's this is not some kind of like you know,

955
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,879
Speaker 1: just trolling thing. This is you guys are doing something

956
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 1: that is looking into a subculture with interest and sensitivity.

957
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 2: With interest, genuine interest. And I grew up with furries.

958
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 3: I love my dad.

959
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 2: It's not an estranged dad story. So yeah, it comes

960
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,240
Speaker 2: from a place a love. It's just because we're comedians.

961
00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 3: It's not ripping or dunking. It's still very funny, and

962
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 3: we hope you Yeah, I think you're coming of age

963
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,479
Speaker 3: comedy drama. Yeah, yeah, that's great.

964
00:55:51,719 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it. Well, yeah, Thank you guys

965
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 1: so much for coming on the show, and thank you

966
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: guys so much for listening. If you are enjoying the

967
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,239
Speaker 1: show and you leave a rating or a view, I

968
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: won't eat your liver. I won't do it anyways, but

969
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Speaker 1: I won't do it then either U and thank you

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