WEBVTT - Season 09 Episode 18: It Lingers There 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:04.000 Hello, It's Richard mc cleinsmith here with some more events news. 0:00:04.160 --> 0:00:06.360 I'm delighted to say I'll be performing at this year's 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:10.200 Edinburgh Festival Fringe. Unexplained has beguiled listeners for over a 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:13.320 decade with real life tales at the strange and mysterious, 0:00:13.400 --> 0:00:15.360 but now, for the first time, I'll be taking the 0:00:15.400 --> 0:00:17.599 podcast to the Fringe, where I'll be giving a live 0:00:17.640 --> 0:00:21.239 interpretation of the Flannan Isles Lighthouse Mystery. The year is 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:24.880 nineteen hundred three. Lighthouse keepers stand watch on a desolate 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:29.000 island far from home until one day they completely vanish 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:31.480 from the face of the earth. So if you'd like 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:33.600 to see me tell that story in person, I'll be 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:36.560 performing from August seventh to the twenty ninth at ten 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:40.120 pm in Theater three of the Space at the Surgeons Hall. 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:42.879 I would dearly love you all to come. Tickets are 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.000 on sale now just search Unexplained Live at the Fringe, 0:00:46.200 --> 0:00:48.760 or you can go to Unexplained podcast dot com, Forward 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:51.680 Slash Events and find the link there, or if you like, 0:00:51.880 --> 0:00:55.080 you can go to the SPACEUK dot com Forward Slash 0:00:55.080 --> 0:01:00.400 Shows Board Slash twenty twenty six Forward Slash Unexplained hyphen life. 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:17.280 I look forward to seeing you there. On a barmie 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:20.440 day in the summer of nineteen sixty nine, a classic 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.880 low sprung station wagon bumps gingerly along a dirt road 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:28.880 through the backwards of Villas County in northeastern Wisconsin. As 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:31.880 the car rounds a corner, the woodland suddenly gives way 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:34.959 to a clearing, revealing the placid waters of West Bay 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:39.840 Lake beyond. But something else comes into view too, a 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:44.920 rambling clapboard mansion partially hidden within the trees. It's a 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:49.800 complete hodgepodge of styles, part faux Georgian, part Greek Revival, 0:01:50.120 --> 0:01:54.280 with hints of classic New England. Here and there, thirty 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:58.320 year old Ginger Hinshaw, her straight mouse brown hair hanging 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:01.760 just below her shoulders, leans out of the passenger window, 0:02:02.200 --> 0:02:07.040 utterly captivated by it. The property and its outbuildings had 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:09.840 been vacant for years and were in desperate need of 0:02:09.880 --> 0:02:14.680 some TLC. The windows were broken, the roof sacked, while 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.799 in sight was a mess of peeling paint and wallpaper. 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:21.720 But Ginger didn't care. She fell in love the moment 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.440 she saw the pictures of it. Seeing it now in 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.720 the flesh as it were only strengthened her desire to 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:32.720 buy it. Ginger had recently remarried, and her husband, Arnold, 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:36.320 owned a construction company. Together they could restore the place 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.680 into a marvelous family home and build a new life together. 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:43.639 Arnold is almost as excited as his wife as they 0:02:43.639 --> 0:02:48.120 pull up outside, squeezing Ginger's hand as they trade excited looks. 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:52.640 But in the back seat, Ginger's nine year old daughter, April, 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:55.680 one of six that she and Arnold's share between them, 0:02:56.120 --> 0:02:59.320 is less enthused. As she gets out of the car 0:02:59.639 --> 0:03:03.640 and still up but the property's eerily dark gable windows, 0:03:04.200 --> 0:03:08.239 she feels as sudden coldness come over her. Without any 0:03:08.280 --> 0:03:11.800 of her mother's optimism, she sees nothing but a decrepit, 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:16.360 oversized cabin with a low slung porch that was far 0:03:16.480 --> 0:03:19.000 darker than it had any right to be under the 0:03:19.040 --> 0:03:24.160 warm midday sun. Though she can't quite articulate exactly how 0:03:24.160 --> 0:03:27.480 it makes her feel, what she does know is that 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:32.160 she absolutely doesn't want to live here. But the Hinshaws 0:03:32.160 --> 0:03:36.920 will ignore April's reservations and within weeks complete their purchase 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.720 of the property. The place has had many names over 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:46.200 the years, Lilac Hills, the Lamont Mansion and most recently 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:50.240 Summer Wind, and over the course of the next few months, 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:55.760 it will completely and utterly tear the family apart. You're 0:03:55.800 --> 0:04:07.120 listening to unexplained and I'm Richard McLean Smith. According to 0:04:07.160 --> 0:04:10.800 most accounts, Summer Wind, as it was most recently known, 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:14.600 was built in the early nineteen hundreds as a fishing laudnche. 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:19.719 In nineteen sixteen, then called Lilac Hills, it was apparently 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:22.960 purchased by Robert Lamont, who at the time was vice 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:27.000 president of a company owned by American Steel Foundries. Later, 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.719 he would serve as the Secretary of Commerce for President 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:34.000 Herbert Hoover. Lamont is rumoured to have employed a firm 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:38.640 of Chicago based architects to remodel the mansion. Allegedly, the 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:42.400 work took two years to complete, during which time there 0:04:42.400 --> 0:04:46.479 were bizarre stories that some of the rooms appeared inexplicably 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:52.000 to change their dimensions from day to day. Then, sometime 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:55.520 in the nineteen thirties, a number of strange stories from 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:59.520 the family's servants began to surface. It was said that 0:04:59.640 --> 0:05:04.560 DAWs opened and closed on their own. Sometimes, disembodied voices 0:05:04.560 --> 0:05:08.880 were heard, and apparitions had even been seen, including a 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:14.320 translucent woman milling about the property's driveway. The la Monts 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:18.760 apparently didn't believe any of it until one night Robert 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:22.120 Lamont and his wife Helen were home alone having dinner. 0:05:23.000 --> 0:05:26.200 As they ate dessert, Robert looked up to see a 0:05:26.240 --> 0:05:29.920 strange shadow like figure standing in the doorway that led 0:05:29.960 --> 0:05:34.279 to the basement stairs. He was allegedly so startled that 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:37.440 he grabbed a pistol from a kitchen drawer and fired 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:40.760 twice at the shadowy figure, only for the bullets to 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:44.400 go straight into the door and the figure vanish moments later. 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.520 The family is said to have abandoned the house soon after, 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.880 all of which was completely unknown to Ginger and Arnold 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:56.800 Hinshaw when they moved in. In those first few weeks. 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:01.360 Flushed with the effervescent enthusiasm of a new homeowner, Ginger 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:05.320 got started on all the much needed renovations, beginning with 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:10.279 repainting and wall papering, but things soon became difficult when 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.560 the Hinshaws tried to find local contractors to help with 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:18.520 the more complicated work. The responses were initially enthusiastic, but 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:21.159 as soon as they mentioned the name Summer Wind the 0:06:21.240 --> 0:06:24.720 contractors suddenly found they were too busy or were lacking 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:30.520 the required materials. Ginger couldn't understand why exactly, but assumed 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:32.520 it was simply to do with the sheer amount of 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:36.440 work that was needed, and so in the meantime, they 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:41.359 pressed on with the renovations alone. One day, Ginger was 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.400 rummaging through a bedroom closet when she found a roll 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:48.720 of musty old papers. Opening them up, she was surprised 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.520 to find that they were the original plans for the house. 0:06:52.320 --> 0:06:55.960 But even more surprising was what she found in them. 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:59.480 As she continued to unroll the papers, a long, wooden 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:03.839 object slipped out from inside them. That's weird, she thought, 0:07:04.160 --> 0:07:07.600 holding the item up to the light. Though she couldn't 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.240 be sure what it was exactly, it appeared to be 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:21.440 an old Native American peace pipe. After finding the pipe, 0:07:21.680 --> 0:07:24.960 for some strange reason, Ginger felt more driven than ever 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:29.480 to restore Summer Wind to its former glory. Something about 0:07:29.520 --> 0:07:33.040 the physicality of it all wrapped up in those old papers. 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:38.400 Holding them in her hands, she felt momentarily transported right 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:41.000 back in time to when the house was first built. 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.600 She began to feel sorry for how it had been 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:48.280 so mercilessly abandoned and left to rot all these years, 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.360 and she had the sudden burning urge to make it 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:57.280 whole again. Ginger's restoration efforts became obsessive. At one point, 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.560 she even tried out eleven different colors for the interior 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:04.080 would work before a lighting on the right one. But 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:08.080 while Ginger's passions for the renovations grew almost as if 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:12.440 the two were inversely proportional to each other, her husband, Arnold's, 0:08:12.840 --> 0:08:16.880 just as suddenly began to wane. So the story goes, 0:08:17.200 --> 0:08:20.880 it all started when Arnold apparently discovered a crawl space 0:08:21.040 --> 0:08:24.200 behind a closet in one of the bedrooms. When he 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.760 ap peered inside it, he saw what appeared to be 0:08:26.960 --> 0:08:30.040 the carcass of some kind of animal, but he didn't 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.760 quite have the angle to see what it was exactly. 0:08:33.640 --> 0:08:36.760 Too small to fit in the space himself, he asked 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.360 one of his daughters to go inside and find out 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:43.320 what was in there. The girl dutifully took a torch 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:46.400 and squeezed into the space, only to let out a 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:51.600 horrified scream moments later. The strange shape, it turned out, 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:56.120 was apparently a human skull, still covered in thick strands 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:59.959 of dark hair. Rather than remove it, Arnold is said 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.760 to have made the questionable decision to simply plaster over 0:09:03.800 --> 0:09:07.839 the wall, leaving the skull in there. It was supposedly 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.880 his belief that the remains had been placed there for 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:14.840 a reason and shouldn't be disturbed. It was around this 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:20.079 time that Arnold began to notice something strange. Sometimes he 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:23.240 would leave a room and come back only to find 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:26.760 a chair had been moved. Other times, it seemed he 0:09:26.800 --> 0:09:29.400 only needed to turn his back for a moment and 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:32.800 a chair would be swiftly positioned a different way by 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:38.080 invisible hands. Ginger had noticed it too, more than that 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:42.160 at times, with the kids at school and Arnold out 0:09:42.160 --> 0:09:45.959 for work, Ginger had the distinct sense that she wasn't 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:50.640 entirely alone in the house. As time went by, Arnold 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:55.640 became increasingly distracted and seemed incapable of completing any household 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:59.480 task that he began. Instead, he spent most of his 0:09:59.559 --> 0:10:03.200 free time I'm sombly playing an electric organ that he'd 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:06.600 bought himself as a moving impresent, And as the months 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:11.600 went by, Arnold just became more and more withdrawn. First, 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:14.960 he stopped helping with the renovations, claiming he didn't have 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:18.160 the energy for it. Then he stopped his own construction 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:22.560 work too. He began sleeping through the day, seeming to 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:25.720 wake only to play the organ, and if he woke 0:10:25.760 --> 0:10:28.480 in the middle of the night, he'd play it then too, 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:43.400 filling the house with its mournful tones. As Arnold's despondency 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:48.120 grew worse, he became uncharacteristically angry and began shouting at 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:52.680 the children and Ginger at the slightest provocation. One evening, 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:56.679 he berated Ginger for leaving their bedroom window open, even 0:10:56.679 --> 0:11:02.000 though she distinctly remembered closing. It happened again and again. 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:07.160 Each time the enraged Arnold would accuse Ginger of deliberately 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:10.719 leaving the window open to provoke him. In the end, 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:16.440 Ginger decided just to nail the window shut. Soon, Arnold 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:21.000 stopped talking altogether, much to Ginger and the children's distress. 0:11:21.640 --> 0:11:24.480 When he wasn't lying in bed, he spent his time 0:11:24.800 --> 0:11:28.040 wandering around the mansion's rooms as if looking for something, 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.080 or just standing silently on the verandah staring out over 0:11:32.120 --> 0:11:35.920 the lake for minutes at a time. At some point, 0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:40.199 the children managed to domesticate a local raccoon when it 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:45.400 escaped one day, Arnold again became inexplicably angry and ordered 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.680 them all outside in the middle of the night to 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:50.600 go and look for it. When they couldn't find it, 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:54.880 he revealed the sickening truth he had killed it to 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:59.560 teach them a lesson, he said. One day, Ginger was 0:11:59.600 --> 0:12:02.800 at home alone when she became convinced she could hear 0:12:02.840 --> 0:12:06.000 a deep and strong male voice calling out to her 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:13.440 from the floor above Ginger. Ginger bit could, with the 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:18.240 floorboards gently creaking at each step. Ginger slowly walked up 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:21.760 the stairs, then along the upstairs corridor to where the 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:26.120 sound appeared to be coming from. Turning a corner, she 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:30.280 saw for the briefest moment, what she later described as 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:34.760 a dark, shadowy figure. Ginger was convinced she was just 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:38.000 hallucinating from all the stress and tiredness of the last 0:12:38.000 --> 0:12:41.080 few months, so she decided to take a break and 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:44.079 invited some friends over to show them what she'd been 0:12:44.080 --> 0:12:47.440 working on all this time. After giving them a tour 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.920 of the house, Ginger and her friends retired to the lounge, 0:12:51.040 --> 0:12:55.319 where they had some drinks and chatted amiably together. Later, 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:58.520 as Ginger was getting more drinks from the kitchen, she 0:12:58.640 --> 0:13:03.440 heard a piercing scream coming from the lounge. Ginger rushed in, 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:07.080 only to find her friends in a state of abject horror. 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:11.839 According to them, they'd just seen a ghostly form walk 0:13:11.920 --> 0:13:15.800 in and out of the room without even giving Ginger 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:19.800 time to digest it all, they grabbed their things and left. 0:13:27.000 --> 0:13:29.840 It was only after the apparent incident with her friends 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.520 that Ginger is said to have begun to think a 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:36.400 little deeper about everything that had been going on. The 0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:41.839 moving chairs, Arnold's strange moods, the unrelenting sense that her 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:45.560 family were not the only inhabitants of the house, and 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:49.920 the shadowy figure she was almost certain she'd seen days before. 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.760 She couldn't believe she was even thinking it, But was 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:57.320 it completely out of the realms of possibility that Summer 0:13:57.360 --> 0:14:02.640 Wind was haunted. Meanwhile, as Arnold's moods grew ever darker, 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:08.560 its organ playing grew increasingly dissonant and ominous. Disturbed by 0:14:08.600 --> 0:14:12.280 the strange tonal shift, Ginger asked if he could play 0:14:12.320 --> 0:14:16.400 something else instead, but Arnold refused, claiming that it was 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:20.200 the only thing that gave him pleasure in life. By now, 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:24.360 he had lost his construction business and seemingly his entire 0:14:24.480 --> 0:14:28.480 sense of self. Though Arnold's children were more forgiving of 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:32.320 his behavior for Ginger's children, for whom Arnold was a 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:37.120 relative stranger, its presence was starting to feel deeply threatening. 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:41.720 As winter fell, the Henshaw family's life at Summer Wind 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:45.840 reached a crisis point. Struggling to pay the fuel bills, 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:49.920 the whole family hauled their mattresses downstairs and took to 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:53.480 sleeping together in the living room to keep warm. After 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:58.160 several months of unpaid bills, the utility companies disconnected the 0:14:58.200 --> 0:15:02.640 heating and electricity altogether. Whether then the water pump supplying 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:06.200 the house with fresh water broke, leaving the family with 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.040 the only option of having to get their water from 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:13.200 the lake. The grand dream of their luxury lake shore 0:15:13.240 --> 0:15:17.400 life had turned into a nightmare of fear, depression, and 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:22.040 a struggle for survival. With things at breaking point, Ginger 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:26.640 knew that something had to change. Having finally admitted defeat, 0:15:27.040 --> 0:15:29.880 she walked to a neighbor's house and phoned her father. 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.920 To her and the children's immense relief, he arrived a 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:37.240 few hours later in his caravan and took them all away. 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:42.400 According to some reports, Arnold didn't go with them, having 0:15:42.440 --> 0:15:46.000 apparently succumbed to a full on mental breakdown. He was 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:56.920 instead admitted to a psychiatric hospital. By the spring of 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:01.360 nineteen seventy two, Ginger and her and Arnold's children had 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:05.120 moved to Canada, determined to start a new life, but 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:08.760 she couldn't stop thinking about Summer Wind for the while, 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:14.000 vowing never to return to the house. However, events were 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:17.760 about to summon her back. When Ginger is said to 0:16:17.800 --> 0:16:20.880 have first described everything that happened at Summer Wind to 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:25.320 her father, he simply didn't believe her. But over time, 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:29.680 like his daughter, Raymond Boba found that he too had 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:33.440 begun to think obsessively about the house, so much so 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:37.240 that after some months he arranged a viewing of the property. 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:42.400 Accompanying Raymond on the journey was his son, ray recently 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:46.760 home from the American Vietnam War. As father and son 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:50.840 toward the partially restored mansion, much like Ginger had done 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:54.520 all those months before, they couldn't help thinking just how 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:57.800 perfect the place could be if given the right attention. 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:01.720 They wouldn't even need much, which help, they reasoned, since 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:05.480 Raymond had carpentry skills and Ray was a dab hand 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:10.800 at plastering. A few weeks later, Raymond Boba became the 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:15.560 latest owner of Summer Wind. When he told Ginger, she 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:19.240 was distraught. Not only was she angry that her father 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.400 had brought the house back into her life, knowing how 0:17:22.400 --> 0:17:27.000 it had destroyed her family, now he was at risk too. 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:31.000 After much pleading from his daughter, Raymond agreed that while 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:33.280 he was working on the house, it'd stay in his 0:17:33.400 --> 0:17:37.760 motor home rather than the property itself. In the meantime, 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:42.399 an undaunted ray got to work. Later in the evening 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.920 of that first day, as night began to fall, ray 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:49.800 appeared at his father's motor home, clearly having been unsettled 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:53.960 by something. When Raymond asked what the matter was, Ray 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:56.800 denied that there was anything wrong, but still told his 0:17:56.920 --> 0:17:59.760 father that, with regret, he wouldn't be able to work 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.439 on that house for a few days because he'd broken 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:06.480 some equipment and needed to replace it. But Raymond was 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:11.080 unconvinced he knew his son was hiding something. That night 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.960 in his motor home in the shadow of Summer Wind, 0:18:14.520 --> 0:18:17.919 he began to wonder if Ginger's stories about all the 0:18:18.000 --> 0:18:23.000 strange goings on were actually true, and so he apparently 0:18:23.040 --> 0:18:25.639 asked her back to the property to see if they 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:29.440 could get to the bottom of it all. When Ginger arrived, 0:18:29.680 --> 0:18:32.919 it was immediately clear to her that Ray, for whatever reason, 0:18:33.280 --> 0:18:36.720 was hiding something, so she devised a plan to try 0:18:36.760 --> 0:18:46.600 and coax it out of him. Since leaving the property, 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:51.080 Ginger had apparently been studying techniques for hypnosis and asked 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.679 her brother if he'd let her try it out on him. 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:58.240 Ray reluctantly agreed, and before long Ginger had put him 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:02.000 in a deep trance. When Ginger began to question Ray 0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:06.800 about the house, its legs started shaking. Then he started speaking, 0:19:07.600 --> 0:19:11.639 but as Raymond told it later, it wasn't Ray's normal 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:16.520 voice that came out. You are weak. I am strong, 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:21.080 he said, in a spiteful and angry tone. Then, bizarrely, 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:24.680 he claimed to be very old and had seven children, 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:30.520 which he despised, but Ray didn't have any children. Terrified 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.840 that she'd somehow connected with a demonic entity through her 0:19:33.840 --> 0:19:38.080 brother's body, Ginger commanded whatever was speaking to her to leave. 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:43.880 Ray then went quiet and eventually came round. When Ginger 0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:46.560 played him back a recording she'd made of the session. 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:49.959 He was stunned and claimed not to remember any of it. 0:19:51.000 --> 0:19:53.879 Ray then apparently agreed to tell his sister and father 0:19:54.200 --> 0:19:58.280 what he'd experienced the day before at the mansion. He 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:00.800 said that he was upstairs in the or way alone 0:20:01.119 --> 0:20:04.280 when he suddenly felt like there was someone else there. 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:09.159 Then he heard two voices, followed by gunshots that seemed 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:13.320 to come from the kitchen. He raced downstairs, expecting to 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:17.119 confront someone, but found no one there at all, but 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:19.919 in the air was the faint odor of what he 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:24.280 took to be gunpowder. Hurriedly, he opened the back door 0:20:24.400 --> 0:20:27.240 to see if anyone was outside, but again there was 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:31.680 nobody there. Heading back into the kitchen, he apparently found 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:34.439 himself being drawn to the door that led from the 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:38.080 kitchen to the basement. There were two strange holes in 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:41.639 it that had clearly been there for years. They looked 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:45.199 to him like bullet holes. Then the hairs on the 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:47.800 back of his neck stood on end, as though he 0:20:47.800 --> 0:20:52.800 could sense someone standing right behind him. Ray claimed that 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:57.199 he turned to see a dark spectral figure radiating nothing 0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:01.760 but pure evil. Ray said he then turned and ran 0:21:01.840 --> 0:21:05.320 on pure instinct all the way to his truck, before 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:17.879 driving off at speed. After hearing Ray's story, his father 0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.920 Raymond was reminded of how Robert Lamont had apparently reported 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:25.200 seeing a ghost and fired two shots at it many 0:21:25.280 --> 0:21:30.399 years before, without knowing why exactly. Raymond asked his daughter 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:34.320 if she could hypnotize him too, perhaps they might learn 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:37.520 something else, he thought, though he was a bit less 0:21:37.520 --> 0:21:40.879 suggestible than his son. Ginger is said to have eventually 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:44.680 succeeded in putting Raymond in a trance. As Raymond would 0:21:44.720 --> 0:21:47.959 later detail in a book, he also began to talk. 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:52.040 He described descending into the basement of Summer Wind and 0:21:52.160 --> 0:21:56.080 moving toward a back wall. There he found a hidden 0:21:56.160 --> 0:22:00.520 chamber behind the wall, inside which was an old wooden box, 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:04.720 and inside the box was a land grant written in 0:22:04.840 --> 0:22:08.680 seventeen sixty seven, and at the bottom of the document 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:13.640 was the name Jonathan Carver. Raymond claimed to have come 0:22:13.680 --> 0:22:16.640 out at the trance with no recollection of this apparent 0:22:16.760 --> 0:22:21.720 vision and no idea who Jonathan Carver was. The following day, 0:22:22.080 --> 0:22:25.320 Raymond is then said to have gone to the local library, where, 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:28.879 after some research, he was amazed to discover there was 0:22:28.920 --> 0:22:32.600 a man of some note named Jonathan Carver who'd been 0:22:32.640 --> 0:22:38.520 alive in seventeen sixty seven. Jonathan Carver, who absolutely was 0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:43.359 a real person, was essentially a British citizen. Born in Weymouth, Massachusetts, 0:22:43.440 --> 0:22:48.000 in seventeen ten, after teaching himself surveying in cartography, he 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:51.679 joined the Massachusetts Colonial Militia and fought in the French 0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:55.920 and Indian War as it was known. In seventeen sixty one, 0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:59.120 he became captain of a regiment, but decided to quit 0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:03.680 the army two years later to go exploring instead. Over 0:23:03.720 --> 0:23:06.720 the next few years, he traveled along the northern coast 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:09.679 of Lake Michigan and up the Fox River and the 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:14.359 Mississippi into what is now Minnesota, keeping detailed logs of 0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:18.720 everything he saw, including his many encounters with indigenous tribes. 0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:23.800 When Carver finally returned home, he expected to receive acclaim 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:28.040 and financial rewards for his explorations from the British King 0:23:28.119 --> 0:23:31.520 George the Third, whom he believed had commissioned his trip, 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:35.720 but George and his court weren't interested in his achievements. 0:23:43.480 --> 0:23:47.159 In seventeen sixty nine, John Carver traveled to England to 0:23:47.240 --> 0:23:51.719 press his claims for remuneration. Unfortunately for him, he had 0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:56.520 apparently been laboring under a misapprehension the British government and 0:23:56.560 --> 0:23:59.960 the King had no interest in rewarding him for his expedition. 0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:04.080 In the end, Carver was left only with his maps, 0:24:04.520 --> 0:24:09.440 log books and journals, along with significant debts and simmering resentment. 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:13.840 Determined to salvage something from his efforts, Carver spent the 0:24:13.880 --> 0:24:17.760 next nine years preparing the story of his travels for publication. 0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:22.360 A book was finally published in London in seventeen seventy eight, 0:24:22.760 --> 0:24:25.960 with the rather dry title of Travels through the Interior 0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:29.600 Parts of North America in the years seventeen sixty six 0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:34.919 to seventeen sixty eight. Nonetheless, it gave readers a vivid 0:24:34.960 --> 0:24:38.680 description of the rich lands and native inhabitants of the 0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:43.199 Upper Mississippi River Valley, and after some months, proved to 0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:46.639 be a big success. In the end, more than thirty 0:24:46.800 --> 0:24:51.520 editions would be printed, but sadly, Jonathan Carver didn't live 0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:54.840 long enough to enjoy the success or reap the financial 0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:59.479 rewards for his efforts, and died still impoverished, in Paris, France, 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:03.879 in January seventeen eighty, just before the book sales began 0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:08.480 to take off. Carver was buried in a potter's field, 0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:13.040 a term for a pauper's grave on unconsecrated ground, a 0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:17.320 fate of the destitute and those with no social status. 0:25:18.440 --> 0:25:23.480 Carver's misfortunes didn't end after his death. By eighteen forty four, 0:25:23.800 --> 0:25:27.480 the popularity of Travels to the Interior had greatly declined, 0:25:28.000 --> 0:25:31.480 and some historians began to claim that it consisted of 0:25:31.560 --> 0:25:35.040 made up stories written while Carver was living in London. 0:25:36.080 --> 0:25:39.199 It wasn't until nineteen o nine that a letter written 0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:42.640 by Carver back in seventeen sixty seven came to light 0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:46.720 that proved the details in Carver's book were most likely 0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:52.120 true after all. Then, Raymond Bober reached what was for him, 0:25:52.560 --> 0:25:57.320 the most exciting part of Jonathan Carver's story. The third 0:25:57.440 --> 0:26:01.560 edition of Carver's book contained a con troversial claim that 0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:06.639 two Dakota so Native American chiefs had granted Carver a 0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:11.520 large tract of land in eastern Wisconsin, estimated around twelve 0:26:11.640 --> 0:26:15.320 thousand miles for helping to resolve a dispute between them 0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:19.920 and a neighboring tribal group. If it were true, Carver 0:26:20.080 --> 0:26:22.919 and his descendants could lay claim to being some of 0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:26.440 the wealthiest people in the world if only they could 0:26:26.440 --> 0:26:31.320 find the proof. As it happened, Carver's descendants very much 0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:35.320 pursued the claim, but since no document verifying it was 0:26:35.359 --> 0:26:45.480 ever found, nothing could be done to help them. It 0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:49.119 said that when Raymond relayed everything he'd learned about John 0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:52.679 Carver back to his daughter, Ginger, she couldn't help but 0:26:52.760 --> 0:26:56.040 think back to that strange pipe she'd found wrapped up 0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:59.399 in the original blueprints for the mansion. Might that have 0:26:59.480 --> 0:27:02.800 had something to do with it all, she wondered, And so, 0:27:03.400 --> 0:27:07.680 despite everything the place had done to them, Ginger, Raymond, 0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:11.320 and ray plucked up their courage and went back to 0:27:11.400 --> 0:27:15.960 Summer Wind. As Raymond later wrote, the three of them 0:27:16.160 --> 0:27:19.720 are said to have carefully retraced the steps which Raymond 0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:23.480 apparently took in his trance, beginning with the stairs leading 0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:27.320 into the basement. As they descended into the dark with 0:27:27.359 --> 0:27:31.359 their torches, everything was eerily quiet as they carried on 0:27:31.520 --> 0:27:34.680 toward the back wall, to where Raymond said he saw 0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:38.920 the hidden chamber with nothing else. With nothing else for it, 0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:42.560 ray began to chip away at the wall until some 0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:46.440 of the brickwork fell away, revealing, much to their astonishment, 0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:51.680 a cavity in the space behind, But to their intense disappointment, 0:27:52.200 --> 0:27:56.439