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Speaker 1: I welcome to episode sixty two of the Bobby Cast.

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Speaker 1: good to see you, man. Let's see. So the last

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Speaker 1: time we saw each other was you came to my

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Speaker 1: stand up comedy show on Nashville and then you got

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Speaker 1: out if it was in standard tuning or not. Well,

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Speaker 1: it was all my fault too, And I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, come up, you know, come to

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Speaker 1: theater show. And I was like, carl I Pierce, come

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Speaker 1: and I gave you Eddie's guitar and I didn't tell

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Speaker 1: But the good news is he still killed it, and

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Speaker 1: everybody walked away like Dann, that girl's good. After the

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Speaker 1: w You're actually good. So I'm glad you hear. There

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Speaker 1: are a few things I want to talk to you about.

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Speaker 1: The First of all, we're gonna come back around to

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Speaker 1: the song at the end, But Carly has a song

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Speaker 1: her third number one single by the time this song

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Speaker 1: right here. We're gonna get to But what we do

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Speaker 1: on this podcast, it's different than our radio interview because

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Speaker 1: we have time to talk and sometimes like talk about

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Speaker 1: in a radio interview because people that listen to this.

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Speaker 1: I bring a lot of songwriters on and they don't

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Speaker 1: really get talking on the radio that much. But I

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Speaker 1: want to hear the stories about things that really maybe

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Speaker 1: So first, I want to talk about your move to Nashville,

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Speaker 1: because people a lot of people listen to this go

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Speaker 1: people actually do in the move to Nashville. They literally

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Speaker 1: pack up their car and get an apartment. And then,

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Speaker 1: so I want to talk about your move to Nashville.

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Speaker 1: So start me. How old were you? Well? I I

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Speaker 1: I I quit high school at sixteen because I saw

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Speaker 1: so that I could take a job working in the

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Speaker 1: country show. Okay, hold on a minute before we go

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Speaker 1: any further that, man, I got a lot of questions

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Speaker 1: from that. So were you performing at home? I grew

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Speaker 1: and they knew you wanted to do that. They did

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Speaker 1: my whole life. What kind of student were you? I

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Speaker 1: she must be wanting to quit for a reason. Is

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Speaker 1: their truth to that with your parents? And they think

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Speaker 1: to do totally. I was the student that never missed

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Speaker 1: and be a star. Were you Carly Pierson? That your name?

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Speaker 1: I was, So my last name is actually Slusser, and

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Speaker 1: I my grandparents are really close to me, and I

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Speaker 1: Is your grandfather alive? What he's not? But he is

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Speaker 1: And he always knew I was going to go to Nashville.

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Speaker 1: He was like, I I have no fear that you're

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Speaker 1: Where in Kentucky did you grow up. It's called Taylor Mill.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the story of your parents. Um, where

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Speaker 1: So and you say I want to quit school? Did

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Speaker 1: you practice your speech? Because just think of me like

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Speaker 1: been in Dolly whatever, yes, as a kid. So I

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Speaker 1: I moved into a one bedroom, one bathroom, Grizzly Bear

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Speaker 1: young age. And sometimes it works out for people, and

429
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Speaker 1: obviously we have people in our format that started super

430
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,600
Speaker 1: young and our superstars, um, but I think personally for me,

431
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 1: and if I was going to tell like a student Belmont,

432
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,120
Speaker 1: I would just be like, take the time and don't

433
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,080
Speaker 1: think that you don't have time because you really not

434
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 1: saying that your opinions can't be the opinions of people

435
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,720
Speaker 1: in town can't be changed. But it's just gonna be

436
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 1: a lot harder for you, I think internally if you

437
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: put that kind of pressure of like I have to

438
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: get it now. No, no, no, now in the first

439
00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 1: year that I moved here, instead of being like, what

440
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,680
Speaker 1: do I want to say? Who am I as a person?

441
00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 1: What is my lane? You know, it's gonna be crazy

442
00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,720
Speaker 1: in ten years when you go, I do really know

443
00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,639
Speaker 1: what I was doing ten years ago. So it's a

444
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 1: cycle ten years having like as big as idiot ten

445
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 1: years ago, I know what I was doing. Now I do,

446
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,280
Speaker 1: and then after that I'd be like, man, I don't

447
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,560
Speaker 1: know what I was doing ten years ago. So how

448
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 1: many times because this is fascinated to me being here, said,

449
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: I see people get to be the shiny toy sometimes

450
00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: two and three times, like they'll get their shiny to

451
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 1: my moment, and then it goes away and they didn't

452
00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,000
Speaker 1: quite flourish the way they had hoped. But time and

453
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 1: uh learning and more different shift in managements all around.

454
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Speaker 1: How many times were you the shiny toy? Do you

455
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,359
Speaker 1: felt like like like boom eighteen nineteen? Did you have

456
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,879
Speaker 1: another spot in the middle between the last year and

457
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,160
Speaker 1: a half and the eighteen nine year old. Yeah, I

458
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 1: I had a developmental record Dean Sony in when I

459
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,280
Speaker 1: was twenty two, and I think, you know, you immediately

460
00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: get put into uh song plugger meetings where all the

461
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: people or pitching you great songs, and you see your

462
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,880
Speaker 1: name on a pitch sheet, which for people that don't

463
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 1: know what that is, it's you know, you see your

464
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: name next to Kenny Chesney or something looking for songs

465
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 1: for your album, and and people answer your emails and

466
00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:14,960
Speaker 1: come to your shows and think you're awesome. But then

467
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: you know, my person at the label got let go,

468
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 1: and the minute that that happened, the whole town turned.

469
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,920
Speaker 1: And so you were part of that person so when

470
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,239
Speaker 1: they were let go are you Wow? So you went

471
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: through two shiny toy phases. So you're in town, let's

472
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 1: go back to being nineteen or so. You're writing a

473
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 1: bunch of songs, You're trying to do your Are you

474
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,679
Speaker 1: working other jobs? I I worked a couple of retail

475
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,639
Speaker 1: jobs at the Upper Mills mall. Yeah you want a

476
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 1: lot of my other friends? Really? Yeah? Yeah? I worked

477
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: at the Loft and I worked at Banana Republic. What

478
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: do you do? You worked? Sure, that's funny. Worked in

479
00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,200
Speaker 1: the dressing room at both places, super glamorous. Every time

480
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 1: I go by, I'm like, oh my god, I always

481
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: wonder do you think the whole time you're doing it,

482
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: You're like, Man, I know, I'm gonna make it like

483
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: I'm just doing this right now, and that's just getting

484
00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 1: part of my story. Yeah, yeah, for sure, that was

485
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,880
Speaker 1: always the intention. I think who was in your class

486
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: of people that kind of came to talent because and

487
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,840
Speaker 1: everybody goes and succeeds at different levels and years, and

488
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 1: but who when you moved to town? Who are the

489
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 1: other people that I moved town around the same time.

490
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: I had a group of friends. We played a lot

491
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: pretty much every weekend at a place that's no longer

492
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 1: They're called Hotel Indigo. Uh. We played writers Rounds and

493
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,119
Speaker 1: it was me and Casey Musgraves and John and t

494
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: j Osborne and Lucy Sylvius gree Harrison. That was kind

495
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,960
Speaker 1: of the group that I came up with that I

496
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: played with all the time. And now, you know, it's

497
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,240
Speaker 1: like you said, people go faster, and you see your

498
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 1: friends go up, and I've had other friends I've watched

499
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: them go up and come down and you just never

500
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. You know. Natalie him be

501
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: in the same chair. We were talking about that and

502
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 1: she was like, you know, I've seen friends go all

503
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: the way up and then come all the way back

504
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 1: down to even below where they were when we met.

505
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: And she was like, it's really giving me a respect

506
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: of that. You go when you're meant to go, and

507
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 1: if you go later, that's okay because some of the

508
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: you know, she wanted to be a recording artist and

509
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,639
Speaker 1: she moved to l A and then she you know,

510
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,080
Speaker 1: found her spot where she and by the way, she

511
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: put on my favorite people like she's awesome and if

512
00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 1: you listen to that, she should listen to not you,

513
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 1: you too, but I'm going you should go listen to

514
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: it too, because it's fantastic. But she talks about that too, like,

515
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 1: you can't look at other people going up and go,

516
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, I'm not as good as them, because

517
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 1: they could be way back down when you finally get

518
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: your shot, for sure. And I was frustrating to you

519
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: to see them go up. Oh yeah, I mean, and

520
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: it was difficult because they were my friends and obviously

521
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: I thought they were all amazing, but yeah, you start

522
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: to completely compare yourself and wonder why it wasn't you,

523
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: and and you get in your head and social media

524
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,159
Speaker 1: doesn't help, and and you you have to kind of

525
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: step out of that and understand that everybody, everybody's plan

526
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 1: is different and you can't constantly but this town is

527
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 1: so small and we're all friends, and we're all trying

528
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: to kind of get those certain spots that a label has,

529
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 1: and um, there's only so okay, what do you do?

530
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: You know your twenty like, what do you do? How

531
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: do you keep yourself saying? Well, after I after I

532
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: lost my developmental deal, I obviously thought about moving home.

533
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: Plenty of people in the industry very and I've been

534
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 1: very h just open about the fact that I was

535
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 1: told to move home. I was told I was old news.

536
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: I would uh leave meetings and keep face just long

537
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 1: enough to get in my car and just ball or

538
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: make it home and start crying and wonder. I look

539
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 1: at apartments in Kentucky hometown, and my best friend from

540
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: home she cried and she was like, you can't. I

541
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: will not let you move home. And I'm like, I

542
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: think I have to be done. And I had to

543
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: take a job cleaning airbnbs and I nannied, and that

544
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: was kind of what I juggled for a year and

545
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,760
Speaker 1: a half. And I was depressed and I just didn't

546
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 1: know what I was gonna do. Uh, And randomly got

547
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: called to be a backup singer in Lucy Hale's music

548
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:34,880
Speaker 1: video Pretty Little Liars Girl. Yeah, and so I go.

549
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 1: And my dream was always to sing at the Grand

550
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: Ole Opry, and her music video was being shot at

551
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: the Opery and I remember being like, Wow, this definitely

552
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: isn't how I thought I was going to stand on

553
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: the opera stage for the first time. So I'm standing

554
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: off to the side and I'm like, what is happening,

555
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: Like is this what you're what is this and just

556
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 1: being the kind of I don't know, fearless girl that

557
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,919
Speaker 1: I was, I walked straight to a tour manager and

558
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: I said, you know, I'm still taking meetings and nobody's

559
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 1: calling me back, and I'm still writing songs, but just

560
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: really lost. And I just said, hey, if you ever

561
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: need a backup singer for real, let me know. Why

562
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: would they need a backup singer. Nobody has female backup

563
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: singers just because anymore, you know, budgets don't really call

564
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: for those anymore. And two weeks later, I'll never forget it.

565
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: I was nanny and her tour manager called me and

566
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: he said, hey, can you fly out to l A

567
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,159
Speaker 1: for a couple of months and do some shows with

568
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: US and TV. And I was like, yes, quit my

569
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: nanny job that day and just was like maybe right there, no,

570
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: I mean I did quit. I was like, there's a

571
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: kid that just left behind. I left her, so you

572
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 1: quit your nanny job. So I was I'll never forget

573
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,959
Speaker 1: being on an airplane going to l A and thinking

574
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,199
Speaker 1: maybe this is what I'm supposed to do. And again

575
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,160
Speaker 1: so many people in the town were like, you are

576
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 1: going to have the kiss of death of your career

577
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 1: as a solo artist because you're going to go be

578
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,479
Speaker 1: a backup singer. And I was just like, you know

579
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: what I want to I want to feel music again.

580
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: And I really do think that that experience helped me

581
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: to fall back in love with music. I was part

582
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: of something that felt like a family and I felt

583
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: like I was respected and she I made it a

584
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: point to not tell her I was an artist, and

585
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: she YouTube me and she came to me during rehearsals

586
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: and she was like, why are you singing it back

587
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: up for me? I looked at your videos online and

588
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: so I told her my story and you know the

589
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: power of social media and the power of somebody like

590
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: that just starting to She really was so kind and

591
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: wanted to make her fans aware of me as an artist.

592
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 1: What a great move to not tell her you're an artist, though,

593
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: because I'm gonna tell you as soon as someone comes

594
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: up to me and I do on the same thing,

595
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:48,560
Speaker 1: and it's a great thing to have to deal with.

596
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: But it's like, hey, I am an artist. From my

597
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: boom guard to go up immediately like yeah, why are

598
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: you using me? Why are you talking to me? Probably

599
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't talk to me. She has to feel that way.

600
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: All artists have to feel that way. And I just decided.

601
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm here for her and I want

602
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: her to feel like I am, and I was. I

603
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: felt so rejuvenate, and I've told her many times we're

604
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: really good friends, and I've been like, you really did

605
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: help me fall back in love with music. It was

606
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: totally not. Uh, there's a there's a guitar player in

607
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: town that's a really good friend and we've played together

608
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 1: for a long time and he's the guitar player on

609
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: everything that that is out right now pretty much. He's

610
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 1: a session guys nams Derek Walls. I'm sure you know him,

611
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: and I remember crying to him one day because he's

612
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: like a big brother, and he was like, the moment

613
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 1: that you decide to let your mind switch and understand

614
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: that you're going to get from A to B, but

615
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: it might not be the straight line that you want,

616
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: and it may twist and turn and go up and down,

617
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: but you're gonna you're gonna still get there. And I'll

618
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: never forget him telling me that. And that was why

619
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 1: I took the job with Lucy, because I was like,

620
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: it keeps me in music, and it keeps me out

621
00:29:55,360 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: of Nanny, and it keeps me out of Airbnb's Hey

622
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: Go Home. Because one of the I like, heard a

623
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: lot of biographies of people that dinner my profession, that

624
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: do comedy, and some of they write comedy, they performed

625
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: stand up comedy. They and I remember him saying, you know,

626
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: they told me I wasn't funny, I wasn't good enough,

627
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: really famous comedian, and he was like, I took that

628
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: in my badge of honor because everybody that's ever been

629
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: really good has been told you're not good enough. He said,

630
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: anybody he had ever talked to, from the biggest stand

631
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: up comedians, the biggest TV hosts, the biggest ever had

632
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: been told you are not good enough. And when he

633
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: finally got his and meant there was something so different

634
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: about what he was doing that he was like, Okay,

635
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: I got my badge. Now now it's time for me

636
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: to go out, and now I'm one of the rest

637
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: I've been told. Then there's also I read Amy Schumer's

638
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:50,240
Speaker 1: book I'd like to read and she was like, you know,

639
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,239
Speaker 1: because she tried forever, couldn't make it, couldna make it.

640
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: Amy Schumer is you know huge, hilarious, and she was like,

641
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: you know what, when I finally stopped caring that I

642
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: cared is when it started happening. When I stopped carrying

643
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: up being so strategic about every single little thing, or

644
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: she said every little thing. Yeah, actually I wasn't doing that.

645
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: But and those two things stick with me a lot.

646
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,479
Speaker 1: I I can really identify with that because you know,

647
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: something I've learned is Nashville goes in cycles. And when

648
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: I moved here, you were almost penalized for being a

649
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: female as soon as she walked in the day. And

650
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: when you are again, here we are again. Although it

651
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: is getting better, it's better than it was a year ago,

652
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: and in a year to be better than it was

653
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: this year. Right back when I moved here, it was

654
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: no no, no females. And what I do is definitely

655
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 1: a little bit of a throwback to the late nineties

656
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 1: and early two thousands women. I really want to step

657
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: into that, just being the female that you think of

658
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: when you think of country music. I just that's who

659
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: I want to be in For so long people told

660
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: me you're kind of you kind of Mr Mark you

661
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: you you sound too old, You're that that era has

662
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: already passed, and so even I tried to start chasing

663
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: what was on the radio. And I can hear it

664
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 1: in my songwriting, and I can hear it just as

665
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 1: things have evolved when I went back and just did

666
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: what I do. You know it. You can't fake authenticity.

667
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: How did you eat for so long when when you

668
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: were just doing music? Yeah? So you you work in

669
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: a Banana Republic, you're singing back up? I mean, was

670
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: it just odd jobs as you continue to try to

671
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: find your spot as being you? Really? Yes? And I

672
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: feel like each time, you know, I would I would

673
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: sing different gigs. I would do listening room rounds, and

674
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: they pay you for those, they give you tips, or

675
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: you can sell burnt CDs. So I would just sell

676
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: these cheap CDs that I burnt myself at home. That

677
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: honestly would sometimes I'd make enough money to be like,

678
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: oh wow, okay, this is good between this and and

679
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: you know, Airbnb or Nanny and I'll be okay. And

680
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: I feel like for some reason, I did corporate events

681
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: and those would help. And I just did so many

682
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: different autumn things and was really, uh, I didn't have

683
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: any pride at all, and it was like I just

684
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 1: said yes to everything, because at the end of the day,

685
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: it was a paycheck and you gotta eat. Yeah, and

686
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: you gotta eat in a place where you can make music,

687
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: or you move back. What if you were back home?

688
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: You have done you think? I don't know. I mean

689
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't go to college at all, and

690
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: so that scared me. Did you end up getting a

691
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: high school equivalency? I did? Yeah, I got a diploma

692
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: in the mail from Phoenix High School from it's called

693
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: Keystone National High School. I have a lot of friends

694
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: of graduated from Keiston. Let me talk about Blue Apron

695
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: for one second, because I do the show from my house.

696
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697
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715
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Speaker 1: better way to cook. Okay, so we're gonna take a

716
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: huge leap because I wanted to talk about the struggle first,

717
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: and that's part one. Part two, I want to talk

718
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 1: about something called radio tour. So again something that people

719
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: that listen to the radio or follow really on social

720
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 1: media really don't know it because it's not something that's

721
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: talked about, not that anybody hides it. It's just kind

722
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: of boring. So let's talk about radio Torre. Were jumping

723
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: way ahead from the struggle to the success of the

724
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,240
Speaker 1: song too. You get signed a big machine to Okay,

725
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: now what and so they say, Okay, we're gonna start

726
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: this radio tour. How did they describe a radio tour

727
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: to you? How did they do to you? I just

728
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: that I was going to go and meet a lot

729
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 1: of radio people and kind of introduce myself. It's pretty

730
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: much how it was explained to me. Now I knew

731
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: what a radio tour was because right, and I'll never

732
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: forget I had a few I'm close to a couple

733
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: of girls, female artists, and they were like, we promise

734
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: you after radio tour. Nothing is as grueling as that,

735
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: and I remember thinking I'm pretty competitive, and so I

736
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: thought I'll be fine, Like, it's not I can do that.

737
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: You know, I've worked so long. I can handle that.

738
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: And it is so many people think, oh, your song

739
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: just magically appears on the radio and it's awesome, But

740
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: they don't see those uh you know three am lobby

741
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: calls that you have to be as a female dressed

742
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: and ready to go and have a full day and

743
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 1: be on and it is unfair your female. Oh it's hard.

744
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: We can jeans, not shave and hat and still look

745
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 1: like an artist. It's I know, it's really unfair. It's hard,

746
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 1: and you're a new artist totally. It's not like you're

747
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: coming to a radio station one that you already have

748
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: one or two hits and it's like, hey, oh look,

749
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, Susie's back in a cab. Look at us.

750
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: He's one of the girls. You really can't be that

751
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: unless that's your thing. If that's your thing, right, but

752
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: it is. It's I've I've described it now as you're

753
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:49,919
Speaker 1: kind of campaigning yourself. So you have to be your

754
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: best version of you for that twenty minutes that you get.

755
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: It's a first date. It's like a first day every

756
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: single time you walk into a radio station. So do

757
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: you remember the first day and you went to on

758
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: your radio tour? I do. Actually, we started in Kentucky

759
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: home first. I had great experiences my first week. I

760
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 1: was like, this is gonna be awesome. Everybody was super excited.

761
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: I love him, Yeah, he's as my dude. So you

762
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: started Kentucky. That feels good because it's comfortable and girl

763
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: like away before my ad date and I'm like, oh

764
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: my god, this is awesome. Then we start the different

765
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: you know, because you go to a different territory and

766
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: you have a different regions of the country, and I

767
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: was out. I remember, you know, each week I was

768
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 1: home maybe at most twenty four hours to do laundry,

769
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: and you may a couple of days I flew into

770
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: a city, would drive. I didn't realize how much I

771
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: was going to be in a van. I mean, you know,

772
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: you average in a van four to seven hours a day,

773
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 1: and then you know three to four stations in there,

774
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: and you have to do a lunch with the radio

775
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: people and a dinner with the radio people. So let's

776
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: walk through a day then. So let's say I'm gonna

777
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: put you in a place so you don't actually talk

778
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: about it. Pacifically, you fly to California. Okay, they don't

779
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: know who you are really. So you fly to California

780
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: and it's a Sunday night and you started on You're

781
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: starting on Monday. So you probably get to the morning

782
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,720
Speaker 1: show of some local station. So you're in the lobby,

783
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: like you said, at three four in the morning of

784
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,840
Speaker 1: the hotel to get to the radio station. What do

785
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: you do? So if I'm already there, we may get

786
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: to the first station, you know, for the morning show.

787
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: At seven you're hosting or co hosting for an hour

788
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 1: with the radio people that still sometimes live on air

789
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 1: on my show. They got two or three hits hanging

790
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: out with the with the p D and the m

791
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: D and play a couple of songs live and do

792
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 1: a little interview and take pictures and they're fast usually

793
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,399
Speaker 1: unless you're doing something like that, but you know you're

794
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: in and out, and uh, you may have I've had

795
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: a couple of stations where I played for one person. Uh.

796
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,440
Speaker 1: Some you play for the staff and totally I've had

797
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,680
Speaker 1: people heat their lunch while I'm singing my ballad uh

798
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: in the room that I'm in and the timer goes

799
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: off and they chew in front of me. And so

800
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: you do that, and then you may get in the

801
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: car and drive two hours and then you do it again.

802
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 1: And then you may at lunch at lunch and you

803
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: may have right then you may have listeners at your

804
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 1: lunch and like a um, a little bit of a

805
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: show and have a little meat and greet and then

806
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: lunch with the p D and the m D of

807
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,919
Speaker 1: that station. And then you may get in the car

808
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: and do liners from your phone where you're saying, hey,

809
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 1: this is Carly Pearce and you're listening to blah. Then

810
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: you get to another station and it's in the afternoon,

811
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: and then usually I would have an evening station. Uh,

812
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: and then go to a dinner that could last, you know,

813
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: until midnight. How are you eating all this food? Don't

814
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,839
Speaker 1: stand thin. That's why I don't do work dinners. It's

815
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: so hard. I'm just like, you can't have to eat

816
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: my right food or I don't stay. Then we'll see.

817
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: And that's I have my right food too. I'm super

818
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: healthy and so that that in itself, just the adjusting

819
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: to I don't have time to work out every day.

820
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: I don't get to eat. I like to cook, and

821
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: I like to go to the grocery store and I

822
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: like to eat certain things. And that goes out the window.

823
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Speaker 1: You have dry blue apron, Oh you should. They're in

824
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Speaker 1: a great sponsor and the ingradients, right, Mike, did you

825
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: put on the fresh and fifteen? No? I just wouldn't

826
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: let myself. I would bring like bars, and you know,

827
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: I tried to be as as conscious as I could,

828
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: just because that makes me feel good. And I felt

829
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: like I was going to go insane if I didn't um.

830
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: But that was hard for me. So you would do

831
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: maybe sometimes three apparances a day, three stations you do,

832
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: his parents drive a few hours, parents a few hours,

833
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: and you're singing in all these and your drumaliness going

834
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: up and down because you've gotta be on and then

835
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: be off, and then be on because people will ask

836
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: me why it's so tired when you're off the show,

837
00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: because not listen my step dad work of the mill.

838
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: My like, I see, I've seen real work, and the

839
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: people should know when we talk about grilling, what we

840
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: do is not groeling like people do real work. It's growing,

841
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: but in our own little creative like adrenaline. I'm on

842
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: the air at five o'clock and it's like this for

843
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: five hours, I'm likely and when nit's off, your whole

844
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 1: body is liked. It just shuts down. People like, why

845
00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: are you tired? You didn't do anything, You didn't run

846
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: a marathon. Yeah, my adrenaline was up because having an

847
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:34,279
Speaker 1: entertain you're bought for the last five hours. You don't

848
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 1: have to say like that. I can because I like that,

849
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 1: but people. So then I come home recharged for a second,

850
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 1: and I got like eight other jobs and like writing

851
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: comedy or might a book or whatever. Then I go

852
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: back to bed again. But it is a thing. It

853
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: is a performance thing where you do get up high

854
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,839
Speaker 1: and you do crash. It's like a five hour energy

855
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: It's like sugar totally get sugar rushed and you crash.

856
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: Even my band, I watched the two players that were

857
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 1: out with me. I watched them go from being so excited,

858
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: awesome and like yay, but neither one of them had

859
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: never done a radio tour to like probably the fourth week.

860
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: I mean, they were like zombies because they just had

861
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: no breath. They just would look at me and be like,

862
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how you're doing what you're doing. If

863
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: this is all we're doing nowhere like this, Well, you

864
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: have a golden light under the tunnel of years works

865
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: like a big light. So you go, how long does

866
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 1: radio tour last for you? How many weeks? I did?

867
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: I think eleven? Wow, it was. Do you have any

868
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: idea how many radio stessations you went to? You know what?

869
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: My drummer kept a spreadsheet and the last I heard

870
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: we and this was maybe at week nine, we had

871
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: visited ninety three. That's crazy. We averaged like I had

872
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: a lot of problems even you know, I had never

873
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: flown like that, so my ears for three weeks, I

874
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: was trying to figure out why I felt like I

875
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: was under water and I couldn't get well, and that

876
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: was super frustrating. But we were averaging, you know, twelve

877
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: days in a row in an airplane. I've never experienced

878
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: that before. You don't even think about what travel does

879
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: to your body. And then singing without a microphone, a

880
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 1: lot of times you're singing over players and your voice

881
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: gets raspy, and it was interesting stations, Huh, that's a

882
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: good radio store. They didn't joke, and that means the

883
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: label also paid the money for you to move around,

884
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 1: because that doesn't happen a lot either. Were where that's

885
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: also a blessing that your label paid money because that

886
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 1: costs now listen, you gotta pay it back sort of,

887
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: you don't have to pay it back, but if you

888
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: make that money, it goes back to that pot right there.

889
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: But they're paying for it up front and you can

890
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: take players out. Like that's actually a really cool thing.

891
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: And that's that's been my other thing, And not to

892
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: be cheesy, but it's like it's the best kind of

893
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 1: exhaustion I've ever had in my life. Like this is

894
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: all I've ever wanted to do. I'm super grateful to

895
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: be doing it, but it was it was hard. That

896
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: was that was boot camp training for the Country Music Olympics.

897
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: How many of the program directors were white and over

898
00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: forty percentage wise? Man? Seven? Yeah, probably more than that

899
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: eight and a half percent. Oh man, So okay, you

900
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: do you're down with the radio tornell as it right now?

901
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: When did you finish? I finished? I mean really, I

902
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: have one more visit this week. Even so, I've finished

903
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: probably two weeks ago, but I still am doing like

904
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 1: a couple did you guys do that? Hey, you were done?

905
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: Did your bandgo the whole time with you? They did

906
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: many and then when we started it was going to

907
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: be I think six or seven weeks, and then we

908
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: ended up. You know, they add more and I'm I'm like,

909
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go, let's go. And I just wanted

910
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: to do it so that I could have the best

911
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: chance of meeting as many people, because it is so much.

912
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: They want to meet you, and they want to have

913
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: that penalize you if you don't meet them, and like,

914
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: you don't have to say by this it's a dirty

915
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: political thing. This is the whole world of music and

916
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: just entertainment. It's not music, it's not even just radio.

917
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:55,040
Speaker 1: It's just entertainment. It's a very political. If you don't

918
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: show me that you like me, then I don't like you.

919
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: It's second grade, like I will you go with me?

920
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: And if you say no, I don't want to go

921
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: with you anyway, totally, and again, being a female will

922
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 1: just make it that much harder because you have to

923
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: go in and light up the room. Yeah, you have to.

924
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 1: You have to have the presence. I gotta get me mysterious.

925
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 1: He can going to be mysterious and quiet plays music.

926
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: If you did that, they'd be like, what a bee?

927
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: I think? So? Yeah, no, no, I think so. I know.

928
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: So I'm sure it's an unfair environment completely. Ah. So eleven,

929
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 1: congratulations that you get a high one on eleven weeks,

930
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: because that's a that's a grind. So you go and

931
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: you finished your radio tour, So now like, what do

932
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: you do now? Right now I'm transitioning that I've been

933
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 1: joking that it's just radio tour part two, but it's

934
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: doing radio shows which are fun. That's a good thing

935
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: to bring up because that's something too. Yeah, it's like

936
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: you go back. It's kind of like you go and

937
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: you say hi, and then you come back and you

938
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: do shows, and you may you know, you gotta go

939
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: for free and placed and every artist has to do it.

940
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: And and I'm not this is not a youth thing

941
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: or any artists or any radio station or company. Listen

942
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:05,879
Speaker 1: out with the biggest company in the whole world. So

943
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: we do it too. Radio shows are like, hey, we'd

944
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: love you to come and play our radio shows. Show'd

945
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: be cool if you did, and if you do, we

946
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:16,479
Speaker 1: might like you a little more like that a radio

947
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,280
Speaker 1: that's so annoying. So you have to go play for free.

948
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: That's a thing. So now you're playing radio shows. So

949
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: now I'm doing that, Yes, but I will say it's

950
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: so much better for my brain to be able to

951
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: know that when I fly into this town, that's the

952
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: only town and the only radio station that I'm going

953
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: to see for the whole day. It's a promotion, for sure.

954
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: Radio toward a radio show is a promotion. Oh, I'm

955
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,959
Speaker 1: I'm happy going to the airport smiling. Now forget about

956
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 1: radio show. That's such a good thing. And people listen

957
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: to this. So if your radio stations having a show

958
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 1: and there's like six artists, four artists. They just don't

959
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: pay them an artists. I mean, the artists go in

960
00:46:56,120 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 1: and it costs money for you to do it. Don't

961
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: pay you. But again, this is not complaining. We don't

962
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: We wouldn't complain in the real world. We only get

963
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: to complain in our bubble of people listen to this

964
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: are in the bubble for sure. So you're going you're

965
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: doing radio shows now, oh boy. So but here's the

966
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 1: thing too, You're the only one that doesn't get paid.

967
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 1: Everyone in your man gets paid like they get all.

968
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: They all get paid. My touring intitigue, you don't get crap.

969
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: But again, you're the one with you're doing the investing

970
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: and you're you're looking for the big investment. In the end,

971
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 1: you're looking for the you know, to start getting paid

972
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 1: big money to do shows. Man, how about that radio show?

973
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: Many radio shows do you have? You know? Oh gosh,

974
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I try to look at

975
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: it week by week so that it doesn't overwhelm me.

976
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: But quite a few. How about that? I think about

977
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: radio show that's funny things suck man saying they suck

978
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 1: And sometimes I mean we have them here. The good thing. Well,

979
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll go to radio my state shows if I'm

980
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: on the road every weekend. Though like for me, it's

981
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: really tough because I'm on the road every weekend to

982
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: it stand up or sometimes playing with the band, stupid band.

983
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 1: But if I have a weekend off, like I'll go

984
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,280
Speaker 1: to w m z Q or DC my d C station,

985
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go up for that because that's a

986
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: huge radio show. It's Lady Ain't Kelsey, who I'm close to,

987
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: so that obviously influences it a bit. But here's the

988
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 1: thing that's the big stations canna do they can attach

989
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: their name to a show like Lady and Kelsey and

990
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: Brett are all getting paid because that's a tour that

991
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,959
Speaker 1: goes through like they're getting paid. Yeah, you're not getting paid.

992
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: That sucks, all right, I get off that. But just

993
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 1: to be fair, when you're coming out with me, you're

994
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 1: getting paid. I am, hey, And that's gonna be so fun.

995
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: And that's, you know, the things that I get to

996
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: look forward to, and life is easy on the road

997
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: with me. You get your own dressing rooms in theaters

998
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: and air conditions, and it's the people are awesome. I'm excited.

999
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: So okay, man radio tour, radio shows. But then it's

1000
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: you know, you talk about Brett and Kelsey and Lady

1001
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: they all had to do it too, so you look

1002
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 1: at it and it's like it's just part of the sit.

1003
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: Kelsey's radio tour though, she was lucky because she went

1004
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 1: with us and she just opened for the Raging Idiots

1005
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: and got to go meet PDS. When she was in

1006
00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: front of us, you're almost like, although we're just a

1007
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: few years difference in age, you're almost like a grandkid

1008
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: because Kelsey was like my kid, and you opened for

1009
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: Kelsey for a while because of the you're my kid.

1010
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: That's weird to say, but she was our opener, like

1011
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: our our baby act for a while. That's and then

1012
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: you went on there with Kelsey. Oh I love Kelsey. Yeah,

1013
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 1: that's funny. I like it. I don't like the grandkid

1014
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: thinks you're older than Kelsey too. They just it's told Arkansas,

1015
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: Kentucky thing for all the relatives of different ages, as

1016
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: they should be. So okay, So now we're gonna go

1017
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: to the um. The question you're gonnaet asked all the time,

1018
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: but I think it's good you can talk about it

1019
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: long form a little bit, because I also don't know

1020
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: the answer to it. So this song here, what is

1021
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,279
Speaker 1: it really about? Like, what's that story behind this song?

1022
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: I've heard your stuff on the radio, like on the verge.

1023
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: You know this song is about somebody. It sucks here

1024
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: it is, So I'm like, I've heard those things, but like,

1025
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: like I want to know, like what made you write it?

1026
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: Like what was the tipping point in your life? I'm like, Oh,

1027
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 1: I write a song, and what's it about? It? Give

1028
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: me the whole thing? Okay, Um, it is about a

1029
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:20,879
Speaker 1: guy broke my heart really good? How long ago? That's

1030
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,720
Speaker 1: what's funny, Probably four or five years ago. He's married,

1031
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: has a family weird for his wife, huh. I don't know.

1032
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if she's ever heard it. I don't

1033
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: know if he's heard it. We know we have never spoke,

1034
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: even like install come to see if you put up

1035
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: a post like I got a song about me on

1036
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: the radio. I mean, I think I'm a female, so

1037
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: obviously Insta stocked, But no, he has never posted. I

1038
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 1: think he's happy. I'm happy, and I gotta like you there,

1039
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: what was he was together? You don't say, I'm not

1040
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 1: even gonna put you that words. Don't worry, but he was, yes,

1041
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: like you should send out like a carry your pigeon somehow,

1042
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: third person to go, here's a song about you on

1043
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: the radio, like a little bit you want him to know, right,

1044
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: just a little like selfishly. I mean, of course, yes,

1045
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,640
Speaker 1: we're all humans. We can act like we do. We're

1046
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 1: all human beings. Yeah, I think he probably does. He

1047
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: listens to country music. He's not dumb. Okay. So also

1048
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: now that you're like, because you're gonna have a hit song,

1049
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: but now like what he missed, Like I love that too.

1050
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: It's like and I mean, let's take it a step further.

1051
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: Kind of the reason that we we didn't see eye

1052
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 1: eye was because he didn't think I was going to

1053
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: make it in country. So I'm like, thank you for

1054
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 1: this song. Okay, that guy, I was totally in love

1055
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 1: with him, and when he broke up with me, it

1056
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: really was like earth shattering and there were nights that

1057
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: I really didn't think I was going to be able

1058
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: to take another breath. I mean it was that kind

1059
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 1: of pain that I have never experienced. And this song,

1060
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: even from a melodic stampoin I remember very rarely does

1061
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 1: this happen. But my producer, Musby Uh, we had been

1062
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: talking about how I really needed a haunting ballad, and

1063
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: so we went into this right with one of my

1064
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: dear friends that I've been writing with since I moved

1065
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: to town, Emily Shackleton, and we knew that she would

1066
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: get it, and it fell out in forty five minutes

1067
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: because it was so real during the song after Yeah, yeah,

1068
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,799
Speaker 1: I did. It's common for emotional songs to have that

1069
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: almost I guess went through that experience again. Yeah, and

1070
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 1: it was almost like final. I don't know. Once it

1071
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,320
Speaker 1: was in a song, it was kind of like, okay,

1072
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 1: that was that's me closing the chapter on that person,

1073
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:39,640
Speaker 1: even though yeah, unexpected to I bet. Yeah, it was

1074
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: a weird feeling. I remember hearing it back and kind

1075
00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: of being like, wow, if I ever thought for a

1076
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: second that it wasn't done, it's done. Okay. We're talking

1077
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: about the song, though, like I want to know, like

1078
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,400
Speaker 1: like what, like what's it about? Like I've heard of

1079
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: their band, but normal people, like I try to say

1080
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 1: as normal person as possible. I don't listen to music

1081
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: before it comes out, try not to get too deep

1082
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 1: in the lyrics a lot of times, because I know

1083
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: normal people are just listening and singing along. You don't

1084
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: really listen to the lyrics that much, which kind of

1085
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: a little bit so like, what are you saying in

1086
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: this song? There aren't a lot of a lot of

1087
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: lyrics in this song. It kind of repeats itself a

1088
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: lot because I feel like you, I wrote it from

1089
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 1: this place that I was going through of kind of

1090
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,439
Speaker 1: being trapped in this person's memory and being like I

1091
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: cannot forget every part of you in my life, and

1092
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,439
Speaker 1: you know, laying in bed at night and seeing these

1093
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: images burned in my brain that we're haunting me, and

1094
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: I didn't know if I was ever going to forget it.

1095
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: But then it's like this roller coaster of I wanted

1096
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: to forget him, but then I didn't want to forget him,

1097
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:48,440
Speaker 1: because then that made it completely done. And I didn't

1098
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: hate this person when we broke up, so there was

1099
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: there was a lot of good that was in that relationship.

1100
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: So it was me dealing with the fact that he

1101
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 1: was gone, but also dealing with I had a lot

1102
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 1: of fond memories of him too. Oh okay, I know

1103
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: this part, So I have a drink water that you

1104
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: left on the pillow sand sand. I'm like what you

1105
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: got from the beach. As humans, we don't google lyrics.

1106
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 1: We just I'm I was always like the sand. I

1107
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 1: was like, that's really about what the lyric was. I'll

1108
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 1: bannesced with you, okay, But so you're this is cool

1109
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: because this is like I'm not a normal person. That's

1110
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:46,759
Speaker 1: close as you can be to it. The sound of

1111
00:54:46,880 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: the bee with money your like a window but used

1112
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: to kiss one. It's like such a positive like go

1113
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:16,440
Speaker 1: away song. Yeah, I wanted it to be. It's a

1114
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:21,839
Speaker 1: positive heartbreak like all the great things like that. Until

1115
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,160
Speaker 1: you said that you didn't. Because I've been listening to

1116
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,719
Speaker 1: song again, feel different about it. Well. I feel like,

1117
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 1: especially female artists get pegged as just man bashing heartbreak

1118
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:36,319
Speaker 1: writing songs. And this is a song about somebody that

1119
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: I loved, and if you it's me tracing back all

1120
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,839
Speaker 1: these positive things about this person and the memories. And

1121
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: I really sonically think Buzzby nailed it because we wanted

1122
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,240
Speaker 1: it to have this uncomfortable space in between each lyric,

1123
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: in between each memory, I guess because those are the

1124
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,480
Speaker 1: moments that are uncomfortable and you're dealing with them, and

1125
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: they they really do burn in your brain. This guy,

1126
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 1: let's just call him HERM for like, I just wonder

1127
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:09,439
Speaker 1: what it would be like to be herm because here

1128
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: he is living his life, breaks up, he gets split up.

1129
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 1: Whatever you up with him? Up? Okay, could make a

1130
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 1: song even better, more pain. So, heybody's up. You marries

1131
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 1: the other girl? Because you're never gonna make it. You're

1132
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: never gonna make it, Karli, never gonna make it. Now

1133
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 1: he's living his life. Here's a song about him that's

1134
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: kind of positive. He's like, man, now, I wonder what

1135
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: does his wife do for a living? Do you know,

1136
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: like what kind of job she kind of has? Actually

1137
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: don't know. Are you prettier than her? She's pretty? Would you?

1138
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: Would you say she's prettier than you? I would say

1139
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: she's a very very pretty girl and that. But it

1140
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: was it was I was like, yeah, I mean, he

1141
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: didn't leave me for her, but the next one he was,

1142
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,919
Speaker 1: she's the next one. Are you sure? But leave with her? Though?

1143
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: Are you sure? I'm sure? I'm sure? Alright, alright, I

1144
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: got lots of questions now and then if I'm her,

1145
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: I'm like talking you don't know. I'm like, is she

1146
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: trying to get him back by putting this song out? Like?

1147
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: Is he gonna start feeling in our kids? Are these

1148
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: kids really ares that? I try to think everything. Oh

1149
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: my goodness, listen to this. That's like a Jerry Jerry

1150
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: all from this song. So okay, all right, all right,

1151
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: how about this though, Now on the other end of it,

1152
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: you're not married, you have a boyfriend at the current time. Okay,

1153
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: let's just say I don't know if you do. You know,

1154
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: you say you do, but I don't put you a

1155
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: weird one. Let's just say you have a boyfriend. Okay,

1156
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:45,240
Speaker 1: hypothetically you didn't Frankie Frankie, what about Frankie having a day?

1157
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: You what? You got a song about another dude? That's

1158
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: gotta be weird, definitely weird, crazy, because anytime you're doing anything,

1159
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 1: you're talking about it. Of course, I mean, you know,

1160
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 1: it's an awkward thing to have a song that obviously

1161
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: was Are you real I can identify with it? It

1162
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,680
Speaker 1: was a real thing as a dude. I'm just going

1163
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 1: crazy right now. If if it was another I was

1164
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: in a girl she was like, I got a song

1165
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: about another dude, and she's talking about all the time. Frankie,

1166
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: I know it's hard, it's a weird, it's a weird thing.

1167
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: But I think this is this is the most personal

1168
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: and I guess just vulnerable song that I've ever released,

1169
00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: and hearing people's stories and just makes me understand everybody

1170
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: goes through heartbreak and and I feel like a vessel

1171
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: of just really bleeding out my heart to people. And

1172
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: you know, it's definitely uncomfortable for me sometimes because it's

1173
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: so real. Look at you, herm, Frankie, you got everybody,

1174
00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: it's like all of them just one big happy wow.

1175
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,440
Speaker 1: I was um listening ear later to some of your

1176
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 1: bluegrass stuff. Oh no, no, what were you? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1177
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 1: I was because I was up, and I was like,

1178
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:05,680
Speaker 1: because we know each other, we kind of know. I

1179
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: remember the first time I saw you. I was the

1180
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: listening room. You're playing. Phil Barton is a friend of mine,

1181
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: already kids on together. I can't even sing and I

1182
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: sing in a band, and it's like when I grow up.

1183
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: It makes me like emotional. I don't know why. It's

1184
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:21,320
Speaker 1: just really sweet. I really love that song. I appreciate

1185
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 1: that you're my biggest fan, I think, but that that's

1186
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: really nice of you. No one's ever said that, But

1187
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,040
Speaker 1: no one adult has ever said that. It just takes

1188
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 1: me to a place I've told Phil about before. Thank

1189
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: you very much. So the first time I ever saw

1190
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 1: you was at the listening room and I'm sending you

1191
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: back to like, hey, you're really good, Like, holy crap,

1192
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: that was really good. And then next thing, you know,

1193
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: power she is Carly Pierce singing about I'm gonna blue rass.

1194
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,640
Speaker 1: You realize, I'm no, I did not know. I just

1195
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: feel like that needs to be so it's even better. Wow,

1196
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: it's my little Christmas nightmare. This is called old timer

1197
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 1: and from Carly Pierce fifteen years old. You watch some time,

1198
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:21,920
Speaker 1: give me that that old you know what? Not that bad.

1199
01:00:21,960 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you. You can tell you're trying to

1200
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: sound First of all, it's not bad at all for

1201
01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: a fifteen year old. You can tell you're trying to

1202
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: sound a little older. But you had a pretty deep

1203
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: voice even as a kid. Yeah. I listen to that

1204
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: and I'm like, mom, how did you think? Nah, you

1205
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: could sing? Let me see. Let me say, let's say,

1206
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: how about dare you do? You know? Here's the thing

1207
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: about you, that people say all the time because a

1208
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: lot of friends here. Now I have a lot of friends,

1209
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people here. I stay hidden

1210
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 1: most of the time. They have a few people I

1211
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 1: like a lot, and everybody's like, you know what, we

1212
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: really are rooting for her because she's been she's been

1213
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: grinding for a long time. Like that's generally and just

1214
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: being honest. What always says like we we really want

1215
01:01:01,400 --> 01:01:04,080
Speaker 1: them great to happen to her because she's just been

1216
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 1: grinding forever, and that's the best reputation you can have.

1217
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 1: It's I really do feel like the town has wanted

1218
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,920
Speaker 1: to see me find my way and acknowledge that this

1219
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: isn't you know, a lot of people I just are

1220
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 1: hearing me for the first time, so they think, oh,

1221
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: I just moved here in boof poof like success. Yeah,

1222
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,960
Speaker 1: but it's it's you know, I always looked up to

1223
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 1: Chris Jansen's story. I remember just listening to him and

1224
01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 1: when Buy Me a Boat came out and I remember

1225
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 1: you playing it and just being like, wow, okay, I'm

1226
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: not you know that took him a really long time. Yeah,

1227
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: And it's just cool to have people come up to

1228
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 1: me and just acknowledge that I've been here for a

1229
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: really long time. You know, when you're telling your story

1230
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: about Lucy, reminds me of Craig Campbell, who's a friend

1231
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: of mine and who's come out and played with the idiots,

1232
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 1: and I just I just like that guy a lot.

1233
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: But he see really good. He's so he's so good,

1234
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,520
Speaker 1: he's so good. It was a similar story of you

1235
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: with Lucy. He was playing keys for Luke and yeah,

1236
01:02:01,080 --> 01:02:03,560
Speaker 1: he should listen to podycasts really good. This is the

1237
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: whole series of shows we do. It's like, if you

1238
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 1: haven't listen all sixty, you're a failure. But he tells

1239
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: a story. Luke was like, dude, you too good. Wha. Yeah,

1240
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: He's like, go go you have to be an artist.

1241
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: He's like, Luke fired him because he was. He knew

1242
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 1: he wasn't he wanted to be an artist, and he

1243
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:26,800
Speaker 1: didn't tell him, but he was like, you have to

1244
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: go run along, go spread your wings to be an artist.

1245
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,920
Speaker 1: But the Jansen stories, uh, just the Craig Campbell story.

1246
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean, man, there's there's a different than The similarities

1247
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: are that you're a grinder and I'm on grinder. Perfect.

1248
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 1: I figured that um, this has been really cool. I

1249
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 1: thought I didn't think we would go hour, and you

1250
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: made you made an hour. I can talk a lot.

1251
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: I don't think if you can talk about you have

1252
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 1: you have a story. It's just cool. Yeah, you have

1253
01:02:56,160 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: a like a like a You're gonna make it, you know.

1254
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,560
Speaker 1: I hope so. And I hope that when people just

1255
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: hear my music and hear my story and come and

1256
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 1: see me live, that they see that this is really

1257
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: all I've ever wanted, but that I've worked really hard

1258
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: for it. And but I can also show you, and

1259
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 1: not to be cheesy again, but you can do anything

1260
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: you really can't if you really I'm a perfect example

1261
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 1: of that. I mean, it's just I'm the least talented guy.

1262
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: It's just about work. You just gotta stay in the game.

1263
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: Jesse Alexander is a songwriter in town. She's written you

1264
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:33,320
Speaker 1: know her, She's written a million songs. And I was

1265
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 1: crying in an Ascap girls group where I met Kelsey

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Speaker 1: when we were babies, and she looked at me and

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Speaker 1: she said, if you hang in this town long enough,

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Speaker 1: it'll give you something back. And I never forgot that either. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she's cool. I talked to her. I talked like two

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Speaker 1: days ago we should get her in here. I just

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Speaker 1: saw her. We were on a board, were on one

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Speaker 1: of these fancy pants boards together, and I'm not on

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Speaker 1: any boards. I've always stayed away from any sort of

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Speaker 1: board because I don't want to be in the machine.

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Speaker 1: But I'm on one. I like it because it's the

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Speaker 1: charitable part, the sound of it. So I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I think I can help in that,

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Speaker 1: and her and I have that's kind of where we bonded.

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Speaker 1: She's awesome, she's great, She's so good, and she was right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I the lucy thing. And then I had

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Speaker 1: a song with Josh Abbott and then it was like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, your name is still written on my

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Speaker 1: board because I never I don't ever want my board off,

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Speaker 1: Like literally, your name is still written and I think

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Speaker 1: about it in green marker. Why did you know that?

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Speaker 1: In my office? We walked in there and wrote on

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Speaker 1: your board. I wasn't I was on the road. What

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Speaker 1: else I was on the road. And and I know

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Speaker 1: Josh because Josh used to come into my studio in Austin,

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Speaker 1: and so he would come play my show because I

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Speaker 1: was like thirty po stations, but I bring country artists

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Speaker 1: and all the time. That's then it ended up being

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Speaker 1: what got me here because they're like, well I feel

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Speaker 1: like country so much, why don't you go to do it?

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Speaker 1: So Josh would come and play my show and so yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then you said I forgot you sing on that

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Speaker 1: song with them too. Just I went from the backup

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Speaker 1: singer to the duet partner to Okay, let me hear

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Speaker 1: this is not running over. Might give me like five minutes. Okay,

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Speaker 1: we're talking honestly here because I have friends who have

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Speaker 1: been in duets that have been successful, and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: dear God, get me out of this because it's like

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Speaker 1: it's a great and I'm happy for it. But I

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Speaker 1: got like to do my own vain, I think because

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Speaker 1: I was so searching for opportunities to get my name

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Speaker 1: out there, and he really in his band so much

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Speaker 1: made that song about trying to get my name out there.

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Speaker 1: I feel like he really it was a great douet partner,

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Speaker 1: a great experience. We got to do so many things

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Speaker 1: that I never thought I was going to get to do,

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Speaker 1: and he really there was He was so selfless about

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Speaker 1: it of being like you need to go listen to

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Speaker 1: this girl. She's gonna have her time. Da da da da.

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Speaker 1: It was great. That's really cool. Yeah, he I will

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Speaker 1: always be grateful. I wonder if this song would have

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Speaker 1: been if it would have been like a hit, if

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Speaker 1: you'd hated it. I don't know that would have been

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Speaker 1: miserable if I would. Because we we met after together.

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Speaker 1: How did you guys together? By the way, I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you the really fast story. Singing at Whiskey Jam four

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Speaker 1: years ago. He was there. I knew nothing about Texas

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Speaker 1: country except through Casey, and he messaged me on Twitter

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Speaker 1: three years later, sent me this song and was like, hey,

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Speaker 1: I think you're the right voice for this next thing.

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Speaker 1: I know he needed it. In like three days, I

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Speaker 1: go sing my part, send it to him. And the

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Speaker 1: first time that we met, sang the song and I

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Speaker 1: jumped on their bus. Was all. I went to the

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Speaker 1: Houston UH Stampede and met him, sang it and jumped

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Speaker 1: on the bus for two weeks. Wow. Yeah, but it

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Speaker 1: ended up being great. But that's how that happened, just

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Speaker 1: singing and Whiskey jammy herban and you got to meet

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Speaker 1: radio people with him. Yes, that was a yeah. Again,

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Speaker 1: these experiences where I'm in the room but it's not

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Speaker 1: me that's front and center, because that's how I remember you.

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Speaker 1: It's the only way. Honestly. I was like, Carli Pierce,

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Speaker 1: I know her from her name on board, which was

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Speaker 1: with Josh when you did the song with Josh. So yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: funny how things work out, huh, never know? Okay, well,

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Speaker 1: good luck with life. Thank you. Um, you know, these

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Speaker 1: things live for ever, so it's kind of hard to

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Speaker 1: talk about anything in real time. But if you do

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Speaker 1: hear this in the next couple of months, we put

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Speaker 1: it up like come out to a show because carl

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Speaker 1: will be playing. She's the featured musical performer of the show. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, that's good. It's fun. I'm glad. It was

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Speaker 1: a whole thing. It was like they were like, who

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Speaker 1: do you because we have we have Walker. I'm such

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Speaker 1: a big Walker fans. He's so good for like, you know,

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Speaker 1: but before it was cool via Walker fan. I was

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Speaker 1: a Walker fan, right, And I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: cool not to be a Walker fan, just I'm a

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Speaker 1: Walker fan. And so I was like, hey, like six

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Speaker 1: months before this stand up tour, was like, hey, dude,

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Speaker 1: come on tour and do every day with me. We'll

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Speaker 1: do twenty maybe daights and he was like yeah. Well

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Speaker 1: then in that time, people started like whoa this first

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Speaker 1: of Walker can write his brains out, like it's such

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Speaker 1: a great too many words sometimes for making I'm like, dude,

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Speaker 1: I mean, where'd you come putting this line here? Because

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Speaker 1: I've we've written walking over together, but h Walker has

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Speaker 1: to go. Now Walker is going to go and do

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Speaker 1: a real tour with t Rette. And so they're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: who do you want? I was like, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I think I want Carlyle's And so we went from

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Speaker 1: my I remember text you be like hey, do you

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Speaker 1: know anything? And You're like no, do you know anything?

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Speaker 1: We're like no, not the one of us know anything.

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Speaker 1: Maybe if we're gonna And so I'm glad it was too.

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Speaker 1: I'm really excited. It's gonna be fun. You will have fun.

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Speaker 1: There'll be a point we're like, man, I wish I

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Speaker 1: was getting paid more, but no, Now you will be

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Speaker 1: always honest with me. But um, it'll be the best environments.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm excited Walker left. He was like, dude, this

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Speaker 1: is the gradios ever played because the people that come

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Speaker 1: out are just awesome. Um from now until I don't

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Speaker 1: know whenever we stopped this thing, um, but Carly will

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Speaker 1: be doing shows for the next couple of months after

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Speaker 1: in in between doing radio shows. It's really good to

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Speaker 1: have you up and good luck and thank you. I'll

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Speaker 1: see you and people will see we'll see each other

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Speaker 1: on and I don't know. It's weird because at least

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Speaker 1: Walker was here, like we're already on the road together,

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Speaker 1: right yeah, yeah, Okay, good luck. Thank Next time you

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Speaker 1: come in, you have to have like three to get

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Speaker 1: a second time, you gotta have like three hits in

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Speaker 1: the middle. So after the third time that you've had

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01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: to listen to every Bobby cast because we will quiz you,

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Speaker 1: I'll go back. I'm gonna do my homework between that.

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Speaker 1: Definitely don't do that, all right, We're gonna go, um,

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Speaker 1: Carli Pierce and download every little thing. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: can stream it if you want. I'd really download it

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01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 1: because at least, yeah, her do you live at least

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01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:30,200
Speaker 1: in the south? Is live in the South? Hear it?

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01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: But poor Frankie man, Poor Frankie. I've been on the

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Speaker 1: I've been on both sides of this. I've been on

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Speaker 1: this side of dating a girl that written a song

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Speaker 1: written song aboutnother guy, and then same girl and then

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Speaker 1: her dating another dude with a song about me, And

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Speaker 1: which side is more fun? No, no, don't care. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you which is more fun. I'm just just spit.

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Speaker 1: I'm laing. That's hard. The second was way more fun

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01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,680
Speaker 1: because you're like, that was a night I've already set

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01:10:00,720 --> 01:10:05,719
Speaker 1: through that once. Oh man, yeah you always yeah, whatever, Alright,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna go, Um, Carla Pierce. What episodes is? Mike? Alright?

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Speaker 1: Sixty two at at Carli Pierce c A R L

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Speaker 1: Y p E A r C Mike d stro at

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Speaker 1: m I K E D E E s t r oh.

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Speaker 1: podcast about songwriting and stories from behind the scenes is

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Speaker 1: getting so much traction. So we appreciate you listening. That's

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Speaker 1: it sixty two and we'll see you next time here

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