1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:01,359 Speaker 1: Breaking news. 2 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 2: Now, all right, thanks Scotcham and thanks to all of you. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: Let's go right to Special Council Jack Smith, who released 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 2: his indictment against Donald Trump, thirty seven federal charges. He's 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 2: speaking now, we start from the top. Just started one 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: minute ago. 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 1: Good afternoon. 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 3: Today, an indict moves unsealed, charging Donald J. Trump with 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 3: felony violations of our national security laws, as well as 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 3: participating in a conspiracy to obstruct justice. This indictment was 11 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: voted by a grand jury of citizens in the Southern 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 3: District of Florida, and I invite everyone to read it 13 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 3: in full to understand the scope and the gravity of 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 3: the crimes charged. The men and women of the United 15 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 3: States Intelligence community and our armed forces dedicate their lives 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 3: to protecting our nation and its people. Are laws that 17 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: protect national defense information are critical for the safety and 18 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 3: security of the United States, and they must be enforced. 19 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 3: Violations of those laws put our country at risk. Adherence 20 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: to the rule of law is a bedrock principle of 21 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 3: the Department of Justice, and our nation's commitment to the 22 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: rule of law sets an example for the world. We 23 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 3: have one set of laws in this country, and they 24 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: apply to everyone applying those laws collecting facts. That's what 25 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: determines the outcome of an investigation, nothing more and nothing less. 26 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: The prosecutors in my office are among the most talented 27 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 3: and experienced in the Department of Justice. They have investigated 28 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: this case hewing to the highest ethical standards, and they 29 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 3: will continue to do so as this case proceeds. It's 30 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: very important for me to note that the defendants in 31 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: this case must be presumed innocent until proven guilty beyond 32 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 3: a reasonable doubt in a court of law. To that end, 33 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 3: my office will seek a speedy trial in this matter 34 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: consistent with the public interest and the rights of the accused. 35 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 3: We very much look forward to presenting our case to 36 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 3: a jury of citizens in the Southern. 37 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: District of Florida. 38 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: In conclusion, I would like to thank the dedicated public 39 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: servants of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, with whom my 40 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 3: office is conducting this investigation, and who work tirelessly every 41 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: day upholding the rule of law in our country. I'm 42 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 3: deeply proud to stand shoulder to shoulder with them. Thank 43 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 3: you very much. 44 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: All right. 45 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 2: That is the full statement of Jack Smith. By laws 46 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: are critical to the safety and security of the United States, 47 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 2: and that's our commitment. We have one set of laws 48 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: that apply to everyone. He goes on to say, nothing more, 49 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: nothing less, and they use the highest ethical standards, and 50 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: defendants are innocent until proven guilty, look forward to presenting 51 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:15,959 Speaker 2: it to a jury, etc. 52 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: Et cetera, et cetera. 53 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 2: Let's go back to July twenty sixteen, shall we, and 54 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 2: let's go to the former FBI director, and that would 55 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: be I'm sure the same set of standards and laws 56 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 2: apply to Hillary. Let's remind everybody what James Comey said 57 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: that very very important day when he talked about top 58 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 2: secret classified documents that were in Hillary Clinton's possession. Never 59 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: Mind the thirty three thousand that she deleted emails on 60 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: our servers, and the Bleach bit to delete them, which 61 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: would be called obstruction. 62 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: Never mind any of that. 63 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: Let's see if what Jack Smith just said is applicable 64 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: to what James Comby is saying. 65 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 1: Here. 66 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 4: From the group of thirty thousand emails returned to the 67 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 4: State Department in twenty fourteen, one hundred and ten emails 68 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 4: in fifty two email chains have been determined by the 69 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 4: owning agency to contain classified information at the time they 70 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 4: were sent. 71 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: Or received. 72 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 4: Eight of those chains contained information that was top secret, 73 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 4: thirty six of those chains contained secret information at the time, 74 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 4: and eight contained confidential information at the time. Although we 75 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 4: did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her 76 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 4: colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, 77 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 4: there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their 78 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 4: handling a very sensitive, highly classified information. Although there is 79 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 4: evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling 80 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 4: of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor 81 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 4: would bring such a case. 82 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: No reasonable part. 83 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: Let's see thirty thousand emails, one hundred and ten emails, 84 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: fifty two email chains with classified top secret information. Eight 85 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 2: of the change are top secret, thirty six a secret, 86 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 2: eight confidential, but no evidence of the intention of Hillary Clinton. 87 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 2: Oh okay, so I guess that pretty much answers everything. 88 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: Let me let me go to where we are today 89 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: and what this means. 90 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 5: It is. 91 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: If you listen to that press conference and listen to 92 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 2: everything that Jack Smith had to say, it is the 93 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 2: exact opposite in terms of how this country treated a 94 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: presidential candidate that they favored. I mean, we've heard James 95 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 2: Comey recently said it has to be only Joe Biden, 96 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 2: only Joe Biden, so we know where his political allegiance is. 97 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 2: We learned an awful lot about the twenty sixteen election 98 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 2: and other various activities. 99 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: Nobody's been held accountable. 100 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 2: If we're gonna, you know again, if we're going to 101 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: apply the laws and talk about the safety of the 102 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: United States, you think it's wise for the United States 103 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 2: to be using a bought and paid for Russian disinformation 104 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: dossier paid for by one candidate unverify a bull. In 105 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 2: early October twenty sixteen, Comi's FBI offers a million dollars 106 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: to the author of this dossier, a series of documents 107 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: that cumulatively are known as the dossier. And if they 108 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 2: could if Christopher Steele could only corroborate the dossier, he 109 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 2: couldn't collect his million dollars. But then it shows up 110 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 2: in not one, but four SEPARFISA applications, which says at 111 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 2: the top of the application verified. Now let's see, we 112 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: have one set of laws that apply to everyone. Now, 113 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: I wonder if I lie to a PISI court, if 114 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 2: I would get away with it just like James Calemy 115 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: got away with it. Three times, and Sally Ates once 116 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 2: and stein Wan's and a bunch of other people, because 117 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: I don't think that would be the case. You know, 118 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 2: we talk about the highest ethical standards and so on 119 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 2: and so forth. Okay, well, I'm looking at these charges. 120 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 2: It's a forty nine page indictment that lays out thirty 121 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: seven federal charges against Trump, including obstruction and unlawful retention 122 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: of defense information for storing dozens of classified documents at 123 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 2: his Florida resort mar A Lago and then refusing to 124 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: return them to the FBI and the National Archives. They 125 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 2: also named in the indictment of former presidential aid. I 126 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 2: have no idea who this individual is. I might have 127 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: met him over the years. I have no idea Walt Nauta, 128 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 2: but you know, I was not one that ever frequented 129 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 2: at all Mara A Lago except for mostly interviews. Anyway, 130 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: who remained in his employee after Trump left office. He 131 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: now faces six charges because I guess he listened to 132 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: his boss and moved boxes. You know, there's this whole 133 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: narrative at the beg beginning of this indictment that you 134 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 2: would think that Donald Trump ordered every single solitary document 135 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 2: to be packed that's not how the process works. The 136 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: way it works is it's chaotic. Just like in the 137 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 2: early days of the Trump administration. James Comy freely admitted 138 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 2: that he took advantage of the chaos of the new 139 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:24,679 Speaker 2: administration to send his FBI officials over not read Miranda 140 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: rights to General Flynn, but to start to probe against 141 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 2: him for the purpose of investigating him, but not telling 142 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: him that they're investigating them. Taking advantage of the chaos 143 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 2: of an early administration, with this chaos at the end 144 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 2: of administrations and this chaos at the beginning of an administration. 145 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,479 Speaker 2: But I don't recall any FBI director ever taking advantage 146 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 2: of that and denying somebody what I believe is this 147 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 2: fundamental constitutional right. 148 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: You know. 149 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 2: But thirty one of these counts or thirty one of 150 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: these such documents, and this covers counts one through thirty one, 151 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 2: there are, if you look in total, thirty seven federal 152 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 2: charges now against Trump, one for each document. By the 153 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 2: way that they're specifically referring to. I guess you could 154 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: look at the one hundred and ten emails with fifty 155 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: two email chains the Hillary Clinton and that doesn't include 156 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 2: the thirty three thousand that she deleted with bleach bit 157 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 2: and then had devices destroyed with hammers. 158 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: So again, but. 159 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 2: Jack Smith said, we have only one set of laws 160 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 2: that apply to everyone. Now why does that in his 161 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 2: very short statement, I would argue because he's very sensitive 162 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 2: to the obvious comparisons that will be made, and that 163 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 2: is that how Hillary was treated versus how Trump is 164 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 2: being treated, how Joe Biden has been treated versus how 165 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: Trump has been treated. Seems like if those words really matter, 166 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: you would think the same application of these things would happen. 167 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 2: Because with the Biden case, they've never given us full 168 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 2: accounting of what they found. At four separate locations. One 169 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 2: is the Biden garage with his ever so prized and 170 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 2: love corvette, the other being the Pen Biden Center at 171 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 2: U Penn, the other one being the University of Delaware. 172 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 2: They have paper's top secret classified information going back to 173 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: the time he was a senator. And then of course 174 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: his beach house when you know, they told him they 175 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 2: were going, but they gave him two weeks to go 176 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:28,599 Speaker 2: clean it out and they still found, you know, classified 177 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 2: documents there. Anyway, the summary is, you know, if you 178 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: look at it, the wilful retention of national defense information. 179 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: That would be charges one through thirty one each individual count, 180 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 2: and the investigation conspiracy to obstruct justice. How the President 181 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 2: and his aid along with others are charged with conspiring 182 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 2: to keep those documents from the grand jury, with holding 183 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 2: a document or a record, and they're accused of misleading 184 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: one of their attorneys by moving boxes or classified documents 185 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: so the attorney could not find or introduce them to 186 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: the grand jury, are corruptly concealing a document or record 187 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 2: retaining to the President and his age, alleged attempts to 188 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 2: hide the boxes of classified documents from the attorney, concealing 189 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: a document in a federal investigation, accusing they are accused 190 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 2: of hiding Trump's continued possession of these documents at Mara 191 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 2: a Lago from the FBI, and causing a false certificate 192 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,479 Speaker 2: to be submitted to the FBI, a scheme to conceal 193 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: That's an allegation that the President and his aid hid 194 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 2: Trump's continued possession of these materials from the FBI and 195 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: the grand jury. And false statements of representations. I mean, 196 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 2: they just go on and on. They just piled on 197 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 2: every single solitary thing that they could pile on here, 198 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 2: you know, beyond the thirty one individual charges of documents, 199 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 2: which is what this is. I mean, very redundant, very repetitive. 200 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 2: When you actually look at the the indictment, you know 201 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 2: it says okay, top secret, you know, not for foreign 202 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: national special handling. You know, one document after another that 203 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 2: is listed. That was the thirty one of the thirty 204 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: seven counts. So it sounds like a lot more, but 205 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 2: each individual count carries a significant penalty. Now they also 206 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: are claiming that they have audio tapes of Donald Trump 207 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: acknowledging that he had not at one point said that 208 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: he did at one point recognize that I could have 209 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 2: declassified something as president. I didn't, therefore I can share it, 210 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: but then claiming that he shared it with people that 211 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: were around him. What that is I don't know. I mean, 212 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: these are things that we'll find out in the days 213 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: and weeks ahead anyway. So let me go over Jack 214 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: Smith's statement in a little more detail talent specificity here, 215 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 2: because I think it's important to know the indictment unsealed 216 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 2: Donald Trump, grand jury, etc. 217 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: Etc. 218 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: I mighte everyone to read it in full understand the 219 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: scope gravity of the crimes. Many women of the United 220 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 2: States Intelligence community are armed forces. They dedicate their lives 221 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,439 Speaker 2: to protecting the nation and its people. Are laws that 222 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: protect national defense information. They are critical to the safety 223 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 2: and security of the United States. They must be enforced 224 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: or are they enforced? On Hillary Clinton? I asked that 225 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 2: question because he further goes on to say that our laws, 226 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: our set of laws, applied everyone. I'll get to that 227 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 2: in a second. He says, our laws protect national defense 228 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 2: information that are critical to our safety and security. Violation 229 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 2: of those laws put our country at risk. Adherence to 230 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: the rule of laws of Bedrock principle, or a Department 231 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 2: of Justice in our nation's commitment to the rule of laws. 232 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: That's an example to the world. One set of laws 233 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 2: in this country and they apply to everyone. 234 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: No, they don't. That is a false statement. 235 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 2: Applying those laws collecting facts and that is what determines 236 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 2: the outcome of an investigation. Nothing more, nothing less. My 237 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 2: prosecutors are among the most talented experience in the Department 238 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 2: of Justice. 239 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. 240 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 2: The only difference is is they don't apply these laws 241 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: equally anyway. Eight hundred ninety four one show and we'll 242 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 2: get our legal analysis. 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And what 278 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 2: the discovering with four D ultrasound is that when expecting 279 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 2: moms see fingers and toes and facial features, things that 280 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,479 Speaker 2: I couldn't see with an ultrasound when my kids were 281 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: you know, when they were expected to be born. Anyways, 282 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 2: it's gotten so sophisticated it is changing their hearts. And 283 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 2: all of these ultrasounds are given for free. They also 284 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 2: offer free counseling. They offer baby formula, diapers, food, whatever 285 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 2: expecting moms may need both before and after the birth 286 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 2: of a child. And they're just basically appealing to hearts 287 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 2: and using sign to do it with. One young woman 288 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: was pregnant, goes to an abortion clinic. She didn't want 289 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: to tell her parents. While she was there, she says, Mom, 290 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: I'm pregnant. I'm having an appointment to have an abortion. 291 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 2: I can't do it because she heard an ad just 292 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: like this on preborn and anyway, she ended up giving 293 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: life to that precious baby. For those of you that 294 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 2: are believing the sanctity of life or part of the 295 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 2: pro life movement, this science is actually working. They don't 296 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,639 Speaker 2: get a penny from the federal government like Planned parenthood. 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Then conspiracy to 308 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: obstruct justice will hold a document or a record, corruptly 309 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 2: conceal a document or record, concealing a document in a 310 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: federal events investigation, scheme to conceal false statements and representations, 311 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 2: and false statements and representations too. We'll get to the 312 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 2: specifics with Alan Dershwitz. Now, before we get to that point, 313 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,119 Speaker 2: Jack Smith just spoke and he said, many women and 314 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 2: of the US intelligence community, men and women, and our 315 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: armed forces, they dedicate their lives to protecting their nation 316 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 2: and its people. Our laws that protect national defense information. 317 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:29,919 Speaker 2: They are critical to the safety and security of this country, 318 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 2: the United States, and they must be enforced. Violations of 319 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: those laws put our country at risk. Adherence to the 320 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 2: rule of laws of Bedrock principle of the Department of Justice. 321 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: It is our nation's commitment to the rule of law 322 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: that sets an example to the world. We have one 323 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 2: set of laws in this country and they apply to everyone. 324 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 2: Applying those laws, collecting facts. That is what determines the 325 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: outcome of an investigation. Nothing more, nothing less. Let me 326 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 2: play three cuts for you, and then we'll bring and 327 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: Professor Dershowitz, who wrote the best selling book Get Trump, 328 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 2: this is James Comy, and this is James Comy in 329 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: July of twenty sixteen, laying out all the top secret 330 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 2: classified information that she found on Hillary Clinton's service. Now 331 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,800 Speaker 2: please take note it did not include the thirty three 332 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 2: thousand deleted emails with bleach bit never to be found again, 333 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: or the device is destroyed by hammers, blackberries and iPhones 334 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 2: and simcards removed. That's not included in his list. But 335 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 2: this is what he said that day in July, from. 336 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 4: The group of thirty thousand emails returned to the State 337 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 4: Department in twenty fourteen one and ten emails in fifty 338 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 4: two email chains have been determined by the owning agency 339 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 4: to contain classified information at the time they were sent 340 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 4: or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was 341 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 4: top secret, thirty six of those chains contained secret information 342 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 4: at the time, an eight contained confidential information at the time. 343 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 4: Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton 344 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 4: or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling 345 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 4: of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely 346 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 4: careless in their handling a very sensitive, highly classified information. 347 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 4: Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes 348 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: regarding the handling of classified information. Our judgment is that 349 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 4: no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. 350 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 2: Now, James Comy two days later before Congress, admitting the 351 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: Hillary instructor Jake Sullivan to remove classified marking so she 352 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 2: could fax the classified document. And I'll add one other point. 353 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 2: Comy admitted in that presser that in fact they believed 354 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 2: the foreign adversaries of the US had access to all 355 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton's emails. 356 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 6: Listen, how did the Department of Justice or how did 357 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 6: the FBI view the incident in which Hillary Clinton instructed 358 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 6: Jakeson to take the markings off of a document that 359 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 6: was to be sent to her. 360 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, we looked at that pretty closely. There was some 361 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 4: problem with their secure facts machine, and there's an email 362 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 4: in which she says, in substance, take the headers off 363 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 4: of it and send it as a non paper. As 364 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 4: we've dug into that more deeply, we've come to learn 365 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 4: that at least there's one view of it that is reasonable. 366 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 4: That a non paper in State Department parlance, means a 367 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 4: document that contains things we could pass to another government. 368 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 4: So essentially, take out anything that's classified and send it 369 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 4: to me. Now, it turned out that didn't happen because 370 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 4: we actually found that the classified facts was then sent. 371 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 4: But that's our best understanding of what that was about. 372 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 6: So this was a classified facts, correct. So Jake Sullivan says, 373 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,880 Speaker 6: they say they had issues sending secure facts. They're working 374 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 6: on it. Hillary Clinton sends to Jake Sullivan, if they 375 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 6: can't turn into non paper with no identy, find heading 376 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 6: and send non secure, So you're telling me it's a 377 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 6: classified piece of information. She's taking off the header and 378 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 6: she's instructing them to send it in a non secure format. 379 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,919 Speaker 2: Here's another cut that we bring in, Professor Dershowitz, and 380 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: that's Komy testifying same committee two days after as no 381 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: reasonable prosecutor would prosecute that ten people had access to 382 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,359 Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton's servers and Hillary's lawyers went through the emails 383 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 2: without any security clearance. Now, Jack Smith said that we 384 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 2: have one set of rule, one set of laws in 385 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 2: this country, and they applied to everyone, Well, didn't apply 386 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 2: to her from what I'm hearing. 387 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 4: Listen, Yeah, there's no doubt that uncleared people had access 388 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 4: to the server because even after Pagliano, there were others 389 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 4: who maintained the server who were private sector folks. 390 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 6: So there are hundreds of classified documents on these servers. 391 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 6: How many people without a security clearance had access to 392 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 6: that server? 393 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 4: I don't know the exact numbers. I say here, it's 394 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 4: probably more than two, less than ten. 395 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 6: I appreciate your willingness to follow up with this. Did 396 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 6: Secretary Clinton's attorneys have the security clearances needed? 397 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 4: They did not? 398 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,159 Speaker 6: Does that concern you? 399 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 5: Oh? 400 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 4: Yeah? Sure. 401 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 6: Is there any consequence to an attorney rifling through Secretary 402 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 6: Clinton's Hillary Clinton's emails without a security clearance? 403 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 4: Well, not so criminal consequences, but there's a great deal 404 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 4: of concern about an uncleared person not subject to the 405 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 4: requirements we talked about in the reading documents potentially having access. 406 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,520 Speaker 4: That's why very very important for us to recover everything 407 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 4: we can back from attorneys. 408 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 6: So what's the consequence I mean here, Hillary Clinton gave 409 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,680 Speaker 6: direction to her attorneys without a security clearance to go 410 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 6: through documents that were classified. 411 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 4: I think that's what happened. In fact, whether that was 412 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 4: the direction is a question I can't answer. Sitting here. 413 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: Jowing us now, the author of the best selling book 414 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 2: Get Trump, Professor Alan Dershowitz, is with us. Professor, Well, 415 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,159 Speaker 2: you wrote a lot about this. Let me ask you 416 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 2: the obvious. I just played three cuts of James Comye, 417 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: we just heard from Jack Smith saying, we have one 418 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 2: set of laws in this country and they apply to everyone. 419 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 2: Do you believe the standard that Jack Smith applied to 420 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 2: Donald Trump in this indictment today was applied to Hillary Clinton. 421 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 7: No, I don't. And Smith did something very clever. He 422 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 7: didn't indict Trump under the section of the Espionage Act 423 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 7: that permits indictments for gross negligence or negligence, which is 424 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 7: what Hillary Clinton was suspected of. In what Comy said, 425 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 7: nobody's ever been prosecuted for. He deliberately changed and went 426 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,159 Speaker 7: after Trump on the wilfulness section. I don't want to 427 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 7: give you the numbers, but it's e versus f of 428 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,959 Speaker 7: the statute, so that he could make the argument that 429 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 7: I'm distinguishing this because we're not charging Trump with negligence 430 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 7: of gross negligence. We're charging him with willfully and knowingly 431 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 7: holding on to material and transmitting it to other people. Remember, 432 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 7: the key point in this indictment, and the one that 433 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 7: is the most difficult for Trump, is that tape conversation 434 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 7: with the Meadows writer, in which he says this is 435 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 7: a secret that hasn't been classified. I could have declassified it. 436 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 7: We don't know whether he actually showed it to him 437 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 7: or just allowed him to look at the fact that 438 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 7: he had this. But the clearly what the special prosecutor 439 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 7: of the prosecutor is trying to do is distinguish this 440 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 7: case from Hillary Clinton, from Pence, from Joe Biden, from 441 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 7: Sandy Berger. Will I have to wake this see the 442 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 7: evidence and whether or not there's a distinction. It's easy 443 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 7: for a prosecute used to say I'm going under this 444 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,400 Speaker 7: section of the statute and that distinguishes it. No, that 445 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 7: doesn't distinguish it. What distinguishes it the fact and the evidence. 446 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: All right, Now, you've had a chance to look at 447 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: this unsealed indictment. You heard from Jack Smith today, and 448 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 2: you know, we know all about Joe Biden. We have 449 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 2: four locations, he has top secret classified information, and we 450 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,639 Speaker 2: know all about Hillary Clinton. And I want to know 451 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: if we have equal justice from what you can see, 452 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: an application of our laws in this country, or are 453 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,200 Speaker 2: they just you know, again, pursuing Donald Trump because he's 454 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. I mean, do you believe that in fact 455 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 2: we have equal justice and application of our laws. 456 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 7: No, I don't think they ever would have opened an 457 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 7: investigation against somebody who wasn't Trump. And once they opened 458 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 7: the investigation, then you always get process crimes. You get 459 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 7: people being guided from moving a box here and there, 460 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 7: for talking to a lawyer, for doing other things. And 461 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 7: I've read the indictment very carefully, and most of it 462 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 7: is stuff that could easily have covered a pass and 463 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 7: other people. The one thing that stands out, and we 464 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 7: have to wait for an explanation for that. Maybe there'll 465 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 7: be a good one, is that recorded conversation with the 466 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 7: writer who's writing about meadows. That will be the heart 467 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 7: and soul of the case. It's interesting that the indictment 468 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 7: puts that front and center right in the beginning of 469 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 7: the indictment, and then it ignores it almost completely when 470 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 7: it comes to charging. I couldn't even find it. It 471 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 7: was very Finally at the looking I found that, you know, 472 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 7: the violation of the espionage jack fight by disclosure. But 473 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 7: that's the key point that has to be explained. Everything 474 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 7: else in the indictment could have really been directed against 475 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:43,919 Speaker 7: Hillary Clinton and perhaps to some degree against President Biden. 476 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 7: So no, I don't think phys equal justice. 477 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: You know, as you read this now, I think one 478 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: thing that did happen with Donald Trump and on some 479 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: other points I just haven't made up to this point, 480 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 2: is you know, we're learning more that for example, he 481 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 2: apparently has got a trumpet point to judge presiding over 482 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: the document's case trial. 483 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: To me, that that may mean the. 484 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 2: Difference between conviction and non conviction, because if this case 485 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 2: was tried in DC, there's no way he'd have even 486 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 2: a shot at a fair trial. Yeah, I'm not sure 487 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: why they hit a valet. I mean, did the valet 488 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 2: of President Trump really know what what his boss was 489 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 2: asking him to do? That seems like a stretch to me, 490 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: But you know, I guess both we'll find out in time. 491 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: Uh. That seemed like a bit of overreach to me. 492 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 5: Uh. 493 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 2: What do you make of the fact that the president's 494 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: lawyers now have resigned in this case? That that can't 495 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: be good for President Trump? 496 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 7: Well, no, I think it could be good for President Trump. 497 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 7: I think once you decide that the case is going 498 00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 7: to be in South Florida, in pum Beach, and you 499 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 7: know who the judge is, you you know, arrange your 500 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 7: batting order differently the way a manager would be decides 501 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 7: you know who the picture is. So you know, calling 502 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 7: an adible here and changing lawyers may be a good thing. 503 00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 7: The reason why the Vallet was indicted, you do with 504 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 7: the Valle. They want to flip them. You know that 505 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 7: prosecutors can put enormous pressure on people like him who 506 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 7: wouldn't have any money, and can get him not only 507 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 7: to sing, but perhaps to compose write some lyrics and 508 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 7: music that the prosecutor would like to hear. So the 509 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 7: reason they indicted him is simply to get him to flip. 510 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 7: And he seems like a loyal fellow who maybe you 511 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 7: won't flip. But we don't know that for sure. 512 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 1: You know, I just I can't even imagine. You know, 513 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: this is all in the lead up to a race. Now. 514 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,600 Speaker 2: A lot of people don't know, Professor, that the DOJ 515 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 2: is part of the executive branch of government. This is 516 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: Biden's DOJ. Now, we would like to think that justice 517 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 2: is blind and equal application exists. But you know what, 518 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: we haven't heard a peep out of the special council 519 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,320 Speaker 2: appointed to looking at Joe Biden's issues. Haven't heard word 520 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 2: one about any grand jury convened. We have four separate locations, 521 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 2: a garage, the Biden you can in center, the University 522 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 2: of Delaware, a beach house in Delaware, and top secret 523 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 2: classified information. Why does that seem less severe in the 524 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 2: minds of special counsels. 525 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 7: It shouldn't be. And what I suspect will happen is 526 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 7: that the special counsel will indicte the Hunter Biden on 527 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 7: two technical slap on the risk charges having falsely filled 528 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 7: out a gun. 529 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 2: So that's to create a false narrative that there's equal justice, 530 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 2: when in fact, if they were really going to go 531 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: after the Biden family, they would look into the fact 532 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: that Joe lied about having conversations with his son about 533 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 2: his foreign business dealings and having meetings and having his 534 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 2: son implicate him by giving him monies repeatedly in his 535 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: own laptop. 536 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 7: It's not a crime to lie. It's a sin, but 537 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 7: it's not a crime as long as he didn't lie 538 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 7: to with law enforcement officials or to Congress or under oath. 539 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 7: But it's relevant, obviously, and a lot of people in 540 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 7: America don't leave that they didn't speak about this. But 541 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 7: you know, well there should be. 542 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 2: Well, we know of at least fourteen meetings, We have 543 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 2: photographic evidence that he lied and was meeting with Hunter 544 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 2: and Hunter Biden's business associates. 545 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 7: No question, no question that there's enough years. I've said before, 546 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 7: there is probable cause to conduct a serious investigation to 547 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 7: make sure that the law is applied equally. 548 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: And well they've had that since December twenty nineteen, and 549 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,640 Speaker 2: here we are. They move with the speed warp speed, 550 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 2: the speed of light to get Donald Trump. And yet 551 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 2: they've been sitting on everything involving Hunter. And it's only 552 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,479 Speaker 2: taken a Republican Congress to fight to get the stars 553 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: reports and find LLCs that were hidden all over the 554 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,360 Speaker 2: Biden family. 555 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 7: That's why we have checks and balance. Is how important 556 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 7: it is to have a system where the House can 557 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 7: be under the leadership of one party and the Senate 558 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 7: and the Executive and other party. So we have checks 559 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 7: and balances. And I think it's important for the Republicans 560 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 7: to be looking in to this very Jerry Jerry, with 561 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 7: great scrutiny, and you know, I maybe they come up 562 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 7: with a draft indictment that they would have issued. 563 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 2: Again a great idea. I got to run, Professor. 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They got read 589 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: the testimony in DC. I'll explain that when we get back.