1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,559 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 2 00:00:06,800 --> 00:00:10,400 Speaker 2: In the last days, a judge makes a major ruling 3 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: on the student, the American student the last person to 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: see University of Pittsburgh girl Sudiksha Kananki before she disappeared, 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 2: a major ruling. I'm Nancy Grace. This is crime Stories. 6 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 2: Thank you for being with us. All eyes on the 7 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 2: DR Dominican Republic. When a beautiful young University of Pittsburgh student, 8 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 2: Sudiitsha Konanki, disappeared after a late night slash early morning 9 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 2: beach walk with another US student, wrestler Joshua reb According 10 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 2: to many, his statements were conflicting as he explained the 11 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 2: last time he saw Sadiksha after a careful examination of him, 12 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: I just agree while he added facts each time he 13 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: was questioned exhaustively, I might add by Dominican authorities. I 14 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: never saw a real conflict inconsistencies in what he said 15 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: that said. In the last hours, a judge in the 16 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: DR officially declares Iowa High School wrestling star Joshua Rebe, 17 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: clearing him of any involvement in the disappearance of University 18 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 2: of Pittsburgh students Juditsha Kunanki. This brings to an end 19 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: the high profile case that kept Rebe detained on the 20 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: Caribbean island for weeks. Judge Edwin Delgado reaffirms an earlier 21 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: decision that allowed Rebe, a senior Saint Cloud State University, 22 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: to come home. 23 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: What happened? 24 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 2: This beautiful young girl goes down to dr with friends. 25 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: They're out having a good time dancing. 26 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 2: They go so from moonlight, walk on the beach and 27 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 2: now all that's left is a sarong and some flip flops. 28 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: Listen. 29 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: The search intensifies after what is believed to be Kanaki's 30 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 3: sarong and flip flops are found on a beach chair. 31 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 3: Local news outlet CDN post images of a white netted 32 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: beach cover up and a pair of flip flops similar 33 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 3: to what Sudisha was wearing when she was last seen. 34 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,399 Speaker 3: The photos of what could be Kanaki's belongings are seen 35 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 3: sprawled across a sun lounger and in the sand beside 36 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: the chair. 37 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: Why are they there, How did they get there, When 38 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 2: did they get there, how were they found? Where are 39 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 2: they tampered with? We're being told no, that's the biggest 40 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: clue we've got, other than some surveillance video and what 41 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 2: others have to say about the night Sudi just disappears 42 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 2: off the map. 43 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: Now, this is what her dad says. Everything was going 44 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: okay and she was really happy to have a laication 45 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: with our parents. 46 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 4: The next day she wanted to pu for her excussion, 47 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 4: and before that in the resort, she was fine with 48 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 4: the swimming pool. 49 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 1: That's our friends at ABC News. 50 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: This young girl a shining star University Pittsburgh, her world. 51 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: In front of her. 52 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 2: We've been told she was studying Premed, beautiful and brilliant. 53 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 2: Now all I've got left as a flip flop and 54 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 2: a sarong. Joining me in all star panel to makes 55 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: sense of what we are learning right now. Straight out 56 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: to Emily Layman joining us Northern Virginia local editor Patch 57 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 2: dot com. Emily, thank you for being with us. What happened? 58 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: What happened that night? 59 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 5: Tadiksha was on a spring break trip with five female friends. 60 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 5: It was reported that she got there on March third, 61 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 5: and then she was last seen in the early morning 62 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 5: of March. So they were at the hotel Rio Republica, 63 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 5: which is a popular spring break bought in Punta Khana 64 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 5: and the Dominican Republic. So surveillance footage shows that she 65 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 5: was headed to the beach with a group of friends, 66 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 5: and it was reported that there was a power outage 67 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 5: that prompted some of the hotel guests to go to 68 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 5: the beach in these early morning hours. But then the 69 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 5: surveillance footage shows that only some of that group returned 70 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 5: less than an hour later, and she was. 71 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: Not Some of that group does not include her. This 72 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: beautiful young girl missing Offspring Break DR. Now joining me 73 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 2: special guest, Sheriff Mike Chapman. He is joining us from 74 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: Laden County Sheriff's office. 75 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: He is the sheriff. And you may. 76 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 2: Wonder what does Sheriff Mike Chapman have to do with 77 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: this that she goes missing on spring break in the DR. 78 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 2: Sheriff Chapman, thank you for being with us, tell me 79 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: your involvement in her case. 80 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 4: Well, good to be with you. 81 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 6: And yeah, she's a resident of Loudon County. So we 82 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 6: received the missing personal report from her father on the 83 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 6: evening of the sixth, and immediately we got on that 84 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,239 Speaker 6: got ahold of the embassy down there and started getting 85 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 6: their involvement because we want to find out, like everybody else, 86 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:30,719 Speaker 6: exactly what happened here. We still consider her a missing person. 87 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 6: We're doing everything in our power to work with the 88 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 6: authorities down there, with the FBI, with other agencies that 89 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 6: are working with the Dominican Republic to see if we 90 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 6: can bring this thing to a successful conclusion. So she's 91 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 6: a resident of ours. We take every missing person seriously. 92 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 6: I've had an opportunity to meet with the father and 93 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 6: throwing my heart goes out. They're going through just to 94 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 6: try to set of circumstances right now, and we're doing 95 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 6: everything that we can to try to work with them, 96 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 6: with our Victim Assistant Unit kind of help with that 97 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 6: as well as doing everything we can to assist with 98 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 6: the investigation. 99 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: Sheriff Mike Chapman joining me from lowd County Sheriff's this 100 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 2: young girl is a resident along with her family there, 101 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: and Sheriff I can't imagine much worse than your child 102 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: going missing, and then your child going missing in another 103 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: jurisdiction across the ocean. You know, it seems like it's 104 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 2: a hop skipping a jump from the US, and it 105 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 2: is like, you know, an our flight, but it's. 106 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: A world away. 107 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: Their law enforcement is different, the way they process crime 108 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 2: scenes their interaction with victims family and Sheriff's conjuring up 109 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 2: horrible image of another young girl that goes on spring 110 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 2: break and is never seen again. 111 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 7: Listen tells me she doesn't want me to feel her up. 112 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 7: I insists, thank you, feeling her up either way. And 113 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 7: she needs me a sense of needing me in the crotch. 114 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 7: When she needs me in the crotch, I get up 115 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 7: on the beach and I kick her extremely hard in 116 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 7: the face. Yeah, she's laying down unconscious, possibly even even dead, 117 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 7: but definitely unconscious. And I see right next to her, 118 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 7: there's a there's a huge cinder block laying on the beach. 119 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: Just hearing the voice of your vanderslout, the judge's son 120 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 2: that murdered Natalie, it gives me a physical response. Now 121 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: that is the backdrop in everybody's mind in the search 122 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: for this beautiful young University Pittsburgh's student. 123 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: You know, Sheriff Chapman, that has to be on your mind. 124 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 1: Is she dead? 125 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: Is she a lot? Are we ever going to get 126 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: an answer because we never found Natalie's body. 127 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 6: Well, of course it is. And everything's a possibility right now. 128 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 6: That's why we send investigators down there. To actually get 129 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 6: a first hand account with Joshua Revey, the last person 130 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 6: that we know was with her, to try to get 131 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 6: his side of the story. There were some inconsistencies that 132 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 6: surfaced kind of early on, and we wanted to get 133 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 6: the information firsthand. I think those inconsistencies were minor, and 134 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 6: they probably had more to do with the translation from 135 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 6: at least to Spanish and vice versa. But that's why 136 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 6: we sent people down. We want to make sure we 137 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 6: get in the first hand account of what's going on there, 138 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 6: working with the Dominicans, working with the FBI down there, 139 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 6: because we just want to make sure that we don't 140 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 6: leave any stone unturned. And we are concerned, obviously, and 141 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 6: we want to do everything we can to help you 142 00:08:56,960 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 6: resolve this very very challenging and difficult situation. 143 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 2: I got to tell you something, Sheriff Mike Chapman, I 144 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 2: am so heartened and relieved that you. 145 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: Have sent your people down there. 146 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 2: I have study cases in the Islands, including in Mexico 147 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 2: as well, and it's a whole another system, it's a 148 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 2: whole another variety of law enforcement there. And knowing that 149 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: your people are there now the FBI has joined in, 150 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: is quite a comfort. Now, you mentioned that the main 151 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 2: person of interest as he is now called, has given 152 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 2: several different statements, But after analyzing the different statements, I'm 153 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 2: not sure how different they really are. 154 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: Let's listen. 155 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 8: In the first version of Reebey's account, he tells police 156 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 8: he and Kanonkey went into the water. He swallowed water 157 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 8: from the rough surf, which made him throw up, so 158 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 8: he went back to shore, but before leaving, he asked 159 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 8: k Donkey if she was okay. Reebe says he got 160 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 8: to the shore and threw up and laid down. 161 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: Okay, let's just analyze that, Okay, joining me as I 162 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: said an all star panel back to Sheriff Mike Chapman. 163 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: That is his, as it is called, his first statement. 164 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 2: Do you agree that that generally is his first statement? 165 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 6: That seems to be yes, that would be his first statement, 166 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 6: and that seems to be pretty consistent with what he said. 167 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 4: Since that time. 168 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 2: Okay, Let's take a listen to his so called second statement. 169 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 3: In Joshua Reebee's second version of events, he claims he 170 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 3: and Sadiksha are in waste deep water where they are 171 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 3: talking and kissing when a rogue wave crashes over them 172 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 3: and sweeps them into the current. Reebe claims they try 173 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 3: to call for help when they surface, but there is 174 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 3: no one around. Reebe further claims as a certified lifeguard, 175 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 3: he grabs Kanaki and holds her under his arm as 176 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: he tries to swim back to shore, all the while 177 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 3: trying to get her to breathe as he pulls them 178 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 3: back to the beach, but struggles to catch his breath. 179 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: Okay, let's analyze what we're hearing. I don't know if 180 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: you have ever found this to be true. 181 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 2: Joining me high profile lawyer Eric Fattus, trial lawyer, TV 182 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 2: Legal Analysts founding partner Varner Fattus Elite Legal. Eric statements 183 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 2: disturbed me when I find a discrepancy a conflict now 184 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 2: upon questioning, and they've been questioning this guy for hours 185 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: and hours and hours, why obviously they need a question 186 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 2: for hours and hours and hours. 187 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: He's the last one with her. 188 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,439 Speaker 2: Everybody else leaves and leaves him, much like in the 189 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 2: Nalie Holloway case. Everybody her friends left her, the Calpo 190 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 2: brothers left them alone on the beach, and she's never 191 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 2: seen again. Okay, so with that as a backdrop, his 192 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: story changed your Vanderschlou's story changed dramatically. It was full 193 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:57,000 Speaker 2: of conflicts, full of discrepancies. 194 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: But when you ask questions somebody for. 195 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 2: Hours, hours and hours and hours, and you ask them 196 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 2: different questions that may elicit embellishment, additional facts you didn't 197 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 2: hear the first time, not necessarily a conflict. 198 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, Nancy, And looking at both statements, you know, the 199 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 9: second statement has significantly more detail. It kind of tells 200 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 9: more of a harrowing story of rescuing her from the sea, 201 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 9: which wasn't entirely present in the first statement. It's my 202 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 9: understanding that being said, like you mentioned, when there are 203 00:12:25,320 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 9: multiple interviews, it's not uncommon for additional details to come 204 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 9: out as as each subsequent interview is had because there 205 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 9: are new questions that are being asked. Their other details 206 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 9: the investigators have that they're prying into, and so it's 207 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 9: not entirely uncommon. And my read on it is similar 208 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 9: to that of the sheriffs. 209 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: Hmmm, okay, I want to believe you. I want to 210 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 2: believe the sheriff and impute nothing but good intentions on everyone. 211 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: But when you look at the. 212 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: Two statements, I mean it just to me, let me 213 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 2: go straight out to Ben Dobrain joining me Emergency Medical 214 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 2: Service Marine Dive Team. Ben, it seems to me that 215 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 2: if I had grabbed somebody, which I have with both 216 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: of my children, by the way, on separate occasions, and 217 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: pulled them to shore, that I would have mentioned that 218 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: the first time. The first time, he says, he and 219 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: she went into the water. He swallowed water which made 220 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: him throw up. He went back to shore. He asked 221 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 2: her if she was okay. He got to shore and 222 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 2: threw up and laid down. Second version, he adds they're 223 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 2: kissing and making out in waste deep water. A rogue 224 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: wade crashes over them, sweeps them out into the current. 225 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 2: They try to call for help, no one around, and 226 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 2: he holds her under his arm and tries to swim 227 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: back to shore, trying to get her to Breathe that 228 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 2: is a lot of information, Ben, that he actually grabbed 229 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 2: her and pulled her back to safety. 230 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: I didn't hear that the first time. 231 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 4: Absolutely. And you know an interesting thing is, yes he 232 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: was a lifeguard, but he was a pool lifeguard. And 233 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 4: I want to point out there's a very clear distinction 234 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 4: between a pool lifeguard and being an ocean lifeguard. There's 235 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 4: very different tests, and the water is very different every 236 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 4: report both versions. The water was rough. Rough water is 237 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 4: very different than pool water. The bottom is different. In 238 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 4: the ocean, it's sandy, there's holes, there's dips, whereas in 239 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 4: a pool, you know, it's a pretty solid footing and 240 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 4: it's very predictable where it is. So you could be 241 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 4: walking in the water in the ocean and hit a 242 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 4: hole and be overhead, you know, very quickly. But for 243 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 4: a pool trained the lifeguard, you know, to be doing 244 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 4: a rescue in the ocean, there's the waves and you know, 245 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 4: one report said that he kept her head out of water. 246 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 4: He was trying to keep her head out of water, 247 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 4: but his head kept going underwater. That tells me he 248 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 4: didn't know how to do an ocean rescue. And it's 249 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 4: believable for somebody who's just a pool train lifeguard. And 250 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 4: you know, if he was throwing up water, if you've 251 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 4: ever been, you know, near drowning, and that's what that was. 252 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 4: If he's saying he was throwing up water, that thing 253 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 4: near drowning, he was concerned at that point, you know, 254 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 4: we're dealing with his own issues and not looking after her. 255 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 4: Whether he brought her to shore, or whether he abandoned her, 256 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 4: like the first one of the early versions that he 257 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 4: abandoned her in waste water, thinking she could walk by 258 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 4: herself back, with the later version saying he brought her 259 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 4: to shore before he let her, you know go, But 260 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 4: either way, you know, he's. 261 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: Suposed to go in throwing up. 262 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: Maybe projecting here, but I had a very serious dive 263 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: accident off the coast of Cosmo and nearly drowned and 264 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: was throwing up water. 265 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: It was kind of my nose, my mouth. 266 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 2: If you're in that shape, I don't know how you 267 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 2: can look around and see anything that's going on, which 268 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 2: goes to his benefit and to his detriment, because he 269 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: says he's throwing up and not paying attention. 270 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: And he looked around as she was gone. 271 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: On the other hand, he also says this, now listen 272 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 2: to the third version. 273 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 8: Joshua Reebe gives a third version of events where he 274 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 8: heroically gets Sadisha Kononky back to shore, but says he 275 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 8: swallowed a lot of water and could have lost consciousness 276 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 8: several times. Reaching the ground of the beach, he pulls 277 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 8: Kanonki in front of himself and she casually walks together 278 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 8: her belongings in knee deep water. Reebe says he asks 279 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 8: her if she's okay, but doesn't hear an answer due 280 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 8: to vomiting all of the salt water He's followed while 281 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 8: saving Kananki. He says he looked around and doesn't see anyone. 282 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 8: Assume she grabbed her belongings and left. Feeling bad and tired, 283 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 8: Reebe says he fell asleep in a beach chair. 284 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 285 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: In the last days, the Iowa High School wrestling star 286 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 2: Joshua Rebee has been cleared in the disappearance of a 287 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: gorgeous young university pit students rude Chi Kunaki's disappearance. 288 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: So much confusion clouded her case. 289 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 2: But I've got to tell you, I was very much 290 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: persuaded by Reebe's hours and hours of voluntarily speaking to 291 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 2: law enforcement in dr of him going to the scene 292 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,880 Speaker 2: willingly answering questions, not lawyering up as we often see 293 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 2: happen in the US. Straight out to Sheriff Mike Chapman 294 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: and joining us from Laudon County Sheriff. He is the 295 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 2: sheriff there who has sent reps from his office from 296 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 2: his force down to the dr to try to find her. 297 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 2: I've got a question and to your understanding, why is 298 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 2: the FBI. 299 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 6: Involved, Well, they're the contact at the US embassy, probably 300 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 6: the the best to lead this investigation from a US standpoint, 301 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 6: But you have to remember that it's a Dominican republic 302 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 6: is so they it really is their investigation. So the 303 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,440 Speaker 6: FBI is assisting and we're assisting. And one of the 304 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 6: things that you brought up before, Nancy was the fact 305 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 6: that it's a foreign country here, and people have to understand. 306 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 6: It may seem like America when you get there, because 307 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 6: you know, a resort like that, people are speaking English 308 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 6: and they're you know, it seems very friendly with a 309 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 6: lot of Americans there, But the fact is it's a 310 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 6: foreign country and there's a lot a lot of other 311 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 6: things that you have to deal with when you're when 312 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 6: you're in a foreign country. So we're assisting the FBI, 313 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 6: who was actually assisting the Dominican authorities there. And but 314 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 6: again I send my people down because we wanted to 315 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 6: get a first hand account and not here you know, 316 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:47,360 Speaker 6: secondhand information. 317 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,160 Speaker 2: You know, Sheriff, you've got a great record, You're beloved 318 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 2: and looked up to in your jurisdiction. But can we 319 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 2: just get real for a moment, the law enforcement in 320 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 2: the d R. 321 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? You think I'm going to trust 322 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: a law enforcement in the DR? 323 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: No, I'm not. 324 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: You know, I started writing a book, Don't be a Victim. 325 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: I got to the DR. 326 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 2: I practically had to write a whole chapter for Pete's sake. 327 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: You think they've got touched DNA. You think they know 328 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 2: how to use a VACK at a crime scene or 329 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 2: complicated blood spatter or anything remotely like what we have 330 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 2: developed in the United States. Does that's a yes? No, Sheriff, 331 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 2: Do you really believe that their investigation even approaches what 332 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 2: we would consider a world class investigation like you would 333 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 2: find in your jurisdiction. 334 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 6: Well, I'm retiring from VA. I served three times overseas, 335 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 6: and you're right, Nancy, you can't. You know, there's a 336 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 6: huge difference between what our foreign counterparts can do and 337 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,080 Speaker 6: what we can do and the capabilities that we have 338 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 6: in the US. I think the best thing that's going 339 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 6: on here right now is the fact that staying in 340 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 6: the news it kind of forces them to make sure 341 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 6: that they're on their game because they've got oversight they've got, 342 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 6: they've got everybody looking at it from across the globe. 343 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 6: Here with regards to the media, you have the FBI 344 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 6: that's looking at what they're doing down there, you have 345 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 6: us that's looking at what they're doing. 346 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: So the fact is that I. 347 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 6: Think all that helps hold them more accountable, and it 348 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 6: gives us the opportunity to share some of the capabilities 349 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 6: that we have with them. And I know, you know, 350 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 6: like the FBI, for example, I believe send a dive 351 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 6: team down so there's a lot, there's a lot that 352 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 6: we can offer there. And again it's a foreign country, 353 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 6: so we were trying to kind of help with them, 354 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 6: help guide them through it a little bit and make 355 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 6: sure they're not missing anything. 356 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 2: Okay, Sheriff Mike Chapman, you're being overly kind in your analysis, 357 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:51,120 Speaker 2: in my opinion, because every foreign investigation into a US 358 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: citizen going missing. 359 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: Has gone sideways. 360 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 4: Listen, and when you say cinder block, looking at the 361 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 4: walls of this place is like those. 362 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 7: Exact shames in their blocks. I see you, Shinder Black 363 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 7: laying on the on the beach. 364 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: I take this and. 365 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 7: I smashed her head in with it, completely her face basically, 366 00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 7: you know, collapses in. Even though it's dark, I can 367 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:25,200 Speaker 7: see her faces collapsed in. 368 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 2: Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, author of Blood Beneath My 369 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 2: Feet on Amazon, star of a hit series of body 370 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: Bags with Joseph Morgan. Joe Scott, you were with me 371 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,879 Speaker 2: in the courtroom there at the Hugo Black Federal Building 372 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 2: with Beth Holloway. You just heard the double killer yourn 373 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: Vandersloot describing how he murdered Natalie Holloway in Aruba. 374 00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: And you recall, Joe Scott, that Beth and I went 375 00:21:59,359 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: back to. 376 00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: To try on our own to stir up find more clues, 377 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 2: more anything to help find Natalie. 378 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: Your van der. 379 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 2: Slute was in court fourteen years later, and we still 380 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,959 Speaker 2: don't really know what happened to now. 381 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: The only thing I know is one thing that he 382 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 1: sex attacked her and he murdered her. 383 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 2: So all this about we're helping Dominican Republic. We better 384 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 2: go there and take over the investigation. 385 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: And let them help us. You really think, Joe Scott. 386 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 2: Morgan, that they have adequately handled the investigation into where 387 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 2: is Taditsha? No, they haven't, and we lost critical time, 388 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: critical time. 389 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 10: Joe Scott Yeah, pressure, pressure, pressure is what has to 390 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 10: constantly be applied in here, and you cannot take the 391 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 10: spotlight off of this case. We've seen how these cases 392 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 10: have gone over the years, and certainly Natalie's case is 393 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 10: a benchmark in time relative to what can happen as 394 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 10: memories begin to erode, and we don't want that to 395 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,920 Speaker 10: happen in this particular case. In the dr we have 396 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 10: to continue to press and I would suggest as well, 397 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 10: the party that she was with, and I'm talking about 398 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 10: this fellow that she was last seen with. I'm talking 399 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 10: about all of her friends that were there. They need 400 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 10: to be sequestered, and they need to be pressed about 401 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 10: all of the activities that they engaged in that evening 402 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 10: relative to any kind of consumption of alcohol, her behavior 403 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 10: prior to interacting with this young man, and then perhaps 404 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 10: if they observed her interacting with him on any level, 405 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 10: whether it be violent, whether it be romantic, as he 406 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 10: has implied, if you will, and you know, my biggest 407 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 10: thing here is were there any agents that were applied 408 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 10: to her relative to things that she had consumed. Remember, 409 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 10: one of the things that happened in the Holloway case 410 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 10: was that we had suspected for some period of time 411 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 10: that there may have been some kind of a neebriant 412 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 10: that was applied to her in her drinks at that 413 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 10: particular time. I'm thinking about things like GHB, date rape drugs, 414 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 10: those sorts of things. So word of warning here that 415 00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 10: needs to be because listen, don't we don't have her 416 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 10: to do a talks draw on, Okay, so we can't 417 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 10: tell you what's going on with her Talkscologically, all we 418 00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 10: have to rely upon are those people that were there 419 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 10: as witnesses to what had happened prior to her going 420 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 10: missing that night. That's going to be key. 421 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 11: Ny A spring great trip takes a turn for the 422 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 11: worst when twenty year old University of Pittsburgh students Zuditcha 423 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 11: Kanunky vanishes after a night out. 424 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 2: We're friends. Let's see that video one more time. I 425 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,920 Speaker 2: want to make sure you see what I'm seeing. This 426 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 2: is from our friend at know to see us, our 427 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 2: friends that know to see us. 428 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 1: Now she's on the left. 429 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 2: Look there she goes throwing up. That's Sadiksha on the left. 430 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 2: A friend is there, see right there? Okay, they're talking 431 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 2: to each other. But if you look on the right, 432 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 2: we believe that is him, see him, we think on 433 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 2: the right throwing up out by trash can now is 434 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 2: that everyone else's understanding or is that what we're seeing? 435 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,480 Speaker 2: Let's just start it over one more time, which leads 436 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 2: me to Joe Scott Morgan's question, what did they ingest 437 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 2: that's making them throw up? 438 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: Okay, take a listen to this. 439 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 8: Sadikha Kinanki and five college friends arrive in the Dominican 440 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 8: Republic on March third. They've booked rooms at the all 441 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,080 Speaker 8: inclusive resort Rio Republica impunt Takana. A couple of days later, 442 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 8: Sadeksha and her friends are dancing in a disco when 443 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 8: the resort experiences a twenty five hour power outage in 444 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 8: some areas. The group of six women and two men 445 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 8: decide to go for a moonlight walk on the beach. 446 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 8: Surveillance videos document Sidiksha Kananki in five women along with 447 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 8: two men, walking toward the beach. About an hour later, 448 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 8: surveillance footage shows five women and one man leaving the beach. 449 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 8: Kananki apparently stays behind on the beach with Joshua Reeve, 450 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 8: a twenty four year old spring breaker from the US. 451 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 2: Okay, guys, you are seeing more from our friends at 452 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 2: SI N. Take a look at this. 453 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 1: Now we are seeing the two of them walking. 454 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 2: Ok Now, I understand that this is after There they are, Yes, 455 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: there they are, and that is consistent with what he 456 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 2: was wearing when he was vomiting. Remember in that video 457 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 2: you see the white sneakers, the white sox, the shorts, 458 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 2: and the backpack. That's why we believe that was him 459 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 2: vomiting at a trash can outside. Now you've got another view. 460 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 2: This is for our friends at SIN surveillance video. 461 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 1: Catch there. You see the group, they're all walking to 462 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:08,119 Speaker 1: the beach, arm in arm there you go. Now what 463 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: happened after that? 464 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 2: To doctor Chloe Carmichael, joining US clinical psychologist and author 465 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 2: of Nervous Energy Harness, The Pair of Your Anxiety and 466 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 2: you can find her on Twitter at doctor Chloe, Doctor Chloe. 467 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: As Sheriff Mike Chapman was saying earlier, it feels like 468 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: the US, and that gives you the. 469 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 2: Suggestion of safety that you understand what's around you, that 470 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: you understand what's happening. 471 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: Typically, you go into. 472 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 2: A bar and you're dancing and have a good time 473 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 2: with your friends. In the US, it's unlikely it happens, 474 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 2: but it's unlikely you're going to get drug to start 475 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: throwing up. It's unlikely you're going to be separated from 476 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 2: your friends. It can happen, but you're functioning. Maybe it's 477 00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:58,719 Speaker 2: because you're on vacation. 478 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what it is. Your defenses are down 479 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: and you're functioning in a bubble. 480 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,920 Speaker 12: Explain that, Yeah, Nancy, I agree, there's something really strange. 481 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 12: You know, even for spring break, it's definitely noteworthy that 482 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 12: they're sitting there at a bar with their friends, everyone's 483 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 12: dressed up, looking nice, and then they're literally sitting there puking, 484 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 12: but they don't even seem bothered by it. It really 485 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 12: does point to a serious possibility of, you know, maybe 486 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 12: taking ecstasy or drugs where you kind of expect to 487 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 12: throw up before you then start to feel good. 488 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 13: And it makes me wonder. Since that young man pictured 489 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 13: obviously appears to be a wrestler, I wonder if he's 490 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 13: on a wrestling scholarship. I wonder if that's holding him 491 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 13: back from coming forward and saying, yeah, I was taking 492 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,600 Speaker 13: illegal drugs and there was you know, I didn't intend 493 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 13: to hurt her, but you know, something went wrong with 494 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 13: the drugs, and maybe he's concerned about losing his scholarship. 495 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 13: I'm not sure because she doesn't fit the profile of 496 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 13: a serious risk seeker, right. You know, she's very organized, 497 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 13: she's in a pre med program. She's only there on 498 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 13: a vacation, so something about it definitely seems strange. I 499 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 13: would also be curious since he says that he went 500 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 13: and fell asleep in a chair. That doesn't sound like 501 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 13: somebody who's guilty and trying to evade the scene of 502 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 13: a crime. We have a lot of video of him 503 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 13: before the incident. I'm curious about the first time that 504 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 13: he appears on video after the disappearance. 505 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: I agree with you. Now this is what he says happens. Listen. 506 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 8: After the night on the beach, Kanaki's friends go on 507 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 8: an excursion that Kanaki had not signed up for so 508 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 8: they don't miss her. As they head out at eight 509 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 8: fifty five am, Joshua Reebe returns to his hotel room alone, 510 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 8: without his shoes or a shirt. It's only after Sadisha's 511 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 8: friends return that afternoon they realized they don't know where 512 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 8: Sidisha is. Tracking down Joshua Reebe, he says he passed 513 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 8: out on the beach and when he awoke, he was 514 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 8: alone and went to his hotel room, assuming Kanaki had 515 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 8: already done the same. Bye, it's been twelve hours since 516 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 8: she was last seen. 517 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to look at the video again. But 518 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: to Eric Fattus, what about a cell phone? 519 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,800 Speaker 9: The cell phone is always a critical piece of evidence 520 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 9: in a case like this. 521 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: It needs to be looked into a little more further. 522 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 9: I think when you look at that video that we 523 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 9: just saw of the two walking near the hotel at night, 524 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 9: really has what appears to be a cell phone in 525 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 9: his hand, sort of documenting what's going on. Common sense 526 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 9: would tell us that that could be his cell phone. 527 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 9: But later in some reports I've read, he tells police 528 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 9: that after he's at the beach, he goes back to 529 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 9: his own room to get his cell phone. 530 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: So when did he drop it off? 531 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 9: Is there some sort of evidence of that, Did someone 532 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 9: go with him? Is there a witness statement to corroborate that. 533 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 9: What is going on with the cell phone and what 534 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 9: might it show about what happened? 535 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 2: We're learning, good point, Eric Fattus. We're learning more about 536 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: the timeline now, the vomiting. The vomiting video. 537 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, there it is. There's what believe is his. 538 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 2: Cell phone, you're right, Eric, And it looks like he's 539 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 2: videoing a selfie video. 540 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: You're right? 541 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 2: Is that his? 542 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: Or is that hers? And has her cell. 543 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 2: Phone been found? The vomiting incident is around four five am. Okay, 544 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 2: now listen to this. 545 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 14: CCTV helps start a timeline for Joshua Rebe starting around 546 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 14: four am when he is seen with his arm draped 547 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 14: around Sudeitsha Kanonkey as they are headed to the beach 548 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 14: at the resort. Joshua Rebe is spotted on CCTV walking 549 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 14: back alone from the beach at eight fifty five am. 550 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 14: Suditsha is not seen on CCTV. 551 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: Returning from the beach. 552 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: So we've got four five they're throwing up and walking 553 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: toward the beach. And now look at this shot. This 554 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: is the shot we're talking about eight fifty five Between 555 00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 2: four five am and eight fifty five am, this happens, Okay, 556 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 2: Sheriff Mike Chapman way in, Well, I can. 557 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 6: Tell you you know, we're we are looking at the phones, 558 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 6: we have the numbers. There's there is work that's being 559 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 6: done on that. I can't really go into the detail 560 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 6: on that. We do have some extensive investigation that's being 561 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 6: done on that, and that's going to take a little 562 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 6: a little bit of time to get that information back. 563 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 6: But it's not it's not anything that's been an oversight 564 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 6: on the investigator's part. We are again working with the FBI, 565 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,160 Speaker 6: working with our counterparts and trying to do the best 566 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,959 Speaker 6: we can to get as much information as we can 567 00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 6: with regards to the phones. 568 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 2: When you say, as much information as you can regarding 569 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 2: the phones, Sheriff Chapman, have they found both of their phones? 570 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 6: Again, I can't really get into that. What I can 571 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 6: tell you is that we do have the numbers of 572 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,959 Speaker 6: I believe everybody who is down there involved, and there 573 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 6: is there is some technical work that's being done on that. 574 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 4: But again that's you know. 575 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 6: It's part of the ongoing investigation and really they can't 576 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 6: really discuss that a whole lot more. 577 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 2: After careful analysis, there's not that much difference in what 578 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 2: he's saying in his multiple versions. Also, according to a 579 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: Kananki family friend, he was very helpful. 580 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: Listen to what they told our friends at ABC. 581 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 15: We walked to the beach along with the boy, and 582 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 15: the boy helped us, and he was annoying us, kind 583 00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 15: of like what really happened and where he was? 584 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: Our friends at ABC Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 585 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 2: Joshua Reebe, the Iowa high school wrestling star, is home 586 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: back on US soil after a Dominican Republic judge officially 587 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 2: clears him. It was a nightmare for both Reebe's family 588 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 2: and the family of a gorgeous young University pit student, 589 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,080 Speaker 2: Sudiksha Kananki. 590 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 11: The investigation intensifies for missing twenty year old Pittsburgh student 591 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 11: Sudiitsha Kanonky. 592 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 1: The last see him on the beach well on a 593 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 1: spring break trip with friends. Where is Sudiksha? How is it? 594 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 2: She goes out to the beach, she is kissing a 595 00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: guy and about waste deep water, and suddenly she's washed 596 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 2: out to see. 597 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: Rebe the well. It's a so called person of interest. 598 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 2: But now we're learning that dr is backtracking saying he's 599 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: not really a person of interest. 600 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: He's a witness. 601 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 2: Now I find that really interesting that they're holding him there. 602 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 2: He can't believe they've got his passport yet. He's just 603 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 2: a witness. Let me ask you about that, or Brant. 604 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 2: Now I am transposing the US justice system onto the 605 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 2: dr which was anything but true. But you have to 606 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 2: be a POI or a suspect or be named a 607 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 2: material witness by a court before you can have your 608 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 2: passport taken, seized and forced to stay there. 609 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: At least that's a law in the US. What's happening, Well, 610 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 1: it's exactly what you said, Nancy. 611 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 16: We view these things as we would view them in 612 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 16: the US, which once you leave the US, it's completely different. 613 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,799 Speaker 1: Their country, their rules, and not in a good way 614 00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 1: or not in a good way. 615 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 16: No, I no, I agree in most cases, Nancy, I 616 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,839 Speaker 16: worked extensively outside of the country and it's very frustrating. 617 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 16: But each country has their own way of doing things. 618 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 16: And if they take his passport, then they take his 619 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 16: passport and he can leave until they tell him he 620 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 16: can leave. 621 00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 2: I've never accused you of putting perfume on the pig, 622 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 2: but I guess I'll have to do it for the 623 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,480 Speaker 2: first time right now or brand. Every country has their 624 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 2: own way of doing things, you mean, their own way 625 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 2: of botching up an investigation. Wouldn't that be a little 626 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,640 Speaker 2: more accurate, just like Innaruba. 627 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 1: Yes, that would be more accurate. 628 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 16: Nancy, I'm being far too nice. 629 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know why, because every hour counts. 630 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,759 Speaker 2: If she is still alive and there is that possibility 631 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,760 Speaker 2: anything could have happened to her, every hour counts. 632 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 1: And while we are. 633 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 2: Tiptoeing around the fact that the DR is screwing this up, 634 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: that's one more hour lost Earth, one more hour, Thank Heaven, Chapman, 635 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 2: send his people down in the FBI are involved. 636 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Joe Scott helped me out. Am I just 637 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 1: screaming down the window going down Third Avenue. 638 00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 2: Every hour counts here, and we can't really on the 639 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,280 Speaker 2: DR to do anything. 640 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 4: One of the. 641 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:06,279 Speaker 10: Biggest concerns for me, Nancy, is the idea that this 642 00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 10: is not like a broad spectrum approach relative to an investigation. 643 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 10: If they're only focused on this one kid here, this 644 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 10: one guy they that she was last seen with, you're 645 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 10: going to miss other things along the way. I have 646 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 10: a real issue with both of these, both of these 647 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 10: individuals almost throwing up simultaneously at that bar. I want 648 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 10: to know if there's any other kind of illness that 649 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 10: could be associated there on there, and I want to 650 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 10: know if anybody's been following this. 651 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:41,279 Speaker 2: J Scott, do you recall the extensive investigation we did 652 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 2: into alcohol poisoning at these all inclusive result resorts that 653 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 2: have ended in the deaths of several Americans. You go 654 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 2: to a bar, you have something to drink. Is bootleg 655 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,200 Speaker 2: whiskey put in a US bottle? Okay, it might say 656 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,720 Speaker 2: Seagrams or something else on the front, but you're getting 657 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 2: some hooch made of somebody's garage. 658 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: Okay, No, look that's happening. 659 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,120 Speaker 10: Dave and I just covered cases out of Southeast Asia 660 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 10: involved in methanol, and they're a huge group of these 661 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,399 Speaker 10: cases that have happened in Turkey as well, Nancy. Where 662 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 10: you're not using ethanol, which is what we consume alcohol wise, 663 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:27,480 Speaker 10: they make bootleg hooch or bathtub gin out of methanol, 664 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 10: which is very, very dangerous stuff. I want to know 665 00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 10: if there's any other instances down in the dr at 666 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 10: this specific resort that have led and it can lead 667 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 10: to things like blindness, nausea, and ultimately death. I want 668 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 10: to know if anybody else was presenting that way that night. 669 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 10: That's what I mean by broad spectrum here. You can't 670 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,440 Speaker 10: just narrow your focus down to this one event. We 671 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 10: want to know what else was going on around them 672 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 10: that night, and again, this could be a PR nightmare 673 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 10: for the dr if there is any kind of problem 674 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 10: with an alcohol down like it was. 675 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,760 Speaker 2: A PR nightmare for Aruba and Natalie went missing, tourism 676 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,480 Speaker 2: from the US skyrocketed. 677 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so when you don't know a horse, look at 678 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: the track. 679 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 2: Record, when you don't know what's gonna happen, look at 680 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 2: what already did happen. 681 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: But I agree with you, Joe Scott. We can't get 682 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: total vision on Rebe. Now. 683 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:22,239 Speaker 2: Yes, I've got a problem with him. Of course I've 684 00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 2: got a problem with him. He's the last one with 685 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 2: a girl in All I've got is a flip flop 686 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: and a sarong. He's the last one with her, and 687 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:35,040 Speaker 2: his story is all over the map, not necessarily consistent though, 688 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 2: So yes, I'm looking at him, but total vision is 689 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 2: not going to help find her. 690 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,720 Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, this is what people 691 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: that know Rebee have to say. Josh was just so polite. 692 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,840 Speaker 1: He was a good teenmate in sports, and he was 693 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: part of the boy scout troop. 694 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,960 Speaker 5: Never heard of girl you No, I don't know what happened, 695 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 5: but there's no way he would have intentionally been aren't 696 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 5: in any scheme to do something to her. 697 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:07,360 Speaker 1: From our friends at GMA, authorities are looking at on 698 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,239 Speaker 1: Iowa Man believed to be the. 699 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:14,120 Speaker 11: Last person to see missing University of Pittsburgh students Tuditcha Kanunki. 700 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: Also under the microscope. Two THENMO payments. 701 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 2: One we don't know exactly what it is, but Sudiksha 702 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 2: put an emoji of a sailboat beside the VENMO payment, 703 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 2: you know, you can put a little message in there. 704 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 2: And the other one is to replaced Coco Bongo to 705 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 2: Emily Layman joining us from past dot Com, explained to 706 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 2: me about the two venmos and where they fit into 707 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 2: the timeline. 708 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 5: They've fit in the timeline because those are the last 709 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 5: VENMO transactions that she had, and these are you know, 710 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,440 Speaker 5: you think, payments that she would send between friends for 711 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 5: the activities that they were doing when they were on 712 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 5: their spring break trip. But one of them, of course, 713 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 5: you don't really know much about because all it has 714 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 5: is a sailboat emoji, and we don't really know much 715 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 5: information about who that went to. And then the other one, 716 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 5: of course, you know, I went to who was confirmed 717 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 5: to be a friend with her on the trip. But 718 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,840 Speaker 5: we don't know who else was at that nightclub. 719 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 2: The thinking is the sailboat emerging emoji indicates it could 720 00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:27,840 Speaker 2: have been an excursion. And like doctor Chloe Carmichael was 721 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 2: telling us earlier, you kind of suspend your reality. You're 722 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 2: functioning under the illusion that you're safe. You meet a 723 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 2: guy and you immediately go for a walk on the 724 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 2: beach and go out in the water with him alone. 725 00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: Why why? 726 00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 2: Of course she's young, But it's happened before, and not 727 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,280 Speaker 2: just with Natalie Holloway. 728 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 17: Robin Gardner needed a get away. Gardner had met Gary 729 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,640 Speaker 17: Giordano on match dot Com a year before. Friends say 730 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 17: the two weren't super close and had a platonic relationship, 731 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 17: but stating contact via email. When the invitation came, Robin 732 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,280 Speaker 17: said yes, and the pair arrived in Aruba July thirty. 733 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:09,279 Speaker 15: First, I was told that she was lost at sea, 734 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 15: and I just found that very surprising because I know 735 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,919 Speaker 15: that she really doesn't swim or get into the water 736 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 15: because she has extensions and her. 737 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,960 Speaker 4: Makeup and got all gold up, and she. 738 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,480 Speaker 15: Just didn't want to ruin that. 739 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 2: And that was Robin's sister talking to me, and apparently 740 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 2: with Robin Gardner's case, she just washed out to see okay, 741 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 2: although she would never have gotten in the water after 742 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 2: just having. 743 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,319 Speaker 1: Her hair done. And there's more. What about Wesley Bell? 744 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,360 Speaker 8: Ex's native Wesley Bell is in the Bahamas attending a 745 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,040 Speaker 8: yoga retreat on Paradise Island in NASA. The Seven Andra 746 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 8: Ashram Yoga Retreat, Bahamas featured in The New York Times 747 00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:58,280 Speaker 8: Gwyneth Paltrow's Goop and huff Post as a top travel destination. 748 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 8: Danielle Ward Packard, who was at the retreat at the 749 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,720 Speaker 8: same time as Belle, says he walked off by himself 750 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 8: to snorkel one day and never returned. Searches are conducted, 751 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:11,120 Speaker 8: but Belle has never found and Taylor Casey. Taylor Casey 752 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 8: goes missing from the same Behavian retreat. Casey disappears about 753 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 8: halfway through getting a yoga instructor's certification at seven Hundron 754 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,320 Speaker 8: Ashron Yoga. Last scene at the Ashram, She's reported missing 755 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 8: after failing to show up for morning classes. Police find 756 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,000 Speaker 8: her phone in the water days later, but haven't been 757 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 8: able to access its contents, and she remains missing. 758 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 2: To Sheriff Mike Chapman, how is it people just walk 759 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 2: out in the water and they're never seen again according 760 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 2: to reports. 761 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: Don't you find that disturbing, Sheriff, of. 762 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,799 Speaker 6: Course, I mean if that was the case in this case, 763 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, you certainly would hope for a recovery, 764 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 6: a quick recovery, but that hasn't happened. So that's why 765 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,440 Speaker 6: we can't really jump on of conclusions just jamp but yeah, 766 00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,680 Speaker 6: it's a shame, but it does happened. 767 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 4: From time to time. 768 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:09,720 Speaker 2: Joshua Reebe is home on us soil after much drama, 769 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 2: much fear, much suffering on the part of his family 770 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 2: in Dominican Republic. They flew there to bring their son home. Sadly, 771 00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 2: Sudicia Konaki's family may never bring their daughter home. While 772 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 2: we send our prayers to Sudha's family, we are relieved, 773 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 2: along with Reebe's family, that their son is home. 774 00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:38,719 Speaker 1: Goodbye friend.