1 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the forty Niners You've Got Male podcast 2 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: sponsored by Manscape. This week, we are joined by someone 3 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: who I like to say has a pretty good pulse 4 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: on the San Francisco forty Niners, and not just from 5 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: a surface level, and I'm gonna tell the story in 6 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of why it's not that, but has 7 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: a pretty deep grasp on the forty Niners and kind 8 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: of the numbers and the analytics that really tell the 9 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,879 Speaker 1: story that maybe not everybody could see from just watching 10 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: the game. But I say all of this to welcome 11 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: David Lombardi from the Athletics joining us on the pod. David, Um, 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: before we start, I want to know how is your 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: blood pressure doing, because after Sunday's game, it took a 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: while for me just to kind of catch my breath 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: after that overtime win in Cincinnati. You know, the final 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: drive of that game evoked a lot of the same 17 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: emotions because I just love football, I and I love 18 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: when games get dramatic. I love when those you know, 19 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: the narratives are determined, you know, towards the end of games. 20 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: That's what the NFL is all about. It's about crunch time. 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: So that final drive. I I felt a lot of 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: the same things that I felt during the final drive 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 1: in week seventeen at Seattle in the forty we're on defense. Yeah, 24 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: and this game was not nearly as big from a 25 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: playoff implication standpoint. I'm not gonna, you know, sit here 26 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: and pretend that it was. I'm just telling you how 27 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: I felt watching that game, because the ebbs and flows 28 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: of that game, right, and uh yeah, I was sitting 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: there watching and I'm like, you know, I feel the 30 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: same way as I did in that Seattle game, and 31 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 1: I feel the same type of intensity coming from this field. 32 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: And this time it was the forty Niners offense that 33 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: had to finish the game, and and obviously they finished 34 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: it in in very successful fashion. Um, is a football 35 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: fan that you are. You enjoy these moments, and you 36 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: say that's what football is all about. But I'm gonna 37 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: tell you, and I'm gonna be very honest and candid, 38 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: I hate moments like that. My anxiety is not built 39 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: for moments like that. UM. I can't tell you how 40 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: many words that would have to be bleeped out came 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: out watching that game, but forty Niners ultimately pulled out 42 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: that overtime when um, I feel like you have at 43 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: some point in that game. You have to credit all 44 00:02:30,520 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: three phases of that getting special teams, defense stepping up 45 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: when they needed to, and then ultimately looking at that 46 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: offense being able, uh to take that drive down the 47 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: field and finish it off with that Brandon I touchdown. 48 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: But um, looking at that game, what's your biggest takeaways 49 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: from the forty Niners performance? Did you learn something new 50 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: about the team? Was anything reaffirmed for you? What did 51 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: you take away? Well, the forty Niners all season, they've 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: been puzzling to people because their record has been mediocre. Right, 53 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: it hasn't been great at any point of this season, 54 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: but their efficiency numbers have actually been good. So the 55 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: common consensus among analytics people and then you know people 56 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: that you know only watched the tape to they they 57 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: see a lot of talent on this forty owners team, 58 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: but the record hasn't quiet matched up, and the main 59 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: reason has been because they've blown two games due to 60 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: atrocious special teams performances, both against the Seahawks. So entering Cincinnati, UM, 61 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 1: you know, when the forty Hours were six and six, 62 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: they would have been eight and four with decent special 63 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: teams play in both games against the Seahawks. That that 64 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: was one of the differences there. And the other, you know, 65 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: gap that the forty owners had really struggled to bridge 66 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: was the fact that they hadn't really won a game 67 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: in the true clutch at the end. You look at 68 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: the Packers game that they blew at the very end, 69 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: and you could also look at the Seahawks game from 70 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: week thirteen that they weren't able to execute their at 71 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: the goal line at the very end. I guess Minnesota 72 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 1: was a close game, but that that wasn't really a 73 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 1: clutch final two minute finisher in that game, right, So 74 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: that was standing in the way of the forty niners. 75 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: You know, being a good team analytically and being a 76 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: good team when it came to the actual win loss column. 77 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: And you better be a good team when it comes 78 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: to the actual win loss column or nobody cares what 79 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: the analytics say. So against Cincinnati, they finally got it 80 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: done in crunch time. They got it done when push 81 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 1: came to shove, and I'm talking all three phases right 82 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: in in overtime when all the chips were on the table. 83 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: Look look and see what happened. First, Well, it's not 84 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: discount special teams. Mitch wisch Nowski had been struggling to 85 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: kick the ball through the end zone, even struggling to 86 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: deliver touchbacks, and that had hurt the forty Niners. Well, 87 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: he overtime kicked it through the end zone. That was 88 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: touchback that helped the forty Niners. They also didn't fumble 89 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: away the ensuing kickoff after Cincinnati kicked the field goal, right, 90 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 1: So I mean, maybe I'm giving them too much credit, 91 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: but that was stuff. That basic stuff wasn't happening the 92 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: week before in Seattle during that loss, So they got 93 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: that done in crunch time. Then the defense, even though 94 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: it was exhausted, even though at that point of the 95 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: game it was overmatched against Joe Burrow and company, the 96 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: defense found a way to bend but not break. And 97 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: you have to give Damiko Ryan's a ton of credit 98 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: for calling that blitz with Kawan Williams on third down 99 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: and three, and that blitzed made c j Uzoma pick 100 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: up Kawan Williams and opened up a one on one 101 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: for Nick Bosa against Isaiah Prince against right tackle, and 102 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 1: that turned into a sack that saved the game and 103 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 1: then everybody knows what happened after that. Jimmy Garoppolo led 104 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: the team down the field six passes. Uh, they're all perfect, 105 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: and the forty Niners scored of Brandon Aiyuk and they 106 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,960 Speaker 1: walked it off. So that's special teams, defense, offense, all 107 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: really delivering. They're parts of what the Fortys formula to 108 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: win needs to be. Not only did they deliver it, 109 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: they delivered it in crunch time. And that's what I 110 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 1: learned from this game that this forty Niners team can 111 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: do that because I wasn't sure, you know, through thirteen weeks, 112 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure this was a team that had talent 113 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: that was capable, but they couldn't ram it through. They 114 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 1: couldn't really deliver that finishing punch when it actually mattered. 115 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: But in on the road against the good team in 116 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: some pretty cold weather in Cincinnati, Uh, you know, there's 117 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: nothing better than December football if you're a fan of 118 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: the forty Owners, or if you follow four owners, meaningful 119 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: December football. In those conditions, they got it done. And 120 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 1: that's my takeaway from this game because now they have 121 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: that belief behind them moving forward. Yeah. Absolutely, and it's 122 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: a fantastic point that you make, because when you look 123 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: at some of these games and you didn't really see 124 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: the forty Niners and these close matchups. I'm not talking 125 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: about a Jacksonville game or anything like that, but in 126 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: these close matchups being able to grind out that victory 127 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: the way they did. But let's talk about that. I 128 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,599 Speaker 1: want to dig just a little bit deeper in there 129 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: and talk about this team that I believe at one 130 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: point my math might be wrong, I can't remember, but 131 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: I believe at some point they did have a seventeen 132 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: point lead. They had a pretty sufficient lead over Cincinnati. 133 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm probably they were up by fourteen the start of 134 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. So a fourteen point lead, you're up 135 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: to scores? You what, Cincinnati creep back. Let's play a 136 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: little game of you know, overreaction or under reaction. Is 137 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: it alarming? Is it overreaction or are we under reaction 138 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: here that the forty Niners allowed this Bengals team, which 139 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: you said it, this is a pretty good Bengals team, 140 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: but letting them come back two scores and forcing you 141 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: into overtime, Well, here's how I opened my post game article, 142 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: and I think this answers the question. My first line was, yes, 143 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: the forty Niners were absolutely guilty of procrastination. They lad 144 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: the Bengals six and the fourth quarter, then their offense 145 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: was unable to salt the game away, their defense seemed 146 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: to run out of gas, and their kicker failed them 147 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: at the final gun. All three of those things had 148 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: to fail for this game to go to overtime. So yes, 149 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: that this was a game where the forty Niners did 150 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: some bad stuff. I mean, you have a two touchdown 151 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 1: lead on the road. There are many ways is that 152 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: you can ice that game and make sure there's not overtime. 153 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: And it required failures in all three phases of the game, 154 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: all the way down to Robbie Gold's miss kick at 155 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,800 Speaker 1: the gun to allow that to go into overtime. So 156 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: uh yeah, you leave that game as the forty Niners 157 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,520 Speaker 1: thinking and realizing that point, what, we've got to get 158 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: better at some of this stuff if we want to 159 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: go to to where our goals are. But you also 160 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: get to work on that kind of stuff after securing 161 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: a clutch win. And I'll tell you what, it's a 162 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: lot easier to build that emotional momentum to make those 163 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: corrections when you are coming off the exhilaration of victory 164 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: and the competence that comes with the exhilaration of overtime victory. 165 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 1: Then if you were sulking after a gut punch of 166 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 1: a loss, so um, nothing is perfect after that win, 167 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: but the ending was perfect. So something is I guess 168 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: something technically was perfect and that was the ending, and 169 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,079 Speaker 1: you take that good and you build on it to 170 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: to address the bad. If you're the forty Niners, and 171 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Um, everybody in the league has 172 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 1: flaws this year. That that's the important you know, that's 173 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: the important perspective to have here. So uh, that's why 174 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: you don't nitpick these kind of wins. You you you're 175 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: happy that you got him and then and then of course, yeah, 176 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: you evaluate the negatives, but you also realize that it's 177 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: not easy to win this league, especially against good football teams. 178 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,079 Speaker 1: In Cincinnati, I mean, they came to that game of 179 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 1: the winning records, so I think that's a good team. 180 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: And I saw a good team. I saw an explosive 181 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: team that the forty Niners were able to win, and 182 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: you know, just get out of Dodge and it's onto 183 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: the next one. In Atlanta, I don't think is nearly 184 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: as good as the Bengals. We're gonna talk about this 185 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,199 Speaker 1: Atlanta matchup here shortly, but I want to go back, 186 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 1: not too far, but let's go back to this overtime. 187 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: Everybody kind of thinks of, you know, the heroes of 188 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: this game, and you think of George Kittle and some 189 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: of these clutch third down catches he came up with. 190 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: And you think of Brandon Au and that game winning 191 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: walk off win right there, our touchdown. But uh, one 192 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: person that a lot of people are failing to remember, 193 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: and you mentioned his numbers on that final drive, Jimmy Garoppolo, 194 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: absolutely perfect, six for six on all his throws, including 195 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: that throat at Brandon. I you, but I feel like 196 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: and I feel like this is fairly accurate. Nobody is 197 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: scrutinizing more obviously than Jimmy Garoppolo. And I know you 198 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: have been um, You've had some numbers to back up 199 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: kind of how you have seen how he has performed 200 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: so far this season. And a lot of people feel 201 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: some type of ways, some feel another. But what have 202 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: the numbers told you about Jimmy Garoppolo's efficiency this season 203 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: and his overall performance? Well, let's start with this. There 204 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: are a lot of people and this is natural, especially 205 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: in an emotional game like football, especially during a year 206 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: that's seeing a lot of chaos. Right, You've seen a 207 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: lot of back and forth play, let's just put it 208 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 1: that way, not only from teams, but specifically from their quarterbacks. 209 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: So a lot of people are prisoners of the moment 210 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: when it comes to evaluating quarterback play because that's the 211 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: most important position on the field. So if a quarterback 212 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: throws for three hundred yards no mistakes, his team wins. Uh, 213 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: he's the greatest player who's ever put on a uniform, right, 214 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: But the moment that he throws an interception or even 215 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: in completion, all of a sudden, he's trash. That's really 216 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: I think social media has also fostered that kind of 217 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: evaluation of quarterbacks, right, because people want to make one 218 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: throw mean more than it actually does, because you want 219 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: your tweet to go viral, you want people that like 220 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 1: what you put out there in a hundred forty characters. 221 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: So every single play is some kind of referendum on 222 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 1: a quarterback, and that creates this super toxic discourse that 223 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: just goes up and down, up and down and it's 224 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: it's this roller coaster that if you don't step back 225 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: and look at the big picture of how quarterback is 226 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: performing while realizing that he's gonna throw in in in completions, 227 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 1: he's gonna throw interceptions, he's gonna make mistakes, but he's 228 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 1: also gonna do good stuff. If you don't step back 229 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: and look at the totality of the whole picture, then 230 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna be on this roller coaster to nowhere forever 231 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: and you're never going to get the truth. So with 232 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 1: that being said, this is why we have analytics, so 233 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: we can't. You know, people have their biases entering things. 234 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:20,720 Speaker 1: They're gonna say, oh, he missed this read, he missed 235 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: this pass, and they'll show that clip on Twitter and 236 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: it's like, okay, great, but Tom Brady has misspasses too, 237 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 1: And I guarantee you tom Brady missed at least three 238 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: or four the other week. What makes Tom Brady great, 239 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: what's made him a legend, is that he's hit on 240 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: a much higher rate than the average quarterback over the 241 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 1: course of two decades. Right, So we we measure this 242 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 1: kind of stuff analytically because we could get a less biased, 243 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: more dispassionate views. So expected points per play per drop 244 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: back is is a good stat because it measures how 245 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: effective a quarterback is on every single down. And it 246 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: also takes into account well, if it's third and four 247 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: and the quarterback only completes a three yard pass, well, 248 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: that's a negative play. But if he completes a five 249 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: yard pass on third and on third and four, wild 250 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: that moves the chains. It's a positive play. Right. So, uh, 251 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 1: it's a very smart way of looking at quarterback efficiency. 252 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: And here's our quarterbacks this year rank in expected points 253 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: per play. I'll give you the top five over the 254 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: course of the whole season. Number one Aaron Rodgers. Number 255 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 1: two Matthew Stafford, number three, Tom Brady, number four, Kyler Murray, 256 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 1: number five Jimmy Garoppolo. Behind Garoppolo is Patrick Mahomes, justin 257 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: Herbert Cousins, Josh Allen, so he's right up there. Now 258 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: we can narrow the scope here a little bit too, 259 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: because we want to know how Garoppolo has been playing 260 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 1: more recently. And he was terrible obviously in that game 261 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: against Indianapolis a couple of months ago, but since that game, 262 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: since he went back home to Chicago, expected points per 263 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: play in the NFL number one, Jimmy Garoppolo, number two 264 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, number three Tom Brady, number four Kirk Cousins, 265 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: and number five Carson Wentz. Six is Mahomes. And that's 266 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: an objective way of looking at it. And you know, 267 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: some people, don't you know, would rather argue with emotions 268 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: than fact, and and well, this is all due to 269 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 1: the scheme or something like that. I don't care if 270 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: it's due to the scheme. I'm not here to give 271 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: you a top ten quarterback ranking as far as it's 272 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: the best quarterback. I'm here realizing that every single QB 273 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,800 Speaker 1: is in a strategic partnership with their play caller and 274 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: the rest of their offense, the other ten guys on 275 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: the field, and that partnership is has the singular goal 276 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: of making that offense and that team as efficient as possible. 277 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: So regardless of whether the coach gets some credit, the 278 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 1: quarterback gets some credit. I don't care everybody should get 279 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: credit that. That's a juvenile, stupid argument to try to 280 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: be singling different people out. It's can this entire operation 281 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: where the quarterback is obviously a super important piece, and 282 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: the coach is a super important piece and is supporting 283 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 1: cast like Jebo Samuel and George Kittle. Those are super 284 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: important pieces. Can this operation be efficient? And since week eight, 285 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo and the fort Owners operation has been the 286 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: most efficient in the NFL. So that those are the facts. 287 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you could get mad at people for portraying them, 288 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: and you could say, oh, he's overrated anyway, but that's 289 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: how the Ford Owners are playing. And if they continue 290 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: to play that way, if Garoppolo continues to deliver that way, 291 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 1: they're absolutely contenders. That that's all I could say, you know. 292 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: Um So, I hope that kind of helps, uh bring 293 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,040 Speaker 1: some perspective to the situation. Manscape is the official below 294 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: the waste grooming partner of the forty niners. Try manscaped 295 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: and get off and free shipping with code forty niners 296 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: at manscaped dot com. That's code forty niners for off 297 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: at manscape dot com. That is fantastic perspective. I was 298 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: gonna hold my story until later, but I feel like 299 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: I should tell it now. Um So, if you're not 300 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: already following David, you can follow him on Twitter at 301 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: Lombardi himself. And so when we're usually in postgame press conferences. 302 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: Is David came and sat next to me, and he 303 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: has all of these tabs open, and he's looking at 304 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: all of these like analytics, all these parts, all these numbers, 305 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: and I'm kind of like peeking over his shoulder, like 306 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: what does all of this mean? Because I feel like, 307 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 1: just to the naked eye and just to the everyday fan, 308 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 1: you're not really taking that into account. Just like how 309 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: you said, you know, you feel like social media has 310 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: had a heavy influence on the way people have their 311 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: opinions on, you know, a quarterback and his performance, his efficiency, 312 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: so on and so forth. But David is always I 313 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: feel like, taking it a step further and looking into 314 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: the numbers that actually matter, the numbers that really dictate 315 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: a person's performance. Um, And even though it was a 316 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: couple of games ago, and we're sitting there and uh, 317 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: we're at one of the guys are at the podium, 318 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: and Nick Bosa sits on the other side of David, 319 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: so it's myself, it's David and Nick Bosa, and Nick 320 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: even looks over David's shoulder and he's like asking questions 321 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: like what's this what does that mean? Is this like 322 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: the box score? Like and and David's like breaking down 323 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: to him what all of this stuff means. And so 324 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons why I felt like it 325 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: was really important one to have you on this podcast, 326 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: but two, I also wanted to ask you about Jimmy 327 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:17,440 Speaker 1: Garoppolo and because again he is one of the more 328 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: um polarizing rising It's absolutely polarizing. Yeah, I know, and 329 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: then and I get it. I mean because the four 330 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: Aners have Trey Lance on their team, and there was 331 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: a lot of it, let's just put an emotional, knee 332 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: jerk kind of reporting over the course of this off season. 333 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: They just wasn't rooted in what John Lynch and Kyle 334 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: Shanahan were saying about this team, about the quarterback and 335 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: their plans. So I think some people got different expectations, 336 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: but they've been I think clear about how they feel 337 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: about Jimmy Garoppolo and his role on this team throughout 338 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: and you could see why because he's their most efficient 339 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: option and he's they're running an efficient offense. This team 340 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: is what five and two over its last seven games 341 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: right now, so they finally have found their stride if 342 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: they can beat an inferior Atlanta team, and I think 343 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: it's clear that Atlanta's inferior. I'm not saying there's not 344 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: a chance that the Falcon's upset them. I mean that 345 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: could always happen. But the four owners hold, serve and 346 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: do what they're supposed to do. They'll be six out 347 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: of their last eight in the win column heading into 348 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: the final two games, So they're doing something right. And 349 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: I think that you know, everybody wanted to roast them 350 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: based based on one in completion at a time, right. 351 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: You know, everybody wanted to be so fixated on every 352 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: single mistake without acknowledging that football is this inherently chaotic 353 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 1: game of these you know, massive athletes running and smashing 354 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: each other's, small car accidents happening on the field. Of course, 355 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: there's gonna be mistakes, but the measure of success happens 356 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 1: over a longer stretch. As a reason why these teams 357 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: play seventeen games now in the regular season, and even 358 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: that doesn't crown a Super Bowl champion. You have to 359 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: be able to show that you can succeed and be 360 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: efficient over a longer stretch. And I'll tell you what 361 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: over this eight game stretch since they've started to figure 362 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: it out, Um, the forty Honors are playing well, and 363 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo especially, he's played well. I would say over 364 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: the seven game stretch. He's played well in six of 365 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: those seven games, with the exception being the loss in 366 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,480 Speaker 1: Seattle where the forty Niners really struggled. So all we 367 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 1: can do is sit back and see if it continues, 368 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: because if it does, the forty Niners will be in 369 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: a really good spot. I love that you brought up 370 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 1: a name that actually takes me to our first fan question, 371 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: Michael Stone from Illinois. UM, he's looking back at that 372 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: Seattle game that you were just talking about, and I 373 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: think in particular that last drive, that final driver, and 374 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,120 Speaker 1: the forty Niners could have ultimately um tied that game 375 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,920 Speaker 1: and potentially went for two points and one it. But 376 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 1: Michael Stone said, why wasn't Trey Lance used more in Seattle? 377 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: His skills as a running back could have helped on 378 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: the goal at the end of the game, and says 379 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: Seattle doesn't stop the run very well. UM. I think 380 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: listening to Kyle over these last few weeks, UM, he's 381 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: talked about how bringing in Tray kind of messes up 382 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: his groove and call plays and and the defense is 383 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: being able to be prepared for what Tray what have 384 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 1: having Trey on the field, what that could ultimately bring. 385 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: But what's your take on this Tray Lance situation? Will 386 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: the forty Niners fans will they see him anymore this season? 387 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,880 Speaker 1: How do you kind of see everything taking in shape? Well, 388 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: this has been interesting because Kyle Shanahan's plans have evolved 389 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: that you just alluded to it a little bit, but um, 390 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: there have been several twists and turns in the road 391 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,680 Speaker 1: that have led us to this current point where Garoppolo 392 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: is playing a hundred percent of the time and Trey 393 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: Lance is just holding the clipboard. And and it's because 394 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,159 Speaker 1: let's just rewind a bit for Downers draft Lance, but 395 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: they commit to keeping Garoppolo. Um that that was their 396 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: their plan the whole time to have these two quarterbacks 397 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: this season. Then as time goes on, Kyle Shanahan becomes 398 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: more and more familiar with what Trey Lance might be 399 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: able to do this season. And it only took him 400 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: what a seven or eight days into training camp to 401 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 1: say Trey is gonna play this year because he has 402 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: a skills that that can complement our offense. And I 403 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: mean the way that Kyle Shannon talked about it was 404 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,760 Speaker 1: was really interesting. Back then. He had these ambitious plans 405 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:12,120 Speaker 1: for you know, utilizing Trey lance In in certain down 406 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 1: and distant situations on the field to leverage his skill 407 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: set and to compliment Jimmy garoppolo skill set, almost like 408 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: you use a bigger back or a bigger receiver in 409 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: a certain situation, where you'd use a different quarterback in 410 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: a certain spot. And we saw the beginnings of that 411 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: plan on the field against the Raiders right in the preseason, 412 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 1: and then Shanahan did actually employed on the very first 413 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: drive of the regular season against Detroit, where Garoppolo led 414 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: the fort oannads down the field and then lanced through 415 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: the touchdown pass in the red zone. But what Shanahan 416 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: found over the course of the year is that because 417 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: the skill sets are so different, it's tough for him 418 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: to enter a rhythm as a play caller. So there 419 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,520 Speaker 1: better be a massive benefit whenever he completely changes gears 420 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: and brings lance In in a certain spot instead of 421 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. Okay, that that was all pretty expected, I think. 422 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: But the thing, here's here's the here's the big catch. 423 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: The forty ISLDS expected that massive benefit to come in 424 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: the red zone because in years prior they had not 425 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: been particularly efficient in the red zone. So that's where 426 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: all of Trey Lance's packages and everything came in the 427 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: red zone. Fast forward, but yeah, fast forward to to now, 428 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: or at least a couple of weeks ago, and and 429 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: now the Forts now are have converted seventy of the 430 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: red zone trips into touchdowns, which leads to the NFL 431 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: by a wide margin. Two weeks ago they lead the 432 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 1: NFL by an even bigger margin, and they had the 433 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: highest mark on record. They had converted of their red 434 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 1: zone trips into touchdowns. No team had ever done that before, 435 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: and that was primarily with Jimmy Garoppolo a quarterback. So 436 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: that that's the big twist, is that I don't think 437 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: that Shanahan expected them to be as efficient as they 438 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 1: were in the red zone under Garoppolo, and he thought 439 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: that it would be make perfect sense to plug Lance 440 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,159 Speaker 1: in there. But why would you, you know, mess with 441 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: something that was working so well, right, and even in Seattle, 442 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 1: they had been scoring in the red zone up until 443 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: that final drive. And let's be honest, um, it's really 444 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: hard to blame that final drive on Jimmy Garoppolo had 445 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: been perfect, led them down the whole field from their 446 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: own two and uh Carl's dunlap you know, back Tom 447 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: Compton into his lap and he batted to pass away. 448 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: It's not like Jimmy Garoppolo could have really done anything 449 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 1: different on that final play. And I don't think that 450 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: Trey Lance could have done anything really different. You know, 451 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: your offensive line has to protect you no matter what. 452 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,240 Speaker 1: So you can see how this progression has happened though, 453 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: And it's because of the red zone excellence of the 454 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: Fordinander's offense that Trey Lance I think kind of got 455 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: shut out of being part of Kyle Shanahan's plans. And 456 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: that's nothing against Trey Lance and that he had three 457 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,399 Speaker 1: eighteen pass attempts at the FCS level and college. This 458 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,679 Speaker 1: is always this was always going to be a project, right, 459 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 1: This was always going to be the soonest unless Garoppolo 460 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: got hurt kind of thing, and that's what it's turned 461 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 1: out to be. And unfortunately for Lance, or unfortunately, I 462 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe it's good for him, but unfortunately for 463 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,919 Speaker 1: fans who want to see Lance, um, it's just they 464 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: don't get that situational play because of other circumstances, and hey, 465 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: a lot of those are good for the forty Niners. 466 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: I don't think anybody on the forty owners is complaining 467 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: that they've been the most efficient team in the NFL 468 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: in the red zone under Jimmy Garoppolo. So with that, 469 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: which I think you make a fantastic point about, you know, 470 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: you would have thought because that was an area that 471 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 1: the forty nine, it was an area of improvement for 472 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:37,359 Speaker 1: the forty Niners their red zone efficiency, and with Jimmy, 473 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: they are leading the league once they make trips to 474 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: the red zone being able to find the end zone. 475 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: But do you think at some point, let's say, through 476 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: these four games, do you think it Kyle Shanahan sprinkles 477 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: him in a bit in a little and some sort 478 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 1: of fashion, or do you think if it ain't broke, 479 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 1: don't fix it. I can not expecting to see it. 480 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: And then Kyle even came out and said, you know, 481 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: I'm just not comfortable doing it, So my, you know, 482 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: my confidence in and that potentially happening has gone down. 483 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: But you know, I do think that Trey brings it 484 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 1: such an intriguing skill set I've been hoping to see 485 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 1: an alignment with both of them on the field at 486 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: the same time, and maybe Kyle's saving now or the 487 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: playoffs or something, you know, point where it really matters. 488 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: At this point, the Ford Owners are very likely to 489 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: make the playoffs unless something crazy happens and they get 490 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: desperate in the regular season. He probably doesn't even to 491 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,199 Speaker 1: show it right now, right so, you know, maybe when 492 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: the forty Owners are underdogs and a tough playoff road, 493 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: because that's what's ahead. They're not gonna win the division 494 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: right there, They're gonna have to go through that wild 495 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: card path on the road. There might be a time 496 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: when he needs to steal a few points, you know, 497 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: if you will, because the forty Owners aren't going to 498 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: be the dominant favorite that they were in the playoffs. 499 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 1: So maybe that's where you you save it for. But 500 00:25:56,440 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, Tray's talented. He can move, he can you 501 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,639 Speaker 1: can throw. Uh, he's he's just not polished in the 502 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: standard drop back passing game that requires thirty decisions from 503 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: the pocket per game, and that's what the Ford Owners 504 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: are getting him ready for. That's twenty again at the soonest. 505 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: But in the time being, you spent a lot to 506 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: get him. He's in uniform. Why not, you know, find 507 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: a way to mix it in. And it would be 508 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: hard for me to believe that the forty owners don't 509 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 1: you know, utilize that at least at least once here 510 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 1: moving forward, because I think they're gonna need it. The 511 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: margins are really really narrow this year. You know, they're 512 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: not going to blow the NFC out of the water, 513 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: but they have a chance, they really do. And why 514 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: not use such a talented player like Trey Lance on 515 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: that bench? Yeah, I feel like it's a benefit that 516 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: the forty Niners have that not many teams have. I know, 517 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: years prior you can talk about the Drew Brees Taysom 518 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: Hill a. Forty Niners do have that in their pocket. 519 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 1: I would love to see that, uh, some way, somehow 520 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan gets both of them on the field. I 521 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 1: might love my mind if that does happen. But all right, 522 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: let's put a Week four team behind us. Let's start 523 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: looking ahead. Got the Atlanta Falcons coming to town. This 524 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: is not the same Atlanta Falcons that we saw in 525 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: I feel like it was a completely different story at 526 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: that point. Forty is essentially they had their ticket stamps 527 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,479 Speaker 1: into the postseason. They just didn't know where they were 528 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: going to be. Atlanta was just playing spoiler. They had 529 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 1: Julio Jones, they had some of those weapons. They're not 530 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: going to have those same pieces. Um, it's not a 531 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 1: great team, but it's still a hungry team. They are 532 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: still in the mix this time around. What have you 533 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: seen out of Atlanta and what are you expecting going 534 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: into Sunday. It's weird, right, It's the opposite of what 535 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,560 Speaker 1: you'd expect, because I think this Atlanta team is far 536 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: worse than the team that beat the forty a couple 537 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: of years ago, even though that previous team was out 538 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: of contention. This current team is right in the thick 539 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: of it because they're six and seven. But the analytics 540 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: hate the Falcons this year. I mean they're literally Football 541 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: outsiders is d v o A, which is which is 542 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: a fairly predictive ranking of how teams are gonna do. 543 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: The Falcons are dead last, their number thirty two in 544 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: the whole league. At that six and seven record, They're 545 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 1: worse than Jacksonville. They're worse than the Jets. I don't 546 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,119 Speaker 1: know who else is a bad team. But but but 547 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: they're worse than them. Right. I don't generally pay attention 548 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: to the very bottom of the league, but you have 549 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: to pay attention to the Falcons because there's six and seven. 550 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,439 Speaker 1: And the reason there's that that those two things are 551 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: so disparate, it is because they've only won games by 552 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: a score or less, so they're They're six wins have 553 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,120 Speaker 1: all been close, and almost all of their seven losses 554 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: have been blowouts. They've just been destroyed in those seven losses. 555 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: And so you see what I'm getting at here is 556 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: that that they've been fortunate over the course of this year, 557 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: and the there's a reason why the forty Owners are 558 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: are heavily favored in this game. There's a reason why 559 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: the Falcons every time they played a semi decent team 560 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: have just been wiped out of the building. And I 561 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: think if the forty Niners are really who they think 562 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: that they can be, because I don't want to say 563 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: who they are yet because they still have some more 564 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: to prove, but if this is a true condemning for 565 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: the Owners team, this is a game that you deliver 566 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,720 Speaker 1: that knockout punch early, because I think that they're they're 567 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: that much better that than than this Falcons team, Matt 568 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: Ryan is on the down slope of his career. Both 569 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: of the off lines with the Falcons aren't good. No 570 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: more Julio for the owners. See him in in uh 571 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: Tennessee the week after that, but he's he's not on 572 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 1: the Falcons anymore. Um. Really, there isn't a lot of 573 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,000 Speaker 1: talent with this Atlanta team. So credit to them for 574 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: beating some of the worst teams on their schedule by 575 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: just a couple of points and probably looking into a 576 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: few breaks there and still being in contention right now. 577 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 1: But if we look at this a little bit closer, 578 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: this is one that the four owners absolutely have to 579 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: have because there's so much better than the Falcons on paper, 580 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: and there's so much better than the Texans on paper, 581 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: who they play in a couple of weeks after that. 582 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: So you gotta have the two gimmes. I consider this again. 583 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: I know they're are no gimmes, but good, good teams 584 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 1: with this much on the line would make this a gimme. 585 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: So let's see what the forty Niners bring on Sunday. 586 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: Forty Niners. I feel like this is a game that 587 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 1: you can't overlook. I don't want to call this a 588 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: trap game because forty Niners are significantly, significantly a better 589 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 1: team than what we've seen out of Atlanta this year. 590 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: But you recently tweeted um that the forty Niners playoff 591 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 1: chances would drop to thirty five percent. I think currently 592 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: right now they're about at seventies something mid seventies right now, 593 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: but it would drop to with a loss in Week fifteen, 594 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: and if they win, it jumps to Obviously that's a 595 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: massive drop off. But how much room for air? And 596 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,479 Speaker 1: we don't have to talk about just this Falcons game, 597 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: but we can look at these final four How much 598 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: room for air do you think this forty Niners team 599 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: has with all of these six and seven teams literally 600 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: knocking at their door? Yeah, I mean so, wouldn't be 601 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: the end of the world if they did lose from 602 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: a mathematical effective But even though that's a huge drop, 603 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: but thirty is still decent chance and they could probably 604 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: atone for that by beating Tennessee on Thursday. But obviously 605 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 1: it's gonna be tough because you gotta fly across country. Um. 606 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: The bottom line is that obviously you're trying to win 607 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: as many games as possible, so you have to take 608 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: care of the business. That's theoretically the easiest because the 609 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: road will get tougher at Tennessee and then on the 610 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: road against the Rams. So I think it's somewhere around 611 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: the thirty five percent chance they lose about a nine 612 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,479 Speaker 1: chance they win. This is based on the ESPN FPI numbers, 613 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: and Football Outsiders has their own numbers, but they're all similar. 614 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: And uh, if the forty niners, let's put it this way, 615 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: if they win three out of their final four games, 616 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: as I think is totally possible, that means you beat Atlanta, 617 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: you beat Houston, you split one of Tennessee and the Rams. 618 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: The four hours of over chance of making the playoffs 619 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: just anyway that you crunch the numbers right. If you 620 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: want all four, of course you're in. But if they 621 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 1: only went to I still think it's like it's it's 622 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: really high and I don't have a number for it. 623 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: But just win these ones that you're supposed to win 624 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: against the inferior teams and you're fine. But if you 625 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 1: start dropping at the games against inferior teams, you open 626 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: up the door for disaster. And that's really how I 627 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: look at the situation now. So Um, I just don't 628 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: see this being a trap game because the forty Honors 629 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,040 Speaker 1: should know what's at stake, right trap game happens when 630 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: you don't really realize what's at stake. But right now 631 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 1: that they have, their fate is in front of them, 632 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: and a good team handles business in this kind of situation. 633 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 1: So we've talked about both rosters essentially, But you've got 634 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. You said that you believe he's on kind 635 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: of like a downhill slope right now. But they still 636 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: have Kyle Pitts, who's really coming into his own as 637 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: the season progresses. Cordel Patterson, who you know when everyone 638 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 1: talks about Deebo Samue and you're trying to categorize what 639 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,560 Speaker 1: kind of player he is, Uh, people start to pinpoint Cordel. Um. 640 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: We talked about their defense sitting dead last in in 641 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: d v O A, But what do you see as 642 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: the keys to a forty Niners victory? Well, they have 643 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,880 Speaker 1: to imprint their brand of football and this is this 644 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: is a week the week thing. I think this fort 645 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: Enters team is talented enough to uh play with anybody 646 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL and and beat most of the teams 647 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL, but just by holding served with their 648 00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: brand of football. And that's that's ball control on offense 649 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: to fuel opportunism on defense right and sport enters defense. 650 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: You gotta give them credit. They've been getting better and 651 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: better and better. And part of the reason they have 652 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: been able to get better is because the offense has 653 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: generally been doing a good job with the ball control 654 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,160 Speaker 1: ever since that Week eight game against Chicago. So that's, 655 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: you know, Kyle Shanahan talks about it a lot, complimentary football. 656 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: Both phases feed each other. It's, you know, this symbiotic 657 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: relationship between offense and defense. And then you just have 658 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: to make sure that special teams doesn't go and bomb 659 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: everything away like they have a couple of times this year. 660 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 1: But it was Cincinnati's special teams that that we're the 661 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: underperformers in this past game. So the Fortenanders got that benefit. 662 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: And then even though they were shaky at times on 663 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,799 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball offense and defense, they were 664 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,880 Speaker 1: ultimately complimentary. So when you face the team like Atlanta, 665 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: you you have to just ensure that you keep the 666 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 1: line moving with that formula and you will see if 667 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: Elijah Mitchell comes back, um that I think I would 668 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: help the rushing attack because right now they're relying a 669 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: little too much I think on Deevo Samuel. But Jeff 670 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,800 Speaker 1: Wilson should be getting healthier every week. And that running 671 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: game is a backbone. That's the spine, you know, it's 672 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: a spine of this offense. And Jimmy grew up looking 673 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: throw at forty one times if he needs to, and 674 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: last week that's what the game plan dictated because the 675 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: running attack wasn't quite as efficient and Cincinnati was shutting 676 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: it down. I don't know what Atlanta is going to 677 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,840 Speaker 1: come out with schematically defensively, but if the forty Nanders 678 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,239 Speaker 1: can be balanced on offense, then they could defeat whatever 679 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: Atlanta throws at them. Because it's not a great defense though. 680 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: Pass if they have to pass, as in the run, 681 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: if they have to run, and if you do that 682 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: and you don't turn the ball over, then you set 683 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: your defense up to do its job and then then 684 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: you win. And here's the staff for you. Thet Ers 685 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: are twelve and one since when they don't turn the 686 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 1: ball over, and the one loss was the season open 687 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: against Arizona where they had a blocked punt. One of 688 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,439 Speaker 1: their punts was blocked, and that's essentially a turnover doesn't 689 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: technically count as one. So I would go out and 690 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: say the forty owners are are twelve and oh when 691 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: they don't turn the ball over since since they've had 692 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: a viable roster, would Jimmy Garoppolo healthy at quarterback? So, um, 693 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,319 Speaker 1: take that for what it's worth. But if they could 694 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: just execute, hold on to that football, hold serve with 695 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: ball control, that shows you this roster is good enough, 696 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: uh to win games on needing any extra help. Just 697 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 1: just don't cough it up on your own. 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Twelve and oh, when you are taking 706 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: care of a football, all right, David, Before I let 707 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: you go, I've got one last one for you, and 708 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: I think this is like one of the fun topics 709 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: that I think everybody's already looking towards. Yes, we're still 710 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: in December football, but it's so much more fun to 711 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: start looking at least peeking towards January. Um. Obviously, Monday night, 712 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how many people really expected, um the 713 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,200 Speaker 1: Cardinals to perform the way that they did, especially against 714 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: a shorthanded Rams team who ended up getting that win 715 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: gave themselves a little bit of breathing room with the 716 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 1: forty Niners eyeing that fitth seed. But it's still very early. 717 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 1: But let's just kind of take a look at what 718 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 1: the picture looks like as of right now, forty Niners 719 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: have to take care of business before anything, but looking 720 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 1: at this NFC picture, let's just looking at the teams, 721 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,960 Speaker 1: knowing who's gonna have home field advantage. This isn't you 722 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: know where the forty Niners are now? But what's your 723 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: dream wild card matchup that you think the forty Niners 724 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: could truly excel in? This is let's say they could 725 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: move from five to seven. What would you say, Well, 726 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: it looked way more possible before Monday night, but if 727 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: the Rams had lost, the four owners would only be 728 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: one game behind the Rams, with obviously a game still 729 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 1: remaining against the Rams to catch them in week eighteen, 730 00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: and that would have opened up the door to the 731 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: number five seed, which is as high as the Ford 732 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: Owners can realistically get. Right, they're mathematically still alive for 733 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,080 Speaker 1: the division, but it's not going to happen. I think 734 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: that Arizona even plays Detroits, they're gonna be Detroit right 735 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: that this weekend, and that that's going to close that door. 736 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: Ford owners can't get higher than the five seed. But 737 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:02,799 Speaker 1: if they hadn't been able to get to the five seed, 738 00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: which looks a whole lot less likely now with the 739 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: Rams winning, that would match the fourty owners up with 740 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: the four seed, which seems to be the seems that 741 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 1: it will be the Dallas Cowboys. And I think that 742 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 1: in general, when you go into January, you want to 743 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,719 Speaker 1: a uh face a team that you know you could 744 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: confidently say, you know, we could beat these guys. That's 745 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: what the four owners want to say, and be you 746 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 1: don't want to go to Green Bay because it's freezing 747 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: in January. Nobody wants to deal with that weather. You 748 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,359 Speaker 1: don't want to go to a bad weather place. If 749 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 1: you look at the NFC Playoff. Picture of the teams 750 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: that are gonna be potentially hosting the only truly bad 751 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: weather places Green Bay, right, Tampa Bay. That's that's decent weather. 752 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: Dallas inside l A is basically inside, even though they 753 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: were delayed due to lightning this year, which is which 754 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: is funny that they have a canopy. Right, they have 755 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,359 Speaker 1: a canopy and it's l A. So it's it's gonna 756 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: be decent weather. Um, but anyway, weather is only an 757 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: issue in Green Base. You don't want them. Um, I 758 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 1: don't think you want Tampa because I think they're they're 759 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: playing as the best team of football right now. Um, 760 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 1: balanced offense and defense, great offensive line. We know that 761 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: defensive line won the Super Bowl for him last year, 762 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: just terrorized Patrick Mahomes. So Tampa Bay, I just think 763 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: best case scenario if you're the four energy to stay 764 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: away from them and hope somebody upsets them. If not, 765 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: you get Garoppolo against Brady. That's fun, you know, Yeah, yeah, 766 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: I mean absolutely nobody would write anything about that. But um, so, 767 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: so that crosses Tampa Bay off the list, right, So 768 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: then the other division leader is Dallas and then the 769 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: other division leader Slash winner would be either Arizona or 770 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:42,919 Speaker 1: the Rams, right Um, so that five seed would play 771 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,279 Speaker 1: that four seed, which would probably be Dallas, but it's 772 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: not looking likely the four owners get up to the 773 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: number five anymore. So if the playoffs started today, the 774 00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,680 Speaker 1: forty would be the sixth seed and the Arizona Cardinals 775 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: have dropped to three. So it would be the forty 776 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: Niners against Arizona, which I think is super interesting, and 777 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: that would be another indoor game right in the desert, 778 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: and it would be a game that I think the 779 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,359 Speaker 1: forty Niners would take their chances in because I don't 780 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,839 Speaker 1: think Arizona. They might have peaked too early this year, 781 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:12,239 Speaker 1: right They were hot the big end of year, but 782 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,800 Speaker 1: it didn't really look like they're on their hot streak 783 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: right now. Um, So that that to me would be 784 00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: really interesting. If the forty Niners played the Cardinals in 785 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: the postseason, and I think that's a game they would 786 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: absolutely take. But I think they would prefer even more 787 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: than that, They'd prefer a Cowboys matchup. Um, But it's 788 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: a toss up in between those two. So between Cowboys 789 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: and Cardinals, your pick. What do you think is the 790 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 1: best matchup for the forty Niners. It's hard to beat 791 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: a team three times. It really is because schematically you 792 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: have you know, you know the other team inside and out, 793 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 1: and the you know, the forty Oers could probably find 794 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: a way. That's why these divisional games are always close, 795 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,719 Speaker 1: no matter what, right, because you have teams that are 796 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: just so familiar with each other that you know, even 797 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: if one team is significantly better than other, there's gonna 798 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: be a vulnerability. So for give me the forty Owns, 799 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: you say, give me Arizona for the third time, and 800 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: we'll find a way to Even if they might be 801 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: better than us this year, we could find a way 802 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: to beat them once because you know, we've already learned 803 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 1: two tough lessons against these guys. So I would think 804 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,320 Speaker 1: that Arizona game. Although I'm all for the renewal of 805 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: the forty Owners Cowboys rivalry, uh that my favorite piece 806 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: I ever wrote about for the Athletic has been, you know, 807 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 1: looking back at the epic four Owners Cowboys rivalry that 808 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: stretched from the seventies to the nineties, especially in the nineties, 809 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: it was awesome. It was the greatest football game of 810 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,280 Speaker 1: all time as far as talent level on the field, 811 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: was the January NFC Championship Game. We've never seen more 812 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,480 Speaker 1: Hall of famers, Pro Bowlers, all pros on the same 813 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,200 Speaker 1: field that Candlestick forty one. And it's tragic to me 814 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: that the forty Niners and Cowboys the last time that 815 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,399 Speaker 1: both of them qualified for the postseason in the same 816 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: year was I saw that stat That's wild when you 817 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: think about it. Yeah, so that needs to happen and 818 00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: they need to play again because that was what I 819 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,320 Speaker 1: grew up on as an NFL fan, was forty Niners 820 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: Cowboys in Yeah, David Lombardi is lobbying for a forty 821 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: Niners Cowboys renewed rivalry. I honestly, I agree. It's really 822 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: hard to beat a team three times in a season. Um, 823 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 1: forty Niners did beat a team twice Green Bay in 824 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 1: a season, but three times it's a little bit different. 825 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: And then also you look at the Cowboys and defensively 826 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,000 Speaker 1: they're playing really well. With their offense, I feel like 827 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: has kind of faltered over the last few weeks, not 828 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: really that offense that we thought they would be, especially 829 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: with those weapons considering dak Zeke and um uh Ceedee 830 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 1: Lamb and a Marii Cooper, So I think that could 831 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,719 Speaker 1: also be a very very fun matchup. And I want 832 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,479 Speaker 1: to circle back around really briefly. You talk about forty Niners, 833 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: is going to be an uphill battle for them to 834 00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: kind of grab that um fifth seed in the NFC. 835 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: But I've been looking at the rams upcoming schedule. They 836 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 1: have Seattle. You just spoke about how some of these 837 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 1: divisional matchups they're they're different schematically and you know, knowing 838 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: your opponent. They have Seattle in Week fifteen, followed by Minnesota, 839 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,680 Speaker 1: who's still in that fight trying to get to the postseason, 840 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: so they're kind of at that do or die moment, 841 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: so that could also be an uphill battle for them. 842 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: Then you're at you're on the road in Minnesota. You're 843 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,919 Speaker 1: on the road again in Baltimore, another team who's trying 844 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: to stay a top of their division. So they have 845 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: a tough slate wrapping it up with the forty Niners 846 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: Week eight team, which still sounds so bizarre to say, 847 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,760 Speaker 1: but um, that's that's four I think very tough games, 848 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: and if the forty Niners can come out strong in 849 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: this final four game stretch in the Rams somehow struggle 850 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: the forty Niners could find themselves, especially considering that tiebreaker 851 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: since the forty Niners beat them earlier in the season, 852 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: they could see them knocking on the door for that 853 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:58,120 Speaker 1: fifth seed. But nonetheless, David, I feel like we we've 854 00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,319 Speaker 1: touched on every single topic, on every single direction here 855 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: on this podcast. But I appreciate you so much for 856 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: stopping by and just dropping some some serious knowledge and insight, 857 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 1: uh that I think goes beyond just what the naked 858 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 1: eye can see. But we appreciate you, and we'll have 859 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,919 Speaker 1: to have you back to maybe knocking on someone. Maybe 860 00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 1: we can talk some January numbers if you're if you're 861 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,880 Speaker 1: picking up what I'm putting down. Oh yeah, that'd be 862 00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,440 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. Like I said, there's nothing better than, 863 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,960 Speaker 1: you know, following a team, covering a team that's in 864 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,720 Speaker 1: contention in December. It did this day and age in NFL. 865 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 1: You can't really ask for more because it's a tough league, 866 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 1: it really is, And when you're in contention of December, 867 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 1: when you're likely to make the playoffs, as the four 868 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,759 Speaker 1: Niners are now, it makes every game fun and and 869 00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,040 Speaker 1: that's all we can ask for as sports fans. Yeah. 870 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: Fun stressful, same thing like last week against the Bengals. David, 871 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: I appreciate you, thank you so much, and we'll catch 872 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: you at Levi's Stadium this Sunday. All right, sounds good. 873 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,920 Speaker 1: The shop don down to