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Speaker 2: I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Gamson, and this is the

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys for joining us today.

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Speaker 3: And uh yeah, we still haven't gotten too many.

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Speaker 2: New suggestions for how we are going to name this

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Speaker 2: podcast next year. And me and Ralph and our personal

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Speaker 3: He's headed to the Big twelve, I'm headed.

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Speaker 2: To the Big ten, and so and so we will

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Speaker 2: before we record from now on to hit you guys

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Speaker 2: you guys want addressed. All right, so let's start. We

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Speaker 2: had Week six in college football. It was exciting, it

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Speaker 2: was fun. We got some good matchups, and we got

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Speaker 2: a lot of drama which was absolutely incredible, per per

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Speaker 2: the usual. But I think we should start Ralph with

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Speaker 2: uh with what went on with USC, right because USC

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Speaker 2: in the ap pole, they are not getting the Alabama treatment.

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Speaker 2: They are not getting the love that Alabama's getting.

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Speaker 4: That is true. Alabama has three wins where they played

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Speaker 4: some defense and not a whole lot of offense against

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Speaker 4: teams that were marginal. I mean, oh, this is okay,

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Speaker 4: But you know, they haven't looked great that like three

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Speaker 4: pretty much every week to get to the to the

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Speaker 4: They didn't look good against Texas A and M Texas

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Speaker 4: and probably should have won that game. And you know,

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Speaker 4: have a loss, and they drop. Every time they win,

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Speaker 4: they drop. And you can say USC deserves to drop.

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Speaker 4: I think that that's completely valid, but Alabama's not. And

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Speaker 4: it feels like the same thing's happening with them.

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Speaker 2: Well, and to make it even worse than them not

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Speaker 2: dropping is for anybody that doesn't understand fully how the

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Speaker 2: And there were six or seven of them that put

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Speaker 2: Texas in front, sorry behind Alabama, and they whooped their

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Speaker 2: a case where you know, it's six seven weeks down

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Speaker 3: Make it make sense. Make it make sense because you can't.

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Speaker 2: And you guys can go on on my YouTube channel

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Speaker 2: because it is absolutely ridiculous. And USC fans and Pack

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Speaker 2: But after the Oregon Washington game this week, will they

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Speaker 2: And one of the things is that people consistently say,

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Speaker 2: Georgia shouldn't be number one and all these things that, well,

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Speaker 2: I love how people who want to defend the SEC

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Speaker 2: I love how they like to take credit for the

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Speaker 3: See, yeah, but it's still the SEC. Oh, that same SEC.

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Speaker 2: That's five and seven in non conference games against Power

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Speaker 3: That same SEC. Hmmm.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens after this week. But USC

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Speaker 2: be irritated. But we'll see what happens after this weekend.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of moved from that to USC and their defense,

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Speaker 2: right because they had a close game against Arizona ralph

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Speaker 2: And there are two major storylines coming out of this game.

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Speaker 3: The USC side.

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Speaker 2: The Lincoln Riley made a comment after the game that

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Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 4: They don't pay me to have thoughts on here. What

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Speaker 3: Well? Their damn defense?

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Speaker 2: Okay, on one hand, their defense did get the stop

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Speaker 3: Year me. Yes, yes, they did.

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Speaker 2: However, they wouldn't have been in that position if their

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, it's what This is a weird one

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Speaker 4: Right, But anybody who watched the game, you're seeing a

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Speaker 4: quarterback in his second ever start throw for five touchdowns. Yes,

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Speaker 4: four to one, four to one. Player. Yes, they had

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Speaker 4: seventeen missed tackles. One week after Lincoln Riley saying that

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Speaker 4: these tackles now, so they've improved. Well, Arizona's running back

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Speaker 2: And that's the thing is that they were pointing to

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Speaker 2: Oh it's amazing. Competition steps up a little bit. It's

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Speaker 4: I just need I just need the question answered. I

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Speaker 4: happening here? Just explain explain that to me. All I

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Speaker 2: That's a legitimate question, that is, and it's a very

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And it's not like you could be like, well,

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Speaker 2: And then the second story line out of this game

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Speaker 2: And the question is who's gonna start at quarterback? Is

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Speaker 3: And you have.

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Speaker 2: So many people including me, yelling at the yelling, screaming

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Speaker 4: So maybe maybe, maybe maybe we don't know. We we

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Speaker 4: just don't what. So what you're saying is from what

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Speaker 4: And he did have probably the dumbest turnover of the

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Speaker 2: Also his first start, and yes I am not as

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So then here's the question. Here's a question

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Speaker 4: in multiple settings, multiple situations. Jaden DeLaura at his best

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Speaker 4: So that's the question you have to ask yourself as

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Speaker 4: Are you gonna get Jade Dolaura's best in Washington at

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Speaker 3: Well, that's the question.

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Speaker 3: So do what you have to do to win now.

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Speaker 4: And he hates them, yeah, oh.

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Speaker 3: With the with a absolute passion, with a passion.

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Speaker 3: Excited got to go back to the scene of the crime.

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Speaker 2: Everybody likes to go tiptoe it. Hey we be at sea, well,

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 2: The University of Washington has a new athletic director who

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Speaker 2: the name Ralph?

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Speaker 4: Oh, they got the they got the dude from uh,

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Speaker 3: Now, so he is in Seattle, They're like, f Youboddy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they wiped that cleanon real quick.

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Speaker 2: So, and Tulane is they have built the football program

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Speaker 4: Football Okay, okay, yes they did, Yes they did. But

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Speaker 4: Under Troy Daanen's leadership, Tulane won a national championship in

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Speaker 3: Dude.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, hey, football's cool, but have you seen our bowling?

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Speaker 3: I so I understand.

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Speaker 2: Where Tulane wasn't gonna have, you know, a bunch of

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Speaker 2: It is very funny. But the football program is headed

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Speaker 3: I have not seen them in the tournament. So Chelsea, man,

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Speaker 4: Beach volleyball is gonna fall off at Tulane now that

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Speaker 3: Oh man, damn.

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Speaker 2: But you dub's athletic director and their president are having

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: We shall control all the money, we shall make all

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Speaker 2: And the PAC ten is like, yeah, I know that

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Speaker 4: And yeah, I don't get this. I don't understand why

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Speaker 2: Washington is finally on behalf of not just them. So

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Speaker 2: Washington filed a motion to dismiss the lawsuit because they

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Speaker 4: So right, So Dad is going out for a pack

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Speaker 2: No, No, he wants you to venmo him his check

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Speaker 2: that came in the mail.

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Speaker 3: That's what he wants you to do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, because his paycheck that he legitimately earned came in

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Speaker 3: He just wants you to venmo it to him.

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Speaker 4: That's it, all right, Pops. Well these bills got your

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: Who should we be rooting for here? I mean, like,

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Speaker 2: Harney's transition costs that somebody got to eat these transition costs.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, I don't care to be honest,

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Speaker 3: All twelve of these people.

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Speaker 4: Okay, there was a lot of now for self. There

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Speaker 3: Are you serious?

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Speaker 4: I thought that A J. Hawk was married to Brady

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Speaker 3: So oh so Brady Quinn.

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00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 4: Wasn't participating, but the rest of the crews out here

444
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 4: disin Pat McAfee waving old Crimson flags. I tweeted out

445
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,400
Speaker 4: the video of them waving the flags, and everybody spent

446
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 4: the whole day quote tweeting me saying, well, Fox is

447
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,399
Speaker 4: the one that killed the conference anyway, you know, So

448
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,920
Speaker 4: it's fun for them to be celebrating Washington State now

449
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 4: that they're the reason that Washington State's in this situation.

450
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 4: And I gotta say, blaming Fox is incredibly reductive, because, like, yeah,

451
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 4: Fox might have fired the bullet or one of the

452
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 4: bullets that killed the conference, but the conference was wandering

453
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:18,239
Speaker 4: around in a war zone, just filling taking photos, like

454
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 4: like the so many things went wrong to even be

455
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 4: in a position to get your teams poached, so many yep,

456
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 4: you never should have been in this position in the place.

457
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 4: And so it's like, yeah, Fox, Fox is the one

458
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 4: that did us in. It's like, oh, yeah, well that

459
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 4: that truck's the one that hit me when I ran

460
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 4: across the freeway without looking like I was still in

461
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 4: a position to get in trouble. And Fox is the

462
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 4: one that made sure in part that anybody who's trying

463
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 4: to assign assign a lion's share of blame to any

464
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 4: one entity in particular, is not going to be able

465
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,600
Speaker 4: to successfully do it because there are so many hands

466
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 4: in the cookie jar of like what led to this moment?

467
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 4: So many and I don't to me, it's not I

468
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 4: don't put all the blame on rupertoc, Fox Sports all that.

469
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 4: I don't. They did things work out exactly the way

470
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 4: they wanted And are we worse off for it? Yes?

471
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 4: Should they be clowned for their motivations? Yes, But is

472
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 4: this their fault? No, No, it is not.

473
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,200
Speaker 3: Correct, not their fault at all.

474
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 4: All.

475
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: Right, now on to the University of Utah, because they

476
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: did something Ralph that is going to it's not even

477
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 2: going to It is putting a lot of pressure on

478
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 2: a lot of other schools.

479
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 3: It is going to help their recruiting.

480
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 4: Yep.

481
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:50,439
Speaker 2: It is gonna leave some people very unhappy in other locations.

482
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 3: And that is a bunch of trucks went out.

483
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:57,240
Speaker 2: So every scholarship player at the University of Utah will

484
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 2: be receiving a truck to you who's not own but

485
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: use it will have some some level of branding on it,

486
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: and you know it's it looks like a I wouldn't.

487
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,239
Speaker 2: It doesn't have as much branding as like a U

488
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: haul truck, but it's got like a little you know,

489
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 2: it's like putting a Mary Kay bumper sticker on your

490
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 2: on your door, on the car or something like that, like,

491
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 2: you know, a branding for the people who are sponsoring

492
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 2: the nil deals, for the yes, the Crimson collective. So

493
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 2: and I want to applaud them because this is how

494
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 2: you do collective work. Now, Now, the offensive lineman, who

495
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 2: normally get nothing or very little in NIL deals except

496
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: for at a few different places, and it's usually only

497
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 2: the top end kids who came in as big name recruits,

498
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 2: even if they're starters and all of that stuff. Well,

499
00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 2: now this puts everybody on equal footing the way that way,

500
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 2: the backup lineman, he feels really good about what's going

501
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: on there because he gets something. Even though he knows

502
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: that cam Rising is going to get more. He can

503
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 2: live with that now. And now before you leave, he

504
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: gonna be like, huh, all right, So if I leave,

505
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 2: I gotta go get another car.

506
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 3: I gotta do this, I gotta do that. Listen, brother,

507
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: these are questions.

508
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: It makes it a little bit tougher to get up

509
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: out of there now, and I like it.

510
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 4: All right. We brought this up last week, but the

511
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 4: reason we're bringing it up again this week is for

512
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 4: two reasons. One because you said that it's putting pressure

513
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 4: on other schools yep, And I'm gonna have you elaborate

514
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: on that in a minute, because I think that's very important.

515
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 4: And number two, I actually spent some time thinking about it,

516
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: talk to some people, and I'm not a hater. I

517
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 4: actually love that this is happening. But let's be clear,

518
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 4: this is not an il.

519
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: Yes it is.

520
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 4: No, it's not.

521
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: How it is not because you do have to do

522
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: something for it.

523
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 4: All right, Let's let's go through this. Do you get

524
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 4: a truck because of your name?

525
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 3: Yes?

526
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: Because because is Ralph Amsden and you are going to

527
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: show up and do a commercial, or show up and

528
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 2: do something for the Crimson Collective.

529
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 4: Because I am a what.

530
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 3: A Utah football player?

531
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 4: Right? So to quote the Rock, it doesn't matter what

532
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 4: your name is, yes it does.

533
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 2: It does not matters if your name is one of

534
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: these eighty five names.

535
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 4: No, it matters if your name is Utah quarterback one.

536
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 4: You talk quarterback to you tall running back one you

537
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 4: tall running back to I don't talk.

538
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: I don't I don't think that that's what their deal

539
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 2: is gonna say. I think their deal is gonna say

540
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 2: it's for Ralph Amsden.

541
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: Period.

542
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 4: They announced it as it's for the scholarship players at

543
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 4: the University of U. Yes, is it because of Is

544
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 4: it because of their image or the team's image, their

545
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 4: individual image. No, it is not, because it's not going

546
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 4: to individual It's going to the whole team. It's about

547
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 4: the whole team.

548
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: See now, See it's funny because I have this sort

549
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: of conversation with my wife all the time, Ralph, and

550
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: you are doing a Denisia right now, which is she

551
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: tries to tell me how stuff how she sees it,

552
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 2: and she's probably right, and you're you are actually right

553
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 2: in this situation. However, though, when when when I respond

554
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: in turn, like with the legalities of it, which is, no,

555
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: the contract is going to say it's for Ralph Hampson,

556
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: the contract is going to say it's.

557
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,400
Speaker 3: For George Reister. So what the.

558
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: Actual like behind the scenes motive and all that is,

559
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter because legally it is going to be

560
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: by the book, So technically it is not an inducement,

561
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: as much as you want it to be an inducement,

562
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: not an inducement because they're going through the proper things.

563
00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: It just so happens to be that these players have

564
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: the same thing.

565
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 4: You sound like shaggy right now.

566
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: Huh how is that like because.

567
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 4: You saw me do it, but it wasn't me. That's

568
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 4: it's no, it's nil because I said so. No, not,

569
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 4: it's n I L.

570
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 3: It's n I L because that's what it is. Because

571
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: that's what it is. Bro. That's literally it's an ni

572
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 3: L deal. You get it. If they are going to require.

573
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: The student athletes to do something for this, which is

574
00:31:57,240 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 2: literally what.

575
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 4: Ni L is. Football player, that's in literally the definition

576
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 4: of inducement.

577
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 3: No, it's Ralph Rubh. You can.

578
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 2: You can spirit of the law, letter of the law.

579
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: All it is that you want to you are the

580
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: spirit right now.

581
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 4: These deals are a way to filter cash into the

582
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 4: hands of players so that they will play for your school.

583
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 4: There are a few enterprising businesses out there, like the

584
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 4: Big Boys, the Chick fil A's, the Doctor Pepper's, uh,

585
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 4: the Guicos, you know, the Heismanhouse stuff doing stuff like

586
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 4: that that actually is based on the name image and

587
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 4: likeness of the very famous players. But if something is

588
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 4: available to your second string scholarship kicker and your long

589
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 4: snapper whose names nobody is ever gonna know, it's it's

590
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 4: not it's about the team. And is everybody out there

591
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 4: trying to find ways to make sure that nil is

592
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 4: used in a way that helps their team. Yes, and

593
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 4: this and that's.

594
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 3: A perfect way to do it. But I'm telling you.

595
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 4: There are schools. There are school there are schools that

596
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 4: have interpreted what is happening right now as something that

597
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 4: they're not able to do under the letter of the law.

598
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 4: Utah is like I will see forgiveness later.

599
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 3: See.

600
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,239
Speaker 2: You have to remember is that the letter of the

601
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 2: law depends on the state as well, So like some

602
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: states have different rules, so it may be against the

603
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 2: law in certain states. This is why there needs to

604
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: be national legislation that is consistent across the board that

605
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: just that just says do whatever you want, because because

606
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: each individual state is not gonna have the same rules

607
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: and regulations, and when you don't, you're going to have

608
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: players to be like I'm not going over there to

609
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: that state because I know I can't this this, this

610
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: can't happen.

611
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: So okay, So here's what I want. Here's what I

612
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 4: want you to do now, because you got some insight

613
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 4: on this and and you talk to me about it,

614
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 4: and it didn't really hit me until you talk to

615
00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 4: me about it. I heard this and I was like,

616
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 4: that's a really cool thing for the Utah football players.

617
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 4: Might not be nil's letter of the law, but this

618
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 4: is exactly what I want. I want benefits, uh, you know,

619
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 4: I want them to get paid, but that that's probably

620
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 4: not gonna happen. So you know, I look at this

621
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh, that's really cool. I'm glad that

622
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 4: they have access to that. That's really good for them.

623
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 4: That was my immediate reaction. And then you called and

624
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 4: you were like, this is gonna f everybody up? Yes,

625
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 4: and you're and you explained it to me. So how

626
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 4: is it going to mess everybody up?

627
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 3: Number one?

628
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: The thing that's already screwing things up for a lot

629
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 2: of schools already is that promises were made and have

630
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: not been kept.

631
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 3: That's number one.

632
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: When they recruited players, they were like, we're gonna do this, this, this,

633
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 2: and the money that got funny, right, So that's so

634
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 2: that's number one, they did not undersell and over delivered.

635
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 3: They have undersold.

636
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 2: They have over sold and under delivered, which creates unhappiness

637
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 2: because the expectation something else.

638
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 3: So that's first thing.

639
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 2: Second thing is is that now Utah has raised the

640
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: level of expectation for the other schools. And if you

641
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 2: look at the stuff that Deon's doing at Colorado, you

642
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: don't think Dion's trying to figure out how to get

643
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: this done at Colorado right right now, except instead of

644
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 2: it being like Dodge Dodge rams, it's like Benzes or

645
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: something like.

646
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 3: You don't think he's trying to figure this out right now.

647
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 2: If Deon don't figure, I will bet you dollars to donuts,

648
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 2: buddy that Colorado players have a car deal before.

649
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,800
Speaker 3: Before next season starts.

650
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 5: And so then the expectation is if you're a three

651
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 5: star corner and you can go somewhere and have a

652
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 5: car and go somewhere or not have a car, you're

653
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 5: probably gonna go somewhere that has a car.

654
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: Uh Sometimes Yeah, I mean I don't think that everybody's

655
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: gonna make a decision off a loaner car, but I

656
00:35:58,200 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: do think that it.

657
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 4: No when people weigh pro and cons when they're like,

658
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 4: So when Adam Brenneman put that video out a while

659
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 4: back of like, he's like, I'm gonna explain why I

660
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 4: considered or didn't consider these colleges that recruited me in

661
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 4: five words or less. And for a lot of them,

662
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 4: he was like, facilities weren't great because they do they

663
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 4: do stack the list of like, these are my five

664
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 4: most important things to me. Here's the pro and con.

665
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 4: And you're gonna be able to write truck in the

666
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:25,720
Speaker 4: pro column?

667
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 3: Freak.

668
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 4: Should I go to Falt Lake City?

669
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, car, yeah, so so yes.

670
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 2: It is going to put some pressure on people to

671
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: do things a little bit differently which I am, which

672
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:43,200
Speaker 2: I which I don't hate. So so yeah, even though

673
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: you want to call it an inducement, it ain't. Now

674
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 2: speaking of inducements or or or uninducements, the Eliza Rushing

675
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 2: decommitted from the University of Arizona. It looks like he's

676
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: getting ready to commit somewhere somewhere else in the in

677
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: the next week. But he's a five star defensive lineman

678
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 2: out of Arizona. It shocked the world already when he

679
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 2: committed there, and everybody was like, oh damn, he's staying

680
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: at home. Okay, dead fish, but it was hit. Ralph

681
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: felt like his decommitment letter was scorching.

682
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 4: It was It wasn't scorching. It was just different. I've

683
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 4: never read anything like it, and i've i've I think

684
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 4: I brought it up to you that I've never seen

685
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 4: anything quite like it. Percent of the time when somebody decommits,

686
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 4: they're like, I want to thank the coaches who recruited me.

687
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 4: I'm still open to everything that's out there, but I'm

688
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 4: going to reevaluate my options at this time. That is

689
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 4: the typical decommitment. Did I leave anything out? That's pretty

690
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 4: much it, right.

691
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: Yep, yep. Yeah.

692
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: Usually it respect my privacy or like to decommit. And

693
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 2: they don't specify whether they chose to de commit or

694
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 2: whether they got pushed out or whatever.

695
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 3: They just said, I de committed.

696
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 4: Yeah. And and there are a lot of these kids

697
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 4: who get dropped by the schools that they were committed

698
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 4: to a lot of them schools.

699
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: That's what that's something that you dub that, that's what

700
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: happened that you dub with their quarterback who's now committed

701
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:19,480
Speaker 2: to Cow.

702
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 4: Right. So then and then the player will come out

703
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 4: and be like, I spent some time talking to my

704
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 4: family or in prayer, and I think it's time for

705
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 4: me to open up my recruiting ops Like, no, you

706
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 4: spend some time on the phone with your position coach

707
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 4: and he said, there's not a spot for you anymore.

708
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,919
Speaker 4: And I wish kids would just come out and say that,

709
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 4: you know, but they also don't want to put themselves in.

710
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 4: They don't want to upset the fraternity of a.

711
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: Couple of kids who who have said that like Yo,

712
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 2: and it doesn't go well for them.

713
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 4: It does like people attack kids for telling the truth.

714
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, well but this this is commitment.

715
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, this de commitment was Elijah Rushing came out and said,

716
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 4: like Arizona has improved. It's very clear I am from Tucson.

717
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 4: The idea of being a hometown hero in Tucson was

718
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 4: very appealing to me. Upon further review, I don't think

719
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 4: this school is gonna get me where I want to go,

720
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:24,479
Speaker 4: so like and and that is a bitter pin.

721
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 2: And he was going to sell like he was gonna

722
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: help their recruiting so much because it's like YO, five

723
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,840
Speaker 2: star committed here. That means you can do it too,

724
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 2: And we're gonna build something special with you guys. Like

725
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: you guys are gonna be the first class that we

726
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: put together. That is because TMAC is their highest rated

727
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: recruit of all time. Elijah Rushing was gonna be their

728
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: highest rated commit of all time.

729
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, so, like you.

730
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 2: Start stacking those together, you know, like one five star

731
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 2: is class three four four stars, next class, stack another

732
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 2: four or five, and that's how you build your roster out.

733
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: Granted, yes, I know.

734
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 2: We we've talked about recruiting rankings in the macro versus

735
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 2: the micro, so we don't need to go over that again.

736
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:20,879
Speaker 4: But yeah, so you you have a player that comes

737
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:22,479
Speaker 4: out and says, I don't think this school is gonna

738
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 4: get me where I want to go. I fully expect

739
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 4: fans to take that poorly. I do.

740
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: Yep.

741
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 4: So it's gonna hurt your feelings a little bit. And

742
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 4: then the way in which it happened. So here's some

743
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 4: here's some ancillary details. Elijah Rushing place for a school

744
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 4: called Tucson Salle Point. It's a private school right there

745
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 4: in Tucson. It's where Jon Robinson, Lathon Ransom went. The

746
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 4: University of Arizona's gonna be playing this year. Yeah. Uh,

747
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,800
Speaker 4: they miss out on all they they miss out. University

748
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 4: of Arizona does on all the good kids out of

749
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 4: Cell Point. They had one committed, Traycon Moorgay, but Jedfish

750
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 4: dropped him and he's now the starting quarterback at Western Michigan.

751
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 4: So you know that's the relationship. This coaching ste to

752
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 4: even get people from South Point after dropping Traycon was impressive.

753
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 4: And they got two guys both on the defensive line,

754
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 4: Keyona will Height and Elijah Rushing. Well, Keyona will Height

755
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 4: de committed last week and then at Friday's game, Tosh Loupoy,

756
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 4: the Oregon defensive coordinator, was on the sideline of the

757
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 4: Tucson Sallepoint game. Yeah against against Corona Del Soul, And

758
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, after Tosh Loupoy is on the sideline,

759
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 4: Elijah Rushing announces, Hey, I don't think Arizona is the

760
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 4: school that's gonna get me where I want to go.

761
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 4: And so you have two kids from the same school, Yeah.

762
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they have two d they have two d

763
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: is there to one woman rushing in the other kids

764
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: pretty damn good too.

765
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, so they both decommit from Arizona Here's what

766
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 4: makes it even more complicated. Elijah Rushing has an older brother.

767
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,799
Speaker 4: Oregon wanted him to come walk on. Florida wanted him

768
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 4: to come walk on. Florida got him after one year

769
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:22,280
Speaker 4: at Florida. University of Arizona said Cruise Rushing, come on down. Yeah,

770
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 4: and they brought him in through the transfer portal. He's

771
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 4: not playing, he's not playing. But the idea that Elijah

772
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 4: Rushing wouldn't have some type of insights into what's actually

773
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 4: going on at University of Arizona. Of course he does.

774
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 4: His brother plays for the team. Now, is this going

775
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 4: to make things hard for his brother? Probably, it's going

776
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,320
Speaker 4: to make things awkward on the brother, awkward on the family.

777
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 4: But the fact of the matter is this kid has

778
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 4: to make their own decision. Are you getting out recruited,

779
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 4: are you getting outspent, you know, whatever it is, doesn't matter.

780
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 4: They're not your property until they show up on campus,

781
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 4: and even then they're not your property. They're amateur athletes,

782
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 4: quote unquote. So people were very upset. But we did

783
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 4: have some people out here saying that they wanted to

784
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 4: rally people to show up at his high school games

785
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 4: with signs. Chase the family out of town. Make the

786
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 4: rest of this kid's life miserable. Let him know he's

787
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 4: not welcome in Tucson. We got some really hurtful stuff

788
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 4: because hurt people, hurt people, and a lot of people

789
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 4: got their feelings hurtd by this decommitment. How weird do

790
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:25,799
Speaker 4: you think this becomes for Arizona because it's the high

791
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 4: school in their city, it's two players, he got the

792
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,399
Speaker 4: older brother on the team.

793
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: I I think that it has become a situation where before,

794
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 2: so if he were thinking if he decommitted, he's been

795
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 2: thinking about this for quite some time, yes, because he

796
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 2: knows how big of an impact that it's going to

797
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: have on his family in the community. Right, So there

798
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 2: was two way for him to do this. Either de

799
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: commit now and then give the team plenty of time

800
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 2: to figure something else out, you know, and all and

801
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: all of that, or you wait till the last minute

802
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,399
Speaker 2: the way your family can be there peacefully and then

803
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 2: bone out. Yeah, but but that's kind of cowardly, I mean,

804
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 2: I know. Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, that's that that's not

805
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: the right right word. It's cowardly is not the right word,

806
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: because like it's like conflict avoidant because because you can

807
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: understand why and and that's why I didn't want to

808
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,120
Speaker 2: use the word cowardly, because you can understand why a

809
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 2: high school kid wouldn't want to put pressure on his

810
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 2: family or on himself in the community that they live in,

811
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 2: especially with wackos out there.

812
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 4: Yes, and there are some some big time wackos. Yes

813
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 4: you know.

814
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:03,319
Speaker 2: Yes, So so I apologize for the cowardly word. And

815
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 2: you guys know, if you guys have been following me

816
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: for a long time, I don't I don't issue apologies

817
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: unless I really mean it.

818
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 4: So uh interestingly enough, Keona Willhight, the other player from

819
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 4: Cell Point that decommitted, is going to be at this

820
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 4: Oregon Washington game to visit Washington. What a loser you are,

821
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 4: You're you're already in rivalry mode. Oh yes, yes, okay, yes,

822
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:37,800
Speaker 4: huck the fuskies. All right, let's jump into last week's games.

823
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:43,560
Speaker 2: All right, all right, yeah, so last week's games were

824
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 2: pretty good. We shall Let's start with that Washington State

825
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 2: U c L A game which which I got completely wrong,

826
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,720
Speaker 2: except for we were we were right on the under

827
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 2: but the where it was only forty two point scored,

828
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 2: but the yeah, but the team that we thought was

829
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 2: gonna win did not win. Cam Rising, I'm cam Rising

830
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: cam Ward. He looked exactly like the cam Ward I

831
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 2: didn't like last year.

832
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 4: Maybe worse.

833
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, holding on to the ball, just trying to wait

834
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 2: for a big play, not playing on time. It was

835
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 2: and granted credit to UCLA's defense because they put him

836
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 2: in an absolute headlock.

837
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 3: And Ralph was wanting.

838
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: To throw throw things because aside from the cam Ward

839
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 2: seven runs for minus twelve yards, they only had twelve

840
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 2: rushing attempts, which which Ralph absolutely hates. Ucla ran the

841
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 2: ball fifty three times, fifty three times. The blonde hair

842
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: bandit steel without there in.

843
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 3: The ball, all over people. It was a blazer hot day.

844
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: In the Rose Bowl, Dante Moore went fifty percent for

845
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: two ninety one touchdown, two picks, and he is he

846
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 2: reminds me of this situation with him. It reminds me

847
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 2: a lot of the same thing that happened with Dorian

848
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: Thompson Robinson at UCLA, where as a freshman he makes

849
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: you want to throw things sometimes, but then he'll do

850
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: something like he'll have like back to back throws and

851
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: you're like, oh my god, this kid is gonna be

852
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: a freaking problem.

853
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 3: And then you'll be like, why would you do that?

854
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 3: Why would you do that?

855
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:43,720
Speaker 2: And that's freshman behavior playing big time ball, And Chip's

856
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 2: gonna stick with him because as soon as you get

857
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: to the point where you're like, bro, he's got to

858
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: come out, he does some stuff and you're like, hell no,

859
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: don't take him out.

860
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 3: Yeah.

861
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 4: If people think you're all over the place with this take,

862
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 4: they should try being on the phone with you while

863
00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 4: Dante Moore is playing, because he'll make a throw and

864
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 4: it'll be like whoa, and you'll be like, he's going

865
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 4: to be a legend. And then the next play I'll

866
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 4: be like, but did you see that one? And you're like,

867
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 4: what one? Just you just put those blinders on man,

868
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: And I get it, I get it. He has flashed

869
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 4: some really like high high level talent. This game was

870
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 4: cool for him, it was cool for UCLA, but mostly

871
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,399
Speaker 4: it was just frustrating to find out that Washington State

872
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 4: is fake.

873
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:38,240
Speaker 2: They came in number what thirteen in the nation? Brody

874
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: looked fakered and like, granted, I do believe that you

875
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: CLA should be in the top twenty five, but damn,

876
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 2: bro you said it hurt your feelings?

877
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 4: Yes, are you ready? Are you ready for this? Are

878
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 4: you ready for this?

879
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah? Okay, come on, come on, bringing.

880
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 4: Washing Washington State had two hundred and sixteen yards. Yeah,

881
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 4: total eleven first downs, total four turnovers. They got beat

882
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 4: on time of possession thirty eight minutes to twenty one.

883
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 4: And and are you ready for the kicker? What? They

884
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 4: were winning this damn game in the fourth quarter. Yes,

885
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 4: that's what the hell? Yes, they were winning.

886
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 2: That's the that's the cod part. Yes, they were winning

887
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 2: when the fourth quarter start.

888
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 4: It feels like they lost by a thousand. Yes, it

889
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 4: feels like they took the biggest, most dominant loss of

890
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 4: the weekend of anybody in college. Not like they got

891
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 4: choked out, like they couldn't do anything.

892
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 3: Do you know what that.

893
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: Is?

894
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: That when when I pulled up the score right right

895
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: now on the tab that I had open, I.

896
00:49:56,080 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 3: Was like, damn, that game is closer than I remember. Yes,

897
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. The game felt this was a.

898
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 2: Eight point victory, and it felt like they won by

899
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 2: four touchdowns.

900
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 4: Have you ever seen that movie? Liar liar, Yes, Well,

901
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 4: they walk into the bathroom and Jim Carrey's beating himself

902
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 4: up in the bathroom. Yes, and they're like, what are

903
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 4: you doing. He's like, I'm kicking my ass mine. That's

904
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 4: what watching this Washington State team felt like on Saturday.

905
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 4: They were just out there, like trying as hard as

906
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 4: they could to be awful. Yeah, I thought they were legit.

907
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 4: So tell me this is this de'anton lynn because I

908
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 4: thought it was wild that Chip Kelly hired a d

909
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,400
Speaker 4: court after we begged him for years to make a

910
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 4: change at decordinator. He finally did, and then unfortunately Bill

911
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 4: McGovern the replacement passed away and so he had to

912
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 4: make another DC hired. It was like, oh, you know,

913
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 4: he hates just even having to do this in the

914
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 4: first place. He goes out and gets the Raven's safety coach,

915
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 4: who's never called the defense in life, and they agree

916
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 4: to pay this man two hundred thousand more dollars than

917
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 4: anyone has ever made as a coordinator at UCLA. And

918
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 4: I was like, this is this is one of the

919
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 4: most insane things Chip Kelly's ever done. Well, guess what

920
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 4: I was wrong. It is the greatest hire anybody's ever

921
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 4: made in the history of the world. Oh okay, No,

922
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 4: So their defense looks very very much.

923
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: Oh br They are number one in the conference in

924
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,919
Speaker 2: total defense two hundred and fifty four yards a game.

925
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 2: They are number two in the conference in scoring defense,

926
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 2: only giving up eleven sorry third in scoring defense giving

927
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 2: up twelve point two points per game.

928
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 3: That's it.

929
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 4: That's all they're given up. And they're gonna be like

930
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 4: because I don't feel like they gotta have a ton

931
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 4: of stars on defense. No, they're gonna be like the

932
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 4: first team in history to finish number one in the

933
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 4: conference in defense and not have like any first teamers. Yeah,

934
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 4: this is a coaching job.

935
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 2: Yes, they are scheming the hell And this is why

936
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 2: I said. I tweeted out UCLA that Dante Moore next

937
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: year should be a problem and this team should be

938
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 2: really good. I know that they got to get back

939
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 2: into portal and all of this stuff because they have

940
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 2: a bunch of seniors on defense, But the reality is

941
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 2: they got some good young players too. This defense is

942
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: going to be good again next year because people are

943
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: gonna want to play in it, particularly if they get

944
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: a few players drafted.

945
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 3: You're gonna have.

946
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 2: People wanting to play in this In this defense, they're

947
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 2: going to the big ten yo Ucla might actually be

948
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 2: in a really good if they can figure out their

949
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:42,920
Speaker 2: their offense, they're gonna put USC in a headlock at

950
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 2: the end of this season. I don't know if they're

951
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 2: gonna win it, but that game is gonna be a

952
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 2: lot closer. That games gonna be a lot closer than

953
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 2: people think it's gonna be. All right, Next game up,

954
00:52:53,520 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 2: Colorado at Arizona State, Colorado twenty seven, Arizona State twenty four.

955
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 3: The chore.

956
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 4: The store If a seventy thousand dollars watches flexed in

957
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 4: the forest and no one is around to hear it,

958
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 4: did it actually happen?

959
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 3: No?

960
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 2: Because it was on PACK twelve network, and I guess

961
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 2: that's where we'll start.

962
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 3: Was the first thing because you had so many people

963
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: talk about ha ha, Colorado.

964
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 6: Nobody's talking about them because they took two losses, ha ha.

965
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 6: And we were like, welcome to the PAC twelve network, buddy,

966
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 6: And you had so many people because I've been waiting

967
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 6: to laugh about this because we've tweeted it out for

968
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 6: the PAC twelve apostles or webs Twitter. We've been waiting

969
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 6: on people to the new baby Colorado fans to be

970
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 6: like wait, wait, wait.

971
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:48,839
Speaker 3: Where's the game? Where's the game?

972
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 2: My wife asked me, was like, Yo, what channel is

973
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 2: the Colorado game on?

974
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 3: I was like, PAC twelve Networks. She was like, fuck irs.

975
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 4: There was somebody that I said that I was going

976
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 4: to retweet everybody who like just discovered the pleasure of

977
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 4: trying to find a game. I retweeted over one hundred

978
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 4: tweets and I lost more than two hundred followers because

979
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 4: of it, and it was worth it to me. And

980
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:22,280
Speaker 4: there was one tweet that sticks out in my mind

981
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 4: above all the others, and it was somebody tweeted, man,

982
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,879
Speaker 4: you got PACK twelve network. You must have that good

983
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 4: ass Cable's got that good ass cable. It was so

984
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 4: funny to watch people not be able to watch it.

985
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 4: The funniest one was because every single week of Jason

986
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 4: Whitlock being like Dion Sanders, fake football coach, fake Christian

987
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,680
Speaker 4: ruining college football, and then he was tweeting out like, hey,

988
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 4: how do I get this Colorado game? So all he

989
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,760
Speaker 4: talks about is it. He couldn't even hate it because

990
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 4: watch it. And you got to understand if you follow

991
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 4: Jason Whitlock for a long time, like this man used

992
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 4: to ask people to post his articles for him because

993
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 4: he didn't understand how to copy and paste on a computer.

994
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 4: So like he was an online columnist who didn't even

995
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 4: understand the very basics of technology for years. If you

996
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 4: go back, there's probably hundreds of tweets of Jason Whitlock saying,

997
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 4: can someone please post my article for me that I

998
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 4: just wrote? Can somebody go to Fox Sports and post

999
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 4: it and I'll retweet you. So you got to understand that, like,

1000
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 4: this is a man who probably spends forty eight hours

1001
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:38,920
Speaker 4: sweating if he has to learn how to use a

1002
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,360
Speaker 4: new remote control. So like the idea that he was

1003
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 4: like waddling around his bachelor pad looking for a way

1004
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,840
Speaker 4: to get this game is so funny to me, So

1005
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 4: funny to me.

1006
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 2: Dude, I can't wait for because on a side note,

1007
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 2: I can't wait for one of these women to break

1008
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: their nda is that they've signed about about his exploits

1009
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 2: and his his fake Christian behavior.

1010
00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,800
Speaker 3: But that's a whole nother that's a whole other topic.

1011
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:12,160
Speaker 4: Well, none of it will involve using technology, correctly.

1012
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,560
Speaker 2: Correct, You're right about that, all right, So back to Colorado.

1013
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:23,640
Speaker 2: This was another game where Shador Sanders he was outstanding

1014
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 2: when it mattered the most, he was outstanding.

1015
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 3: And I looked.

1016
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:32,279
Speaker 2: At it and I was like, Okay, bro, he is

1017
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 2: he looks really good and this is something that he

1018
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 2: has continuously shown us, and he.

1019
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 4: People saying he takes sas on purpose. You believe that?

1020
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 3: Oh? Okay?

1021
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 4: Also, is that is that like a a bat? Like?

1022
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 4: Does that make you a bad person?

1023
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:58,799
Speaker 2: Okay, So you're you're talking to the person who despises

1024
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,640
Speaker 2: NBA players when they when they have a chance to

1025
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 2: shoot a half court shot at at the end of

1026
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 2: a quarter and they intentionally wait until the buzzer runs out.

1027
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 3: So you're talking to that person.

1028
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,479
Speaker 2: So the answer to your question is I I hate

1029
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: it if if this is true, and I said that

1030
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 2: I was gonna watch the game and investigate it. And

1031
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: there is some evidence that they're that that could be true, but.

1032
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 3: I hope not.

1033
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna go that far because some people have

1034
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 2: taken it way too far. I'm not gonna go that far.

1035
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's not it's that would be better.

1036
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 4: To the untrained eye. To quote Lincoln Riley, I don't

1037
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 4: I'm not actually seeing this. Yeah, it to me, it

1038
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 4: looks like he's just getting hit a lot because his

1039
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 4: O line is really bad.

1040
00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: Which could be it too. That's why, that's why I

1041
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to make that assertion. And I'm not

1042
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 2: watching the all twenty two, so I can't see what

1043
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: the coverage looks like to say, oh, he's turning down throws.

1044
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 2: He threw the ball forty two times, so it's hard

1045
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: to say he's turning down a whole lot of throws.

1046
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Colorado still cannot run the football.

1047
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 4: Nope.

1048
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 2: Still they ran it thirty times. Bro imagine running the

1049
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,080
Speaker 2: ball thirty times.

1050
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,200
Speaker 3: For fifty six yards.

1051
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: Oh well, I bet you can imagine it if you're

1052
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: Arizona State, who ran it twenty nine times for fifty

1053
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 2: seven yards twins so yards two point oer yards per

1054
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 2: carry versus one point nine per carry.

1055
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 4: They still can't protect the quarterback, they still can't run

1056
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 4: the ball, and they still can't play man coverage. But

1057
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 4: they did a good job against the running this game.

1058
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 4: I want to give him credit for that. So Arizona

1059
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 4: State got the ball at like the six yard line,

1060
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:04,919
Speaker 4: had a ninety four year.

1061
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 2: Miller nowhere to be found, one catch for nine yards.

1062
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:14,640
Speaker 4: But number four who uh.

1063
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 2: Jogone Antonio, Oh my god, he was a star, bros.

1064
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 4: A star.

1065
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,800
Speaker 3: It wasn't It was not the same. He is not

1066
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 3: the type of athlete that because oh, you bought that

1067
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 3: last ball and failed down, I was like, what are

1068
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,880
Speaker 3: you doing? I would have been ready to throw things

1069
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 3: at it.

1070
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 4: But he also caught his first touchdown, I think, in

1071
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 4: this game. And so I'm saying that, like, I think

1072
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 4: it's a hallmark of a good coach that you can

1073
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 4: get somebody to pop off every single week.

1074
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 2: Like oh yeah, yeah, not just Jimmy Horn or Michael Harrison, yeah,

1075
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: or Hankerson, It's it's Agree Weaver.

1076
00:59:44,760 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 3: It's been Miller. Yeah. Yeah.

1077
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 4: Arizona State was down twenty four to seventeen. They had

1078
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,360
Speaker 4: the ball to six, They went ninety four yards and scored,

1079
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 4: and then Kenny Dillingham did not go for two. And

1080
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,479
Speaker 4: after the game he was like, look, the analytics tell

1081
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 4: me that putting Colorado in a situation where they're down

1082
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:11,800
Speaker 4: one when we're at home would create in them more

1083
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 4: of a sense of urgency to be aggressive on the

1084
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,400
Speaker 4: offensive side wall And so that's what he had to

1085
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 4: say about that. And then Colorado came out as they

1086
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 4: were very aggressive on the offensive side.

1087
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 2: They left the well, they they busted coverage, They left

1088
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 2: them wide ass open on the first first play.

1089
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 4: Yes, all right, so let's get to the let's get

1090
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 4: to the to the thing that happened after the game,

1091
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 4: the two things that happened after the game there. Yeah,

1092
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 4: So after the game at Colorado kicks a game winning

1093
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 4: field goal, Shador Sanders runs over to he puts a

1094
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 4: seventy thousand dollars watch on, runs over to the student section,

1095
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 4: waves it in their face. People throw a couple of

1096
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 4: water bottles, and he's followed by three camera member, three

1097
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 4: people filming, including Dion Junior, who's doing his weekly like

1098
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,919
Speaker 4: hour long YouTube video of the of the of the

1099
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 4: Colorado's game. So it was pre planned, right. People said

1100
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 4: the student section was being nasty, student section was being

1101
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 4: a student section. Yeah, yeah, every game.

1102
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:15,320
Speaker 2: Every time student sections really go too far is if

1103
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 2: they call you out of your name, or they do

1104
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 2: what Oregon's some students did from Oregon's student section against BYU.

1105
01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 3: A year ago.

1106
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, or you can't go too far, Yeah you can't.

1107
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 3: Yes, there there.

1108
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 2: Are limits, but typically student sections are just student sections.

1109
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:36,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, and it's and then if they taunt you

1110
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 4: all game long and you taunt them back once like,

1111
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 4: that doesn't bother me at all. The watch thing I

1112
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 4: don't like, but that's another conversation for another time, because

1113
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 4: it reminds me of the money Man's out thing. I

1114
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 4: think it'll age weird, but I don't. But the fact

1115
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 4: that he taunted the student section, I don't care. Don't

1116
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 4: love that they threw water bottles. But I was at

1117
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 4: a game last night Appalachian State and Coastal Carolina where

1118
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 4: they walk off field goal, an offensive line from from

1119
01:01:57,880 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 4: Coastal Carolina ran over to the student section mock them.

1120
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 4: They threw a beer and he picked it up and

1121
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 4: drank it. So like it happens. It's not just Shaduur.

1122
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 4: The the white kids over on the East Coast are

1123
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 4: doing it too, like everybody does it. He's are college kids,

1124
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 4: So that didn't bother me. But also on the last play,

1125
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 4: Elijah Badger ran out of bounds, but he dropped the ball. Uh,

1126
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 4: Jordan Dominic picked it up and I didn't even Camp

1127
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 4: Scataboat laid him out. And then so a bunch of

1128
01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:30,439
Speaker 4: people have said that like ASU is dirty. Uh, that's

1129
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 4: Camp scatterby he.

1130
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,480
Speaker 2: Was trying to return it for a touchdown. Like I

1131
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,880
Speaker 2: didn't see it until after until you pointed it out.

1132
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:38,440
Speaker 2: Because when when when he ran out of bounce, I

1133
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 2: turned agay, I meet my eyes averted from the television.

1134
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 4: I just I just wanted to say that, like zero

1135
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 4: of any of those things bother me at all. I

1136
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,920
Speaker 4: don't even find them interesting. I think people like to

1137
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 4: debate Colorado, whether somebody else class or not. Shador did

1138
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,600
Speaker 4: take someone's mouthpiece out of their helmet this week and

1139
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 4: throw it into the crowd. Shamari Simmons a safety for

1140
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:03,960
Speaker 4: a se I thought that was a little weird.

1141
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,920
Speaker 3: You don't touch another man's mouth piece.

1142
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 4: Well, he already put his finger in somebody's eyeball. He's

1143
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,520
Speaker 4: not being COVID safe. Yes, the only thing that can

1144
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 4: can stop shandor Sanders now is bacteria.

1145
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: Oregon State fifty to Cow forty ralph.

1146
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 3: This is not how I expected this game to go.

1147
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 4: Up.

1148
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 2: Where's Oregon State's defense first and foremost? And I know

1149
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:38,480
Speaker 2: that they forced you know that they forced a turnover.

1150
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: I'm sorry they forced two turnovers and picks, but they

1151
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 2: gave up forty points to Cow Ralph forty points to cow.

1152
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:52,320
Speaker 4: To air first time starter at quarterback as well.

1153
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you look Oregon State, they gave up

1154
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 2: a bunch of points to Washington State two in their

1155
01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 2: in their loss.

1156
01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 3: I don't know, brother, we.

1157
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 2: We might need to be side eye in the Beavers

1158
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 2: defense right now.

1159
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 4: I agree they they did not look athletic, They did

1160
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 4: not look inspired. They just looked I mean massive holes.

1161
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 4: Cal was opening massive holes for Fonse and ought they're

1162
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 4: just that. I think they're just not a good defensive team.

1163
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 4: Many they were optimistic.

1164
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,600
Speaker 2: They turn over forty cal Ras for two hundred and

1165
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 2: forty one yards on thirty three attempts, seven point three

1166
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 2: yards of carry.

1167
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 4: M Yeah, man, I think you're right. I think that

1168
01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 4: Oregon State just has an old school like I mean,

1169
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 4: like twenty tens level PAC twelve defense. They just got

1170
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 4: outscore you at this point and right and and as

1171
01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 4: far as the things look right now, they can't. They

1172
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 4: can get to forty each game if they need to.

1173
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I would agree with that because when you

1174
01:05:02,280 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 2: look at their stats, they are averaging thirty nine, thirty

1175
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 2: eight and a half points per game while only giving

1176
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 2: up nineteen point six. But that number is gonna go

1177
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 2: way up because their competition is changing.

1178
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 4: So hey, before we before we get into the depressing

1179
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,640
Speaker 4: subject of cal football, can we talk about some of

1180
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 4: the stuff we liked in this game. It's kind of

1181
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,640
Speaker 4: the perfect DJU game. Yes, dude didn't throw a lot

1182
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 4: of passes falls yep, didn't turn the ball over his

1183
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 4: second third, five touchdown game in the season.

1184
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 2: Like, dude, this was what people were looking for when

1185
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 2: Dju stepped foot on campus.

1186
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 3: Is and if his dad was on.

1187
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 2: Social media super proud and everything, and like, this is

1188
01:05:57,120 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 2: what Clemson fans wanted. Granted, their offense doesn't look all

1189
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,920
Speaker 2: that great with kay Klubnick now either. It looks spotty

1190
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 2: there too, but this is definite. He is definitely an

1191
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 2: upgrade over what Oregon State had at the quarterback position

1192
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 2: last year.

1193
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 3: I don't think he's an.

1194
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 2: NFL player, but he can be a good college quarterback

1195
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 2: for the next for this year and next year because

1196
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 2: he's because I think he's got one more year of

1197
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 2: eligibility left after this one.

1198
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, so he's.

1199
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 2: Got a shot, dude, and this team is much better

1200
01:06:32,800 --> 01:06:36,360
Speaker 2: with him. I think it's gonna be hard fending off

1201
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,439
Speaker 2: aiden Childs in the spring.

1202
01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 4: But he got more mening meaningful reps. Yep, he threw

1203
01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:46,880
Speaker 4: a touchdown pass in this game. Uh stared down his

1204
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 4: receiver the entire time and still pulled it off. But

1205
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:50,640
Speaker 4: he threw a touchdown pass.

1206
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1207
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 2: And this Oregon State team, they're ranked where they're sitting

1208
01:06:55,800 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 2: at five and one right now, they're right, I mean,

1209
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,840
Speaker 2: they're not right where they want it to be, because

1210
01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 2: they wanted to be a six.

1211
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 3: And zero right right now.

1212
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1213
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 2: But if you had told Oregon State fans prior to

1214
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 2: the season, especially with the way everything is gone, truth

1215
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,920
Speaker 2: be told, they still control their own destiny.

1216
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 4: The Yeah, but that destiny that's a barbed wire covered

1217
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 4: baseball bat the second half of their schedule.

1218
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 2: You yeah, but but but at the end of the day,

1219
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 2: you still control it.

1220
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 4: I guess. I guess having UCLA, Washington and Oregon left

1221
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 4: is I mean, it's take it one game at a time, whatever.

1222
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:35,840
Speaker 4: But I looked you and I were looking at this

1223
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,480
Speaker 4: upcoming Washington State Ucla game and it was like, oh,

1224
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,959
Speaker 4: if UCLA wins this game, they might have an easy

1225
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:44,320
Speaker 4: path to eleven and one. Well, what if Washington State

1226
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 4: wins this game, we looked at the second half of

1227
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 4: the schedule and we were like, uh, it's gonna be

1228
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:52,800
Speaker 4: hard regardless. So that makes this UCLA game really important.

1229
01:07:53,560 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 4: So I think Silas Boldon probably has to touch the

1230
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,120
Speaker 4: ball all purpose more than seven times. He did fumble

1231
01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 4: in this game, but he to me the most dynamic

1232
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 4: player on that offense. I like see him get them

1233
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 4: a little bit more. Uh. They had balance with their

1234
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 4: running backs for the first time in a while. It

1235
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 4: seems like they go heavy some weeks with Fenwick, some

1236
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 4: heavy some weeks with Martinez. Uh, and then Jack Velling.

1237
01:08:13,160 --> 01:08:15,479
Speaker 4: We got to mention him because three touchdowns on four

1238
01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:18,200
Speaker 4: catches is Yes, it's pretty wild.

1239
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:19,120
Speaker 3: Ye.

1240
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if we're going to have another game

1241
01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 4: like that, especially considering I think he can.

1242
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 2: It's already hard to have three touchdowns in a game

1243
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:30,640
Speaker 2: like so, so so forget three on four catches, just

1244
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 2: three touchdowns period is already hard.

1245
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 3: Enough to come back.

1246
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 4: He had five in his career coming into that game

1247
01:08:36,520 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 4: and left with eight.

1248
01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:42,719
Speaker 3: He like yank yank yank ah. Yeah, so he's super

1249
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:47,200
Speaker 3: excited about that. And but the as far.

1250
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:51,520
Speaker 4: As cow Man, I'm out on Will Cox, I'm out.

1251
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,639
Speaker 3: Wow, you like, how how out are you?

1252
01:08:56,760 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 2: I don't I was never in like hout like okay, guys,

1253
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 2: it's time for him to go or out as in

1254
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 2: I'm just don't even want to talk about it anymore.

1255
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 4: Did you ever? Were you ever like two three weeks

1256
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 4: into a school year and you're like, Okay, I think

1257
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 4: this teacher is all right, Like they're fine, but I

1258
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 4: don't think they have a plan. I don't think they

1259
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,400
Speaker 4: actually come in here knowing what they're doing. Like, I

1260
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 4: don't think they have Yeah, I'm like, I don't think

1261
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:36,680
Speaker 4: he has a goal for where this is gonna go.

1262
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 4: I don't think he I don't know. Maybe it's because

1263
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 4: we have so many new coaches in the PAC twelve

1264
01:09:42,520 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 4: and they're all talking about their vision and what they're building,

1265
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 4: And what's Cal's vision? What are they building? What's the

1266
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 4: whole point of what they're doing out there? What is it?

1267
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 4: What's their identity?

1268
01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:56,799
Speaker 3: Damn?

1269
01:09:57,680 --> 01:10:01,400
Speaker 4: Why would you go to Cal over another school?

1270
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 3: Like?

1271
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 4: What Cal is? What you? What quarterback trends for you? What?

1272
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:07,200
Speaker 4: What are they?

1273
01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:14,840
Speaker 3: School? You school? You Berkeley the university? Right, that's that's

1274
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 3: why you go to Cal? Right now?

1275
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 2: It's it's not I mean because their their defense used

1276
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 2: to be the thing where like all right, look, if

1277
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 2: you're a dB linebacker, you know, a defensive player in general,

1278
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:30,519
Speaker 2: you want to come here, We're gonna coach the hell

1279
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 2: out of you.

1280
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:31,960
Speaker 3: You're gonna go to the league.

1281
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 2: Like that was the thing, like kind of kind of

1282
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 2: like it was at Washington for a while, and now

1283
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:41,760
Speaker 2: Washington is like, no, no, nobody put up.

1284
01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 3: Them points and cal is they don't. They don't.

1285
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 2: We don't know what they want to be right now.

1286
01:10:50,160 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 2: They feel like a team without an identity. Their quarterback

1287
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:56,320
Speaker 2: situation has been atrocious.

1288
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:56,960
Speaker 3: Last year.

1289
01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:59,519
Speaker 2: They couldn't protect the quarterback, not even the I mean

1290
01:10:59,560 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 2: they don't.

1291
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 3: Alm has got poor uh Plumber killed and for.

1292
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:11,519
Speaker 4: Top twenty five Louisville quarterback Jack Plumber, I've seen him

1293
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 4: have success elsewhere. Has got to be a bitter pill.

1294
01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they're not.

1295
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, they just don't look good, dude, Like that's it's

1296
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 2: just it's actually quite sad because you know, I know Justin,

1297
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:27,639
Speaker 2: but his team is three and three at this point

1298
01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:29,599
Speaker 2: in time, they really should be four and two because

1299
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,440
Speaker 2: they shouldn't have lost that damn Auburn.

1300
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 4: Game, right, they shouldn't have lost the Auburn game.

1301
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 2: So I can I think that that's gonna be the

1302
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:39,680
Speaker 2: thing that's gonna keep them. Actually, can I tell you

1303
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,160
Speaker 2: that there's there's no way to make a ball game?

1304
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 3: Well?

1305
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:45,640
Speaker 4: Actually tell you, yes, I just want to. Can I

1306
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,759
Speaker 4: tell you the very petty reason that I'm out on Cal?

1307
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 3: Okay?

1308
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:51,679
Speaker 4: Because I mean you could say, yeah, it's the results,

1309
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 4: it's the history. They've not done anything. They're not showing progress.

1310
01:11:56,720 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 4: You don't know where they're taking this whole thing. They

1311
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 4: don't have a lot of you know, personality or continuity,

1312
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 4: and they've gone through multiple decordinators of coordinators. You can

1313
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,720
Speaker 4: give a lot of reasons. This is my reason and

1314
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:11,560
Speaker 4: it's super specific, and maybe it makes me sound like

1315
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 4: an insane person. When Cal, or when Oregon State was

1316
01:12:16,040 --> 01:12:20,679
Speaker 4: up fourteen to three on cow they got a goofy

1317
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 4: and aggressive and they on side kicked it.

1318
01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 3: Okay.

1319
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:33,480
Speaker 4: Cal had a linebacker named Ryan McCulla, talented freshman field

1320
01:12:34,439 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 4: the onside kick yep, okay, and run it back to

1321
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 4: the twenty yard line.

1322
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 2: You can't do So what do you mean if you, oh,

1323
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:46,799
Speaker 2: you're talking about that.

1324
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 4: Oregon State was up fourteen three day on side kick? Yes,

1325
01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,519
Speaker 4: and Ryan McCulla recovered the on.

1326
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 3: Side and ranack to the twenty.

1327
01:12:54,200 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, exciting, fun, awesome play pumped new life into Cal,

1328
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,639
Speaker 4: who was down fourteen to three, couldn't stop anybody on defense,

1329
01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 4: put them in a position to score. I mean, like,

1330
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 4: I got up off the couch. I thought it was awesome,

1331
01:13:12,760 --> 01:13:14,480
Speaker 4: just a fun, fun play.

1332
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1333
01:13:14,720 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 4: Camera pans over to Justin Wilcox and he's got that

1334
01:13:18,720 --> 01:13:22,720
Speaker 4: same I don't want to be here, stuck at the

1335
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 4: dmvde dead inside look on his face that he always has,

1336
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 4: and I'm just like, funny for him. Yeah, it was,

1337
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:36,719
Speaker 4: and it was right at that moment. And what's funny

1338
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 4: is is Cal went on to score another like thirty

1339
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,800
Speaker 4: seven points in this game, But it was at that

1340
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 4: moment where I was like, oh, he doesn't even like

1341
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,320
Speaker 4: being here, Like, this is a game, it's supposed to

1342
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 4: be fun, and his team just got a new lease

1343
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 4: on life. Everybody's celebrating, well this game was at Cal. Yeah,

1344
01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,760
Speaker 4: and he did not seem to take care.

1345
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 3: That dude.

1346
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 2: He never looks happy no matter, no matter what happens, damn.

1347
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:08,679
Speaker 4: And I was like, man, if he's not even having

1348
01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 4: fun out there, why do.

1349
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:12,640
Speaker 3: This even Savan gets happy sometimes.

1350
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 4: Man, there's an offensive coordinator in Las Vegas, Nevada right

1351
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,960
Speaker 4: now that would have been running up and down the sideline,

1352
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 4: grabbing everybody by the face mask, firing him up after

1353
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 4: a play like that.

1354
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:29,639
Speaker 2: No, you are yes, yes, and you're talking about Brennan,

1355
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:31,840
Speaker 2: Brennan Mary and he absolutely would.

1356
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:35,200
Speaker 4: Have and he'd probably have a vision for where this

1357
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 4: is gone. I just I'm out. I'm out. I think

1358
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 4: he's a good football coach. Doesn't look like he's having

1359
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:43,720
Speaker 4: any fun out there. Cal's gonna be mediocre forever. This

1360
01:14:43,760 --> 01:14:46,320
Speaker 4: is year seven. They have no direction. In year seven,

1361
01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 4: they're just chilling so open to.

1362
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 2: People pointed to the COVID year and the year after

1363
01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:54,439
Speaker 2: as like.

1364
01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 4: But we're too the thing everyone went through.

1365
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they they they did have different restrictions there

1366
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But he has had two years

1367
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 2: to get things back on track after that.

1368
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know, man, it just doesn't look like

1369
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 4: he's enjoying himself. And you know, they he brought in

1370
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 4: an offensive coordinator that I think is doing a really

1371
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 4: good job. They got a good running game, They're they're

1372
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 4: kind of in quarterback hell right now. But you know,

1373
01:15:25,960 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 4: they did some positive things this week. I guess shout

1374
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,640
Speaker 4: out to Fernando Mendoza. That was cool, right, He's like

1375
01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 4: a mix of Sam Jackson, Like, you know, he did

1376
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 4: a little bit. He's a he's a big dude, but

1377
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 4: he doesn't play like he's six ' five to twenty.

1378
01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 4: He can move a little bit. Yeah. I like the

1379
01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 4: way he handled the offense. You know, I don't know

1380
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,240
Speaker 4: if they're still trying to figure out Sam Jackson, Ben

1381
01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:51,040
Speaker 4: Finley or Mendoza, but this was an encouraging game, and

1382
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 4: I'm interesting what they do going forward.

1383
01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:57,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, the answer is Mendoza, at least for this week. Okay,

1384
01:15:58,640 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 2: Now the next thing his you have USC forty three

1385
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 2: Arizona forty one. We talked about it a little bit briefly.

1386
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 2: This game went in a triple overtime. Dude, the last

1387
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:19,280
Speaker 2: what three minutes, No, the last like two minutes of

1388
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:22,720
Speaker 2: the game was like watching the Three Stooges.

1389
01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 4: It was like your child's brain at the end of

1390
01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:27,080
Speaker 4: a day at Disneyland.

1391
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 2: Dude, a zone apple Arizona kicking a fifty yard field

1392
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 2: goal and kind of relenting to that on third down mistake, mistake,

1393
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 2: your kicker has never even attempted a kick that long.

1394
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 3: It wasn't close. It bad decision. And then at that

1395
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 3: point you were just like, USC's gonna win it.

1396
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 2: It's over, it's over. Prior to them even taking a snap,

1397
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:56,240
Speaker 2: you knew the game was over. And then USC gets

1398
01:16:56,320 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 2: all the way down and they are on the edge

1399
01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:01,720
Speaker 2: of field goal range, have a long run but there

1400
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:03,800
Speaker 2: and it was on third down, so you were like, yo,

1401
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 2: if they can make us, he attempt a long field goal.

1402
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 3: Then they got a shot us. He gets down to super.

1403
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 2: Close field goal, right, I forgot how close it was,

1404
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:17,040
Speaker 2: and they iced the kicker. He makes the kick, and

1405
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:20,200
Speaker 2: I told my family, My whole family is sitting there

1406
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 2: and I'm like, he's gonna miss this kick.

1407
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 3: Watch guarantee.

1408
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 2: I was like, I would bet my next check he

1409
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 2: misses the kick, or something happens to get a penalty.

1410
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 3: Any something's going to happen. High snap.

1411
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 2: What actually prior to that, Caleb Williams fumbled the ball

1412
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,360
Speaker 2: on the play before and something else happened.

1413
01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:42,919
Speaker 3: You were just like, are they trying to lose?

1414
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 2: And then the field goal high snap, he puts it down,

1415
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:48,640
Speaker 2: squatting down.

1416
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 4: Squatting Yeah, squatting unbelievable, and then he tried to kick

1417
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:55,719
Speaker 4: the ball.

1418
01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 3: It was terrible.

1419
01:17:59,400 --> 01:18:03,360
Speaker 4: Then what are the players? He got hurt? On the play.

1420
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 3: Game goes into old time. USC goes to.

1421
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:15,599
Speaker 2: Go score, scores, it makes the extra point, Arizona comes

1422
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 2: back immediately scores.

1423
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 3: Why didn't Jed fish go for two?

1424
01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 2: That is the exact spot you want to be in

1425
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:26,040
Speaker 2: the game.

1426
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 3: Jed in the game, but he played the game like

1427
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 3: they were the better team.

1428
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 2: Dude, you got your shot, knock him out or take

1429
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 2: your l You can't keep playing this like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1430
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 2: we're battling this out. This is USC Oregon. This is Washington, Oregon.

1431
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 2: This is Washington USC.

1432
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:51,080
Speaker 4: No, bro, and you don't want to think of it

1433
01:18:51,120 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 4: this way, but it's a no fault loss. If you

1434
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 4: go for two and you don't get it when.

1435
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 3: You're it's a no fault loss.

1436
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 4: I love that with a quarterback in his second ever start.

1437
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 2: Bro, you're playing with house money, go for two, Jed.

1438
01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 2: So anyways, he doesn't.

1439
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 3: Go for two.

1440
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:12,759
Speaker 2: They get the ball into overtime and second overtime score

1441
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 2: immediately and then go for two. Don't get it, and

1442
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 2: then USC scores. They go for two. They don't get it,

1443
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 2: but that play, Like people tried to make all of

1444
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,040
Speaker 2: these other plays about Caleb Williams, that throw he made

1445
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 2: on that two point conversion when he god I was

1446
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,799
Speaker 2: I was like like, like, that's like football wet dreaming

1447
01:19:40,880 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 2: bro like that, And it.

1448
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:46,599
Speaker 4: Wasn't even it And it wasn't even his best play

1449
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 4: of his worst game of the season. Isn't that a

1450
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:54,759
Speaker 4: crazy statement? Because he got stuffed at the goal line,

1451
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:58,519
Speaker 4: rolled out, carried the dude into the end zone, and

1452
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:03,000
Speaker 4: laid across him to put the ball over the goal line. Yeah,

1453
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 4: that was some like, oh he can do that too,

1454
01:20:05,880 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 4: Like that's yes. The debate over is is he not

1455
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 4: going to get drafted? Number one is over? But this

1456
01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 4: is his work.

1457
01:20:13,439 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 3: He feels away.

1458
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:23,440
Speaker 2: He found a way even through he was off Arizona's

1459
01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 2: Now now granted, some of him being off was his

1460
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,559
Speaker 2: own fault, because and I told this to a couple

1461
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 2: of people, is that Caleb Williams fell victim to every

1462
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 2: the exact same thing that I would have fallen victim

1463
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 2: to you everybody else. Listening to the press clippings. Shooting

1464
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 2: for the Heisman, it started out bad and then he

1465
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 2: kept trying to make a big play instead of trying

1466
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:54,479
Speaker 2: to make a play like so, instead of just picking

1467
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 2: up first downs, picking up first downs three yards here,

1468
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:59,360
Speaker 2: five yards here. He was like, Oh, he's searching for

1469
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,800
Speaker 2: the big play. Arizona was like, ain't no big play

1470
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 2: to be to be found here today?

1471
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 4: Buddy right and and Michael Pennix had the patience the

1472
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,080
Speaker 4: week before to be like, oh, you're gonna give me

1473
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 4: ten yards, I'll take it every time. I'll take it

1474
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 4: every time. And came out of there with what it

1475
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 4: was said, seven points, but it really was an easy win.

1476
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 4: Came out of there with an easy win, didn't throw

1477
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,679
Speaker 4: any touchdowns but still through for three hundred yards and

1478
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:28,360
Speaker 4: Caleb Williams only throw for like two hundred yards. Arizona's

1479
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:31,559
Speaker 4: pretty good on defense this year, man, Yeah, pretty good

1480
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:35,000
Speaker 4: on improve no matter what their potential four or five

1481
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 4: star recruits think. Yep, feel bad for him, but it

1482
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 4: is what it is.

1483
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:45,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. So, and then in triple.

1484
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:48,080
Speaker 4: Overtime, are you mad about Jed not really knowing the

1485
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:50,320
Speaker 4: overtime rules? A lot of people have made fun of

1486
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,800
Speaker 4: him for that, but like they're dumb and confusing.

1487
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 2: See, I wasn't sure when they were talking about that,

1488
01:21:56,600 --> 01:21:59,240
Speaker 2: which part of the overtime rules didn't he understand?

1489
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,960
Speaker 4: He sent his kicker out for the double overtime extra point.

1490
01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 4: There is no extra point in double overtime. It's two

1491
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 4: point conversion. Okay, so they had like call timeout or whatever.

1492
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 4: He was getting made fun of a lot for that.

1493
01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 4: But like, the new overtime rules are very bad and dumb. Yes,

1494
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 4: they're bad.

1495
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:17,479
Speaker 3: Yes.

1496
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 4: And then my main grievance is, once you reach triple overtime,

1497
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 4: you and you are the team that goes second. If

1498
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,639
Speaker 4: the team that goes first gets the two point conversion

1499
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 4: right off the bat, there's no built in option to

1500
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:37,439
Speaker 4: win the game. You can only tie. So they're trying

1501
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:40,000
Speaker 4: to have less plays, less injuries, less time go by,

1502
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:42,439
Speaker 4: but you can only tie.

1503
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:47,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yes, I hate that as the need for

1504
01:22:47,200 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 2: another play, yeah yeah.

1505
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,360
Speaker 4: And more commercials, more time outs, the things that actually

1506
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 4: take up a bunch of time.

1507
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:53,960
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1508
01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 2: And then Arizona's two point play in triple overtime that

1509
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 2: toss to their back up running back.

1510
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 4: It was very funny.

1511
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 2: Your quarterback's already thrown five touchdowns, what are you doing fam.

1512
01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 4: Four of them to Jacob counting. Hey, how about this.

1513
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 4: Are you ready for this? Are you ready for this?

1514
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 4: I'm about to blow your mind.

1515
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 2: Number one, does Jacob Cowing have any eligibility left?

1516
01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:19,080
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

1517
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:22,120
Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna I was gonna say, because if

1518
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,680
Speaker 2: that graduates, we know where he'll play next year.

1519
01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't think so, because he played three years

1520
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 4: at UTAP and this is his second year at Arizona. Okay,

1521
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:38,040
Speaker 4: So I think he's got the COVID free year in there.

1522
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 4: So I think he's a senior. Who are the players

1523
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:44,320
Speaker 4: and I'll let you look it up. Who are the

1524
01:23:44,320 --> 01:23:48,240
Speaker 4: players that USC took off of Arizona's roster?

1525
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 3: Oh?

1526
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:56,679
Speaker 2: Oh, the the the y Receivertorian Singer.

1527
01:23:56,960 --> 01:24:00,519
Speaker 4: Okay, do you know what his statistics were in this game?

1528
01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,680
Speaker 3: He hilicolled the wall like twice. I think, either either

1529
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 3: once or twice.

1530
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 4: Uh, you have overestimated it. He caught it zero times.

1531
01:24:08,040 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 2: Oh, he must have thrown it to him once then

1532
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,840
Speaker 2: and he didn't And there was some kind of way

1533
01:24:12,840 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 2: that it didn't didn't get get caught because I definitely

1534
01:24:16,439 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 2: remember seeing Dorian Singer on the television screen. Yeah, and

1535
01:24:20,280 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 2: then and then the hyphenated dB kid, uh, Christian Christian Wallace. Yep,

1536
01:24:28,680 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 2: he had he had he had four tackles.

1537
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:30,760
Speaker 3: Yep.

1538
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 4: But no, they didn't slow anybody down. They had a

1539
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,639
Speaker 4: guy in a second ever start catch three hundred yards

1540
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:36,520
Speaker 4: or the passes.

1541
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 3: And then there was one more, the defensive tackle.

1542
01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:42,600
Speaker 4: Mm hmm. His name is Keon Bars and after the

1543
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:47,400
Speaker 4: game he tweeted best record I've ever had, most wins

1544
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 4: I've ever had in a season, to which Arizona fans responded,

1545
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 4: you don't play.

1546
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:58,799
Speaker 3: Oh h damn.

1547
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:06,240
Speaker 4: At blood. All's fair in love and war, question.

1548
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 2: Work he plays. He had one tackle? Okay, yeah, he

1549
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 2: had one tackle. He was in there.

1550
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:21,200
Speaker 4: Is that a little bit of a moral victory for

1551
01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 4: Arizona that they're the people that left the team. None

1552
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,160
Speaker 4: of them had a good game.

1553
01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:30,200
Speaker 3: Yes, one hundred percent, one hundred percent.

1554
01:25:30,560 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 2: And can I and I know that we're not supposed

1555
01:25:33,280 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 2: to treat, you know, college players like pro players, but

1556
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:40,759
Speaker 2: can we talk about justin flow for a quick second.

1557
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:45,920
Speaker 2: He had two tackles in his game, one solo, but

1558
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 2: he did have a sack tackle for loss. Bad penalty

1559
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 2: at the end on a third down because USC got

1560
01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:56,080
Speaker 2: new life twice on a pass on pass interference calls

1561
01:25:56,240 --> 01:25:58,879
Speaker 2: oh and on the late.

1562
01:25:58,760 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 3: Hit, and.

1563
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 4: That was the full Justin Flow experience. Yeah, he belongs

1564
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 4: somewhere on first and second down that gives the ball

1565
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:23,240
Speaker 4: to two hundred and thirty pound running backs because he's

1566
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:28,760
Speaker 4: one of the only people on earth that can stop them.

1567
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,920
Speaker 4: Anything outside of that, he has not shown that he's dependable,

1568
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 4: not in pass rush, which, by the way, Arizona was

1569
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:40,160
Speaker 4: more successful in the rushing Caleb Williams than anybody.

1570
01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:43,679
Speaker 2: Yes, that was I'm glad you brought that up, because

1571
01:26:43,680 --> 01:26:45,920
Speaker 2: that was the thing that was probably stuck out the

1572
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 2: most was that they couldn't block them.

1573
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:55,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, Russell Davis's kid, Duce Davis. Yep, he's good. He's

1574
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 4: gonna be real good. He's very, very good at what

1575
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:01,160
Speaker 4: he does. But no, Justin Flow, Justin Flow might be

1576
01:27:01,200 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 4: one of the best players in the country when it

1577
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 4: comes to like run defense on first, second down. I

1578
01:27:06,160 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 4: don't know if you trust him in any other situation.

1579
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:14,439
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I don't think you can at at all,

1580
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 2: not even a little bit.

1581
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:21,559
Speaker 3: All right on to this week.

1582
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 2: So the first game that we have up is the

1583
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 2: first game that we have up is Stanford at Colorado.

1584
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 2: And where do we stand on that game. Let me

1585
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:39,680
Speaker 2: pull up the over under and the lines.

1586
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 4: And Colorado's what like an eleven and a half point

1587
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,519
Speaker 4: favorite at home, and I think the over under is

1588
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:49,680
Speaker 4: fifty nine. If I'm remembering correctly, I can get my

1589
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 4: The line might have closed a little bit, but I

1590
01:27:54,280 --> 01:27:57,920
Speaker 4: think it was eleven and a half and fifty nine.

1591
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:04,599
Speaker 3: Okay, So who do you have with that? With that spread? Uh?

1592
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:09,519
Speaker 4: I like Colorado because it it's gonna be at a

1593
01:28:09,640 --> 01:28:15,919
Speaker 4: sold out fulsome right, it's gonna be at seven pm.

1594
01:28:16,120 --> 01:28:18,639
Speaker 4: It's crazy to me that Stanford, as bad as they are,

1595
01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 4: is getting a seven pm ESPN kickoff.

1596
01:28:22,160 --> 01:28:26,320
Speaker 2: Because that's the only time to get Dion on television, dude,

1597
01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:30,679
Speaker 2: because the the only other options, right, because ABC took

1598
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:36,240
Speaker 2: Oregon Washington, NBC had USC Notre Dame, Fox took u

1599
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 2: c l A Oregon State, So the only other option

1600
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:45,880
Speaker 2: was either Arizona Washington State, which is probably a better game,

1601
01:28:47,160 --> 01:28:49,880
Speaker 2: or col Utah.

1602
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:53,720
Speaker 3: Or Stanford Colorado.

1603
01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,080
Speaker 2: Well well, actually, but that game is on Friday, too,

1604
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 2: so that's it's different.

1605
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:04,719
Speaker 4: Hey. By the way, we're tied. We were officially tied

1606
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 4: against the spread for the season. What eighteen and ten,

1607
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:11,120
Speaker 4: I'm eighteen and ten. You're eighteen and ten. You do

1608
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:16,640
Speaker 4: have a one pick lead on me. You're fifteen and

1609
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 4: nine in the over unders, okay, and I'm I'm I

1610
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:26,160
Speaker 4: think fourteen and ten, so i gotta tell yeah, we're close,

1611
01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 4: so running neck and neck, all right.

1612
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:31,640
Speaker 2: So I'm going to take Colorado minus eleven and a

1613
01:29:31,720 --> 01:29:36,320
Speaker 2: half and I'm going to take the Now, Stanford is

1614
01:29:36,360 --> 01:29:38,599
Speaker 2: going to slow the game down and all that stuff.

1615
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 2: Oregon only score forty two points. They only ran three

1616
01:29:41,640 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 2: plays in the first quarter. Mm hmm, and that could

1617
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 2: happen to Well, Colorado's actually doing a decent job stopping

1618
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 2: to run right now, and Stanford can't pass the ball.

1619
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,200
Speaker 4: So but they also do not turn the ball over,

1620
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 4: so they'll bleed the clock they've done in weeks and

1621
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 4: weeks in a row.

1622
01:29:58,640 --> 01:30:02,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're still gonna get down by fourteen points

1623
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:05,639
Speaker 2: and give me Colorado. I'm just concerned about this over

1624
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 2: under a fifty nine, but I under Yeah, I'm.

1625
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:11,479
Speaker 3: Gonna take the under on this too. I could see

1626
01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:15,000
Speaker 3: like a forty two twenty six game.

1627
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:21,280
Speaker 4: Well, that's hitting me over pretty hard. Oh damn. Oh.

1628
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 3: Then then in that case, yeah, give me give me

1629
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 3: the over because I can't count today because that's seventy five.

1630
01:30:28,720 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 2: But anyways, all right, next game up on Saturday cal Utah.

1631
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:38,200
Speaker 2: Utah's favored by thirteen and a half points over under

1632
01:30:38,280 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 2: a meager forty five and a half m It's in

1633
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:49,160
Speaker 2: Salt Lake City at rice Eco Stadium. I am going

1634
01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:54,800
Speaker 2: to smash smash the.

1635
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,040
Speaker 3: Under in this game forty.

1636
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:05,280
Speaker 4: Five bro okay, because you have somebody making their second start,

1637
01:31:05,320 --> 01:31:08,599
Speaker 4: Everett quarterback against the Utah defense. I like that logic.

1638
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 4: I'll go with you on the under. Yeah, are you

1639
01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:14,599
Speaker 4: taking cal to cover because that seems to.

1640
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:16,839
Speaker 3: Be yes, I'm taking call to cover.

1641
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:21,000
Speaker 4: All right. And the assumption is is because Cam Rising's

1642
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,559
Speaker 4: probably not gonna play, And for the first time ever,

1643
01:31:23,640 --> 01:31:29,080
Speaker 4: we know he probably shouldn't play. We know that now

1644
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 4: because Kyle Whittingham every single week has been like, well,

1645
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:34,160
Speaker 4: we don't know, we don't know, we don't know, took

1646
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 4: him to pack twelve media Day, trots him out before

1647
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:40,280
Speaker 4: every game to do some warm ups. Cam Rising talked

1648
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 4: candidly about his injury. There's no reason for him to

1649
01:31:46,160 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 4: even be thinking about play.

1650
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 3: He could actually get a.

1651
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 2: If I were if I were Cam Rising, depending on

1652
01:31:56,960 --> 01:32:01,000
Speaker 2: where I was going to be drafted, I would probably

1653
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:06,599
Speaker 2: consider filing a hardship waiver, which I bet. I bet

1654
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:08,840
Speaker 2: he's filed the hardship way if I if I had

1655
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 2: to bet, I would bet he's filed the hardship waiver

1656
01:32:13,120 --> 01:32:17,360
Speaker 2: and or is going to depending on the time that

1657
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:20,960
Speaker 2: it's due. And we may see him back next year.

1658
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:24,000
Speaker 4: I mean he'll have a truck.

1659
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:30,120
Speaker 3: He probably already could have could afford a truck row.

1660
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,719
Speaker 4: Yeah. I like Cam Rising and I want the best

1661
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:38,080
Speaker 4: for him. Uh, the knee injury that he is describing

1662
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:40,680
Speaker 4: is not something that you should be coming back from

1663
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:41,479
Speaker 4: nine months in.

1664
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, that's a that's a that's

1665
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:45,800
Speaker 2: a year, daddy right there.

1666
01:32:46,640 --> 01:32:49,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a year. It's a it's a year

1667
01:32:49,160 --> 01:32:52,880
Speaker 4: injury plus maybe longer if you're considering that what you're

1668
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:55,919
Speaker 4: coming back to is to play Utah's brand of football.

1669
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:02,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I would not be surprised if if because

1670
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,800
Speaker 3: they say he's been clear to practice, but being clear,

1671
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 3: I don't think that he's out there practicing with the team.

1672
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:09,479
Speaker 3: I think he's out there just like working out on

1673
01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:13,720
Speaker 3: the side, probably throwing balls, doing some handoffs.

1674
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:17,360
Speaker 4: Right, because we're talking about getting him back and being like,

1675
01:33:17,400 --> 01:33:22,360
Speaker 4: all right, go out there and play or again, yeah,

1676
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 4: Arizona State, whose defense is not friendly at all, like that,

1677
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,360
Speaker 4: that's not going to be easy even though it's at home.

1678
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 4: Then you got let's go to Seattle in the cold.

1679
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:34,839
Speaker 3: Yep, and you got to make plays against USC.

1680
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:39,599
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I don't know, man, I think maybe call it.

1681
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:44,760
Speaker 4: I don't know. You know, obviously, all that's gonna be

1682
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 4: up to Cam Rising whatever. But when when he came

1683
01:33:47,240 --> 01:33:48,960
Speaker 4: out and talked about the kind of injury that he had,

1684
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:51,200
Speaker 4: it was like, oh, why did why have we been

1685
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:53,360
Speaker 4: playing this game at all? It never should have had

1686
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 4: they been open about what the injury was. And I

1687
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:58,040
Speaker 4: feel like he was open about what the injury was

1688
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:03,240
Speaker 4: out of frustration because the more that Kyle Whittingham is

1689
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 4: hush hush and it's not really his place to be

1690
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 4: talking about what kind of injury it is. Yeah, but

1691
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 4: he's he's out here trying to play mind games and

1692
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:13,720
Speaker 4: preparation games. When and but then people are you know,

1693
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 4: it comes back as negativity and pressure on Cam Rising,

1694
01:34:17,640 --> 01:34:20,320
Speaker 4: who is spending all day every day trying to get healthy.

1695
01:34:20,400 --> 01:34:22,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, and people are like, why aren't you coming back?

1696
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:23,720
Speaker 3: When are you coming.

1697
01:34:23,479 --> 01:34:28,920
Speaker 2: Back, Bro, because of blue madamn knee out. Buddy, all right,

1698
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:31,360
Speaker 2: next game up, twelve thirty.

1699
01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 3: It's the show, last the game we've been waiting on.

1700
01:34:36,120 --> 01:34:40,160
Speaker 2: Game We've been waiting on Oregon, Washington, in Seattle at

1701
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:45,080
Speaker 2: Husky Stadium, Josh Pat and everybody else in name Mama

1702
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:49,400
Speaker 2: will be there. Game Day's gonna be there everything it. No,

1703
01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 2: I can't because they've been plays on Friday and it's

1704
01:34:51,479 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 2: a twelve thirty kick, so I can't get up to

1705
01:34:53,040 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 2: Seattle all time.

1706
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 3: Bro.

1707
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:59,879
Speaker 4: Plus, they don't like you like that out there in Seattle, Washington.

1708
01:35:00,080 --> 01:35:02,400
Speaker 3: No, Bro, God, listen, listen.

1709
01:35:02,479 --> 01:35:05,559
Speaker 2: Listen them Seattle people, man, they know they know who

1710
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:05,960
Speaker 2: I am.

1711
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 3: They you know.

1712
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 4: Oh I'm not. I'm not talking about you playing for

1713
01:35:09,040 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 4: organ I'm talking about you not knowing anything about Nirvana.

1714
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 3: I know everything about it. Haven't you seen my Nirvana shirt?

1715
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:17,439
Speaker 4: Bro? Come on, Yes, I have.

1716
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 3: Tour shirt.

1717
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:21,479
Speaker 4: Come on, bro, Yeah, that's like me wearing an n

1718
01:35:21,640 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 4: w A shirt.

1719
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 3: No it's not, dude. I got an AC DC shirt.

1720
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 2: I got a Rolling Stones, got all the all the

1721
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:31,120
Speaker 2: great millions.

1722
01:35:31,160 --> 01:35:34,040
Speaker 4: You know what I'm wrong, You're right. Let's just tell

1723
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,360
Speaker 4: the people. Let's look right into the camera, eyes on,

1724
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:37,680
Speaker 4: eyes on the camera. I want to see your eyes

1725
01:35:37,680 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 4: on the camera. Tell them your two favorite Nirvana songs.

1726
01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:47,160
Speaker 3: Listen, listen. Yet you're not gonna pin me into now.

1727
01:35:47,200 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 4: There's too many to choose, too many.

1728
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:50,759
Speaker 3: To choose from.

1729
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 2: It's like the scriptures, man, you you can't pick a

1730
01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:55,000
Speaker 2: fa Yes.

1731
01:35:55,240 --> 01:35:57,760
Speaker 4: But yeah, like Trump said, there's two Corinthians.

1732
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:03,679
Speaker 2: Dude, there's too there's Yeah, it's too it's it's too much,

1733
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:04,519
Speaker 2: it's too much.

1734
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 3: Like I don't I don't want to like alienate people

1735
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:14,240
Speaker 3: about this. Yeah. Yeah.

1736
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 4: And it's not like they've heard all your comments on

1737
01:36:16,080 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 4: Pearl Jam either, another Seattle band.

1738
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,799
Speaker 3: Dude, Pearl Pearl pro DRAMs amazing.

1739
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:26,840
Speaker 4: Bro, I'm gonna put this clip up next to everything

1740
01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:27,920
Speaker 4: else you've ever said about.

1741
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,280
Speaker 3: What do you What are you talking about? Bro?

1742
01:36:30,920 --> 01:36:33,599
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean if you must know, you can

1743
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:36,720
Speaker 2: play silver, you can play dumb, you can play you know,

1744
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 2: come come as you are, any of those things.

1745
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 3: Bro. Yeah.

1746
01:36:40,840 --> 01:36:44,120
Speaker 4: Man, I also have Google dot com or did you

1747
01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:46,000
Speaker 4: use or did you use Being this time?

1748
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:49,799
Speaker 3: Who has Being on their computer?

1749
01:36:50,600 --> 01:36:54,240
Speaker 4: I don't know. Who doesn't know anything about Nirvana? Wow?

1750
01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 3: I know everything about it? Okay, all right, all right,

1751
01:37:00,800 --> 01:37:02,840
Speaker 3: you made me lose track of what we were doing,

1752
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 3: all right?

1753
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:06,640
Speaker 4: Or Oregon talking about how the people of Seattle love

1754
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 4: George Reister.

1755
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:11,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, they they accept me for who I am. Some

1756
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:13,519
Speaker 2: of them are a little upset that on my videos

1757
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:16,639
Speaker 2: that I use a Washington hus that Washington football team

1758
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:18,559
Speaker 2: logo instead of the Huskies logo.

1759
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:20,400
Speaker 3: But it is what it is.

1760
01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 4: Purple is not your color.

1761
01:37:25,160 --> 01:37:29,720
Speaker 3: Washington minus three over under sixty seven. I'll let you go.

1762
01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:39,559
Speaker 4: First, over over you sure? Yes, no, actually no, not

1763
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:43,040
Speaker 4: sure about any of them. No, I'm gonna take the

1764
01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:45,080
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the I'm gonna take the over. I

1765
01:37:45,080 --> 01:37:48,880
Speaker 4: think it'll be I think both teams get a three

1766
01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:52,840
Speaker 4: in front. Now, if it's like thirty one thirty, I'm

1767
01:37:52,840 --> 01:37:55,800
Speaker 4: in trouble, right, But yes, I think both teams are

1768
01:37:55,880 --> 01:37:56,439
Speaker 4: hitting thirty.

1769
01:37:57,640 --> 01:38:04,840
Speaker 2: Give me the Ducks, give me the under. This game

1770
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:08,360
Speaker 2: is going to be like thirty eight. Actually, what's what's that?

1771
01:38:08,479 --> 01:38:12,760
Speaker 2: Twenty eight, thirty one, thirty four, thirty seven, So give

1772
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:15,560
Speaker 2: me thirty seven.

1773
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:23,800
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty four.

1774
01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:29,760
Speaker 4: Ooh, okay. Neither team really turns the ball over that much,

1775
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 4: so that's probably gonna be a key to this game. Right.

1776
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:37,800
Speaker 4: Oregon defensively has been pretty great. They have had a

1777
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:42,759
Speaker 4: ton of challenges, been pretty great, And it really depends

1778
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 4: on what you think of Colorado orre They a challenge

1779
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:47,840
Speaker 4: are they not games in Seattle? But it's negated a

1780
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 4: little bit by the fact that it's a rivalry game

1781
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:51,120
Speaker 4: and it's in the middle of the day.

1782
01:38:52,080 --> 01:38:53,440
Speaker 3: Weather's going to be good.

1783
01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, Roma better than they and the other wide receiver

1784
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:02,200
Speaker 2: they said they're playing, which.

1785
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:06,840
Speaker 4: Still Roman Dunes. They got hurt on a feeling an

1786
01:39:06,840 --> 01:39:13,960
Speaker 4: on side kick. Give me, give me Oregon, but I

1787
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:17,800
Speaker 4: think this game might push I wish it was a

1788
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,000
Speaker 4: half a point spread instead of being just three flat.

1789
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:22,919
Speaker 3: Okay, okay. I can see a world where.

1790
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:26,000
Speaker 4: That thirty seven, thirty eight, thirty five, thirty eight, thirty

1791
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:27,639
Speaker 4: five final answer, Oregon wins.

1792
01:39:27,880 --> 01:39:30,240
Speaker 2: I can see a world where that happens. But that

1793
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:31,880
Speaker 2: ain't a world that I want to be in. I

1794
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 2: want to beat the ass down Arizona at Washington State

1795
01:39:37,080 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 2: Washington State minus eight, Bro minus eight, and I am

1796
01:39:44,439 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 2: going to.

1797
01:39:46,840 --> 01:39:48,759
Speaker 3: This is this is one of those hedgers.

1798
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 2: Right if if Noah Fafita starts this game and you

1799
01:39:54,240 --> 01:39:57,759
Speaker 2: can hedge, okay, you're allowed to If Noah Fafeda starts

1800
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:02,240
Speaker 2: this game, give me Arizona plus eight. If Jadeen Delora

1801
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:05,080
Speaker 2: stars this game, give me Washington State minus eight.

1802
01:40:07,160 --> 01:40:09,040
Speaker 4: How bad do you think the crowd's gonna be on

1803
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:10,360
Speaker 4: Jayden's ass? Oh?

1804
01:40:10,600 --> 01:40:11,479
Speaker 3: God dud dude.

1805
01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 2: They are going to be saying vile things that that like, like,

1806
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:17,880
Speaker 2: they're gonna be talking about the things that we don't

1807
01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:19,520
Speaker 2: talk about on this podcast.

1808
01:40:19,560 --> 01:40:26,400
Speaker 4: About Jayden DeLaura, everything in me thinks that if he

1809
01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:28,679
Speaker 4: plays every first of all, everything in me thinks he's

1810
01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:33,040
Speaker 4: gonna play. Yeah, Cause if I'm if if Jed Fish

1811
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:35,559
Speaker 4: goes well, if he's one hundred percent he's playing, and

1812
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:37,240
Speaker 4: I'm Jadane DeLaura and I have a chance to go

1813
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:39,120
Speaker 4: back to Pullman and play in front of those people

1814
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:44,800
Speaker 4: and try to win. I'm lying. I'm lying. When they

1815
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:46,760
Speaker 4: ask about my ankle, I'll be like, what are you

1816
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:51,120
Speaker 4: talking about? I didn't get hurt, And they're like, they'll

1817
01:40:51,160 --> 01:40:53,120
Speaker 4: be like, but you didn't play last week, and I'm like, yes,

1818
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:58,000
Speaker 4: I did. Like I'm just lying. I'm gonna be delusional

1819
01:40:58,120 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 4: to get on that field because I know he really

1820
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 4: wants play. Yeah, but I do worry about his tendency

1821
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:09,440
Speaker 4: to to not be able to handle the big moments,

1822
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 4: not talent, like he just kind of melts in those.

1823
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:17,400
Speaker 4: And this is a big moment, this is yea, this

1824
01:41:17,479 --> 01:41:17,960
Speaker 4: is yeah.

1825
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 3: Because trying to keep.

1826
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 4: Arizona that was bad, bad, Yeah, horribly yep.

1827
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:29,000
Speaker 3: And that's what we're expecting.

1828
01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:32,360
Speaker 2: Hopefully he doesn't if he does play, because you know

1829
01:41:32,479 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 2: you you want the best for people.

1830
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:37,200
Speaker 3: But uh, over, what about the other side of it?

1831
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 4: What about the other side of it? Because Arizona plays

1832
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:43,479
Speaker 4: that like ben but don't break defense. How is Washington

1833
01:41:43,520 --> 01:41:48,519
Speaker 4: State going to handle that? Yeah? Because uh because they

1834
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:49,840
Speaker 4: didn't handle it well last week.

1835
01:41:50,240 --> 01:41:54,000
Speaker 2: No, no, they did not, except for UCLA is much

1836
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:54,840
Speaker 2: more aggressive.

1837
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:57,439
Speaker 3: They get to the quarterback, all of those things. So

1838
01:41:58,080 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 3: give me.

1839
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 2: So the over unders fifty nine, Okay, give me, let

1840
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:10,439
Speaker 2: me make sure sense, yep, fifty nine, give me the over.

1841
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:12,360
Speaker 2: I think that we're gonna have some points scored.

1842
01:42:12,200 --> 01:42:12,639
Speaker 3: In this game.

1843
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 4: I'll go with you, and I'm taking Arizona regardless of

1844
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:19,559
Speaker 4: who plays. Ooh nasty like it. They lost the last

1845
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 4: two weeks by seven. I don't see them losing by

1846
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 4: more than seven. But I don't think they're gonna win all.

1847
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 3: Right, USC at Notre Dame in South Bend.

1848
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:31,839
Speaker 2: Boy, oh boy, let me see if the weather report

1849
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:33,519
Speaker 2: has changed, because right now.

1850
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:38,559
Speaker 4: No, dude, nasty, the fifty five and raining with fifteen

1851
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:40,160
Speaker 4: mile an hour wins as of yesterday.

1852
01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's why I said I was gonna check

1853
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 2: it just again, just see if it changed. So right now,

1854
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:52,360
Speaker 2: Notre Dame minus three over under sixty and a half.

1855
01:42:52,720 --> 01:42:55,200
Speaker 2: If Notre Dame still had a grass field, bro, this

1856
01:42:55,439 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 2: over under would be like forty. So where do you

1857
01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 2: stand on this game?

1858
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:09,519
Speaker 4: I don't see the things in Notre Dame that maybe

1859
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:11,800
Speaker 4: you or other people see, Like, I don't get it.

1860
01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:16,080
Speaker 4: I think they have a talented quarterback, but I think

1861
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 4: that he has like eleven career losses against top twenty

1862
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:22,200
Speaker 4: five teams, which is crazy because some people don't even

1863
01:43:22,240 --> 01:43:28,439
Speaker 4: play eleven games against against teams like that. I don't

1864
01:43:28,479 --> 01:43:31,240
Speaker 4: know how. I don't know if this USC team is

1865
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:34,280
Speaker 4: built for weather like this or for traveling east. So

1866
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 4: we're going to learn some things about them. Logically, logically,

1867
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:40,120
Speaker 4: you'd be like, oh, this is gonna be the Marshawn

1868
01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:46,679
Speaker 4: Lloyd game, right, Yeah, I don't. I don't think Lincoln

1869
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 4: Riley cares that that's the right thing to do. I

1870
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:55,720
Speaker 4: think he just wants to be himself. But I got

1871
01:43:55,800 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 4: a rock with the BAC twelve on this one.

1872
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:05,960
Speaker 3: So from the let's go with the weather the weather,

1873
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:09,480
Speaker 3: because I tried to go I'll take USC.

1874
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 4: Plus three thirty one twenty four is an under, so

1875
01:44:14,120 --> 01:44:15,559
Speaker 4: I'll go with USC and the under.

1876
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:21,080
Speaker 3: Okay, So on Saturday, right, it is supposed to.

1877
01:44:23,880 --> 01:44:31,160
Speaker 2: The it should be around fifty two degrees at kickoff, yep,

1878
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:36,760
Speaker 2: between nine and twenty seven mile an hour win gus.

1879
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 3: It should be. The rain.

1880
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:51,280
Speaker 2: Should be uh oh, it could be it could stop

1881
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 2: raining before the game starts, or because we know how

1882
01:44:56,320 --> 01:44:57,759
Speaker 2: weather goes, or it could.

1883
01:44:57,600 --> 01:44:58,840
Speaker 3: Be raining the entire game.

1884
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:03,559
Speaker 2: So on one app it says that it's gonna stop

1885
01:45:03,680 --> 01:45:06,280
Speaker 2: raining before the game starts, even though that there's a

1886
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:09,240
Speaker 2: seventy percent chance of rain, and then on Friday there

1887
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:11,080
Speaker 2: is too, but there's no rain on Sunday.

1888
01:45:11,800 --> 01:45:12,960
Speaker 3: So depending on how.

1889
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:16,719
Speaker 2: Fast it blows blows by or if it slows down,

1890
01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:19,559
Speaker 2: you could get a torrential downpour all game.

1891
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 3: But it's gonna be cold though I tell you that much.

1892
01:45:22,160 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 5: Mm hmm.

1893
01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:25,880
Speaker 2: And it's dark, so the sun's not gonna be out.

1894
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:34,680
Speaker 2: It's gonna be six thirty. Give me Notre Dame in

1895
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:39,479
Speaker 2: this game. I don't I don't know. How is USC

1896
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:42,639
Speaker 2: supposed to stop Notre Dame from rushing the ball?

1897
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:45,840
Speaker 4: I don't know, but it feels like Notre Dames stopping

1898
01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:47,679
Speaker 4: themselves from rushing the ball as much as they should.

1899
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:51,160
Speaker 4: So Estimate is averaging almost seven yards of carry. They

1900
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:53,599
Speaker 4: need to feed him the rock. Whoever has more carries

1901
01:45:53,680 --> 01:45:55,519
Speaker 4: Estimate or Lloyd. I think that's probably gonna be a

1902
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 4: team that takes this.

1903
01:45:56,600 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 3: YEP over under sixty and a half. I'm actually gonna

1904
01:45:59,800 --> 01:46:04,439
Speaker 3: take the I'm gonna take the under in this game. Okay, Yeah,

1905
01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:06,120
Speaker 3: I think where we're gonna end up with like a

1906
01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:08,559
Speaker 3: thirty one to twenty four game.

1907
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 4: That's I'm in the same place, but we have different winners.

1908
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:16,759
Speaker 2: YEP UCLA Oregon State Final game of the day Oregon

1909
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:19,559
Speaker 2: State minus three and a half over under fifty four.

1910
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 2: This game is so important in Salad Bowl Stadium, in

1911
01:46:24,479 --> 01:46:25,240
Speaker 2: Research Stadium.

1912
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 3: Oh, this is this is it for the loser, the

1913
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 3: losers out of the Pac twelve race out, Benito Dunzo.

1914
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 4: It's over, yeah, and the winner if it happens to

1915
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:44,680
Speaker 4: be UCLA has a path to the Pac twelve Championship.

1916
01:46:45,040 --> 01:46:51,919
Speaker 2: Yes, and that would be totally surprising considering that everybody

1917
01:46:52,080 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 2: was pointing to USC, Washington Utah with a side of Oregon.

1918
01:46:58,680 --> 01:46:59,599
Speaker 3: But those three.

1919
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:05,160
Speaker 2: Teams may and now us the UCLA my back door

1920
01:47:05,240 --> 01:47:05,800
Speaker 2: in that joint.

1921
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:09,280
Speaker 4: Bro they could go in eleven and one. UCLA could

1922
01:47:09,320 --> 01:47:12,560
Speaker 4: go in eleven and one win the Pac twelve Championship,

1923
01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:14,120
Speaker 4: and I could see them getting left out of the

1924
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:15,160
Speaker 4: College Football.

1925
01:47:14,840 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 3: Playoffs for sure, for sure.

1926
01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:20,479
Speaker 4: But if Oregon State runs the table from here on out,

1927
01:47:20,560 --> 01:47:22,920
Speaker 4: they're going to the College Football Playoff. Yes, And that

1928
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:25,080
Speaker 4: might be insane for Oregon State fans to hear, but

1929
01:47:25,160 --> 01:47:28,080
Speaker 4: it's true, yep. Because if you run the table from

1930
01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:31,240
Speaker 4: this point on, it means that you beat UH.

1931
01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:34,559
Speaker 3: Or you would have the potential.

1932
01:47:37,200 --> 01:47:40,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that you maybe beat USC twice yep,

1933
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 4: like or or you'd have to beat either Oregon Washington,

1934
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:51,519
Speaker 4: USC or Oregon State twice yep or not Oregon State UCLA.

1935
01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1936
01:47:53,160 --> 01:47:56,800
Speaker 4: So yes, So like the Natty is on the line

1937
01:47:56,840 --> 01:48:01,240
Speaker 4: for the Beaves, that's a the national A trip to

1938
01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:03,719
Speaker 4: the National Championship is on the line this weekend.

1939
01:48:04,080 --> 01:48:04,240
Speaker 3: Yep.

1940
01:48:04,439 --> 01:48:06,920
Speaker 4: It'll be on the line every week for both teams. Yes,

1941
01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:07,720
Speaker 4: but it's there.

1942
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:11,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, because the the loser of Oregon Washington if they

1943
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:15,479
Speaker 2: win out, they're back in the PAC twelve Championship and

1944
01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:16,559
Speaker 2: they're still in.

1945
01:48:16,640 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 3: The driver there they still.

1946
01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:21,760
Speaker 4: And it would because it would probably include a get

1947
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:22,160
Speaker 4: back game.

1948
01:48:23,400 --> 01:48:25,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, So the loser of the game is still

1949
01:48:25,560 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 3: in control of their own destiny.

1950
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:30,320
Speaker 4: But the loser of this game is fighting for the

1951
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:30,880
Speaker 4: Sun Bowl.

1952
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 3: Yep, exactly. All right, who do you pick? Oh?

1953
01:48:35,439 --> 01:48:40,720
Speaker 2: Okay, I got my feel of picking against U c

1954
01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 2: l A last week. Okay, but this game's in Research Stadium.

1955
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:52,800
Speaker 2: I'm going dude, what let me see what time this

1956
01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 2: game starts.

1957
01:48:53,439 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 3: It starts at five. It's not gonna be foggy yet,

1958
01:48:57,280 --> 01:49:00,639
Speaker 3: or it could be foggy. Give me the beaves, man,

1959
01:49:01,000 --> 01:49:01,679
Speaker 3: give me the beabs.

1960
01:49:03,120 --> 01:49:06,400
Speaker 4: I'm with you. I think seven to ten point Oregon

1961
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:08,720
Speaker 4: State win and I'm gonna take the over.

1962
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:13,639
Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the take the over as well. Yeah.

1963
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:16,439
Speaker 2: Oh so, uh now we got to pick our players

1964
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:18,960
Speaker 2: for the week because your ass has tied this thing

1965
01:49:19,120 --> 01:49:19,920
Speaker 2: up four to four?

1966
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:22,120
Speaker 3: Who did I pick? Last week?

1967
01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:25,320
Speaker 4: You picked cam Ward and he had the worst game

1968
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:30,160
Speaker 4: of his life. I could have not picked in one.

1969
01:49:31,080 --> 01:49:31,800
Speaker 3: And who did you have?

1970
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:35,839
Speaker 4: I I had Shador.

1971
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 3: Oh well, well there you go, buddy.

1972
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:45,920
Speaker 4: So what flex my non watch hand at the okay

1973
01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:49,760
Speaker 4: at the camera. Well, you're supposed to throw a water

1974
01:49:49,840 --> 01:49:51,200
Speaker 4: bottle at me. That's how this works.

1975
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 3: I am going to take how do I get two

1976
01:49:57,960 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 3: points here? I am going to take Bucky irvy.

1977
01:50:11,439 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, that's against Washington. That's brave of you.

1978
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:20,960
Speaker 3: That's what that's what they call me, brave George.

1979
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:28,120
Speaker 4: Okay, well then let's have some fun, shall we. I

1980
01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:33,519
Speaker 4: will stay in that same game with you, and I

1981
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:35,320
Speaker 4: will take Roma doon Day.

1982
01:50:37,880 --> 01:50:41,559
Speaker 3: What a loser. You're gonna lose them. But he's gonna

1983
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:43,639
Speaker 3: play like ten snaps. Watch.

1984
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:46,439
Speaker 4: Oh so now he's hurt? Hurt? All right?

1985
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:50,080
Speaker 3: No, no, I actually think that.

1986
01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:53,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, you're right, you're right. I'll give you ten snaps,

1987
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:57,040
Speaker 4: nine catches, one hundred and eighty five yards, eight touchdowns.

1988
01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:01,080
Speaker 3: Oh my god. All right, you guys.

1989
01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:04,000
Speaker 2: I'm George Reister, He's Ralph Amerzon. This is the PAC

1990
01:51:04,080 --> 01:51:05,519
Speaker 2: twelve Apostles, peace out,